The Forgotten Treaty of Bucharest

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Many know about Russia's final days of World War I, but what about Romania's final days?
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CORRECTION:
It was the Bolsheviks who signed Brest-Litovsk, not Kerensky. Also ignore the type that says 1917 not 1918.
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[@EmperorTigerstar]

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[@quakeknight9680]

Our Democracy is under a treat!!!

[@firstnamelastname1011]

Will you do a change in the map video on the Israel Lebanon deal or does that series not include maritime borders?

[@Kamalean]

of course

[@robertjarman3703]

I would argue Germany´s best chance was at the beginning with the battle of the Marnes, not in 1917 or 1918. Germany went a lot of places in March 1918, but do you think France would have given up in 1918 without casualties being on the order of at least one million more than the Entente actually took in that month?

[@ilyaslebleu1947]

Small error at 0:21 - the treaty of Brest-Litovsk was signed on March 3, 1918 by the Bolsheviks, not on March 3, 1917 by the Kerensky government! Amazing video nonetheless!

[@cursedterra]

Romania was so powerful that germany surrendered 1 day after they re-entered the war

[@Isaaac165]

I wouldn’t want to fight such a poweful country, either.

[@violetlatner6366]

Our of curiosity, are you actually Frisian? Do you speak the language? What type of efforts are there to preserve the language? Are you an independentist?

[@cursedterra]

@@violetlatner6366 yes, yes, idk, yes

[@Argacyan]

@@violetlatner6366 In Germany Frisian has minority status with everything that entails. In the Netherlands it's an official language in Frisia, however afaik not for the 2 provinces east of it which also contain Frisian.

[@childeryeeter4202]

@@cursedterra wait there is a Frisian independence movement? Cool

[@morbidsearch]

Another layer of irony is that Bulgaria eventually gained Southern Dobruja after World War II despite being on the losing side

[@krisp1871]

guess its because Romania also was on the losing side

[@iGamezRo]

After WW2 Romania was allowed to get Northern Transylvania back because we switched sides. Even if it was technically "liberated" and under Romanian control, it was in practice administered by the Red Army. Getting Northern Transylvania back was the only thing that Romania gained from WW2. We were even denied Allied Co-Belligerent status.

[@deleetiusproductions3497]

Yeah, Bulgaria gained Southern Dobruja before joining the war, then switched sides (insert overused Italy joke here) at around the same time as Bulgaria. Hungary, however, remained in the Axis, hence why Romania has all of Transylvania today.

[@iGamezRo]

@@deleetiusproductions3497 hungary, more specifically horthy did ask for an armistice for the soviets but when the germans found out they replaced him with a puppet government.

[@kellenjervis2632]

Bulgaria never declared war on the Soviets (but the British and Americans). In September 1944 with the advancing Red Army they had a communist coup leading to an armistice with the Allies and Bulgaria switching sides. But, as the other two (or three, including Finland) nations, Italy and Romania, who declared war on Germany following armistices with the Allied powers, they lost all occupied land and land gained after WW1 due to the Paris Treaties of 1947. Bulgaria was seen as the most sympathetic to the Allies as it never declared war on Stalin. However, it came at the cost of remaining a Soviet puppet state, until 1990.

[@Espingol]

You made a mistake in the beginning. It was the Bolsheviks that made peace with the Central Powers, not Kerensky

[@Mimi.1001]

Yeah, in fact, the provisional government under Kerensky *not* making peace was probably the major driving factor for the continued rise of the Bolsheviks and the outbreak of the October Revolution.

[@Pawlakov1]

yeah, that's a pretty major mistake

[@EmperorTigerstar]

You're right, my bad!

[@robertjarman3703]

@@EmperorTigerstar You also said March 1917 when you meant march 1918.

[@acw7075]

Not only that, but Kerensky wasn’t even in office yet on March 3, 1917. That was before the tsar even abdicated.

[@EmperorTigerstar]

As pointed out, it was the Bolsheviks who signed Brest-Litovsk, not Kerensky. Not sure why I made that silly mistake.

[@arturcannings69]

Estonian War of Independence Now? Come on, I've been silent for years dude...

[@cmr_0333]

@@arturcannings69 More like “German War of Independence for Estonia”

[@cmr_0333]

@@arturcannings69 Come on, Baltics were used for only one single purpose: don’t let the communists go west

[@emmetjames2482]

It's okay. We forgive you

[@lucinae8510]

I believed that as well, for some reason I thought the treaty was a contributing factor for the Bolsheviks rise to power.

[@georgestefan1698]

Here in Romania, they do actually teach this treaty in school, and if you take your final school exam in history, its important to learn about it . We actually learn more about Romania in ww1 than ww2

[@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500]

Hmmm, I wonder why...

[@andreikovacs3476]

@@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500 since it falls at the end of the year WW1 Romanian curriculum: Balkan Wars(preamble to WW1) Conflict of interest(preamble to joining in 1916) Disaster of Turtucaia and last ditch effort at Marasesti Counteroffensive to liberate Transylvania WW2 Romanian curriculum Preamble(getting chopped up by surrounding nations) Getting invaded and destroyed by USSR WW2 curriculum in Romania glosses over the real preamble(romanian economic crisis and pro-Allied stance), glosses over the specifics of the USSR offensive(siege of Odessa, siege of Sevastopol, battle of the Don Bend, Stalingrad, Kerch), glosses over the specifics of post-switch battles and over the specifics of 'sovietisation' Why? It's taught in the last weeks; after which there's 2 weeks left to teach cold war and contemporary history(plus last few weeks of history class aren't taken seriously because students prepare for final exam) You chop up 2000 years of history to be taught in only one year; you gonna have lots of details left out. Plus WW1 was more important to Romania than WW2 was

[@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500]

@@andreikovacs3476 damn, maybe they shouldnt teach 2000 years of history in a single year but yeh that explains it thanks

[@andreikovacs3476]

@@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500 Not much of a choice I think. Of 4 years of cycle: First year teaches universal history from 5000BC to 413AD Second year teaches universal history from 413AD to 1776 AD Third year teaches universal history from 1776 AD to present day Fourth year teaches specifically Romanian history from 85 BC to present day. If we were a young nation; perhaps one year would be enough but this way it sucks. There's a debate recently for more history classes but eh; we'll see

[@nacelnikprosiak1260]

damn can't belive romanian history is taught in romanian schools... crazy...

[@wallachia4797]

Something to note here is that King Ferdinand of Romania never ratified the treaty, which means that Germany had to keep a constant garrison of some 500.000 men tied on Romania's borders just to make sure nothing happened. Needless to say, this took a bite out of those "5 months of extra fighting" that Germany won.

[@iGamezRo]

In Romania, the treaty is seen as never having been lawful and Romania never actually having ended the war. King Ferdinand refused to give royal assent, which was needed for any law to become, well, a law and any treaty to be ratified. Basically, the PM signed it, but the King refused to accept it, which put it in limbo, not being able to be legally ratified by the Romanian State.

[@ISCARIOTSHIELD]

Still it was official in every other way. Romania entered the war and ended up losing

[@DukeOfTheYard]

​@@ISCARIOTSHIELDNo. A treaty is either entered into force or it isn't. This one was not.

[@ISCARIOTSHIELD]

@@DukeOfTheYard have you heard of the phrase “vae victis”?

[@DukeOfTheYard]

​@@ISCARIOTSHIELDOf course I've heard of it. Luckily, at the end of the war Romania was on the winning side.

[@EuropeanFella]

As a Romanian living in Bucharest, I can confirm nobody remembers this treaty.

[@stephmod7434]

How many wallets did you steall today?

[@zuraorokamono204]

@@stephmod7434 How many slices of bread did you eat in your life?

[@romanianball8252]

@@stephmod7434 I bet you thought vampires were a real thing when you were a kid.

[@KinnyRiddle]

@@stephmod7434 How many accounts did you go through after getting banned for such racist rhetoric?

[@akimgranada7239]

@@stephmod7434 Pretty blunt to joke about Romanian stealing crap when you stole a joke that has been used 1000 times by now

[@lamnaa]

Crazy to imagine German getting all of Romania's oil until 2008.

[@irenaveksler1935]

What? I am confused

[@anewviewer6686]

​@@irenaveksler1935 The oil wells were going to be given to Germany for 99 years.

[@irenaveksler1935]

@@anewviewer6686 Ah. If Germany won yes

[@anewviewer6686]

@@irenaveksler1935 that is what the treaty of Bucharest stipulated among other things.

[@irenaveksler1935]

@@anewviewer6686 oky

[@narva5440]

The treaty of Brest-Litovsk was signed on March 3, 1918 not 1917 crucially not by the Kerensky government but by the Bolsheviks. Kerensky never made peace which was a big factor why the Bolsheviks gained enough support to overthrow the government.

[@-Kc1937-]

True but it wasn't entirely because of that, the provisional government essentially relied on the Bolsheviks to defend them from an attack from Denikin who was a rogue russian general who wanted to install a dictatorship in Russia by marching on Petrograd however when he marched on Petrograd his troops had mostly deserted him leading to the Bolsheviks repelling the weakened army. So yes it didn't help and made him unpopular with the majority of the population but it was equally as important as other factors.

[@overdriveoutershaxson1837]

Romania just spawned into WW1 and got spawn camped

[@compatriot852]

The inter war period and late ww1 definitely is an interesting period where a lot of changes occurred or could have across Europe. It definitely needs more attention

[@fullcirclehistory]

That's interesting. I was unaware that Bulgaria eventually annexed all of Dubroja for a few days, because I don't think you showed it in your "WW1 every day" video which I have rewatched countless times 😅

[@jonkeuviuhc1641]

Well the thing is that everything related to this treaty enters in the tehnically this or that category. The video doesn't mentione it, but the treaty wasn't ever ratified by the Romanian King, so tehnically they never agreed to it, so tehnically it was disputed territory for those days.

[@fullcirclehistory]

@@jonkeuviuhc1641 Yeah it would have been disputed territory, but Tigerstar’s maps generally show the de facto situation, so I’d assume his WW1 map should show Bulgaria’s de facto annexation of the land.

[@nicholascole9673]

Something not often talked about is that the treaty of brest-litovsk was as harsh as it was because the Communist were dragging their feet at negotiations and the Germans (probably rightly) assumed they were hoping Germany would lose on the western front before negotiations ended and thus wouldn't have to honour anything, this caused the Germans to launch a new offensive and demand more land.

[@Tanu.90]

I follow you for a long time, never thought you will do a video specifically on my country. Thank you! 🇷🇴

[@duskpede5146]

there’s only so many countries in the world he was gonna get to it at some point

[@cerebrummaximus3762]

Love to Romania, from Bulgaria!

[@Tanu.90]

@@cerebrummaximus3762 It's so funny! I just wrote you a comment seconds ago on another channel 🤣! Thanks, I appreciate your comment bulgarian friend!😊

[@cerebrummaximus3762]

@@Tanu.90 I just read your comment! Thanks for the reply :)

[@CraftsmanOfAwsomenes]

Romania getting Bessarabia did result in the Soviets demanding the territory prior to the USSR’s entrance into WW2 which is something.

[@alexandrub8786]

Also North Bukovina and Hertza that are now owned by Ukraine.

[@BromTeque]

I believe there’s a "fun-fact" that goes something like: Bulgaria was the only Axis power to have increased in size post-war compared to pre-war, with them again gaining control of southern dobruja.

[@georgios_5342]

Technically, Yugoslavia joined the Nazis for one day, before an allied coup d'etat took over the country, lost in 15 days, but then the Yugoslavian separatists won back their independence and gained land.

[@BromTeque]

@@georgios_5342 Per the Paris peace treaties definition of the Axis*

[@attilatasciko4817]

Dobruza was allways Bulgarian terrytory !!!

[@cristiii7605]

@@attilatasciko4817 no

[@hammer3721]

@@attilatasciko4817 Nope.

[@gavriloprincip5683]

Treatry of Brest-Litovsk was signed not by Kerensky, but by Bolsheviks. It was March 3rd 1918. Kerensky did meet internal challanges during 1917 (before Civil War), but he insisted on keeping fighting because he new that Central Powers were on a way to collapse and Russia should on the winning side

[@NunyaMcBusiness]

Thank you for these obscure moments of history!

[@breaderikthegreat3224]

I like that you Posted this on November 11th

[@Kevin63GachaandGMOD]

I always wondered why Bulgaria had not obtained the north of Dobruja and I said to myself that they had given up because they found that it was too severe for Romania or that the other countries of the central empires were not disagree. I also found it strange that the north of Dobruja belongs to Bulgaria in alternative scenarios like Kaiserreich or Weltreich when in reality it proves that those who made these alternative scenarios are very knowledgeable about the First World War.

[@alexandrub8786]

I am pretty sure they did an "understanding"(romanian term) in Craiova were they got the south and Romania kept the north,the other option was Axis arbitration which Hungary did in the second Wienna award. Sidenote:Romania originally offered border lands to Hungary at start but the Hungarian side refused because it was not enough.

[@Kevin63GachaandGMOD]

@@alexandrub8786 Maybe but apparently later Germany, Austria-Hungary agreed that Bulgaria should get the north of Dobruja and the Otooman Empire agreed but wanted Bulgaria to give it some pieces of territory in exchange on the Bulgarian border. Surely to increase the chances of protecting Constantinople from a war against Greece or Bulgaria if it's two countries that go to war later but maybe also because there were Turkish minorities in the territories of Bulgaria which are at the border of the Ottoman Empire.

[@thebandofbastards4934]

It may also been the fact that the bulgarian elites would have like to a keep a certain distance from Russia.

[@Kevin63GachaandGMOD]

@@thebandofbastards4934 It may be possible.

[@SuperCrow02]

Because Bulgaria won in those scenarios?

[@lampionmancz]

The timing of this release was perfect. The video released literally minutes from when I capitulated Romania while playing as Bulgaria in HOI4. The fact that the treaty was called the treaty of Bucharest was just icing on the cake.

[@cerebrummaximus3762]

Also, it's almost like a Remembrance day special

[@ceoofuzbekistan4025]

crazy gaming moment

[@Kamalean]

i always found this treaty unique from the others

[@xanthosparashis8819]

Basically 🇷🇴 in WWI snatched her victory from the jaws of defeat.

[@mahari893]

*Was in the stomach being digested before the entente punched the central powers in the gut forcing the half-digested Romanians to get vomited out lmaoooo

[@BuRsTiNxMLB]

@@mahari893 the best description 😂😂😂

[@caerdroia7530]

The Treaty of Brest-Litovsk was signed on the 3rd of March 1918, not 1917. It was signed by the Bolsheviks and not the Kerensky government as that had been deposed in November the previous year.

[@RoboEyeglass101]

thx 4 going over this

[@jonathancurran5366]

You say the treaty of Brest-Litosk was in 1918 when you have 1917 on the screen.

[@acg1970]

Excelente documental de un tratado bien poco conocido. Gracias

[@Bobogdan258]

As a Romanian thanks for the wallet sponsorship. Now I can steal wallets and metal at the same time :)

[@cristiii7605]

Lol

[@decades1912]

Yes I love talking about post-Crimean War politics

[@not_averge]

It wasn't forgotten the french brought it up at the treaty of Versailles.

[@Tribune_of_Italia]

Are you going to cover the Tigray War anytime soon? I only just now learned that it sort of ended a couple weeks ago.

[@ThePrimePlaya]

Thanks for making this interesting video. I am an academic historian of the Romanian interwar period. Of course, it is not the type of videos you make, but there were serious ramifications internally due to the treaty and the collaborationist Conservative Party, which the Germans placed in power. The actions taken by the conservative government during the either months of greatly altered the decades to come by ensuring the death of the conservative movement, which left a political void that never really healed. Moreover, before the National Liberals were ousted by the Germans, they had begun debating a massive land reform package during the course of the war, fearing peasant unrest and a worse rebellion than even the revolt of 1907 due to the situation in Russia. The conservatives pared back these efforts, which catastrophically backfired after the war, as their support base in the aristocracy became even more unpopular due to their collaboration. This gave rise to the largest land reform project in interwar Europe, which was carried out with varying degrees of success. Ironically, without the treaty and the collaboration of the conservatives, it likely would have played out very differently. I just wanted to provide some internal context to complement your international and diplomatic analysis.

[@DavidVisan]

they imposed a treaty as flawed as the Versailles on Romania and then people say it would've been better with a central power victory. i think it would be almost the same since they would impose a similar treaty to this one on the entente, so instead of Germany bringing war to Europe again, it would be just another country

[@jacksample3978]

Yep, I always laugh when people say the world would have been better if the Central Powers won since the innocent Germans would never do something as "harsh" as the Treaty of Versailles.... when they literally made treaties as harsh if not more harsh with Bucharest and Brest-Litovsk.

[@flamaster1757]

Brest-Litovsk was between the central powers and the Soviet government, not the Kerensky one

[@altaccount3397]

Hey, @EmperorTigerstar There is also another forgotten treaty of Bucharest in 1913, Where the Krushevo Republic was split by the Serbs, Greeks, Bulgarians, and Albanians. So that means that there was a Macedonian state BEFORE Tito. If you could try and make a video about it? Thanks.

[@robrot404]

Great video, but just to point out a huge error in the first few seconds: Kerensky didn't sign peace with the Germans. He favoured continuing the war, and when Kerensky was overthrown by the Bolsheviks, they were the ones who signed the treaty of brest litovsk (and it should be mentioned, were extremely reluctant to do so)

[@OtakuVonBismarck21]

Seems like Bulgaria didn't get the whole of Dobrudja, the Danube Delta looks like it is still in Romania.

[@Kapitan_Creeper]

Can you make a video about how you make your maps?

[@hans7500]

Oh hey kapitan creeper, didn't know you watch emperor tigerstar

[@Kapitan_Creeper]

@@hans7500 yep i indeed watch him! Cuz my interests are not only ocean liners but also mapping and geography stuff!

[@Brian-----]

🙂Let's clear this up: The Tsar abdicated in March 1917 in favor of the Provisional, Russian Republican, or Kerensky Government (initially led by Prince Georgy Lvov). This government continued the war, an unpopular decision. However, President Wilson was able to tell the American people in April 1917, truthfully and in conjunction with war entry, that Russia was a free country. The republican government evacuated the royal family to Tobolsk, a remote city in western Siberia, both for protection and to get rid of them peacefully. In early November 1917 (October, old style; hence "October Revolution") the Bolsheviks overthrew this republican regime (not the Tsar) ending resistance to the Central Powers, whose armies continued to advance, and in March 1918 the Bolsheviks signed the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk. In April the Bolsheviks moved the royal family west to Yekaterinburg, a bigger and less remote city, and July executed the royal family in a hasty decision probably motivated by imminent loss of control of Yekaterinburg to the Czechoslovak Legion, which is an amazing history I'd love to see EmperorTigerstar cover! 🙂

[@Brian-----]

This is a really awesome video covering a key topic otherwise very well. At 3:45 Emperor Tigerstar correctly discusses the Dobruja condominium and that Bulgaria was unhappy with not being ceded all Romanian land south of the Danube and with being shut out of the material spoils of war. After this treaty, Bulgaria had achieved all its feasible war aims, yet could not exit the war because it was the [First] World War, not the Third Balkan War. The concession to Bulgaria on Sep. 24, 1918 was too little too late and this lack of motivation to keep fighting after two Balkan Wars and a grueling World War had done such damage to impoverished Bulgaria was a major motivator for Bulgaria to quit five days later, which effectively ended the war, driving quick Central Powers collapse. The main reason the Allies were so eager to get Romania to attack Hungary in 1916 was that an intact, neutral Romania was a major exporter of food and oil to the Central Powers, helping relieve the Allied blockade. Despite quick victory, Romanian entry was a disaster for the Central Powers because it ruined Romania's resources and trade and made the blockade worse. Stealing a war-ruined country's resources yields far less, or is far less productive, than trading fairly with an intact, intimidated neutral.

[@konkasd2539]

Are you going to make a video on the tigray war now that it seems to be ending?

[@artemuralskiy1866]

Hello from The Kaiserreich Universe

[@judeknowles2319]

Take me with you

[@4realm8rusirius]

Can I switch universes to?

[@NotKnafo]

sneaky snitch is not listed as part of used music

[@georgios_5342]

Next up in forgotten stories of WW1: the National Schism

[@rebelfriend9006]

When the Greek king saw Germany with the central powers the president saw them with the entente so the president created thief own nation and the king surrendered and Greece joined the central powers

[@Ida-xe8pg]

Can you make a video on the sepoy mutiny

[@calvincoolidge5943]

Treaty of Brest is 3rd March 1918, not 1917

[@tarabostesmadafaca4859]

a thing you sadly forgot to mention was that the treatry of Bucharest was never ratified by the king of Romania, wich didn't gave it a full authority status

[@robertnicolae1882]

You don’t really have a say in treaties when you’re on the losing side, so whatever the Romanian king said wasn’t entirely relevant

[@wallachia4797]

@@robertnicolae1882 It was, as a result Germany had to keep a constant garrison of 500.000 soldiers in Romania until King Ferdinand agreed to sign, this helped the Western front a lot.

[@NervaTraian11]

@@robertnicolae1882they were in armistice, nobody won or lost yet

[@geekofallthingsprehistory2975]

2:48 Is that an anachronistic Transnistria I see there on the border?

[@alexandruioanmunteanu4105]

Yea, he probably made the map based on a modern map and forgot to fix the eastern border of the Moldavian Democratic Republic.

[@armenianmapper3168]

Batumi treaty , Ottoman Empire -Armenia , Georgia and Azerbaijan

[@vgalis]

You joke about the Eastern front fighting technically continuing until the last day of the war, but in fact, it continued well into 1919 as Czechoslovakia, Romania, and Yugoslavia had to fight the Hungarians because the latter did not accept the peace terms. There was also some fighting between Romania and the Soviets over Moldova that stretched beyond the Nov. 11th.

[@minkshaming]

i actually remember it perfectly fine

[@stuartdollar9912]

FYI. The Treaty of Brest-Litovsk was signed on March 3, 1918, well after the Bolsheviks had consigned the Kerensky Provisional Government to the dustbin of history.

[@MMerlyn91]

Romania reentering the war at the last day and ending up on the winning side of it. Maximum efficiency!

[@dylantaylor3139]

Ngl I saw that thumbnail and was wondering what you did to Colorado

[@blagoevski336]

Nice

[@TheHi-FiHour]

"UH-POYNT-MUHNT" Sorry that was a Brooklyn take on "appointment" there lol

[@Levitationable]

this is so true, like what the heck happened

[@BloxxterT]

Something that always dissapoints me in some history videos including Romania and Bulgaria is how people forget about the treaty of Bucharest.

[@matm4413]

Hey it was the Soviet government signing the Brest-Litovsk peace not Kerensky's. + you have a wrong date on the slide at 0:20

[@x-ray-oh3134]

WWI if the central powers won: Austria-Hungary wins but loses territory Romania loses but gains territory

[@commisaryarreck3974]

Denmark, doesn't even participate and gains land

[@fureszadam3160]

Why would ah loose territory? The entire point of the war was to not loose territotry.(ironic I know)

[@Weesee_I]

@@fureszadam3160 There was apparently an agreement between the Central Powers and Ukraine after Russia dropped out that they would gain Carpathian Ruthenia from Austria-Hungary in exchange for supplying them with food that they desperately needed.

[@fureszadam3160]

@@Weesee_I I think you confused wolyn with carpathian ruthenia because the hungarians would have vetod that decision(they were very protective) and the austrians planned to establish a ukranian vasal state with Archduke Wilhelm Franz or Vasyl Vyshyvani as its head.So technically they would have kept it under austrian controll. Tho the germans also wanted to establish their vassal state there and they had more power to do so.

[@Weesee_I]

@@fureszadam3160 You're right, I was confusing Wolyn with Carpathian Ruthenia.

[@Tytoalba777]

0:35 *Ending the Eastern Front of WWI

[@megarboh790]

the central powers were also allowed to keep their troops at the already occupied sections of romania

[@rlvideosgunner]

Wasn’t Brest-Litovsk in 1918?

[@florinadrian5174]

6:55 Big mistake there. The union with Transylvania was already settled by that time, the war with the Hungarian Soviet Republic happened to stop the spread of Bolshevism.

[@TTuCbKoTp9Ic]

0:18 It was the RSFSR government that singed the Brest-Litovsk treaty, not Kerensky 4:57 I assume you meant Ukraine and other occupied territories of Eastern Europe, not Russia in particular

[@777MasterHero]

So did Turkey inherit that minor cessation of land from Bulgaria after the Ottoman Empire collapsed, or was that void with the treaty?

[@diegoyqulki]

In spanish Si mal no recuerdo fue cedido a Grecia y lo conservo pese a la guerra de independencia turca

[@MitkoSaparewski]

It did. It's such a tiny chunk of land that you can't see it in the maps in the video though.

[@Celestial914]

Why did you decide to name your channel emperortigerstar

[@nicbahtin4774]

0:18 wrong it was the communists who made peace after overthrowing Kerensky government

[@criztu]

"Romania fought a war with the now independent Hungary that resulted in Romania acquiring Transylvania" is wrong. Kingdom of Romania fought a war with Bolshevik Hungary, who didn't own Transylvania. Transylvania declared independence from Austria(Habsburg), who were kings of Hungary. Nobody recognized Transylvania as part of "the now independent Hungary".

[@rarescevei8268]

Indeed. The acquirement of Transylvania was achieved by Romania occupying it after the people of the region voted to join Romania.

[@criztu]

@@rarescevei8268 "occupation" implies doing something unjust, against the will of the people living there. Romania united with Transylvania, not "occupied Transylvania". Nazi Germany occupied Czechia, Slovakia, Netherlands, Belgium, Poland, Romania, Yugoslavia, etc. in world war 2.

[@rarescevei8268]

@@criztu No. Occupation is when a force places itself in an area that formerly wasnt it's own. In this case after it joined Romania. Even during a liberation war, the liberated region is occupied during the war.

[@criztu]

​@@rarescevei8268 observe: "in WW2 America *liberated* France from Nazy Germany" you won't find "in WW2 America *occupied* France from Nazi Germany" you are using "occupation" in technical military terms, which belong strictly to military jargon. you should become aware that in civilian discourse "occupation" has negative meaning.

[@rarescevei8268]

@@criztu If we use civillian discourse, sure. If we use actual military terms, yes, France was militarily occupied by Anglo-American forces.

[@JustanotherGuy-xx4gy]

"End of the European front" at 0:45. You mean Eastern European?

[@snowy3896]

Germany saw Romania re-enter the war and they had no option but to capitulate ;)

[@Cranklesmith098]

Why does ETS always get sponsored by ridge?

[@TheBard1999]

0:18 Kerensky government?

[@judeknowles2319]

Russian provisional government AKA the Kerensky government.

[@GeorgeFradkin]

Really it was Bolshevik government that signed the treaty on March 3, 1918 not provisional government 1917. In 1917 Russia was still in war with Germany. Usually you are better with details. I guess long day.

[@Ma_ksi]

Hi

[@Base1Roger]

Besserabia never had Transnistria in its componence. PLEASE TAKE NOTE OF THIS SINCE I HATE TO SEE PEOPLE ADD IT TO BESSARABIA

[@NitoriTheKappaLeader]

When are you going to talk about the empire of Susbakia

[@thevettegetsitwett]

In reality all Germany had to do was NOT declare war on the United States. Even if they did not break the allied lines which they likely would have at some point managed a break through. Even if they never break through the French were refusing to conduct offensive actions the troops moral was so low they would only defend their trenches. Eventually a peace would have been made sacrificing Russian losses to maintain stability in the west. It would likely result in a joint French, British, Low Countries alliance to keep the balance of power while trying to bring the new Russian government into the alliance after the civil war. If neither side could break through that is the only outcome because Germany would be slowly increasing its supplies from the east. This would likely set the stage for the Soviets starting World War Two trying to get back some lost territories. I can’t see that being successful unless they waited decades to rebuild industry and managed to convince the democracies after decades of peace the attack with them which is highly unlikely. Perhaps they simply rebuild, remaining neutral and waiting for an opportunity to arise to strike back. I can’t see an opportunity arising with the central powers having most the resources they needed but maybe the French after losing the war go communist and join the Soviets in alliance but this would likely push the British away.

[@THE_REAL_POLITIK]

I think it's pronounced Tree-an-on.

[@GambinoTheGoat]

noice

[@silverstar8868]

Ooo, Romanian history

[@barsukascool]

0:26 1917*

[@Seft2_]

Nope, it was 1918

[@itsmeteaguy5346]

The luthor

[@vfgtfh4103]

8.11.1918 начался румынский реванш

[@dumitrunicolaealbu2839]

God bless Romania and romanians!

[@lacramioarapopu2395]

👍

[@mcbabwe4977]

Bulgaria got what they wanted and dipped

[@Nicoder6884]

2:26 Minor goof: you said the words "democratic republic", but the screen shows "people's republic".

[@CatnamedMittens]

Even though I have no stake in it, I'm salty Germany didn't win in World War 1.

[@The_last_prime]

Wallachia, moldova, transalvaniya all uniting into romania.

[@vfgtfh4103]

Болгария проиграла три войны 1913, 1918, 1944

[@attilatasciko4817]

Did you ever learn what that mean = ARMISTICE ! NOT CAPITULATES !!! etc...

[@MaximYT20]

4rd

[@revinhatol]

Moldavia will still be alive and well if this treaty is enforced, because Moldavia will be the one uniting Romania.

[@generaln.gabriel1240]

Germany was afraid of the mighty romana and capitulated As a romanian i am proud

[@cov.teo.8131]

All I can say as a romanian is that nothing satisfies me more than seeing the krauts losing a war very badly 😆😆😆

[@christopherellis2663]

Mărăşeşti ( Mъръшещь, Mõrõšeść) 🇷🇴

[@samwill7259]

Did America "win" WWII, no, not even a little Did American "win" WWI. Ehhh, kinda. Romania won World War 1, horray! And Romania lost WWII...oh...oh that did NOT end well

[@pocketmarcy6990]

Poor Romania, the only land they got back post World War Two was northern Transylvania

[@enderkatze6129]

I remain Firm in my belief that a world in which Germany wins WWI towards the end of the war would be a better world than ours.

[@LM-hc5vo]

wow, that is, like, soooo fascist

[@alanetchetto8908]

@@LM-hc5vo ? -Waves at wich countries actually won ww1- dude?

[@BrianLyons315]

Laughs in Syndicalist and Radical Socialist.

[@BurnBird1]

@@LM-hc5vo You do know that Germany wasn't fascist at the time, right? Fascism hadn't even been invented (Or I guess formalized) yet.

[@danielkarlsson8252]

Why? Do you like an authoritarian democracy where the people barely have a say in anything?

[@jos10hj21a]

"WW1 was a war that was way closer to potentially being a german victory than WW2 ever was" Sureeeee (Id say it was somewhat closer but this sentence sounds too close to the propagandist "gErmAnY cOuLdnT haVe wOn Ww2")

[@Weesee_I]

No, Germany was way closer in WWI. The closest they got to winning in WWII was October 1941, but it wasn't going to happen. The chances of winning WWII were very slim for the Nazis

[@mappingshaman5280]

Unless you can magically put oil into germany, ir turn the nazis into not nazis, they could not have won ww2.

[@mastermindd]

It's actually true.

[@BajanEnglishman51]

@@Weesee_I ehhhh you can argue both sides

[@spark5558]

@@Weesee_I There was a chance in 1941 is they would have gone for the caucuses region first but again just a chance