The First and Lost Build of Ocarina of Time | Zelda Cut Content

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Thank for watching everyone! Next time we plan to do a Ura Zelda video as a transition point to Majora's Mask. Also this took surprising long simply cause the portal effects I had to key into this. PS. I accidently had this premiering an hour earlier than I wanted (literally uploaded it before I slept), so as such I apologize for not being there for the premiere. I'll plan to be more careful next and join again for the premieres!

[@shadowledastray]

I still wonder what Ura Zelda would have looked like had Aunoma been more interested in the project. Or if Miyamoto hadn't supported his idea for a sequel, would those beta Majoras Mask dungeon maps from Giga Leak have been integrated into OoT's world instead? So many questions..

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

@@shadowledastray Pretty much I believe. In many ways while people clamour for Ura Zelda, we technically got it if we play both Master Quest and Majora's Mask. We pretty much I believe got Majora's Mask by taking assets of Ura Zelda to make it. I'll plan to go over these in more detail in that Ura Zelda video.

[@shadowledastray]

@@TheObsessiveGamer That's the impression I got as well.. we didn't lose Ura Zelda, it's new ideas (outside dungeon remixes) were simply repurposed to make a new game. I certainly like that better than the old "Nintendo has the real Ura Zelda hidden away on some old hard drive" rumor. Lol

[@legendarycollins538]

I'm hallucinating to see this game world in our world

[@catriamflockentanz]

I am surprised that this build (lost or not) even is a built at all. I always assumed this was just a pre-rendered video that didn't ever "saw" an N64.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Yeah that is probably the most surprising part, but I guess they did really want to prove that the N64 could do all this and not go bait and switch with its abilities (like the PS1 with all its prerender cutscenes they used for ads)

[@dogboi76]

It's amazing still seeing beta content. These old trailers and pics use to haunt me back in the day just wishing I could get a glimpse. The N64 Goldeneye remaster prototype has finally hit the surface to public and I hope to see the same with beta Zelda 64

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

We got some of Zelda 64 that was leaked in the past year, so maybe more and a full build of one could be one day too.

[@ThePainlessGamer]

It’s a tough call man but I’m with you on that. The golden eye thing came out in a different generation where everyone had internet and games were online and such so I think it wouldn’t be as easy for stuff that old. We just gotta hope someone with a cartridge dumper can get a hold of an old build and maybe then we’ll have to worry about that because not that many have those for n64 games. Compared to more recent game consoles which you could dump games from a soft modded console to a usb flash drive.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

@@ThePainlessGamerThat is the hope that we can get more builds and content through these old dev carts at this point. Gotta keep mining for them.

[@legendarycollins538]

Awesome Beta Games

[@GameOverJesse]

Amazing video. Thank you for showing your sources, unlike other channel that make stuff up and spread misinformation. You make the best videos on these topics.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Thank you very much Jesse! Yeah I like to avoid false info and make sure to separate theory and fact here. Glad you enjoyed my videos!

[@literaltrash2275]

When it comes to zelda stuff I only trust you and Game Over Jesse…

[@ninjafrog6966]

what misinformation? lmao!

[@shadowledastray]

I remember seeing those screens in magazines as a kid, when N64 was first revealed! Had no idea there was more to the trailer build, especially not an area outside Hyrule Castle that used portals. Mind blown! Thank you for all your hard work on these videos. This is the best channel on KZbin for Zelda 64 cut content, and I look forward to seeing other games in series covered.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Thank you very much! I am glad you enjoyed it that much and hope you enjoy the more from us. Also always amazing seeing how much more there was to old screenshots like that

[@sus-gibble4721]

That early forest temple stage looks amazing 👊 Thanks O.G

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Thanks! I do like using that as a good castle mock up sometimes as such.

[@zaizen4359]

That crystal portal concept is SUCH a cool idea. I wouldn’t have minded seeing that being used if Nintendo had decided to make OoT a more linear game like Super Mario 64. It would have been a very cool alternative to jumping into photos!

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

The portals idea is truly a really nice idea which I do hope Nintendo returns to try even if the game Portal did it too. Could be quite unique in combination with Zelda

[@BigSipFromGossipStoneSIPPYSIP]

This is just... wow. A very different game indeed!

[@Dave.A.R]

This tech demo reminds me of the NGC and WiiU Zelda tech demos. It's like Nintendo is used to show the power of their consoles with some Zelda themed demos which are never meant to be released.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

I mean as of recent we did get some evidence from Goddard that the area where Link fights the silver knight did find its way in the game as the Forest Temple :P

[@bottombarrelbudgetfilms1854]

Finally the algorithm doesn't screw you out of me seeing your videos on the same day! Haha another great OoT installment! Looking forward to your take on Ura and MM. I've never seen much on MM Beta so I'm very looking forward to your insight

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Heh glad to see algorithm is doing nice again. Yep look forward to those! As I am myself

[@Bones1220]

Ditto!

[@nintendo4life132]

Amazing to look back how Nintendo developed these games, wish I could play the beta games stage one development

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Hopefully we all can one day. Hopefully they allow Goddard to release his copy

[@bezolsmate]

@@TheObsessiveGamer wait, he has a personal copy of the 95 build?

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

@@bezolsmate yep

[@bezolsmate]

@@TheObsessiveGamer I doubt nintendo would ever let him release it, more likely he'd do it on his own accord when he's left and Nintendo can't punish him.

[@acrawford01]

I’m imagining if the OoT would have been built off of his original engine, imagine the improvements that could’ve been made with Ura Zelda/ Disk Drive. This man has so much potential

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

He is a technological and innovative genius. Makes me wish he could have stayed with the Zelda team from then on

[@solidlink97]

Amazing work man! Can’t wait for more cut content!!!!

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Thank you very much!

[@IfYouSeekCaveman]

That's a very creative pronunciation of "Dylan Cuthbert" at 2:38

[@SovrinnK]

Dye-lonn Cooth-burt sounds so much cooler :D

[@undefeated3257]

I absolutely love this channel . Great work

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Thank you very much! Glad you enjoy my material!

[@TarkiTark]

I think they could’ve stay with that and see where they could go with that engine for the very first build

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Indeed especially with the technological advancement of it. Goddard staying with the Zelda team could have been quite beneficial I imagine

[@emmastarr5242]

So it's...still on his hard drive??! * insert So there's a chance meme here *

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Only if Goddard gets permission I imagine though lol

[@WinVisten]

We should ask him to record some more videos of it! -Obviously he can't share the ACTUAL build because "Wait. That's illegal.", so videos are the next best thing!-

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

@@WinVisten haha, at most we could ask him for more details I imagine, but I almost think he won't be allowed to show footage

[@emmastarr5242]

I mean, obviously I don't support the idea, but if a mega important corporate entity like Nintendo can get Gigaleaked...

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

@@emmastarr5242 I mean yeah retrospectively none of us "officially" support leaks, but if it happens... it happens (leaks are the main reason this channel even blew up in the first place XD)

[@Gorillarevolta]

Thanks Obsessive Gamer! The ideas that didn't make it into the final game blow my mind. It would be awesome if someone made a build that somehow implemented those features.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Hopefully, but would definitely have to be a more original mod if they did want to introduce Portal technology

[@bezolsmate]

Giles Goddard recently showed off the actual in-game portal function on twitter with a gif. He also said he *does* still have the build.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Yeah I saw that. I have been thinking about making a follow up video relating to it actually.

[@bezolsmate]

@@TheObsessiveGamer he said he’s “technically” not even supposed to have those items in his possession, so it’s probably unlikely that the build will be leaked. Still amazing he was able to code functions like that in 1995.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

@@bezolsmate yeah for legal reasons he can't leak it, but the preview we got tells us so much. Ps this post is what inspired to make my upcoming video on it

[@bezolsmate]

@@TheObsessiveGamer I’ll be looking forward to it, love your content

[@aerialister9604]

Thank you for making this series I always learn something new with each video :)

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Glad you enjoyed and learned from it! Got plenty more planned for Zelda and other games Cut Content

[@moonchild-kr9xk]

5:00 "...and even a more expressive Link" Link: 👁️👁️

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Goddard knew how to express Link well

[@ThePainlessGamer]

When I saw your other video and you showed us that dark nut/iron knuckle guy I thought he looked a lot like the silver guy in this trailer

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Yeah, likely this was even based off of old Dark Nuts/Iron Knuckles of 2D Zeldas, so it's fitting

[@Shades14236]

Zelda's Secret Ocarina gang!!! Killer series dude. Living my dream.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Thank you! and eyyy we gathering after all these years :3

[@coolbene]

Thanks you for this video and this series. It's rly entertaining to see all the things that didn't make it. Curious to find out what you will show us next.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed this series. I got Ura Zelda and Majora's Mask for Zelda Cut Content planned next. I got other Cut Content/History series going too like the Metroid Prime ones amongst many series. Stay tuned!

[@SgtSega]

Ura Zelda! I can't wait! :D

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Can't wait to make it!

[@Bones1220]

WOW!! I was not expecting so much information!

[@tvb5509]

Steel Divers on 3DS almost made me choke. At least he gave me a gateway to custom themes.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Yeah... Steel Diver was interesting to say the least, but at least worked as an early 3DS game

[@BobbyReborn]

another amazing vid. great work

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Thanks!

[@zsck]

Amazing video as always, I really enjoy the way you explain things and put us in context so smoothly, I can't wait to see the Majora's Mask video!!

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Thank you very much! and glad you enjoy how I go about it :)

[@ja4039]

I always wonder why Nintendo hasn’t opened up a museum or archive of some kind documenting all of this kind of cut content.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Honestly I think it's more that the people who care about this kinda stuff are more us westerners, which is why you see usually more western studios show off concept arts and beta secrets to the public (ie. Retro Studios) while Japanese ones tend to stay quiet.

[@ja4039]

@@TheObsessiveGamer That’s an interesting observation. I know nothing of Japanese culture in this specific regard. Any educated guess as to what disinclines them to engage with this kind of archival research?

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

@@ja4039 Well they technically have an archive that stays internal which is why we do sometimes get things like Hyrule Historia that shows us a lot of unused stuff, but I am not personally sure why there is more an interest here rather than there on the interest to cut content

[@fluffynator6222]

Because there's a lot of ideas that might be reused.

[@ja4039]

@@fluffynator6222 That’s a good surmise.

[@esraeloh8681]

Good god man "comment if you would have liked if Zeld had conitnued from this lost build" You're just asking for a fountain of comments. Jesus I wish Nintendo would resurect this version & use it as an alternate universe release of the game, & alternate from release to release between this version of Zeldas & the usual they types they create. But that will almost certainly never happen, what a thrill this has been to see all this way back, 95 man, I was 5 then, don''t think I've even played Links Awakening on the gameboy, but that was only 2 years separated from this build of OOT, that just blows my mind, narely 24 months between those 2, ahhhh so so very long ago now

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Well I do like discussion, so comments are always welcomed. They could just make this the "downfall" timeline then if they wanted to XD Yeah I think if the full concept of it was shown, it could have really shattered some minds

[@Thevaporwaveraver]

very exited for the URA zelda video.. i have been obsessed with URA zelda for years lol

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

I'm also very obsessed with it ...as The Obsessive Gamer XP Stay tuned! should be out soon.

[@RoseBleueDuRosierSec]

Didn't see the notification, but the "I just checked my subscription tab" squad is here!

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Glad you checked! :3

[@ericsan4344]

I’m excited for the Ura series

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Same here in making it!

[@PrimevalDemon]

I kinda thought that "build" was just a short video, using models or assets to show a concept Rather than an actual playable build

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Yep went far beyond our imagination lol

[@JoLiKMC]

To be fair, _Portal_ was based on _Narbacular Drop,_ released in 2005. Yeah, I know. One year's difference. But still.

[@PrimeStarStudios]

Portal before Portal? Holy crap! :O

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

ikr?

[@randomuploaderguy]

Where can I get these early builds mentioned in the intro, in playable format, and can they be run on Everdrive X7? Have they even been released/built? I'm intrigued.

[@Bones1220]

I didn't know there was more to the game in 1995

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Neither did I, which is why the earliest info on Zelda 64 comes out at the end of the series here XD

[@jonathanplooij3666]

thanks for the video

[@alexandreturcotte6411]

That super fx Link looks hot!

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

The OG right there :P

[@ZachAttackIsBack]

The first model of Link looks like it was based on the CD-I games.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

I'd probably say more Zelda 1,but I see the similarities lol

[@KnoxCarbon]

Oh boy!

[@Meph1k]

Amazing content

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Thank you!

[@fizz576]

I wonder how well that build would have ran it sounds like it would be really hard to get it running at a reasonable frame rate.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Well it apparently ran well enough, but when using the light gun is when it took a hit in performance. Crazy to think that portal technology was doable on the N64.

[@fizz576]

@@TheObsessiveGamer that's crazy hope someone leaks this build.

[@leandromafe]

Great video

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Thank you!

[@VictorHernandez-nj2lo]

Hows the research goin in climbing on & fighting a giant Ganon?

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Well haven't been able to find sources on that yet, so still going lol

[@AJ-ed7mx]

I see this just as i sit down to eat a big ole bowl of pasta. Buck yeah

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Pasta during one of my videos sounds like an excellent way to go about it :P

[@DarkPsychoMessiah]

One question, do you think other Zelda games had as much cut content as OoT?

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Good question. On the surface, no because OOT is the only one to have such insane leaks to show us how different it was, but also no because OOT was the first 3D Zelda, so alot of experimentation was done in trying to figure out how to make a proper 3D Zelda, therefore a lot was left on the cutting room floor and never to be used. Granted, up till Twilight Princess there was still a good deal of Cut Content regardless as far as we've seen, so I still got plenty to cover

[@Supersonicblue1027]

Well tbf some of the interior of hyrule castle is in the game we can see it in the windows at zelda's garden I guess they server as reminder of what was once an idea they had as well.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

True there is that. Though I have tried personally go hover to them. Can't even stand inside them as they have no collision lol

[@Cinder896]

Is there gonna be anymore?

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Well we got more Zelda Cut Content planned as I said at the end of the video. Majora's Mask and Ura Zelda for example are the next ones I plan to go to as Ocarina of Time has dried up at this point. We literally explored everything we can for the moment here. It doens't mean it's the end for Ocarina of Time Cut Content, as new cut material may come to light as they have prior. As well, I do have a big historical/complication 3 parter planned that I want to do that explains the entire development process of Ocarina of Time and compiles what we've explored through 10-11 months of these Cut Content episodes. Hope you watch all these and I hope you watch the other new episodes of other games Cut Content that I plan to do.

[@Cinder896]

@@TheObsessiveGamer your gonna do Ura Zelda I would die to see it I am a big Ura Zelda fan

[@zarikomarcer739]

Could you ask Guiles Goddard to give us his early build?

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

In that interview he did with MinMaxx, he did mention he legally can't release that without awakening the wrath of Nintendo. So doubt we can get it so easily even if I asked him

[@flexhornboringstar]

Can't wait for MM

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

We are already into Majora's Mask for some time. Check em out!

[@lara3780]

You showed 2 Kirby games there, Kirby's Air Ride and Kirby Ball 64, not just one

[@lara3780]

Btw both ideas transformed in what we know now as Kirby Air Ride for the Game Cube

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

That was all shown under Kirby Ball 64 in the Spaceworld Showcase I found? So maybe they were kinda more connected?

[@tourguideplays5477]

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

heh, hope you enjoyed it!

[@tourguideplays5477]

@@TheObsessiveGamer sure did! Keep up the good work ☺️

[@tyg-zw7nn]

3.5 years development for an N64 was a long enough time to have 4-5 different builds of a game, huh? Today I feel like games undergo less drastic changes maybe. Seems like a full game takes like 5-6 years now in maybe one or two stages? Idk I'll keep watching. Hopefully you have stuff all the up to newer games.

[@masterkil371]

Great info! Always curious for more. Btw is it just me or is his pronunciation of the word "button" a tad off?

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Thanks! Is it off?

[@Bones1220]

Hahaha it is very enunciated

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

oh I see. It might be because i'm Canadian rofl I think we pronounce our T's a bit more than Americans do, but not as heavy as the British.

[@masterkil371]

@@TheObsessiveGamer Either way, nice videos! :D

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

@@masterkil371 Thanks!

[@jacobmalone5296]

2:39 Harold & Kuthbar go to Nintendo

[@Bones1220]

URA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@raymondjack4634]

The photoshopped portals in the wood temple. Someone that knows how to mod portal make this real so I can run around Oot with portals? I'm sure I'm not the only one who would buy it.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Tagging myself here to see if anyone knows as well :P

[@KnoxCarbon]

Some madman made portal tech work on N64. Then he got slapped with a cease and desist, because our corporate overlords demand absolute power

[@GatorOne-in7hk]

Warp arrows and now just Portal before it existed. Clearly this type of gameplay mechanic is meant to be, but I’m not confident it’ll be in Breath of the Wild 2.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

At least we got flight to an extent this time in BOTW2 lol

[@AnAverageGoblin]

zelda fans mistaking tech demos/hardware demonstrations for actual lost games is surprisingly common.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Well during that time I could understand why especially since the other N64 games shown off weren't tech demos too.

[@MrAsh1989]

When you say five you say foive, when you say content you say chonthentah, and you're the only American in history to pronounce his T's.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Yeah... that's because i'm not American lol I'm Canadian. We I believe say our T's a little more strongly than Americans lol

[@SilentVinyl]

wow portals and reflective water on n64

[@tyg-zw7nn]

It took a very long time for many other developers to make good 3D games meanwhile Nintendo made some of the greatest 3D games in existence right off the bat with the shitty N64 lol. Even with all the restraints.

[@sgtpieman]

I dunno I'm not sure he's telling the truth. The guy being interviewed, I mean. He's promoting this new game of his, we recently have these leaks making interest in early N64 builds peak again, and then all of a sudden he's like "BTW I worked on the first map for Ocarina of Time in a secret build and I came up with Portal's gimmick and got it running and light mapping running and real-time reflections on N64 but nobody except me ever saw it." Bull. Absolute bull. I mean I'm not saying it's impossible but the timing and the details are SUPER suspicious, and when pressed about it he pauses for like, ten seconds looking around scratching his head going "Uh uh uh" and then just says "I guess because... nobody ever saw it..." I'm not gonna call him a liar but we only have his word for all this. It's not a great source at the moment. I'd love to uncover what he was talking about in a new leak or something down the line and be able to compare it to this interview like how we can compare the Mario Kart town track to the interview describing it and the parking garage. The only things we have to back his claim up are the Super FX Link and a tech demo featuring a different model entirely. Tech demos aren't builds, they're tech demos. Just like that one for Wii U where the only thing used was the lighting engine for Wind Waker HD. I just don't think we have enough evidence to cast off the skepticism and extremely suspicious other factors surrounding this dude.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Giles Goddard is a well known and reputable game developer who is well known for his work on Star Fox , the Super FX chip, and the Mario 64 face while holding a strong tie with Nintendo internally. He is a professional developer with years of history and I doubt he would be making it up. As well, the interview he had with MinnMax didn't talk about his game at all, but rather about this specifically. Also it's perfectly understandable for him to pause. This is a build from 26 years ago, so trying to remember details can be a little tough afterall. There is no real suspicion unless a detail actually is off, which nothing points to it. His history alone speaks for him.

[@edwardholder429]

Wooo

[@jess648]

honestly that trailer was just them saying “yeah Zelda’s coming to the Ultra 64” but its cool to see the scrapped ideas they had throughout the games early development

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Basically, but Goddard definitely was I think trying build up to be more. Shame they didn't try to build off his build

[@Jonjooooo]

Guyals Goed'ard

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

oof did I mess up the pronunciation?

[@Jonjooooo]

@@TheObsessiveGamer hahaha nah dude you made it 1000x better

[@Tazerboy_10]

Interesting... (With all due respect; Goddard sounds like a health issue/disease...)

[@zberlord]

lasagna

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Been a while since I had some :P

[@GunmannYT]

Portal 3

[@AiGeneratedWaluigi]

portal 0.5

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Portal 0, if one will :P

[@Matto-5000]

Lol so much repeating videos. Over and over again.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

That's the problem when there is only one trailer for this one build lol Best I could do while mixing in renditions with it too.

[@98voteforpedro]

The portal was probably farores wind