😍The Future of Public EV Charging is Awesome!

[@miketrombley9107]

I drive between Detroit and Chicago once a month. Back in July I lost my Silverado to a deer just north of O'Hare airport. So I picked up a R1T to replace it. The time to drive the Silverado was 5H45M. The time to drive the R1T is 6H. The distance is 337 miles. I honestly didn't notice the time difference. It costs 27 dollars to charge the R1T vs 50$ to fill the Silverado

[@thedukeofmiddleville]

@@miketrombley9107 Thanks for sharing!

[@JohnSteele-j6j]

WOW. Started watching and one of the first things I hear is my name, I never expected that. Great statistic on the average gas station stops. My last road trip I documented the entire first day just to see how much time I spent charging, etc. 851 miles in 13:03 hours. Five charging stops for a total of 1:42. Average charging stop was 20.4 minutes. 1st stop - bathroom and bought a breakfast taco & a drink. 2nd stop - BR and finished my taco. 3rd stop - BR and 1/2 beer at Buffalo Wild Wing. 4th stop - BR and bought a slice of pizza & a drink. 5th stop - BR and 1/2 beer at Bandera's BBQ. I always buy something everywhere I stop to support the places that allow Tesla charging. I was lucky enough to have transferred Free Supercharging for life from my previous Tesla so it costs me nothing to travel. Since I'm traveling free I don't mind leaving half or 3/4 of a beer and I enjoy the few minutes of relaxation. To me this is the only way to travel.

[@AlSBrown]

I am looking forward to buying my first EV, and I love the information and enthusiasm you provide in your channel! I hope businesses take advantage of the opportunity that you talk about in this video, to establish more charging stations.

[@rayfieldlewis8780]

Like you, I’m looking to purchase EV first of year. Good luck!

[@thedukeofmiddleville]

Thank you very much! And I'm glad you are getting value from this channel. The transition to EVs will be great once people realize the many opportunities. Thanks for commenting!

[@pearldiver7]

Don't forget, at home charging takes essentially no time for EV owners, versus the significant time ICE vehicle owners must expend for regular gas station trips. From my experience this more than offsets any additional time expended on road trips. Good discussion Duke. Hopefully such videos will help educate EV resistant Americans.

[@thedukeofmiddleville]

You are correct. That adds up to around 15 hours a year going back and forth to the gas station, and that is not factoring the additional milage and gas use to fill up at the gas station. Thanks for sharing!

[@gilmorgan4068]

Duke you are the man !! really like your vids.

[@thedukeofmiddleville]

Glad you like them!

[@sinoevc]

Very helpful, great 😄

[@thedukeofmiddleville]

Glad it was helpful!

[@rp9674]

I have two first gen evs, when I finally bought a Chevy bolt last year, I appreciate the huge battery so much and don't panic easily. One of the best parts is if I lose half of my range it's still very functional. 2015 BMW i3 REX still in service 5+ days/week.

[@im4udevco]

It’s unfortunate how BEVs have become politicized and some have all types of excuses including having charging times to be equivalent to filling up a gas tank. The truth is that even when you are alone, you’d be surprised that that there is no statistical difference between ICE vs BEV. With the amount of time people now spend on their phones, it’s probably even longer to fill up even on a gas car.

[@thedukeofmiddleville]

BEVs are politicized because they are a direct threat to deep pocketed industries (such as big oil)t that are major political party donors. Thanks for sharing!

[@junehanzawa5165]

​@@thedukeofmiddleville As well autodealers and their assocoations. They don't want their monopoly/cartel to end.

[@lashlarue59]

As much as people talk about these multi-thousand mile road trips you would think the average person is driving from New York to LA every other week but the driving stats show that is absolutely not the case. The average person is driving around 35 miles a day but why are we so fixated on these 25-30 hour road trips that the vast majority of people NEVER do? Again we're exaggerating the edge case.

[@Snerdles]

I dunno, my 3 year old little car PHEV has 86000 on it and we just got a larger SUV PHEV in August and it has 13k already. Lots of people actually do drive. The fact that grandpa that keeps his old Buick in the garage and drives 5 miles to church on Sundays and I average out doesn't mean I don't drive long distances. Even the people who average 35 miles a day likely do 20-25 a day actually, plus a few 1000 mile trips a year. The want their vehicle to cover all their use conveniently, it's an expensive purchase that they don't want to compromise.

[@dmob10]

I actually go to a specific Target that is further out than the other one closer to my house purely because they have a free chargepoint charger there. So even if I'm going for 10 minutes I will literally go to that store versus going to a Walmart or another store if I am in the area or will pass by. Before I got home charging and I was using the supercharger Network for the first 3 months I would charge up at the one by Walmart get my grocery shopping done and then drive on home.

[@melvinholland9656]

The Rove charging station is ideal, but the answer is making charging stations ubiquitous, not a handful of elegant sites. Adding chargers to every existing gas station will further adoption. However, the elephant in the room in 2025 is whether the tax credit will be reduced or eliminated. If the latter, that will place a terrible burden on legacy automakers and Rivian.

[@thedukeofmiddleville]

Removing the tax credit will have an impact for leasing, but for purchasing their are not a lot of cars that qualify. However, some automakers were planning to build factories in the US so their cars will qualify for the tax credit. If they decide not to build here now that is a lot of potential job losses.

[@junehanzawa5165]

That's why Elon is under their good graces. He's smarter than people think. That's not going to happen with him there. He knows how to handle them.

[@melvinholland9656]

@@junehanzawa5165 Elon has recently stated the EV tax credit should be ended. A bit of research will verify this.

[@melvinholland9656]

@@thedukeofmiddleville Consumer Reports lists 12 manufacturers whose EVs qualify for the full tax credit in 2024. Another 7 qualify for a partial credit. Most manufacturers have multiple models of EVs. It won't matter if you lease or purchase. It won't matter if it's built in the US or not.

[@junehanzawa5165]

@melvinholland9656 Do you really believe that? I can't find it anywhere where he directly says anything. Give at least a little bit of credit. He's playing them.

[@melvinholland9656]

I recommend to my friends interested in an EV to purchase used. With the money saved, invest in solar and a Powerwall. You will gain independence from outages but more importantly you will charge the vehicle for free. No public DCFC will ever be free, but you won't care what the road trip cost is since 90% of charging is done at home.

[@thedukeofmiddleville]

You must own a home to install solar panels, and up to 40% of American cannot charge at home.

[@melvinholland9656]

@@thedukeofmiddleville 86% of EV owners own their homes. So the vast majority of EV owners are in a position to contemplate solar. Apartment dwellers are not likely to embrace EVs until public or work charging improves substantially. That will take years. There are 70,000 public chargers in England...roughly the size of North Carolina. There are 192,000 chargers in all of the US. We are a long way from EV adoption for renters.

[@junehanzawa5165]

Most people on road trips have to stop to fill up (sometimes waiting in line for a pump), go park the car, and then go inside to go to the bathroom, get coffee and snacks, wait in line to pay, and spend the same amount of time than leaving your EV charging that whole time. It takes a very special kind of narrow-minded stupidity not to know that. These are the same time of people that 20 years ago were telling everybody that your new, expensive flat screen panel TV screens would burn up in a couple of years. Remember them?

[@diydrivenGA]

What camera and mount do you use when recording?

[@thedukeofmiddleville]

The cameras are GoPro 11 Black. I don't know the brand of the mounts. I mixed and matched mounting hardware I found on Amazon until I got something that worked.

[@ADOS_DSGB]

I do not want to have to go shopping every time I stop to charge. Is there something else to do besides shop when charging, lol.

[@Snerdles]

Push ups (and other things). Get jacked while getting energized.

[@Snerdles]

You say EVs are on par with gas, but you should watch the Out of Spec I-90 Surge videos. The gas car is literally hours ahead of the 150K BMW EV. The gas car even went out of their way to waste time.

[@thedukeofmiddleville]

I agree that if your goal is to race long distances and go as far as you can without stopping the gas car wins, but normal people don't travel like that and the average person takes a break every two hours, and gas station stops average 20 minutes. Those are fun videos to watch, but that's not how the majority of people road trip.

[@Snerdles]

@thedukeofmiddleville The average stop is no where near 20 minutes though. When I drive my PHEV long distances I usually pop it on a L2 charger at the gas stations I stop at just to get better mileage and it's almost always 7-12 minutes of charging. Even with my family it almost never breaks 15. The only time we stop longer would be for a meal and even then it's around 30. This means that unless you know how to figure out kWh vs kW and know exactly what vehicle to buy you are going to be sitting around waiting on charging currently. There are very few vehicles that can get a proper charge in under 20 minutes and that's only on specific chargers in perfect conditions. When you go on a website like the Skoda UK sales page they have a really great range estimator. When you put in an Enyaq coupe 85 in the fall with one driver keeping the cabin at 20C in eco mode it shows you can pull 367 miles. That means the 10-80 range is 256 miles. That seems pretty reasonable. Now put in the winter, on the motorway, with a family, at 20C in normal mode... Suddenly your range estimate is 187 miles. That puts the 10-80 range at 130 miles. That means when you go to visit family for Christmas you have to stop for 20-30 minutes every hour and a half. That's the reality unless you really go out of your way to research which cars are road tripping beasts and then you basically have to buy a Porsche Taycan or Model 3 RWD LR.

[@patrick7228]

$69 spend at the gas station?! What in the world are people buying? I thought inflation was killing everyone but the average spend is $69 at a gas station?

[@trstrean]

I think we are heading in the direction of little to no cost for home charging of our EVs. Solar paired with batteries completely eliminates pulling from the electric grid. It won't work for renters, but single family homes can achieve no electric bill even when charging vehicles at home.

[@davidkreim6544]

Electric rates actually should go down as we transition to renewable energy sources

[@Snerdles]

You should let Germany and California know.