The Five Worst Gun Store Employees

If you go to gun stores long enough, you’ll meet all of these terrible employees.

[@joegilbert7661]

What about the "ignoring the customer" gun story employee? The one who thinks the customer standing in front of the counter is not really there and continues his conversation with another employee instead of helping the customer.

[@MrRevolver]

+Joe Gilbert I hate that guy too

[@maximusjoseppi5904]

aw man, so true. theres lots of those... i kinda put those in my "pompous know-it-all" category. or when you do ask for help its like they cant be bothered with an idiot like you...

[@DavidLLambertmobile]

that's 70% of the gun shop clerks in metro Orlando. lol.

[@stefanodogg280]

Maximus, that is pretty amusing. Have had it happen to me recently. I'm 57 and a lifetime gunner, activist, reloader and proficient in virtually every common firearm type as well as being a JKD instructor

[@kmsharley75]

There's a thin line there though. Some of them are actually pretty in touch with you and are really just letting you look for a minute. Those guys are pretty cool. They know when you look up at them,you are ready to talk.

[@jjohnston94]

You forgot the hanger-outer. He doesn't actually work there, and he's not buying anything, or even looking - he just hangs out there (presumably he knows the owner), butting in to everybody else's conversations. The strange thing is, no other retail establishment has this guy. You don't see him at oh, let's say, Jo-Ann fabrics, hanging out near the sewing machines telling people that Singers suck, and he wouldn't have anything but a Bernina.

[@chriskelly509]

Lol reminds me of this pawn shop I went into I walked in the door and there was four guys in chairs sitting in a semicircle and one of them had a dog laying next to the chair I was like WTF. They tried to bust my balls but I was actually educating them on some of the Firearms I was looking at and they immediately stopped flipping me crap

[@aa12fordays87]

thats not an employee so its not here

[@Entiox]

I used to have the people who just wanted to "hang out" come in to the knife store I managed all the time. Some of them were great, others not so much. The ones who got in my way when trying to sell a $500+ knife really pissed me off. We also had so many "experts" come in it wasn't even funny. Why it was truly amazing how many 18-25 year old knife fighting "experts" there were in those suburbs.

[@92FairladyZ]

That’s part of the gun store culture dude. I’m not saying that guys should always drop their 2 cents and interrupt but it’s the same thing as car meets or why people hang at bars. Also, think of it this way. If a customer that actually knows his crap points you in the right direction from mr. overly opinionated car salesman guy trying to sell you a 226 legion when you went looking for p 365. I’m just saying. I learned a lot from other customers early on and I get that if you’re in a hurry it can seems a bit frustrating but there are more people with valuable knowledge out there than I think you give credit for.

[@fount4in]

The only other retail establishments that have people like this are vape shops, nothing but douchebags who know the employees sitting around and blabbing all day.

[@gregcampwriter]

A local gun store had a sign on 7.62 Tokarev ammunition saying that it was for a C96 Mauser. That kind of nonsense will get people hurt.

[@bobm7275]

so point it out and then forget it.

[@jeffreyehlers1605]

How about the intimidator. Always annoyed with answering your questions and visibly irritated with you as a newbie trying to learn. I was actually told I would get no more help with selection since I didn't buy a gun from them even though it was one they couldnt get. I always felt like I was walking on egg shells. I will never return.

[@somuch4fun42]

I don't like the "asks you if you need any help, you say no I'm just looking I'll call someone over if I wanna check anything out, but stares and follows you around anyway" guy

[@user-ex9zm7bg3x]

stopped going to one store because never fails this guy would walk over to whatever case you were looking in, rest his gut on the top of the case and stand there breathing on you EVERY TIME

[@robinstewart6510]

Guy, his job is to be there to help you if you need it. The only possible way he can know that is to look at you.

[@mv1arms]

The makes eye contact yet ignores you guy.

[@MrPAULONEAL]

klist mv1 Have you had someone talk to you who never makes eye contact?

[@chaeairsoft]

Went to my local shop to ask the guy about a problem I’m having with my AR and he was looking at his phone throughout the entire talk. Made for a really uncomfortable time.

[@koopspook]

Well speak up then genius

[@chaeairsoft]

576575s I was like you gunna help me or are you busy? He said yea idk man and I just left

[@900stx7]

I'm the type that if i need help, i ask for it. With the internet it's so easy to do your research before you get to the store. I know it's your job to ask, but if i say im just looking, don't follow me around the store and ask me a thousand questions. Sometimes it feels like your trying to sell me a used car.

[@maxwellmortimermontoure7274]

I used to work with “military gun store guy”, he can’t hit shit so he just buys lots of guns and never shoots them. His embarrassment of being a poor shot keeps him from going to the range. It’s sad really.

[@chriskelly509]

I actually know a guy like this LOL he's one of those guys that tells me "I almost joined the military" seriously though this guy has guns he has bought and has never even fired them, and said guns he has had for over a year LOL he always asks me what kind of accessories he should buy for said gun and I always tell him the same thing im like dude why don't you go buy some ammo LOL he has stopped asking me for advice lmao.

[@thorpestanford5359]

Practice always helps

[@Moon_Presence]

practice makes perfect...... if you cant hit shit just keep practicing this isnt a competition on how big someones dick is ....

[@kurtmckelvey9478]

What about the gun store guy that don't won't to help you !!!!!! 😕

[@amintychannel3898]

Or the guy that just walks away from you and go help someone else when you still want to look at guns

[@zack9912000]

Why I try to not buy from a gun store

[@mikedavis3489]

My momey goes to the gun store down the street.

[@Tragicide]

Kurt McKelvey yeah those guys are the worst. Even worse are the guys who won’t even get somebody who’s not doing anything to help you with something.

[@USNVA-yn6cp]

thats easy,,,,,leave and never go back

[@gbonkers666]

ME: I need a shotgun. I am worried about the zombies. GUN STORE EMPLOyee: I hear ya.

[@Biscuitchris7again]

It's got a good spread!

[@nittanyburg20]

The one I run into the most is the disinterested employee. He doesn’t seem to care about his job or want to help me. Maybe because I look young and they think I can’t afford anything? Idk

[@zachz699]

Went in for a new AK and a handgun once when I was 24, dude was a fucking dickhead always sliding in comments about budget and how HK is pricey and trying guide me away from them. I got so mad I took out the 2k bonus in cash in my pocket and thumbed it like a deck of cards and walked out without a word

[@robinstewart6510]

Most employees, not wanting to be rude or pushy, are waiting for some indication from you that you need help instead of just sightseeing or whatever.

[@mozzberg590]

3 years Coast Guard, my "weapons" where a dust pan and fox tail.

[@MrRevolver]

+mozzberg at least you never did a tour on the Dirty Bird, where your weapons would have been a paintbrush and a vomit bucket.

[@marvinatkins2355]

@@MrRevolver entered Navy 12/79 E-1, first job clean urinals.....left Navy 11/89 E-6, last job in Navy clean urinals

[@user-ex9zm7bg3x]

semper paratus

[@AltonRowell-gb1lb]

50 desert eagle is perfect for a ankle carry. I kicked a man to death .

[@jameskaras4345]

yes it is.....for king kongs ankle hahahahahahaa

[@gaylenstone9329]

I have totally met the "Old Timer" at a local store. Spent 15 minutes telling me not to buy a pistol that wasn't steel and a revolver

[@simonmaguire5250]

Did you ask why he had it for sale?

[@CrudeConduct666]

He just wanted you to have a good gun.

[@shawnreynolds9441]

I met one to he liked my 1911 till I said yea I like my 10mm then he gave me a dirty look and stopped talking to me

[@montanamountainmen6104]

@@CrudeConduct666 HAHAHA yep, a good gun not tupperware.

[@montanamountainmen6104]

@@NaruSanavai Wanna bet? Colts the Gold Standard 100+ years of service, Glock don't have that, plus I use that Colt and carry everyday..........I'll take your bet.

[@uruzzo]

You were correct about the Military expert that never fired a gun except for basic training. I just watched a retired GENERAL with a reporter on CNN displaying how dangerous a weapon such as the AR-15 is. His first statement was about how "LOUD" it was. ( Inside Range) Then he shows how powerful it is by shooting slow and not holding the gun properly against his shoulder so it jumps around stating that was semi automatic. NEXT - Believe this if you can. He then tell the reporter to watch this: Saying I'm going to put this gun in : +++FULLY SEMI AUTOMATIC+++ Yes he said "FULLY SEMI AUTOMATIC" and that means he pulled the trigger faster. What a propaganda spouting TURD this retired general was. It's no wonder we are losing wars with generals like this idiot. This is now on you-tube so you can look it up for yourself.

[@gbonkers666]

Yeah....I remember that guy. But, the media will always seek out experts who will advance their agenda.

[@freddieh5539]

No kidding. I once heard Redd Foxx say, "When I was in the army, one time I retreated so far that I ran into a general. He said, 'Why are you running, soldier', and I said, 'I am running because I cannot fly.' ". Some of those high level military guys don't have a clue.

[@clintonsavage4018]

Your biggest mistake is conflating an officer with an enlisted.

[@dantheman7145]

Yes I saw the same news story. A bunch of BS for sure.

[@dantheman7145]

@@clintonsavage4018 The best officers I met in the U.S. Army were prior enlisted that went through OCS. (Officer candidate school).

[@BuschGibson]

I can safely say that the only shops I go to where most of the employees aren't total cocks, are the little "mom and pop shops". They generally have better deals too, especially around tax season.

[@specops56]

Some of us "Old Timers" are experienced enough to know that one size almost never fits all.

[@TheProAer]

Very true, I still like .45, and I'm a young guy.

[@AttentiveDragon]

Wait, you're in Pompano?! Dude, when I finally get my concealed carry license, I'm coming to your store to get my first handgun. I'll even ask your opinion so you don't have to be the "know it all" guy.

[@koopspook]

Attentive Dragon you should just buy a handgun so you can start shooting and training with it, no need to wait for a cc license honestly

[@SierraBravo347]

"Run your gun, Not your mouth".....I Like That!!👍

[@CB6JB12]

Had a shop in my town that was legitimately 1, 2, 3 and 5. Needless to say they aren't in business anymore. They always had top shelf items if you could stand the belittling and make it out without getting frustrated. Great video !

[@galamonkey]

I sell guns part time for fun at a gun store. I do push my opinions when I see someone asking for something that wouldn't work for them. I like to show them what they want to see and explain the pros/cons, then show them some competitive options. In your example of a 642 j frame, I will show them that gun, explain some pros/cons, then show them some similar and different competitors, like the LCR, LCP, G43, Shield, etc. I've had plenty of older women wanting a home defense gun come in wanting a j frame type 5 shot revolver because it's "simple." I always first ask questions for the use, experience, what they're looking for, etc. If it's a woman who is recoil sensitive and doesn't have much experience shooting, I will recommend a full size 9mm over a airweight 38/357. At first they are skeptical, but I've had a few who have came back after buying something like a full size M&P, G17, G19, etc, and thank me for steering them in that direction because they love shooting it because the light recoil, and have since tried a friends j frame and hated it because they couldn't hit due to sights/trigger and hated the recoil. I've even got a few older women set up with an AR15 (usually a m&p15) and a red dot, and got them to sign up for our carbine course and they couldn't be happier. It was the same situation where she wanted a small pocket rocket revolver because she thought it would be easy to shoot, and just assumed an AR would have a ton of recoil. I've sold people guns I thought were completely wrong for them and what they were going to use them for, but some people (typically successful men in the 50-65 age range I've found) who know the least don't want answers to questions, they want to tell you why you're wrong and why *insert dumb cliche gun saying* is always true.

[@stefanodogg280]

I'm 57 and probably have forgotten more about weapons and reloading than the entire staff of most small gun shops know. So if I come in after parking my cobra, don't assume C];0)

[@rickyjanzen6684]

A lot of ranges have rentals. They may not have THE gun you were thinking about, but perhaps other options can be good and maybe you'll find a new best choice. Many of those ranges have shops, too, often with some sort of return/exchange policy.

[@gbonkers666]

@@rickyjanzen6684 I was just going to ask...don't many gun stores now have ranges to shoot off a few to see if it would fit for them?

[@richardgallardo5595]

"poodle shooters" that got me cracking up!

[@beardedtokoloshe]

As someone whose family owns a gun store, I know all 5 of these way too well. And it's absolutely TOXIC ! Great video. Subscribed

[@markfrurhauf1613]

I wish all gun shop owners held your point of view I have dealt with way too many of the five that you talked about thank you

[@Soundvermont]

I had the know it all last year, I was interested in the Sig 320 and he started in on me as to why would want that gun and it felt condescending. I never went back. I ave another gun store up my way that I like and go to all the time because they never make me feel that way and their is no wrong question with them so it's a great fit for me. Oh and yes I did order the SigSauer p320X

[@koopspook]

Robin Farrar aw they made you feel funny... lol

[@villagelightsmith4375]

Would anybody argue that John M. Browning was not ahead of his time?

[@gbonkers666]

well, some gun customers are people who see guns on TV, and yeah, that's fun. Then, they walk in, and say, "I want the gun Rambo had." The gun is like, "well, actually that gun is illegal." And the customer will go, "Well, I saw it on TV."

[@cheaffer]

The guy who repeatedly dry fires the gun that you're looking at buying

[@ttattx]

ummm, you don't look that young... jus' sayin'... but that porn stache... pure gold baby

[@MrRevolver]

+Keith Nelson ha, yeah I used to look young as hell

[@daspiper8941]

~When I visit my favorite Gun Shops, I will usually listen to conversations between the employee and the customer, since I often learn something. ~I'm a old man with 50+ years around firearms and I'm still learning new things especially about modern firearms. ~Lucky for me my favorite LGS have excellent employees who have been there for many years and I usually trust them. They normally will just answer questions instead of generating questions, which I think is a good thing, but they will ask the customer important questions such as the customers legal ability to buy a firearm.

[@coreyfaith9745]

I apologize for blabbing and ranting in that last comment, i know it's not for that. Anyways great video man! You nailed it dead on.👍🏼keep up the great work man and congrats on your shop! If I'm ever around your area I'll come by and pick up a gun or two! Just don't sell me to death lol jk. Thanks again man

[@bosco358]

you forgot one , the I'm oh so important and your bothering me with your stupid questions employee ... we have some of them here in upstate NY , when I encounter that type of guy , I turn around and walk out the store with my money still in my pocket and go elsewhere , I can't stand that type of employee

[@doghousedon1]

I ran across a guy over a year ago that doesn't fit your list but should be on it, and rated number 1. Most gun stores stock the guns they sell a lot of. I buy guns that I consider unique, very nice, and will have collector value. This means most of what I buy are special orders. Well, this employee told me they didn't carry it (I already knew that, just order it fool) and told me to get it elsewhere. So I did. And got the next 7 guns elsewhere too. Needless to say when the manager found out he was pissed. That employee was fired from that business months earlier for other reasons, but the manager had a talk with his staff about it to make sure that doesn't happen again. And I had to reestablish a business relationship with that store again. All is cool now. You don't stay in business by selling a product to a guy. Rather you stay in business by selling ANOTHER product to that guy. I'd like to visit your store but distance probably prevents that. Thanks for the vid.

[@MrRevolver]

Don Thursby well I don’t run it any more so don’t worry about visiting! Sorry about your bad experiences though

[@kellypidgeon4269]

You nailed it! Well done!

[@LatestHour]

I went to Bass Pro today to buy some Winchester white box that was on sale, and they had a box of 50 JHPs for only $5 more, so I thought that was a good idea. But the guy at the counter tried to get me to buy FMJ because he has never bought more than 20 hollow points at a time (or maybe ever?). So his lack of practice with carry ammo is supposed to encourage me to not shoot JHP but only carry with them.

[@13Hangfire]

Most (not all) gun store employees are the absolute worst! Thank you for making this video and validating what most experienced shooters already know!

[@ralphb.5335]

Then there's always the guy that pees on the toilet seat...

[@counterfeit1148]

That's not only in gun stores.

[@jimcollins7052]

LoL priceless

[@alaskaimage395]

Ha, I love my gun shop. We got the old timer for sure but not as bad as you describe here. He did just recently sell me a Sig p220 in 10mm. I was looking at a 44mag Ruger Alaskan for bear country... this old timer said "What do you think of 10mm" I told him I know more hunting guides are using them. He put that Sig in my hands and said "whatya think?".... I bought it lol.

[@endlesspotential2079]

The "I got 3 thirty pointers with them .308s ryederr"

[@kevinc.5073]

I hate unsolicited advice from gun store employees. Many of them assume you don’t know anything. The mere fact that someone works in a gun store doesn’t make them omnipotent.

[@beetee4295]

“...or maybe he’s a little bit of an asshole like me...”. Love that honesty Caleb. I just gained much respect for you.

[@vinconco]

I've been in a LOT of gunshops over the last 50 years. I used to go there to buy guns but now I go there to goof on the employees. I feel sad for 1st time gun buyers that take the word of these goofballs for a very important decision.

[@heavyhitta52]

National armory literally has the worst customer service I’ve ever experienced in a gun store. Ironic you’re making this video. Last time I went there I was told I couldn’t see a gun because last time I was there I didn’t buy something. Took my business else we’re and have bought thousands of dollars worth of firearms since. This was maybe 4 years ago and haven’t been back.

[@MrRevolver]

I used to run the place, and the service was real good when I ran it. I don’t run it any more

[@Onikame]

As a USAF vet, I feel attacked. Of course, I don't inflate my experience level based on that 'vet cred'.

[@KatoCoyoteCombatWorkshop]

Another one for you: The Unhinged. I can count the number of Unhinged I've encountered on one hand, but he always has his hand on his Glock 20 whenever someone walks in the shop. Just by speaking with him, or listening to him speak with others, it's clear he hopes for the day he gets to shoot and kill someone "in defense". He talks about thieves or someone breaking into his home or car with a grin on his face because it means he gets the opportunity to blow their brains out. He does not believe in calling 911. He owns a .308 and night vision for the express purpose of putting down fleeing invaders by shooting them in the back at 100 yards. Despite this he's decent at his job and you don't want to fire him/stop shopping there because his Unhinged nature and aura of violence does not prevent him from checking magazines and lube out at the register. Just don't look him in the eye.

[@CBeard849]

Lol...! Props to you for admitting you're only a notch or two above a used car salesman!

[@bernieeod57]

These are the same "Don'ts" I was taught when working for a BMW Motorcycle dealer. Sometimes the customer knows exactly what he or she wants, other times they don't know what they want and you need to probe them for exactly what needs they need met. Adapting my MC Dealer training: 1) What do you need? 2) Are you really going to be an enthusiast or is it your intention to just have it as an emergency tool alongside your first aid kit or fire extinguisher? 3) If looking for a rifle, once again, what is it for? How far do you want to be able to hit something? How hard do you need to hit it? 4) How many tasks do you want it to do? (Hunting, recreational shooting and home defense?) Just a few questions I would ask one who is just starting

[@drewcasper4608]

The air force guy making air force jokes

[@P46345]

How about the "Are you going to buy something or just stand around and look" gun store guy.

[@robinstewart6510]

Most employees, not wanting to be rude or pushy, are waiting for some indication from you that you need help instead of just sightseeing or whatever.

[@KumoGoesFast]

@@robinstewart6510 they're referencing the employees that don't like when customers come in to just look around.

[@frostbitex7613]

You probably shouldn’t have classified yourself as a “turbo-salesman” who only wants to make a quick sale no matter what the customer originally came in looking for (even if it’s true). Puts a bad taste in any potential customers’ mouths who watch this video before visiting your shop

[@MrRevolver]

Well luckily I don’t have that shop anymore, so I don’t care what stupid guns people want

[@frostbitex7613]

Gun Nuts Media lmao that’s works

[@benjaminthomas1321]

The old timer in my store is good always trying to bundle things up give me a decent amount of discount and always trying to get me to part with one of my surplus 303 43 never seen action leinfileds which I do use as part payment sometimes

[@mrflynn510]

I like the turbo salesman, because I can at least convince him to put something on order for me with a down payment.

[@henryklevemann]

you had me at "little bit of an a-hole" :-)

[@holeeshi9959]

the worst gun shop employee, for both the customer and the store, I think, are the type that will outright refuse to sell a gun if it is not something they like. I had that one interaction where I picked out an AK(and a good one at that), and the gun store guy refused to sell me that because they said ARs are better. it's the opposite of turbo salesman, I personally like to call them the "not selling" guy

[@markgardner4039]

Forgive me if this has been already suggested, but allow me to add a 6th type of gunshop employee--the one that turns a customer into the 'Invisible Man' (person?). The salesperson, not engaged in any apparent task, that looks right at you or avoids eye contact, not sure which is worse, and doesn't even acknowledge that you're standing at the counter. Thus making the customer 'ask' to be helped. Very annoying!

[@MrRevolver]

+Mark Gardner yeah, I absolutely agree that those guys are terrible!

[@okie3625]

Personally I like those guys. They save me a lot of money because I'll walk out.

[@badazzkaz]

Well you have a mouth to ask so do it.

[@jalfredosamurai]

Happened to me, turned around and went to another gun shop. They asked for what I had fired before and gave me recommendations and helped me pick one. The other shop got a one star on Yelp.

[@jalfredosamurai]

576575s I have the adequate social skills necessary, did not know it was my responsibility to offer my own customer service. Being looked over doesn't necessarily make me feel like they want my business. If that makes me an asshole then I guess I am.

[@BaldwinBay]

I have never been in a gun store. I'm going soon to look at a Ruger 100 Revolver. Also going to take a class in Gun Safety. The Gun Store is located in Culver City California. It has been open since the 1950s. Hope I have a pleasant experience. Great advice, thanks.

[@Elvis68spec]

Very cool video! Very well said!

[@andrewbolay1517]

Most of the "old timers" don't know shit! They think because they are older they are wiser . You can tell right away!

[@chriskelly509]

What I really like is the old-timer who really knows what he's talking about and can help you purchase a quality firearm on the budget you want and the needs you want to use it for ,but then you get the extra crusty Old-Timers who look like they're just pissed off even being alive

[@lightotw]

There are experts like it in any field. The ones that drive crazy are the type who sound like they are saying something useful until you wait for awhile and realize it is all vague, commonly said stuff. Sometimes it combines with doing a segue on top of the thing they partially explained. They say stuff like "buy quality ammunition", or "clean your firearm properly", or "apply just a little drop of quality gun oil at the right spots", or "you need to buy the firearm that suits your needs", and somehow they can talk like that without saying anything specific, for an hour. None of it is news to the person on the receiving end, but the person pontificating will go on like they have something intelligent to say.

[@Leonardokite]

Very well said. Great attitude from a gun store owner.

[@watevatube]

I recently ran into the "talk down to you because I dont want to buy the top of the line 2200 dollar gun guy". .that douche

[@bpaulus671]

I'm looking to open a gun store in my town in New York. Nice to see that you are a owner.

[@brianwinters2131]

I use 45 acp in my home defense pcc as in Nj hollowpoint ammo is legaly problematic so I use 45 calliber due to the aforesaid problem.

[@davidmiller6981]

Sounds like bass pro im old guy 70+ and unless i stand there looking at sales person they completly ignore me

[@johnvecchiarelli9724]

When purchasing a pistol at my gun shop is there a concern with buying a gun from the display case? Should I insist on a brand new one and not the firearm from the case? What is your advice as I am considering a new purchase. I feel the shop pushes this display gun when I buy.I am concerned the gun has been handled or mishandled and feel more comfortable with a new in the box gun.

[@nathanchappell1886]

11/10 can confirm #4, I carry a roland special appendix and have no idea what I'm doing.

[@concealedcarrydaily9087]

Could you review some of Paul Harrells work?

[@ACimagemaker]

Youre in Fl? I'm coming to your store as soon as I get back there, I need a couple Glocks, FN 5.7 and Sigs.

[@MrRevolver]

+Anthony Collins awesome

[@oldcop18]

I’m a 72 year old retiree and look it, so it’s irritating when I go into a gun store and get a superior attitude from a young employee. What they don’t know is I was a cop for 30 years and survived three gunfights w/my issued thirty-eight so I know a little something about fighting w/a gun.

[@brentprosser5563]

Old Cop i mean no disrespect when I say this, but most cops don’t really know anything about modern ballistics and most of them give absolutely horrible advice. I work in a gun store and don’t get commission (something I’m glad for because it means I’m always going to be thinking of the customer first). Most cops send their wives in to get a 380 ruger or a 5 shot revolver that’s incredibly light and has a ton of recoil. It takes me a long time to get the misinformation their “cop” husband has filled them with. The 380 round is not a good primary carry round. I’ve participated in ballistics tests where it will barely get through denim. Yet, most cops think it’s what their loved one should be carrying. They don’t understand that smaller guns are more “snappy” and bigger guns mitigate recoil. I shoot with a lot of cops, some of which are on swat and other specialized task forces. The overwhelming majority of them are absolutely dreadful at shooting. I’m glad you survived your gun battle, but people wear bullet proof vests all the time now. Not to mention the sympathetic nervous response (fight or flight) affects humans in horrible ways concerning gun usage. The national statistics are thus: guaranteed 3 misses. Nationally, 80% of all gun shot wounds in shootings are in extremities (arms/legs) and aren’t necessarily game winners. So, applying that to my recommendation to carry 17+1 (glock g45, g17, FN 509, Sig P320 X-Carry, etc.) you’ll only land 3 shots in center mass.

[@oldcop18]

Brent Prosser What I was talking about was the gun store employee, or a random customer, who tries to come off as a ninja warrior telling me not to carry anything that does not start w/a four and holds at least 14 rounds w/three extra mags.

[@JackRockBLC]

Pompano Beach? Crap, I was there not too long ago. Wish I'd known you were just around the corner.

[@colsondoyle5324]

What are your thoughts on the Ruger American Compact in 9mm?

[@MrRevolver]

Lol nope

[@marcelarmas5817]

Well now some people know to not go to your shop because you said you will try to sell something almost by force and a lot of people including me hate those type o employees it reminded me when i got a letter in the mail to go to the car dealership to refinance my car after just one year of ownership i went there and all they tried to do was sell me a new car and i did not want a new car but they insisted i walked out frustrated and mad and told them they were a bunch of liers once my car is paid off i dont want anymore debt im keeping it and when i buy a new car im not going to that dealership í understand is your job as a salesman but you cant just try to sell something no matter what dont harass customer because of salesman like this is i buy my guns online and cheaper too and i have a good transfer dealer who wont get pissed because i didnt buy the gun from him he tells me that there are days that he makes more money from transfers than from gun sales

[@VapidToast]

My dad's a salesman, ain't no turbo salesman going to get me. I know the shtick lol

[@robertwatson818]

Pick a known reliable firearm and train. The Turbo type salesman is good for business---no sales means no income. Sell all you can---even if it is just a small bottle of oil.

[@Alexwaltman850]

You forgot one worse than the know-it-all, the guy/gal who would prefer every customer to know exactly what they want to buy before you walk in and you even asking to see a gun from behind the counter is the biggest annoyance they have ever had to endure and how dare you disturb them from doing nothing would you please just buy your s*** and get out sort of employee, or as I affectionately call them..."Walters" (Jeff Dunham reference). A gun shop in my city is filled with Walters.

[@blackrifle3742]

I like a turbo salesmen, always convinces me to empty my wallet on the gun ive been wanting. #noregrets

[@Ogrematic]

I don't mean to be rude, but there have been a lot of advancements in the 1911 platform in that time. New steel, better machining and tighter tolerances have made them much better than the old ones. They are now match grade and many people use them in competition. (Wilson Combat, Ed Brown, Springfield Custom, etc.) The .45 cartridge has also seen advancements. I own and carry a 1911, and though I am 6'3", 285lbs, I still like to carry .45 over 9mm or .40. This is only my preference. I like the way they point. I don't like glocks. You can sell people whatever fits their hand, everybody's different. But just cuz I started with a 1911 at summer camp and prefer it to say, a beretta and a s&w, does not make me old. The fact that I have lived on the planet for a while makes me old. Shoot straight and stay safe. (No matter the caliber.)

[@Gothstafr]

So far the worst gun store employee ive met was a 'starer' the kind of person who contines to give a thousand mile stare at you through the whole store while not saying a word like he expects you to steal something.

[@robinstewart6510]

Guy, get rid of your paranoia. The gun store employee's job is to be there to help you if you need it. The only possible way he can know that is to look at you or watch you, waiting for some indication from you that you need help instead of just sightseeing or whatever.

[@rubykaufman5361]

Sounds like the idiots that i ran into in the Sherman Academy Sports and Outdoors as i was passing through to OK City, what a bunch of flakes!

[@SilenceSlayer223]

Ahh, the "size you up guy". Don't assume that I don't have money or common sense because I'm 29 years old. I've even taken to carrying my Cz Custom Shadow Orange in plain sight in gun shops so they at least talk to me.

[@spaceace4387]

My very first time I told them I was a beginner and if they recommended anything, they recommended me a Beretta APX and they were absolutely right, that was a great gun for me considering my level of experience. It wasn't the most expensive gun but it was the one that suited my needs the best.

[@tbone11x]

Recently while looking for a Ruger Super Redhawk in 454 Casull I was told by an employee that I will not be able to handle the recoil and will not he able to afford the ammo for such a firearm. Irritated me a bit, an elderly know it all type.

[@ahessent]

It seems like the worst employee is all of these combined... always (so, #1 then)

[@retiredafce3373]

Hey I was a Carpenter in the Air Force, I love 1911's and M-14's! Lol

[@beancounter8079]

Retired AF CE I emptied airplane toilets in the Air Force 20 years ago.

[@retiredafce3373]

Michael Hill sweet! It's a shitty job but someone has to do it.

[@BobPublicover]

Didn't realize they still made wooden planes.

[@retiredafce3373]

Bob Publicover ha no I build roads, air fields Forward Operating Bases and did some cool Army support and even a Psyopp with 10th Mountain in Afghanistan. And yes I had plenty of gun time!

[@BobPublicover]

Just a little kidding from a old Navy Guy, Vietnam . Appreciate your service my fellow Patriot!

[@justinmartinez680]

I hate the gun store employees who ignore you at the store and will only talk to you if your trying to buy something.. I've gone to places and looked around and one employee said are you gonna buy anything this time? Wtf

[@NicholasSilva1380]

So if a guy joined the military and is M16 rated but never saw any action, somehow his information is invaluable because he doesn't have as much time shooting as you? Cause you kind of sound like "that guy"...

[@mikerbikex6656]

I subscribe for the entertainment, as much as for the information. As an old guy (Someone said "AARPer." That's me.) I believe that we continue to learn, throughout life, partly by listening to the opinions of others, even when we disagree. Listen (really listen) and you learn that people sometimes use irony and satire in their statements. That's you. Many people don't get it. That's your former sub "tponn." When you speak in your usual way, people like tponn take your comments literally. It's their loss, even if they aren't bright enough to know. So you bashed us old 1911 and revolver types. Since I make fun of myself over my preferences, you might as well do the same. I've also encountered all of the salespeople that you described. I also know that I'm smarter than they are, much better looking, and know more about firearms than all of them. I feel blessed that I have access to a local gun shop, where the owner knows my name and my preferences and treats all of his customers with respect. He always starts his sales process with questions and actually wants to help people make decisions. Now, I think I'll put my Model 10 revolver into a holster and one of my 1911's in a case, saddle up, and ride over to the range. Keep doing what you do, and if I ever get to Pompano, I'll stop in. You can take that as a threat...or not.

[@jeremypaluck4246]

The guy who has never shot a ten gauge who tells you a twelve gauge 3½" is superior. Haha.

[@Thisisoscar_]

well theres nothing a 10 gauge can do that a 3-1/2 magnum cant do. see the difference?

[@jeremypaluck4246]

@@Thisisoscar_ have you ever owned a ten gauge, or had any prolonged experience using one?

[@Thisisoscar_]

@@jeremypaluck4246 so what can a 10 gauge do that a 3-1/2 magnum cant do exactly? other than being hard to find and costing twice as much lmao.

[@jeremypaluck4246]

@@Thisisoscar_ so I take it you have never owned, nor spent any amount of time shooting a ten gauge? You see, I have spent alot of time shooting ten gauges, and I've spent alot of time shooting 3.5" magnum 12 gauges. If you want to argue against my statement, then at least provide some sort of experience, at the least to prove your point.

[@Thisisoscar_]

@@jeremypaluck4246 youre avoiding my question. no body asked you "how much experience you have" who cares? im asking you what does youe ten gauge do that a 3-1/2' mag cant do?? i dont get it you cant give me a straight answer. you know why lmao because 10g is useless! hey man do whatever makes you happy, but you do not need a 10 gauge.

[@bandogmerch]

"THAT GUY"... "THAT GUY"...LOL

[@BradYaeger]

Recently had an OUTSTANDING experience at a Cabelas in Washington state . I announced I was there for a specific type of rifle but not sure the specific model . He brought them all up on the screen with all the features and prices. I chose what fit my needs and he asked what else I needed and one by one we closed the deal without any hard up-sells. In fact he steered me away from a few higher ends products that didn't fit my situation. End result I got what I came for, he got a sale, but more importantly that store got a new regular customer. And it's an hour each way from my house. But based on my experience it's well worth the drive. However I also recently had a #5 situation , 20 minutes from my house that resulted in me taking that same money right back out the door. Despite also announcing I was there to make a purchase. And the rifle in question was a good old Ruger 10/22. One of the most common rifles in America that pretty much sells itself, but dude just couldn't get out of his own way.

[@stefanodogg280]

I'm 10 minutes from Cabelas. Their only problems are gun prices (compared to shopping on line and sending it to an FFL) and ammo availability. With a store that huge the ammo area should be twice as large, and better stocked. The customer service is decent, though

[@noblebar]

I’ve had all those guys except the pushy gun sales guys..... 😂

[@bernieeod57]

I will contend that guarding a ship in the middle of the night under the military's restrictive rules has more in common with home defense / CCW than infantry does. Even in combat arms MOS's, Not all infantry qualify with a pistol. Navy Quarterdeck watches do. Having said that, the Navy does not have very impressive weapons training for the everyday Sailor, Even those required to guard the ship. As a result, I bought my own weapon and trained on my own time and dime in order so that I could be a better sentry while on duty.

[@mattlangstraaat3508]

Ignoring the customer .. its worked for block for 30 years with their toy gun sights, horrible triggers, and unnatural grip angle...I ask, how many times did you hold back the industry and push a block.? A non usa company that absolutely hates its customers! Perhaps its your biz model too?

[@alaskaimage395]

I'd love to come into your shop. Yeah you and I would have some serious debate (not an argument a real conversation) but id buy from ya.

[@Shorty_Lickens]

I think condescending is worse than know-it-allism because the seller can be arrogant and obnoxious even if he doesnt know much about guns.

[@darrellenglish6283]

Guns are made with Steel & Wood ...Anything else are Toys ...

[@sharper9009]

Dumb question I guess but what is a "Roland Special"? I'm a gun guy and have never heard that before. Lol

[@RumblestripDotNet]

Google is your friend, my friend: bfy.tw/E84x

[@dglockster]

ateiguns.com/product/roland-special/

[@stefanodogg280]

Don't feel bad, I just saw my first one, yesterday. An absurd ammount of $$ to spend on a Glock. For me tritium nite sights, quality recoil spring setup, and maybe a Lone Wolf barrel and I'm done

[@lownbrother]

Motor T had a 50 cal.every five trucks and an M60 on the last truck, my wrecker. DaNang

[@BushcraftingBogan]

YES! The know it all. It’s great if I go in for a specific cleaner, equipment etc and the seller says, “yeah we have it, but have you tried X? I’ve used what you’re looking for, but X does this and I switched and here is why.” Now you’ve got my attention. Sometimes going to the gun store for something specific can be a real pain in the ass.

[@Jameskenomis3]

Totally agree about everything. The worst is the “ veteran “ who worked on vehicles but they are a VETERAN!!!!

[@theshootist9290]

It is true that people fall to 45acp hardball. But it's not the only option! LOL! 😂😂😂

[@TheZombieKillerHD]

I used to work as a car salesman and I had to leave that job partially due to the turbo salesman I understand why they do it but sometimes they actually hurt the customer instead of helping them