The Forgotten Phases of the Sirehound

[@The78thCreator]

If you compare the size of the ancient sirehound to an adult human, then it is the size of a puppy

[@Blowtorchturtle27]

And Bulborbs are as big as lemons

[@The78thCreator]

@@Blowtorchturtle27 bulborb is the the size of lemon seed

[@Blowtorchturtle27]

@@The78thCreator nah, I’m pretty sure there as big as lemons, or larger

[@The78thCreator]

@@Blowtorchturtle27 I mean dwarf bulborbs

[@Blowtorchturtle27]

@@The78thCreator ohhh

[@pavret4663]

I think it's one of my favorite videos you made The concept, the ideas, the drawing... Everything is amazing!

[@cometcartoons8528]

To be fair, having to deal with almost 8 phases is way too much for a final boss. Plus I feel like they tried to go with the more deadlier phases minus ice. Water, Poison, and Crystal wouldn’t be as difficult if you just stuck with their respective pikmin.

[@Invizeron]

Yeah I wouldn't expect (or like) an 8 phase boss fight, it was mainly just the concept of it having all elements

[@ridjenite]

Wild Arms 3, with its ten phase final boss, enters the chat.

[@Kiki-w4p3u]

nah it'd be fun

[@LUCAS-yw5kd]

It could have around 6 phases, and they are randomly chosen (execpt for the first and final phase, wich would still be basic/normal and gloom)

[@StarlightNkyra]

I think it would make a wonderful secret boss fight. Tediously difficult and challenging, but SUPER rewarding (intrinsic or extrinsically) boss fights are sadly becoming something of a lost breed.

[@ASM-99]

Ah yes, the legendary Pikmin game files

[@tempinveir6234]

honestly surprised there was no water or poison phase. you'd think at the end of a cave recommending Blue and Whites they would add it in, but I guess it would be too easy with a mass amount of them. cool drawing btw

[@Mirawaru]

Each phase is based upon each of the standard pikmin types except the 3 you are recomended to use in the cave (being purple, blue and white) The first phase mainly kills with crushing, wich rock pikmin is useful against The other 3 phases are yellow red and ice obviously And the last phase is for winged pikmin, as they can fly over the gloom and charge it tail when flying

[@cometcartoons8528]

Winged pikmin can’t hover over the gloom puddles. I’ve tried.

[@porkhill6665]

Glowmin

[@cometcartoons8528]

@@porkhill6665 Yeah those guys aren't immune either. Just like how the glowmob can stun every enemy including bosses, the gloom effect can instakill all types of pikmin that's why only two enemies have that ability.

[@ASM-99]

What if the sirehound floods the map so you have to ride on Oatchi and can only use blues

[@yetravellingsonc8372]

For the water phase I'd actually take a note from Namielle from Monster Hunter-- like you mention it creates puddles with its stomp attacks, but to make things interesting these puddles act differently from the usual puddles, actively splashing outwards in wave patterns from the dog's location as it jumps around. For its big attack, it sticks its snout into the ground and conjures multiple geysers from each puddle, leaving only thin pathways of dry land to stand in as you go for its tail.

[@cometcartoons8528]

I actually came up with something interesting for the water phase. The first attack it’ll send a widespread attack of bubbles. Any pikmin not released in time will then get inhaled by Sirehound and eaten. Then the second attack, it‘ll stomp the ground which will cause a bunch of geysers creating a water maze. If you manage to get through the water maze, you can attack the tail. The mazes will get harder the more damage you do. Plus the geyser will push you and oatchi back so you can’t just go through them with blue pikmin and Oatchi.

[@Manny4Life948]

Not the most interesting ideas (you still did very well though) Here is my ideas for the missing types: Rocks: I feel like the first phase already covers rocks in a way, since it’s a lot of crushing hazards that they are completely fine by (maybe cover the tail in crystals idk) Winged: same case with rocks, wings can fly over the gloom (I think since they can do it with other hazards it shoots) and are the most ideal for bringing it down in the final phase (besides purples for some reason) Blue: summons geysers that quickly start flooding the area with water and will start sending waves to throw you and your pikmin off Oatchi (you have to fight under the water with your blues and glows while the dog keeps the other types safe) it will also occasionally jump and try to crush you and your dog, once you bring down its tail (done by grabbing its tail after it tries to jump on you) the water will disappear momentarily for every type to attack. Poison: gas starts flowing out of the sirehound and leaves a poison cloud wherever he steps (he also becomes immune to white pikmin poison) he will constantly be trying to eat and ram your Pikmin in this phase which leaves a lot of trails of poison that only whites can handle, sometimes he’ll stop and go to the middle to rapidly spin and spit out puddles of poison (similar to that one purple rabbit in Mario Odyssey) which this is also the moment to try to grab its tail and attack.

[@GIGACAT573]

Maybe for the water phase, he gets all soggy and shake of water drops like the titan dweevil ?

[@Invizeron]

Thats a solid idea

[@PikminFAN704V2]

I think water would been when sirehound stomps three parts of the ground open up and start spewing out water like the geysers... only its 10x bigger.

[@RottenAvocado3]

I think for water the sire hound shakes splashing water all around the field, proving deadly to wandering Pikmin

[@boxylemons7961]

“Pikmin 5 in 2038” Hearing that at the end gives me pain

[@Beardash123]

Same

[@The78thCreator]

@@boxylemons7961 same as well

[@ExGanonMain]

The “Poison and Winged Sirehound” forms are already in place when he has the Gloom power. And the reason why every other type wasn’t put in is because Nintendo was using elements as attacks for the Ancient Sirehound. But still great concepts!

[@cardboard-boxgames9308]

this is a really cool video but I feel like by title-ing it as if they were a bunch of scrapped ideas with half implemented code was a bad idea. I can't help but leave with a feeling of 'man I was really looking forward to hearing about the forgotten phases' rather than 'man I really loved seeing all those new ideas for phases' . It's maybe nitpick but I feel like I would still have clicked on a video called something like "I added 4 new phases to the sire hound fight" and I would've left just thinking about how cool everything was rather than being disappointed. I do think the actual video itself was really great though, I want to make that clear. I thought you had some cool ideas and I think your VoiceOver and your editing and everything was all really good

[@Beardash123]

I think they didn’t add these so the player doesn’t get overwhelmed or having to leave to add some pikmin for one specific part

[@Klyxlik]

Deflowering, squishing, reflowering, explosions & getting eaten are all elemental attacks (:

[@photonic083]

Thank you!

[@ASM-99]

7:50 a game theory

[@Bloom8182]

Why 3 comments bruh 😭

[@ASM-99]

Because it wouldn’t make any sense if they were together

[@frowner_and_co]

The 2 captains idea doesn't really fit with the game, so i think a hole in the wall poison attack would be better.

[@Invizeron]

That could work as well

[@JesusMartinez-rr2ry]

But absolutely nothing more chilling and unforgivable than anyone who reminds people who subscribe by showing the percentage of people who aren't subscribed.

[@LawCJ]

Im so sad flying and rock pikmin from pikmin 3 aren’t used in the final boss fight. I like them a lot (although I like every pikmin type). Pikmin 3 was the first game I played out of the series. But I think they had reasons of course.

[@Boss-mw1jv]

Idea for the crystal phase. what if the sirehound rolled up into a crystal ball and chased you around and you had to bait it into a wall. Making the crystal walls drop down and then you bait it into those

[@CYBERSFM]

0:58 - 1:28 I AM DYING HAHAHAHAAHA

[@ngtszwaianson5352]

Blackmail them to add this to a dlc

[@AxelCourtecuisse]

For water u could have made an moment when e jumps it makes some Platforms and water starts going up u need to be on a platform

[@OrlandoBrown-ut2ci]

what about the heavy(purple phase) and maybe even bulbmin?

[@sakethkankanala7923]

Almost LOST MEDIA

[@thedoglovinggamer5825]

Since the Puffmin and Bulbmin are mostly programmed in the game files is it possible to mod them into the game with some added work?

[@Invizeron]

Yeah you could mod them in. Bulbmin would be pretty easy since you could just take a Pikmin prefab and make a couple changes to add immunity to most types. Puffin would be a model change and behavioral change as well but the attributes of the converted type would remain the same.

[@GIitchMin]

bro forgot about bubble hazard… I am highly disappointed in you.

[@The78thCreator]

Piking 5 2038 what pin in is going to be added ?

[@Invizeron]

probably an orange pikmin

[@The78thCreator]

@@Invizeron Ah shoot, misspelled pikmin

[@frankus321]

The last report in the japanese site is up..and is weird

[@bulbakurb2385]

For water ya shoulda just used its slobber

[@CrystalSquid14]

YOU CAN DESTROY THE ORBS??

[@cometcartoons8528]

Yeah if you throw yellow pikmin on the yellow furballs, and red pikmin on the flaming orbs, they can destroy them without creating a shockwave. 4 pikmin can destroy one fast.

[@The78thCreator]

Hello

[@Invizeron]

hi

[@The78thCreator]

@@Invizeron when are you going to stream only oatchi again

[@Invizeron]

maybe on friday, not sure. I've just haven't farmed the 2.5k raw material I need to beat the sirehound and the farm is going to take around 12 hours of actively running to the same raw material hole (which I dont want to do but have to). I want to finish the run before Mid-August so I'll have to do it pretty soon.

[@The78thCreator]

@@Invizeron okay, (:

[@octoguygmod]

ngl I found the sirehound really easy. Maybe it was because I just turned my brain off and beat its ass

[@Invizeron]

Its a fairly easy fight overall.

[@Ax3lBlu3]

The Sirehound IS the WORST final boss by far, even if Pikmin 4 IS the best Game in the franchise

[@AnAveragePurplePikmin]

I personally don't like the Emporer Bulblax cause he is quite easy if you know what your doing.

[@Ax3lBlu3]

@@AnAveragePurplePikmin It was made 23 YEARS ago, but even ignoring that sitill a good bossfight, not only the fight, also the concept and idea

[@AnAveragePurplePikmin]

@@Ax3lBlu3 That is true, for the time the games impressive in many aspects and is quite the challenge if you simply spam your pikmin which is good design. It is still an alright fights but I think later games simply do the final fight better even Hey Pikmins fight was pretty good despite the game being garbage.

[@Ax3lBlu3]

@@AnAveragePurplePikmin hey pikmin IS a good Game but ...i prefer dont Talk about Its final boss💀 (Pd: i didnt count It at the time of writing my comentary(

[@AnAveragePurplePikmin]

@@Ax3lBlu3 So it seems the conclusion of our argument is that the SireHoubd I the second wost Final Boss. Correct?