the film industry's colorism issue with non-black people of color.

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@mirandabee2323
@mirandabee2323 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for calling out colorism defenders. "Oh it's because they worked out in the sun because they were poor!" Oh, so colorism defenders are saying colorism is okay if it's based in classism. Glad we're on the same page.
@espeon871
@espeon871 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, as a long term Harri viewer whos asian that felt very very validating to have someone legit call people out for their prejudices because some people like to act like as if its fine that its permeated by classism if its not racism, theyre both bad, not as bad depending on context but intersects and overlap and is bad.
@despicablepenguin
@despicablepenguin Жыл бұрын
​​@@espeon871 Wow! Intersectionality is a thing, but I'm guessing ppl didn't learn that from how fellow classmates gawked that we even had an ethnic studies class in our high school.
@tahmkench118
@tahmkench118 Жыл бұрын
I love how this re tard puts 2 anime characters on the thumbnail and acts like it's an example of Hollywood and anime fans having a problem with black people when A.) Pedowood never created them B.) They are both popular and beloved characters C.) They were never black in the first place A tan doesn' mean you are your race black, it that were the case I'd have the Nword pass and I'd be asking for reparations by now 💀💀💀
@NiaG34
@NiaG34 Жыл бұрын
It’s still colorism, it’s just different from colorism in the black community.
@lreneewell9154
@lreneewell9154 10 ай бұрын
Nah because when I addressed the racism behind the way people are treating Rachel Zegler right now and also talked about how Snow White low-key does perpetuate the harmful beauty standard that lighter/whiter skin is the most beautiful color, someone defended it saying that that was the beauty standard because it meant they didn't have to work in the sun. Like....do you not see what you write before you post it? And why does that make it better?
@sanbanapoy
@sanbanapoy Жыл бұрын
Your bit about how much worse colorism is in Asia- As a filipino speaking, the skin bleaching products and hair straightening conditioners (directly meant to target darker skinned filipinos since we're also associated with having more wavy hair) run rampant in beauty standards, my family literally will not stop reccomending me these skin whitening creams no matter how many times I ask them to stop. The colorism here also only targets women since fair skin is more associated with being pure and feminine which is a lot of horse crap. Look it up, you'll find so much of the acting scene (specifically romcoms) starring light skinned female leads and dark skinned male leads. Shit is so sad.
@ThatGreenMach1ne
@ThatGreenMach1ne Жыл бұрын
Mimiii you should make a video on that romcom you were watching with your family.
@sanbanapoy
@sanbanapoy Жыл бұрын
@@ThatGreenMach1ne NAH CAUSE THE COLORISM SO REAL THERE
@tomoriinterlude
@tomoriinterlude Жыл бұрын
In 4th grade I was so desperate to be pale due to the bullying and now I kinda regret it bc I lost half of my melanin due to the whitening soaps
@despicablepenguin
@despicablepenguin Жыл бұрын
I'm a fairly light skin Asian so I may not have a say in this, but when Harriyanna said that, my first automatic thought was "yeah that makes sense." Idk why but ig I've normalized the extremity and how behind Asia is (like extreme sexism), that I think of it as a different world. Something separate from the west where it's hard for them to catch up bc they have different values or whatever and I almost Harriyanna wanted. But your comment really opened my eyes to how harmful the skin bleaching is and how harmful my thought process could be. I've only discovered colorism 2 years ago and I won't say I'm not colorist, I definitely have colorist prejudices which I'm trying to work through just growing up in America. Anyway, just putting my two cents. Thanks for reading till the end if you've gotten this far.
@pancakebears
@pancakebears Жыл бұрын
I’m filipino too & i 100% agree 😭for context, i’m tan for east asian standards but lighter skinned for western and filipino standards. for my whole life, my family members would recommend that stupid orange soap for lightening, eskinol whitening products, & a bunch of other colorist crap -_- Some of my family members would even compare me to white girls by saying that my nose needs to be taller and narrower. Even their compliments were backhanded and praised whiteness at the expense of our own :( It sucks
@squidboitoys
@squidboitoys Жыл бұрын
Disney should NOT be making remakes to movies younger then 20 years old.
@mageofmagic870
@mageofmagic870 Жыл бұрын
I was floored when I head about the Moana remake! Moana is not even 10 years old! Why are they already remaking it?
@zaziaza
@zaziaza Жыл бұрын
@@mageofmagic870 It's so stupid, like they can't just make a sequel or spin off??
@nfsiiihp
@nfsiiihp Жыл бұрын
​@@mageofmagic870 THERE IS A MOANA REMAKE?? LMAO?!
@andrade9172
@andrade9172 Жыл бұрын
*Disney should NOT be making remakes
@squidboitoys
@squidboitoys Жыл бұрын
@@andrade9172 true
@absolutelynotellen
@absolutelynotellen Жыл бұрын
As someone who is an asian with a dark skin, i need more representation. Kinda sad for reboots that whitewashed the character. :/
@espeon871
@espeon871 Жыл бұрын
Same
@legitdetective5594
@legitdetective5594 Жыл бұрын
It feels like all they did was check that Sydney was hawaiian rather than if she looked like nani or not. Like fr theres so many hawaiians who look like nani in your local 7/11 yet bc this actress had previously stared in shows before and had hawaiian blood they checked her off as nani. Also love the Sasara pfp
@kenshix7902
@kenshix7902 Жыл бұрын
​@@legitdetective5594 I see this problem a lot in the live action One Piece cast. But no one is talking about it
@linkmadness6840
@linkmadness6840 Жыл бұрын
You got ariel cry more 😂
@absolutelynotellen
@absolutelynotellen Жыл бұрын
@@keenon8423 i honestly, couldn't careless about race swapping. But, there are some point that i kinda get icky about such issues. :/ regarding your question, i'm not a black person, not gonna talk about it though.
@coelsaw8417
@coelsaw8417 Жыл бұрын
as a pacific islander, i’m SO glad to see every community stand up for us and especially themselves. we’re so small population-wise, so it’s so great to see this issue under the spotlight to preserve the little representation we have ❤❤
@zaziaza
@zaziaza Жыл бұрын
Pasifika On Top
@SlapstickGenius23
@SlapstickGenius23 Жыл бұрын
I used to have Pasifika islander friends in Auckland. Hoo boy, they are quite nice!
@lreneewell9154
@lreneewell9154 10 ай бұрын
Right. And the fact people defended it saying "but she's a native Hawaiian".... even though she was just born and raised in Hawaii, but is actually White and Filipino .... and looks mainly European. Like it's funny how some people like to look at all POCs like we're "so dark", even when we're lightskinned, but in the same breath when it comes to castings like this they always cast the lightest, brightest, almost whitest actresses
@Kawaiipony_Productions
@Kawaiipony_Productions Жыл бұрын
Thank god you're talking about this. I was born and raised in full-blown Mexican family and I have members of my family who are darkskin. And while I'm not darkskin, I am still pretty tan and it's obvious from looking at me that I'm not white. So I always found it off growing up how there are rarely darkskin POC characters in some media. I am glad that things are somewhat getting better, but my god. The fact that there is still a massive amount of colorism in Hollywood and how normalized for nonblack POC communities to be super colorist just really pisses me off.
@fantasyyyworld
@fantasyyyworld Жыл бұрын
Yess I agree with this so much!! I’m also Mexican myself who is brown skin and seeing the way telénovelas would always have light-skin or white latinos play roles all the time and barely any brown or dark-skin latinos hurt a lot growing up. And usually when we did get a brown or dark-skin latino on screen they usually played a maid or a villain.
@whiteasparagus4331
@whiteasparagus4331 Жыл бұрын
I’m a white Colombian so I can’t really say much about this matter since I haven’t experienced colorism, but I remember we where on a vacation to the coastal side of the region and I remember my mom telling me “all the boys are gonna look at you since you are white” and it made fell so weird, like the amount of colorism we have in Latin America is so sad :(
@SlapstickGenius23
@SlapstickGenius23 Жыл бұрын
@@fantasyyyworld I’ve watched promos for Ugly Betty on an Australian channel when I was a kid. Due to how much marketing it has had, it’s likely the most internationally successful adaptation of the world’s most internationally successful Colombian Telenovela, Yo Soy Betty La Fea.
@littlemisstfc
@littlemisstfc Жыл бұрын
Lilo and Nani were among the first characters who are the same complexion as me and my dad, so it really irritates me that even though they have ALL the money and resources and time to find a dark skinned indigenous actress to play Nani, Disney still abides by Hollywood’s gross colorism.
@tangoblast7614
@tangoblast7614 Жыл бұрын
​​@@esmeecampbell7396 I really didn't get that vibe. They didn't say the actor who got cast isn't indigenous, just that casting someone with light skin to portray someone with dark skin skews colorist, even if they are the same ethnicity. It's not a commentary on the actor's ethnic authenticity.
@tangoblast7614
@tangoblast7614 Жыл бұрын
@@esmeecampbell7396 Suggesting that Nani should be portrayed by someone with dark skin because of the belief that Hawaiians ought to look a certain way is racist sentiment, and you come close to saying this when you suggest a portrayal by a lighter skinned actor would be more accurate. Saying that someone isn't dark enough isn't an inherently racist sentiment. It becomes racist depending on how you answer "dark enough with respect to what?", and it's not really comparable to saying someone isn't white enough. If changing race or complexion won't affect characterization then it should be a negligible change. The reason why saying someone isn't white enough to portray a certain character is construed as racist is because it often implies that changing their race changes their characterization when it doesn't. What race or complexion changes do affect is media representation. Because of colorism, people with light skin are more prioritized and get cast more. To correct this the minimum expectation is that characters with dark skin should be portrayed by people with dark skin. It's not really possible to cast someone with light skin as a dark skinned character without taking away from that. Moreover the point that I took away from the original comment wasn't that the actor cast as Nani isn't dark enough to play her, but that Disney had a chance to cast a closer match to the _character_ and they still didn't.
@littlemisstfc
@littlemisstfc Жыл бұрын
@@esmeecampbell7396 at what point did I ever say that she is not truly indigenous Hawaiian? 😐 Instead of putting words in my mouth, how about you think before you misinterpret my words?
@littlemisstfc
@littlemisstfc Жыл бұрын
@@tangoblast7614 this is literally what I said, but people wanna start problems.💀
@morigaena333
@morigaena333 11 ай бұрын
I just don’t understand how that’s a problem but Ariel isn’t? Like you guys were constantly saying how Ariel can be whatever race and it doesn’t matter but because the actress they chose for Nani- who I believe is Hawaiian- is lighter skinned suddenly it’s a problem
@nahlakeepsyappin
@nahlakeepsyappin Жыл бұрын
as a kid, i thought it was so weird how darkskin poc that aren't black are rarely shown in media. it's sad, and the fact that people DEFEND this colorism too.
@imthebossmermaid3648
@imthebossmermaid3648 Жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@divine555
@divine555 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, the amount of times I've seen people classified us native Americans as "copper skinned" is infuriating! Traditional (before Columbus and other colonizers) natives were very dark skinned!
@snooker7107
@snooker7107 Жыл бұрын
I am sick of Hollywood
@Kawaiipony_Productions
@Kawaiipony_Productions Жыл бұрын
Honestly, majority of people are.
@rachellindsay2401
@rachellindsay2401 Жыл бұрын
This is why influencers are way more popular nowadays than actors and singers. Also ableism still exists in Hollywood as well. Why is it that people who don’t have autism play people who have autism?
@snooker7107
@snooker7107 Жыл бұрын
@@rachellindsay2401 You're right. Its only very few shows that get representation actually right. Heartbreak high actually has good Autism rep with an actress that is actually Autistic.
@Kawaiipony_Productions
@Kawaiipony_Productions Жыл бұрын
@@rachellindsay2401 right. I rarely see autistic characters played by autistic actors. One of the few examples I can think of is June from The Ghost and Molly McGee and that's very recent. And even so, autistic rep isn't done properly. Not to mention, we rarely see those with other types of disabilities on shows or movies (and even so, not even treated right), like those who have down syndrome, have wheelchairs, prosthetic legs and/or arms, those with ADHD, DID, OCD, and other stuff. the ableism in Hollywood is also really bad.
@izzyc127
@izzyc127 Жыл бұрын
@@snooker7107 there’s also Twyla in G3 of monster high who is voiced by an autistic actress and is not offensive like Maddie Ziegler’s character in music.
@jourdonpatron212
@jourdonpatron212 Жыл бұрын
Disney knows they wouldn't get away with this shit if they casted Zendaya to play Tiana. They wouldn't get as much flack for casting lighter skinned Non-Black pocs cause it's not treated on the same level as whitewashing of black characters.
@Artsy913
@Artsy913 Жыл бұрын
I will be genuinely upset if they cast Zendaya or Amanda Stenberg to play Tiana tbh, her design is literally based off her voice actress who is a black woman of a darker skin tone.
@thinkbetter5286
@thinkbetter5286 Жыл бұрын
​@@crackkillspuppies Whataboutism is the laziest rhetorical device.
@SlapstickGenius23
@SlapstickGenius23 Жыл бұрын
@@Artsy913 I agree!
@faiyaz9768
@faiyaz9768 Жыл бұрын
@@Artsy913 same
@lewa3910
@lewa3910 Жыл бұрын
I swear if Steven Universe ever gets an official live action version and they cast Connie lightskin, i'm fighting FR (I really have no interest seeing the liveaction Lilo and Avatar despite loving both cartoons as a kid). And yeah asian colorism is a huge issue. In Bangladesh it was so normal to see billboards advertising skin lightening creams. That was late 90's-early 2000's, & haven't been back in a decade so no idea how it is nowadays, but i would not be surprised if they're still around.
@mirandabee2323
@mirandabee2323 Жыл бұрын
Took me a hot second to realize you meant "I'm fighting for real" and not "I'm fighting Flight Rising." Legit sitting here thinking, "leave the dragons out of this!" No, but do fight for real; I support you.
@Kenzinru
@Kenzinru Жыл бұрын
I really am sick of it and Hollywood is totally right unfortunately. Like, these days I have a hard time watching something if I notice a lack of poc representation. Or just bad representation in general. I just can't unsee it anymore. Also that drawing at the end was pretty dang cute.
@henriqueabraao2218
@henriqueabraao2218 Жыл бұрын
Why America Chavez is afro latina in the comics but indiginus latina in the movies of the mcu , i think it is kinda colorist
@harriyanna
@harriyanna Жыл бұрын
it's colorist, featurist and texturist. it's just racist at this point.
@SET-SSNN
@SET-SSNN Жыл бұрын
FINALLY SOMEONE WHO MENTIONED THAT
@phylasvell
@phylasvell Жыл бұрын
It’s incredibly racist, but that’s the normal for marvel/ the mcu. It’s filled with colourism casting
@izzyc127
@izzyc127 Жыл бұрын
@@phylasvell don’t forget the whitewashing of Wanda and Pietro Maximoff. And although it’s not Marvel, there’s also the whitewashing of Nightwing in the Titans TV show and I’m fully afraid of how they’re going to have Damian Wayne portrayed in James Gunn’s DC movies even though he was seen liking tweets of people wanting Damian to have a darker melanated skin tone due to his Arab and Chinese heritage. Side note: With the way that Ra’s and Talia al ghul had their skin tones lightened in the dark knight movies and numerous cartoons, I really hope that if they were to appear in live action again, they get someone of a Arab descent or an AAPI actor to play both Talia and Ra’s al ghul because I honestly liked Alexander Siddig for being accurately cast as Ra’s in the TV show Gotham.
@AikoSilver
@AikoSilver Жыл бұрын
and xochitl who played America Chavez, she is biracial. her daddy is native indigenous, but her mother is white
@MomoManimi
@MomoManimi Жыл бұрын
The reason why colorism with non-black POC isn't talked about enough is because THEY don't bring it up enough. The reason it's brought up more with black people is because we bring it to ppls attention, We have always spoken up for ourselves. I feel like they've only recently begun to speak out on things like this after seeing us call out the bs on a regular basis.
@kenshix7902
@kenshix7902 Жыл бұрын
Mind you, they also side with their oppressors. How many POCs do you see talking about here on KZbin too? Why did it have to take Harriyana to say all this? I'm sick of us having to be paragons for people who don't even care and seek the approval of the dominant society. There is no POC coalition.
@MomoManimi
@MomoManimi Жыл бұрын
@@kenshix7902 I COMPLETELY agree. It's always us with the cape, amplifying the voice of others and getting disrespected in the end. They always end up asking "What about us?? Why do we only discuss the issues black people have?" Because you guys haven't SAID anything!
@tangoblast7614
@tangoblast7614 Жыл бұрын
​@@kenshix7902 While I feel like there is a grain of Truth here I think this criticism is short-sighted to unfair. non-black POC is a whole lot of people to lump together. I'm sure some of the speaking up goes on behind a language barrier so outsiders wouldn't be aware. Some communities may have a culture of keeping heads down, but that doesn't mean no one ever speaks up. There is however a tendency to not perceive their grievances as serious when they do speak out so their voices don't gain as much traction. A lot of people don't have the bandwidth to even comprehend racism outside of a black vs white dynamic. There aren't a lot of prominent non black POC creators to start with, and when you narrow it down to the ones willing to engage with racial issues (because mind a majority of creators of any background aren't trying to do that), the pool is even smaller. That said I've still come across channels of non black POC who consistently engage with racial issues of their demographic.
@nicatina
@nicatina Жыл бұрын
I'm Latino and anytime when I speak up about racism and colorism, I somehow made people mad on both sides (the oppressors and non-black pocs) because they couldn't handle the truth on being called out for their ignorant and bigotry view that's coming from a non-black poc (me) and not a black person this time, it do be very tiring and exhausting on having to deal with those people on a daily basis.
@prinxen1733
@prinxen1733 Жыл бұрын
*I mean... I think this is a extremely unfair, I know plenty of people who speak up about it and do their best to create diverse media that reflects their own lived experience, etc. I don't think it's a recent thing, I've been on about it, and my mom has been on about it since I was a kid, and her mom before her :/ *Just because it wasn't allowed to be heard it doesn't mean it didn't exist. I could discuss the reasons why it's hard to either speak up or get your voice out there but I won't drag on unless you ask ^^
@theluigifan1
@theluigifan1 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely despise how rampant colorism is in Hollywood. It’s been visible for decades and it’s showing little to no signs of changing on a drastic scale. But thankfully, there are directors like Jordan Peele and Ryan Coogler who understand just how big of an issue this is and always advocate for putting dark-skinned actresses in leading roles. Black men characters? They can be dark-skinned no problem. But it always seems like light-skinned black actresses are first in line for black women characters. It needs to change and I’m glad there are some people trying their best to be a part of it. But there’s so much work that needs to be done in order to dismantle all of it. Those goes for other brown people, ofc. That casting announcement for live-action Nani had me tilted fr.
@theluigifan1
@theluigifan1 Жыл бұрын
@@sadaomao7425 Not funny. Didn’t laugh.
@veganpower7825
@veganpower7825 Жыл бұрын
Redheads are 2% of population. Those are real minorities. 😂
@veganpower7825
@veganpower7825 Жыл бұрын
So an actual Hawaiian who was raised there is upsetting you. How racist can you be😂.Hawaiians don't care as long as the culture is represented correctly. No one cared about tinkerbell, wild boys or Ariel being falsely represented on your side.
@SlapstickGenius23
@SlapstickGenius23 Жыл бұрын
There are also redheaded Iranians, orangey brown haired Moroccans and redheads with partial west African ancestry.
@theluigifan1
@theluigifan1 Жыл бұрын
@@SlapstickGenius23 Okay?
@BluffsCastle
@BluffsCastle Жыл бұрын
There’s lots of colorism in anime. Often you have a dark-skinned character who gets turned lighter when there’s a remake or adaptation. For example, Toji Suzuhara from the NGE anime has the brownest skin out of anyone in the cast, but later on, the manga had his skin as light as snow, to the point where he looks like a different character (the anime is not based on the manga, as the manga was made to promote the anime and has a different ending). Also, how they made Casca’s skin super light in Berserk 2016, just one of several reasons why Berserk 2016 is garbage
@sherimango3868
@sherimango3868 Жыл бұрын
​@@digimonalvatrax2738 yeah I noticed dhe gets super light in her time skip design and it's just wrong.
@jackalope3374
@jackalope3374 Жыл бұрын
@@sherimango3868 Robin was always meant to be light skinned in the manga. Toei made her dark skinned in the anime because Oda hadn't released her official colors at the time. I agree that whitewashing anime characters is awful, but this was a case of the animators making a mistake and then sloppily trying to fix it.
@espeon871
@espeon871 Жыл бұрын
Same as the brother from card captor 😭 he got so whitewashed its so comical cuz its so bad that he looks goofy, like casket ready and people in anime dk how to colour pastel artwork w dark skinned people
@sherimango3868
@sherimango3868 Жыл бұрын
@@BloodyBraces lmao exactly
@sapphic.flower
@sapphic.flower Жыл бұрын
I was also thinking about how dark skinned girls in anime have such poor portrayals. They’re usually sexualized or are less feminine compared to their daintier light skinned counterparts. Especially the way Gyaru girls are portrayed as bullies when it’s literally just a style, it feels so sexist and colourist to typecast what is just an aesthetic.
@lewa3910
@lewa3910 Жыл бұрын
the 2000's teen titans really commited crimes with their character designs from the original😭 The way they made everyone think Raven and Jynx were Wh'yte when they were original dark brown indian girls 💀 DC deserves its downfall right now
@fusetunes
@fusetunes Жыл бұрын
right and the continuous creepy sexualization that male fans give raven as like their 'pale goth girl fantasy' even though she's a literal teenager and that's in the title of the show...ugh
@kerisaltchannel3817
@kerisaltchannel3817 Жыл бұрын
@@fusetunes EXACTLY. I’ve always had issues with that
@user-dd4oq9ht4z
@user-dd4oq9ht4z Жыл бұрын
No it wasn't. She is daughter of white american woman. She just was wearing typical indian clothing
@o2gappy
@o2gappy Жыл бұрын
@Keri's Alt channel frrr and in the reboot teen titans go there was a whole episode or two the lady legasus episodes were dedicated to sexualize her
@BirdWord03
@BirdWord03 Жыл бұрын
@@fusetunes I really hate how they’ll be told that they’re teens and a good majority of ppl will pull the “it’s just a cartoon” excuse. A child/teenage having a crush on a fictional character their age is 100% fine, but that crush should die off as they grow older. If you’re an adult and you still think characters like Dora the Explorer are attractive, get fucking help. And the grown ass adults that make sexual art of the young characters just screams p3d0 behavior. Mfs will literally have adult characters like Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman and Harley Quinn staring them in the face, and will STILL go after kids like Raven and Starfire. I have to constantly remind myself that one of the creators of MLAATR knew about that one vid Zone made of Jenny, and he didn’t tell off Zone how gross it was to animate a teenager being r^p3d. He kinda just… let it slide 🫥
@deeford2486
@deeford2486 Жыл бұрын
Colorism is very prevalent in many regions of South Asia, where Bollywood actors are usually associated with light skin, and skin bleaching creams are heavily marketed. Thank you Harri for bringing light to this issue. I can see a lot of passion and effort into your videos.
@SlapstickGenius23
@SlapstickGenius23 Жыл бұрын
I feel optimistic about Sanjay Patel’s own version of Sita from the famed epic tale of Ramayana. She’s a dark skinned heroine and I like it!
@NiaG34
@NiaG34 Жыл бұрын
I had no idea the yt woman from Stuck In The Middle lied to get her role 😭 I remember people calling her out when she was in support of building the wall. How do you play a Latina but dislike them? Smh
@kerisaltchannel3817
@kerisaltchannel3817 Жыл бұрын
Wait what? Who? More importantly why!?
@NiaG34
@NiaG34 Жыл бұрын
@@kerisaltchannel3817 The girl that plays the oldest sister in Stuck In The Middle. I forgot her name but it was mentioned in the video.
@izzyc127
@izzyc127 Жыл бұрын
@@NiaG34 her name is Ronni Hawk and she also lied about being Latina on Netflix’s on my block.
@TheDarkAdventure
@TheDarkAdventure Жыл бұрын
Live action Moana gonna be Dove Cameron lol
@izzyc127
@izzyc127 Жыл бұрын
Nah, Dove is done with Disney
@TheDarkAdventure
@TheDarkAdventure Жыл бұрын
@@izzyc127 I know, it was a joke because she's a white woman
@FunFilmFare
@FunFilmFare Жыл бұрын
I'm not against a live-action Moana, I just think it's way TOO SOON for one. Seriously Disney announced it just ~7 years after the original. IMO remakes should wait at least 20 years after their original versions.
@Zixjndjdudj
@Zixjndjdudj Жыл бұрын
Not only defenders, I’ve seen some if not a lot of people say colorism doesn’t exist or call it a “term” gen z made up it’s sad af
@harriyanna
@harriyanna Жыл бұрын
colorism been a problem since SLAVERY but they don't wanna do their research.
@SlapstickGenius23
@SlapstickGenius23 Жыл бұрын
@@harriyanna I think India’s colourism dates way back to the making of Ramayana.
@BillyChainsawLives
@BillyChainsawLives Жыл бұрын
I don't know if you read a lot of comics but the way they did Angel Salvedore in X Men was dirty. Thick dark skin black woman in the beginning then suddenly she's Zoe Kravitz in both the books and movies. It was kind of insulting.
@KennyFrierson
@KennyFrierson Жыл бұрын
I remember watch the way the Berserk adaptations was doing Casca she kept getting bleach each show
@ThatGreenMach1ne
@ThatGreenMach1ne Жыл бұрын
SO TRUE!
@fusetunes
@fusetunes Жыл бұрын
ive seen multiple people being like "don't complain about live action nani, be glad the actress is even hawaiian to begin with! leave her alone and don't watch the movie if you don't like it!" like... nobody is actually targeting or harassing the actress, people are just upset that one of the ONLY visibly brown main characters in disney's library, and one who is often considered some of the best representation, is being lightened. even if we don't watch it, it's sending a harmful message that's part of a larger problem and we shouldn't have to be grateful for the bare minimum of aligning nationalities when you're actually seeing the actor irl and not as a voice role. and you're right, the kids who do end up seeing these remakes before the original will end up thinking these characters have always been pale or white. i had no idea jinx was poc!! so many people just blindly praise teen titans since it's a big nostalgic property so it's nice to see someone willing to call it out where neccessary.
@nitrofairywing1541
@nitrofairywing1541 Жыл бұрын
At this point I'm done with Disney, they gave us a black Ariel and people went ham cause they made half a BLACK woman and half fish, then they turn around and sit there and checked off that the actress was in fact indigenous Hawaiian and did not take any notice that Nani is a dark skinned Hawaiian and they sat up there and got a white passing person to play her, so they just say there and essentially found another way to whitewash, but light washing they own characters that they made. It's stupid at this point, if it's not one thing it's another, East Asians had an issue with Raya and The Last Dragon with it's representation and how parts of their culture were implemented into the movie with seemingly not a deeper understanding of it that would have it make sense especially to the people of whom it was supposed to be representing. I also remember when Disney came out with the second Wreck it Ralph movie and I remember seeing that initial commercial where they made Tiana mixed, I had to do a double take and I was shocked because also here in the states as I can speak for it cause I live here, we have black women characters that are darker skinned and get lightened in shows and everything, like it be seeming like dark skinned women speaking specifically cannot abundantly have main characters in media and it's effing frustrating as hell. It's obvious how they view about dark skinned people, they don't want them in media, and this is why when I do make stories I also make stories with clearly black characters cause I know for me I do not see enough of it, it is slowly coming into media, but they taking they time with it so I will be making my own shid. I stopped paying that 12 bucks for DisneyPlus a while back cause it ain't really worth the money, and I'm kinda sick of giving Disney my money period, if I find Disney I'm looking for it at discount stores and second shops
@beesnquackers
@beesnquackers Жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree, also us South East Asians were dissatisfied too. There's a few videos on Xiran's channel about this movie from several contributors!
@medtle1
@medtle1 Жыл бұрын
Correction: Southeast Asians were the ones upset with Raya and the Last Dragon. East Asians (and Southeast asians of East asian descent and mixed asians) were the ones that got defensive anytime they hear, read, and see Southeast asians complain about East Asians and mixed Asians taking roles away from Southeast asians. [It was f***ed up on what happened to the person that was originally going to voice raya but people do not know how rare it is for a non-mixed Southeast asian character to be played/voiced by a non-mixed Southeast asian woman. Disney cared so little about raya that kelly Marie tran felt forced to market the movie as one of the only 6 Southeast asians in the movie and the one who has a lot to lose if the movie fails (unlike the numerous east asian actors in the movie).] Southeast Asian representation is really bad (especially outside of non-se-asian spaces) and a lot of Southeast Asian roles get taken by East Asians and non-asians (same with how a lot of prominent non-se-asian roles get taken by mixed asians).
@haileyharmon5298
@haileyharmon5298 Жыл бұрын
Early! I'm glad that you made a video discussing colorisim because it's still a huge problem in media to this day, it even also affects anime/manga but also the beauty industry.
@arcie3716
@arcie3716 Жыл бұрын
I saw some people say that Nani's actress is half Filipino and that Filipinos are islanders which makes the casting choice okay. The term islander in this case was clearly being used for Polynesians which DOESN'T INCLUDE FILIPINOS! WE ARE SOUTH EAST ASIAN.Our looks, languages/dialects, and customs are very similar to other SEA countries. I'm so tired of hearing this debate in 2023. It causes so many diaspora wars and it's getting very tiring. Also wanted to point out that the actress that was casted to play Nani is half white and half Filipino. Fil-Ams that are ethnically half white also get more opportunities in the entertainment industry in both the U.S. and the Philippines.
@TheAmityElf
@TheAmityElf Жыл бұрын
OH, I'm glad you made a video about this! I can't wait to watch.
@najlaamara4889
@najlaamara4889 Жыл бұрын
it's crazy bc they can and will hide behind the not all so and so ethnicity has dark skin excuse
@y2klove581
@y2klove581 Жыл бұрын
Colourism is insane in Asia im talking about my experience as someone who is half Thai and half white basically my mom who is full Thai would sometimes grab my hand and be like “oh your whiter then me” and just point it out and how she even said her cousin tries bleaching her skin like it’s insane how normalised it is
@phylasvell
@phylasvell Жыл бұрын
I’m so worried for the casting of esmelda when Disney eventually do a live action hunchback of Norte dame. Disney couldn’t even find a romani person for wanda so I’m worried for esmerlda who’s visibly a dark skinned romani woman specifically,
@izzyc127
@izzyc127 Жыл бұрын
That fan made poster with Gal gadot, Sacha Baron Cohen, and Josh gad was literally so bad. Gal gadot is a white passing Israeli and not Romani because the Victor Hugo book was racist since they made her a French woman being raised by Romani people which goes into the stereotype that Romani people steal children. Before anyone makes assumptions about me coming for Gal gadot, she and Esmeralda have different skin tones and Gal gadot has to sing and dance which is another requirement for her. Sacha Baron Cohen is another bad choice for the character of Clopin because he exploited a village of Romani people for his movie Borat by lying to them and saying he was filming a documentary. Josh gad can also keep his money in his mouth alongside Gal gadot because not only is he trying to take on the role of a Romani character that is Quasimodo, he is also a fully abled man because Quasimodo is physically disabled and Hard of hearing or deaf. If Disney wants to prove that they are fully committed to inclusion and diversity, they need to hire Romani actors.
@SlapstickGenius23
@SlapstickGenius23 Жыл бұрын
@@izzyc127 There are different kinds of Romani people; the dark haired+dark skinned individuals are clearly more common in places like Egypt. The others are of varying skin and hair shades, but who otherwise usually come from European nations located near subtropical or temperate seas.
@izzyc127
@izzyc127 Жыл бұрын
@@SlapstickGenius23 Whilst Ciara Renee is not Romani, she still has dark melanated skin and played Esmeralda in the La Jolla playhouse production. The Victor Hugo novel of hunchback is racist for how Esmeralda is written.
@imthebossmermaid3648
@imthebossmermaid3648 Жыл бұрын
My friend told me that if The Princess and the Frog came out today, Tiana would be lightskin and that's true and sad. 🥲 It seems like nowadays we're actually doing worse with colorism, not better.
@imthebossmermaid3648
@imthebossmermaid3648 Жыл бұрын
@@izzyc127 Especially since she wasn't even Romani by birth, but kidnapped by Romani people, which was the only reason she was "pure" and "innocent" unlike the rest of them.
@izzyc127
@izzyc127 Жыл бұрын
So glad you made this because I recently did an essay in my English college class about the racism and colorism in the Latino/è community because so many Telenovelas in Mexico prefer actors with euro-centric features. I’m also thinking about how Tenoch Huerta is so outspoken on the colorism and racism in Latin America that a lot of people were coming for him so he has written a book about it. Side note: there has also been a lot of racism and colorism surrounding Namor in the Marvel fandom with people saying they wanted Luke evans as Namor but if you look at Namor’s backstory, he was always POC coded and even in most comic book appearances today, he was drawn with a darker complexion and when he made his first appearance in the late 30’s, he was even drawn as an Asian man and dealt with Xenophobia. There’s also a huge amount of people that seemed to be fine with Jason Mamoa as Aquaman even though he wasn’t Hawaiian in the comics. 👀🤨
@SlapstickGenius23
@SlapstickGenius23 Жыл бұрын
For AquaMan, his actors are casted for their abilities rather than their appearances.
@izzyc127
@izzyc127 Жыл бұрын
@@SlapstickGenius23 okay and?
@SlapstickGenius23
@SlapstickGenius23 Жыл бұрын
@@izzyc127 Jason Momoa has played AquaMan with a lot of great abilities, because he’s currently a bigger talent and a more experienced actor now than he was when he played Conan and failed.
@izzyc127
@izzyc127 Жыл бұрын
@@SlapstickGenius23 my comment was about the double standards there is when it comes to Tenoch Huerta as Namor and Jason Mamoa as Aquaman.
@SlapstickGenius23
@SlapstickGenius23 Жыл бұрын
@@izzyc127 ohhh. Jason Momoa has paler (albeit still olive brown and tanned) skin, but he is a part European American/part Shawnee/part native Hawaiian. Tenoch Huerta has somewhat darker (medium light brown coloured) skin and is an indigenous Mexican.
@sannh
@sannh Жыл бұрын
A big example of this is Sabine Wren from Star Wars Rebels. Not only did they cast a lighter skinned woman, they also gave the character long hair, making her more closer to white beauty standards.
@captaincaspian42
@captaincaspian42 Жыл бұрын
She's in live action now?! Aww man watch them make Kanan and Ezra really white as well too 😭
@mizzypink8
@mizzypink8 Жыл бұрын
YEP I JUST LEFT A COMMENT ABOUT THAT ON HERE TOO
@mizzypink8
@mizzypink8 Жыл бұрын
@@captaincaspian42 Ezra surprisingly got decent casting I’m afraid for Kanan
@SamTankko
@SamTankko Жыл бұрын
I swear them making a bunch of live actions and making the characters black isn’t being inclusive it’s more like “Oh hey we don’t feel like actually taking the time to learn a darker skin culture and create a beautiful story and character for your culture so we made Ariel Black and Tinkerbell Black 😄👍🏻” 😑😑 It comes off more colorist and racist that they know what the community wants and they’re basically saying No you aren’t worth it.
@BaobhanloreArt
@BaobhanloreArt Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing these alt right anime commentators make videos about people complaining about the racism and lack of black representation in anime, obviously trying to paint a narrative of the "woke left" ruining anime. And they'd list "black" characters in the comments as a way to say that representation was there, but half of them weren't black, a quarter were tokenised and the other quarter had racial issues. They were trying to say Nagatoro and Katara were black. They listed Smokey and Onyankopon as good representation (I love aot and JoJo but one is used to make the protagonist a white saviour and the other exists to say "black people live in this world"). And then there's Sister Krone.
@PeterGriffin11
@PeterGriffin11 Жыл бұрын
I understand wanting diversity but I think it's important to remember there are not that many black people living in japan so naturally there aren't gonna be many African American characters in anime.
@fantasyyyworld
@fantasyyyworld Жыл бұрын
I’m glad you brought up Roni Hawk because it reminded me of all the telénovelas I used to watch with my mom and how most of the time the people that would show up are white people…Like I literally be hearing my own grandparents say that “I don’t want to get dark” or “I don’t want my child to get dark” HELLO?? You literally have brown & dark skin grandchildren, children, and relatives who are dark and brown skin? Me being one of them hurts a lot, but that goes to show why colorism is such a problem and it’s sooo irritating seeing the way lighter-skin or white people call us brown or darker-skin people “sensitive” LIKE HONEY IT DOESN’T AFFECT YOU SO OFC YOU’RE GOING TO VIEW IT THAT WAY.
@PaulKapow
@PaulKapow Жыл бұрын
Can we talk about the ever lightening of Setsuna / Sailor Pluto's Skin ?? Yes I know there are problems thematically.
@mizzypink8
@mizzypink8 Жыл бұрын
This is like when the Ahsoka trailer came out a week ago and it was pointed that Sabine has been whitewashed when her original voice actress Tiya Sircar is Indian and her family is voiced by other Indian/japanese voice actors and they casted a half white/half Chinese actress to play her and the actress has lighter skin than the character and it’s just being brushed over it’s a huge problem all around. Colorism and whitewashing rn everywhere I can’t BELIEVE they did this to Nani
@thegaymothman
@thegaymothman Жыл бұрын
so glad you made a video on this! it's horrible colourism is actively DEFENDED by people
@rachelmartin5102
@rachelmartin5102 Жыл бұрын
Love the video and yeah I'm just going to watch the original Lilo and stitch ❤
@naomistarlight6178
@naomistarlight6178 Жыл бұрын
Within Asians, more representation of nationalities other than Chinese and Japanese would be nice. You see it more with newer cartoons but the cartoons I had as a kid, all the East Asian characters were either Chinese or Japanese, which is why the joke of the Laotian neighbors being Laotian worked so well at that time.
@SlapstickGenius23
@SlapstickGenius23 Жыл бұрын
South Koreans have their K-Dramas, which have super pale skinned actresses as heroines. I’m rather disappointed about it.
@imthebossmermaid3648
@imthebossmermaid3648 Жыл бұрын
Also more representation for Asians who aren't East Asian as well, like Indian, Cambodian, Malaysian, Filipino, Vietnamese, etc. Also, ore Asian Latinos since they are practically erased from media.
@yos6071
@yos6071 Жыл бұрын
You know each individual country has their own entertainment studios, right? Not only western and asian studios, but also african, middle-eastern, and so on? Why do we want outsiders to make our representation when we have our own entertainment insidstries to make our own entertainments? As if we have the mindset that there is no other studios beside in Hollywood.
@SlapstickGenius23
@SlapstickGenius23 Жыл бұрын
@@yos6071 ooh yes. Nigerian studios have their own Nollywood movies. Turkey has its own tv dramas. Mexico has telenovelas.
@yos6071
@yos6071 Жыл бұрын
@@SlapstickGenius23 There you go. You now think ahead and most of the problems solved. We don't need to ask helps or any requests from outsiders when we can make our own.
@PaulKapow
@PaulKapow Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your insights! I want write a book on this. Okay let's start with an essay 😅 It fits in to the branch of philosophy called aesthetics.
@Turquerina
@Turquerina Жыл бұрын
It's gotten to a point where whenever I see a light-skinned person of color, I instead envision a darker skin person in their place... Fabiola from Never Have I Ever could've been dark-skinned but apparently that'd be too much for the writers to handle since they already have Devi. The way colorism and misogyny intersects is just absolutely wild. Hollywood's resistance to dark skin and plus size is not only repugnant but it hampers creative freedom to express variety and diversity in a story. Like what you said, the indie market just does better at committing. It'd be cool if there's a lot more indie live-action content in the future.
@babybluejustice
@babybluejustice Жыл бұрын
so apparently disney casting halle as ariel is outrageous BUT.. them whitewashing characters from lilo & stitch and not even doing a background check on one who used racial slurs on social media is FINE?
@morethanamess1980
@morethanamess1980 Жыл бұрын
Definitely described our concerns in a classy way, tysm
@JandroSingz
@JandroSingz Жыл бұрын
Great video!! Thank you for discussing the important issue of colorism 🙌🏽
@funzodaic7909
@funzodaic7909 Жыл бұрын
colorism also affects black people especially young black women in the industry.
@dotcombabytm4644
@dotcombabytm4644 Жыл бұрын
Ok this is gonna be very interesting and very timely. I've shared aspects of my mixed ethnic background (Afro-indigenous, Afro-Latina, Afro Jewish, Afro-Desi, etc.) numerous times on this channel; this time I'll talk about my blasian roots (black, Chinese, Jamaican, Filipino, Afro-Bahamian, Vietnamese, South Indian, Haitian, Japanese, Afro-Creole, Korean, etc.) and lately I've been in the process of understanding my culture and many cultural untranslated emotions attached to my Asian heritage just as I try to unpack those same layers with my blackness. It really meant a lot for you to say that dark skinned Asian people exist cause after a ton of time for me to embrace my blackness, I've since learned to embrace my Asianness and I've embraced being a dark/brown skinned Asian. So I think think this video is very important.
@Jojo_Ojo_14
@Jojo_Ojo_14 Жыл бұрын
Requirements for Nani 1. Hawaiian 2. Dark skin 3. Thiccc How did they fumble this? They casted Lilo correctly 🙄😒
@liciee14
@liciee14 Жыл бұрын
I agree about having a more positive representation of darker skin people of color and they do matter. It makes me upset every time I see people do fan casts of movies and the whitewashed casting of characters is getting tired. Why can Hollywood cast dark-skinned people cast as main characters in genres like fantasy, fairy tales, and sci-fi? Hopefully it changes in the future.
@Tacom4ster
@Tacom4ster Жыл бұрын
Anne Boonchuy is so cool. Wait for my comic, it has an Afro Cuban Aspie Environmental superhero who also plays lead guitar in an all female death metal band.
@KaliyahKayoni
@KaliyahKayoni Жыл бұрын
“What you gone do fight me??” MMHMMMMMM SUBSCRIBED😭😭
@naomiruiz30
@naomiruiz30 Жыл бұрын
Lilo and Stitch was a major part of my childhood. It was one of the only times I saw anyone in Disney that looked like me. I'm half Mexican and Filipina (who was actually born in Hawaii) and I hardly see anyone that looks like me in media. Whitewashing Nani in the live-action is a slap in the face. Thank you for talking about this, Harri. 😔❤️
@dilldirk284
@dilldirk284 Жыл бұрын
So was black washing Ariel and tinkerbell… now you know how it feels… your hypocrisy is showingb
@sakurayankishi9708
@sakurayankishi9708 Жыл бұрын
Cope
@hanathompson6801
@hanathompson6801 Жыл бұрын
I feel the same way. Nani and Lilo made me feel less alone as a girl of color
@kevonhankerson2124
@kevonhankerson2124 8 ай бұрын
@@sakurayankishi9708 dont be rude
@sakurayankishi9708
@sakurayankishi9708 8 ай бұрын
@@kevonhankerson2124 you are right, I'm sorry
@daisythomas5601
@daisythomas5601 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I am tired of the media always defending colorism. Hopefully Hollywood will start making more dark skinned poc characters. I really loved Isabella Madrigal, from Encanto, because she was a dark-skinned Latina with a hooked nose, but you know if Disney made a live action remake, they would whitewash the shit out of her. Dark-skinned girls of color need princesses, fairies, superheroes, wizards, and other fun characters, too. Dark-skinned women of color matter.👩🏾‍🦲👩🏿‍🦱👩🏾‍🦱🧕🏿👵🏾👩🏿
@dia9916
@dia9916 Жыл бұрын
I will not be supporting this movie whatsoever - the casting director clearly don’t understand the media landscape and how important it would be to center a dark skinned Hawaiian actress
@scorpzgca
@scorpzgca Жыл бұрын
This is so true Starfire is black and so is Cyborg colourism abosutely sucks for dark skinned folks
@characatogamer7859
@characatogamer7859 Жыл бұрын
what weed did you smoke? starfire is orange skin tone, and ray was great, the productors and hamonada, ups jamada, where racists.
@scorpzgca
@scorpzgca Жыл бұрын
@@characatogamer7859 I mean Starfire was black coded
@kenshix7902
@kenshix7902 Жыл бұрын
​​@harriyanna hook They also cast a Yt British guy to play Monkey D Garp in the Live Action One Piece. In the anime Garp was Dark Skinned. He also looked ethnic, especially in Flashback scenes of his youth
@debgenerate
@debgenerate Жыл бұрын
"This is why I keep on preaching to go to the independent market because that's the only place where things are going to get better." 🙌🙌🙌 Not only does Hollywood not care about genuine representation but they will also only tell stories that they know for sure will get them money. I remember watching Strange World, which is pretty good with representation, but is a story that I've already seen many times in Disney movies and was bored with. Bland movies like Strange World, if they have representation, will use that representation as a mere tool to sell said movies. If you look into independent work you will also find people who are more in need of your support than large companies, and these people are probably more genuine in their care and their craft.
@imjustsaying281
@imjustsaying281 Жыл бұрын
Any recommendations?
@jxstjada
@jxstjada Жыл бұрын
the ppl in these comments being willfully dense are so annoying...
@yourfavoritepessimisticexi8041
@yourfavoritepessimisticexi8041 Жыл бұрын
I love this hair on you
@KaiKailuv
@KaiKailuv Жыл бұрын
YES! YES! AND YES!
@itisntevenagoodone
@itisntevenagoodone Жыл бұрын
First of all Lilo and Stitch doesn't need to be live action anyways but also I adore Nani and it makes me so mad that she's gonna be lightskinned ugh
@_Yeeboi_
@_Yeeboi_ Жыл бұрын
5:30 crap this is just like the April O'Neil inncident
@Callmekatielee
@Callmekatielee Жыл бұрын
This is why I’ll always shout out Bridgerton for casting a dark skinned South Asian woman and a short, plus size woman as well.
@Peacebewithu34
@Peacebewithu34 Жыл бұрын
Facts
@izzyc127
@izzyc127 Жыл бұрын
If you want to catch up with Simone Ashley and Nicola Coughlan, you can catch Simone Ashley in the upcoming Little mermaid movie and you can also catch Nicola in the upcoming Barbie movie.
@laegume
@laegume Жыл бұрын
9:32 We don't need a live action anything lmao.. and yet they keep making more. Cartoons aren't just "for kids", live action remakes aren't any more "mature", like how executives and directors try to pretend. 16:42 Ion be watching them either, I ignore the advertising and everything, the originals will always be the best.
@SilverandGoldL
@SilverandGoldL Жыл бұрын
It's also featurist
@chevy_joy
@chevy_joy Жыл бұрын
I am from Mexico, and people know damm well they almost only cast light skin people for shows, movies or commercials, it's almost the norm that casting companies post about an upcoming opportunity and they only want "International latinos", literally and explicitly saying they want light skin, green or blue eyes and brown (not black) hair. It's extremely rare for dark skin people to be famous over here, honestly.
@user-qi9xk1cu4b
@user-qi9xk1cu4b Жыл бұрын
The amount of brain dead comments here is really disappointing. Can’t say I’m surprised though. It the internet after all lol.
@ImaniVersus
@ImaniVersus Жыл бұрын
Yes come out swinging!
@flytothemountains824
@flytothemountains824 Жыл бұрын
let’s also not forget about what happened in that AWFUL 2015 live-action Jem and the Holograms movie with how they casted Shana Elmsford. i got into an argument with someone who said that “sHe LoOkEd BlAcK tO mE", LIKE HELLO? SHE'S VERY LIGHT SKINNED IN THE MOVIE, IN THE CARTOON SHE IS SUPPOSED TO BE DARK-SKINNED
@izzyc127
@izzyc127 Жыл бұрын
Didn’t they also cast Hayley Kiyoko who is half Asian as Aja?
@flytothemountains824
@flytothemountains824 Жыл бұрын
@@izzyc127 Yes
@izzyc127
@izzyc127 Жыл бұрын
@@flytothemountains824 never mind, they did I remember now.
@thegeckojo5803
@thegeckojo5803 Жыл бұрын
Hello!
@chayoritheartist
@chayoritheartist Жыл бұрын
As a part Filipino, I am yet to see representation beyond some side character who is or head-canoning that they might be Filipino (though I mostly watch cartoons), or that when we are represented in major roles they are of darker skin, as the standard for light skin is very much true. As I am mixed (though still raised with aspects of our culture), I am someone who may be considered light-skinned and am sometimes told my lighter skin could easily get me an acting role or modelling, which I'd hate to think of depriving full dark-skinned Filipinos that are way more qualified for the role.
@HichamTellaj-ms3gm
@HichamTellaj-ms3gm Жыл бұрын
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@aliceveil622
@aliceveil622 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I saw the live actors for Lilo and Stitch. Lilo is played by a dark-skinned child actress, but Nani's actress looks...lighter.
@cringeopedia
@cringeopedia Жыл бұрын
Some of yall need some better reading comprehension skills or AT LEAST need to actually read the title cause there’s no way yall can misunderstand that harri is talking about colorism with NON-BLACK poc when the title is right there…even says it again at 17:57 like tell me you didn’t watch the video in a few words and yall would be quick to do that than actually educate yourselves on the topic of nb colorism, film industry or not, which is literally what this video is about.
@Zenaidafromthemoon
@Zenaidafromthemoon Жыл бұрын
3:09 My Western Armenian friend is darker then some of my Nigerian and eithopian friends 😭
@williamfulk2060
@williamfulk2060 Жыл бұрын
Plus any live action disney movie remake is a soulus cash grab
@asiadorsey2369
@asiadorsey2369 Жыл бұрын
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@eduardopantoja9115
@eduardopantoja9115 Жыл бұрын
Have you made a review on Moana because I'm interested to know what you think
@bunga-apricot
@bunga-apricot Жыл бұрын
this hits especially hard as an Indonesian because most of the media here only ever represent super light skinned people when our country has so many ethnic groups that have been underrepresented for so many years. and that comment about the skin bleaching always remind me of my own experience as while i’m relatively super tanned my mom always says things like how beautiful i am with the light skin i have. it also reminds me bule hunters which i honestly don’t have much information on but basically it’s only being attracted to yt people 😬
@Lilothestitch
@Lilothestitch 3 ай бұрын
I feel like a lot of things have been completely hyper normalized like colorism and racism.
@SunnyBunny-bm3jq
@SunnyBunny-bm3jq Жыл бұрын
It's so annoying when people say the casting for Nani is okay because she has Hawaiian ancestry and that you are racist because you are denying her descent Like baby no It's like casting a lightskin black woman as Tiana (Like Zendaya or Isis Naija Gaston (ice spice)) it doesn't mean these people are not their own race enough it's just they are way to light for that specific character Or a darkskin person for snow white (tho they did get an latina to play her It's not that bad because she is at least lightskin as the story of Snow White is about how pale her skin is the race itself is not as important) Or an even better example for white princesses that shouldn't be raceswapped would be Elsa,Anna and Merida as their they are cultural films (if they wanna make an live action remake of The Snow Queen story with POC they should make a whole brand new cast as making the frozen cast a different race and culture would erase the norwegian representation the original had) Also for those white ariel warriors most of the other white disney princesses like Ariel didn't have have a specific culture they we're representing like most of them don't have a specific place they are in I mean the movie is about mermaids 😅 Why can some of them be darken but none of them can be lighter? Because darker skinned people barely have any representation that's why
@orion5445
@orion5445 Жыл бұрын
So do you think a white actress should've been casted as Ariel for Little Mermaid or Haille Berry was good enough?
@SunnyBunny-bm3jq
@SunnyBunny-bm3jq Жыл бұрын
​@@orion5445 I love Halle Bailey she's really pretty and her voice is gorgeous, my own problem with the live action Disney remakes is that most of them aren't that colorful and cheerful compared to the originals and tbh I'm just tired of live action remakes in general it's getting pretty annoying I might give the little mermaid a chance tho bc I love mermaids
@rjmckenzie4706
@rjmckenzie4706 Жыл бұрын
I am also scared to for the Moana remake. Honestly, Disney needs to stop but I know they won't. Moana is beautiful in my eyes and the way she is, so is Nani. Why make them light skin and pretend they were ugly, but in reality there pretty. I am not gonna watch no remake I got my good old originals.
@rjmckenzie4706
@rjmckenzie4706 Жыл бұрын
@@springsbliss4094 That's nice, but at least they could have gotten a actress that had a her complexion instead of being light. In my opinion, Disney should have hired someone else.
@ariaaaaaa
@ariaaaaaa Жыл бұрын
@@springsbliss4094 i rlly hope they don't colorism is already a huge issue in pacifica communities, young pacifica children seeing a moana who wasn't as dark as they hoped would be bad
@sakurayankishi9708
@sakurayankishi9708 Жыл бұрын
@@ariaaaaaa really, it would be bad, u think children care which color skin they see on TV
@PaulKapow
@PaulKapow Жыл бұрын
Thank you for seeing me! Yes I exist! I am a dark skinned Asian! I am from an Asian indigenous tribal group. I am an artist as a performer and visual arts as well! 🎨💅
@anitanielsen1061
@anitanielsen1061 Жыл бұрын
When I was starting out in anime, they were so pale I thought they were white cuz I thought Asian peeps WAS your color!
@ninjakiwigames5418
@ninjakiwigames5418 Жыл бұрын
Some of the comments on this video really completely missed the whole point of this video. I saw so many of them say "but (insert character here) isn't black!" as if the title of this video isn't literally "... colorism issue with NON-black people of color"
@Axolotl_Anarchy3970
@Axolotl_Anarchy3970 Жыл бұрын
Lilo and stich is very special to me because me and my older sister have a similar age gap and a similar connection. I would never want the characters to be used in a way that makes others feel bad! (I'm only in middle school so sorry If my grammar makes it sound wrong, i have poor grammar :(
@GonzoIsCool
@GonzoIsCool Жыл бұрын
Arghhhhhhhh!!!! BAD DISNEY!!!!!!! DO NOT WRECK MY NANI!!!!!!!
@ariaaaaaa
@ariaaaaaa Жыл бұрын
why is there bots in the comments😭
@lreneewell9154
@lreneewell9154 10 ай бұрын
So glad you are talking about this. I see a lot of people defending this saying "well these same people support Little Mermaid" and people are TRASHING Rachel Zegler every chance they get because she's Latina playing Snow White and are so ignorant to the amount of whitewashing and colorist castings that have been happening in the industry LONG before Halle got casted as Ariel and how it is WAY different than colorblind casting. Just proves these people don't actually care about accurate casting, just when it comes to white characters. I also understand there were also some people of color upset with Ariel's casting also. However, most of them expressed upset because they would prefer an original black character, which is something I can sorta understand. I'm pretty sure most of these white people who were against her casting aren't advocating for that though and would also get upset if they were making more original characters of color and weren't making white characters anymore. So it just shows they don't care about pocs, especially dark skinned people.
@Mouseandyam
@Mouseandyam Ай бұрын
Omg don’t even get me started on how Aladdin is a mix of south Asian middle eastern and North African influences all in one (because to hollywood those are all the same country..) so then they could have cast someone with a darker complexion from ANY of these countries as Jasmine but instead they went with a very pale racially ambiguous half Indian woman. Basically they HAD options because of their orientalism in Aladdin but still chose the closest to white that they could get .
@Mouseandyam
@Mouseandyam Ай бұрын
Sorry I know im a year late 😅
@laurenr842
@laurenr842 Жыл бұрын
As a person with a grandma from the pacific islands, they have hella brown and dark skin people to choose from. Moana and Nani being light skinned in live action would really limit their reach bc so many fewer girls from the islands and globally will be able to see themselves represented. Just bc white skin is the dominant representation so far does not mean the whole world wanted that. There is an incessant need in western corporate media to stomp out any real meaning and connection w people and culture to make a perfect Disney package. And it is so revolting bc our families aren’t on the screen despite their lands, languages, cultural heritage, and laborers being exploited in the making of these films. Me and my 3/4 white cousins are darker than who they cast for Nani lol there’s a 0% chance we’ll feel called to see the film unless they bring in more darker skinned cast and crew members and compensate them appropriately. No more Lin Manuel Miranda either, pls and thanks.
@hanathompson6801
@hanathompson6801 Жыл бұрын
Yes! Thank you!
@pat6377
@pat6377 Жыл бұрын
Even with all the researched culture references used in the og Moana we all know they’re gonna stuff this up just like their butchered APPROPRIATED Disneyland Moana float dance recently… plain ignorance and laziness that’s all it is. Hollywood still holding onto that whole ‘hmm.. looks _____ enough to me, they’ll pass😁’. The other issue with Hollywood is that they mainly recognise white and black people but ‘everything else between’ is too complex for them. They struggle to comprehend that they’re actually not all the same and just lazily group them together which results in like an Indian actress depicting a middle-eastern descent princess to a half white/Filipino actress depicting a NATIVE Polynesian Hawaiian. Hell, they group asians and Pacific Islanders together for AAPI month so ain’t surprised this miscast happened. Hollywood only continue to fuel the colourist toxic beauty standards of minority cultures, cause they just keep further enforcing to them: “Being lighter (or having more European features) means you’ll be more successful”.
@hanathompson6801
@hanathompson6801 Жыл бұрын
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@shawnreeve1567
@shawnreeve1567 Жыл бұрын
TND NOW
@veganpower7825
@veganpower7825 Жыл бұрын
Emotional Damage!😂
@SagelBagels
@SagelBagels Жыл бұрын
"But but harri what does anime characters got to do with HOLLYWOOD colorism?" Because...media literacy.
@ariaaaaaa
@ariaaaaaa Жыл бұрын
they just casted sydney agudong, a white woman for nani right after this video😭
@jxstjada
@jxstjada Жыл бұрын
i thought Sydney was Hawaiian and Filipino? but they were still other ppl better for this role...
@ariaaaaaa
@ariaaaaaa Жыл бұрын
@@jxstjada those are ethnicites, her race is white, and her ethnicities are supposedly filipino and Kānaka Maoli from what I've heard
@smok3ywuff784
@smok3ywuff784 Жыл бұрын
So a black woman’s allowed to play Ariel, but a light skinned Hawaiian woman not allowed to play Nani???🤔😑
@ariaaaaaa
@ariaaaaaa Жыл бұрын
@@smok3ywuff784 she's a white hawaiian not light skinned get your terminology right at least
@ariaaaaaa
@ariaaaaaa Жыл бұрын
@@smok3ywuff784 yes a black woman is able to play ariel, ariel has no race, she is a fish, we already went over this last year in 2022, get a grip
@blushpinkbunny
@blushpinkbunny Жыл бұрын
The hate comments are slowly flooding in… ppl mad that she put non black ppl in the thumbnail even though this video clearly isn’t meant to be about black ppl
@imthebossmermaid3648
@imthebossmermaid3648 Жыл бұрын
I was literally having this exact same conversation with a friend of mine about Nani's casting when this video popped up. It's like a gift from heaven! And we were saying the exact same thing as you, people don't seem to realize that non-Black poc can be dark-skinned. At least with Black people, they know darker-skinned people exist, they just choose not to cast us(especially women). But with non-Black poc it's like they don't even recognize their existence! This was my problem with the casting in Encanto, particularly for Isabela, Mirabel, and Antonio. You're telling me that they couldn't have found anyone darker-skinned to voice these three dark-skinned characters? Was that too hard of a task to accomplish? Sigh...
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