The future of analog emulations

[@zsteinkamp]

LOL @ "You can just route things pretty easily to your tape machine." Yes, while feeding your pet giraffe.

[@JoelBedoy]

They have a bypass, in minute 5:25. its on the "baby audio" label you click it and it bypass the effect. You passed the mouse to fast so you couldn't see it.

[@Richardparra_og]

That is so stupid to do tho, why they didn't just put a "bypass" button

[@101Licious]

@@Richardparra_og True

[@psajgal]

I'd love to see a shootout. Would love to see FabFilter Saturn, Waves tape plugins, Wavesfactory tape, maybe the Slate Tape plugin (I stopped using it cause others seem to do a better job). And of course compare it with real tape and maybe even real equipment stream sites like mix:analog. Just realised that it's a lot of options to compare.

[@HumanAfterAll101]

I'd add Softube TAPE as well

[@soundfx68]

@@HumanAfterAll101 I'd add the three UAD versions as well. I own them, but really like the WF one.

[@VESHZA]

Also Goodhertz Wow Ctrl!

[@bringyourownheart]

@@HumanAfterAll101 Yes!

[@akagerhard]

don't forget IK Multimedia Tape-Collection. Clearly prefer it above the others.

[@GianlucaSibaldi]

I am an old musician and studio owner who worked on real analog stuff in 80’s and first 90’s. And I remember that era mostly for the annoying side effects of analog equipment and tape machines. By the way, not mentioning the maintenance costs… So I can’t figure out why newest generations of musicians and audio people loves this defective stuff. Anyway, the virtual reels of TAIP spin the wrong way. They should spin anti-clockwise, so the left reel feeds the tape and the right one takes it up.

[@domdraper3221]

How can a supposedly experienced audio engineer not understand why people love this stuff? We live in a world where you can set up a hybrid system and use the analog gear to take advantage of the so called “defects” and the huge maintenance costs can be mostly avoided. Tape is pretty fricken expensive though.

[@GianlucaSibaldi]

@@domdraper3221 I suppose it’s a matter of taste and what your goals are in the recording/mixing process. I actually appreciate tape compression and that bit of fattiness in the sound, I used to record at high levels snare drums and kicks into tape to get tape compression. But how can you like noise or wow and flutter and high frequencies heavy distortion? Try to record let’s say an high hat on a 30 ips 24 trk 2 inch tape at a level higher than -15/-20 db. What you get in playback it’s not a cymbal anymore but something similar to a pot cover falling down the stairs. That said it’s obvious that sound must be somewhat “digested” in the record/mix process. Because on one side it has become part of the music production language, and on the other side you really need to smooth out peaks and frequencies buildups to get a good playback on most consumer systems. To obtain this I prefer use eq, compression, saturation with a very specific setting for each sound instead of put my tracks into a tape and slam up the levels. But, as I said, it’s matter of taste and maybe there’s some weird kind of generation gap that affects me.

[@kaori-3882]

@@GianlucaSibaldi Very interesting :) "To obtain this I prefer use eq, compression, saturation with a very specific setting for each sound instead of put my tracks into a tape and slam up the levels" It's also interesting that now that the loudness war is hopefully over, we need to regain responsibility and technique of working with more dynamic material. If before lots of peaks and buildups were eaten by all the compression/limiting/clipping now it's a different game I believe...

[@domdraper3221]

@Gianluca Sibaldi I agree with all you say I will only add that several styles of music deliberately destroy the sound as part of the effect. It’s supposed to sound like an old damaged tape.

[@__prtcl]

because if you record everything with clean pres and mix everything with plugins it sounds completely flat and lifeless, and theres no opportunity to be creative with the defects because.. there aren’t any. that being said I would also never go back to the old days of resetting the console or waiting for a sampler to load or running out of cables/channels for things. I’m fine working on the computer and just bouncing things through the analog EQs/filters thanks :)

[@GG-zv9ku]

you can bypass by clicking where is says" baby audio" under "start here" top center. I think should be more obvious though

[@entoine87]

yeah but he never reads the manual 🤓🤷🏼‍♂️🕺

[@pyratellamarecordingstudio1062]

You said you asked the how they trained the ai, and that their answer was really interesting, but you never told us their answer.

[@steverachmadofficial]

@@epilektric the answer was that the AI could not handle the tape machines randomness

[@epilektric]

@@steverachmadofficial Sure, OK, but then Baby Audio didn't actually answer the question either. If the question is "How did you train your AI?" and the answer is "The AI couldn't handle the tape machine's randomness", that implies they did not train an AI. Obviously, they did. So the real answer would elaborate on the first with something like "We had to isolate specific features of tape audio and then train it to recognized each one individually." Overall, I found that portion of the video a disappointing let down. I wanted to hear more about 'how' but instead I got a non-answer.

[@ryanpwm]

I think it sort of lead to that they didn't train an AI on any tape machine itself. So not like "this is a digital sine sweep" and "this is a sine sweep through a 1" studer with bias". So instead they prolly reverse engineered things that best showed the "tape effect". To train you need yes cases and no cases so then they have to give it really "tapey" songs and very modern digital songs. And probably some testing files like solo drums, sine sweeps, and so on. Train it to know the difference between the sounds and then take that difference, create a transfer curve, and apply it to a sound effect. That, instead of learning the machine itself or running a live simulation inside your machine. My best guess anyways.

[@levondarratt787]

I don't think they know what AI really means.

[@pjuliano9000]

@@steverachmadofficial it’s not random … to do this with AI one would need take a digital recording and then send it to tape … then train the Neural network on the differential …. It’s just a very very complicated equation and the end of the day

[@croay]

yeahh, you should totally make a comparison video! I really like softube's "tape"

[@checktheneck]

fuse audio flywheel also nice

[@martinlarrivee5081]

I really really likes this plug-in. There are interesting presets and it really adds a lot life to my tracks.

[@razormix]

I bought it after trying the demo because I loved the sound it gave during my testing. Don’t really care how it compares to others because plug-ins that color sound quite a bit will all have their specialty. If you don’t like the sound of a plugin, simply skip it and go for the ones you personally enjoy. But always try the demo!

[@GeorgeTitkov]

I'd like to see IK Multimedia's tape emulation plugin(s) included in a future shootout. :)

[@akagerhard]

Agreed, but don't confuse it with the newly released Tascam-Tape-Emulations. Don't know how good they are yet. But the tape-collection are by far my favorite tape-emulations. Use them all the time.

[@chocomalk]

The mystery and sound of analog for me is in the spread and bleeding of frequencies across the tape. Every aspect of the process breaths in a way, from the music itself to the electrical conversion and the magnetic aspect of the medium as well as the rolling flux of the tape itself, it all breathes.

[@RemmyMusic1]

TAIP, Satin, and hardware tape. That’s the shootout we need.

[@lorenmorgan1931]

Satin is just one of those plugins that are just good enough you can use it on anything. Not sure if it's accurate in any way, but it makes any mix or even track sound better. But I totally agree, I would love to see this shootout, would be an interesting benchmark to see where we are at in this digital world.

[@lucasschaffer948]

and what about fabfilter's saturn?

[@shweetdude543]

I should've read comments before I commented, cause I had the same thought lol

[@HolarMusic]

CHOWTAPEMODEL

[@gabsauvage]

@@lorenmorgan1931 actually, i prefer the Softube Tape.

[@huntergalloway3944]

I respect that they still ask for your reviews. It makes me like them even more!

[@StevenQBeatz]

TAIP vs Wavesfactory Cassette vs U-He Satin vs RC20 vs Sketch Cassette II vs Softube Tape vs Waves J37 vs Waves Kramer Tape

[@polkaclaus]

vs psp vintage warmer 🤓

[@checktheneck]

cassettes and reel 2 reel it's different things, in terms of sound and character

[@Espresso101]

Definitely gotta include Taup from Acoustica and Slates VTM

[@randyranson84]

You missed trying the middle buttons and you also missed out where the bypass resides, which is surprising, not only that, not only do the knobs expand, they contract as well, so you can zero in on exactly the tone, texture and volume you want.

[@timoheinrich8763]

Where is the bypass, tho? In the logo?

[@anders671]

@@timoheinrich8763 in the text "baby audio"

[@realraven2000]

@@anders671 totally obvious ui choice. Does the label change to adult Audio ? 😉

[@anders671]

@@realraven2000 hahaha good one

[@Septimius]

I think it’s amazing UX feedback. The bypass is absolutely hidden, and Taip should be updated to give better UX. The other things you mention are the same thing. It’s perfectly fine to miss things. It means the UX is bad.

[@MK-fw4to]

YES! Please do a full comparison between tape plugins and add the hardware as well. If you can get a Anamod ATS-1 in it as well, that would be great! I'm sure a lot of people will be interested.

[@nanob0zo]

Shoot out. Shoot out. Please add u-he Satin to the tape plugin list. I’ve had it for years and feel I’m under utilizing it.

[@Rhuggins]

Dan worsll has a great video on it. Its super powerful, the emphais/deemphasis is literally magic

[@Rhuggins]

Its technically a compressor/expander in series, really really really cool to mess with on various things, and emphasis/deemphasis in general opens up a great world of possibilities

[@razhmazh]

Hornet Tape, Wavesfactory Cassette

[@levondarratt787]

If it would be really doing some magic for you you would already know it and use it.

[@Nathankaye]

Yes to the tape analogue vs emulation shoot out. Please include: • Steinberg’s Magneto II, • Slate Digital’s Virtual Tape Machines, • TAIP, • Hornet’s Tape Huge thanks 🙏🏽

[@sanidhyachauhan5578]

J37 waves too

[@mattheasboelter5217]

I'd love to see chowtape included in the tape shootout. It's a free tape plugin that I really enjoy using.

[@GavinskisTutorials]

ChowTape rocks. For a heavy saturation pushing into distortion I think this Baby Audio one wins, but ChowTape is versatile, and free!

[@michaelhonormusic]

I was on the fence with tAIp but I got it for a good price.

[@haslo_]

Definitely interested in that shootout. Please use Black Rooster Magnetite in there, too!

[@pressspacetostop]

Seconding this! Such an interning plugin because it can affect the signal so drastically but it’s not like wavesfactory cassette, it’s not my goto saturation 100% of the time of course but I love it to death

[@sainsay]

I always have many questions with AI-powered plugins. Over the last few years, I have been developing and researching several AI-powered tools in the game industry and big leaps are being made by working to getter and sharing ideas often in the form of research papers. In audio/DSP development that uses AI, this seems to be happening much less often and thus very hard to verify what they are adding. What neural network configuration are you running, what part of the audio pipeline is AI, which inference engine are you using etc. It's the training and data that adds value to your work not so much the network itself so why are these companies so secretive about their "AI"...

[@sainsay]

To be fair to this plugin though this can be a genuine use for AI and is much less questionable than the "helps generate rhythm or melody AI" plugins that I personally see often in ads. but some openness and clarity will not only be nice for consumers but also amazing for developers who are pushing this relatively new tech forwards.

[@heathrezabek]

Agreed - And while it sure sounds as if they are using a GAN to do this, it's just not clear. I really hope they publish some research or at least a process summary and if I ever find one, I'll probably come back here and link it wherever it applies.

[@IllusionSector]

_'AI is an overused - and often misused - term._ They figured if they preemptively state that we'd be less inclined to think that TAIP is part and contributor to that very problem.

[@DeadWhiteButterflies]

What I've learned recently (by way of my fave tech podcast, Trashfuture) is that a lot of AI in general is usually neither A nor I. It's more often still people behind the tech, duck taping things together to make it function. AI is more of a buzz word that's good for PR. It's like when in the 1950s a, tech company claimed they built an intelligent robot ls to showcase at the world's fair, and it turned out to just be a guy in a suit.

[@KentHambrock]

In most cases AI is just a cleverly written algorithm, not machine learning. And in a *lot* of cases, can fit the use case much better and more consistently than the ML option. They do imply quite heavily on their website that they're using a neural net(ML), but they don't say that's what they're doing, they use the wording 'we can' multiple times rather than 'we did' so I'm inclined to believe that they aren't using ML and are only trying to get people to think they did. If it sounds good and you think the value is there, go ahead and use it, but this sounds like it's walking very close to the line of what's considered false advertising.

[@ThePercyphone]

I found it really useful, it does have a diffent feel compared to other 'satuation' or 'tap emulation' . The test for me is 'does it stand out as a price of useable software regardless of whether it is a good emulation' . And yes itsxa very useful tool. I ran multiple instances, on drums, vocals (surprisingly good de-esser), chorused guitar, strings and bass. Really changed the dynamics of my mix. Thumbs up from me

[@FLH3official]

Could be an interesting idea to test "Chow Tape Model" plugin as well. Its GUI is not so sexy, it's not "AI" but there're far more control (gap, wear, speed, bias, spacing, etc...) How does it compete with this Taip? Oh, yes, Chow Tape Model is free.

[@nightdew4934]

Agreed. It would be really nice to see how the free alternatives stack up, maybe checking out airwindows too.

[@jaydy71]

It actually sounds pretty good, and I like the way it glues things together like tape does. It's interesting they said that it's difficult to deal with noise when training an AI (if you actually want it to reproduce noise), which is exactly right. Machine learning algorithms always want to generalize/optimize what it's trained on. And when it's trained on noise it just tends to average out all randomness, and you end up with nothing/silence. I've actually attempted to emulate tape using machine learning myself, and personally I couldn't get it all to quite work, so I'm quite impressed with what I'm hearing. I'm guessing the AI part of "tAIp" is purely related to the drive controls and such, but not the noisy controls like "wear" and "noise", but I could be wrong. As far as I got myself with randomness using machine learning is capturing pseudo random number generators (which just seems like noise but actually isn't).

[@slash196]

I've tried a fair number of tape plugins and watched many more demos but this is the first one that actually gave me the FEELING you described. AI is an overused buzzword but when applied with care and purpose it really does work magic.

[@kaori-3882]

Same here, it's the first time I hear a plugin that actually sounds similar to tape.

[@SimonDanielsson]

Also agree that the feeling is there and it is great fun to create with!

[@levondarratt787]

So why are we not hearing Magic then?

[@public_hell]

Black Rooster Magnetite (which has oversampling btw), Chow Tape Model (amazing free stuff), Ferric TDS Mk2 (updated free plugin), Ozone 9 Vintage Tape vs Hardware. P.S. I hate that I can't stop those spinning reels!!)

[@fourspiralarms]

Glad to see baby audio working with intelligent producers such as yourself esp after smooth operator. They seem like a solid company and this plugin seems awesome!

[@PiddeBas]

They are a solid company indeed, always replying personally to emails and so forth.

[@theswedishmusicstudio]

Black rooster audio - Magnetite Softube - Tape Fabfilter - saturn2 tape setting or preset

[@sadkebab]

I tried a lot of tape emulations in the last few years and I have to say that for my ears this is the first plugin that adds some real vibe... perhaps too much vibe for things like mastering and adding subtle saturation in a mix (I'd still use Saturn 2 and Softube's Tape for these use-cases). I genuinely enjoy this a lot. As a borderline-millennial home recorder/producer I never even saw a realt tape machine in my entire life so I don't really know how it relates to the real thing... but I totally see myself using this as a sound design and tone shaping tool for the years to come.

[@CatoNoise]

I just got this plugin too! I like it. Just used it to create some effected background vocals last night that I'm pretty pumped about 😄

[@loganryansmith]

I have all of Baby Audio's plugins and use them often. Nice sound to all of them and easy to use.

[@shinyukomusic]

Wow! That's some impressive stuff! Baby Audio really nailed the feeling of Tape in the coffin! I'm going to try this myself, really interested in the input "Hot" button you didn't touch. Great video as usual Wytse!

[@davelordy]

The 'tape reels' are rotating in the wrong direction, they should be going counterclockwise.

[@Friedeggonheadchan]

If you do a tape shootout video, you absolutely *need* to include IK Multimedia's Tape Machine Collection in there. As far as I can tell they're based on a very similar approach as Taip here, but give you considerably more control over the process and employ an even more detailed modelling.

[@AndreasSchmidtAceDaBrain]

This plugin really surprised me. I used it in my master chain with the "start here" default preset... And it really cleared and lifted the master up without distorting it. Nice one! And then I turned presence, hi-shape and lo-shape to 100 and I was like wtf 🤯 it was so clear, balanced and bassy that I doubted my skills because of the difference between with and without taip. Maybe it was the 3 bottles of champaign that confused me but... What the heck... I have to test that out when I'm back sober again... (probably the hights are going to kill me, but we'll see 😅). Check that for yourself... I'll be back for another review...

[@RudeRecording]

Thank you for reminding me how much I don't miss tape or analog for that matter. I maintained tape machines of all kinds tape machines in recording studios and broadcast. I've spent most of my professional career trying to record the source more accurately. I think the question really is, does it really sound better or does just sound more familiar?

[@Linguae_Music]

Isn't the bypass button the "Baby Audio" Logo in the top-middle like on smooth operator?

[@DerekPower]

Your tape machine, TAIP, Black Rooster Audio Magnetite, Waves J37, UAD Oxide (or any of them), Slate VTM

[@AlexReidStudios]

Yeah I definitely need a comparison with different plugins, so we can hear if AI really makes the difference or not. My recommendations: Slate Tape, IK Track-S Tape 99, etc.

[@AL.N-music]

It sounds like it's just a bundled set of compressors, modulation, eq, noise generator, and some distortion. But made with a specific set of parameters to create that emulation. It's something that can be done even with Reaper's stock plugins, though it's a lot of work. But this one in one single VST, does make the workflow more convenient.

[@joelonsdale]

Just bought it - I love a bit of tape around but honestly can't be bothered with the real thing. I haven't used any "real" hardware for at least 10 years now and it has been a real freedom! I'm not really bothered about authenticity - the difference between the plugin and the hardware is similar to the difference between two examples of a piece of vintage hardware anyway.

[@SoulFoodOfficial]

I’m using it from two weeks and I think that is one of the best tape emulator plugin that there are outside…..

[@TheBroadcastStudio365]

The bypass button is in the middle. I bought this plugin today and I am very satisfied. I'm going to use it often (I think :)

[@JoelBedoy]

But it sounds great, that warm feel its what some of us want to add when tape effect is needed.

[@georgezorbas6422]

I think that this plugin is unreachable in the impact that provides. It's fantastic - sounds like a real tape and even better! Wowwww - I hope they gonna make it even better with future updates with oversampling and more stuff but eventhough if you put it in anything it makes dramatic impact and brings to life everything!! I can't believe this plugin

[@matt_nyc_audioengineer]

Yes, do the shootout! Use the IK Multimedia tape machines. They are really good as well. :)

[@bosslenz2766]

You are one funny dude! I love your silliness backed by your solid knowledge. And I like the song. Groove On!.

[@carl_47]

I suggest make the video again :) more detailed. This plug in in my opinion it’s a game changer in the way it works and the sound is really good. Baby Audio deserves

[@heathrezabek]

Definite +1 for doing a tape comparison video - I'd vote TAIP (which I've been pronouncing "tape"), RC-20 (which does many other things also but is such a go-to for many people that its tape aspect should really be zoomed in on), and Cassette by Wavesfactory (because Wavesfactory makes incredible things). I don't have Satin so can't say there. Maybe by narrowing down the features you could compare several. What TAIP is doing is really unique and a clever approach, I think: they used the AI (likely a Generative Adversarial Network / GAN) to compare the difference between dry and tape-recorded specimens, and to recreate the difference space. I do appreciate the relative *simplicity* of its controls compared to others mentioned. Tape is magic! Let's do some deep dives to discover just why!

[@MichaelSchmittEleven]

Sounds pretty good! And yeah, please bring us the shootout! 👍🏻😀

[@Slitter_the_Dubstep]

For the Tape Emulation Shootout we DEFINITELY need the Fabfilter Saturn². It is my main Saturation Plugin and i would really like to see if it holds up against competition in a fair comparison video. (Also Cpu-Load would be kinda interesting to see in that test as well) Thanks 🤘

[@SimonSalloway1]

I'd be interested in comparison with Softube tape, iZotope vintage tape & Toneboosters Reel tape

[@michaelhonormusic]

I mentioned before that I really like the tAIp plugin, but not as an actual tape emulation. In truth it´s not meant to be used as an true emulation of a real tape machine, there are other plugins that does that. I mainly use tAIp as a saturation and sound shaping effect which it does very good. The only gripe I have with this plugin is it´s aliasing it´s making, they should add at least 8x oversampling in a future update.

[@VicerFx]

What plugins do you recommend for emulation?

[@PiddeBas]

Huh, this is one of the only plugins that actually sounds like a tape. Still $39 a month later btw, awesome

[@duncanmarshall241]

Yessss. Do it! Waves Kramer and J37 would be good to hear compared and maybe Soundtoys tape delay without the delay?

[@dinocaster3371]

Yes Tape Shootout please! ToneEmpire Reelight, UHE Satin, some Waves tapes, Slate VTM

[@nichttuntun3364]

Hey. Melda Productions did machine learning years ago already. This technique has its limits. For a Shootout video I recommend Satin from U-he and P42 Climax (Tape Studer preset) from Pulsar Modular. Satin was the king for many many years but the P42 plays in another league and took over the crown effortless. Unbelievable audio quality and legit vividness with non linearity and little things happening with randomness. When you do such a shootout, have in mind a tape emulation (also the good and interesting TAIP) only can show its real power when put on all channels and compare their cumulative effect. Every instance of P42 for example will act a tiny bit different. Like real hardware. Thank you. Enjoy. Cheers

[@levondarratt787]

Crown is uad atr102 for mastering, not distorted gi.micks. Tape by Softube, is fantastic also. The rest is alright.

[@nichttuntun3364]

@@levondarratt787 if you aren't into distorted gimmicks, you'll sure love P42 Climax. Awesome saturation with a soft very natural break-up behavoir, completely different from what I heard so far ITB.

[@levondarratt787]

@@nichttuntun3364 that one is unknown to me. Thanks for the recommend, NotDoDo :)

[@nichttuntun3364]

@@levondarratt787 hey cool :) I am curious how you like it. "nichttuntun" is from ZEN and roughly translated would be "to do not-doing" what means being focused in here and now. diffucult to translate ;)

[@gregmark1688]

Yes, on the shootout idea. I'd like to see the Waves J37 emulator. It's better than you might expect. This thing looks cool, but it doesn't really remind me that much of tape. It's more like an AI box that magically makes things sound better. Which is both fascinating, and depressing. Is it really going to be that hard to train a AI to just mix and master the whole damn song? You and I are probably already relics of the past, my friend.

[@Ardeact]

white sea you really ought to link the songs used in the videos because they're complete bangers

[@jonathanritchey2440]

this guy has one of the best personalities ever. keep being you my friend.

[@AbelOrtaJr]

Tape shoot out would be awesome, waves J37 , Kramer Tape, Softube tape, Acustica Taupe, Overloud gem tape, Slate virtual tape machines, baby audio.

[@majastman]

1) Slate's tape pluguin 2) Waves j27 if i'm not wrong 3) Softtube Tape 4) Airwindows has a tape pluguin 5) And the best free tape - Chow DSP ChowTape At least some of them should be compared...

[@SakariKaripuro]

Would be cool to hear your opinions on Toneboosters Reelbus 4. Everyone seems to skip that in every test on tape-plugins.

[@nickskywalker2568]

I find the 3 a lot better! Definitely great bang for the buck

[@SakariKaripuro]

@@nickskywalker2568 i've liked 4 a lot more. but i have no chance to compare it to a real thing.

[@TheReal_E.IRIZARRY]

Reelbus 4 > TAIP IMHO not just Pancz x Softube Tape

[@nahf4m]

Shoooooooot out! I've been impressed with a tape plugin called Chow Tape Model. Very utilitarian and very free.

[@sebguyader]

+1 for Chow Tape Model

[@artean4700]

Yes, we need that shout-out. Some suggestions: Softube Tape, U_HE Satin, TAIP, TAIPEI STUDIO (London Acoustics), Tonebooster Reelbus and IK Multimedia Tape Rack!

[@okaybenji]

Yeah, would love to see real tape vs. plug-in shootout! BTW the word BYPASS pops up in the plug-in at 5:25 as you mouse over the BABY AUDIO logo :P

[@AnnaLaug]

Yes!!! Shootout between “in the box” and actual hardware! Please, please! Thank you as always.

[@marziograva]

The bypass switch is their logo -not the most obvious or visible choice, but it's there :) Thanks for this review and for being always ultra-objective!!!

[@roddymacaudio]

Would love to see a shootout between your machine and software including Taip and perhaps Acustica Taupe, Black Rooster Magnetite and Fabfilter Saturn in the line up.

[@Beatsbasteln]

i think this plugin sounds really cool and i'd consider buying it if i had no tape plugin yet, but i also think it didn't sound more incredible than traditional dsp algorithms that do this kinda stuff. the word "AI" sometimes makes it seem like it's more intelligent than a traditional dsp approach, but the traditional dsp approach is sometimes exactly what is needed. for example when you design a vibrato that should emulate wow & flutter all you need to do is implement a delay and shift the readhead around softly. that is exactly how wow & flutter works irl if you consider the surface of a tape a readhead. AI would only overcomplicate something that has already been fully solved, so to say. i can't say if it's the same for distortion or noise, but for vibrato that's definitely true

[@ad7or]

Your vocal idea at 7:11 is gold material 🧡🤣

[@symojup3382]

This could well be one of the best plugins in terms of simulating wow, flutter and the real tape feeling if only the input stage wouldn‘t alias like crazy, no matter what you do. There is no oversampling option and the plugin runs at 48kHz internally. So external oversampling or higher sample rates in the DAW don‘t help. Hope they‘re gonna fix this….

[@amber1862]

Developer here: AI-based audio algorithms are often limited to the samplerate of the training data. Basically if what you're saying is true, they most likely used 48kHz training data to create the model. There are a lot of memory constraints and limitations you have to factor in with real-time AI-based audio algorithms, let alone CPU usage.

[@everybodyhasoul5438]

Agree with the input Alias'ing. It is hard to dial in a more subtle amount of drive.

[@michaelmacdonald491]

Nice to know that this plug in runs at 48k. I was going to buy it but will now wait to see if it gets revised for 96k.

[@threeforcegaming1769]

Please try to include the Black Rooster Audio tape plugin (Magnetite) in your shootout. It's frequently on sale for $29 and I personally think it sounds awesome. I reach for it often.

[@timoheinrich8763]

The sketch cassette needs to be in the shoot out, please!

[@TheReal_E.IRIZARRY]

version II that is :)

[@samnarjinary]

Well, I was waiting for your review.

[@zackfreedman2486]

Love to see a tape shootout. My favorite is IK Tape Machines (Tape 24 specifically) definitely add those to the shootout!

[@gwsound]

ok, bought the plugin and tested it. I think you should have mentioned that there is no over sampling in the plugin. New plugins without that should be from my point of view ignored. Anyway, it does color your sound and you can get some nice results if you play around a bit. As with most color plugins it feels a bit fake as well and I wonder what is going on under the hood with the digital aliasing etc. I'm more a hardware guy t.b.h.

[@lassorb4752]

Yeah would be sweet! Sketch casette, this, reels and your machine

[@mytimeinvested]

Absolutely to a shoot out video...very interested in the result between ai and actual analog!

[@BeGoodNow5]

Absolutely yes, shootout including 'Tape' by Softube!

[@vigilantestylez]

Throw TB Reelbus v4 into the shootout. It's the only plugin that I thought sounded really close to a Studer a812.

[@dykodesigns]

Low voice = instant Barry White vibe! Shootout would be nice, but instead of using a plugin you go to Radio Piet and buy some cassette tapes and record on that and record the tape back into the computer. Make sure you get the Chrome ones for the hifi sound.

[@tradehut2782]

This is my favourite saturation plugin now

[@samothydude2694]

chow tape needs to be in the comparison as well !

[@hcps2576]

Love your review style!

[@JackMajor]

Slate Digital Virtual Tape Machine vs TAIP vs Wytse's dope tape at home.

[@Vertlain]

Softube Tape should be in a comparison video. Wavesfactory Cassette is great also, though it is rather a cassette deck sim than classic reel-to-reel. You can throw in Kramer Master Tape by Waves as well.

[@ЦыхраЦыхра]

Chow tape model is cool! I’m also using IK multimedia tapes, Airwindows ToTape6, Saturn, AA Taupe. It would be great to compare these

[@aro7975]

Just letting you know that you hovered over the bypass button at around 5:24. It's invisibal and is above the TAIP logo. I think I spotted it there in your video. Edit: I paused your video at 5.25 on the dot and it definitely says bypass above the TAIP logo. It's just invisible until hovered over.

[@georgewirkus]

I would love to see the shootout. Also could you please try and explain a little deeper as to what the tape machine does/adds to the production. I have never played with one. I do not know.

[@tomassofianopoulos8957]

TAIP, U-he Satin, Hornet Tape, Tapeface from KIIVE Audio, London Acoustics Taipei Studio, Acustica Audio Taupe and hardware tape.

[@waedi73]

A plugin with a slider for adding noise as a feature while getting noise in the music is the biggest issue for the rest of the world. Great show !

[@Crowbar11115]

Not really on topic but I LOVE stories of bands trying their best to record a great demo to Tape and then that demo becomes an iconic album. Black Sabbath and Type O Negative both started that way. They were so focused on getting a great demo on Tape that they wound up creating music that was so good the labels simply released the "demos" as the actual Albums.

[@gunnarschuettler]

Nice Test, love it. I would love the tape shootout. Put the IK Tapes and Waves Tapes in the shootout ja

[@cristianhum3009]

yeeesss, tape machines shootout!... the IK multimedia stuff would be a good contender

[@syklik]

Plugins: Acustica Audio TAUPE, Babyaudio TAIP, IK Multimedia TAPES; Hardware 500 Series: Rupert Neve 542 Tape and other Tape Emulators; compared to your original Tape Machine would be great! 👍🏾

[@D-One]

I like your Barry White voice :) With the size of your channel, you shouldn't have much issue finding a Dev willing to give an interview and demystify the 'magic' of hw emulation plugins, that would be awesome.

[@marekvoosen]

The own bypass of a plugin can react in a better way than the reaper one, if it’s programmed well. Without latency issues in sound when bypassing.

[@Vikotnick]

I would like to hear that tape comparison! It would be awesome.