Good on den for putting the prison guard in his place, den wasn't frightened if he had something to say he'd say it. Plus what he said was bang on "Without this place you're nothing" . These authority figures really do think they're someone special and say what they want because you can't answer back. So good on den.
@Zedd15005 жыл бұрын
RIP Leslie Grantham (Den Watts)
@ryanalexi44463 жыл бұрын
Defo
@kailashpatel17062 жыл бұрын
brad sounded like a true east end boy..the other guy always sounded like a oxbridge student turned gangster but still back when the series was gritty and frankly superb..
@gravy180rs2 жыл бұрын
Yeah deffo, these guys were genuinely intimidating. Miss these days with The Firm, Jack Dalton and Johnny Allen, when you had proper mafia-esque gangsters in the show. Not like the jumped up drug dealer like thugs you get in the show these days.
@brianmurray71172 жыл бұрын
@@gravy180rs absolutly the old episodes are much better like the firm where very realistic
@rocksoliddude12 жыл бұрын
the Oxbridge-sounding guy was an advisor for Dalton.
@willleon9165 Жыл бұрын
Still realistic unlike cartoon gangster rubbish nowadays🤣🤣
@jimjames98597 жыл бұрын
Would be nice to see some more scenes like when Den was on the run and the afternarth of his Shooting near the canal and the day of his last day in the square before he started work in the wine bar
@chrishughes78457 жыл бұрын
The oxford firm ? Spiffing chaps
@Unicysis2 жыл бұрын
More like pompous prats
@purplemask4204 Жыл бұрын
Love Den Watts
@brianmurray74073 жыл бұрын
this is when this was a decent programme and realistic
@SwimminWitDaFishies Жыл бұрын
Decent program, yes. Realistic, not entirely. It's pretty funny how scenes jump around. One minute I was watching an episode where Ian was telling Kathy off and calling her a slag. A few scenes later, Ian is professing to Kathy how much he loves her and how she's been such a wonderful mother. It's pretty funny!
@AM14652 жыл бұрын
He sounds more like he should be narrating public information films than he does a gangster. Got a ring of "Protect and Survive" about him.
@oulbeever8 жыл бұрын
These were the golden days of the show. Do you have anymore prison scenes with Den?
@JustPassingThrough278 жыл бұрын
I have them all , lol. I I like the way the light switches off on Den , as though its his death. And what do you think if Gregory Mantel ( the boss ) ? I think he is menacing, upper class, head of Walford Investments , which is a front for The Firm, but there is a sinister twang about him. He looks nasty
@oulbeever8 жыл бұрын
+CanadianMaster1 Mantel was fantastic, was he killed or just disappeared when the storyline ended? I often wonder if Eric Mitchell (Phil's dad) was in The Firm before his death. Claudette Hubbard seems like the person with connections. I hate to bother you mate but i requested the Nick & Dot scene from 20 April 1998 a while back, do you have that episode? EastEndfan300 told me you had most years.
@JustPassingThrough278 жыл бұрын
+Derek Anderson I do have that 1998 episode , I am having trouble converting them right now, I will try again tonight . Mantel's last episode was Den's canal death. He was the guy with the binoculars and who talks into the walkie talkie (if you have seen it ) . After Den falls into the canal, he was never heard about again , which is a shame as he was good. Only Mr Vinniecombe was above him, but I am really baffled as to why they made Mr Vinnecombe (the top boss ) as the body found in the canal, for not getting Den dead, rather then Mantel , (the second boss , who gave the orders) . Any road, it was Den who died at the canal for me...his return sucked. I don't think Eric Mitchell was in the Firm, because the writers have ret conned all of this. The Mitchell's came from another area originally , but the writers have glossed over this and re written it. Very unrealistic . I would have loved a scene with Brad , Mantel and The Mitchell Brothers though
@oulbeever8 жыл бұрын
+CanadianMaster1 Vinnicombe never appeared did he? I remember in late 1985 everyone in the square was talking about a murder victim going through a meat machine and the Vinnicombe family were responsible. Den also says he went to school with 2 Vinnicombes when threatning Nick Cotton. Vinnicombes/Dens first funeral are on dailymotion. The user is called soapiedish and the video is under 06-05-1990 ( incorrect date) it was 1st May. Barnsey also made an appearance at the funeral and Nick shits himself when he see's him lol. Thanks also for getting the 1998 clip. Great channel :)
@JustPassingThrough278 жыл бұрын
+Derek Anderson I have seen the funeral scenes , (Dens in my opinion ) . I have also seen the finding of Den's body in the canal , after Sharon found his ring in a market stall. I have never seen that episode where they mentioned the meat machine ... where was it discussed ? And by whom? I prefer the 80's Firm to the 2000's Firm by far, more realistic in my opinion . What do you think of Brad Williams? I like that he can be funny and serious in the same scene
@spiderman-uz6fy8 жыл бұрын
JACK DALTON WAS THE BOSS VINEIECOMBE WAS HIS RIGHT HAND MAN, MANTEL WAS THE SUPERVISOR, ABIT CONFUSING I KNOW.
@Zeekoso7 жыл бұрын
Vinnicombe was the boss at the time, Dalton became boss after Vinnicombe was possibly murdered
@khansahib71106 жыл бұрын
Zeekos Red Phoenix yep. Dalton killed him and put him in canal
@LARK-ht7kd2 жыл бұрын
Damnn
@gammergq8 жыл бұрын
That geezer to push to be a gangster.
@garydevlin81786 жыл бұрын
gammergq k
@Unicysis5 жыл бұрын
The way he reprimands his team for failure sounds like a health insurance commercial.
@chloemarsh6123 жыл бұрын
But years later In 2003 he did a Armed robbery with phil and left phil to get arrested as he knew he was going down with phil for something he did do
@JayJay-nc7pr5 жыл бұрын
The Firm leaving Walford paved the way for the Mitchell brothers to take Den’s place
@brianmurray74074 жыл бұрын
that pair of low level louts do not even come close to the firm who where like the mafia a proper criminal organization
@brianmurray74073 жыл бұрын
not even in the same league the firm where like the mafia a full-on gangland organisation serious villians the mithchells are a pair of low-level petty thugs
@driver48324 жыл бұрын
Best part of this is the Geordie police man
@Unicysis2 жыл бұрын
And Den was the cleaner
@chloemarsh6123 жыл бұрын
What was Den in prison for? Or was he innocent?
@jessehordley953 жыл бұрын
I think I heard somewhere it was for murder but I'm not sure
@doctor_gibbo13922 жыл бұрын
He burned down the Dagmar as revenge for Wilmott Brown attacking Kathy.
@Luluxxxx2 жыл бұрын
@@jessehordley95 That was in real life !
@jimjames98596 жыл бұрын
shame there arent any futher episodes leading up to den being shot and the afternath videos of the episodes
@purplemask4204 Жыл бұрын
Love Eastenders
@andrewward9374 жыл бұрын
The firm where was jack dalton then
@leecomber10623 жыл бұрын
He was an offscreen character at this time.
@Unicysis2 жыл бұрын
In the toilet
@rocksoliddude12 жыл бұрын
He ordered the meeting and hit, but wasn't present there.
@alexrobinson48028 жыл бұрын
po and tj m wheres my c
@startracker58956 жыл бұрын
A posh guy as a gangster? Yeah right! Lol
@leecomber10626 жыл бұрын
both jack dalton and johnny allen were upper case classy men.
@MarineAqua455 жыл бұрын
Star tracker He was hired by vinnicombe to front The Firms legitimate activities as a finance advisor & to throw off suspicion from the police. Vinnicombe ran it, with Dalton & Mantel was the gangsters direct boss.Obviously they needed a crooked finance bloke to run things well & they hired him. How many cockney finance blokes were around back in 1988-89? Not many.
@kailashpatel17065 жыл бұрын
Brad always talked like an Eastend hardman...That blond boss sounded implausible...
@brianmurray74073 жыл бұрын
why not he was just a ruthless allow how he got to know eastend gangsters like the vinniecomes always interested me pity there was no backstory anyway he was likely getting paid a ton of money
@cartoonhead8404 жыл бұрын
Crap firm if he lived lol
@alexrobinson48027 жыл бұрын
w my c xxxx
@wakeup21332 жыл бұрын
Who on God's Earth was responsible for the terrible script from the mob boss at the start of this clip.