The FIRST X-Men event is HORRIFIC! | X-Men: Mutant Massacre

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[@bAd12cheZ]

thanks for talking about Candy for 5 seconds they were a great 5 seconds.

[@vfxninja5503]

The Hellfire Club does NOT play Dungeons and Dragons, that would be silly They play Vampire: The Masquerade.

[@kordelshorgar122]

and they all are ventrue or toreador...

[@kyledamron]

So true!😂

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

If this was Hickman's Sinister, he did all of this to get the vest. Probably should've been more careful in front of his covert "recovery" team when he said "Yas. Slay Morlocks."

[@Peecamarke]

😂

[@MeSpawn297]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@Gronmin]

Omg that's a next level comment

[@Ducaso]

This is amazing 😂

[@gageansman295]

I see you mustache

[@loganthomas2421]

Congrats on 10 years of backissues Comic Pop crew!

[@TyirrTheProphet]

I absolutely love Sal's delivery of "ohhhhhh FUCK it's Nimrod!"

[@MFSeaMen]

17:44

[@WhelmedButReady]

10 Years of Back Issues babay! Greatest way to celebrate is with a brand new episode!!!

[@HaussmannComics]

"There's no money in the budget for a mutant terrorist group." Freedom Force literally exists at this time.

[@robertlehto4667]

At this point don't they work for the government?

[@Mortificent]

@@robertlehto4667 I meaaaaaan, you can still be a terrorist while working for or being the government

[@jalionelle9303]

X-Factor wasn’t really government funded (other than maybe typical corporate “government aid packages”). Slight misunderstanding I think by Sal. Hodge was part of Worthington Enterprises and that’s how he came into the picture to help convince Warren - who went to the others - with the idea. It was a “government connected” group but still billed (usually the government) for services. That’s part of the way Mystique talked the government - man, I’m using that word repetitively - into the idea: “How about a group where you hold the leash?”

[@JamesSerapio]

​​@@jalionelle9303 Yeah, as i recall X-Factor were effectively Ghostbusters for mutants, but it's been a spell.

[@megamanxhunter]

​@jalionelle9303 yes, the original X-Factor team wasn't government funded. That would be the case in the Peter David era.

[@johnkata528]

Ben falling apart over Angel having sky-sex was hilarious

[@MicahSps]

Madelyne Pryor’s backstory = Chris Claremont watched “North by Northwest” and made it everyone else’s problem

[@cardinalbelgravejr231]

You mean "Vertigo".

[@nimawhe]

Yeah but here’s the thing; Claremont meant for Jean to stay dead. John Byrne resurrected Jean in Fantastic Four and it came from on high that the original X-Men would be in their own title called X-Factor. Claremont had to deal with them fucking with his plans. I’m certain the Maddy situation would have played out differently if the situation wasn’t there.

[@bonobo84]

I've heard originally it was just a way to write Cyclops off

[@DarthJF]

@@nimawhe Claremont has himself stated that the plan was for Scott and Madelyne to get married and live happily ever after, but then higher ups at Marvel decided to bring Jean back and he had to play the hand he was given. Got to admire how well Claremont dealt with the whole situation given he originally never wanted to go in that direction.

[@YouCalledForTheDoc]

@@nimawheas can be seen by Claremont’s flashback anniversary issues over the years taking place during the time of the marriage so you get stuff like the Starjammers meeting their captain’s son, wife and grandson which he never got to do in the og comics due to how quickly F4 brought Jean back.

[@bensneb360]

And then, nothing bad ever happened to the X-Men again, it’s all smooth sailing from here lol congratulations on 10 years, thanks for all the great memories, and here’s to 10 more 10 more years

[@KindlyCryptid]

If Storm leads the Morlocks without living among them, I guess you could consider her… an X-arch!

[@microcelltechnicalassistence]

A xarch?

[@vaggelisbaousis1756]

X-books are always my favourite covered on the couch just because we get to watch Sal going crazy providing context for the previous 30 issues. Hopefully one day you'll cover the insanity that is the original Inferno.

[@frannydiggz1]

How crazy is it that this releases the same day as they release the Madeline Pryor episode of X-men 97, just a beautiful coincidence

[@benreilly4347]

Colossus: "Make peace with your gods little man, you are next" 😮😮😮 That was crazy epic

[@JasonEvans-j4c]

This event was wild. They actually imbue the killing of the morlocks with genuine pathos and horror but they never bother explaining why the Marauders are massacring them outside "we're mutants who kill mutants." Just leave it to some future writer to fill in the details. Bizarre.

[@chad8767]

honestly, that's what makes it more horrific. Senseless violence is worse. In a world where we see mass shooting all the time...this hits harder this way.

[@LaEspana2010]

1:01:11 The idea that all frogs in the Marvel Comic Universe now that Thor was once Throg, the greatest frog of all, is now one of my favorite pieces of Marvel trivia.

[@ItsOver9000Productions]

Happy 10 Years to the Little House who could!!

[@paulwhiston1836]

The Hellfire Club only exists because Claremont was clearly a fan of the 60s TV show The Avengers and thought Emma Peel looked hot in that outfit. They even drew one of them as Peter Wyngarde who was in that episode. They built up Gambit's big dark secret but when it was revealed as showing the marauders the entrance to the morlock tunnels it was kinda lame and anti climatic

[@Raytheman581]

I never knew that, I guess claremont had plenty of taste to say the least lol.

[@chrisdaily2077]

Honestly Mr. Sinister is an okay villain in the comics. I feel like that much like Apocalypse, X-Men TAS had the best version of Sinister.

[@simonhamelink3590]

Idk, i like sinister in the modern comics

[@chrisdaily2077]

@@simonhamelink3590 He's okay but he's more like Sal's interpretation of Mephisto. He's not (pun intended) sinister enough.

[@nathanhall9345]

Sinister seems like fundamentally a better character than he's ever gotten the chance to be. Like we're still waiting for his best stories.

[@thomasjohnson1885]

@@chrisdaily2077Sinister I feel is way more scary when he’s a more humorous person who doesn’t care than one with gravitas who’s generic. Hellions Sinister is best Sinister because he revels in villainy like the emperor

[@kyledamron]

I don't have a preference for the most part. TAS cemented my love of x-men after owning pryde of the x-men on vhs as a little kid, but TAS actually got me to go out and buy back issues of X-Men and current episodes. Claremonts run is my favorite especially if you include his work on spin off titles like #1-#4 of Wolverine with Frank Miller which is in my top 3 miniseries to this day. I feel like Morlock is damn near a slur for homeless mutants after watching this lol.

[@Henchman_24]

We try to ignore Austen's X-men contributions as much as possible

[@chrisdaily2077]

It's a shame because his Gambit two parter from Ultimate X-Men is one of the best stories in that series.

[@Henchman_24]

@@chrisdaily2077 is that the one with hammerhead?

[@chrisdaily2077]

@@Henchman_24 Yep. Although he may have just been the artist for that one.

[@dennydorko]

1980s X-Men was the best X-Men. I will die in this hill.

[@Peecamarke]

Oh and congrats on 10 years y’all! Ethan completely surprised me with being able to grow a full blown beard this whole time! Glow up king! 👍🏿

[@Primaeros]

"Twink, Bear, Hunk" on the sofa became "Twunk, Bear, Hunk" 💕

[@creed8712]

@@Primaeroswhere does Tiffany fall into the equation?

[@randyping6036]

The way Peter snapped was good representation of a turning point for the team, the X-Men were not going to play nice after this happened.

[@charleyprefore9504]

So happy you did this. I really love the Claremont era of x-men so these are some of my favorite episodes.

[@MeSpawn297]

The Inferno on the shelf is a nice touch! Haha

[@alexnejako777]

there was a time when you almost never saw Sabretooth in comics. having him be in fewer comics made him more interesting

[@Skyhunter826]

It's now my head cannon that wolverine purposely let all they guys get injured so he could get a team full of the women he has/had or will have some sort of thing with.

[@Christian-P.O.V]

I would love to watch the uncut versions of these vids. It’s gotta be 3 hours of diverting from the story to ponder all the ridiculous content of the comics we love. Something tells me there is a lot of gold that doesn’t make it to the final video.

[@dmurphy1578]

My first x men comic as an 11 year old was Angel getting crucified.

[@chrisbuttonshaw2088]

"welcome to the show"

[@TommyWest.]

Look over Sal's shoulder. Wolverine is just Batman with a banana on his head.

[@bashkind97]

HOLY SH...

[@theinsp3ctor368]

Y'all have gotten me back into reading more comics than I ever have in my 24 years walking this earth. I'd watch a video and then end up reading the book myself, so to that, I say: Thank you all!

[@jciano]

I love that I'm like 30 minutes into this and it's been almost all lore explanation with a detour into She Lies with Angels.

[@EliDEVITTSpeaks]

I expect nothing less from a pre hickman X Men book.

[@danantonio9618]

This era's comics are my favourite back issues episodes. Pure joy, exasperation and disbelief in equal measure.

[@PatLund]

7:30 I litterally just watched the X-Men TAS episode where this happened.

[@gabpintov]

The bit about Magneto not being a doctor made me laugh so hard

[@dawsonmiller9474]

10 years of my favorite KZbin channel!!!!

[@MrZsasz25]

I got an insane story that I believe you guys would have a blast doing: "Superman. The Millenium Giants", the story of how Energy Superman transformed back to regular Superman from 1998.

[@spoogtastic]

Congrats on 10 years! I would love a video where you compare and contrast comics 10 years ago vs today in a video. See where the business has gone and what's changed. Would be a neat little trip down memory lane and channel relevant.

[@JayTheRed602]

Rusty Collins sounds like the kinda thing you'd have to pay extra for.

[@JamesSerapio]

Funny you say that; if i recall, Rusty is from x-factor #1, their first case. He's a Naval crewman on shore leave and his first accidental victim is implied to be a prostitute.

[@yermatedave4930]

I thought that was a Rusty Venture...

[@smistgoman]

​@@yermatedave4930 beat me to it, go team venture

[@dandilber]

Very funny episode!

[@Franwub]

I like the idea that mole morlock pushes himself too far to get to the x-men, we've seen Nightcrawler travel across the country 50 metres at a time and almost kill himself to pass on an important message, happy birthday comic pop.

[@JohnClark-tt2bl]

🤣 Ben, I like the way you think. It's horrifying, but hilarious.

[@nathanboult4873]

SAL! I can soooooo imagine your voice as nimrod voice in an animated series! Your tone totally suits it- especially the nimrod from house and powers of x!

[@priceyyeti4058]

Thank you Sal for the preview of X-Men '97.

[@capsjukebox]

This was the era of X-men I started with reading the book! Mutant Massacre leading into the Fall of the Mutants and creation of both Excalibur and X-Factor.

[@liamro2]

The first episode I remember watching of Back Issues was “Kingdom Come” just before I started University and now I’m watching this episode just thinking that I have been watching the same faces for so many years. Still, I find all my enthusiasm for wanting to read more comics coming from the is this couch. Thank you comic pop!

[@NoahWelday]

This ep was exactly as fun and chaotic as this Era of Xmen should be. Great ep!

[@bAd12cheZ]

this perfectly sets up EXcalibur I will watch all future BackIssues with much interest. love you ComicPOP!!

[@antdujar]

10 good years of one of my fave comic channels consistently. Here’s to another 100 from the good ol people at comic pop! And x-men included? Let’s go!

[@blueldrrich84]

They had a real missed opportunity. They could have said ok its a sewer tunnel. There's moisture so he gathers that to form mini storm clouds and conjures lightning, but it accidentally ignites the methane in the air, condensed by the small tunnels, causing a huge explosive firewall that engulfs the tunnels. There, perfectly more reasonable than "asgardian fire" which he never uses again.

[@lenardadamtimar6656]

Yeah, but in the comics they wrote this fire as a (semi-)intelligent being. (So, It's M.A.G.I.C.). Because this didn't must care on the writing process as, "how many times have our heroes and villains before the fires consumes everything?", "why the fire didn't destroyed some places, whetmre the fighting takes place yet?","why nobody on the surfaces do something with the fire?", etc... My theory, that perhaps Thor conjured some fire from the Realm of Surtur, and that thing lurkes in the Marvel's New York nowdays...

[@catlawyerwilldefendfortrea6038]

Ben: "We're massacring the Morlocks (thinking Moloids)" Sal: "Yeah" Ben: "Good!" Idk what's funnier. Ben hating Moloids that much or accidentally cheering for Morlock's massacre

[@calsh14]

The fact that Thor & Power Pack were apart of this event SENDS ME.

[@Depthcharge2030]

10 years of ComicPop! I still vividly remember stumbling onto this channel while looking up Batman RIP. Here's to another decade! Thank you ComicPop!

[@TVBoomCity]

The Marauders were only able to do all that because half the X-Team was already injured from previous battles. Everyone was in trouble until Thor went into the Morlock tunnels.

[@p4rt_t1me_g0d]

This was a good arc, but I really like the one when the X-Men were presumed dead and hiding out in the Australian outback.

[@JTags28]

“You’re not a Morlock, you’re beautiful” 😂😂 I’m gonna start using Morlock as a derisive term

[@treyurbach2550]

It's always fun when you guys talk about a story I have read.

[@TheBlacKPhoeniXCoxy]

Congratulations on 10 years! 🎉 Love the fact that this is the episode that went up today, what with what happens is the episode of X-men 97 that also went up today, I know it was a happy coincidence but still.

[@Creed4222]

Spiderman: Attack of the Spider Slayers... need this in my life!

[@MichaelEspey-hp1jt]

The Mutant Massacre is one of the few stories that still impact the X-Men as it causes characters to permanently leave the roster with newer characters like Psylocke and Longshot. It also introduced Sabretooth who was originally an Iron Fist villain as an iconic X-Men villain and the archenemy of Wolverine.

[@I-the-red]

Here's to hoping they do the Fall of the Mutants and Inferno.

[@sangera]

"Name one story where [Chuck] is walking around." Avengers versus X-Men... definitely the first Avengers/X-Men crossover we want in the MCU.

[@kjwinbush2012]

I hate that that was the first thing that came to my mind too. 😅

[@CAPappy]

I remember reading the Thor stuff when I was going through the entire Walt Simonson Thor run. Good stuff

[@TheRealJameson505]

Favorite Show!!!! Congratulations ComicPop on 10 years! 🎉

[@undyingscorpio]

Sal did you put this episode of back issues out to coincide with a certain episode of x-men 97 coming out today

[@comicpop]

Maybe

[@coolshirtkid]

let’s goooo what an awesome episode for your guys’ 10th year anniversary my favorite back issues episodes are classic xmen stories

[@SuperiorJohn]

Happy 10 years to ComicPop! I wish everyone who’s been on the couch the best and can’t wait to celebrate 20!

[@JadeSpider2099]

Cool video Disclaimer: I never saw X-Men Animated Series, I was full on into Pokémon back then (still to this day). But watching 97” and seeing your X-Men Back Issues really got me inspired into watching/reading X-Men What’s your thoughts on the X-Men 97”? Have you read the X-Men 97” prequel comics

[@willknight685]

Congrats on a decade of stories, laughs, and community, I hope you all know how much you mean to us! Thank you Ethan, Ben, Tiffany, and Sal!

[@Tamaki742]

Congrats for 10 years!! Here's to the next 10 years 🎉

[@anthonymilc9721]

Thank you for covering more xmen! Such a funny episode I loved Ben’s reaction to gambit being duped lmao Great stuff more xmen back issues!!!

[@marcushamner5994]

Congratulations on 10 years of Back Issues, you guys! Mutant Massacre is my favorite saga in the X-Men titles in the Marvel Universe. I’ve been a fan since day one! X-Men 97 is awesome too! Excelsior!😊🤓👊🏾🎉🎉

[@Peecamarke]

Omg great vid! Totally forgot about this story!

[@shadowanders]

Well this episode came out on the right day

[@jjh01harmon38]

Here's to another 10 years, Comicpop!

[@b4thewar540]

To be fair to Giancarlo: A.) James McAvoy got away with being a walking Chuck one too many times B.) He’s probably still pretty burned from his last experience with a guy in a wheelchair

[@plainbrownwrapper]

This was my intro to hardcore comic collecting when it released…been hooked ever since😂

[@blackalucard3947]

Happy 10 year anniversary! Love the crew and wish you all continued success.

[@lenardadamtimar6656]

I have mild appreciation every time I reading this storyline, that the writers made this "self-contained" in-universe. Especially if we count with the cosy "underlife" in Marvel's New York severs. I wonder how many times the Marauders died when encounters abandoned secret government (or anti-government/spy/"nazi") facilities, old magic ruins, vampire's and/or alien's nest, criminal operations, super-villains liars,* BEFORE they meet the Morlocks (or Moloids :))...or how many times were eaten by giant reptiles. Sincerely, this massacre of course tipped the balance of the delicate ecosystem of the underground world in Marvel-New-York. * I don't think for example doctor Doom let them go easy, if they disturbed his operations.

[@bigcityreporter]

Congrats on the first ten years of Back Issues and I wish you many many more to come!

[@BrandonPaul]

I'm reading x-factor right now, and yeah, it's definitely a mess to try to explain anything in it...but it's still kind of a classic and I did enjoy reading the event when it came up.

[@hobowagonable]

10 years of awesome. And a great story this week. Im so happy.

[@Younggoodguydan]

Congrats on 10 years to the comic pop crew and to many more!

[@kyledamron]

I liked Storms Mohawk look, but the look she had before the one she debuted in giant sized x-men is my favorite followed the look she had under jim lee from TAS

[@michaelwood9012]

Congrats on 10 years! Calling Nimrod's paintjob a "chad move" made me laugh wayyyy too hard!

[@fjardim14]

"Mr. Sinister is tecnically not a nazi" Emmm.... Might not wanna check wha he was doing in some camps in WW2.

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

the right thing

[@chrisbuttonshaw2088]

damn it. we DO NOT mention that era of Uncanny X-Men (early 2000s)

[@yohsephcassidy7324]

10 yrs!!!! congrats, and thxz for all the laughs

[@DJFlix1000-]

Thank you! Great Job as always!

[@doctorprofessor182]

I can't believe Sal passed on the opportunity to name drop Rusty's girlfriend: Skids.

[@SubwoofBarks]

I love hearing that everyone has a healing factor all the time. Because we heal too but I wouldn't call it a "healing factor".

[@lufia7387]

Jeez bout time you talked about this event🎉🎉🎉

[@gggonext9302]

amazing video as always

[@IzzysIssues]

Congrats Comic Pop on a decade of one of the best shows on KZbin! When are we getting a reboot? An ultimate inprint? Crisis on Infinite Couches?

[@vitanpatel2061]

Brilliant as always!

[@donjreyoung]

This is definitely one of those episodes where a few more pictures would be awesome 😅

[@dearlydemented19ify]

10 FUCKING YEARS BABY! Congratulations on being fucking awesome. Thank you again for being there while I was defeating my demons. You all mean more to people than you'll probably ever know.

[@alexnejako777]

The mole thing showed up in the preview in Marvel Age

[@mikheilgiorgadze]

Hey, guys. I was never a fan of the X-Men, but I decided to read about them to “overcome my fear”, I started with the 60-s, but it felt so boring. Can anyone suggest a good starting point for a new reader of the X-Men? Should I start with the Giant-Size X-Men #1? Or something else?

[@TheCaptainKuhn]

47:48 just like that time somebody tried to make Daredevil blind during a fight