The Future Is Already Here (But Many Don't Know It Yet)

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Dave Takes It On

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@KokowaSarunoKuniDesu
@KokowaSarunoKuniDesu 3 ай бұрын
More and more people will realize that the gas-and-go fill-up model is not the only way, and is certainly not the most flexible fillerup option. So charging speeds (and their concomitant pricing) won't be an issue for many folk.
@markrozee
@markrozee 3 ай бұрын
I will never buy anything other than a full EV ever again 😊
@thisisnumber0
@thisisnumber0 3 ай бұрын
The bloke I know whose burning ipace did £30k damage to a house, said exactly the opposite.
@st200ol
@st200ol 3 ай бұрын
@@thisisnumber0 And if it had been an ICE car that did the same damage? I once nearly burnt my parents home down working on an old Escort in their garage, I doubt they'd have been happy if it had, but I also doubt they'd have said "I'm never owning an ICE vehicle again".
@David-bl1bt
@David-bl1bt 3 ай бұрын
​@st200ol yeah...apparently ICE vehicles never catch fire do they! The transit van i was driving on the M6 many years ago burst into flames whilst doing 70 in the outside lane....it must have been an act of god one off incident ! I did consider regressing back to a push bike, never buying a petrol vehicle again....then decided against it!
@PJWey
@PJWey 3 ай бұрын
@@thisisnumber0he knows to get a Tesla next
@rickyjulian496
@rickyjulian496 3 ай бұрын
​@@thisisnumber0ipace with the phone pouch style battery? Was never a good idea!... Dumbasses designing something they know little about. Lfp the current best. You can pierce the cells and they won't burn..
@colinsuter6888
@colinsuter6888 3 ай бұрын
Totally agree with what you say, Dave!
@javelinXH992
@javelinXH992 3 ай бұрын
Dave presses the “Trigger Half The World” button in 3, 2, 1, Go!
@Hell-Hound1
@Hell-Hound1 3 ай бұрын
Cheers Dave. Picking up some background interference on your audio. Was also on previous video.
@MrGMawson2438
@MrGMawson2438 3 ай бұрын
I can hear that crackling again Dave
@djtaylorutube
@djtaylorutube 3 ай бұрын
I was in cental London yesterday and today and it was significant just how quiet the traffic was. Not the silly notion of silent as some incorrectly claim but just quiet due to so many EV's (or hybrid in EV mode. )
@mbak7801
@mbak7801 3 ай бұрын
What has happened is that London, which gets the lions share of all monies and investments, is awash with EVs. MPs look at the streets and conclude everywhere is like London therefore EV incentives can stop. Hell, even their wife and children's nanny has a Nissan Leaf. It is going to take many years for the rest of the country to catch up. Look at salaries. I moved from 130miles outside London to the City and my income doubled. Then emigrated to Europe and it doubled again. Britain is a low income country with large swathes outright poor. The Government is going to have to do what the French have which is subsidise EV purchase and running costs. Don't hold your breath.
@jimsouthlondon7061
@jimsouthlondon7061 3 ай бұрын
Dave as I keep telling everyone on the comments section at my Subscription Daily Telegraph , Spikedonline and The MacMaster KZbin channel ( I love all 3 of them btw) Electric Cars don’t need petrol stations and don’t need a hole in the ground in someone else’s country to get the oil out . ❤🇬🇧🇺🇸🇮🇱👍
@mrg-ghx8052
@mrg-ghx8052 3 ай бұрын
Thanks to all the engineers who developed the battery thing from discarded tree bark and grass cuttings 😂
@djtaylorutube
@djtaylorutube 3 ай бұрын
​@mrg-ghx8052 it's common to move forward from one technology by using the existing one, doesn't mean we stick forever at one. We didn't suddenly have CPU's but got there via valves, discrete transistors and so on. Each requires the previous to build the next. No surprise really.
@Jaw0lf
@Jaw0lf 3 ай бұрын
Another one that I totally agree on. EV numbers kepp growing and the more people with driveways see the cheap running costs, linked with availabilty of the +200 mile EV in the second hand market will see many more people swapping. As more and more EV's are sold, people will wake up to what we have been saying for years. As more keep telling friends the same information, morer will sell and this will also happen in new car sales. ICE is going to keep decreasing exponentially, and this would impact the number of petrol stations and costs of fuel.
@thisisnumber0
@thisisnumber0 3 ай бұрын
A new petrol station is being built near me on the site of a busy and successful restaurant, now demolished. Funny old world, eh?
@David-bl1bt
@David-bl1bt 3 ай бұрын
​@@thisisnumber0 very foolish move. A new Sainsburys opened near me 4 months ago. Their olanning application submotted 18 months previous included a petrol station which i considered crazy as there is Tesco, BP, Shell kess than 100yds away and an asda station less than 1/4 mile away. When it open i was surprised to discover that the petrol station hadnt been built...instead there are a dozen rapid EV chargers! Thats common sense progress.
@KokowaSarunoKuniDesu
@KokowaSarunoKuniDesu 3 ай бұрын
Well we've got a 50 inch TV. But we both spend most of our time watching KZbin on 11 inchers, with earphones plugged in.
@barryb1490
@barryb1490 3 ай бұрын
I moved from an ICE car and got a little Honda E as I work from home and do local journeys, perfect for my use case. However I sadly see the thing during the week as the wife uses it for her work commute!
@AndrewFlower-c2l
@AndrewFlower-c2l 3 ай бұрын
Dave, Firstly may I say how much I enjoy your reviews, keep them coming I am sure you are helping the cause. I think it will take sometime for some people to realise how good owning / driving an EV really can be, most people I come across have already formed an opinion against them without knowing or listening to the facts, both my partner and myself have an EV and will not be going back to an ICE car. Thank again. Andy F
@jeromedowning6843
@jeromedowning6843 3 ай бұрын
A bit like having a black and white TV in the early 70 by the 80s most had colour
@Antiguan_Dart
@Antiguan_Dart 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for an interesting perspective Dave. New to your channel and enjoying your videos. I like your non-preaching style - matter of fact. I’ve been an EV driver 2 years - a change in company policy meant my lease car was withdrawn so I was in the market for a car - luckily 300 miles, 18 minute ultra rapid charging Korean E-GMP vehicles like the ionic 5 and EV6 had just come onto the market - and with being able to home charge that was sufficient advancement in EV tech to suit my needs . As it happens I plumped for the GV60 which came out about 6 months after my EV6 deposit/reservation. I’ve stopped touting the climate change benefits as some people still don’t believe, others don’t care and more still don’t have the financial resources to make the change. The cleaner city air argument is an easier one to make to doubters. But with the 2nd EV market now offering an attractive alternative to what might have been a second hand ICE and the benefits of cheaper fuelling ( if home charging most of the time), reduced servicing costs and reduced administrative costs ( no road tax, no congestion charge, no ULEZ charge or restriction) - the appeal of EVs is growing. Economies of scale ( re growing battery market) , manufacturing improvements, cheaper chinese imports driving competition and in the UK atleast the ZEV mandate starting this year ( fining manufacturers who don’t make a percentage quota of BEV in their total volume of sales) means prices are going to fall driving yet more switches from ICE to BEV. It’s an exciting time.
@clayton4115
@clayton4115 3 ай бұрын
Good examples, another one is the old camera films who would buy a camera film these days and take it to the store to get the film processed when you have the image on your digital camera instantly.
@linuxretrogamer
@linuxretrogamer 3 ай бұрын
6:51 this is how I ended up with my EV. Last car failed its MOT with a £1000 repair bill and the likelihood of more woes next year. New car time. Looked at secondhand cars in my price range. They read like the car I was just scrapping. Trading in one annual MOT money pit for another. Then I noticed the Nissan Leaf. £10k for a 3yr old reasonable mileage electric. Took the punt on PCP (effectively leasing). Won’t be buying another ICE ever again.
@gothmog2441
@gothmog2441 3 ай бұрын
“The future is already here, it’s just not evenly distributed “ William Gibson. This has been evident to me since I picked up the fob to my first Model S in 2015 … NINE years ago. The rest of the world is taking longer to catch up than I anticipated but it slowly is. Today when I look around the car park at work, 30% are EVs… and the rate of change is accelerating
@gothmog2441
@gothmog2441 3 ай бұрын
Tipping point comes when the falling number of ICE vehicles left puts pressure on the viability of petrol stations … then it becomes harder to fill up because you have to detour to get petrol, whereas plugs are everywhere … and ICE vehicles become a novelty weekend only drive, like vintage cars or traction engines.
@GG-gotr6
@GG-gotr6 3 ай бұрын
It’s hard to believe such blinkered thinking…. You must have been an incredible salesman.
@solentbum
@solentbum 3 ай бұрын
Do you remember when that Giant of the Computing world IBM caught a cold when it found its massive stock of desktop computers were out of date and no longer selling? Or Kodak ignoring Digital Photography as long as it could. As for the myth of range anxiety, I have just checked the 'range' of my first five cars. Morris 1000 Traveller @ 210 miles, Humber Hawk @ 330 miles, Austin A30 @ 270 miles, Standard Vanguard @ 330 miles, Vauxhall VX4/90 @ 330 miles. Strangely nobody worried about range of cars even though the only supplier of petrol was through a 'Garage' which often closed at 6pm and the idea of having a petrol pump at home was for then very rich! No home charging then.
@djtaylorutube
@djtaylorutube 3 ай бұрын
Back to the popping audio on this and the last video. Try listening with headphones, it's not insignificant.
@rusty911s2
@rusty911s2 3 ай бұрын
Well said, very sensible and realistic. Very much hoping a new Labour gov unwinds some of Sunak's anti green sentiment as happened in US and Australia when pro-fossil populists were displaced.
@videocanonuser
@videocanonuser 3 ай бұрын
The main reason I subscribed to this Chanel was the refreshing common sense of Dave’s commentary. Let’s hope that a Labour victory at the GE next month with see Sunak’s pro-big oil policies reversed in short order. The future is not Fossil Fuels but Wind, Solar and Batteries as well as any new technology that may emegrge.
@bwarey52
@bwarey52 3 ай бұрын
I wouldn't buy into the medias narrative quite so much,the uk is doing pretty well on ou4 energy transition. And securing our own fossil energy supplies rather than ending up in the recent Russian gas situation makes sense
@prjackson7802
@prjackson7802 3 ай бұрын
Great video
@stevewest131
@stevewest131 3 ай бұрын
Old technology always fades away and new technology becomes the norm eventually. With cars the transition is well underway. The switch from ICE to EV has much momentum. Whether people believe in global warming is irrelevant, the air pollution they create and danger to people's health is undeniable. Add to that the technological advances EVs have made over ICE is phenomenal. EVs are an all round better product on the whole. The legacy car makers have become very good at making petrol / diesel engine cars.. and they make them at a good profit in very big numbers. Those car makers simply cannot make EVs that are as good as the new EV manufacturers and they understandably don't like it. If they don't change their ways and adapt to the new market there is only one way their business will go unfortunately.
@David-bl1bt
@David-bl1bt 3 ай бұрын
Indeed...very strange that ICE age driver comments conveniently NEVER mention the carcenogenic toxins that they spew out in their wake for innocent bystanders to injest into their lungs. Legacy manufacturers stubbornly sticking their heads into the sand hoping that their cash cow fossil fuel vehicles will continue to be their bread and butter and pretending EV's aint gonna happen is the beginning of the slippery road to failure. They are in for a rude awakening.....remember the biggest selling mobile phone manufacturer? Fail to prepare, then prepare to fail.....their Nokia time is coming sooner than they realise.
@casperhansen826
@casperhansen826 3 ай бұрын
50% of all new cars sold in Denmark in May was BEVs, I expect that 95% of new cars will BEVs before 2030 The valley of death hS already started and it will bottom next year, meaning people in big numbers will stop buying ICE cars and wait for a good BEV to buy, extending the life of their old car until they have to buy their next car, and it will be electric
@michaelketley1252
@michaelketley1252 3 ай бұрын
I’ve got an EV and I plan to keep it a long time……..
@GG-gotr6
@GG-gotr6 3 ай бұрын
You may be disappointed - EV’s don’t last.
@markburton8303
@markburton8303 3 ай бұрын
@@GG-gotr6 over 90% of the teslas made are still on the road.
@GG-gotr6
@GG-gotr6 3 ай бұрын
@@markburton8303 I've researching your statement and figures of Tesla sales relating to those still registered in the US do not agree with you, where did you get the figures from? Without doubt the life of an ICE cars will far outlive an EV. The very nature of current battery technology means the battery degrades from the moment of manufacture and will eventually fail. An ICE when maintained will last indefinitely, I still drive a 51 year old car.
@markburton8303
@markburton8303 3 ай бұрын
@@GG-gotr6 you drive an outlier not the rule; the average age of cars that are scrapped (at least in the UK) is 14 years.
@GG-gotr6
@GG-gotr6 3 ай бұрын
@@markburton8303 I agree. The world would be a lot greener if people were encouraged to keep cars (and other products) longer, throw away society is bad for the planet. But it makes some people richer and scrapping good ICE cars for short lived EV's is insanity. Can you answer the question please where does the 90% figure come from. Ta 🙂
@markthomasson5077
@markthomasson5077 3 ай бұрын
Any manufacturer saying that a hybrid, ie an electric car that also has a petrol motor, plus generator, plus kit to join the two together….is lying. Anyone who buys one with all that extra kit to service and go wrong is nuts.
@keithbrown339
@keithbrown339 3 ай бұрын
Once you get set up with an EV and realise 1000 miles cost 12.5 to 25 pounds. Then you add in no fumes and low maintenance costs top it of with great secondhand price. The penny will drop.
@jamie-hb8gy
@jamie-hb8gy 3 ай бұрын
The fumes are already in the atmosphere whilst making them.
@mbak7801
@mbak7801 3 ай бұрын
Charge from home and EVs are cheap. Public charging is more expensive than ICE. Maintenance is almost always main dealer only at hiked up charges so expensive. EVs are nicer to drive but at a price premium for many. The only penny to drop may be 'I cannot afford this' . I own both EV and ICE, can charge from home for local journeys and use ICE to save money on longer trips.
@fanfeck2844
@fanfeck2844 3 ай бұрын
@@jamie-hb8gywhat fumes? Very few factories release harmful toxins into the atmosphere, but certainly far less than the drilling and refining oil industry
@jamie-hb8gy
@jamie-hb8gy 3 ай бұрын
@@fanfeck2844 good god!!!! Retrieving the materials for batteries uses 1,000's of liters of diesel to fuel diggers and earth movers.you really think a throw away car is zero emissions?pffft deluded!!!🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
@fanfeck2844
@fanfeck2844 3 ай бұрын
@@jamie-hb8gy your reading comprehension is junior level. I said it’s much less than drilling and refining oil, and then burning it, not that it’s zero. Ans it’s far less polluting to the areas people actually live in towns and cities
@MrGMawson2438
@MrGMawson2438 3 ай бұрын
Its a little like John Logie Baird (fourth from left) giving a demonstration of his television system at his home in London, 20 December 1940. On 16 August 1944 Baird gave the world's first demonstration of a fully integrated electronic colour picture tube, the Telechrome.
@st200ol
@st200ol 3 ай бұрын
Is the old tech in your example the pure petrol and diesel cars? While I don’t see HEVs and PHEVs carrying on for more than 20 years I’m sure these especially the PHEVs continuing to sell well up until the ban in 2035. The PHEVs may even continue to be used in pure plugin mode long after the pumps have run dry and been ripped up, for short local journeys.
@srbs73
@srbs73 3 ай бұрын
Anyone else noticing the mic interference on the last few videos?
@lesliecarter4295
@lesliecarter4295 3 ай бұрын
He is in a padded cell now..! 😂
@smortg
@smortg 3 ай бұрын
I can definitely see the beginning of the paradigm shift as more people in my area are getting EVs as they've been better facilitated with street charging. With new ICE only vehicles I think the exponential change will occur in or around 2030, though I don't full electric as a majority of the cars on the road is coming until after 2037 or so. It could be faster if charging becomes more democratised, but I don't hold my breath too much for this to happen quickly in England
@linuxretrogamer
@linuxretrogamer 3 ай бұрын
The big hold back at the moment is lack of investment in slow destination/off-street charging. The model is too focused on imitating ICE petrol stations. With fast EV charging stations (30-60minutes to sit in your car watching the juice trickle in) popping up everywhere, in the long term most useless locations. EV paradigm shift requires re-educating driver habits and expectations. These are not gas guzzlers. Going to a station to fully refuel is the wrong approach. Plug in to slow AC chargers little and often and don’t worry if your battery sits in the 20-80% charge rate when you drive off. Ideally, unless you’re driving long distance, the fast charge network shouldn’t concern you.
@StaggerLee1468
@StaggerLee1468 3 ай бұрын
Is it not possible that hybrids represent a growing share of the diminishing ICE market? Need more data!
@Gazer75
@Gazer75 3 ай бұрын
Incentives in Norway are slowly going away and I fear the EV percentage of new cars will go down again. Most people only care about the total cost of owning a car. The toll rates are now down to like -30% for EVs. Some city toll rings still have 50%, but can charge up to 70% of normal price for EVs. I'm sure they will eventually change the -50% for ferries and the 500k NOK VAT exempt as well. A lot of tax money lost in that. From 2023 they added a weight tax on new EVs, and as of 2024 its 12.98 NOK/kg (0.9-1.0£ depending on rates) with the first 500 kg exempt to basically account for the battery weight. So a 2t EV is almost 20k NOK (~1450£) in taxes. If all incentives are gone the only thing left is the price of fuel, and the difference between DC fast charging and diesel/petrol is roughly 30% depending on price difference and consumption of course. So for people not able to charge at home its going to be hard to justify an expensive EV over a cheaper fossil alternative. At least as long as there are fossil options. VW is no longer selling fossils in Norway.
@lesliecarter4295
@lesliecarter4295 3 ай бұрын
Norway is one of the biggest sellers of oil and gas in the world. Fossil fuel exports dwarf the virtue signalling EV rollouts.
@gavjlewis
@gavjlewis 3 ай бұрын
It might be old to us but it's still relatively new to many people. My friend has just bought their first car (after owning a moped for years). A small Toyota petrol car. It has A/C and front electric windows. For safety it has two front airbags and ABS. The stereo also supports MP3! Yes to us it sounds like a car from the 90's, but to them it's a massive boost to actually own a car. They have electric cars but only in the capital and only for the richest people. When you regularly have brownouts (every week) and your household main breaker is only 16A they aren't going to be ready for electric cars for a while. If you watch Itchy Boots Africa tour many places there is no electricity grid and fuel is purchased from glass bottles from the roadside. 83% of the world's population is in the developing world segment and it's growing every year. So it's not all about you replacing your ICE car with an EV but all the new buyers that have never owned a car before. I'm sure many major cities will have policies to tackle local pollution and will limit ICE cars and those people will have to drive Wuling Bingo EVs as that all they will be able to afford. But away from the cities people will be buying Toyota, Nissan, Suzuki basic cars as they have started to do now.
@LapillLapida
@LapillLapida 3 ай бұрын
Seems you dont get the report and the actual stats. The reality is developing countries arent enough to stop the shift. The only countries that companies care about are Germany, Russia, India, China and USA. If one of these countries shift to BEVs its game over. And China leading the way to BEVs in rapid phase
@mbak7801
@mbak7801 3 ай бұрын
@@LapillLapida There is no game to be over. Countries where EVs are not viable for the bulk of the population will continue with ICE. New ICE cars will continue to be made at the fringes but be super simple and inefficient. Older ICE cars will be exported from some western countries for decades. It might take 30 years before most cars in the UK for instance are EV but pollution from elsewhere will far outstrip any savings the UK could make.
@LapillLapida
@LapillLapida 3 ай бұрын
@@mbak7801 Not according to the reports and stats. I read the reports and articles about this. Even legacy auto makers admits fossil fuel powered vehicles sales are dying in rapid phase, even in developing countries. The reality is legacy auto makers dont want to save fossil fuel vehicles. You posted it yourself, its ICE. And legacy auto makers make sure ICE vehicles still in the market after 2035 with e-fuels, hydrogen, bio-fuel and natural gas. Its good news for them not so much for consumers. Since these non fossil fuel are expensive
@bellshooter
@bellshooter 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely spot on, trying to sell into a shrinking market with reducing volumes makes costs higher and margins reduce. Ask Nokia, Kodak, Garmin, etc, some gone the rest a shadow of former size. The 2030 deadline isn't too critical as the annual decrease in allowed emissions for auto manufacturers hasn't changed in UK, so they will be there anyway. Also like @Hell-Hound1 I noticed some audio artifacts.
@vasil7410
@vasil7410 3 ай бұрын
There are strong vested interests trying to slow down the EV adoption in some countries, such as the US and Australia. The legacy media is working very hard to spread FUD surrounding EVs. It has had a very material effect on car sales to date. I think that in the mid term, these two countries will diverge greatly from the rest of the world on which car technology is adopted.
@peterlucy1519
@peterlucy1519 3 ай бұрын
As with anything else that is new. The price will eventually come down to a market level price that everyone can afford.
@georgethompson453
@georgethompson453 3 ай бұрын
Keep taking the tablets
@mbak7801
@mbak7801 3 ай бұрын
Some of the future is not good. I have been told that a flush and refill of my EV radiator with water and antifreeze (yes some EVs have radiators) costs a whopping £400. How much to change the gearbox oil? (Yes many EVs have a gear reduction box complete with gear oil). I bet that is a fortune. HEVRA garages are few and far between and have limited ability to fix EVs. So I am tied to an indifferent dealer network who can charge what they like. I broke down and was given an appointment five weeks hence and told I had to trailer my car to them on the day of the appointment and pay £130 for them to plug in an ODB reader. EVs are great but you are going to be gouged for every penny you own. The dozen ordinary garages in my small town are of no help with an EV. I see the total lack of competition as being a huge problem.
@javelinXH992
@javelinXH992 3 ай бұрын
Yes, this is a concern. With private garages not seeming to want to get involved in large numbers, it does leave dealerships with a pseudo-monopoly at the moment. Can’t imagine it will always be like this and I am sure it is getting slowly better, but with so many ICE cars still around I understand why private garages are sticking to what they know.
@zsebi66
@zsebi66 3 ай бұрын
while EVs will be less and less expensive ICE-s will become more expensive since the volume the legacy automakers and their suppliers reached has peaked. Running smaller batches of anything will cost more (even for the spare part) - until its financially not viable for the part manufacturers. Getting spares is gonna be more expensive, the newer ICE cars with 1 liter 2 bar turbo engines will last a lot shorter time than a 1.8L old normally aspirated one. It's already getting hard to get some parts for a short production run "modernish" ICE-s. Its inevitable, the question is how current stock markets and investors will react to declining legacy automakers. Because that will give an other push towards the cliff of petrol cars.
@MrGMawson2438
@MrGMawson2438 3 ай бұрын
Hello mate
@VideogameBucko
@VideogameBucko 3 ай бұрын
Your CRT comparison is kind of interesting.. when flat screen TVs launched, CRTs actually had the advantage in picture quality and, in many cases even today, still do IF you are viewing standard definition material. Of course, back then, most broadcasts /were/ in standard definition and HD content was the exception. Flat panel displays have to scale standard definition content to fit, whereas CRTs work slightly differently by drawing a beam of light. What attracted me to buy my first flat panel wasn't picture quality, it was the fact I could have a 32 inch screen mounted to my wall, instead of a huge CRT with a smaller screen that took up half the room. Now CRTs are a thing of the past, the better models have actually come collectable and sought after particularly by retro gamers, because nothing displays a old video game console as well as a CRT television (newer scalers come close, but still)... Also getting them serviced and maintained is a real pain, very hard to find anyone who will even touch one... You could say EVs are in a similar situation right now, there's more petrol stations than chargers, and they have an advantage in range.. but the killer feature of EVs for most people is home charging, you simply cannot beat the cost savings and convenience of that. Over time of course flat panel displays improved their standard definition scaling, more TV and movie content was released in high definition and costs came down, the rest is history. More and more mechanics will switch to repairing batteries and motors instead of engines, and running an ICE will be a huge pain and inconvenience and something for enthusiasts only.
@mbak7801
@mbak7801 3 ай бұрын
Home charging is a big plus but many cannot do that. At the moment ICE servicing is everywhere. EV servicing (yes they need it) is almost always main dealer only at a deliberately inflated cost. As for consumer electronics I used to have a Phillips N1500 VCR. WOW!! It was true broadcast quality. DVD and Blu-ray are just trash in comparison. It is very dangerous to make comparisons with what is perceived out of date technologies. Even my local rail line has higher speed limits for steam trains than diesel units. Steam does less damage to the rails and is safer at higher speeds.
@davidmurray9160
@davidmurray9160 3 ай бұрын
dave , do you have a cat in studio? the audio is purring like an ICE engine 😀 🥰
@KennyTew2
@KennyTew2 3 ай бұрын
Side note, but CRTs are still used by some retro gamers
@psandbergnz
@psandbergnz 3 ай бұрын
I don't see that this video is particularly relevant! If I buy a car this year, I will consider how sellable it will be in about 5 years time (or less), and since EVs are evolving fast, it may be that a current EV will have very little value in 5 years' time, since EV expectations will be much higher. The same argument cannot be made for ICE cars, which are evolving far more slowly, having almost reached their full potential. There will almost certainly be an important market for petrol cars for at least another decade. The question is: _Is it worth buying an EV now?_
@caterthun4853
@caterthun4853 3 ай бұрын
Stop using dinosaur juice..
@st200ol
@st200ol 3 ай бұрын
I prefer, stop burning Dinosaur juice, we need it for lots of plastic stuff that can also be recycled too. I have an issue with burning oil now, what do we make plastics from to build ICE or EV cars when all the oil is burnt?
@anthonybrown4874
@anthonybrown4874 3 ай бұрын
Hi Dave no issue with EV from me but cost parity for European makers is still a way off and without the BIK and salary sacrifice EV sales would be much much lower. Its still a technology problem the cost weight and repair support need to be given time to develop or folk like me will be priced out of the car market. I could find a use case for one EV in the household so may do it in future. Governments penalising IC sales with punitive penalties distorts the market and its time EV stood on their merits.
@blindman8849
@blindman8849 3 ай бұрын
One minute folks are priced out of the EV market, the next depreciation is so steep I wont buy one. Strange times :)
@anthonybrown4874
@anthonybrown4874 3 ай бұрын
@blindman8849 To be fair it's a game depreciation is always a factor my 34 year old car isn't depreciating but maintenance costs are a factor. Our new car is depreciating but maintenance is predictable but it will only ever lose the £14k we paid for it over its lifetime say 14 years £1k per year. In the middle our used car £8600 at 2 yr old so only losing that £8600 over the next 12. Paying £30k for a new EV makes no sense the used market usually sorts out whst something is worth so £12-14k for a used adequate EV to write off over? That's the bit that's uncertain don't know the service life that the battery range will be acceptable for, less of an issue for sole urban use but for 200 mile activity journeys with the iffy charging infrastructure less clear cut.
@caterthun4853
@caterthun4853 3 ай бұрын
If you are a country that does not have oil.. You need to buy it. Oil is sold in dollars.So, you need to get dollars by selling some of your products, food or minerals to USA. If you are a country with plenty wind or solar. You can then need less dollars...Future problem for world sales for USA. Unless oil can continue
@simonpaine2347
@simonpaine2347 3 ай бұрын
Fun fact about 50% of all US dollars are held OUTSIDE the US. Therefore you only need to sell your wares to a country that has access to dollars. This demand pushes up the price of the dollar and as long as it doesn't get out of hand, the reserve currency is fine.
@alexishart1989
@alexishart1989 3 ай бұрын
Dude, what's wrong with the audio? Same as the other day, dreadful.
@CouchCoach
@CouchCoach 3 ай бұрын
Unless the EV charging from 0 to 100% will take less than 5 minutes I will not switch to EV. And I am not alone. I am sorry, but I cannot charge over night at home, I cannot charge at work. And unless there is a major technology change the infrastructure to make one of those change it will not be possible for years to come. How do you expect thousands of people to change all at once in a parking lot? And what would the electrical grid to support that have to look like? And no, sentences like "you could charge while shopping" will not solve it either, unless every parking spot at the shopping center would support charging. At the moment, at least in my opinion, EVs are a rich mans toy, nothing more. And they are no paradigm shift since the cars work essentially the same as before and the running costs are not much different as well. In some countries even higher than ICE. So i hope companies will produce good, affordable ICE Cars for many decades to come. And if you can show me the EV that acutally is "zero emission" than I might start to belive it. At the moment neither the batteries nor the electrical power are particularly green.
@davetakesiton
@davetakesiton 3 ай бұрын
No point in replying as you have decided against EV setting absolutely impossible restrictions that even your ICE car cannot meet. We’ll wait, ICE are on their way out, no rush
@CouchCoach
@CouchCoach 3 ай бұрын
@@davetakesiton I am unsure about what kind of restrictions you are talking. I can put fuel in my tank and pay in less than five minutes. I do not need to charge for 30+ minutes elsewhere. And under the current conditions there is no way a charging system for more than 2-5 cars could be build at my home or my place of work. And since you have to charge dozens (at work even hundreds) of cars, that will be physically almost impossible. At the moment you cold charge maybe 20 cars (more likely 10) per charging station each workday, and you would have rotate those cars every 20-30 minutes. At my local supermarket there are 2 stations, again for hundreds of cars. How will you charge about 10.000 cars even in our small town? Most of them do not have a garage where they can charge at home. Tell me how that would work... Or take a big city like London or Washington. How do you expect everybody (or even a big percentage) to charge their cars when it takes most current cars more than 30 minutes to achive a 60-80% charge at fast-chargers?
@MT-xy7fw
@MT-xy7fw 3 ай бұрын
What accent is this?
@leesmart1971
@leesmart1971 3 ай бұрын
Northern! West of the Pennines to be more precise (with a hint of Cornish thrown in 😉).
@mbak7801
@mbak7801 3 ай бұрын
If you mean Dave then Devon.
@alanhowemusic2457
@alanhowemusic2457 3 ай бұрын
Hi Dave love your channel. Let’s face it most brand new Electric cars are registered to the fleet market so the new electric car market will be buoyant, however private new electric cars sales are down. The second hand electric car market is stalling as the second hand electric car market as far as a high percentage of the buying public are concerned are still not happy with the fact that there is no industrial standard to confirm the traction battery degradation plus the charging infrastructure and high depreciation in second hand electric cars. Full Hybrids on the other hand have a much smaller traction battery charged by the petrol/diesel engine and so the general public perception is that the smaller hybrid traction battery pack charging is totally controlled by the manufacturer of that hybrid and so the battery pack degradation will be far, far lower. So the full hybrid market is a much better bet than any other including plug in hybrids as they are charged at the mercy of an external charger and use a far larger traction assist battery pack. So it’s the fleet new car market that is artificially boosting the new electric car market as company car drivers are given huge insensitive to take up electric cars in favour of a smaller tax bill or salary. It’s the private sector that is not as buoyant as there is no incentive to own a new electric car and of course we must take into consideration the huge depreciation in new electric car second hand prices. So as far as the private sector is concerned it’s full hybrid sales that have taken of with far less depreciation and no charging infrastructure to worry about plus no loss of human time when charging a full electric car. Full hybrid cars are the way forward in the new and second hand car market.
@steve_787
@steve_787 3 ай бұрын
Hybrids still can't get their emissions to zero (or close to) like a BEV, which is why they will also die out shortly after diesel and then petrol. Fleet sales of PHEV's is almost worse than them having ICE as many where sold and then never charged. You'll spend just as much time charging a PHEV as a BEV as they usually have much slower chargers. May as well just have the BEV. If you are sat in a BEV while it charges you are simply doing it wrong or just new to BEV's.
@crm114.
@crm114. 3 ай бұрын
Hydrids make no sense. They have all the complexity of ICE plus the battery weight. They are just the last gasp of legacy auto to hang onto their diminishing market but it won’t last.
@truebrit3670
@truebrit3670 3 ай бұрын
My opinion, 1. the public don't know what charging connector types are, letting alone believe 'non standardisation is an obstruction to adoption' 2. Misinformation promoted by the oil and legacy auto is pushing the public to hybrids because the public feels afraid to adopt full EV. Only time will bring realisation they are paying to lug an engine around they dont need. 3. Used EV sales aren't stalling. There are a lot of used EVs on our roads 4. Few people privately buy any new cars nowadays. 5. Hybrids aren't the way forward. They are already too expensive. Hybrids and ICE vehicles will soon see the large depreciaton seen in EVs.
@crm114.
@crm114. 3 ай бұрын
In the UK, a lot of salary sacrifice sales to individuals are classed as fleet sales. So,the EV sales to individuals aren’t as depressed as the figures suggest.
@tedmack6516
@tedmack6516 3 ай бұрын
Why not have a no incentive arrangement. No subsidy for business etc cars. Equivalent levels of taxation. No massive taxpayer subsidy for electric chargers. End of coercion of car suppliers and buyers. No VAT subsidy for home charging. Charge cars by size and weight for road use. Clarity as to the substitute for taxation loss from fall in use of fossil fuels. Sorry, the tv analogy is only superficial. The 3 X 3 X 1/3 is not yet achieved (yet?). Dave, enjoy your videos. Keep them coming.
@radiotowers1159
@radiotowers1159 3 ай бұрын
Here is when the anti EV press will take real notice of the change: its when the first struggling petrol station closes for good.
@mbak7801
@mbak7801 3 ай бұрын
New petrol stations are opening today. I am not sure there is much if any profit from petrol sales but the shops are getting larger and being open late draw in local footfall.
@volt8684
@volt8684 3 ай бұрын
Sorry you are going to be wrong.time will tell. The grid cannot support electrification. What section of the population are you lookin at. Go round the 3 bed semis and council houses. No EVs. Get a reality check
@GG-gotr6
@GG-gotr6 3 ай бұрын
Reality check impossible - he’s convinced he’s right regardless of the evidence, EV’s are far from green and on their way out.
@thisisnumber0
@thisisnumber0 3 ай бұрын
There are two flaws in your vision.... Now factor in the withdrawal of subsidies and tax incentives and tax on driving EVs... And... The end game is the abolition of ALL personal mobility, including flying. You EV zealots are facilitating this catastrophe, you should be ashamed of yourselves, particularly those being paid for it.
@simonpaine2347
@simonpaine2347 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for sticking with your ICE cars and subsidising us EV zealots. I love it when someone else pays my taxes.
@simonpaine2347
@simonpaine2347 3 ай бұрын
The ending of subsidies will be easily balanced by the batteries getting cheaper and the price differential between petrol/diesel and electricity goes more in favour of electricity. I'd be really interested to know where you heard about the "end game" being the "abolition of ALL personal mobility" I must admit that I've not even seen that on GB news or read it in the Daily Mail and I'm positive that they would be pushing it if there was a grain of a possibility of that happening. Relax. The end of the world is a way off.....unless of course the change to sustainable energy is reversed.
@thisisnumber0
@thisisnumber0 3 ай бұрын
@@simonpaine2347Your days are numbered, enjoy it while you can. Your naivety is going to usher in pay per mile.
@drysdalekev
@drysdalekev 3 ай бұрын
The abolition of ALL personal mobility? What conspiracy theory is this? Surely you can't be serious.
@muskrat3291
@muskrat3291 3 ай бұрын
I bought my EV without any tax incentive. After 60 years of driving gas I certainly now enjoy being an EV zealot. Especially enjoy that my "fuel" cost per mile is about 2 cents in the summer and less than a penny a mile in the winter when super off-peak rates kick in. I also enjoy the 90% efficiency, unlike the massive 80% INEFFICIENCY of your combustion vehicle. How much is a gallon of gas these days? Ahh, I just love being an EV zealot. LOL
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