The Football Game That Has the Same Physics as GTA | GameDay

[@muffinmanplays8198]

I SWEAR…the only thing that killed this game was its camera angle. I literally had everything else that was important like customization, gameplay(physics),…just not the camera angle and arguably the controls. It’s really sad really we were so close to greatness.

[@Willardbeans00]

I passed up on this game multiple times n past cuz of the camera angle… I gotta be able 2 c da whole field 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@nostalgicgamer1363]

So true...the sequel was arcade

[@ohh1065]

@@Willardbeans00man you missed some real fun,the community was small on Xbox so we would pack Xbox party’s up an just play games all night. This was at a time when I still played madden religiously but backbreaker just had a unique feel to it

[@dooder6755]

I remember having backbreaker on mobile back in the day simpler times

[@IceCubE4425]

Sounds like a skill issue.

[@adjepson]

The hits look so much better than anything Madden has dont in 20 years.

[@GabeTheGrump]

As a kid I would spend hours trying to make the most brutal sack jumping into every defender.

[@WildLionGames]

Backbreaker was an awesome game. The on field experience is the better than any madden out there. Sure it was barebones but still playable today due to the physics. I love it

[@addyourplayer]

All i'm gonna say is.....14 years later and we still see new stuff in Backbreaker. You will never have the opportunity to say that about Madden.

[@herbg4866]

I think American football fans like the mediocrity that it provides

[@addyourplayer]

Well said ​@@herbg4866

[@XxgoodbudsxX]

Less mediocre than European futbol​@@herbg4866

[@romanes_eunt_domus]

​@herbg4866 I think a bigger part of it is that Madden holds exclusive licenses to real NFL teams, as well as many licensed mechanics involved in actual gameplay that make it otherwise difficult to develop alternatives. They for all intents and purposes have a monopoly on football games.

[@RusticRonnie]

@@romanes_eunt_domusthey don’t have exclusive access to teams just simulation NFL football.

[@TheSteveKinney]

Genuinely, this camera angle is what separates the men from the boys. Absolutely loved the camera angle, it was super fun to play games in a simulation environment.

[@wheelyfbaby]

These nerds never been on the other side of the football before 😂

[@mcnelisfilms]

right! I don't think the game would have the same impact with the classic god view camera

[@TheSteveKinney]

@@mcnelisfilms the only thing at ALL that makes this game lose it's luster is the limited playbook. if someone was able to hack it, add formations and plays... holy cow, it would be a blast. especially pre patch... cause the patch pulled the QB camera back quite a bit. it was fun as hell to have that chaotic close up view where you had to read the safeties within a second or two and scan the field and throw. is it hard? yes.. that's the point.

[@mcnelisfilms]

@@TheSteveKinney I have the same thoughts all the time lol. I always imagine what it could be if we just got a playbook update and lets be honest, some nicer sideline catching animations. Im always mixed on post patch and pre patch. post patch is definitely overall the better experience with the camera slightly pulled back, more formations, more plays, replay camera options. You have the ability to look back shoulder as a QB, stumble recovery while running the ball. But the gameplay in pre-patch has some really nice elements like actually being able to block a punt or FG. the deep ball is thrown better pre patch. there is a much larger disparity in player ratings in pre patch also which makes for exciting gameplay. it sucks that post patch added some nice features but you lose some fun things about the game too. I love the game, I still play it semi-regularly to this day.

[@RusticRonnie]

@@mcnelisfilmsits could have done fifa or 2k and useds a slightly zoomed out player camera. Or a broadcast camera

[@Sheppy619]

what u mean not a good game?? this game is wayyyy better then madden

[@boxerm4n]

Because it’s genuinely not a good game

[@FidoArtz]

Backbreaker Football, had something unique that EA and 2k football never had: Physic-based tackling and hits that are not always the same outcome that plays out. So if you're shooting for that in your game, you either go whole hail marry or not at all and do something like backbreaker where the hits and tackles can be different. OfCourse why not stop there? Physics should also impact the sidelines where getting a player getting tackled out of bounds full force would result in a Collison course with sideline equipment, benches, Gatorade buckets, teammates, cheerleaders, and field personnel. So far, the only game doing something like backbreaker right now is Football simulator by refactor games.

[@Rome_77]

This “physics-based” tackling looks horrible. A more developed and more complex system of realistic “motion capture” animations is the only way to go. Madden’s gameplay got sidetracked and went downhill trying to give fans “muh physics based” rag doll gameplay.

[@stephengrigg5988]

​@@Rome_77can we let the "muh *insert here*" meme die already? It's always cringe and pretty commonly used as one racial dogwhistle or another

[@merciful_poseidon]

0:05 Backbreaker was Goated but didn’t have enough “career/franchise” for longevity

[@dsi24]

The menu ambience sounding like DEFCON's ambience is crazy, was expecting the "woman sobbing" any moment after that missile launch sound.

[@saadesigner07]

I still play this game. I have no problem running the ball. It’s still a blast after all these years.

[@Maineabeast]

Idc what anyone says backbreaker was so good. Especially the gauntlet game mode. Sure it needed some tweaks, but if they kept going I'm sure they would have ironed out most of the bad stuff. It definitely could have been a legitimate competitor to madden

[@PlayerJay425]

8:18 are you not familiar with chopping your feet? It’s a basic footwork thing to help either change direction or slow down

[@Happylachia]

Something tells me this guy, Jay, here is a player

[@AdrianGuzmanOfficial]

Someone in the schoolyard: "Hey, a quarter!" Absolutely everyone in the school: 5:37

[@sanchit404]

The team selection track sounds similar to Burnout 3 crash beta sounds.

[@foof811]

not nearly as memorable as blitz: the league 1 & 2 unfortunately. Those games would've benefited so much more from this physics engine

[@GameDayonYT]

Funny enough, this was meant to be a blitz the league 2 review, but my copy isn't working and the game is really expensive online.

[@foof811]

@@GameDayonYT if only i knew how expensive they got, i would've bought more than just my 1 copy. I've played the shit out of mine but it still works.

[@acidpoptart4270]

@@GameDayonYT Emulator bro, emulator.

[@GameDayonYT]

No luck. From my experience, RPCS3 can't run it at all, and Xenia works, but still runs into a lot of issues.

[@foof811]

@@GameDayonYT you could run pcsx2 for the first one

[@TheWaifuBeater]

This is a great comfort channel

[@puffmagicgas1311]

back breaker will forever be my fav football game

[@Happylachia]

The sequel got it right. It was bold to make an entire football game with these physics, but when they simplified it to an arcade style kick return/tackle alley, it made the game so much better. Naturalmotion’s only crime was thinking outside the bun.

[@darthrevan6]

It was an interesting attempt at competing against Madden. But it's very much a barebone concept instead of a full american football game

[@PlayerJay425]

How so? It’s 11 on 11 football. I can’t remember if it had flags or not but if not that was the only knock on it.

[@Kabooooom670]

For what it was it definitely was a drastic improvement to Madden gameplay wise, if they only added camera angles and a better career mode it would have been excellent

[@megakid510]

It was just a demo for the euphoria engine wasn’t supposed to be anything special

[@STREAMSONLY-vt6gx]

​@@PlayerJay425 Only knock on it lmao. It failed as a game

[@FatTony_Football]

And yet, still better than Madden…

[@hndrxhunta]

This is such a well made video lmao, I love when people go back and visit this obscure game

[@Fernando145.4]

LMAO 8:38!!!! That was mad good!!! great video fam 👍👍👍

[@Xilekai]

Hell yeah new GameDay upload.

[@Dorianv96]

I wish we would have gotten backbreaker 2 because the game so much potential that sequel would have fixed alot of issue in my opinion. The camera angle didnt bother but i know others it did. So the sequel could have given more camera angle options and probably tweaked controls to fill more natural like the physics it was building on

[@helicopterk3n708]

We Did… It’s Called Backbreaker Vengeance.

[@Dorianv96]

@@helicopterk3n708 we don't speak about BBV 💀

[@cynoflads]

only in back breaker you can live the day to day life of a GTA 4 NPC

[@cynoflads]

@@DonnellKane ?

[@Mateus_Carvalho]

Backbreaker looks like the concept of having a gridiron game done in that engine and... that's about it. Sadly undercooked.

[@stephengrigg5988]

Well yeah, it was basically a tech demo for the GTA engine

[@Jack_Assin]

I know I’m a little late to this video, but I just wanna throw in a little bit of my childhood. I only played the demo of this game, but I did own Backbreaker Vengeance, which had same game physics and everything, just you’re not playing full team games. It basically was just the tackle alley on steroids and they did it VERY well. It was a much more enjoyable experience as you weren’t taking it nearly as seriously and it was much easier to play. You could also play on the defensive and tackle the ball carrier cpu that had their own gauntlets. Oh ya, and you can play it with your friends! There are a ton of different levels and experiences, I can’t explain how many hours I spent replaying different levels because the different outcomes from tackles due to the physics engine. It also had a replay system so you could see the madness unfold from a better view. Shoutout to anyone whose played it themselves ✊🏻 you a real one

[@ronkie15]

8:09 idk if you ever played football but it’s called chopping your feet and it’s a real technique

[@Jigardo]

I feel like it was usually followed up with a juke or cut, and it helped me a lot when running an in/out route. Kind of crazy, this dude seems like a big football fan, but has never seen or heard of this move before

[@ronkie15]

I played defense and all i know is if you not chopping before you go for a tackle you doing suicides and burpees till you vomit up your spleen or sum internal organ💀

[@ronkie15]

@@Jigardo Blud talm bout twinkle toes that’s how ik he doesn’t have actual experience in pads and a helmet😭

[@STREAMSONLY-vt6gx]

Well yeah no sh1t it's a real thing in football, but you don't do that all the time. Especially when slowing down to a jog. Mostly when running routes and making people miss.

[@ronkie15]

@@STREAMSONLY-vt6gx jeez you found out the neighbors plowing your wife this morning?💀 i didn’t say every one had to do it every time that’s just what my coach wanted my team to do every time every time we went in for a tackle

[@MercilessMe]

the "music" sounds like a football fever dream lmao

[@Happylachia]

Brought back that feeling of hearing the music being played in the stadium from the locker room

[@cashismack1885]

I used to hurdle right before being tackled every time, the results were hilarious more often than not. If you played it for ages and aced the controls and camera stuff it was actually really fun👍

[@ETG715]

Man that's crazy. Imagine if GameDay ended up making a Final Boss in sports games tier list and he mostly ranked them based off of how hard they are because I know that the BFR from facebreaker and Isaac from fight night championship are in S Tier

[@GameDayonYT]

Interesting idea!

[@SPARTANRTJ1]

How can we play this masterpiece again?

[@Caffeinated-DaVinci]

This is the only sports game I own (that isn't based around motorsports) and I bought it solely because of the physics engine. I was OBSESSED with physics games when I was a kid and the Euphoria engine was the best I'd ever seen. I spent at least 250 hours on the Endorphin physics animation tool Natural Motion (the people who make the Euphoria engine) made. I followed the development of every single game that planned on using the Euphoria engine, Force Unleashed 1 & 2 were the best because they combined it with the DMM system for prop material physics, I followed GTA 4 like crazy, that unreleased Indiana Jones game that used Euphoria looked awesome, RDR1 and Backbreaker. To-date the ONLY game to get me even slightly interested in sports, all because I love the tackle physics, I still play it sometimes.

[@Vinny_VHS]

No wonder I always loved playing this demo all the time. I LOVED running into the pole or sliding into the end zone to make the character run into the pole after standing up from the slide. Quite fun.

[@swiftboyp]

Physics way better than Madden 2024

[@AZ-lo2cc]

Why is the menu music so oddly unsettling lol

[@Semaj97]

I loved this game, really miss these days. PS3 was the last console where developers would be trying new things

[@vinegro4579]

As a person who has never liked sports games and doesn't even know anything about football in general, I absolutely loved Backbreaker and would play the demo nonstop until I bought the game.

[@Logjambam]

I'll never understand how this game got through QA. There is a lot of good there but it is wrapped up so poorly that anything other than creating massive collisions is unreasonably frustrating

[@DamonWalters-cu4kc]

I play this game to this day. If you have a pc you can absolutely play again just download an emulator

[@gimlet7]

You said you don't think Backbreaker knows what it wants to be. But from everything I've seen in the video it doesn't seem like you know what Backbreaker actually is.

[@sethgaston8347]

I played back breaker on my phone alot back in the day, good time for like a week

[@griffinseagle]

I appreciate the bully soundtrack music in this video

[@BeembusCheembus61]

I loved this game, it felt so real like i was really quarterbacking or running a route.

[@danielsmokesmids]

i always wanted to play this game but never got a chance to

[@jt3production936]

The physics of this game make all the world Difference and just set a standard for physics in a contact sports game apply these to the next basketball game too and watch the movement be even more fluid

[@Bill_the_Redneck]

The game was fun. For a little bit. At least it was something different. I loved Boom playing during every kickoff.

[@dhughes1392]

I am not into football games because copy and paste but if this was remade in 2024 id play it.

[@pp3k3jamail]

💥💥 I had this game back in 2010, i enjoyed it. I remember a lot of people complaining about the passing I actually like the passing on this game and didn't have a problem figuring it out it was easy to me. The logo Creator on this game was crazy you could make any logo. In fact since I still got my my black Xbox 360 and it works perfectly fine, I'm going to buy this game backbreaker again. I shouldn't have never got rid of it the first time when I traded it in 2012.

[@Nargaroth]

Love your vids man!

[@deonlepharaoh]

To be fair, on that last play, what's ruled a catch in backbreaker doesn't have to mirror nfl rules....especially since whats ruled a catch in the nfl has changes multiple time since the turn of the century. You can definitely find plenty of catches throughout history that didn't see the receiver maintain possession.

[@barmeloxanthony749]

At the iphone 5 release,, naturalmotion unveiled clumsy ninja which also uses the euphoria engine.

[@thomassheets8897]

It’s honestly such a fun game, I played skate so the mechanics came naturally but after that hump I felt it had the room to be groundbreaking. Unfortunately because of the lack of personal gameplay customization all the pretty things felt more like being handed a jar of candy with no way to open it

[@de132]

I was like "didn't you do this before" lol

[@H8Magnet]

Yeah I mean EA did do some of this stuff but it's random and not added to year after year. They used to jump and deflect passes, I still do as a user when I play dline in franchise. EA embraced animations, and they went crazy with them, locking us in to these for the sake of looking good in a trailer.

[@NegativeProcess]

I think i played this game as a kid and loved it 😂. Even now it looks fun af while you showcase it

[@HBK_Mook]

The menu music used to spook me as a kid, but it didn’t when I played the PayDay Games.

[@SundayNightGames]

yet id take this over madden lol used to love this game! also not gta physics.. also take ya channel name out the title man lmao menu music is little weird but still kinda fire too.. goat game tho wish they’d make a new one!

[@therealphilly7392]

This game was too fricken tough .. man I hated that camera angle but still loved it

[@gamerk316]

Backbreaker was sadly done in by poor design decisions, as the underlying gameplay is actually quite solid. But you actively have to fight the game design to get anything out of it.

[@jacekatalakis8316]

Once the Greathouse patch hit, it fixed went from this is good but easy to exploit to this is good and tightened up a good chunk of the bugs and is actually realy decent I wish we'd have got Backbreaker 2 as a full fledged game though, not just the tackle alley stuff which was fun but not 11 on 11 gridron. Some mad lad on the forums if I am remembering it right had the Last Supper painting in the endzone or something as insanely detailed, which was mind blowing then, and now. I bought it from a shop in Germany that sold PS3 games and always liked running with the lesser rated teams. Returning a kick or punt was a ton of fun in this as was having a good run and it made you think, not just spam sprint ike in other games. It had actual football physics and IQ once, again, the Greathouse patch hit. Plus the stadiums were absolutely nuts, I think they went what if Jerry Jones took all the drugs and redesigned Jerryworld...and we got monstrosities like that seven deck stadium, because that's a thingthe

[@rhandalbumbalough7403]

This was one of the first games I ever bought for my Xbox 360 when I finally had enough money to get one from a pawn shop. I still think they could do this game today with the updated physics engine

[@JM-44-]

Piss Aura is crazy😂

[@toweringhorse2054]

I still have really fond memories of this game

[@cmspearit4850]

Bro tripping this game was fun asf besides the camera angle I enjoyed it

[@KJ_Jizzle]

I quit playing backbreaker after I hit the QB and as he is falling the ball left his hand as if he threw it and the receiver caught a flying "fumble"

[@adot9300]

I loved game day back in the dayyyy

[@gixxerbrah4100]

if Madden tried something like this with THEIR funding, it could be amazing

[@BzaafiedTheYatagarasu]

I loved Backbreaker to death but the best part of it was the KZbin War between Gideon Prime(TruthChaserz) and Verzus regarding their opinions on this game.

[@tyler705er]

thought you had way more subs, blow up very soon to come Definitely earned yourself a new sub

[@buck_wild_spr1916]

I loved this game it was actually pretty good in my opinion if you did a franchise mode you had to draft/scout well which made the game strategically better.

[@marvinflowers7945]

Madden should have had these angles 2ksports difenitly would have had physics an angles if they made a NFL game by now

[@shpidermonky6443]

I remember when this came out i understood as a kid how licenced games suck. With no competition we get the same shit games year after year.

[@Eliyah-EliyahuYahudah]

I remember seeing this video game at GameStop back in 2011.

[@amersalaka1764]

This is the greatest football game i've ever seen

[@MonsterMacs]

I would invite my friends over to play the 2 player tackle alley and we would try to see who would win while also trying to tackle each other. If you failed when your friend was still going on a level, you could become a defender and try to hit your friend. Same thing if you scored before them.

[@the_illest7029]

I played this mobile game or at least a version of it. i never knew it had a console version because the mobile version i played was called fanatical football

[@itzoniichacha5963]

the menu sounds is hilarious man 😂

[@markula_4040]

You complained about the camera angles but what about 2 players? You didn't even cover that.

[@mojojoji5493]

The conspiracy theory about the menu ambiance music is it’s suppose to represent cte

[@soonerferg]

Most cursed sports game menu sound

[@herbertpocket8855]

Oh man the slowing down is great

[@Eno22921]

the best way to summarize this game to my friends when id show them it is that it does what madden does poorly very well but everything else madden did well it did not. ultimately passing being as it was it was literally a throwback to madden 09 with the cone to throw it to a receiver. but clearly madden strayed away cuz it wasnt a good idea

[@justinhicks7814]

Dude I had back breaker on my iPod. Great times on road trips.

[@93DeeLocGaming]

used to love playing that demo with my bro on the xbox 360

[@FOA89019]

Here comes the boom

[@Moontorc_]

As someone who has no interest in American football or the games at all, this game (well, the demo) on Xbox 360 was so damn fun.

[@xpowderparsons3786]

I followed this game before it was out bought it on release date and played it for forever I chose this over madden if you got a good clean hit it was very satisfying lol. The mini games you could play were probably the best experience for the game because the actual games had their own bugs like trying a run play and bumping into your own team and falling down a lot. Other than that this game was awesome and had lots of potential.

[@erv.7663]

The Tackling looks good tbh

[@taddersauce3672]

Damn. I remember playing backbreaker mobile back on like the 1st ipad. Pretty fun.

[@MrMRMONKEY232]

Neve4 cared for the full game back breaker but back breaker vengence were your doing drills essentially tackling or dodging defenders was and is top tier arcade fun

[@ashtong8627]

I loved backbreaker vengeance it was my absolute favorite

[@endymallorn]

WTAF are you doing playing as the East Rutherford teams?

[@ukunboxings2242]

Loved Backbreaker, Madden might have the graphics but this had the much better physics and still does. Only thing I wasn't a fan of was the camera angle for Backbreaker.

[@TyVondrake]

If cte was a sound it would be the menu screen music of this game

[@armykid891]

I used to want this game so bad now it’s discontinued 😞 I’ve only played the mobile version and demo

[@tyler705er]

loved the bully music btw!!!

[@shminishmeat]

Great video brother

[@tylertheshark2494]

Backbreaker’s IOS game was so fun dude

[@Coach_Chris101]

They need to make a newer version of this. Can't even play on XBSX wtfff