The Future of Kaladin Stormblessed | Stormlight Archive Lore

[@ieyris9467]

Man i had no idea kaladians oaths were foreshadowed in death rattles. ive literally been sitting here for ten minutes rethinking my entire life

[@jordansage1842]

my brain exploded at that realization

[@Kit_Mundo]

"Honor is dead, But ill see what i can do" -Kal

[@rittergal7]

I just love Kaladin and Syl so much....I don't want to lose either one of them.

[@SnakeAndTurtleQigong]

Yup. I feel very invested in him. It makes me nervous!! Don’t destroy me Brandon! 😭

[@TLhikan]

Kaladin as a Shard would be both amazing and terrifying. We’ve seen what happens when good and kind men have to deal with literally divine levels of single-mindedness. What will happen when Kaladin decides that he *must* protect the entire world-or the entire cosmere?

[@TheDiabeticGameMaster]

well, they are different people but that is basically what is going on with Taravangian. He feels he MUST save EVERYTHING as he is the only one who can see the whole picture, first, after Gavilar's death but ESPECIALLY now that he has Ascended.

[@christianrich8316]

Maybe Kaladin was infused somehow with the shadow of honor previously and that is why he is referred to as a child of him

[@joshmccarty8800]

He has basically been in shard training lol. He learned in book four he can’t save everyone 🤷‍♂️

[@Sheija]

On Kaladin's feat deflecting the storm not being repeated, he repeats and exceeds it in the next book - when he swears the Fourth Ideal in RoW and saves Lirin he commands thousands of windspren to break the storm.

[@madalynnr9940]

On the one hand, Cultivation "cultivating" replacement vessels for the shards with Taravangian, Dalinar, and Lift makes so much sense. On the other hand, Kaladin's arc is much more tied to Honor than Dalinar that Kaladin is a better fit for the shard. And Dalinar's "unite them" feels like he's supposed to reforge Adonalsium. Anything else just feels too small.

[@timotea7109]

like that thot process... would dalinar need to hold a shard to reforge adonalsium or i wonder if he could do it with his bondsmith powers which could let kaladin hold the shard at least for a little while

[@madalynnr9940]

@@timotea7109 Plus it makes the most sense for the Honor Shard to be the one that feels regret for the shattering of Adonalsium and feel Honor bound to put it right by leaving the visions and messages to "unite them" and correct the wrong that was done

[@cohesian1]

I’m betting Dalinar as a Bondsmith with a Dwanshard, like the one Hoid has/had would likely make it possible for him to reforge adonalsium if not at least Honor. And then later Adonalsium could maybe be reunited?

[@Random-sg2vm]

I never thought if it this way! Mind. Blown. She Culitivated possible successors for each of Roshar's Shards! The only issue I have with this, is that I agree that Kal's journey seems more likely to cultimate in him ascending as Honor than Dalinar, whom I agree might unite Adonalsium

[@joshmccarty8800]

Except mistborn era four or five legal ever it is up to is the finally. Mistborn has always been the center of the story.

[@GardenGnome118118]

Mr Cremling you’re spoiling us

[@althor1247]

A counter to the Syl theory, even after what happened to her in WoR 4:09 , Kaladin was referred to as a child of Tanavast. I personally suspect the title either has something to do with qualities of character, like Kaladin has the closest personality to Tanavast before his ascension, or there is something special about him in some other way, Idk, its one of my biggest questions that is very likely answered in LESS THAN A YEAR. Im so stoked to read it. And also that whole thing with the spear is pretty damning, specifically the death rattle.

[@박경택-h3p]

One bulk of why kaladin survived the attack on the sibling while all the other radients fell unconscious was because of kaladin's closeness to tanavast. Whatever tanavast wanted the knights radient to be and act, Kaladin did it over the top. This aligns with why kaladin is called the child of tanavast and why I think kaladin will ascend. (all this was answered by brandon in a q&a) Maybe dalinar's quest is to unite the splintered honor shard?

[@hikinginidaho]

I did a character only read through of the 4 books of Stormlight. It was incredible. you end up reading a bunch of chapters over several times but reading kaladin only all the way through was incredible.

[@CombativeRoboGuy]

I have been considering doing that for while, although I haven’t gotten around to it yet. How did you deal with the knights radiant chapters that jump between POVs? Did you just hunt for the Kaladin POV in those chapters when you did the Kaladin only read through?

[@hikinginidaho]

@@CombativeRoboGuy yeah, it depended on the chapter and how mixed up it was. Sometimes I just read the whole chapter on the Kaladin one (which I did first) and then just skimmed it on the Dalinar/Adolin (which I did second). Sometimes it's a great scene/battle/etc and I read that chapter several times. No rules here- do what you feel makes sense for you. You will pick up a lot on a second read through no matter how you do it. Interestingly Shallan's character arc was probably the one that gave me the most insight after doing her read through.

[@kmichaelkillz]

I finished the series about 2 weeks ago, and that’s all I’ve been doing since then lol- just reading and rereading Kaladin’s parts!

[@Wordiestpandora]

Let's go ! Child of tanavast ! * wow the music and visuals in this are incredible ! the pacing and questions really make me wonder what will happen next !!!

[@johnwesthead4209]

The stormlight books are some of my favourites, but are tricky to understand EVERYTHING thats goes on. Your videos are a massive help. Thanks mate🎉

[@LostinDiscovery]

Thanks for watching man!

[@johnwesthead4209]

@@LostinDiscovery No problem! Cant wait for Wind & Truth! Strength before weakness😎

[@wobblyboots5814]

Fantastic video!! I started the way of kings in late October. I’m now on chapter 50 of rhythm of war… I LOVE THIS SERIES and can’t stop thinking about it! So glad I found you guys

[@LostinDiscovery]

Thanks!! Enjoy the RoW Sanderlanche!

[@Narwall23]

Oh gods... it makes so much sense! Although I would love to see Kaladin remain human and live the rest of his life in peace. Him becoming Honor feels like damning him to an eternity of struggle with his depression Let the poor man rest 😢💙

[@keniafarias9576]

That’s exactly how I feel

[@matthewmichaelcrown3643]

DEPRESSION will be left far behind. Alot of depression is just biochemical, lack of sun, over stress, using up neurotransmitters. It is not part of the person but a phase.

[@kmichaelkillz]

Freaking same dude. Like please please let him just invent group therapy and play blocks with his brother.😭😭😭

[@prestonhart5927]

“Honour is dead .. but I will see what I can do”

[@Dank_Engine]

Chills. Every. Time.

[@matadorman8445]

AND FOR MY BOON!

[@Random-sg2vm]

​@@matadorman8445 Cringe. Everytime. LOL But the Honor is dead line is so epic I can forgive the secondhand embarrassment

[@happykaladin78]

As long as our boy is happy

[@StormBlessedxo]

agreed

[@brettmurray2473]

I just caught up with the pod, and then this drops. The king of cosmere content is back. Looking forward to the rest of the journey with your cremling self and Himmy Stormblessed. As well as your lore videos as always. Your type of theory crafting just hits with the way I think too.

[@LostinDiscovery]

Thanks man!

[@Bravd]

Sunlit man spoiler When Hoid is about to appear to Nomad , Nomad says “Kal?” I assume he this means that Kal isn’t dead and has to have accended with a shard/dawnsard or become a herald right?

[@22ccor]

i was trying to figure out why "nomad" would think it was Kal, as if he longed to see kadadin because Kal was no longer of the living, this theory makes sense.

[@cohesian1]

@@22ccortoo be fair, even if he had last seen Kal living, couldn’t he have passed by then most likely due to age since Nomad was on the run for decades? Been a bit since I read Sunlit Man so I don’t have timelines ready in my mind.

[@IAmSilverlined]

Ari Ibarra - if you ever happen to stumble upon this comment, that piece you did of Golden Odium is beyond stellar. Easily the coolest version of Odium I have ever seen. Well fucking done!

[@newbiesama]

0:52 wow that headline looks awesome in the leatherbound. I;m glad I added oen the Lb from way of kings on the backerkit for LB of WoR.

[@MrGrizzly7392]

I know you've been back for a while with Stormlight contennt, but I'm only now getting back to your videos. I'm LOVING them. About to dive deep in the podcast and everything else!

[@LostinDiscovery]

Thank you!!

[@Pallet_Town_woodworks]

A podcast episode and a new video within 2 days of each other? It must be my birthday or something. Thank you for all the hard work you put into everything!

[@LostinDiscovery]

Thank you for supporting it!

[@gabrielt.2734]

A video :0 and an incredibly beautiful one at that.

[@marcelle7841]

My pet theory is that upon swearing the 5th ideal syl and Kaladin merge and take up honors shard as Dalinar reforges it.

[@stevenhedge2850]

Except honors shard is splintered and I highly doubt just making a 5th oath will fix it

[@newbiesama]

The only thing you haven't mentioned: The 5th ideal. We know for the skybrakers it means becoming LAw. But we don't know what it does to a power set yet. We don't even know if any previous Radiant made it to the 5th ideal. So unless the 5th ideal will let him master storms, I don't think the fifth book wil have any link between Kaladin and becoming Honor But another Death Rattle taht can be counted: "Three of sixteen ruled, but now the Broken One reigns" Although I think this will be the end of the entire series. But Kaladin often talks about being broken: "Life breaks us, Teft. Then we fill the cracks with something stronger.” "‘I’m not some glorious knight of ancient days. I’m a broken man. Do you hear me Syl? I’m broken."

[@fhengal]

The three of the sixteen could be a reference to Honor, Cultivation, and Odium. Or, perhaps, the Broken One is just a reference to Odium.

[@reecezwoos5]

or the broken shard of honor reigning

[@studynot757]

I’ve always thought of it as simply an honorific given him by the Stormfather because they can feel how deeply Kaladin embodies Honor and the Tanavast interpretation of it

[@fhengal]

yeah, it could simply be a qualitative metaphor, meaning that his convictions and character remind him so much of Honor, rather than anything of metaphysical or ontological significance.

[@aditigoyal7912]

Have you noticed that Kaladin rides the storm multiple times, in book 1 when he has not even become radiant! It is so strange that Stormfather allows it. It took Dalinar becoming his bondsmith and taking the third oath to manage it in book 4! But Kaladin has done it multiple times!

[@matthewmichaelcrown3643]

THE WINDS ARE MINE...

[@kairi99roxas]

Your voice is so pleasant to listen too

[@illumstern8831]

I don't see any other fate for Kaladin than to take up Honor. With Kaladin's depression and suicidal tendencies, a self-sacrifice just FEELS wrong, even a little crass. And, with his newfound purpose of protecting through mental health... who better than Kaladin to take up the Shard that could help the Radiants work through their problems?

[@cookiediangelo8511]

Imagine kaladin giving visions to people during highstorms. Making people come to a nice comfy room with a sofa, and kaladin being therapist to litteraly everyone on roshar cause he can, cause he's honor and has that capacity. People come from all over the cosmere for his famous therapy sessions that take place during highstorms. An entire planet of people with excelent mental health. Yeah, that would be way too happy an ending.

[@Surgebinds]

Thank you so much

[@purposebuilt1]

*Spoiler alert. Within the sample chapter of Stormlight 5, Hoid hands Kaladin a flute and tells him that Kaladin must learn to play the flute without playing it! I was totally confused by this statement until I remembered this death rattle by Cenn. He sees a vision: "He watches! The black piper in the night. He holds us in his palm... playing a tune that no man can hear!" This isn't a reference to Hoid in the Coppermind so who could this be, Kaladin post ascension of some sort?

[@cookiediangelo8511]

I feel like it must be. Too much of a coincidence. "The black piper in the night" could refer to kaladin, or maybe refers to someone else who kaladin has to out-flute. "He watches" seems omenious.

[@Wonderwall627]

Really cool analysis. I am excited to reread the series with 5 coming

[@carlbanner3120]

Amazing video. Keep up the good work.

[@CharlesZane_]

We have seen Kaladin deflect the highstorm again, only it was a different application of the same ability. In RoW when he speaks his fourth ideal, he created a tunnel through the storm leading to his father. I assume it’s a use of the surge adhesion. I’d like to know if that’s something all Windrunner’s can do, or is Kaladin more powerful than any other? I suspect it’s the later because of Syl.

[@FunFantasyBooks]

This video was amazing beginning to end! My time to re-read Stormlight has arrived 😌

[@M1cr0Man1a]

I love lost in Roshar, but another theory video. Let’s gooo

[@johnny2003]

My favorite bridge man is Rock.

[@CosmereFinatic]

What a great fucking video. You editing is top tier. can't wait for what else is to come! Loving the POD as well!

[@LostinDiscovery]

Cheers!

[@StormBlessedxo]

I've watched a lot of your videos, please continue to make them. Storms these are great!

[@LostinDiscovery]

Cheers!

[@miandagny]

Finally not just a podcast re/upload.

[@naoden]

Love your videos and the podcast! It's the number one podcast I look forward to every week! I think it would be awesome if you did a deep dive of Vasher. I feel like I'm not fully grasping his history and his impact on Nalthis and the cosmere. You would be the perfect man for the job!

[@LostinDiscovery]

Thank you! I might just look into that after I reread WB (Most likely after TWOK)

[@miksapribus2140]

Great video Mr Cremling! I don't know from where we now that a sliver of Tanavast survived, but could it be the Susfather? Or the explanation of the Stormfather acting out of character? To respond to your questions, I think Honor being reforged would not happen before theend of book 8, if it happens before the end of 10. The threat of Taravangian would be smaller if there was a trustworthy shard on roshar as well. I think Kaladin might say the fifth oath in the next book, but I don't see how it would coincide with the last deathrattle, as the previous ones were him saying an oath, and I think those events are clearer for futuresight, than him just giving up.

[@chikodusty]

I honestly think he's been set up to die. He mirrors Taln so much that I can't help but think he's gonna die winning an impossible battle. He also mentioned (RoW) how he always knew it would "end like this," referring to him fighting hordes in complete darkness.

[@fore5489]

great as always mate

[@LostinDiscovery]

Thanks man!

[@anishkaul9133]

Unite them! Loved the implications here!

[@hikinginidaho]

Whoa! Unite them does take on a very very different meaning if it refers to "unite the pieces of honor".....

[@keniafarias9576]

Great video Christian!!!

[@LostinDiscovery]

Thanks!

[@patriciamiller1523]

The little tease of released book 5 that I have read had some interesting interactions between Syl and Kaladin where she appeared full sized and more life like. I am wondering what this could mean for their relationship and their powers. Is she becoming more real? Does their bond grow? If Kaladin becomes Honor, does she become something else too? Just wondering...

[@Kat-gp6gj]

What, what?! Where did you see these book 5 previews?!?

[@patriciamiller1523]

Saw it attached to a youtube video a while ago. It had the new prologue and some rough drafts from Part 5. @@Kat-gp6gj

[@lahuseira]

Awesome work, all your videos on Roshar. We know what is the toweer, but what is the crown?

[@daisydaswani689]

So, one thing to note at about 8:00 you mention he never does it again, however in RoW after the 4th oath wind spren create a cone of calm through the storm

[@MajorReynolds92]

i'm going to push back on the death rattle that goes "The death is my life, the strength becomes my weakness, the journey has ended." considering that it's collected secondhand and reportedly from a "scholar of some renown" it seems to me that it could just be some guy who knew a few things about the death rattles too and just wanted to cement himself into history in some way shape or form, people in real life have done similar things knowing they were going to die soon to try and create some legend or legacy for themselves after their passing, even the Silent Gatherers consider it "questionable" at best

[@UnalloyedLore]

Maybe this one refers to old sigzil. Nomad the wanderer, he who cast off oaths.

[@LostinDiscovery]

I feel that! Could be a red herring from Sando for sure.

[@jonbelakio]

I really enjoyed reading stormlight archive so far but man a lot of this stuff went right over my head lol i just read them enjoyed them and that was about it

[@Drakshl]

Honour reforming from the honourspren might also potentially make sense in terms of one of the covid project books explaining part of a characters story

[@UnalloyedLore]

Don't quote me on this but i think Eshonai is at one point called child of odium. Either just before she took stormform or while in the flooded chasms.

[@LillianRhodes-gg4qg]

I've had some similar ideas to some of the things you mentioned. I do believe that Kaladin will become Honor, we know the splinters of honor don't exactly go away, and I believe that he sometimes "touches" a splinter of Honor...I believe the times he does this is exactly when he is called Child of Tanavast. Now I do think Dalinar will be the one to unite the splinters and recreate the shard itself, but that he will not (and probably could not) take up the shard himself.

[@Sheija]

“Light grows so distant. The storm never stops. I am broken, and all around me have died. I weep for the end of all things. He has won. Oh, he has beaten us. ” I think this is a more likely candidate for Kaladin's final death rattle as it is in first person, it continues the storm motif that carries through the others, and it is classic Kaladin to survive when all around him die.

[@Kat-gp6gj]

Ouch, gosh, this would be so horribly painful. I hope Kaladin doesn't have to suffer like that. He's already been through enough.

[@Ghost-Toast819]

i think dalinar becomes odiums champion and that releases the stormfather fro his bounds and syl and the stormfather help kaladin to take up the role of honors vestige

[@GBCxPrime]

Fantastic.

[@Shaz1993xoxo]

One thing that I'd be interested to find out is, would Kaladin be referred to as Son/Child of Tanavast before he's left out to die in the high storm? Is it perhaps possible that before the Stormfather spoke to him a small part of Tanavast's cognitive shadow split from Stormfather... perhaps intentionally, or simply because of his budding bond with Syl.

[@joshmccarty8800]

I’m glad I’m not the only one seeing Kal becoming a shard. He hasn’t been given a relationship so he doesn’t have anyone to miss. If Vin had ascended she couldn’t have been with Ellen unless he became Ruin which no. Syl is always referred to as the ancient daughter and a significant honor Spren giving him a link to the power of honor. It’s so obvious and everyone is obsessing over sylden.

[@amandadamatta_]

I'm pretty pretty sure Cal will ascend. I don't know if it'll happen at book 5 or at the next arch, but upon doing my third reread of the series, the foreshadowing Sanderson does to Kal's ascension is right at our faces.

[@Sheija]

I hope Kaladin takes up Honor and Odium and becomes War. A big part of his relationship with the spear is that he fights with feeling - he talks about it in the chasm kata scene. Odium calls himself Passion criticises Honor for caring more about oaths than people. Kaladin could be someone who can reconcile both.

[@oceanwater6887]

Then he could be like the other combo shard guy! No spoilers

[@itstrbo]

It's too obvious. Sanderson had a similar setup in Mistborn. I think Adolin gets the shard of Honor, he's always been there doing the right thing always.

[@Sheija]

@@itstrbo Adolin doesn’t fit Honor by character or thematically. “Too obvious” is another way of saying it fits narratively, and going a different way just because it’s unexpected is cheap. If he goes another way that makes sense for the characters I’m here for it. But miss me with the ‘subverting expectations’ shtick.

[@itstrbo]

@Mwezi828 if you read Sanderson's other works, he has a tendency to bury the lead on characters. In Mistborn, it definitely seemed as though the hero of ages was going to be certain character right up until the very end, and Warbreaker also does this a bit... I'm not saying it's cheap. I'm just saying it fits Sanderson's M.O.

[@ShatteredAce]

Another thing, "Kaladin is currently immune to the Thrill, although he may have felt it in the past", coming from Coppermind, in the trivia section about Kaladin. My suspicion is that he has investiture from Honor, or is in proximity to it (Syl) to shield him from the effects. Or, it's also possible that his very nature has shielded him from being susceptible to the Thrill. But I suspect that regardless of what his deal with the Thrill is, he has exposure to something lingering from Honor or Tanavast. Maybe Syl herself was invested while she was slumbering? Cause Honor died after the Recreance, and Syl was slumbering by that point. I think this could point to a gathering of splinters to reforge Honor. She also notably speaks in small caps, which is a first for spren, and the only instance; prior to Kaladin swearing the 3rd Ideal. This could all be a stretch for all I know, but I feel like there is some meat on this bone.

[@matthewmichaelcrown3643]

Kaladin will lead the armies in retaking those "Halls" of something I can't recall.

[@durvilemayfieldsr7150]

Syl attempted to "deflect the Storm" when Kal was strung up to face the judgement of the Stormfather

[@elcee8]

Yey! A video dedicated to my favorite fictional character (tied only with Corazon from One Piece). I believe Kaladin will take the place of Jezrien, the new patron Herald of the Windrunners.

[@obeiitheking2276]

Wasn't it said that if a person lived out their lives following the ideals of a radiant before bonding a spren that they typically have extra perks. Could him holding the storm back be an extra perk? His desire to protect is so extreme that he manifests extra powers. So far I haven't seen another windrunner that cares as much as him.

[@lord_kelsier4007]

Oh its so GREAT i can not wait for SL 5 but i must wait longer as You because the Germen trenslation need time and i am not good enougth to read such a book in english

[@mndrew1]

You ignored the possibility that the traditional European mythological pattern is being followed and Tanavast just got busy with Kaladin's mom.

[@r3kk3n54]

bow chika bow bow

[@danjohn8371]

I'm calling it now, Aidalin will become the next Honor. Sanderson wants us to assume if anyone would take up that mantle, it would be Kaladin or Dalinar. But I think he's been writing Aidalins character development to be the perfect candidate (eventually). Example, not bonding a spren and his loyalty to his dead blade or honoring the memory of Maya. Then take into account him going on trial for all humans.

[@mysticmagpie9596]

A crazy theory I've been thinking about for a bit bit now is that both Dalanar and Kaladin will take up Honor simultaneously and split the shard, kind of the opposite of what happened in Mistborn. This assumes the baby champion theory is correct and Dalanar loses the contest of champions. Teravodium then has full control of Dalanar, knowing full well that he has some strange connection to Honor due to his ability to summon Honor's perpendicularity, and instructs him to take up the shard of honor, likely sacrificing the stormfather in the process to facilitate (and making a "stormlight archive" necessary since investiture on the planet is no longer readily available). However, some forces among the radients, likely led by Wit realizing that something strange is going on with Odium after their strange interaction in the epilogue of RoW, realize that something has changed and the contest of champions will not go as intended and they will likely lose Dalinar and thus control of what remains of Honor (e.g. access to the perpendicularity), and thus start looking for a replacement, the most likely being Kaladin due to his alignement with Honor's intent. Thus, I think that after the contest of champions both will simultaneously attempt to ascend and split the shard. This would set up the continuing conflict in the back half - Odium has gained power but not won, so the battle continues. Moreover, this split would likely change the rules of the game - Odium's army would have more access to and control over a form of stormlight. There is also a possibility in my mind that this may change the battleground - we know from WoBs that shards are to some extent trapped on the worlds they invest, but if you have two new shards, each on a seperate side of this war, that cannabalized much of the investature on Roshar to ascend, they may become more mobile, which would cause the battle to spread to the rest of the cosmere. This trend would be in-line with a lot of what Brandon seems to be doing with the cosmere, allowing characters and even the magic systems to move to other worlds. It could even have a role with how future radidents are clearly able to get off-world, something which Brandon has stated is almost impossible during the time when SA takes place. All in all, this is probably just a bit of a crackpot theory, particularly as I am not someone who goes deep into analyzing all of the death rattles, but it is something that I think would be an interesting development for the cosmere

[@jaredbrady5566]

I always figured that Taln would be the vessel for The reforged Honor.

[@SoluhoneV]

just pre ordered wind and truth

[@thestranger2190]

I think Kal dies sacrificing himself to save the day, leaving behind a cognitive shadow. Dalinar will unsplinter Honor. Idk if he’ll take the mantle though. I could see something less straight forward happening here since it’ll be the most active we’ve seen shards so far in the cosmere

[@s.p.8508]

Every time I hear someone bring up the theory that Dalinar or someone along those lines reforms the shard it just leaves me with a bad feeling. Shards being shattered is one of the largest aspects of the Cosmere that provides a sense of high stakes for even the gods. Odium’s entire plan was to shatter all the shards except himself. Shattering a shard is series business, and Brandon hasn’t even confirmed whether reforming one is possible from what I understand. You are telling me that a human can reform a piece of infinity (a shard) that has been splintered? If that is the case, it seriously decreases the stakes of the story and of every shattering thus far, as they can simply just be reformed like new. I have never liked that idea and I really hope Brandon doesn’t do it. As far as my theory on Kaladin’s fate goes, I think there are 2 options: 1. The saddest (and imo most likely) option is that he dies in book 5. His arc is almost at an end. I don’t see Brandon giving Kal a happy ending, I just dont. I think he sacrifices himself to save the rest of humanity, giving the ultimate sacrifice and embodying the ideals of what it means to be a Windrunner. 2. He becomes a herald and travels to Braize to give the humans of Roshar some respite. Overall, I am very excited and nervous to see what happens to my favorite fictional character of all time. I am prepared to have my heart shattered, but we shall see.

[@tonykuriger573]

I saw a Q and A recently where he hinted it was possible but that a reforged shard would not necessarily be the same as before it was splintered.

[@SeanRundell]

Oh gosh this got me thinking... We know that Dalinar has experienced almost having a Bond forcibly stolen via Connection... could Dalinar, in order to win/reform Honor, take Kal's Bond with Syl? Or from the other side, to 'take up the tower, crown and spear', maybe he GIFT his Bond to the Stormfather to Kaladin?

[@Novasux]

I think adolin will become honor in some sort of way after he heals maya and saves the day in peak Sanderson fashion

[@tairbolgario538]

So my theory! I do think Kaladin will become Honor, though I am not sure how. However, I have a bit of a theory of his final ideal. Everyone was about further in regards to protecting. Those who need it, that he can't discriminate when it comes to protecting and accept that he can't protect everyone. I think the next step is to understand his role isn't to protect, but rather to make sure that in the end, others don't need his protection. That in the end, he has to let go of that too and instead help others grow so that they can fend for themselves.

[@flesruoYkcuFoGuoY]

I have a fun theory; Kal gets a splintered shard of Honor stuffed into his dead corpse's heart, and he ascends to something in between a Herald and Honor. I also think the ten orders would be relevant to that kind of resurrection.

[@joshmccarty8800]

Also in sunlit man sig sil thinks its kal trying to contact him through the spiritual connection only to find out it was Hoid. The only reason Kal would be around to contact him thousands of years in the future is if he becomes a supernatural being of some sort.

[@TheDiabeticGameMaster]

People make a big point that Nomad, leading up to his brief chat with Hoid, thinks that he sees Kaladin. Of course, he doesn't but some people take this to mean that Nomad believes Kaladin to still be alive at this time, even though it is hundreds? of years later. If he were a Shard, that could not only explain how he is alive but also how he could have believably gotten to this strange planet in the middle of nowhere. Though, i , personally, just think that Nomad mistook what he saw and was lonely so, seeing his friend there, even though he knew it was impossible, he was not going to question it right then, lol.

[@adamboyce8404]

he says up to rythm of war but I believe one of the biggest indicators for kaladins future is in sunlight man!

[@robertogerendas]

Best video ever

[@Kestrel990]

Wow, I had no idea that the death rattles forshawdowed so much

[@stevencooney3347]

I don’t think falling outside the “chosen one” trope means that Kaladin can’t pick up the shard of Honor. Although Sazed obviously was an example of this trope, Taravangian certainly isn’t, so it’s not a necessity to be chosen.

[@samroth7995]

“The journey has ended” doesn’t need to be interpreted as the end to his life. His final ideal might have to do with knowing when NOT to protect, so his strength (morals) won’t allow him to save someone he thinks he should protect (Dalinar in the battle?) which makes him feel weak or powerless.. the journey has ended here might mean the conclusion of the main arc.

[@BartasRapowanie]

SPOILERS FOR MISTBORN/SECRET HISTORY I’m not so sure about Kaladin becoming Honor’s vessel. If the death rattle „death is my life..” is about him I doubt it’s referring to ascending as we’ve seen Kelsier be able to give the power up after using it. So in theory taking up a shard wouldn’t necessarily be death for Kaladin as he would be able to give the power up and be back to his body. Of course this might just be a metaphor, for his „mortality being over”, not actual death, which makes sense now that I think about it And there is also discussion if what Kelsier did is replicable since his situation was rather unusual (being a cognitive shadow, bonded to power and all that) Regardless can’t way to see what Brando has in store for us, feeling this gonna have the biggest sanderlanche to date

[@joshuamaher614]

kaladin is bae

[@Dank_Engine]

Kaladin is the closest thing to Jesus that Sanderson has ever written and given Brandon’s penchant for making deities of characters, Kaladin will almost certainly ascend

[@ramspencer5492]

Odium came later... With humans. He's alien to the planet. Honor and cultivation were the original shards of Roshar. Era two is only 5 or 10 years after era One ... Unlike Mistborn. It's not like we spoke expect a big cast change. The way I read the scene in the Sunlit Man where "Nomad" meet with Hoid and at first thought he was seeing Kal, was like he was seeing more than just a long dead ghost.

[@mikeriggs3891]

Shash Brand! (Throws gang sign)

[@ferminballesteros7462]

My theory is very basisc: Dalinar will lose the duel, leading to kaladin taking the oath to "lead humanty" (I think this because we have seen the protection side of the windruners in his oaths, but not the ledearship aspect of them), and he will go on to comand humanity's armys on the second age (sorry if there are any typos, english is a second language)

[@danielgibbons63]

Kaladin will replace the stormfather and start the journey of collecting the essence that is honor. It was Syl's chosen task, the stormfather spren was always a placeholder. Todium will destroy the stormfather spren right before the duel crippling Dalinar. That energy/essence source then flows to Kaladin. The story of fleet along with plenty of other nuggets point in this direction. Hoid "The body died but not the will, within the wind his sould did rise, to win the race and claim the dawn, forever strong forever fast forever free to raced the wind. ( I think the claim the dawn is he will protect Rysn and the dawnshard). Kaladin gets depressed during the weeping because he is already connected to the storm. During the fight the the defeted one he yells " I am eternal, I am the storm. Moash states that is how you break a storm to the defeated one. They came from the pit, two dead men, a heart in their hand and I know that I have seen true glory. Kaladin in Szeth after killing the heart of the revel and cleansing Shinovar. He must pick it up the fallen title, the tower, the crown and the spear refers to Kaladin, the title is Honor, the tower was his whole storyling in ROW, the crown as the new king of the heralds and radiants and the spear. The flute is vital as is Renaran to protect Kaladin from Odium so that his future can not be seen. The old Giffer tells Moash "boy that makes about as much sense as the stormfather playing the flute". The whole point of the Wandersail story was to teach Kal about the Origin, responsibility and how devoted followers can be. Lastly a lot of people ardents included have started seeing Kaladin as divine and will pray to him for protection especially when he becomes the stormfather and sees his roll as protecting and helping people during the storm. They will revere him.

[@masalapeanuts]

I just thought of a tin foil theory as I was watching the video. Anyways, I was wondering, what if Syl is directly related to the power of Honor in some way? I know she had a radiant bonded earlier, but what if some power of the shard of Honor when it was being splintered transferred to Syl as a way to preserve it or tap into it through the radiant bond? So, Kaladin being able to tap into this power makes him the Child of Tanavast…. 😂😂

[@mmckethan89]

“I am a stick.”

[@datmarshy]

Bro knows how to produce a video. I’ll tell you that

[@johnny2003]

My favorite bridgeman is rock.

[@ArtSnob101]

Oh no. Kaladin us in danger i think. What of that rattle about the suckling child? Maybe its kaladin a suckling god child?

[@bubsyoutube]

Y’all think Sanderson is gonna pull a virgin birth like Jesus/Anakin? Tanavast impregnated his mom or something? I mean Brandon is Mormon and the more this Cosmere unfolds it’s resembling a lot of religious philosophical ideals, but I feel like he prefers these Mormon Christian tropes.

[@Danielxt34]

I would prefer him to keep being human rather than being Honor. Since honor must be in the hearts of men, this would be a better way than reforging the shard.

[@Danielxt34]

By the way the theory about the 5th ideal being "I accept i can be protected" and then bridge four sacrifices for him its very plausible at this point.

[@passdoutcouchpotatos]

I cant see any future where Kaladin doesnt end up dead or as a Herald. I see no way he becomes honor, it just doesnt fit.