The Future Of Enduro Bikes - is Mondraker's Dune The Best Of Both Worlds?

[@IOSAShorts]

Mountain Bike Rider, Subscribed because your videos are always awesome!

[@ThunderStruckMTB]

While pedal assist MTBs are not currently for me but someday might be, my biggest gripe with them is the word analog used to describe mountain bikes.

[@MBRmagazine]

Tbh most of the words used to describe them are kinda grating

[@AC-ws8yv]

Spanish has the best one, being pulmonary bike😂

[@archie68x]

I refer to all mine as “muscle Bikes “ 😜🤘

[@lenolenoleno]

100% this guy gets it. Electric MTB = eMTB Non-Electric MTB = MTB

[@stephenbarnes5850]

Another Great video, love the look and specs but have heard that the Bosch SX motor is quite noisy did you find this to be true, cadence of 110-120 it's just too high for the average e-bike user I love my emtb but at 58 years old I would struggle at that type of cadence 70 to 90 is the ideal range

[@MBRmagazine]

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it! Yes, it’s not the quietest motor out there. Obviously if you want lots of power at lower cadences then something like the Bosch CX is the one to go for.

[@danielhelm9682]

That ticks a lot boxes for enduro riding especially at high speed when the motor cuts out and the weight of the bike needs to be controlled

[@cityproofdad]

oh the duracell is back in another channel 😂😂😂

[@TheMirrorVision]

It's a stunning looking bike!

[@N3AJ]

Can you review the conwa ryvon and compare it with the dune? They are the only 2 enduro sl at the moment

[@MBRmagazine]

Thanks for the tip - we hadn’t seen the Conway. We’ll reach out to them and see if it’s possible. We have lined up a Kenevo SL to test against the Dune 👍

[@eMPHA5ER]

Question: here in my region of good old Germany, we have Winters with longer periods at rndbt -5°. Do I have to store this fucking bike in my flat instead of Garage, because the built-in battery should not be wrecked with THESE temperatures? Or am I able to remove it for "long term storage" during winter?

[@MBRmagazine]

Yeah the battery is not easily removable. What you need is a nice little duvet for the down tube! 😂

[@Jesse_James_]

Over the course of a year, the battery will significantly lose capacity.

[@asifitmatters1]

Move to a country with a better climate!

[@eMPHA5ER]

@@asifitmatters1Sounds legit 😅

[@ZippidyMTB]

Need to see a head to head with the Transition Relay.

[@asifitmatters1]

Having ridden the relay, I would be surprised if the two are similar. The Relay felt like a really good trail/light enduro machine. Pretty sure the mondraker will feel more like a Kenevo SL, which is basically a downhill plow.

[@ZippidyMTB]

@@asifitmatters1 If it does feel like a Kenevo SL with more power; big plus.

[@asifitmatters1]

@@ZippidyMTB well I own a Kenevo SL and I’m not sure that it is a plus for most people. It’s a LOT of bike and it needs a LOT of trail to come alive. I was riding last summer in Andorra and it was fabulous. But on my home trails and in most Bikeparks in Germany where I am currently based it’s just too much bike and doesn’t allow for as much popping and weaving, making the ride a little boring.

[@MBRmagazine]

Plan is to put the Dune up against the Kenevo SL in a head-to-head test. The Dune is definitely not plough - it's still really engaging and dynamic on more mellow tracks.

[@ZippidyMTB]

@@MBRmagazine Through in the Transition Relay and have a 3-way.

[@phmtb]

It's still cant best the all round capabilities of the new Orbea Rise LT with its 630wh battery and 210wh range extender

[@MBRmagazine]

We’ve got an Orbea Rise LT on test at the moment. It’s not quite in the same intended use category as the Dune, but it’s a very capable bike with a great balance of power, weight, and range. 👍

[@coldwill4021]

"The Future Of Enduro Bikes" taking this to its logical conclusion we might as well get an uplift between stages and ride optimised downhill bikes for the descents. Your last point is the only one with any validity if you feel max number of runs is the main criteria to judge success. For me, if I were a serious racer, then a motor assist would be a tool to train more.

[@williambeckerson6791]

I like!

[@williambeckerson6791]

Great review

[@K1ngJame5-mtb]

@mbr does the Bosch sx motor rattle on the descents while coasting?!?

[@MBRmagazine]

To some degree, but it varies between individual motors and bikes.

[@K1ngJame5-mtb]

@@MBRmagazine if it rattles/clunks like the Bosch CX or shimano ep8…no thanks lol

[@MBRmagazine]

Not as bad as either in our experience, but it varies for both the CX and Shimano units - some are barely noticeable, while some are really annoying.

[@K1ngJame5-mtb]

@@MBRmagazinehow does the Bosch sx motor sound on the dune on the descents? Some carbon frames make the rattle louder cause it resinates through the frame.

[@22Jeffers]

There’s no ‘C’ in Mondraker. Surely it’s pronounced rake not rack?

[@MBRmagazine]

You may well be right!

[@alexerioeduardo2844]

Twelve grand? Jog on.

[@romero424]

Full fat enduro e bike

[@cityproofdad]

enduracell for sure😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@musiqueetmontagne]

Looks like a great bike, especially for ageing riders that still want some fun..

[@eBikerHowie]

Please leave the adverts to the marketing companies.

[@Jesse_James_]

This is a great bike, but it lacks a full 85hm motor and a removable battery for 600-750wh !!!!

[@asifitmatters1]

I ride a Kenevo SL and a Forestal Siryon and I really appreciate the „half“ motor, but most people want full power and will continue to want it. The reality is that these bikes are a niche product, made for riders that actually ride hard and the lack of power makes it a no go for overbiked dentists and grandads, who unfortunately make up the majority of bike buyers. So no matter how good the engineering gets on this category it will never be a popular choice.

[@MBRmagazine]

Yep, less power is always going to be a tough sell. You really need to test ride a diet e-bike properly to experience the advantages, and that's not always an option.

[@asifitmatters1]

@@MBRmagazine the issue with diet bikes is that you actually need to have a pretty high riding ability to be able to distinguish or utilize the advantages. The average rider simply isn’t equipped to feel a difference beyond the “lack of power”.

[@MBRmagazine]

Largely agree, but plenty of intermediate riders do notice the weight difference.

[@tomquimby8669]

Point 2 total rubbish! pedaling at 120 rpm rapidly makes you feel really old not 20 years younger.

[@MBRmagazine]

Well, it’s 110rpm but we get your point. At 90rpm it’s still giving around 4-500 watts, so hardly nothing.

[@MTBGeordieDownSouth]

110 rpm is for them times when you do a little sprint to get you up a very steep bit of tech, not riding along your trail centre trails or cruising, it's to give you the grunt to clear them, at 400-500 watts you'll be getting significantly more than my Trek Fuel Exe with the TQ-HPR50 so it's significant.

[@0T13]

I dont have a problem with ebikes but they need there own trails. They ruin the ground for lighter bikes.

[@MTB_OTB]

This bike weighs about the same as my Ripmo AF with coil shocks and beefy enduro tires.

[@kookiethebear]

And the Mondraker Dune XR (in the video) only retails for $12k USD...what a bargain compared to an analog bike! *sarcasm*

[@Mockle07]

Plenty of normal bikes (non EMTBs) cost the same or more, what’s your point?

[@MBRmagazine]

True but you can get the same frame and motor for just over half the price.

[@Jesse_James_]

All bicycles with small non-removable batteries are absolutely useless. 400+250 is too little for a good ride!

[@Mockle07]

lol well that’s not true for all/most riders is it?! 🤦🏼‍♂️😂

[@asifitmatters1]

Pretty sure you wear Lycra when you ride…

[@ssjj9584]

Future of enduro is motor bikes? 🤮 I guess these days people love to pay their way up the mountain. Can’t wait until they take the physical aspect out of all sports to make them easier. Surfing: auto paddle Gyms with fake weights to make it easier/quicker and more fun. Boxing with no face punches because it’s more fun Football with no hitting What makes sports great is because they’re HARD.

[@MBRmagazine]

Guess it’s not for you then!

[@Mockle07]

I’m already fit, I ride XC for training also… if I want to ride an ebike I will. You can cry about it all you like, it won’t effect my enjoyment one bit ✌🏻

[@jeanmarc_in_Hudson]

Interesting to still see these comments in 2024! Don't like, don't buy... I guess when cars came about, there were people who liked horses better, that's fine...

[@MBRmagazine]

Ha!

[@asifitmatters1]

That’s horse crap. It doesn’t take anything out of the physical part. In the time it takes you to do one run I can do two, so there’s no loss of effort. You’re just less tired for the downhill, which makes sense, since the downhill is the dangerous part. Never heard of anyone breaking their collar bone on a climb…

[@mrsith1402]

Ebikes are wrong

[@komoonkh]

Well, no. They are not for everyone tho.

[@hendrikd6664]

You are wrong.

[@Alexander-fu1zd]

Bored of these comments since 2019.

[@frankmatibs8076]

Can’t afford one then

[@frankmatibs8076]

An my answer was just as stupid and unhelpful as your comment

[@Andy-co6pn]

"Who are mid power E enduro bikes really for"....the very rich