Beta Character Designs of Ocarina of Time | Zelda Cut Content

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The Obsessive Gamer

The Obsessive Gamer

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@BlueAmpharos
@BlueAmpharos 3 жыл бұрын
11:26 Final version of Impa didn't wear her mask correctly, beta Impa covered her nose so doesn't spread Covid or whatever diseases Hyrule might have had so easily. Also actual ninja had their noses covered too, so it fails in that regard as well.
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
I had been waiting a long time for someone to comment this. I can't believe it took this long even
@BlueAmpharos
@BlueAmpharos 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheObsessiveGamer The covid joke or the part about true historical ninjas covering more of their faces?
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
@@BlueAmpharos The covid joke, but the Ninja was also makes alot of sense lol
@Mari_Izu
@Mari_Izu 3 жыл бұрын
@Yol Riin Lask You're using "cringe" in 2021.
@x2bannedyoutubeaccount408
@x2bannedyoutubeaccount408 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mari_Izu you have a game character as a pfp. End it ;)
@SgtSega
@SgtSega 3 жыл бұрын
I think the Great Fairy they scrapped was unfinished and the one they used was just easier to animate. I imagine her wings were able to move and she would have an actual face and move around like the final version was able to, albeit more... subtle.
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I imagine this one was a lot more stiff and more like the generic ones we get outside of OOT and MM.
@themapcartographer5952
@themapcartographer5952 3 жыл бұрын
That version of Ganon with the horns and grin looks so badass, wish we got to see how we would fight that.
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
A more agile but weaker Ganon battle I can imagine, which would be really nice
@FalconOfStorms
@FalconOfStorms Жыл бұрын
With a sword
@hyperhedgehog7
@hyperhedgehog7 3 жыл бұрын
semi-transformed ganon is so cool looking
@SonicJrandSarah
@SonicJrandSarah 3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow. I find the beta designs to be pretty impressive, but I can't say there are any beta designs that I prefer over the final game's designs. It's interesting how you mentioned that the Kokiri were originally going to grow-up at some point. I am betting at this time, Link was actually meant to be considered a Kokiri, or that Kokiri was just a name given to the villagers of Kokiri Forest and not an actual species name. A while back, I had made a video where I talked about if the mayor's receptionist in Majora's Mask could actually be Saria's terminian counterpart as they both have green hair, given as to how they happen to be the only two characters between both games besides the Great Fairy of Courage to have green hair. After watching this video, I am wondering if the receptionist's model is a modified version of what would have been the older version of Saria. It's possible that she could be, even though I did find a beta screenshot of the mayor's residence in Majora's Mask showing the bombchu girl in the receptionist's place, indicating that her model was not finished at this point. Although if the receptionist was in fact a grown-up Saria, she was probably being modified during this time. As far as Nabooru and the Iron Knuckles, I think the Gerudo in the Iron Knuckles that aren't Nabooru actually holds Nabooru's beta model, rather than it being Nabooru herself, explaining why they are slightly different. I am wondering if NoClip.Website will add the beta maps of the Deku Tree as well as Jabu-Jabu's Belly to their website. I am guessing they won't, but it would be neat to look at these areas in better depths than just screenshots and videos.
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah based on an interview from Miyamoto (which I mentioned in my Cut Story Part 2 video) that Link was supposed to be a Kokiri. As for the model being a beta Nabooru model. Always possible, but at the same time, the fact that the mouth is covered like that with a sort of chainmail makes me think this is supposed to be a unique model to the Iron Knuckle and thus not Nabooru. As well based on the beta designs of Nabooru, these Gerudo all had mohawks, something Nabooru never had in any of the beta sketches of her either.
@aisadal2521
@aisadal2521 3 жыл бұрын
I get so hype whenever new beta stuff gets released! It really boggles my mind that developers haven't released all of the beta stuff by now
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I feel devs usually don't want these ideas released as a lot of us then ask for them after 😂
@Xhepyxopila
@Xhepyxopila 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Nintendo added a beta ROM of SM64 into 3D All Stars as a bonus
@jonasnelson3051
@jonasnelson3051 3 жыл бұрын
I think the Mamamu Yan early model isn’t actually her early model, it’s the one right next to her in the house, the one in kakariko, the other woman in the clip specifically. Time at 14:59 to get exact, the clothing of the model is much more fitting to the other woman, her clothing has the same black bottom with a pattern, and a red or brown top (partially color blind so I have trouble with those kinds of colors)
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
Ah good eye, this might actually be the case then considering the design on her skirt at that.
@TitansTracks
@TitansTracks 3 жыл бұрын
What I like about these videos of your attention to detail. Most of us would have glanced over those pixelated beta photos. But you took the time to make comparisons from the leaked characters to those old screenshots. This all makes for a much more interesting and engaging video as opposed to you just rambling about cut content. Great work OG, keep it up! 💎
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! and honestly Cut Content is about those small details really as they can have such a huge story behind them at that sometimes like that Ocarina Pedestal video that dug super deep for example
@TMIScott
@TMIScott 3 жыл бұрын
OoT is still my favorite Link design, as is the Master Sword and the Mirror Shield.
@Dave.A.R
@Dave.A.R 3 жыл бұрын
Can't unsee the Iron Knuckle's femenine chest after this. Never noticed it before.
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
Yep how I felt the first time when I learned this fact too lol
@DjSamination
@DjSamination 3 жыл бұрын
20:15 I don't know if someone has mentioned it, while the kanji is blurry (but the first letter is definitely 盗, which has to do with thievery), but the letters behind the kanji are very visible. And they say ガノン, which is Katakana for Ganon (Ga-No-N)
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
So thief Ganon. Makes sense
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Originally this was supposed to be a combined video with Beta Objects too, but I decided to make a video on each of these and greatly expand on both topics. and i'm really happy with how that turned out. As such, next Zelda Cut Content should be on the Beta Objects. Stay tuned!
@dakotakirkpatrick1335
@dakotakirkpatrick1335 3 жыл бұрын
Ura zelda
@evdestroy4121
@evdestroy4121 3 жыл бұрын
@@dakotakirkpatrick1335 Master Quest
@dakotakirkpatrick1335
@dakotakirkpatrick1335 3 жыл бұрын
@@evdestroy4121 Master quest is not ura zelda
@nerium.nerium
@nerium.nerium 3 жыл бұрын
7:04 purple is considered an "evil" color in Japan, so that might be why they chose purple
@gaming-oyvinator
@gaming-oyvinator 3 жыл бұрын
zelda got a lot of purple though..
@moonmelons
@moonmelons 3 жыл бұрын
@@gaming-oyvinator Purple dye had historically been regal because it didn't fade, this making it much more desirable and expensive than other dyes. As Hyrule is heavily based on European royalty it explains her heavy purple.
@acrobaticjazzie
@acrobaticjazzie 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's one of the best videos i have ever seen from you! Nice animations, transitions, putting the models side by side. It was really nice watching it!
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you :3 Glad you especially enjoy those animations and transitions. They are one of the reasons for the amount of work required on the video lol
@u2ber1617
@u2ber1617 3 жыл бұрын
1:08 the reflection texture on the shield must be the same one they found for metal mario in mario 64
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe so, and same goes for that silver knight
@OneBasedGod
@OneBasedGod 3 жыл бұрын
I love that years later we still talk about Ocarina of time. First games I ever played was Megaman 8 ps1 then Legend of Zelda on 64
@Moonstrider
@Moonstrider 3 жыл бұрын
This was really amazing watching! You simply cant learn enough about this 20+y old game😂🙏🏻
@Lady_Lilith666
@Lady_Lilith666 3 жыл бұрын
It's always interesting to see how game was changing in progress of development. OOT is the most interesting example of such game, even when a lot of years passed after release of the game
@RaphBlade7
@RaphBlade7 4 ай бұрын
The upside-down Triforce wouldn't have been Lorulean the time as OoT's development predates the development of A Link Between Worlds!
@PrimevalDemon
@PrimevalDemon 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love the beta great fairy! Just lovely design. Always wished I could encounter it in game somehow. Such a shame the design never resurfaced
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it had a really nice design. With some work on its animation and also giving it a face, it could be really nice
@AJ-ed7mx
@AJ-ed7mx 3 жыл бұрын
Beautifully done, good job bro, glad to see your videos being more popular now, you are my new favorite N64 nostalgia dude 👌🏻
@sonidash216
@sonidash216 3 жыл бұрын
TheObservantGamer, the monster version of Ganon on the lower half looks more like his CD-i counterpart, same with the Adult Toon Link concept for Wind Waker also looking somewhat like his CD-i counterpart.
@Mikumo91
@Mikumo91 3 жыл бұрын
Wanted to say the same, ty!
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
Well can't unsee that now lol
@ZeldaMaster285
@ZeldaMaster285 2 жыл бұрын
I want to see Ocarina of Time retold with as many ideas as they can place inside it without completely destroying the overall story now that they can do things like fly and have no loading zones. It would be crazy to see this done in Breath of the Wild engine.
@FierceDeityRick
@FierceDeityRick 3 жыл бұрын
2:21 ugh why did they get rid of some of his movements like sticking a landing on a back flip???
@robintst
@robintst 3 жыл бұрын
Concept Link's brown pants come from his Zelda II appearance. Same Link as in the first game but 4 years older at 16.
@AzureRoxe
@AzureRoxe 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that you could see Gerudo and the resemblance to Nabooru specifically [and the fact the eyes seem so wide] seems to simply that the point of the battle with her was to slowly remove her armor till it was revealed it was Nabooru brainwashed and having to fight her without most of the Iron Knuckle armor. This also explains why ALL Iron Knuckles have it, they re-used the entire thing and forgot to remove Nabooru's head.
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
Within this very video I did explain that the head on other Iron Knuckles are different form Nabooru's and even showed as side by side of it. This proves that they intentionally made other Iron Knuckles different from her including the inside model. The intention was all along for Iron Knuckles to be Gerudos overall.
@plattyppus
@plattyppus 3 жыл бұрын
The amount of work you put into these videos is impressive. Also, I like your voice.
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! I'm glad to hear people like my voice as I never thought I had a good voice prior lol
@KBXband
@KBXband 2 жыл бұрын
Tbe first peek I got of Zelda 64 was in an old catalog in 97 that advertised "Zelda: Ocarnia (sic) of Time). Link had a red shirt in the ad so imagine my surprise when I got my hands on the actual game at a friends house and seeing child Link and having to collect 40 rupees to get a shield and then find a butter knife for a sword. Jarring.
@VictorHernandez-nj2lo
@VictorHernandez-nj2lo 3 жыл бұрын
Fado looks like she has black skulls on her shirt,& i assume the desk slam is if u try to buy an item u can't afford
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I can imagine the possibility of the latter. Shame it wasn't kept it. It would have looked hilarious to seem Link jump at a sudden desk slam like that
@firionkaiser8291
@firionkaiser8291 Жыл бұрын
I'm a bit late here but the reason why the first version of Link resembles his Zelda 1 but more accurately his Zelda II appearance, is because OoT started off as a remake for Zelda II AoL.
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer Жыл бұрын
Got a source for this one?
@NatsumiTakanawa
@NatsumiTakanawa 3 жыл бұрын
As always: Great content. You do an awesome job with this and you’re bringing unique content in the beta community. Thanks! :)
@MrBlakBunny
@MrBlakBunny 7 ай бұрын
i wonder if the ganondorf transformation might of been reflected in the phantom ganondorf fights. there was a rumour, when the early version game was going to use the castle as a hub, that those fights were going to gate keep parts of the tower, meaning link would probably have to fight a different version of phantom ganon each time.
@knowbare
@knowbare 3 жыл бұрын
My man just does not miss with these videos
@BobbyReborn
@BobbyReborn 3 жыл бұрын
Masterful video... lots learned here about NPCs I previously overlooked.. especially loved the insight about curviness ..
@LPkukin
@LPkukin 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for making this video! I really enjoy your Zelda OoT Beta videos!
@tourguideplays5477
@tourguideplays5477 3 жыл бұрын
14:33 he's got legs! And knows how to use them! XD
@SonicJrandSarah
@SonicJrandSarah 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, he does. But enough about him, The Obsessive Gamer was marvelous!
@joaquincastaneda6695
@joaquincastaneda6695 3 жыл бұрын
0:59 Link's look is actually based from Zelda II tho
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
and Zelda 2 Link dresses exactly like Zelda 1 Link. Only older now
@KayvonJavid
@KayvonJavid 3 жыл бұрын
4:00 you can see the trees they were cut in koriri forest from his doorway
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
Oh damn, good eye! definitely gotta mention this later.
@BrandonB4k3r
@BrandonB4k3r 3 жыл бұрын
~I just found this channel I’m a really huge Zelda Fan and Ocarina of Time was my childhood I’m 16 Now and I’m still obsessed with this game, yet I never even knew most of this stuff. ~ I usually never ever put comments and this probably will never be seen, but I really wanna say this is quality content I have been searching for forever. Seriously, don’t change anything. You’re content is fantastic, interesting to watch and not annoying like almost every other channel I find, this is of those channels that helps with my insomnia I just put the videos on and fall asleep.
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
>this probably will never be seen Definitely seen :P But seriously though, glad you are enjoying this channel and thank you!! I hope you falling asleep isn't cause my content is boring or anything LOL
@BrandonB4k3r
@BrandonB4k3r 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheObsessiveGamer No your content is not boring at all, of course I stay up and watch it too cause it’s actually fun and entertaining to watch. I just have a lot of trouble falling asleep, so sometimes I’ll put on some KZbin videos to listen to and your one of the channels I put on; I Love your videos I’m just glad your channel exists seriously keep it up, Love Ya!!! 🖤🖤🖤😁
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
@@BrandonB4k3r Thank you! I understood what you meant since I actually have similar troubles and do this sometimes too with KZbinrs I really like actually. Fallen asleep to a number of SpawnWave videos infact despite how much I like his channel
@apalouse2
@apalouse2 3 жыл бұрын
3:23 thats early Epona design looks like the horse Link ride in the cutscene and Artwork un Breath of the Wild
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe this is where the inspiration came from?
@Tekape
@Tekape 3 жыл бұрын
13:20 this might be an animation for the soldier in kakariko village too, the one animation looks like moving in front of the gate, when you don't sell him the mask he will close the gate
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
Oh very true, but I am a guessing that overall, they'd block Link more than normal at that stage
@Thevaporwaveraver
@Thevaporwaveraver 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly love these videos so much re watched them so many times thank you for all your work ❤️
@TheTruthHurts.247
@TheTruthHurts.247 2 жыл бұрын
2:40 that concept art really gives off twilight princess vibes.. especially the adult link
@Tazerboy_10
@Tazerboy_10 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting... (I saw your KZbin posts about these beta character models, but I kept getting distracted by other things...) (I can't wait to watch this video...)
@AguFungus
@AguFungus 3 жыл бұрын
Looking at Sheik's design, how do we know that the character in the beta illustration was meant to be Sheik? Yes, I see the turban and scarf, but looking at the hair color, it could be also a beta design for Impa, and Sheik's final design could be likely based on Impa's beta design.
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe? who knows. But considering the design, it would fit the name Sheik pretty well too. Shame Hyrule Historia didn't label this art like they did with the sketch art.
@MeowAbout
@MeowAbout Жыл бұрын
20:53 Ganon looks like the Zelda CD-i Ganon design. Except less silly of course.
@klausklaus
@klausklaus 3 жыл бұрын
Great content! Keep up the good work, buddy. 👍
@Kevin-jb2pv
@Kevin-jb2pv 3 жыл бұрын
IDK why the Iron Knuckle's would've had to have been _brainwashed_ Gerudo warriors. I mean, Ganondorf was the Gerudo _king._ They could just be an elite corps of soldiers or a part of his royal guard or something. Just because soldiers fight for someone doesn't mean that they are _brainwashed,_ they could just be fighting for loyalty to their people or because they were conscripted or, you know, because soldiers fight for armies all the time without really knowing or even really caring about the specific geopolitical goals their leader is chasing. Lots of soldiers just fight because it's an exciting job, because they crave adventure, because it provides a lifestyle where you don't have to worry about things like room and board, for the glory and prestige, or because they like the rigid and clearly defined structure to their lives being given to them rather than having to worry about it themselves. I'm not saying that all soldiers are heartless and only care about themselves, many of them do it out of a sense of duty or to protect their people or because they _do_ believe in the goals of their leader I'm also kind of combining historical and present day militaries in my thinking, so not all of these things apply to all people, _peoples,_ or time periods, don't @ me because your brother just got back from fighting in Afghanistan for honorable reasons and you're mad that I said that some people join the military just because they like the benefits, because there are plenty of people who join for _exactly those reasons and I've met many of them._ :P
@hri7566
@hri7566 3 жыл бұрын
I think the very first design of link (by Goddard I think) is completely separate from everything after it considering Goddard said that his OoT project was completely separate from the engine that Nintendo made
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
Well yes, but back then when I made this video that interview hadn't happened yet. I made a video later on talking about Goddard's first place actually.
@fizz576
@fizz576 3 жыл бұрын
Man I really like that beta design for the master sword I like the more practical look of it the final version in my opinion always looked to bulbous.
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
It has a more gritty look to it at that no doubt. If the game looked a bit grittier overall too, I think this would perfectly fit in
@Soulintent95
@Soulintent95 3 жыл бұрын
I wish they kept either the 2nd or 3rd beta design of link. The final design was great, but its also kind of plain looking. And the older shields were way better. To be honest, the master sword ended up being perfect but i kinda liked how it used to be a bigger kokiri sword.
@PrimeStarStudios
@PrimeStarStudios 3 жыл бұрын
I really love your videos, man!
@TarkiTark
@TarkiTark 3 жыл бұрын
i’ve been waiting for a min 😫
@PrimevalDemon
@PrimevalDemon 3 жыл бұрын
YEAA the grog part is the best. Always was super in love with his mohawk so super cool to know that it is from so early @ I love the hyrule market npcs. Very charming. Also mamu says her name in game if I remember??for the dogs? Anyway Is there a link or site to find the concept art/ sketches you show off?? Love n64 era zelda art!
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
Oh does Mamu say it? I should try talking wit her next time I play it. If you want to find the concept art/sketches look up Hyrule Historia, which is where those all are from actually
@m0002856
@m0002856 3 жыл бұрын
Yoooo the partial transformation Ganon looks so cool. O.O
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed! Wish we could have gotten it
@SpicyWah
@SpicyWah 3 жыл бұрын
This is the first video I've seen on your channel and your content seems very promising. Its always fascinating to see such history behind classic games
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it and I got plenty more planned too
@stephanos6128
@stephanos6128 3 жыл бұрын
now that I think about it, if the Kokiri WERE to have adult Models, maybe some of the Market Town and Kakariko NPCs could have be repurposed to become townsfolk? We saw so far at this point townsfolk were just copy paste, so when they scrapped the Adult Kokiri they repurposed the designs? My only evidence to the theory would be the Kokiri Shopkeeper and the Bazaar owner having literally the same face shape
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting theory. Very possible this happened too. Low poly enough for it lol
@Bball51307
@Bball51307 3 жыл бұрын
Let’s go it’s finally out after much anticipation 😁
@enricopucci7402
@enricopucci7402 3 жыл бұрын
Let's go. This is amazing why did they get removed
@GeorgeZimmermen
@GeorgeZimmermen 3 жыл бұрын
Time, resources, hardware limitations, unnecessary content. Etc. happens all the time
@enricopucci7402
@enricopucci7402 3 жыл бұрын
Ohh
@SincerelyVince
@SincerelyVince Жыл бұрын
14:52 That's not the beta model for the blue dress lady. It's the model for the lady standing near the stove in the clip at 14:59
@BetoZayasGaoking
@BetoZayasGaoking 3 жыл бұрын
Omg Beta young Zelda ears ware HUGE 😂
@poisonmist13
@poisonmist13 3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad that they didn’t keep the Ganon transition, and just used Ganon as a temporary form. Ganondorf is way scarier than Ganon to me. Ganon is a beast, more animal than man. But Ganon is a man that knows exactly what he’s doing, the malicious intent glowing from his eyes like a fire. A beast might harm you for no reason, a man will harm you for his reason.
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
But what is the exact reason for not wanting the transitional state between them?
@poisonmist13
@poisonmist13 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheObsessiveGamer That transition would imply that Ganondorf wouldn’t come back. He’d be permanently transformed into a beast, and we wouldn’t see his human form in Wind Waker. Then we wouldn’t see that amazing ending. Ganondorf >Ganon
@elio7610
@elio7610 Жыл бұрын
I like the idea of the gradual transformation because it just makes more sense, in a way. It is just somewhat random for Ganondorf to suddenly tranform after nearly dying and the inability to change back would better explain why Ganon is not human in the previous games. Ganondorf practically is just a monster in later games, so may as well have looked like one too.
@keithtorgersen9664
@keithtorgersen9664 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the old man with just a hood and a face had some connection with the poe collector?
@emo-nordegraf
@emo-nordegraf 2 жыл бұрын
I hope that if ever oot got a remake on the switch they would show off some of this beta content officially, maybe as a reward for completing the game. they wouldnt have to make it playable or anything (it wouldn’t make sense anyways) but it would be cool to have some more pictures or a model viewer for the characters or something, this is a pretty smart idea since people really do like the topic of the ocarina of time beta This is most definitely not going to happen, knowing nintendo. lol
@RoseBleueDuRosierSec
@RoseBleueDuRosierSec 3 жыл бұрын
The outfit of beta Mamamu Yan is similar to Anju's :o
@Mari_Izu
@Mari_Izu 3 жыл бұрын
It's probably not the beta Mamamu Yan, but a early version of a villager from Kakariko (the one that owns the house Talon sleeps in during the adult era).
@hanino6453
@hanino6453 3 жыл бұрын
Great video my friend. Thank you!
@mikeskis9657
@mikeskis9657 3 жыл бұрын
I liked links -2nd- draft design , well at least the facial design with brown(er) hair. I remember watching a trailer of that design as a kid and the BG music was the lightworld dungeon theme. Refining that design vs the final would’ve been cool but I’m definitely not saying I didn’t like what we ultimately got. I even drew up a concept art based on that design.
@mikeskis9657
@mikeskis9657 3 жыл бұрын
Ps. Antagonist Online was where I got my news. Anyone else remember that?
@JeffIndigo
@JeffIndigo 3 жыл бұрын
Good job compiling.great work
@Haganeren
@Haganeren 2 жыл бұрын
Errr, it's the other way around in 8:33... Nintendo didn't discard that design because it was lifeless, they never animated her because they were dissatisfied with it for other reason...
@aceoyame2619
@aceoyame2619 3 жыл бұрын
That concept sketch art of the “in between Gabon” looks a lot like phantom Ganondorf. Possible they reused the asset as a boss?
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
The head does look alot like that sketch, so it wouldn't surprise me if it was at least a partially complete midstage Ganon
@m0002856
@m0002856 3 жыл бұрын
Really thought you were going to point something else out when you said Mido’s most obvious feature was his face. I didn’t even notice the face, I was just wondering why his model was so… excited. Aren’t they too young for that? ._. Glad that got changed before release.
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
Old beta models for you... glad they caught that early enough lol
@mchevre
@mchevre 2 жыл бұрын
lmao I was also expecting a reference to that
@geckoo9190
@geckoo9190 Жыл бұрын
12:23 Isn't that?, you know, the princess?, ha ha ha, I mean one of those characters may have inspired the creepypasta.
@bigfenix8272
@bigfenix8272 3 жыл бұрын
21:14 the earlier art makes Ganondorf kinda resemble Agnahim the wizard from lttp
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe the idea was originally to them more linked than intended?
@bigfenix8272
@bigfenix8272 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheObsessiveGamer I think so. Ganon states right before the final battle in lttp that Agahnim is his alter ego. I think, but not 100% sure, that Hyrule Historia has since established the 2 being seperate entities; however, the detailed lore of HH didn't exist in the 90s. Perhaps long before that book was released, when the overall "lore" of the series was still mostly an afterthought, they considered taking the full leap of making Agahnim into Ganon's original human form. For whatever reason, at some point they decided to ditch the Agahnim form altogether from the series; maybe that decision didn't come until development of OoT was fully underway. I'm thinking this because of the artwork's existence and, presumably, it was drawn up after Agahnim's only other appearance in the series, the bridge game between these two titles, Link's Awakening. (Albeit only in nightmare form, same as Ganon's pig form.) It's also worth noting the Zelda cartoon (while non-canon) depicted Ganon as a caped wizard, so maybe Nintendo was building up to a full character concept that was ultimately scrapped or later repurposed into Vaati, Astor, etc. 🤷‍♀️
@saladasss2092
@saladasss2092 3 жыл бұрын
Thank God they didn't use the concept art link!
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
The high geared Link we got is always the best imo
@redneon06
@redneon06 3 жыл бұрын
Well this was sure interesting and thanks.
@SopaDoEspaco
@SopaDoEspaco 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool, i love your videos
@pedroaugustomoura8968
@pedroaugustomoura8968 Жыл бұрын
17:33 I think it's actually Ruto
@DrRamalamadingdong
@DrRamalamadingdong 3 жыл бұрын
very good and interesting Video! Thx.
@BenWillock
@BenWillock 3 жыл бұрын
The thing about Mamamu Yan's hairstyle change is actually a common misconception. What's actually going on is that in the Beta, her hair is actually stuck in a t-pose.
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
Well that is very weird then as it would mean her hair actually is rigged to move...
@BenWillock
@BenWillock 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheObsessiveGamer Got eem 😁
@jonathanplooij3666
@jonathanplooij3666 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for the video
@Swiftbow
@Swiftbow 3 жыл бұрын
The Kokiri DON'T age into adults. Link did because he's not a Kokiri. The game made it pretty clear that he was a Hylian raised by the Kokiri after his parents were killed in a war. (You don't learn this until a little way through the game.) Maybe I misunderstood the video? I know the Miyamoto quote was probably from an earlier rendition of the game.
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
I meant during that stage of development that the Kokiri can become adults according to Miyamotos interview, not the final game
@Swiftbow
@Swiftbow 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheObsessiveGamer Ah, okay. Sorry for misunderstanding! Good video :)
@catriamflockentanz
@catriamflockentanz 3 жыл бұрын
3:32 No words about how the Fairy, likely Navi, is NOT just a ball of light? 7:23 Okay, took a while, but it was acknowledged eventually. 11:02 Whoa, the right-hand design is quite big and ripped. Looks like the Oracle of Seasons/Ages Iteration of Impa after a year of rigorously working out... 14:49 With a beard that bushy he would've been more memorable. The lower part of him is terrifying though. 15:40 That may be just me but he looks like a ghost to me... With this deformed white body and just the head clearly defined. 19:43 Speaking of changes to OoT 3D and Nabooru at that: They changed her name from "Nabooru"(N64 and ports) to "Naboru"(3DS) in the german version of the game for whatever reason. Back to the joke I wanted to make originally: Beta Chara Designs The Good (Fado & The Ninja(I somehow doubt it was Sheik on the poster)), the Bad(the jumbled old man the bearded monstrosity from 14:49 & the Ugly(Zora Concept Art and the O-faced Kokiri).
@SparkyRaichu
@SparkyRaichu 2 жыл бұрын
"Why purple?" I'm guessing so you know it was a collectable poe?
@dstinnettmusic
@dstinnettmusic 3 жыл бұрын
Eh, I disagree with the idea that there was an intent to make all the Iron Knuckles into Gerudo. I think Naboru was the base, with her having a custom/altered model that exists inside the one you fight that actually is her. I think the reason for this is: They would need to have a moment where they reveal that the boss you just fought actually is a friend, so you get the reveal that shows a model of Naboru we would recognize but possibly using less memory than the standard model, and then the “fall out” animation and the transition to the standard game model. At some point later they decide to use this enemy elsewhere, but just copy-pasted the already designed and implemented Iron Knuckle. I just don’t agree that the Iron Knuckles look “feminine” and while I could see Gerudo joining Ganondorf, him being basically their King, I don’t think the sleek and nimble warriors would then be put in giant clunky armor. It just makes more sense from a game design and story design perspective for it to be a quirk of designing games in the early-3D era rather than some secret story element.
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
The model of the Gerudo in the Iron Knuckle is completely different from Nabooru's though. Not even remotely resembling her. If they simply wanted to save on polygons, they could have went with a lowpoly model of her, but they didn't do that. This is why it is possibly a concept that was cut. As well, it is clearly very feminine considering the obvious chest and figure that is seen once they loose their armour.
@dstinnettmusic
@dstinnettmusic 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheObsessiveGamer I mean, every adult character except the Bazaar owner and Talon, and the dog lady have the same slender waste, wide hips, big chest thing going on. I think it is just a consequence of sticking polygons together. Link especially has that look.
@wofuljac
@wofuljac 3 жыл бұрын
The red face girl looks like she survived a fatality from Mortal Kombat lol.
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
The cruelty of stage 1s development
@SgtxAnus
@SgtxAnus 2 жыл бұрын
is there a mod trying to remake this game or no i thought i saw that online a while back
@Barveth
@Barveth Жыл бұрын
17:20 "I saw things"
@sus-gibble4721
@sus-gibble4721 3 жыл бұрын
Is it true that there is other tunics link could have obtained
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
I keep hearing that there are supposedly 2 cut tunics (gold and white) simply cause one can access them via gameshark, but I haven't seen anything credible to point that it was an intentional beta left over and not just GameShark changing the colour of the tunic.
@ultimageek
@ultimageek 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, Nintendo could use the scrapped elements of Ocarina of Time and give us what it was supposed to be but give it a different title
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
Technically that's what Twilight Princess was
@ultimageek
@ultimageek 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheObsessiveGamer was it really? That’s actually really kind of cool
@8randomprettysecret8
@8randomprettysecret8 3 жыл бұрын
golden findings
@Tyfen64
@Tyfen64 3 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@makaihana975
@makaihana975 3 жыл бұрын
Does the Upside down Ganon concept art remind you of the Demon King tapestry art from the intro of Skyward Sword?
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
Oh interesting. Maybe an influence?
@makaihana975
@makaihana975 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheObsessiveGamer perhaps :) Nintendo is known for repurposing beta content as you mentioned in your other videos. The fact that beta ocarina of time elements were scattered across Master Quest, Majora's Mask and even influencing games like Wind Waker and Twilight Princess.
@literallywhy6162
@literallywhy6162 3 жыл бұрын
Mamamu Yan’s beta skirt texture looks like Anju’s. Maybe they were meant to be related, or it was just reused?
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
Would be neat lore if she was Anju's mother the whole time
@FalconOfStorms
@FalconOfStorms Жыл бұрын
14:41 "you will live to see man-made horrors beyond your comprehension" - Nikola Tesla
@187onaPigeon
@187onaPigeon 3 жыл бұрын
Is it me or did the animation at 7:46 look smoother?
@erinpotts2179
@erinpotts2179 2 жыл бұрын
RPG characters is hero or villain I fine!
@Qzrzvn
@Qzrzvn 3 жыл бұрын
Hype in the chat let's go!!!!
@matthewwisdom9933
@matthewwisdom9933 2 жыл бұрын
Was the ninja lady impa was originally going to be shik and that light blue hair mystery person probably that light blue hair two versions lady impa and that blue hair
@grafvinestarry
@grafvinestarry 7 ай бұрын
19:04 but why are there Germanname called Eisenprinz and not like Eisenvalküre or Eisenprincess? That's what I always ask since I see there true irontorso in OoT.... 21:25 remebers me on Agahims Design from A Link to the Past
@darknessninja5367
@darknessninja5367 3 жыл бұрын
15:18 his face reminds me of Majin sonic
@TheObsessiveGamer
@TheObsessiveGamer 3 жыл бұрын
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