The Game That Killed Halo

[@Sneedster_14]

It’s a shame that Killzone has been essentially abandoned by Sony, the things I’d do to see another game set in that amazing setting is limitless

[@rodrigolopezmaya5974]

Resistance and killzone ps3 games were top tier imo

[@deedeemerry1295]

yes and it is even more of a shame that Sony has abandoned 95% of their 1st party franchises from all their previous consoles. They just threw them all away...

[@cm-pr2ys]

Dude, imagine a Killzone about the first extrasolar war where it all started.

[@dahuchsi]

What type of things WOULD you do? Hmm? Please list them.

[@caliginousmoira8565]

sony abandons everything.... at least ms/xbox is still behind Halo, Gears, Forza

[@LAHFaust]

I've always felt that one thing that was missing in Killzone 2 & 3 was that the ISA soldiers aren't wearing masks. The natives have to wear masks when outside because the environment is so toxic so it obly makes sense that the invaders do as well. They could have played with that, having the characters breathe a sigh if relief when they enter interiors because they can finally take the mask off. Perhaps even put an overlay on the screen showing you're wearing a mask so even the player feels the eacape from the oppressive atmosphere of Helgha.

[@Oppen1945]

I always thought they wore masks because prolonged exposure to the Helghan atmosphere degraded their lungs and it became a problem for everyone except the 1% (who are seen not wearing masks). Maybe the atmosphere was way more toxic in the first few decades and decreased lung performance was a common birth defect unique to Helghast like their pale skin.

[@TeutonGuy]

The mask was meant to dehumanize the helghast.

[@TeutonGuy]

​@@Oppen1945that was it at first. The 1% that could fully withstand the atmosphere were the result of successful generations of modifications. Later in Helghan culture it was the sign of the working class, colonel Radic was one of the top brass that kept the mask by choice because he started at the bottom.

[@thisaccountnameiscompletel8949]

Helgan had been properly terraformed by the time that the ISA invaded. Before then, the Helghast who had toiled to make their atmosphere breathable had weakened their lungs to the point of requiring masks. And even when they had finished their work, the masks remained as a symbolic thing, and to inspire fear.

[@courier6640]

Like in Metro. Nice.

[@nisnast]

Would love to see a Killzone remastered collection on PS5 and PC, but unfortunately, I have the feeling Guerilla isn't even all that invested on Killzone

[@Clockwork0nions]

Too busy making games about ugly women in post-apocalyptic Earth.

[@fluffymyato3334]

honestly i'd rather much have an fps game set during the Zero Dawn event with that killzone 2 aesthetic and feel.

[@adrianbowen4024]

⁠@@fluffymyato3334That’s actually a genius idea, a FPS where you fight during Operation Enduring Victory against the Faro Plague. Story wise I think it would be somewhere between soul crushing, and Halo Reach since lore wise no one survives the war. And aesthetically it would be similar to Metro, as the world is quite literally dying as you play one.

[@2xRainb0w]

They’re not the same studio anymore like most studios

[@Scarecr0wn]

@@2xRainb0w Yeah exactly. It´s the similar to BioWare or Blizzard. While I enjoyed Horizon games, they moved into "safe space" type of development.

[@BruceLeeroyX]

It's definitely time for a #Killzone Remastered Collection.

[@italiangarbageposting]

Never going to happen, the devs are too busy with the redhead vs robo-dinosaurs game.

[@KnjazNazrath]

People will upscale their repacks soon, I reckon.

[@italiangarbageposting]

@@KnjazNazrath What?

[@deedeemerry1295]

just play it on RPCS3. 4k upscale and 60 fps. But you will need a beefy PC

[@BruceLeeroyX]

@@deedeemerry1295 thanks for that. If I got to go around the world to play it's not worth it.

[@xanderislostagain7515]

I have always found it strange that there was never a remastered collection released of these games. Just like you, I adore the Killzone franchise and I wish I could revisit them again. Superb video.

[@joostvisser6508]

We got the Horizon series instead, which are amazing games by themselves

[@SpookySkeletonsUV]

@@joostvisser6508Beg to differ. Not a fan of movie games all so much. It’s a great time playing but just wish there was more “game” if that makes sense?

[@joostvisser6508]

@@SpookySkeletonsUV You've either never player Horizon Zero Dawn and Forbidden West or you've only ever played it on story mode

[@SpookySkeletonsUV]

@@joostvisser6508 Nah played them games it’s a great game just want more game than cutscenes. or at least make it an incredibly compelling story. I much prefer their kill zone games and wish they would make another or a new series because they do have some talent at that studio

[@TheRealAmericanMan]

There is a remaster of 1 on PS3 which is the only way to play the game honestly as the game runs like thick grits on PS2

[@odside.]

Your videos are always so well made and interesting, I still don't believe you don't have a million subs, you deserve them!

[@abdou.the.heretic]

I'm pretty sure with enough youtubers are slacking or going the low effory way, the creatorq such as this guy here are bound to have a huge surge of viewers dying for original content.

[@odside.]

@@abdou.the.heretic hopefully

[@WolfDarkrose]

When reaction and super fast content are what everyone watches.essay videos and single in depth topics aren't what's shown. Most who watch videos like this dig for there videos and don't watch what the algorithm gives them daily slop

[@odside.]

@@WolfDarkrose tbh videos nowadays are extremely short and plain, at least compared to this.

[@WolfDarkrose]

@odside. I know that and it's a sad fact that's what makes views but like vine and like Justin tv people get bored qnd complacent and yarn and search for better as the same gets old and the internet is forever they say. This video with time will be seen. Just not paybthe bills.

[@VoxelPassport]

This video was an absolute blast! Reminded me I really have to give the main series a proper go for those incredible environments! And as always, the production value with this was just knocked out of the park!

[@Xizax41325]

Killzone 2 was peak Killzone. I really wish more shooters would incorporate the rotating game mode for multi-player.

[@ADSB1994]

I had no idea Killzone devs made Horizon! But it's so clear now... Thank you for covering Killzone. It is such an experience to play through that story, I can't believe I forgot about it!

[@pinga858]

Considering Earth got messed up hundreds of year ago in Killzone lore, I wouldn't be surprised if they are in the same universe. I don't know very much about Horizon, but it would explain why both groups in killzone don't like to use AI.

[@bluelapiz6565]

The only thing that could kill Halo.. was itself Edit: So much cope in the replies. Do I enjoy 343 Halo games? Yes. Am i still a bungie supremacist? Absolutely because theyve made objectively better games.

[@TheBismrk]

They were just following after killzone with that

[@totalhydration5240]

​@@TheBismrk which one killed itself better?

[@TheBismrk]

​@@totalhydration5240 Killzone. I may be biased, but at least they were killed by their maker.

[@tagg218]

Halo isn't dead, it's just MIA

[@Very_Sad_dinosaur]

actaul halo is kinda making a comback right now. Keyword kinda

[@Reinboa]

This is cool and well made! It would be great if we could get a video on the series SOCOM US NAVY SEALS! It doesn’t get enough mention when talking about PlayStation games from back in the day and I think that game was the Halo/Counter strike of the PlayStation IP. Or more correctly, the ghost recon/rainbow six tactical shooter of the time.

[@cokelife5831]

Yea i miss these games

[@Flako92]

Oh man, combined assault was my very first online game I ever had, how I miss that game.

[@dantesparda8524]

this game feels like the same desperation and scrappiness that the first 3 metro games had

[@chip1gray]

its the split screen for me. defending generators with a mate late at night. its quiet where are they then the Ai appears not one at a time in a freeking assault squad, eyes glowing.

[@MadMamluk88]

That’s what I miss about shooters these days: a proper bot mode.

[@HistoryMonarch1999]

The thing that gives me hope to see this series again is the devs themselves said they would like to get back to it, just that they didn’t wanna get fatigued making it so much like CoD. So I’m hoping after they settle on their horizon series that decide to go back and maybe port Killzone.

[@dubbie7879]

its criminal how you dont have a million subs yet

[@Nigel222]

This guys videos are always so unique in presentation.

[@danielkong6767]

Man son, this was a pure joy to see as a killzone fan! Execution was spot on, gave me real chills at some points. I couldnt be more pleased, thank you! Have you thought about covering the resistance franchise as well?

[@timmm_]

thank you for watching! i have only ever played the original Fall of Man fully, but i would really like to dive into Resistance and see it all through at some point

[@cm-pr2ys]

Bro resistance was dope too!

[@Diiify]

the production of these videos are insane, keep it up man!! hands down the goat of youtube

[@krono5el]

If only these games came out on any other systems that were made for gaming they could have been incredible.

[@ryanstover8433]

I still think of the idea of what this series could have been if it was a PC title first, ps title second.

[@DZ-X3]

There would have been so much potential. Liberating the games from the exclusive silo would've solved the performance issues as well. The one time I tried Killzone, it looked pretty... and then within an hour, I dropped it in favour of Heavy Rain. I'd already played FPS games with better framerates and M+KB controls, so I was more interested in an interactive movie than a console shooter.

[@R3TR0J4N]

true sicne the genre, it fits @@ryanstover8433

[@krischurch3763]

​@@DZ-X3good era of games.

[@FrostbiteDigital]

The PlayStation was made for gaming what are you on about?

[@GaryHamad]

Space Industrial Theme Setting is Rare, and KillZone Scratches the itch, but it end itself

[@figmo4227]

I played the hell out of the Killzone series throughout my teen years and always thought it was really good. Now having played them as an adult I realise just how powerful they were, it is confusing to me is why Killzone wasn't more widely adapted into other media - its gritty dark dystopic look at the future is really compelling and has seen a recent resurgence in modern media (I mean just look at 40K). I hope that this series is brought back to life in the near future, there is a lot more to be taken from the KZ series.

[@DPRK_Best_Korea]

It wouldn't be received well by publishing execs and game journos. Killzone, while clearly portraying the Helghast as antagonists, gives clear lore explaining why they became a militaristic, totalitarian, and vengeful people. Given the blatant inspiration they take from The German Socialist Workers Party, it would be a golden opportunity to label the creators as Nazi Sympathizers.

[@_insomniack]

i never cared for killzone, but this made me listen and take passionate interest into this world, and i thank you for that, you are clearly underrated, between the quality of production and writing, every new video is a new transporting experience !

[@jazxsora]

Insane production style, and properly cited sources??? Best Gaming essay channel on YT

[@sebastiansmallbrains1100]

Genuinely a loving dive into a series I wish I knew better. Wasn’t allowed gun games as a kid so it was well after 3 before I even heard of KZ

[@drown_n]

Dog, this is multimillion sub level of quality and entertainment. You’re gonna for SURE explode. Please don’t stop you have greatness in your future AND I wanna be able to say I was here at 40k Brb gonna get a ps3 and killzone 2 now

[@austinkeys9980]

This was a phenomenal tribute to such an amazing game series and studio. I really enjoyed this. Please keep up the awesome work!

[@timmm_]

thank you for watching, glad you enjoyed it!

[@roxstar5088]

I really hope for a reboot of this amazing series. And no, not only because of my national pride but I loved the original Killzone.

[@mcbiel_sk8]

MY FAVORITE CONTENT CREATOR SINCE I DISCOVERED YOU so happy to see a new video on my homepage

[@snaky115]

The perfect video after getting my new TV. Amazing cinematography Timmm!

[@iamnoimpact]

this is the first video of yours i've seen and i loved it, man! awesome production and lots of passion behind it. thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on such a peripheral series. i loved 2-4 and just never got around to playing the first one, but man, this game truly was a buried treasure. i appreciate all that you shared and the time you put into this, brother! stoked for whatever comes next.

[@civviBeats]

Killzone on the PS2 brings back so many memories. Remaster would be crazy

[@shredystevie2806]

this was beautiful. Killzone and the multiplayer of all 3 of the mainline games has an incredible piece fo my heart. thank you for this

[@showi1267]

God I still vividly remember the first game's intro speech.

[@porfiriohernandeziii1041]

I totally loved the Killzone series. When I finally got a PS3 , Killzone 2 was one of the first games I bought.

[@puterchip2326]

the fact you don't have more subs is such a crime, you are up there with the likes of Jacob geller to me

[@acenine8149]

Kind of insane a video with this production quality has so little views. Glad I can get in on the ground level with this one

[@KlaykidReal]

Oh dang! This is my first time on this channel. The presentation is amazing!

[@lazychild3]

Ah yes, a new Timmm video. A good day indeed

[@Dudin4tor]

The INCREDIBLE amount of effort put into this presentation is not lost on me. How many times did you get tired of writing, filming, editing, and improving this, only to push through out of passion for your work? This is amazing. You could have been making a video about anything, and it would still deserve accolades due to its quality. Well done, friend.

[@Kaninjadog]

Love your videos a thoughtful and well presented retrospective. Always had a fondness for Killzone after playing Killzone 2 back in those days. Great trip down memory lane.

[@CringelordJen]

studios like these are so rare these days so im so glad they didnt even question to completely knock another incredible series out for us to enjoy. now we just have to wait and see for them to allow us a remaster (and a PC port for it) to really bring it all home

[@kevinpyro3008]

my god your videos are always so well done, Killed (heh) it again dude! I'd played a bit of killzone in my day but never really thought too hard about the actual story it was telling, now I need to replay it with the context in mind.

[@thekrispiestkreme5609]

This editing was just as unreal as the games you talked about, instant sub

[@ryngymir]

When I was young, I had always been a Halo guy, The gameplay, the narrative, everything about it enthralled me. After watching this, I could feel the passion, the sheer love you have for this game, and I honestly wonder if I'd feel the same had I heard of Killzone sooner, or played PlayStation instead of Xbox. The way you presented this felt as though you were regaling us with a story not only of a game, but your very childhood, and the experiences you had growing up with the franchise. It reminded me of how I feel reminiscing toward Halo. Amazing video!

[@Allen2142]

I know there's a lot of call for a killzone remastered, but i'd like an ISA collection so we can get all the killzone games, PLUS a new one on top! I'd pay serious coin for that

[@IvaN-cf7qt]

Wow that intro was made by the great Logan Roy ?! (Never played this game)

[@tangero3462]

Excellent video as always. Your editing is world-class and I always enjoy the topics you decide to discuss. Killzone has always intrigued me with its potential and its world. It felt so grounded and real, but I think ultimately it was let down by a few key decisions and writing choices. I knew one person who had a PSP when I was a kid, and no one had a Vita, so that part of the whole tale was just dead to me outside of wiki pages and KZbin. Making the first game a character select title created narrative hurdles for the sequels that I think they fell short on overcoming, at least for 2. It always felt to me that the ISA weren't tactically outmatched, they were just hapless rubes too dumb to actually survive. The Helghast are still an incredible enemy, but seeing them dunk on a six-foot hoop doesn't convey their power. I heartily agree, though, that the franchise has brought forth some of the most visually impressive games I've ever seen with incredible gunplay and a cover mechanic more games need to use. In a world now dominated by uninspired CoD releases and their failed attempts at envisioning a science fiction future, I do hope we see a return to Killzone at some point very soon

[@Ser_Percival]

The level of work and the production going into this is so well done. Looking forward to the next video 👍

[@simplyWiTcHeS]

The end of the video about horizon zero dawn and hope genuinely gave me chills that made my body feel cold. mixed with the music and your words genuinely gave me a feeling a youtube video has never made me experience before. this whole video in general made me feel that way.

[@t-money1984]

Thanks for including references in the video. Doing so only adds to the overall quality of your videos, even though I’m sure it’s a bit more effort. I appreciate it.

[@thesis_gaia7960]

I found you again, i remember seeing one of your videos and being mesmerized by your work, then it just vanished and i didn't remember the channel name. But now i found you again and i will not lose this time

[@MikeStu]

This has to be the wildest gap between production quality / amount of subscribers I've ever seen. Nice job man.

[@Mikuru-inkings]

What the heck, where are your subs. There needs to be more. This quality and length is just unmatched. Well, ill just click the share button a couple hundred times.

[@basic2528]

Being 20 y/o now, regret not getting into the Killzone Franchise how I should have. I didn't know and didn't understand the story; both the games' and the developers behind it. It didn't really click for me at the time. Being a kid and a picky gamer, I was looking towards the other default picks like CoD and Battlefield. Watching this video, it made me realize how a developer that stuck with it's vision and dreams can grow, reflected by the games they develop and in turn, nurture. From the Depths of the Hells to the Soaring Elysium Sky, Guerilla Games has etched a good chunk of themselves into Video Gaming History. And I regret not being a part of it since the beginning. Maybe someday they'll decide to sort of Remaster the franchise, update it for the current generation. But for now, it's a piece of Video Gaming Legacy that, even though I'll sadly can't revisit, it's a game that makes you forget others existed.

[@Hans140]

Needs more views and likes. Amazing video unlike anything I’ve ever seen. Earned a subscriber. Well done

[@dvg-vt8pv]

truly underrated documentary video game channel. Your edit style is soo unique and I loved it! If you keep doing this, you will be more popular on the gaming review genre. Keep up with the good work

[@redtape9484]

Merry Christmas Timmm!

[@Gunthersby]

I never really got into Killzone. This video let me learn a lot

[@GucciManecubus]

The opening speech is still the best speech I have ever heard in a video game. THAT is how you get people to fight for you and even commit atrocities for you. Peak Charisma.

[@tristanpeterson8908]

The production quality alone, this is getting a sub. Great narration, solid script, a fantastic presentation. It is clear you love the media.

[@bigsherpa]

Another great video from the T man. I personally always thought the Killzone series never quite reached what I wanted it to. That wasn't for a lack of me trying - I remember really wanting to get into it and even convincing myself for a brief time that it would be the next big thing following Halo. Nowadays it feels even more forgotten than other, worse games!

[@KingJobber]

You have some of the absolute best retrospective content out there my man. Your Ace Combat video was cinema. Keep it up!

[@pigloodu14_]

Once again a great video ! Your content is truly Amazing, it makes a lot of sense and it keeps reminding me why I love video games so much !

[@maxmad4611]

they went to the light but I haven’t give up on the dark

[@davinhunt7558]

I can still recall the ambient linkin park in my room and killzone 2 multiplayer tdm. nice vid effects

[@cira8080]

absolute banger video, like always

[@MadMamluk88]

I remember reading somewhere that Killzone originally started out as a PC game before Sony caught wind of it and decided to back it

[@Colemanbentz888]

I think that the New Wolfenstein games wouldn't have been so good without Killzone's success. I noticed multiplayer of the series was kind of brushed on in the video but I remember KZ3s MP being so much fun, with the mechs, the AVs, big(ish) Halo style battles. I legitimately forgot that Battlefield 3 had launched around this time because of KZ3 and MAG (god I miss MAG so much)

[@chrispollard824]

The amount of time me n my buddy would load in a map where it was the 2 of us vs 100s of enemies was crazy. Great memories

[@OperatorJay141]

Killzone is and will always be my Favorite game series. I will always remember the great times I had with the series. It will always stay in my heart.

[@KingDudeness]

Timmm thank you for all that you do on this platform, your content is some of my favorite in recent years

[@Mark_Snow]

Great production quality

[@Murph_gaming]

11 years later it may be time for Guerilla to revisit Killzone. The ending of Shadowfall certainly sets up for a sequel. SONY has a few titles that featured multiplayer just currently sitting on their shelf, Killzone and SOCOM.

[@deedeemerry1295]

nope, the new Sony just wants to make games that sell 20+ million copies. KZ is not one of them. That is why Sony abandoned most of their older IPs and threw them all away.

[@waltonkromer2702]

Also Mag,......does anyone remember Mag?

[@Murph_gaming]

Yeah but I didn't play it.@@waltonkromer2702

[@rexthewolf3149]

⁠@@deedeemerry1295Sony didn’t them throw away, the studio who created them decided to do something else. Sony has also seen first hand with Sly Cooper 4/ and watching MS struggle with post bungie halo, that getting another studio to work on a series when the original developers aren’t interested isn’t a recipe for success.

[@SquidyPapa]

Mom get the camera, Timmmm posted a new video 😭❤️

[@Fp007]

so many “halo-killers” yet none stand to this day yada yada yada

[@aqualucasYT]

Better than anything else on youtube right now

[@jik294]

I remember the first time I played the Original Killzone, It was such an amazing change to everything else. Killzone1, 2, & 3 all hold an extremely special place in my heart and I don't think we'll see a game or series like it again.

[@jesterdk]

Great video as always! I love the way you structure your videos. And Killzone was always a super unique series that NAILED atmosphere over a flow of gameplay, and got dismissed too quickly for that. Nice to see some representation for 'em! Fun times

[@KaosandRiot]

Would love to see a next gen version of it. Very under appreciated game, first one was pretty good for its time

[@MegaCityOne]

I would like to see a Killzone 3rd person RPG. Exploring the UCN Colonies, as an agent

[@varsityreviews707]

Holy crap. I just found your channel and the amount of work you put into these is honestly some of the best I've ever seen on KZbin!!

[@Parashoey]

You are so underrated and I believe that if you keep making intriguing and thoughtful videos, that you will find a massive audience.

[@luispereira3704]

I just want to say that this video made me a fan of the series and i finished Killzone 2 and 3 just moments ago . Thank you for sharing your enthusiastic and passionate essay with the rest of us

[@jackraider9113]

You did Ace Combat first and now Killzone?! Literally my fav series beside Metal Gear and FInal Fantasy

[@prototypelq8574]

Thank you for covering Killzone! I'm a big Horizon ZD fan, and just wanted to add here that the experience Guerilla had while making the Killzone was clearly felt in that game. The broken ruins of the war machines, the voice logs of the battles and dying soldiers, all those things painted an extremely gruesome picture...It created a stark and horrific contrast to the lush and beautiful world of Horizon, and the series would have never been the same without that dark history, which we only got thanks to the dev experience with Killzone. it's also extremely commendable that a hardcore linear shooter series team was able to branch out so masterfully into the directly opposite genre and setting... Again, thank you for covering Killzone. My dear Horizon wouldn't have ever been the same without it, and games exploring war are a big moral help to work through the current world events.

[@gersonjr2560]

They kinda let down in writing and story of FW though.Still my favorite studio nonetheless

[@KennyFrierson]

If you added 4k to Shadow Fall it would look like a next gen game today.

[@THEDOOD32]

What this video makes me wonder is if the story of Horizon is connected with the Killzone universe directly.

[@poisonpawn6452]

Well made, thoughtful video about a favorite subject. I subscribed for it

[@maxcooper6554]

I hope at some point we can get GG to give us a Killzone PC collection!

[@lowluv72]

This is a very creatively done video

[@camaradabarbosa]

you’re by far my favorite channel of 2023. such incredible production and editing. i really hope you get more recognition 🫶🏻

[@Demonetised_]

you are now one of my favorite creators. Your videos are just so well put together and I love them. Very underrated channel that needs more subs

[@berkonvo]

I don't tend to comment on here, but I have to go out of my way to praise the effort you've put in, both in research and presentation. Pleaes keep citing your sources and keep up the good work!

[@angelofhelghanghostwolf223]

Loved the video we need more Killzone videos.

[@brannanvitek1035]

You're so goddamn awesome, Timmm. Loving this video, and a huge fan! Also, if you don't already know, they make "gas blowback" airsoft guns! The magazines get filled with 'green gas', and and you can dry fire them. They've got realistic kick and bolt travel. Might be something to look into for new props!

[@abdulhadibarodi6819]

Man I love your videos

[@R1tsu_Tyan]

Still remember first time I've launched KZ2, that was impressive af

[@haydencarn8737]

Holy crap, how is this so well-made? This video was superb.

[@jonthompson4747]

Seriously!!! Where did Killzone go?!?! 😭😭😭

[@Sentay0]

Killzone aesthetically is amazing (the grit, the guns) HOWEVER the small enemy variety, the linear levels, lack of movement options, lack of squad intelligence / usefulness / lack of enemy coordination / lack of pathos / lack of color / lack of intensity / and lack of performance (running at a chunky ~20 frames a second); always meant that it was doomed to fail when competing against the heavy hitters of the genre (who tend to either prioritize modularity like Halo, creativity / variety like Half-life, or a focus on maps like most boomer shooters). And at first I thought it was bizarre the amount of praise I heard for the series but then I learned something most foul, the PS3 remake has even worse performance then the original releases. Then I played Horizon 1 and realized no it's not just the performance something about the engine or design just makes the game clunky, you don't have a lot of momentum, you can't move in ways that aren't explicitly scripted, it honestly reminds me a lot of Medal of Honor but even that franchise had the good sense to just become CoD at a certain point.