The first Razer Wireless Xbox Controller

[@RedEyeBuckeye]

Willing to bet these last longer than any Elite controller.

[@loitersquadX]

I love the elite. But yeah. The elite sucks. Day 1 on 4 controllers i had SLIGHT but noticable delay and drift. I bought a gamesir for 30 bucks and its better. Xbox needs to step up ASAP.

[@LouSassol69er]

If my current elite fails, may consider getting this

[@pandamonium0_042]

I had my elite for years before fail, but I see everyone saying things like this. Maybe I was just lucky lol

[@LouSassol69er]

@@pandamonium0_042 it's mainly the bumpers that fail. They're incredibly weak. Depending what games you play they can fail quicker, for example Gears of War, RB being reload will see that bumper fail much sooner. I remap games like those bumper controls to the upper back paddles to extend the integrity of those bumpers.

[@loitersquadX]

@@LouSassol69er yeah, but elite feels so fuckin solid

[@xKillZone99]

love razer controllers but that $200 tag is insane especially when you have gamesir controllers for under $50 that out work almost any xbox controller

[@anonapache]

These gamesir controllers have way less features.

[@xKillZone99]

@@anonapache technically they have more

[@LatinoHeat1986]

​@@anonapacheI have both and gamesir controllers definitely have more features

[@fwabble]

The price is comedic - for what it offers. Other brands are hammering it

[@K_ZloX]

The wolverine v3 tournament esition better than all gamesir controllers.

[@nazarethproductions7095]

Wolverine v3 tournament is $99 with same specs/features just not wireless. Most definitely grabbing one ☝️ $199 for the V3 Pro isn’t worth it IMO but to each their own

[@RayzaNC]

100 extra for wireless is ridiculous but i'd need wireless. If it was like 30 more it would be fine.

[@An_Enraged_Pig]

When is it available?

[@rogerm4a1]

I can agree to that. I bought the Wolverine Ultimate (the original) and it's what I'm rolling with for now. I'm a sucker for controllers so I might buy this,

[@jaimzmyers3699]

I just ordered the tournament. My dog broke my right thumb stick on my gamesir g7. I fixed it with a staple, but it kinda janky, but it'll work until the new one comes.

[@jaimzmyers3699]

​@An_Enraged_Pig now the one in the video is still pre-order, but the tournament can be bought from razer rn

[@nickglover]

The "wired 1000 Hz yay!" comes from the fact that official Xbox controllers have been stuck at 125 Hz for some time now. Most other controllers are better than that, but still usually lower than 1000 Hz, especially wireless.

[@kenzilbaptiste2519]

the wired 1000 hz comes from them adding 1000hz .. and the controller can be used on PC thats it

[@nazarethproductions7095]

Wolverine has 250hz , a little better but prefer at least 500hz

[@givenchycode8439]

​@@nazarethproductions7095I've heard xbox is limited to 250hz polling rate

[@flexmcgee8429]

I have both versions of the wired Wolverine controllers for the Xbox and they have held up to years of PUBG. Original has slight drift but the V2 doesn't. I always map the L3 and R3 inputs to the bottom triggers so I don't have to push in the sticks.

[@robsauceda4087]

The v2 was really good, I’m excited for this 1 even tho it’s expensive. I’m gonna be selling some old gear to get this

[@crypticcelt3618]

Hey Techne. Are the sticks Hall effect? I only use hall effect now and once you do you will never go back. The precision is night and day. If this controller is hall effect its 100% a buy for me

[@IStratz]

They are thankfully

[@IIlicit]

they literally cant use magnetic thumbsticks anymore. the V2 had it, but in case you forgot the modules are Hall Effect. the magnet on the thumbstick top would break the modules functionality below. you see the same issue with controllers that have both hall effect sticks and triggers. whenever the trigger is fully depressed the thumbstick next to it starts to cut out or not function properly.

[@its.skamara-sp]

This is evacuation what I'm worried about. Especially for the wireless version

[@IIlicit]

@@its.skamara-sp this isnt an issue on the wolverine v3. it doesnt have hall effect triggers. just normal and a physical mouse button that slides in and out

[@its.skamara-sp]

@@IIlicit hmm is the original issue with the triggers and bumpers messing with eachother fixed?

[@IIlicit]

@@its.skamara-sp the wolverine never had that issue

[@its.skamara-sp]

@@IIlicit Wym? The wolverine V2 has issues with the the plastic from the triggers interfering with bumpers being able to be pressed. It was an issue with every controller

[@WickdSeek]

I feel like you will appreciate the Flydigi Vader 4 pro

[@Drockzoids]

Agreed, I was mind blown by the Flydigi Apex 4, never used the Vader, there isn't a comparison, and I've had lots of them including razer, turtle beach, elite, elite v2, various scuf's (ewe 100%), and a battle beaver (playstation style)..

[@wilazn]

I love my V4P. Literally the best pro controller out so far.

[@Buffer0verflow]

Love LOVE LOVE the Vader 4 Pro

[@stevenluu7508]

@@DrockzoidsWhat Xbox converter do you use?

[@theexpatgunner]

Agreed I got mine this week and I think its at least as good as and in some areas better than my Scuf Envision Pro. Certainly insane value and features for PC.

[@clawson32104]

Hopefully they release a PS5 compatible version shortly. I hate the rear buttons on the older Razer pro controllers and like these better. Actually my favorite was their now discontinued Raiju Tournament Edition. That was perfect IMO.

[@dionwest7880]

It’s called the v2 pro

[@fourtyxx7306]

Waiting for the tournament edition, wired version for $100 will all the same features

[@DannyNilsson]

as an Xbox Controller expert, you should know that the robber on the Xbox elite has issue with the edges and clue that gives up over time. and maybe why razor didnt add it to the front

[@Nitenite3]

You’re one of the best tech reviewers, very thorough! And thank you for sound test

[@heyguyslolGAMING]

Glad to see they went w/ Hall effect sticks. It's boggling that some companies are still not doing this as the norm. I hope Razer will consider making a Pay$tation version as I do like having the touch pad and gyro motion control support.

[@Medsas]

the Wolverine Ultimate is still one of my fav controller, I might upgrade once it breaks but it's still going strong after 5 years 😂

[@imliterallyspace4530]

been saying for years that controllers need to stray away from membrane buttons and spring loaded joy sticks. this controller looks amazing. will be buying one to see its potential

[@garbarcgaming9648]

it’s not mention on the video but you can two finger grip the Razer better than normal controllers. Maybe it doesn’t feel as good on a three finger grip.

[@uwemu-hs9bf]

Hello and best regards from Germany. I have been using the controller with cable on a Windows 11 PC since yesterday and have a very good impression of this device. All the controls make a very high-quality impression and I personally think the controller is the best of its kind. Of course, I have only been able to test a limited number of other products myself.

[@MagicSnapO]

One problem i'm noticing with the V3 pro is that the thumbstick mechanism wears out as its plastic. Your stick caps will wobble over time. I had mine for a week and have noticed this already. It's really annoying.

[@Inferno77665]

How are the haptics? Are they tight, similar to an iPhone, or loose more similar to the standard Xbox controller?

[@brandonsimms3268]

They couldn't use magnets for the removeable thumb sticks because hall effect sticks use magnets for movement. But they definitely could have used the default stick connector like scuff does.

[@doughybaby]

I have had the Wolverine V2 for a few years now & been serving me well. Stayed away from the Chroma version because I hated the extra button placement and felt I didn't need them, although I've come to realize I would totally use them if they were inset on the grips like this. Am a claw grip player and I very heavily use the M1 & M2 extra bumpers up top, curious to see how I change my hold with the extra 4 on the back. Hall effect sensors plus all of those extra customization options on the rear PLUS WIRELESS are the cherries on top, this looks like the perfect Xbox controller at least for me. Thanks for showing the software, none of the other reviews I've seen had done that and that really sealed the deal to see how much depth there is versus the basic V2 (that can't even adjust deadzone!) A little disappointed about the lack of that rubber grip coming all the way around that's going to feel like a downgrade but in all other facets seems like the controller is a proper upgrade to the excellent V2!

[@Mmachine88]

The V3 reminds me a lot of the xbox 360 controllers with the more roundedness this has. Kinda like a "what if" scenario if they had a 360 elite controller made

[@akbolling53]

try using all 4 fingers, index on top trigger, middle finger on bottom trigger . frees up you r pinky and other finger to all sit on a button comfortably and more user friendly . just a suggestion

[@christwarrior8]

The thumbsticks on the tournament edition are not removable. I just sent it back due to that reason. I like the raised thumbstick on the right.

[@Rustydude2030]

oh man, those back buttons look really good. i;ve been waiting for someone to do back buttons/paddles that are similar to the elite series2, bc those are the best IMO

[@scottandroni365]

My only negative thing is you can't change profiles on the controller. You have to go to the app.

[@Tinyboyyy]

What's the polling rate for PC? Edit: its 1000 using the cable

[@zensaiy]

xbox and PC wireless its 250Hz

[@RealTroyE23]

@@zensaiy And what about using the cable on Xbox?

[@zensaiy]

@@RealTroyE23 no difference, 1000Hz is only supported on PC

[@daltonburroughs3811]

Had Scuf Instinct Pro for years and play often and never had any problems. Until other controllers get the same mouse click triggers and have 4 paddles I won't switch. And dang, this one has it....I do love my scuf and hope it last for years to come

[@Ironz._.]

Just ordered the scuf a few days ago, only reason I got it because razer didn't make a wireless (or I didn't know at the time) and the elite controller always breaks in under a year. Would you say the scuf is still worth it though?

[@daltonburroughs3811]

@Ironz._. I love my scuf and would definitely still recommend it. Not sure how much I would like the back buttons on this Razer but I really like the ones on my scuf. I use all 4 in every game I play from FPS games to Elden Ring. Another pro is the removable batteries. I know this is a con to some people but I can always swap rechargeable packs so I never have to use a wire to charge but even if I ran out of batteries I could play wired too.

[@Ironz._.]

@daltonburroughs3811 thankyou for the response and info!

[@stevea1089]

I’ve gone through three of them. It will not last.

[@doctorzee1809]

how does this compare to the vader 4 pro. i would love to see the comparison as a pc player

[@chanceedmonds]

By far the best control for the money. Those extra two buttons on the top are really a game changer.c

[@chanceedmonds]

The D pad is also one of the best I've every used. He glosses over it and makes it sound like a negative.

[@BotThot]

I wonder if the reason for the ball and detention system on the razer thumb sticks is due to the Hall effect sensors. More magnets to hold the thumb stick might mess with those sensors.

[@Arthur01694]

what i love about this is that Razer included already the dongle the xbox ones have them separate

[@michelhernandez3488]

If I'm not mistaken, Razer still doesn't include the option to invert the left and right sticks and you can't remap all the buttons, only the 6 M buttons, it's true that in many games you can customize that, but there are also many that don't allow you to customize too much, in that aspect the Xbox Elite is the best, it even allows you to customize the buttons with letters and keyboard combinations. I wouldn't buy it just for this reason

[@Acyris]

I wish you also have tested the D-Pad input precision. There are so many controllers nowadays which have horrendous D-Pad precision, resulting in misinputs (e.g. pressing left may sometimes also register pressing up).

[@Dippedinblackink]

Big issue is I only use two paddles so I fear the two other paddles would get in my way.

[@kenzilbaptiste2519]

The fact that you view more buttons as an issue already shows you're a noob.. more at a later date

[@Dippedinblackink]

@@kenzilbaptiste2519 I view it as an issue if they're going to get in the way when I'm playing. Who pissed in your Wheaties?

[@GrAdeAjAmAicAn]

The one thing you didn't mention is that these controllers are using hall effects thumb sticks (huge win). As someone who has been using Razer (Wildcat and Wolverine V1.) their mouse click buttons have been my favorite feature on controllers and I've never looked back since (switched to Gamesir T4 Kaleid). While I'd love to own another Razer controller, especially now that they have a wireless version, I'm not willing to spend $200+ on controllers anymore especially since I switched to PC gaming more now. P.S Those M1&2 buttons are one of my missed features from other controller brands I've used (Elite v1, Scuff, Gamesir(current))

[@jonathanb9764]

Razor controller feels and looks amazing. The mouse click response and how lite it is gets a lot of cool points from me. Core elite 2/elite 2 with the trigger stops and paddles on doesn’t feel as great as the razor color. Elites also break down fast af. I ran thru elites that bumper buttons fail within a year. It doesn’t feel like this will be the same

[@LatinoHeat1986]

so you can still only remap the back buttons and the extra top bumpers but not face buttons or analogs i see

[@StogieSmokinFool]

I love using 2 the tall sticks. I wonder if they will sell additional sticks.

[@TheEtoneKapone]

they fixed the back buttons thank gooooood!!!!! the only thing that held me back from getting the controller

[@kenzilbaptiste2519]

m$ is not gate keeping anything besides HZ on these things ...razar made a smart choice u can simply buy caps that go over your sticks for way cheaper than a kit from M$..real serios gamers are not going to swap out sticks ..u pick a size and that it all the others go to waste..we dont need the extra fluff from the elite that comes broken in the box half the time all players...serious gamers need to do is get the tournament version of this pad which is 100USD at a later date

[@gamist8166]

As a competitive brawlhalla player, I really loved their wired controllers! Not shocked this product is doing well. Hard to wanna shell out $150ish dollars every time, but the only controller i saw with clicky mouse buttons on abxy. Hope this keeps those!

[@m77lapuente]

Looks like Razer fixed all the issues I had with the V2 Chroma. I do use the M1 and M2 with the V2 Chroma, I programmed them to be the mouse click trigger stop since the V2 didn't have that option on the trigger stops. Great review, keep it up Brotha.

[@ethangould3678]

how?

[@nazarethproductions7095]

Everyone commenting Flydigi fail to mention they have a bunch of QC issues . They advertised 1000hz but still has input lag when tested , and the back button layout is horrendous. Not the best but still doesn’t outperform a stock DualSense controller apart from Hall effect sticks and mechanical buttons.

[@hamzaalhalak2649]

You have to try the king kong v3 max its perfect at 80$

[@heyolorenns]

Vader 4 pro

[@ciscoroque464]

Any chance the sticks have tighter tension than the stock Xbox controller, or are they as ‘loose’?

[@Jimmy_on_the_sticks]

This is what I want to know. Someone replied to be on Twitter saying they are like the highest tension on the Elite. I'm worried to buy it and not be happy. Once you play on max tension going back is awful

[@panda51829able]

The chroma pro v2 or whatever it was called had the same rear button layout as the og Wolverine. On the og the rear button layout was actually comfortable since the controller was smaller and didn’t have those wide haunches like on the chroma v2. Glad to see the v3 fixed that and add the features I wanted in a pro controller. Hall sticks, mech face and rear buttons, and a rear button layout that isn’t flaccid by design. Totally agree with you in the missed point of extending that rubberized grip to the front. Bummer. Will be adding this to the collection for sure. Thank you sir ❤

[@PBA8]

I use the M1 M2 to remap the front bumpers. It is just easier to trigger than the front bumpers.

[@jerry51311]

How about the vibration difference between razer and elite controller?

[@wilazn]

Crazy how behind they are compared to flydigi and gulikit.

[@IStratz]

Thank god its hall-effect. If I was looking for a new controller, I would almost definitely pick this one up. It took so many years for a well-known and good quality company to make a hall-effect stick controller because of all the politics and intentional planned obsolescence. It has been absolutely unacceptable what these OEM manufacturers have been doing to limit this innovation coming to market and intentionally not changing it so you buy more controllers. They have even gone far enough to not even allow you to easily fix the worn out and problematic joystick issues that the analog technology had. There were so many solutions and they never once implemented ANYTHING to keep you throwing out controllers and buying new ones. Thank you Razer.

[@MadCheese1337]

cheaper brand to keep in mind for you "gullikit king kong pro 3 max controller" almost 50% less priced than the razer but same offering. except for exchangeable paddles and buttons.

[@Ruttagger]

Is the King Kong wireless for Xbox?

[@blackthorne2001]

@@MadCheese1337 yes gulikit and flydigi is the only controller i will buy it's cheaper but better than this controller.

[@Teilzeit02]

​@@blackthorne2001Out of convenience and as a console player this controller is way more convenient than any Chinese manufacturer

[@blackthorne2001]

@@Teilzeit02 well yeah but as a PC player this is better (Gulikit,Flydigi) than any consoles controller way cheaper but way better.

[@Uglier.]

I’ll wait to get a used one for cheap. I still have some Wolverine Ultimates stocked up. Best controller ever!

[@kkpgamez6685]

This one or Tournament edition?

[@iBlueClovr]

Definitely going to be picking one of these up and the new Nacon 6 button as well

[@ThunderTheYellowJolteon]

Do you think the Wolverine V2 Pro (The PS5 version.) will get the same treatment?

[@Highupp]

Unless I missed it I didn’t hear you say anything about the tension in the joysticks. Any idea how they compare to other controllers? Are they really loose or nice and stiff? Can’t really find info on this anywhere

[@thestrapguy2006]

Isnt the reason this is the 1st Razer wireless Xbox controller because Xbox had a specific license for wireless controllers until the start of 2024 and no 3rd parties were able to legally make any till now? So not realy weird at all, more of a constraint issue from Xbox themselves.

[@mohammedbenchekroun3173]

Hello, thank you for the video. Is the dpad good for fighting in your opinion ?

[@akaChriss4L]

I've been really graving for the razer wolverine to come out with a wireless model... but that price is just too steep. I guess I'll either wait for black friday sales or re-think if I actually care about wireless.

[@Cryptid71]

Yo you did not mention battery life techne or if you did it was very briefly covered in a completely missed it

[@milkmanchannel1]

Love the controller reviews. Honestly that $100 one might be worth picking up once it comes out

[@rc8281]

Ordered mine today!!

[@SimpleJack2008]

1000 polling rate only works for PC?

[@cweb1988]

Looks pretty good. But you can get pretty much the same thing for $40-50 with the gamesir controller.

[@xKillZone99]

the fact that in 2024 razer still releases controllers that doesnt let you remap the triggers, face buttons or L3 and R3 is just wild especially for a $200 controller

[@iBlueClovr]

What do you mean?

[@iBlueClovr]

Can't you remap in the razer app?

[@xKillZone99]

@@iBlueClovr nope only the extra buttons can he remapped

[@iBlueClovr]

@@xKillZone99 on the v3 also?

[@xKillZone99]

@@iBlueClovr from the videos I've seen yeah

[@mambo6365]

Scooping the Tourney edition of this one, 99 bucks for everything except the wireless ability.

[@SneakyBinHidden]

Does this controller have a mute button on it?

[@CaptainRex332]

Does it use hall sticks?

[@max10hoop]

Yes

[@SubtleHustle72]

I really want to get the wired version. I think it’s only $99.

[@n64slayer]

Do the joysticks feel loose, and do you know the brand of hall effect joysticks used?

[@Patriot-oi9cz]

I have played with the last few generations of Xbox elite and Razer controllers. I prefer the Xbox elite ones but they always end up having thumbstick drift issues and underbelly paddle not responding at every click after about 15 months (right after the warranty). Same thing happened with my last Razer controllers that felt light and « plasticky ». Over all, they all end up either with stick drift or paddle issues a little after a year. I now use the new Turtle beach controller and even if stick drift is no longer an issue, after 3 months the right and left bumpers that felt light and « plasticky » are not responding at every click…… i no longer know wich controller to put my confidence into beside going back to buy an Elite controller every 15 months or so🤷🏼‍♂️

[@ContactFault]

Do these have the same feedback through RT and LT as the standard series S/X controller?

[@NathenGonderman]

How did you get the controller to connect to the Software on PC? Mine wont connect and the only thing I have not tried is using the dongle

[@gieron666]

the fact you didnt mention the sticks have hall effect and won't drift over time really explains why microsoft has gotten away with selling these crappy sticks for this long

[@frederickm5879]

wolverine v2 still the best one.. i still love it! grabbed one for $35 brand new.. RC willey got em on super sale haha

[@Sortac]

Can you also remap the "normal" buttons like on the elite controller? Like could i remap my right thumbstick to "B"? Im used to crouch with a press of my right thumbstick, but not all games have full control customization, thats why i want my controller to be able to customize all the buttons.

[@Dogman52x]

I use them on FPS games sometimes as you can shoot faster than the actual triggers. Even with the half step trigger settings the M1 and M2 buttons are faster. I also use M1 sometimes for reload of guns. Anything to keep your thumbs on the thumb sticks instead of taking your thumb off to hit A,B,X,Y I also use the underneath left button to run instead of pushing down on the thumb sticks. I have a bad habit of pushing down on my sticks in stressful situations so sometimes I deactivate the thumb stick pushing down buttons, I use to knife by accident in call of duty all the time back in the day, so I just deactivate it now.

[@SKMElite28]

Does it still have the drifting issue?

[@calpispop]

Vader 4 Pro is a goated controller for

[@McGomezAddams]

How's the D-Pad? I enjoy platformers and fighting games.

[@StardustLegacyFighter]

Amazing

[@orclord5719]

Question i have, can you buy replaceable stick seperately? The last razor i had, I couldn't. Ended up getting the series 2

[@kytim89]

Microsoft should take notes from this controller for the Xbox Elite 3 when it comes out.

[@esportsmiyagi]

Would you suggest this over the turtle beach controller, and what controller would you say is best for Xbox?

[@StardustLegacyFighter]

100%, the Turtle Beach Stealth Ultra is fucking garbage. It's a little cheaper and does come with a charging dock, but the controller itself is very cheaply made and has a lot of issues.

[@esportsmiyagi]

@StardustLegacyFighter what controller would you say is best for use on xbox, I have the razer v2 and the v1, victrix, elite series 2, thrustmaster and scuf

[@StardustLegacyFighter]

​@@esportsmiyagiI'd say it has to be this one atm, since it can't be beat when it comes to specs and quality. The Victrix Pro BFG is a decent alternative, but it lacks clicky buttons and you need to buy hall effect modules separately.

[@Th3Maver1ck]

Can you map keyboard buttons to the controller?

[@Pork-N-Beans101]

Will you please do a review of the QC Bose headphones and vs the Beats studio.. I recently purchased the Phillips 9600 for the use on xbox.. and im hearing things in game i never heard before.. And not sure if these will work on xbox

[@bucks85thvg60]

Just got this and really like it. If I had one criticism, it would be that it could be a tad bigger

[@d.f.1064]

@TheTechne Please make a Video about razer THX spatial audio which now costs 25.00€ and Blackshark v2 pro owners have to pay to use THX spatial audio again... It is so unfair I paid in 2021 165€ for my Blackshark v2 pro because it had THX included and to pay now 25€ for it, is the biggest ripoff. And Techne please compare it to the steelseries sonar software which is now my main audio software equalizer that has spatial audio included. At least with sonar I can use again an equalizer with my Blackshark because the razer synapse equalizers and audio enhancements stopped working after an Synapse Update. So Techne please make a video about THX spatial audio alternatives and good equalizers that work with all headsets like steel series sonar. I am looking forward to watch such a video because I really struggled finding a good alternative for Razer THX spatial audio+equalizer for a headset.

[@MrAlessandro6336]

on steam you can't change the keys

[@StardustLegacyFighter]

Does anyone have this weird issue, where if you try to charge the controller using your PC (when the controller is off), the charging light flashes yellow for a few seconds and then turns off? I mean, my controller does get fully charged, but I have no way of knowing when because the LED light stays off.

[@Ironz._.]

This or the scuf instinct pro?

[@FMX1789]

Do you HAVE to use the dongle on pc or can I Bluetooth it similar to the Xbox controller?

[@darrendeng3948]

ive been using the first razer wolverine ultimate, im thinking of buying either the new wolverine v3pro or flydigi apex 4, o rturtle beach stealth ultra. any advice?

[@aawrr-q2m]

i would also prefer the razer controller over alot of others. Not the pro but the tournament edition for sure! If you take the pro i would choose something different like the hexgaming phantom or smth like that. But with the tourney edition i wouldnt pick any over this i think. Razer have made mouse and keyboards for decades and have some of the best mice in the world, so the clicks and the mechanic inside the controller is just top notch and i dont think many other controllers will have this kind of quality and longevity on the clicks as i am expecting. PLUS it comes with hall effect sticks so stick drift is pretty much out of the question, and that makes sure the controller is still usable after 3-6 months! Rn i play on the flydigi vader 4 and i love it, but i ordered the tournament edition and want to try it out. Have big hopes for it.

[@RonThaViking]

how do i put this controller into pairing mode blutetooth for phone app?

[@Y3ARY]

no charging port?

[@alithegreat7728]

Can you overclock it?

[@Arthur01694]

can you customize the paddles into a keyboard key?

[@utubeb14]

Do the triggers have rumble?

[@gyurmagyuri6440]

You gotta try out the Flydigi Vader 4 Pro

[@abelke]

I just don’t like Hall effect sticks for fps games. Kinda over the trend of them unless they make an improved version soon