THE FIRST Production Picatinny Railed 1911 - Springfield Armory Full Rail TRP Operator

No I am not an expert nor do I claim to be one. Just a regular Joe giving my honest feedback. @SpringfieldArmoryInc
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[@af22raptor23503]

FYI: Springfield release three Versions of the Full Rail Operator back in the 2001-05/06ish TRP Bull Barrel Adjustable Nights Sights and Checkered Front Strap and MSH w/Magwell. Loaded bushing barrel Night Sights Novak 600-750 pistols made, MIL-SPEC Operator was a Mil-Spec Pistol features with a Full Rail they are VERY RARE less than 350 pistols were made. The Full Rail TRP Operator are basically Semi-Custom pistols that the Custom Shop used to make because the Frames were originally reserved for some Military and LEO unit Special Purchase Orders. I have been trying to get a Full Rail Operator with the sand paper grips like yours since 2005 but things have happen where other weapons were purchased instead and the fact that Springfield Custom Shop when it was Open Only Made the Full Rail TRP once every 18-30 months with only producing about 50-100 pistols for the commercial market and Waiting list that have been over 4-6 years in backorders.

[@JoeFromTheAfternoon]

Wow great info!! Wish I knew these details before making the video.

[@af22raptor23503]

@@JoeFromTheAfternoon I had a chance of getting a Loaded Full Rail Springfield while I was in the Navy stationed in VA but I wanted the TRP model so I did not jump at it looking back it was a MAJOR Mistake on my part. In all my years of serving as Range Officer and Instructor both in the Military and as a Civilian I have ONLY seen ONE Mil-Spec Full Rail Springfield and that was also in VA back around 2008-09 and when I saw it I asked the owner if I could see it and he was very nice and even allowed me to shoot it. The Mil-Spec FR was NOT what I was expecting since the Short Mil-Spec Trigger had been Tuned and the Barrel/Slide and Slide/Frame was Extremely Well Done and tight. The gentleman told me that he had owned the pistol for about 4 years and had purchased it Brand New in Ohio his home state and he had NOT DONE ANY work to the pistol other than lube it and put about 3k rounds in the 4 year period. One thing that you have to remember is that during this Time Springfield was Getting their Frames and Slides from Imbel in Brazil and about 50-60% of the pistols that Springfield was selling were completely made in Brazil and they had a Serial Number that started with N but the 1911 that were done in the USA which meant that more than 50% of the work to assemble the weapon was done in Illinois had a NM Serial Number. All the Railed pistols were done in the USA and since many of them were being Purchased by Elite Military Units like USMC MEU-SOC on individual command Purchase Order basis, US Navy Seal Chris Kyle carried a SA TRP Full Rail that was damaged by shrapnel and was sent back to Springfield for repairs but Kyle switched to a Sig P220 45acp for the rest of his combat tour. The Full Rail Springfield from the early 2000s to 2012/13 always got Extremely well build pistols because the Custom Shop Techs/Pistolsmiths that build them knew that the majority of them were going to War because you can take a Full Rail pistol and Shove it into someone's Chest and pull the Trigger without having the pistol going out of battery and I was told this by an East Coast MEU-SOC Gunnery Sergeant that by 2013 had over 8 Combat Tours in both Iraq, Afghanistan plus a few other places in Africa that he could not go into with me because they were hunting bad guys. I love Railed 1911 and I am lucky enough to own SIX which are comprised of 5 SIGs TacOps 5 inch and 4.25 plus I took a leap of faith and tried one of the Tisas Raiders and I was EXTREMELY Impressed how well the Turkish 1911 manufactures are but I still want to get the Springfield Full Rail specially one that was build in the 2003-2009 which are the years I served in the US Navy.

[@earthlyng_official4599]

Ahh so this is an older gun. I saw this and was like there’s so many 1911s with rails?

[@af22raptor23503]

@@earthlyng_official4599 Like the video said this is the first factory railed frame 1911 pistol and the configuration with the Sandpaper Grips is the Original Setup that came out back in 2001ish maybe 2002, but the pistols have always been a ROYAL PAIN to get because Everyone that Loves Modern 1911s wanted one and waiting lists have been OUTRAGESTLY LONG! I own a small custom firearms shop and have a FFL for the past 10 years and I am still in the middle of the waiting list to get one and that is from three different distributors. I saw one at a local gun shop that I normally go shoot with friends about once a month and they had a used one that was maybe 80-85% Condition it looked like the owner left it on the roof of the car and the pistol feel onto a gravel road or something and the shop was asking 2900 dollars that was this past summer. I know the pistol is a Unicorn but that price is for a TRP with all the papers and a box with all the mags and they were selling it with two mags and no box and some fugly grips and the Night Sights were very weak! It would take about 300-500 to get all the scratches polished out and then have the pistol re-Duracoat or just Cerakote it plus about 200 for the sights and a TRP is not worth that much a PRO maybe but NOT a TRP!

[@aphantasiagreyman8445]

​@@af22raptor23503 I've been seeing them pop up from time to time both new and used lately in CA. Since it is on our roster it seems we get the majority of the allocation. We just don't get any of the new stuff.

[@IrradiatedLimes]

I’ve always liked the TRP line. Even after getting my Springfield Professional, I still wanted a TRP badly. Ended up finding a 10mm one and it’s slowly becoming my favorite 1911

[@SoCalMikey]

Thank you for the detailed reviews on the TRP Full Rail. I will have one this week and really excited to practice with it. I ordered the same light as well.

[@b.c.731]

The 1911 is the best in my opinion. The history and everything make the 1911 great. Great video

[@mrflynn510]

Aye

[@Satori630]

I've had my eye on one of these for a long time. I hope to get one in the near future. Another great gun. Another great video. Thank you.

[@Citizen2ACitizenLLC]

very nice.....Glad you were able to get it back in your collection.

[@zboyjason]

Picked on one a few weeks ago and I'm in love with it

[@butchstone4631]

Full rail 1911s are just badass!!!!!

[@kingjehukhan8541]

The TRP is on my next 1911 wish list, great video!

[@mrflynn510]

The Full Rail and the Professional Custom Rail are on my "will own" list.

[@soylentgreen7074]

The custom shop is open again. They actually have my springfield milspec slide now. It’s being cut for TRP style sights. I am ‘making’ an early delta inspired gun. Od green frame I duracoated, pachmayr wrap around grip, barsto barrel and bushing, etc.

[@JoeFromTheAfternoon]

Ahhhh crap. I hate putting out bad info. Last I checked (just a few months ago) they were closed

[@soylentgreen7074]

@@JoeFromTheAfternooni was told that also. I called and asked and the woman was like give me your email and I’ll send out the work list and an RMA number and shipping label. Sounds like they are only working on Springfield guns though because of workload. Same as wilson combat now. Nighthawk I know still takes basically any brand 1911. They did my railed colt ccu 45 earlier this year. As for the professional model it’s still on their website. But so are other discontinued products. Maybe they paused production on stuff during covid. No idea.

[@JoeFromTheAfternoon]

@@soylentgreen7074I just called SA and the rep said the custom shop is still closed. But if the repair shop is working on something for RMA…they consider certain jobs. 🤷‍♂️. Strange. SA has always been confusing with the CS stuff haha

[@soylentgreen7074]

@@JoeFromTheAfternoonthat is odd. Because the sheet they sent says custom shop on it lol. And they wonder why we are all confused.

[@JoeFromTheAfternoon]

@@soylentgreen7074😂😂. Their entire weapon line history is confusing

[@alaslawi]

Full dust over 1911/2011s look so much cleaner n sexier than the regular old 1911 cut.

[@antoniogomez1911]

Great vids. Been wanting this one for ever but in Cali it’s harder to find

[@same.0g760]

Definitely One Of My Favs…These Things Are Still Sought After Til’ This Day. Springfield Actually Dropped A Limited Batch Of Full Rails Last Year. So If Some Still Have A Chance, If Not You Always Have Gun Broker and Inflation Lol Good Stuff Bro 💪😎

[@StanleyBurks]

Informative review. Nicely done.

[@blaiseeltine9516]

hi Joe. watching before noon. hope that's ok.

[@JoeFromTheAfternoon]

😂

[@rdrgear]

Appreciate the shout out. Hit me up. For a range day

[@rifles_up2263]

This is THE 1911 to have

[@TheLegoJoker]

You forgot to tell us to “like, share, and subscribe.” I think it’s a rule on KZbin since every freaking channel says it. 😂🤣

[@JoeFromTheAfternoon]

😅😅. I’m going to start saying “unsubscribe. Don’t follow me”

[@TheLegoJoker]

@@JoeFromTheAfternoon😂

[@markjury6633]

Very informative video.

[@JuliusAntonLising]

Beautiful gun brother. I have the same set Up. Though I only run, Wilson combat and vickers tactical mags

[@buddysumner4022]

No body does production 1911 like Springfield in my opinion, I like the Dan Wesson and own a few but to me the Springfield is second to none

[@aphantasiagreyman8445]

Yay CA roster....not. Nothing like buying 20 year old gun designs for MSRP+. I have replaced the ILS system in my older TRP full rail and you are correct, all of the guts of the MSH need to be replaced. Springfield is very good about allowing you to order the replacement parts. We (CA) recently received and allocation of all Springfield 1911s including the TRP models at many different LGS. Any Springfield 1911 has been impossible to get for the last 4 years. The full rails always sell out first but there are probably a few floating around. Thanks for the video. Probably the most complete video I have seen on this line of 1911s.

[@KeanonGilliamSlang369]

I have the same TRP. Springfield Armory just announced the new TRP.

[@boomee78]

Appreciate this i really at some point want to get one of thos guns and being a robocop fan it dosent bother me lol. I shoot glocks and walther pistols mostly

[@BottomLineBassin2]

There are basically 2 pistols that lift my skirt: the Springfield TRP, and the USP45.

[@jbeazy7088]

I FINALLY GOT MINES THIS WEEK AFTER 10 MONTHS OF WAITING. I'M REPLACING THE GUIDE ROD N GRIPS

[@jessitaylor4170]

Any Springfield 1911 is way better than any Turkish made 1911.

[@blaiseeltine9516]

great vids, thanks. i appreciate the no bs approach.. is there anyway you could add some awful screechy electronic guitar riffs at the start so I could forward them? also maybe some LARPing?

[@JoeFromTheAfternoon]

😂

[@speedyx8988]

Can you post the link for the trigger you installed? I have the same pistol and I LOVE IT!!!

[@madmike4128]

Hard to choose between the full rail or the fde concealed carry model both are very good looking pistols

[@harleyhohani4243]

There is also the Long Beach Operator. Made for the LBPD.

[@JoeFromTheAfternoon]

That's not a full rail operator. Hence the reason why it was not listed in this video.

[@thumperjdm]

Title: "THE FIRST Railed 1911 produced." My 15-yr-old Kimber 1911 TLE RL II Stainless: "Am I a joke to you?"

[@JoeFromTheAfternoon]

Haha. Sorry Kimber….Your 15 year old Kimber wasn’t the first railed 1911 produced.

[@raraku1250]

recommnedaton on holster light bearing?

[@hateca1]

The ILS was not offered by Springfield to get onto the roster in Commiefornia. This little PITA was introduced long before that. I have two TRP Full Rail version, First Gen USA and a CA approved version and it's little baby brother the Champion and they all have this lock. This pistol was first made outside of the USA When they started making this First Gen US pistol this little PITA lock showed up. Has absolutely nothing to do with Commiefornia. The only difference between the two Roster and non Roster pistols is they submitted one to Commiefornia for testing nothing more. The ILS was there when it was tested and it must stay on the pistol if they want to keep selling them in Commifornia. Springfield has dropped the ILS for everyone else. US versions had these "safety" features long before they submitted the pistol to CA. Springfield only carries the CA model number now because if they don't it would fall off the list and be unavailable again to those behind the iron curtain.

[@rimfirejunkie7427]

Kimber TLE debuted in 2001.

[@JoeFromTheAfternoon]

TLE isn’t the railed model. The TLE/RL is their railed model. Springfield was the first. This is factual and easily proven

[@VraelFreorhe]

I don't understand what Springfield stopped producing this baby.

[@JoeFromTheAfternoon]

It’s still being produced

[@VraelFreorhe]

@@JoeFromTheAfternoon I can't buy it in my country anymore unfortunately

[@WildManActual]

I like RDR Gear, but he got things wrong in his video.

[@JoeFromTheAfternoon]

Fair enough. Just curious what parts did he get wrong?

[@WildManActual]

@@JoeFromTheAfternoon Off the top of my head, that the full rail operator was long discontinued and next to impossible to find, and that (off topic) the MAC (Tisas) JSOC was the brainchild of Military Arms Channel. I'd have to go back and rewatch the video but there were other things he said about the Operator that had me shaking my head. I appreciate his passion and content and have immense respect for what he's done in the Safariland holster sphere, but some of his "facts" were off base in that video.

[@JoeFromTheAfternoon]

Respectable feedback for sure. I’ll have to go back and rewatch as well. I do know they are remaking this gun though. I saw one at my local Scheels the other day brand spanking new.

[@seanlowry5865]

That's weird cause I have a RIA 1911 double stack that has a full rail and I've had it for about 4 years now. And goes bang Everytime I pull the trigger. Also have the same pistol chambered in 10mm

[@JoeFromTheAfternoon]

What’s weird?

[@andrewgates8158]

He meant the first not the only.

[@user-lp4ic8ru1h]

If I didn’t see this dudes, hands I’d swear he was a Caucasian

[@JoeFromTheAfternoon]

That’s called unconscious bias 😂

[@earthlyng_official4599]

There’s a bunch of 1911s with rails. So I’m not understanding what’s making this special.

[@JoeFromTheAfternoon]

It’s the history that’s being taught. Thats all.

[@SnD340]

Why would you ever need a full rail if a x300 (biggest best selling light) fits perfectly.

[@JoeFromTheAfternoon]

Like I said in the video….the gun was designed before the x300 even existed. They had no idea how small the lights (compared to lights at the time) would be eventually. No one needs a full rail now. It’s just how the model is made. And since it’s on the CA roster, changing it would mess a lot of things up.