The future of boating is electric

After boat sales increased during the pandemic, some companies are going electric and working to change the industry. Joy Benedict reports.
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[@aaronerskine3401]

another benefit is the regenerative braking when you are going downhill

[@theotheleo6830]

If you go downhill over Niagra Falls, you can rest assured that the battery will be fully recharged before you die. 😀

[@Neojhun]

@@theotheleo6830 That ain't a hill buddy. Don't drive off a cliff either.

[@manofsan]

I'd just put a small wind turbine on the front deck

[@TooTooMuchTime]

@@theotheleo6830😂😇😂

[@michaelosmon]

Not even a slight chance. Take your sales pitch somewhere else

[@chrisbailey9377]

Water+ electric= nope.

[@noeldrach7956]

I'll pass

[@Zentinel_85]

How long do the batteries last until they need to be replaced and how much do they cost??

[@bradfordjhart]

They last at least 10 years, used replacements are available for a fraction of new price.

[@thebossman3894]

Nothing electronic last 10 years in salt water

[@Neojhun]

No one has a clue how much a battery will cost in 2038. If you can figure that out correctly and bet on it, you could become very rich. Get it wrong you will go beyond bankrupt.

[@Neojhun]

@@thebossman3894 LIES, That is simply not a viable low lifespan. Especially for Anchored Floating devices like on Buoys. 17 years is about the limit. 15 Years is the best you can hope for with 1st gen large format batteries.

[@thebossman3894]

@@Neojhun I have a boat in the salt water. Like I said - nothing electronic last 10 years in a salt water boat!

[@keybrent64]

7000lb boat!???

[@davidrodriguez641]

Sign me up!!! Oh, WAIT,...HOW much is the target price $ ??? $300,000.00 starting?!?! - Ouch

[@Nug-one87]

300k? Come on man!!!!

[@makeracistsafraidagain]

When we want to relax on the water, we go to a place too small for any powered watercraft, paddle out and enjoy the quiet.

[@zacpdx]

Bingo

[@jimgritty7064]

Yes

[@jonasbaine3538]

Now electric boats will join you into quiet zones 😮

[@rehsa-zc6zq]

That's ridiculously heavy. I have a 23ft Avid aluminum center console that weighs about 2200 lbs including engine and fuel. A 24 ft fiberglass boat will only weigh about 3-4k lbs depending on style and design.

[@jonasbaine3538]

Yeah that’s a huge difference for the towing vehicle too when adding trailer weight

[@rehsa-zc6zq]

@Jonas Baine absolutely, my V6 F150 is already abt maxed out with my current boat. You'd need an f350 or equivalent to confidently tow this tank of a boat.

[@Noosejustice]

My friend bought a Ford electric lighting and has a 21 Boston whaler. He can't make a 200 mile round trip towing his boat with that 90 thousand dollar truck. I would never trust an electric boat out on the river or ocean. These engineers haven't figured in on ocean swell, current, and wind in their calculations. I'll keep my twinn engine gas boat. Electric boat would be cool for small lakes and rivers.

[@MoCowbell]

Why is this correspondent yelling?

[@colekeller]

One does not drive a boat....

[@skylineblack2000]

300k ? Yeah you can kick rocks buddy

[@Mikey29977]

It sold out ☠️

[@manueldavid7369]

true... and OBVIOUS... but glad the general public is starting to grasp it.

[@mr.clancy1598]

I’ll just keep my little two stroke and a good day on the water

[@williamsavelle9515]

Bad Idea

[@frankxannis2394]

All of ya'll should buy one... because water and electricity go together so well.

[@ronfigg1]

No it’s not!!!!!

[@herbertmolina353]

How would you ever stop a fire one a electric boat without polluting the environment

[@robertm2172]

I seen this boat over the weekend at piru. Welcome to Torrance guys I wish I would raced you on the water. Take note y’all where early on the water out by noon then went to charge up and again took it out by before sunset. Just my view from the guy with the big purple boat that does 70 mph and fits 10 people. I probably spent 40 to 50 dollars in fuel.

[@NashHinton]

How much co2 did it take to mine the resources to manufacture this boat?

[@Neojhun]

Way Way Way less than the amount of fuel a similar boat consumes. Also much cleaner emission other than GHG, Diesel Gate was about TOXIC emission like NOx and SOx and Particulates. Even when charged on dirty US electric grid mix.

[@andyjohnson3790]

A crap ton!! Mining is extremely energy intense and harmful to the environment. But as the same with EVs there is a beneficial trade off depending on how many miles traveled and the source of energy to charge the batteries. One gigantic difference with EVs and ICEs is that metals (batteries) are recyclable while it's IMPOSSIBLE to recycle fuel once it has been burned. Humans are going to harm the environment regardless, so the long term goal is to use machines, technology, and energy that can be recycled over and over again, and you cannot recycle fossil fuels.

[@DaringCreative]

Super cool. Will be compelling when they price comes way down. 😮

[@Noosejustice]

When does anything in price go down? By the time someone could save up for that 350 thousand dollar boat, the price will have jumped to 500.

[@mr.joshua6818]

A 3,500 pound battery? That seems like a lot.

[@PS-zw4yc]

I had a 26’cruiser the entire boat was about 7500. . 3500 is heavy

[@karenstrain1152]

What about WIND power?😂😂😂😂

[@zacpdx]

What about the two arms you have hanging from your body?

[@thebossman3894]

And where did the power to charge it come from?

[@amateurwizard]

Shore power is already standard, it's the equivalent of level 2 charging for a car. Everywhere has shore power.

[@Neojhun]

"Shore Power" is a very old maritime term.

[@markgreen2170]

...yeah, let me spend $300,000 so I can save a $100 dollars on gas! ...electricity, water and an aluminum hull, what could possibly go wrong!

[@user-dv7hq2rh4g]

Nope

[@Neojhun]

Exactly NO Choice, Monopoly only.

[@saksirikridakara]

What type of plug is needed to charge it and how long does it take?

[@Neojhun]

My guess it will be exactly the same as Cars. Soo Type 2 Mennekes in most other regions and J1772 in North America.

[@pauldannelachica2388]

Very cool

[@luxmaster]

what is the range, battery kWh? what's the recharge time ?

[@Noosejustice]

If you have to ask that,then you can't afford it. This is strictly for the super rich.

[@villavids2785]

What, 7,000 lbs for a 24ft boat? It’s a floating Tank! Not including passengers and all your goodies/equipment. My Yamaha 24’ is 3,600 lbs dry. Add in all everything else I’m probably looking at 4500lbs. At 7k+ lbs you’re also looking at serious tow vehicles. And $300k price tag. I’ll have to wait while till it comes drastically down in weight and price.

[@bl6252]

Yep, that is right, take electric and add water - smart move. NO THANKS - Take your electric car, trucks & boats and put them where the sun does not shine.

[@Neojhun]

LOL we have a genius here. Never needed to use an Electric powered Washing Machine, Water Pump, Pressure Washer, Water Boiler in his life. Electricity + Water is a NECESSITY of modern life.

[@MathiasA1000]

Have a look at the Swedish Candela C8 foiling electric boat.

[@xlargetophat]

Nickel battery?

[@Neojhun]

Sure A type of Lithium Ion battery uses mix of Nickle Magananese and Cobalt as the Anode and Cathode to capture and release Lithium Ions. But this would require basic understanding of Galvanic Chemistry.

[@xlargetophat]

@@Neojhun I was thinking, lithium metal. No heavy graphite.

[@markgreen2170]

search youtube for this video: "Got electrocuted while washing an electric car"

[@c0jonz]

Solar panels would be an obvious improvement.

[@CodeGr88n]

obviously

[@thefpvlife7785]

Correction ... a used boat half that size would be a 12 foot boat and that'll cost 5 to 10k Ma'am. Not half of 300k.

[@pnweezy]

300k? Good luck on mass market 😅 Won't even last 5 years 😅

[@patsquach4080]

Solar sails. As an accessory…must have. !!!!

[@Noosejustice]

Definitely better have a membership with tow boat us. Or sea tow.

[@DelfinoGarza77]

Except lithium catches on fire when it gets wet... so becareful.

[@amateurwizard]

Technically it produces hydrogen. In air that would catch fire. Worst case scenario If the battery sank it would dissipate it's stored energy because the salt water is conductive (but not hugely). If it sank then was punctured, it would create huge amounts of Hydrogen. However it would not lead to thermal runaway like it does above water. Instead just that battery cell would be damaged. The very cold & high thermal mass of the water helps this. Underwater, no oxygen no heat, no fire. There are other things to be worried about though.

[@Neojhun]

There is very little lithium in Lithium ion batteries. The density is soo low it's near impossible for outside water to get to the lithium ion. FYI A 1000lbs EV battery has about 22lbs (10kg) of lithium losely spread through the pack. Soo the Water + Lithium problem is nearly impossible.

[@13thAMG]

Would be good for people easily nauseated by diesel smells. I'm a diver. This is the ideal dive boat concept base.

[@Neojhun]

Small boats typically don't use diesel. It's two stroke Gasoline, smells just as bad.

[@13thAMG]

@@Neojhun Got it. Thank you. Pardon my ignorance. 😉

[@danmittler6321]

Good luck going long distances, just like electric cars, and 5 times more expensive, no thanks

[@bobby-ov9qn]

"I'll take 'NO' for $500 Alex".

[@vinceruland9236]

No thanks. Ill keep using gas engines.

[@CPmrPayne309]

Great idea, but not yet practical. Far too heavy for a boat this size, and unless I missed it, I did not hear any talk about the range of these batteries. Lastly, $300k for little more than a small aluminum v-hull is way overpriced. Hopefully, future advancements reduce weight and price. I, for one, would love to someday see electric boats that could do an Atlantic crossing on one charge!

[@MoCowbell]

You realize how many people said this about cars, right?

[@CPmrPayne309]

@@MoCowbell Cars and boats are two totally different concepts. Weight, and how it is distributed, is a whole different ball game in a boat. I wouldn't take a 7k-pound boat with a length of only 23 feet very far from the marina, and for that, an inflatable rib works just fine; no need to spend $300k.

[@zachary3603]

How many boats do you own? because my boat is this size and has 2x6.4 liter mercruiser engines that weight 500kg each. Adding 1 tonne of weight to the boat. Also those engines cost 50k USD and per day the gas prices are INSANE xD. So yeah, if you want to compare it to your little fishing boat with a 15hp engine on the back, fine. But compare like for like.

[@BillSias-op7xw]

7,000 pounds, you won't tow that with your dad's F-150, or 250! That monohull, cruiser is the wrong type for an electric, a long narrow hull or catamaran is more efficient. Check our "RA" (moat's name) does "the Great Loop", a solar narrow trimaran that is successful for cruising.

[@Bradgilliswhammyman]

f 250 superduty will tow it. I think theycan tow up to 10,000 pounds.

[@markberman8958]

An F-150 can tow it. No problem.

[@markberman8958]

@@Bradgilliswhammyman 22,000 Pound Tow Capacity on the F-250 Super Duty.

[@waynecmontgomery]

Do they catch on fires like Tesla cars? Europe is already using electric ferries.

[@mikediaz7531]

🤮

[@rodhancock3549]

Bull! The future is when the free market says so, not when government pushes people into!

[@beyondfossil]

Over the many many decades, the incredibly wealthy and politically influential petroleum industry never gave you a choice about fossil fuels. Second only to mother nature, most powerful force on Earth is the petroleum industry. Nations have and still go to war *on behalf* of their petroleum industries.

[@Neojhun]

Exactly Free Market is ZERO CHOICE. These should not exist at all. The best free market is a MONOPOLY.

[@skipper369]

the saying "Never put batteries in the bilge" comes to mind when i look at the boat during its build

[@Noosejustice]

Yeah! A computer controlling the operations on a boat sounds like a great idea out on the water. Especially salt water. Hasn't the engineers seen what happens when water gets into a lithium battery?

[@zachary3603]

@@Noosejustice Does your boat live underwater?

[@Neojhun]

Meanwhile Sōryū class Submarine uses Lithium Ion batteries. Your assumptions are wrong.

[@charleskavoukjian3441]

Nice design, kind of like a giant RC boat. I do enjoy being able to fill up on the lake and go back out, would there be fast chargers at docks for these? Or how long would that take? 7000lb’s? That would mean you need a truck most likely to tow it comfortably making it harder to sell to the wide spread market. 300k😂😂😂

[@davidcarlin3850]

Battery technology is still not quite there yet. Also why no solar cells to charge the batteries while it sits out in sunshine ??

[@zachary3603]

The surface area is negligible.

[@1FishinAddict]

Understood these companies need their 5min of fame and early investors/adopters to further developments but no way the boat industry will change because of electric boats anytime soon. Nice toy for the billionaires to collect.

[@tpop3723]

A Hybrid would be better suited for this purpose regarding weight and distance issues.

[@bradfordjhart]

There would be no opportunity for a hybrid to recoup any energy as there's no downhill driving when boating 😂

[@Neojhun]

Yep Turbine Engine series hybrid would be the dream power train.

[@van123446]

please drop the CBS news accent

[@edwardroche2480]

Aluminum is great in freshwater. But saltwater will eat away at aluminum boats. I had a 1967 marionette made in Louisville Kentucky. Do you plan to go to fiberglass for the saltwater versions. The batteries in the bottom of the boat may be exposed to moisture. What is the cruising range of this boat? It looks great and silence on the water is a beautiful thing. I live in South Florida and we have manatees who tend to get run over and killed. Are you working on anything that will alert the manatees to the boats. They don't seem to pay much attention even to gas powered boats. Good luck I would love not to be hearing the noise I hear all day. I live on a houseboat in the Keys.

[@amateurwizard]

I think the best way to avoid harming the fauna would be adapting the propulsion. If it ran something more like a jet ski than an outboard this would help a lot. I can see benefits for range too if you design it to hydro plane.

[@PS-zw4yc]

“The silence”. Sounds just like the gas ones underway from this video. Great concept. Has a way to go. Hope it works

[@MeshDy]

Oh god, why does everyone want things to be electric?

[@amateurwizard]

Because it improves the efficiency by 60% while doing a lot of things that help on a micro and macroscopic scale. Reduced dependency on foreign resources Lower environmental damage (noise pollution, air pollution) Conveniently allows us to tie in all our already electric creature comforts into one system Better performance, & allows for on the fly changes to performance. Simpler maintenance & drive trains (electric motor meet wheels, done) Our grids and steadily going to be more renewable, these allow for complex systems that maintain grid stability and efficient use of energy production from said renewable. (I could explain that better but this comment is already long enough) ...that's why.

[@Neojhun]

High POWER and Reliability. You like being weak and fragile.

[@bryce1916]

Electric cars are know to self combust , what is the plan to escape from this death trap in the middle of a large body of water ? The sales pitch they offer is they are cheaper well at 7000lbs you need a pretty good size truck to haul it and $300000 for this thing is hardly a cheaper day on the water .

[@ExpendableCrumb]

Jump in the water???

[@patmcmahon2121]

Electric boats...13 miles out in the gulf and your battery goes dead.....brilliant

[@Neojhun]

LOL same old recycled joke used on EV Cars. "Drive 50 miles and it'll be dead." You have zero original thought, you are just programmed. Meanwhile the industry seems to be settling on 300 Miles Cars.

[@patmcmahon2121]

@@Neojhun well, you are certainly entitled to your opinion...good day

[@rboddington]

Just had a brand new V8 powered Cobalt delivered. I will stick with gas thanks. No mention at all in this piece about how long it takes to charge the boat, and how many hours of run time you get and at what speeds? That is the key here. I can "charge" my gas boat in 15 mins with a full tank of gas, and run for 5-6 hours at full speed, and still have 2/3 tank left over. These electric boats can't come close to that, not even remotely. Also, the twin stainless props on my V8 Cobalt will easily beat that Arc boat out of the hole shot. Boats don't have a transmission, they are all, "instant torque." So how is that a selling point for an electric boat? I could sit here all day and poke holes in this electric boat. There are so many reasons not to buy one. Also, that quiet electric boat is quite loud, what nonsense are they spouting about it being quiet? Next time send a man who actually knows something about boats.

[@Neojhun]

WTF very few small leisure boats use V8 engines, some don't even use 4 stroke. You clearly don't know much about the segment of boats.

[@Neojhun]

WTF that's a high output 27 footer, thus why it needs a V8 or two. Not at all what this power train is intended for. Just not realistic for what most leisure boaters need.

[@rboddington]

@@Neojhun Whaaaa? Don't even use 4 stroke? Come on! 18 foot bow riders may use 4 cyl engines, but beyond that, the vast majority will be 6 and 8, in the bow rider sport and leisure class.

[@rehsa-zc6zq]

@@Neojhun I'd bet that the overwhelming majority of 350k dollar boats are not small leisure boats, and do use large v8 engines. Who would cross shop a large 350k dollar gas boat and this thing? This would be a novelty for the very rich who already own 2-3 gas powered boats anyways, one being a yacht.

[@rehsa-zc6zq]

@@Neojhun who has made and sold a 2 stroke engine in the last 10 yrs? Nobody makes 2 stroke engines anymore, wtf are you talking about? Evinrude etec were the last of the 2 strokes and they went out of business long ago, and even before, nobody was hardly buying one. They are ALL 4 stroke engines now. Even the small 10hp engines. They are all 4 strokes.

[@kirkg97]

Not in my future i will give up boating

[@MrWaterbugdesign]

Everything is "electric"...with "AI".

[@Neojhun]

Welcome to Reality, sure it's branding. But there is sadly a literal truth to it.

[@ARepublicIfYouCanKeepIt]

Firstly, 40% energy transfer to the water with electric vs. just 8% with fossil fuels. So, the future of boating isn't in question. It is electric. Secondly, $300,000 for a 24' cruiser of this caliber isn't out of line with industry. Boats are luxury items, pure and simple. Thirdly, while ARC as a company and its products is certainly cool. They're not first movers. Others, such as Candela, have similarly impressive offerings...that also carry a luxury price tag. Lastly, moving from gas to electric is one thing. However, it makes much more sense to couple the power plant transition with new designs, such as hydrofoils. Smoother, even quieter and vastly more economical.

[@markberman8958]

Boats are not luxury items. In 2005 a Brand New Mastercraft X-Star was 65K. Today that same boat is 350K. That’s more than 5 times what it cost in 2005. That’s a prime example of Greedflation. There’s absolutely zero reason a boat has to be egregiously expensive. A brand new BMW M4 starts at 78k today. Pretty sure we can sell 24 foot boats for a heck of a lot less than 300K👍

[@woodsplitter3578]

DIESEL!!!!! Is waaaay greener!

[@TeachinTV]

Pricey for a 24-footer. Of course prices will come down as electrical motors find their way into powering more boats. They have been making electric outboard motors (Torqeedo, Mercury) for a few years. It was simply a matter of time before they figured out how to incorporate Tesla/SpaceX technology into marine applications.

[@theotheleo6830]

It's only about ten times more, but think of the fuel savings.

[@TeachinTV]

@@theotheleo6830 I hope recharging that bigass battery is as easy as hooking up to shore power

[@theotheleo6830]

@@TeachinTV It ain't hard, and only takes minutes vs 6-10 hours for the electric variety.

[@claudiaclaudia936]

Get stuck in the middle of the Pacific with electric😂 .....give me DIESEL engines 👌😁

[@DG-nk7jo]

Is there diesel floating around in the water that you can use if you get stranded? The answer is no. But you can connect solar panels to the batteries on the electric boat.😂

[@LouisBackover]

There's no boat 40ft and under that can carry enough deisel to cross the Pacific. Point is moot.

[@Neojhun]

Sure awesome, lets take a 14ft small boat out in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. Great Idea genius.

[@anthonymcneill1465]

No pollution from the 2 cycle engine either. The price point is high, but with time, which will become less of a matter of concern for those who enjoy the water. I wonder if placing solar panels on the front part of the boat could extend the run time while out on the water.

[@Neojhun]

"No pollution from the 2 cycle engine" LOL WTF? Most people call it Two Stroke and they are some of the most dirtiest engines. It's NOT because of GHG CO2, but actually toxic emissions. You don't seem to know much about this subject.

[@TomatoWithARifle]

judging by the harbors around me these captains only take their boat out 1 day out of year which gives it plenty of time to recharge with a few solar panels >.

[@B86432]

for who the rich?

[@bradfordjhart]

That's who buys boats because that's who has money to buy boats

[@PhilipMarcYT]

Water and electricity? Nice combo if you want to end your life. 😆

[@robertjamesonmusic]

Doesn’t work like that numbnuts

[@Neojhun]

Exactly anyone who has ever attempted to use Water + Electricity are all dead. Anyone who has ever attemped to use an Electric powered Water Pumps, SUBMARINEs, Cruise Ships (ABB AziPod), Hot Water Boilers and Pressure Washers are all dead.

[@robertjamesonmusic]

Philip, you do realize that they don’t design these to electrocute people, right? 😂

[@zacpdx]

Until all this extreme weather and or lack of water affects the power grid. Peoples toys won’t be able to work. Electric is not the answer. Does anyone have any idea how bad the mining is?

[@sillywabbit7989]

LA based.... Yeah that's a ez pass 😮

[@Falconryful]

No it won’t. Votes have consequences!

[@alehanjdro1]

Electric Shipping logistics protects marine life from oil leaks and cuts emissions.

[@patwma709]

Southern California boat culture is the best.

[@dh12.]

Now, I can add the threat of electrocution to the threat of possible drowning while on a boat... that's progress😂

[@ericpitre4031]

Plz stop bein a neg nancy. People with money$💵💵will love these. Props to Big E’s team fr Space X

[@claudiaclaudia936]

ELECTRICITY KILLZ

[@jontukagam3888]

This is why we should never banned book n have education more idiotic comments like this give em privileges to be stupid smh 🤦

[@danielwilliams1400]

And without sacrificing the potential for being burned alive!

[@Neojhun]

@@danielwilliams1400 Yep burned alive, surrounded by water.

[@Bradgilliswhammyman]

I'd rather just have a electric bolt on engine...keep your boat design..don't care for it that much.

[@bradfordjhart]

They have solved the battery storage problem, not the power issue that EVs solved that problem

[@OptimizeWithRajan]

It’s a bit 🌈🌈🌈

[@durangomcmurphy1529]

Holy electrocution , Batman ! Nothing goes with electricity like water !!! How SHOCKING !!

[@Neojhun]

Water Pumps, SUBMARINEs , Hot Water Heaters, Steam Ovens, Pressure Washers. I guess they only come in Gas powered. Yep Electricity + Water = Instant death. Every one using these machines is just ghost.

[@Neojhun]

The Japanese navy Sōryū class & Taigei class Submarines both use Lithium Ion batteries. Because the Japanese have no clue how to build Electric Devices. Not like anyone would ever by electric devices from them. /s

[@emersondvortex5882]

@@Neojhun When they malfunction , yes , instant death .

[@Neojhun]

@@emersondvortex5882 Then prevent it from lethal malfunction. These industry has been doing it for decades.

[@tommanley2924]

Hint Hint Electricity & water don't really get along together that well. I guess they will find out the hard way......LOL

[@erichkorman710]

All engines run on electricity. Submarines have run on electric motors underwater for well over the last century. Electric motors use a tiny fraction of the voltage needed to fire each cylinder. And they don't burn or blow up like gas boats routinely do! Don't fear it, learn and you will love the future.

[@tommanley2924]

Using only electricity to explode in a combustion chamber...do tell me more!...You do realize EV's don't use pistons they use electric motors, basically like you find on your homes blower motor. I've been working with and around electric motors since 1978 but I'm sure you know more......LMAO

[@Neojhun]

Meanwhile Taigei class and Sōryū class SUBMARINEs use Lithium Ion Batteries. Because they Japanese have no clue how to build electric devices. Not like anyone would ever buy electric devices from them. Thus why anyone who even atttempts to use Electricity & Water are all dead. Electric Water Pumps, SUBMARINEs, Cruise Ships (ABB AziPod), Hot Water Boilers and Pressure Washers are all useless.

[@Neojhun]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azipod ABB Azipod have been operational on ships for 30 Years. It's been a disaster everyone is dead, they found out the hard way.

[@tommanley2924]

@@Neojhun LOL....Again, military standards are just a little different than civilian standards, keep trying to justify it!!!!!!!!!..Nuclear reactor powers subs, do you think we SERFS will get on in our boats?...LMFAO