The Game That Started the Brady/Manning Rivalry! (Patriots vs. Colts 2003, Week 13)

[@InYourHouse316]

From my vantage point, this rivalry sort of “rose to the top” at a time where there was a vacuum in the NFL. No more 49ers, Cowboys, Packers, Broncos running roughshod. Some parity at the turn of the century… Baltimore, Tennessee, Indy, New England, Jacksonville, St. Louis, Philly, Tampa were all finding success. These two teams (after this game) had a Vice grip on the league for a while. Also, interesting to see this in high def.

[@jab1289]

Yeah, good point. Going into the season, I didn't expect a whole lot out of these teams. I thought that the Colts weren't a SB contender, and I thought the Pats were a one-hit wonder.

[@jrad410]

@@jab1289 also helped that so many of the top qbs from the 90s were gone. Just in 99-2000 Aikman,Elway,Marino,Young all retired

[@DV1287]

Mcginest making that 4th and goal stop is one of the most underrated endings to a goal line stand ever

[@InYourHouse316]

That is the lasting image from this game in my mind. The way he ran up the field with his hand leading the charge

[@sludge4125]

It’s not underrated.

[@KillyJoe]

If I recall just a play or two before this he was laying in the middle of the field injured they had to stop play but he mad a miracle recovery minutes later then celebrated by sprinting down the field

[@sports3117]

This was one of the great rivalries in the National Football League at that time

[@tyreepowell8367]

I love this rivalry

[@ethanlane3055]

Facts

[@monkeyflingpoo247]

Bro the best rivalry of the time!

[@Knightmessenger]

Seeing an early 2000s game in HD is like seeing an n64 or gamecube game you remember being in 4x3, but with a 16x9 patch added.

[@jedibattlemasterkos]

EXACTLY

[@Briggie]

Super Bowl 35 was in HD

[@Blackphillipsupporter]

That ‘03 team was special. Every time they needed to make a play they did.

[@milesbrown7345]

I would say most of our super bowl teams made crucial plays when they absolutely have too. That's where the intelligence of bill's coaching stands out. We make plays other teams just don't make, or at least they don't make them that often. Eyes on the ball always. And they do it with no name guys.

[@Mrd9960]

And to think if they really pushed themselves, they possibly could have went 19-0 that year, only that opening game blow out loss at Buffalo and a 3 point loss at Washington, which they really didn't play like they should have in that game.

[@JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly]

It’s crazy how the Patriots were able to win so many games and a Super Bowl in 2003 despite having no run game.

[@bostonredsox49]

Yeah Corey Dillon was the only one that was kinda elite. Faulk, Redmond, and Antowain Smith were all good but Dillon really pounded the rock

[@SmugTomato]

Brady had a quietly great season and the Defense/ST balled the hell out as showcased in this game. Still ended up being the impetus for them to bring in Corey Dillon who had a career year in 2004.

[@RK-gz3mr]

The dink and dunk offense... and rare for Belichick, he drafted 3 good receivers (Branch, Givens, Johnson)

[@MichaelMurphy-kj3xf]

@@RK-gz3mr Johnson a good receiver? Is that a joke? 🤣

[@BillyBob-ti2fz]

@@RK-gz3mr bro Johnson and givens weren’t good WRs and brandy was average at best lmao

[@adriankendrick4281]

What a incredible game. Great play by Willie McGinest to seal the victory.

[@eugenesatele9434]

That time when Willie McGinest made that vital stop for the Pats that decided the place for the AFC Championship later.

[@munstrumridcully]

I remember that McGinest play so clearly! I didn't remember any of the rest of this game, but I remember Willie McGinest running right to Edgerrin James and keeping him out of the end zone to save the game! 🙂 It's kinda/sorta like the Malcom Butler interception. Both plays saved wins for the Pats that looked for all the world that they would lose. But they were also significant beyond just the game they helped to seal. But, of course, since Butlers play sealed a Super Bowl, so that play gets way more coverage and is remembered way more.

[@borisbalkan707]

After faking an injury in the last few seconds

[@NEPats1289]

That play essentially determines their fate over the next couple yeara

[@munstrumridcully]

@@borisbalkan707 wah, wah, wah! Cry me a river-- your tears of infinite jealousy are soooooo tasty!

[@greyk610]

Whoever 92 was had him by the legs, I'm pretty sure he doesn't get in regardless of whether Willie is in the play or not.

[@dionr1168]

That time Willie McGinest forced the NFL to charge teams a timeout for injuries inside the 2 minute warning.

[@paulrichards5002]

That must of been another rule the Colts bitched and moaned about to get changed😂

[@stealthiscool]

@@paulrichards5002 Don't forget their crying after the 2003 Championship game because the Patriots DBs were too physical for their liking, you can thank the Colts for defenses being completely outmatched

[@paulrichards5002]

@@stealthiscool👍 and a year later when we'd Troy Brown playing corner back😂😂..Peyton must of been delighted he wasn't playing Ty Law

[@greyk610]

@@paulrichards5002 I'm pretty sure Manning complained to the league about switching divisions in 2002 so he was able to win a division and actually have a chance at the playoffs every year.

[@Robxlovesmusic]

@@QuiltHoncho mugging receivers down the field is too, apparently.

[@sbcj9]

How crazy is it. That Brady is most likely the only player in this game still playing. And what there are 3 HOF players in this game that have retired and have been inducted. That's crazy to think how long Brady has been going and still playing at a high level 🤯

[@AJtheDestroyer]

Marvin Harrison, ty law, Peyton Manning, edgerrin James 4 that I can think of

[@sbcj9]

@@AJtheDestroyer forgot about Tyler Law thank you. Yeah its nuts. He'll the Colts alone had 4 HOF if you add Tony too. All had careers and retired and went into the HOF.

[@nightmaregaming5016]

@@sbcj9 5 if you add reggie wayne he will get in eventually and freeney possibly too

[@sbcj9]

@@nightmaregaming5016 oh I think they will. Wayne had good numbers and Freeney was a monster on that line. The Colts had a lot of talent. It's crazy they didn't get tit done more.

[@jrad410]

@@sbcj9 another I think should get in is Richard Seymour. Guy was beast and maybe the most important player for Pats defense at that time.

[@simtek3475]

Loving all these HD Early 2000s games! Seeing these old games in HQ is part of why I love this channel! (now, about those late 90s hd games…)

[@jrad410]

Thank you! I’ve been waiting for this game lol. This one gets underrated, played a major part in seeding that year and also showed that Brady was more than just a game manager as we would see in the Super Bowl that season.

[@mshat18]

What a great game. At the time the talk was all about Manning and rightfully so with his great stats but Tom Brady proved he could sling it just as well. This is the game that really jumpstarted the pats that year. Also Big Willie with the huge stop at the end was an iconic moment.

[@Bob-zh7lr]

Brady didn’t win this game. That defense did. Manning never had a great defense. A few good defense ends and that’s about it.

[@galagize9233]

@@Bob-zh7lrah so brady didnt throw any touchdowns 🤡

[@flamboyant480]

I remember this being (for me), one if the 1st great Regular season games I've ever watched!

[@tyronpouncey5985]

Was waiting for this. Thanks nfl throwback.. pats colts rivalry is back… can you upload a playoff game

[@ericradford2142]

I loved the Brady and Manning rivalry so much.

[@tyreepowell8367]

Now this is my all time favorite rivalry of all time between brady & manning.

[@greyk610]

Dang this is good quality footage for 03.

[@StormFive]

This was one of the best games ever played in all of sports. Four legitimate legendary sports figures in this game and 7 hall of fame players. I am thankful to have been able to see this.

[@Briggie]

They met again in the AFC championship that year as well (this game also being the reason it was at the Pats) in another great game.

[@solemn-man3170]

Pats got the best of the colts most of the time, but when the colts won it was always in such a spectacular fashion.

[@ZuluGamingSeries]

Pats really only beat the colts in New England Turns out New England was bugging the lockers rooms, Pats didn’t beat Peyton’s colts after they got caught spying

[@ZuluGamingSeries]

Pats really only beat the colts in New England Turns out New England was bugging the lockers rooms, Pats didn’t beat Peyton’s colts after they got caught spying,m. Peyton, Philip rivers and the Steelers all got robbed of multiple sb chances

[@TheBeggies95]

@@ZuluGamingSeriesThis is why everyone hates the Colts. They cry spygate, deflategate, they booed their QB (Luck) when he retired… Classless fans that can’t accept reality. Take the L, the Patriots were better than the Colts and Tom Brady is better than Peyton Manning

[@cbod14]

I’m old enough to remember when these teams were in the same division.

[@jessehelwig3977]

I love watching these older games. I was like 10 when this game happened. Its like traveling back in time

[@HistoricalWonder720]

You notice how after every play guys aren't celebrating routine tackles and 8 yard completions like they just won the game like they do today?

[@sludge4125]

No, I didn’t notice. I did notice that you seem to be a grumpy old man.

[@HistoricalWonder720]

@@sludge4125 One does not have to be a grumpy old man to notice trends and the emergence of egotism in today's NFL or to see the humor in a DB waving incomplete when the pass sailed 20 yards over the players heads. I'm in my early 30s btw. Its noticing a changing trend, it doesn't make me angry at all. This literally comes after a Steelers WR celebrated a routine pass and wasted over 20 crucial seconds for his team at the end of a game, letting the vikings win.

[@sludge4125]

@@HistoricalWonder720 Okay, cool.

[@HistoricalWonder720]

@Joseph However the winning teams of today just don't operate like this anymore. Even Tom Brady led teams now have guys ridiculously over celebrating a routine tackle in the 1st quarter or a 6 yard completion with 12 minutes left in the 2nd. It's become a much more me me me sport as opposed to the "we are bothers in arms and a team" mentality teams had back then. That was the point I was making.

[@HistoricalWonder720]

@Joseph I'm not here to be argumentative about anything. I just feel like players celebrate more intensely and more often for small things they do on the field than they used to.

[@bobbywinston116]

freeney was soo good. I think he's underrated

[@cbod14]

This game was the difference between one team getting two home games in the postseason and the other having to play wild card weekend

[@joeruiz4010]

If NE lost this game, they'd have been the 2 Seed. KC would've been hosting WC Weekend.

[@cbod14]

@@joeruiz4010 KC Finished 13-3. If NE loses the worst they could've been was 13-3. Indianapolis Finished 12-4. If they win this game they likely don't lose again. KC & NE would've both had two conference losses so who knows what the Tie Breaker would've been.

[@kevonsidek9737]

@@cbod14division record

[@briandesousa3264]

I remember this like it was yesterday watching on a crappy tube standard definition TV! That play by Willie McGinest deserves to only be heard by the Gil Santos radio call. Gives you chills.

[@MainCargo]

Man I cannot believe I missed out on this wish I watch NFL eariler.

[@tyronpouncey5985]

Yeah dude you really did… this was a fun era of offense vs defense

[@NoJobRob]

It was a beautiful game when you were still actually allowed to be physical

[@1990Thunderbolt]

@@tyronpouncey5985 it was also the fun era of the patriots in the 2000s. too bad i got into football kinda late. i started to become a fan in the early 2010s. the pats were my first football team cause brady made me become a fan!

[@charlesdunn442]

Been waiting for NFL Throwback to post this game! A classic!

[@bradtitsenpolo3931]

They would meet in a lot more games with higher steaks but for me this was the best pure game between Brady and Manning

[@jmshein0]

I never thought I would see a drive end at the 1 yard line and say they should’ve thrown it 😭

[@GRNKRBY]

You have Edgerin James at the 1, and you drop back pass?!

[@Bob-zh7lr]

Imagine giving Peyton that Patriot defense that Tom had for so many years.

[@NicholasLashway]

Will never forget celebrating with my step dad when the Pats stopped the Colts on the goal line

[@dustinstivers6611]

Still amazes me how McGinest was so hurt that the Colts couldn't run their no huddle when he went down yet a minute later he was sprinting down the field celebrating.....

[@PedroMartinez-tt7lr]

Cope

[@brendonkeen1974]

Perhaps Jones and Wentz can resurrect this rivalry…

[@josephayers7395]

6 months later. HUGE L

[@Nillon24]

@@josephayers7395 ROFL!

[@randallbates9020]

Drake Maye is the next great NFL Quarterback, that kid can cook.

[@sloikalamos]

Is this video has been upscaled? The quality is amazing!

[@tedskins]

NFL made a huge mistake by putting the Dolphins in the AFC East and the Colts in the AFC South after the realignment in 2002. We could've had Brady-Manning in the same division. Imagine how much NFL history would've changed

[@MichaelMurphy-kj3xf]

They did it to enhance Manning's career. He was only 31-33 v. the AFC East lifetime.

[@Briggie]

Indy was the odd man out in AFC East. All the other teams had been together since the AFL days.

[@Yeomannn]

@@MichaelMurphy-kj3xf Any proof of that? Sounds like something you made up.

[@MichaelMurphy-kj3xf]

Manning v. AFC East = 31-33 with horrid numbers. v. Miami = 6-8 (22 TD passes, 18 INTs) v. N.E. = 9-15 (49 TD passes, 33 Turnovers) v. Buffalo = 8-4 (13 TDs, 12 INTs, v. NYJ = 9-6 (16 TD passes, 11 INTs) His numbers were greatly inflated by playing indoors and in warm weather v. mediocre defenses.

[@Yeomannn]

@@MichaelMurphy-kj3xf Your claim that "They did it to enhance Manning's career" has absolutely no proof and is akin to a conspiracy theory.

[@tyreepowell8367]

I Like This All Time Rivalry NFL Throwback!

[@Diet_Bleach]

Can we stop with the Gronk commercials and his fixation for joining that insurance company only for the military community?

[@djf5742]

I love the high definition

[@NM-qo6cd]

That fucking Deion Branch celebration 🤣🤣

[@brysonhardy9082]

I Remember the RCA Dome. That is my Favorite Astroturf.

[@robogreek3157]

RCA...and IRVING both had the most beautiful turf. I hate how they look today

[@randallbates9020]

Fake grass sucks and is proven to shorten players careers. That stuff should be outlawed

[@HeartsforJesus25]

Bout time NFL Throwback. Bout time.

[@deearetas]

About time I been waiting on this nfl throwback 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@WailingGita]

Geez I forgot how bad some of Peyton's Colts teams were with Special Teams, spotted NE 14 points 🤦‍♂️

[@dennislanga9568]

Can we all agree... no shade on Payton but he couldn't handle BIG moments.. last fumble in the dying moments and he kept throwing the ball away.. No Ways.. he might have as well thrown it to me sitting in Johannesburg

[@royhunt1690]

Excellent Goal line stance by the Patriots.

[@ericholley2274]

Patriots bullied Manning in the early years. He finally overcame. Reminds me of the current Chiefs against my Beloved Ravens and Lamar. He, too, shall overcome the bullying 😅

[@endlessmountain]

I disagree with your title as I think Brady's 2nd career start in 2001 started the rivalry. I remember watching and holding a Indy minus double digits ticket in my pocket that afternoon. Then the rematch a few weeks later. Only difference is I didn't hold the Indy ticket there. Brady got him both times his rookie year and Peyton was dominating the league by 2001.

[@saurondp]

No one considered it much of a rivalry in 2001 as the Pats and Colts were heading in opposite directions. The rivalry didn't kickstart until Tony Dungy took over the HC job and got the Colts back to a winning record.

[@jrad410]

Brady and Manning weren’t at elite levels quite yet in 2001 and neither team was one of the top contenders in the afc at the time.

[@randallbates9020]

Except New England went on to win the Superbowl and I lived in New England at the time and it was a big deal, all anyone ever heard was Manning this and Manning that and the sky is his limit, GAG. I'm gonna tell you that motivated Brady even more. Brady lived for proving people wrong. Love that guy. Lol

[@HiDefTV91]

I'll never understand how Peyton, the master pre-snap guru, didn't spot McGinest & check that final run to the left 🤦🏻‍♂️😤🤬😒🐴💙

[@milesbrown7345]

That's what belichick does he confuses the best of them and he takes away their biggest threat and he forces you to figure him out and then beat him with your left hand. That's why it works so much. Everyone is one dimensional and can't figure out a compromise when their muscle gets taken away. So simple yet it's the formula for the best ever.

[@johndoe-fq7ez]

Turf on tv like this always looks like it has zero give or texture, looks like they're playing on a ping pong table.

[@greatnessappreciator5322]

The pats were the best heels

[@mekagoji7442]

What’s this? A 2003 game in HD???

[@nickwright4079]

It looks really good

[@InYourHouse316]

Amazing isn’t it? There is a video of the 2003 AFC wild card game Titans@Ravens in HD. Some clips of Super Bowl 35 in HD. And NFL throwback posted a video of packers/Seahawks from November 1999 on MNF in HD. It’s amazing to see them in HD today!

[@NitroModelsAndComics]

That running into the kicker... You mean being on the ground when he fell on you?

[@randallbates9020]

Yes that was super cheap call. The punter actually ran into him. NFL officiating is pathetic, has been for years

[@jonathancaulk8748]

Had Manning sneaked it twice from the one when the Colts were down 34-38 at the end, they probably would have scored and won. Having homefield in the playoffs may not have meant beating the Patriots again, but it would have helped.

[@peterharris6409]

Funny thing about that roughing the kicker penalty is that nobody touched the punter sooooooo………? What? Weakest call ever

[@devinrahney5417]

What's interesting is that if the Colts won this game, the AFC championship would've been there instead of Foxborough, that may have changed the trajectory this great rivalry in a way

[@kevonsidek9737]

It wouldn’t have the colts finished 12-4 the pats would’ve finished 13-3

[@devinrahney5417]

@@kevonsidek9737 Yes it would’ve, they both would’ve been 13-3 that year if Indy won that game thus giving Indy the tie breaker for the 1 seed

[@NEPats1289]

Can you upload 2002 pats bears and 2010 pats bears

[@erickatanga6635]

This, the 02 game was a great comeback

[@NEPats1289]

@@erickatanga6635 that’s exactly why I want it posted. Such a great game. They have the entire game on KZbin but it’s so much better watching them condensed

[@mjf2891]

They only upload previous meetings between teams when they’re about to play each other, so they may upload that next season

[@NEPats1289]

@@mjf2891 hopefully they think of those two games rather than the most recent ones. 2002 match up was the most underrated win of Brady’s career

[@nicholasbarber3644]

can you do a video on the evolution of running backs

[@MasonPatrick2.0]

Here before JahNuhThun Dee The One And Only

[@kevmendo]

Funny story, I didn't get to see the end of this live. I lived in Kansas City and they bailed on the last two minutes with Indy driving for a Chiefs game.

[@thomassankara1391]

Even though I know The Colts Lost I have to watch this cause it's another Peyton Manning Game.

[@arnoldgarzajr1164]

Didn't the New England Patriots go 14-2 and the Indianapolis Collts go 12-4 in the NFL 2003 season?I don't know how people thought that the Colts were going to smoke the Patriots in the AFC championship game. 🤦‍♂️. Patriots were the best team in the 2003 season.Manning and the Colts finally beat Brady and the Patriots in the 2006 season.Imagine that and imagine the wait. 2003 Colts lost to Patriots AFC championship 2004 Colts lost to Patriots AFC divisional playoff 2005 Colts lost to Steelers AFC divisional playoff 2006 Colts finally beat the Patriots AFC championship 🤦‍♂️ I hate Tom Brady 😂

[@giorgiogazzola5972]

Before the next Bills Pats game please a do video where the Bills beat the Pats 31-0. It's only fair since you already did a video when the Pats beat the Bills 56-10.

[@aidanmiranda6140]

Wasn’t Brady’s first start vs Peyton?

[@jun10rm1nt]

yes

[@tyronpouncey5985]

Yes 01 week 3

[@CriscoDaDragon8716]

Their first meeting was 2001 Brady first game starting

[@NFLVault]

True but that game was a blowout this was the first classic game they played

[@eugenesatele9434]

@@NFLVault True, Brady didn't even score his first touchdown pass either too the first time he faced off against Peyton back in 2001.

[@beaver311]

The patriots had a good defense during this era, it was exciting watching manning trying to beat their defense while going head to head with Brady.

[@sashrill]

is it me, or do refs not stand midfield behind safeties anymore. like they are in the way in this game.

[@Knightmessenger]

The umpire is now in the offensive backfield, opposite the ref. Other levels still have the ump near the defensive linebackers.

[@eschelhasii]

They’ve got the refs blocking for the Colts at 4:20 lol

[@TheRealGaryColeman]

This Started The Tom and Manning Era

[@loganford1220]

9:00 how the hell is #99 on the kickoff team

[@ryanmulcahey9810]

I forgot the Patriots had such a huge lead in this game at one point

[@peterharris6409]

I’m watching this game for the second time years later and 11:04…… that’s a touchdown…… what happened????????????????

[@Fireyninjadog]

The day the pats defense came up clutch

[@jminer6529]

Really good quality for 2003 go colts

[@lukeg3891]

That kick return TD low key one of the most absurd plays you’ll ever see.

[@t-gotitanup9386]

Did you know the Colts were responsible for 2 league rules to change thanks to their games against the Patriots in this game and 2004 AFC Division Game After this game both Peyton Manning and Tony Dungy went to the league and felt the Patriots fake their injuries to slow down their momentum and use the strategy that if Indy scored they would have time on the clock this led to that if a team had an injured player under two minutes they had to burn a time out and if an opponent had no timeouts and use players to fake injury it would be a 10 sec run off with a 15 yard unsportsmanlike. In the 2004 Division Round The Colts lost to the Patriots 20-3. Dungy and the Colts organization came to the league and stated that the Patriots would jam the Colts Receivers for 10 yards and they felt 10 yards of jamming a WR gave WR no chance to get open this led to the current rule that is known as the Dungy Rule "a Corner Back or Safety or any defender covering a WR only has 5 yards to press a receiver after 5 yards defenders must not press or hold any WR this could lead to either a 10 yard holding penaly or a spot foul pass interference"

[@ryanantonellis1335]

Tony Dungy loves to kick it deep. Man, Devin Hester + this game. Geez

[@claylyons6447]

Colts fan here, but I think those Patriot teams in that era were better, due mainly to their defense.

[@joshuaguste6883]

This in a way solidifies my belief as to why the Colts were placed in a separate division. The Patriots pretty much owned Manning and would never win the AFC East with Brady and Belichick on him and the NFL realized that.

[@Kingdizzleltdinc615]

2:38 Coach Vrabel..my coach..#TitanTFUp⚔️⚔️ and Bethel Johnson was a cheat code on Madden dude was fast as hell

[@aidenduckworth307]

At 4:29 in the video freeney misses a wide open hole for a sack

[@1sepriani]

bill didn’t even celebrate until No time left lol smh 🐐

[@Bob-zh7lr]

Back when the NFL was still good. Quit watching about 7 years ago.

[@johnhebert3855]

I remember McGinest's tackle as if it was yesterday. These were the Patriots' prime years. Bethel Johnson had a lot of potential but ended up as a bust for some reason.

[@peterharris6409]

Also great tackle by Number 92 on the Colts to get Faulk on the ground. Oh wait why is his Jersey colors different……..lmao. Tackled by the ref

[@JohnnyLodge2]

I almost forgot about Dan Klecko

[@mikeaddison5697]

Back when teams actually played hard

[@harpertrochelman455]

Actually is was Week 3, 2001

[@jrad410]

No that was their first game, but not when the rivalry got going

[@thenewjord50]

If the colts stayed in the afc east this rivalry will make the division a much better

[@MichaelMurphy-kj3xf]

They did it to enhance Manning's career. He was only 31-33 v. the AFC East lifetime.

[@Yeomannn]

@@MichaelMurphy-kj3xf That's fiction.

[@MichaelMurphy-kj3xf]

Sorry Andy. The numbers don't lie. 31-33 v. the AFC East. 4-37 when the temperature was below 40°F. Domes, warm weather and weak defenses inflated his stats.

[@Yeomannn]

@@MichaelMurphy-kj3xf Mikey, you're forgetting Peyton threw 55 TDs in Denver. You believe in lies and myths. Don't forget to get your 10th booster!

[@MichaelMurphy-kj3xf]

Andy - sounds like you've never been to Denver. The numbers don't lie.🤣

[@kingomari901]

Hi NFL Throwback

[@5milamila]

Great game but the RIVALRY wasn't officially "ON" until Vinatieri ditched Bawwww-ston and went to Naptown...

[@AJ_savage16]

Classic game Wille McGenist with the goal line stand to win it for the pats

[@dennis2782]

Those Games Peyton vs Tom were Better than any SuperBowl.... Really They were the Best Games I have ever watched...............Don't know if that will happen again...... I hope So.......

[@taimoorearshi7415]

The Colts O-line was horrendous

[@MichaelMurphy-kj3xf]

Manning was the least sacked QB in the NFL that season

[@captainchaserman7148]

No it wasn’t are you okay?

[@Yeomannn]

@@MichaelMurphy-kj3xf That's because of Manning's quick release and great decisions. We understand that sacks are just as much about the QB as they are about the OL. Manning's line wasn't great, but Manning is the greatest QB of all time along with Dan Marino at avoiding sacks.

[@PedroMartinez-tt7lr]

Is that a joke? Jeff Saturday? Tarik Glenn? Ryan Diem? Marcus Pollard?

[@erichdewald5600]

Or was the Pats defense just that much better?

[@josephvanhorn5347]

New England almost definitely stopped Indy from winning a championship in 2003 or 2004 or 2007 or all of those years.

[@Briggie]

2007 I think was the Chargers. That mid-late 2000’s Chargers team was another thorn in their side.

[@josephvanhorn5347]

@@Briggie The Chargers and Patriots both owned Peyton for years.

[@markwelch7975]

Who the F is Mike Cloud?

[@NitroModelsAndComics]

I asked that same question and I watched that game when it aired. Another of the Brady Bunch of guys who caught TD's from the GOAT.

[@musicnthangs9782]

Colts used only 2 personnel groups the entire game and were still explosive on offense. They needed to use heavy personnel on the goaline and pound the football into the end zone. Too much finesse.

[@Yeomannn]

That was a common criticism of the Colts in that era on both offense and defense. Finesse team, goes up against physical NE, gets crushed.

[@jokotri2186]

Brady did a lot of under center in his early years

[@juangringo3906]

FG w/3mins left near the goaline down by a TD? Makes no sense to me. Js

[@clintbishir]

I was at this game.

[@hoopsfan3437]

damn pats did everything to lose this game, fortunate for the defense to come up with that goal line stand