1760 -61 seems to have been a particularly bad year for heritage buildings in London
@michaeldobson24335 жыл бұрын
rob28803 I thought this too. Any particular reason why all the gates got pulled down during this time period?
@chasbodaniels17445 жыл бұрын
Yes, Im wondering why several gates were lost between 1760 - 71. I can guess they’d become major obstructions in the rapidly-growing metropolis.
@jlelliotton5 жыл бұрын
The gates were demolished as part of a road widening scheme. They were just too narrow as the population of London outside the walls grew.
@3879keith5 жыл бұрын
rob28803:.... to destroy all those gates would have been a huge project, something definately going on!!!!....the 1700s version of crossrail...lol
@sian23375 жыл бұрын
I was about to say the same. I wonder why they demolished the gates, it’s intriguing.
@EddieTofpik7 жыл бұрын
There was a 'postern gate' next to the moat of the Tower of London that was excavated in the late 1970's by the Inner London Archaeological Unit. I worked as a volunteer there helping scrape away the overlay of 1900 odd years to reveal the earthen bank that helped support the Roman/Saxon Wall of London behind the statue of Julius Caesar in the early part of the video. My only claim to fame was I think I was the only one who found a Roman coin on the site at the time...I put my trowel right through it :(
@pcackett918 жыл бұрын
This is a great video. Having worked in the City of London until earlier this year I have visited all of these locations, but my knowledge behind them was lacking. Massive thumbs up on this one!
@Londonistvids8 жыл бұрын
thanks Peter, lovely feedback! appreciated.
@enduser633 жыл бұрын
@@Londonistvids you missed out the most important gate.
@jamesupton49963 жыл бұрын
Did this London Gates Walk a couple of weeks ago as the focal point of what became a ramble. Started at Tower Hill. The plaques with the blue route line are not as clear as could be, and there isn't quite enough signposting en route. Going into the Barbican centre though there are some lovely little garden corners with ruins. Like everything about historic London Walks you need a bit of background preparation, including on decent alehouses for the pit-stops.
@vincentdeguard47268 жыл бұрын
one of the best Londonist videos of the year so far.
@CADJewellerySkills8 жыл бұрын
The Beatles song that mentions Bishopsgate was "Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite" From Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. A glorious piece of psychedelica.
@robertewalt77895 жыл бұрын
Quebec City still has a wall around it. NYC had a wooden wall from river to river, along what is now Wall Street.
@ooglefluffg8577 жыл бұрын
It would be really neat if at least one or two were still standing, maybe even with with roads still running through them. Shame they were all demolished. I get the impression that our preservationist culture is a fairly recent invention. If they had lasted just a little while longer, at least some of them would almost certainly be Grade II listed by now.
@ramzanninety-five36396 жыл бұрын
Not a little, actually. Paris demolished its walls just over a century ago. Before the rise of Romanticism (and its subsequent interconnection with nationalism) nobody genuinely cared much about relics and artifacts, aside from some key ecclesiastical objects. The appearance of the virtue of authenticity, so to speak, is even more recent phenomenon well-established only after the onslaught of public housing, public highways, and other large-scale post-war construction projects.
@ericjamieson6 жыл бұрын
@@ramzanninety-five3639 They completely knocked down the old Euston station, and that was in the 1960s. A lot of people date the modern historic preservation movement, at least in the Anglosphere, to the loss of Euston station in the UK and the demolition of Penn Station in New York, which happened around the same time. When the forces of progress came for St Pancras station in the UK and Grand Central in NYC, they faced a huge public backlash and since then major public buildings have usually been preserved.
@bioux1016 жыл бұрын
The nature of London means that although we have some wonderful, ancient monuments the city itself is a fast moving and ever evolving city that cares little for the past.
@L.M17925 жыл бұрын
Ramzan Ninety-five of course there is no lasting city in this life. Should we then put our hope and faith in the one to follow? Yes. Breeze blocks never did it for me anyway, although I am sure their intentions are well meaning, affordable housing etc etc.
@DmanYTofficial5 жыл бұрын
Ramzan Ninety-five I live in a city in Northern Ireland. It’s the only complete walled city in Europe. The walls were built in the 1600’s and all still stand and are a tourist attraction. There are several gates in and out of the city centre, and in side there’s several shops and businesses, hotels, and even a shopping centre. It’s pretty cool!
@flamencoprof3 жыл бұрын
I am a NZer and visited London twice in the 90s. I did a few "London Walks" and found them fascinating. The "wall walk" he pointed out I would have been happy to do. What a great old city I saw. Far too much to take in in a lifetime, and I bet half of Londoners know little more than I. Thanks for an interestingly presented and informative post. BTW It reminded me of a trip I took on the Parisian underground to La Place de la Bastille, where there is no Bastille to see, just some paving to mark where one of its towers stood. (And a lot of "hipster" cafes :-)
@seanbeacher29045 жыл бұрын
We went on the walk of the gates yesterday and had great fun! A couple of hostelries were encountered enroute...great hunt for the blue plaques a really great adventure!
@Nastyswimmer3 жыл бұрын
Gate, from Germanic "gaet" (Norse "gata") meaning a path, passage or route. "Gate" originally referred to the gap in, or way through the walls. The thing that blocked that gap was a bar. When the bar was blocking the way the gate was barred - it was a barred gate
@Romartus8 жыл бұрын
I would have added St.John's Gate in Clerkenwell which is a medieval gate to show as an example of what they would have looked like in their heyday.
@garethlandy58454 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to produce such an interesting video
@SteveMorton8 жыл бұрын
The Beatles: For the benefit of Mr. Kite Performs his feat on Saturday at Bishopsgate
@jamiehdediting96618 жыл бұрын
Steve Morton Yes! I got it right!
@clemstevenson7 жыл бұрын
Apparently the song was adapted from the words on a 19th century flier that John Lennon had acquired. In other words, it was a real advertisement.
@jeanbonnefoy13775 жыл бұрын
@@clemstevenson : sure thing. I've a reprint of that very poster on my wall... "LATE NIGHT BUT THREE for the BENEFIT OF MR. KITE, Mr J. HENDERSON..." etc.
@clemstevenson5 жыл бұрын
@@jeanbonnefoy1377 Yes, the source material for songs can be a fascinating subject.
@MrExEssex5 жыл бұрын
Rhymes with: "The Hendersons will dance and sing as Mr Kite flies through the ring. Don't be late!"
@MarcusfotosDe3 жыл бұрын
This is quite sad that all the gates got demolished. In my hometown of cologne the wall got teared down in the 1800 but some of the bigger gates where kept and streets that got to big got diverted around them. Most of the Remaining struktures are in use to this day as venues, musical shools and this sort of thing.
@howardjones5435 жыл бұрын
Nice! A cool followup would be mentioning the various places that parts of the wall are still visible. I know one of the office buildings in the Aldgate end of Leadenhall Street has some, and I think the car park under the Barbican, at least.
@Liz-sc5dg3 жыл бұрын
At 3:25 there is a ruin under a walk bridge by 140 London Wall just after he introduces Aldresgate. What is or was that?
@jc441-i3q3 жыл бұрын
It's the remains of a round tower that was part of the Roman wall. Only part of it is Roman though - it was added to later in the medieval era before it fell into ruin.
@rambler2416 жыл бұрын
Cripplegate was the northern gate of a large Roman fort. The wall to the W of the gate takes a right-turn to the SW - that was the NW corner of the fort, so two sides of the fort wall were incorporated in the city wall.
@mylesrichardson20878 жыл бұрын
Great video Matt & Geoff,can't wait for the next one,Fascinating..
@annie4820007 жыл бұрын
A small section of the wall is (or used to be) visible at Tower Hill station, on the westbound platform (I think!) Barbican station used to be known as Aldersgate & Barbican. It was changed sometime in the sixties.
@danieledugre18375 жыл бұрын
Great video! Yet more places to visit on my next London trip!
@bleees16378 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video! Much like many other Londonist videos, I only wish they were slightly longer. e.g. with additional maps with overlays to show the areas and roads you're referring to etc. 😀
@Yak19864 жыл бұрын
Fascinating to discover the history of London. So many layers. An excellent video, thanks 😊
@AGMKelly8 жыл бұрын
I did work experience in 125 London Wall that was shown during the cripplegate section, love the episode!
@nlo1147 жыл бұрын
What was the significance of the demolition years 1760 and 1761?
@SloMoShort5 жыл бұрын
I walk past a few of those each day and barely give it a second look. I will do now. Thanks
@chiarac27475 жыл бұрын
This kinda makes me sad, talking about ancient buildings we can no longer admire :(
In Dutch, "kreupel" indeed means cripple, but we also have "kreupelhout" which would literally be cripple wood if that were a thing, and it means low growing vegetation in forests.
@thebritishindian15 жыл бұрын
That was really interesting! Looking forward to exploring your channel
@bobnewmanknott34335 жыл бұрын
What a great film concise and informative will l look for other videos by this chap many thanks
@thomasrice40783 жыл бұрын
Nice job! Love visiting London, so much more history than my little "corn and cows" corner of the world.
@sapper825 жыл бұрын
One part of Bishopsgate that survives today are the four dragon heads at Wallington Hall in Northumberland. Sent up North as ballast in a collier returning to Newcastltafter unloading its cargo.
@angelafrederick69728 жыл бұрын
Triple thumbs up londonist great video
@joelong72738 жыл бұрын
I'm really happy now because hearing people mention my home town (Colchester) makes me happy for some reason
@joelong72738 жыл бұрын
also I would enjoy it if you made an Inside Liverpool street video
@joelong72738 жыл бұрын
Also I loved the video
@StevenTorrey8 жыл бұрын
At 5:10 is that St. Paul's in the background. How long a walk is this? Can it be done in an afternoon? It is arduous, up and down, or level?
@douglas25103 жыл бұрын
Amazing video. Keep history coming
@06lilbig5 жыл бұрын
04:57 - A Ford Transit Van flagrantly tailgates in the box junction whilst a brazen black cabbie swerves into the opposing lane to avoid it - what an ironic way to end the video as it brings us back to the reality of our present City of London!
@HenrysAdventures3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! Happy New Year!
@ianp76613 жыл бұрын
It's so sad that at least one didn't survive. I imagine it would have looked similar to the walls and gates in york.
@danieljohnmorris7 жыл бұрын
Surely Alders gate is referring to Alderman, a Saxon term for a local government official.
@DontScareTheFish6 жыл бұрын
At 'The church of Aldgate' you point to is "St. Botolph without Aldgate". Can you caption appropriately as later in the video you make a point of "St. Sepulchre without Newgate" being outside the gate. The church just inside that gate is St Katharine Cree
@_JohnDoe4 жыл бұрын
What happened to your right hand's fingers at 4:01?
@advancelast17403 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fascinating- thank you
@peterwright62355 жыл бұрын
Lud was also a Celtic god and there were temples built in his name. It’s possible the original site of St. Paul’s was such a temple.
@mg4663 Жыл бұрын
I've always wanted to see London, so much History.
@SometimesCompitent8 жыл бұрын
1760's seems to be a popular decade for tearing down gates. What happened? I assume it had to be done because the city was growing, but what actually happened?
@bioux1016 жыл бұрын
Peter Acroyd's Biography of London is amazing if you wish to know more.
@alejandroolvera24 жыл бұрын
I like this video that shows the history of London, please make more videos.
@websitesthatneedanem8 жыл бұрын
Excellent job Matt!
@PinkThorn2428 жыл бұрын
Could the Aldersgate name have something to do with the Aldermen of the City?
@kevelliott8 жыл бұрын
That's what I wondered.
@syncrosimon5 жыл бұрын
There’s lots of references to suggest the gate was called Aldred’s Gate.👍
@stuartsviews15654 жыл бұрын
I'm sure I've seen references to Aldermansgate
@georgegreig80543 жыл бұрын
There was another gate where prostitutes hung out called Spunkcunt gate. Obviously it's never mentioned now.
@zel38883 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think it might be based on the anglo-saxon word for nobleman - Alderman.
@KristerL8 жыл бұрын
Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite is the Beatles song. On the Sgt.Peppers Lonely Heart Club Band album
@ThomasInLondon5 жыл бұрын
I’m wondering if Bishopsgate might take it’s name not from any particular bishop but rather from my hometown King’s Lynn, which used to be called Bishop’s Lynn before the reformation and is the terminus so to speak of the old roman road leading out from Bishopsgate ( A10) to BIshop’s Lynn? Any thoughts on how possible or likely this hypothesis is?
@MyMpc14 жыл бұрын
I'm confused at Bishop's Gate named after a 7th century Bishop...so not a Roman gate at all then? Or maybe Bishop's Gate was a later name given to it?
@LordHeath19725 жыл бұрын
Great video, I didn't know any of that stuff. Oh, and PS. I hope that white van at 5:00 in the box junction got a bloody ticket!
@PhilWaud8 жыл бұрын
"Being for the benefit of Mr Kite" is one of my favourite Beatles lyrics
@Nickle3143 жыл бұрын
Several missing. There were two gates on London Bridge. Billingsgate and Norton Folgate another example
@raymasraymas5 жыл бұрын
As any resident of York (and perhaps other cities) would tell you, the suffix “-gate” means road e.g. Gillygate, Stonegate & Petergate. Similarly “bar” means gate, e.g. Bootham Bar, Monkbar and most interestingly, Micklegate Bar! Why is this different in London?
@markturner42195 жыл бұрын
Even though the word may have its origins in old norse for road or path, it was also used to describe the gap in a wall or stockade that a road or path passed through. Over centuries usage of words from the same root word evolve differently in different communities. This is demonstrated frequently among different dialects within the country. Because York was in the Danelaw (approximately the modern day counties of Leicester, York, Nottingham, Derby, Lincoln, Essex, Cambridge, Suffolk, Norfolk, Northampton, Huntingdon, Bedford (North of the Great Ouse), Hertford, Middlesex, and Buckingham) and London wasn't. That is why there are many different place name styles, words and language usages between the two areas of England. It is really noticeable even today in Bedfordshire where the villages North of the Great Ouse are completely different in character to those South of the Great Ouse.
@brentritchie61993 жыл бұрын
Excellent video thank you. All demolished around 1760. That’s a few lifetimes ago. If only they could have imagined how it would change
@DS-fk7ed3 жыл бұрын
Such a shame all of the old gates have been lost. Even if just one had survived it would be a wonderful addition to London's architecture. What a fantastic sight it would be.
@JetskiDex8 жыл бұрын
this is really cool, didnt realise any of this
@chrisclark17615 жыл бұрын
Interestingly; Dublin also had a prison in one of it's city gates. Also called Newgate.
@ElectricMotive8 жыл бұрын
Hi, I never knew about these gates or even a wall around that part of London.
@Londonistvids8 жыл бұрын
heya! indeed... there's a walk you can do (as shown in the video), which is fantastic to do, following where the wall used to be. do it sometime! www.historic-uk.com/HistoryMagazine/DestinationsUK/Londons-Roman-City-Wall/
@Richard-fv7rq5 жыл бұрын
Lots of history there, fantastic stuff....
@andrewjohnston4072 ай бұрын
Still find the Roman wall and the gates fascinating. Always will.
@glitch44658 жыл бұрын
You should do programmes for that channel London Live
@spencerfoster86343 жыл бұрын
I know it's post Roman but as a kid I was fascinated by the Tower's "Traitor's gate."
@jerrynadler28833 жыл бұрын
really wish historical preservation societies existed in 1760....
@bushyconn8 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm. Full of perhaps and maybes. Its amazing how little we really know about the history of London, isn't it? But it os good to find someone prepared put his neck out. Keep up the good work!!
@erichb22498 жыл бұрын
Around Aldersgate (Barbican) there are some remains of the wall and tower. You should have shown some pictures of it.
@nuhsjus34588 жыл бұрын
love the blog found so many good things to do as good as time out
@261Knight_AsteriskJerry8 жыл бұрын
When will you upload a video of The Timeline of Gate in London?
@Shif80 Жыл бұрын
I may be wrong but I think the presenter was from somewhere near coventry? And love the use of the word ‘engirdled’!
@pravinshingadia73373 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video - thank you
@RobManser773 жыл бұрын
That was really interesting, thank you.
@matthewbrooker5 жыл бұрын
"Engirdled." Love it!
@WillRankinJourno5 жыл бұрын
‘Engirdled’ 👍🏼👍🏼
@BigBennKlingon3 жыл бұрын
The 18th century is known for it's neoclassicist obsession with Roman art and architecture. I've always found it paradoxical that the gates were torn down at the exact moment that you would think they would be most appreciated.
@BryonLape5 жыл бұрын
Seems like quite a bit of wall between the Thames and Aldgate.
@JamieConway8 жыл бұрын
"engirdled"... must try use that in a sentence
@malcbarrass70905 жыл бұрын
For a City Wall complete with most of it's gates come to York.
@highpath47764 жыл бұрын
Or Tenby in Wales
@pangolin74188 жыл бұрын
As well as St Sepulchre Without Newgate mentioned near the end - there's St Botolph Without Aldgate (just visible written on the board in the camera shot) AND a St Botolph Without Bishopsgate, AND a St Botolph Without Aldersgate. (There's a St Martin Within Ludgate too.) The tiled panel showing a section of the Roman Wall walk is one of originally 21 numbered panels set out over 30 years ago by the Museum of London. Over half are missing now, but they are worth looking out for when walking the line of the wall. The explanatory text and artwork from the panels is still archived away in the backwaters of the Museum of London's site here: archive.museumoflondon.org.uk/MuseumOfLondon/Templates/microsites/londinium/article_lite.aspx?NRMODE=Published&NRNODEGUID=%7B30E0F3BC-9E55-4FA6-A90E-DAB57D74371C%7D&NRORIGINALURL=%2FLondinium%2FToday%2FLondonWallWalk%2F&NRCACHEHINT=NoModifyGuest
@mattfromlondonist8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Pangolin. For anyone interested in why there are so many St Botolph churches in London, see our earlier article on the subject: londonist.com/2015/12/st-botolph
@pangolin74188 жыл бұрын
Informative as always... I am reminded by a comment below in which St Giles is mentioned that I should have included that too as it is St Giles Without Cripplegate
@ggmtv1394 Жыл бұрын
Well done, and thanks.
@Nickle3145 жыл бұрын
You're missing at least two. There were two gates on London Bridge, one on the north side, one on the south. Then what about Bishopsgate, Norton Folgate, ...
@squonk26305 жыл бұрын
Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite, anyone who leaves out the word 'being' does not get a point.
@burtonlee223 жыл бұрын
This is excellent, thank you!
@samoinborut13397 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I'm in love London.
@CraigTheCriminal3 жыл бұрын
Extremely sad all were demolished instead of kept for historical importance.
@gibsonmitchell4 жыл бұрын
It’s interesting that all these years later we’re able to trace the actual line of the wall and the gates. I’m not a historian or anything notable like that but I’m curious to know.
@neatodd8 жыл бұрын
Really interesting! Thanks.
@Dainichi_Nyorai3 жыл бұрын
What about south of the river? Any walls or gates there?
@earlystrings13 жыл бұрын
I always enjoyed the still-standing medieval walls and gates of York, a city which was much too poor and provincial in the 18th century to have had them torn down.
@alconamx5 жыл бұрын
Wonderful, cheers!
@chicagodaddy14 жыл бұрын
Are you related to Laurence Brown from Lost in the Pond on KZbin ?
@Tubekeny18 жыл бұрын
Great work. Thank you
@user-ky6vw5up9m6 жыл бұрын
The Luftwaffe flattened Aldersgate /Cripplegate area in World War 2. The only buildings left standing were St Giles of Cripplegate, the Fire Station and Whitbread Brewery. Now site of Barbican.
@PaulNurse15 жыл бұрын
Nice informative video but why were all these landmarks demolished in the same year
@scottanderson81675 жыл бұрын
“Here are all the plaques at ancient places we tore down to build more cheap housing.”
@incandescentwithrage5 жыл бұрын
I take your point that more should be preserved, but "more cheap housing"? There isn't any cheap housing in the UK, Let alone London. Maybe cheap compared to the property you own, but not in respect to the multiplier of the average income. It used to be greatly lower.
@scottanderson81675 жыл бұрын
IncandescentWithRage quite so. You’ll forgive my cheek.
@cargumdeu5 жыл бұрын
lot of old London was damaged by the Luftwaffe, much more damage was done by town planners from the 60s -70s-80s.
@Joe-fe4xi5 жыл бұрын
cargumdeu I mean if you read the signs, they were destroyed c1770
@jambocj11275 жыл бұрын
Also they were demolished in the 1700s so most likely other reasons to demolish it
@DRIVEFROMHOME4K3 жыл бұрын
nice video mate , thanks a lot
@christophers_verified3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful vid! Thanks!
@jul30ie5 жыл бұрын
Why were they practically all demolished in 1760-61?...
@pedanticradiator3 жыл бұрын
Road widening
@mhappy018 жыл бұрын
Why where most of the gates demolished in 1760/61?
@mattfromlondonist8 жыл бұрын
No longer served any defensive purpose and were just getting in the way of traffic.
@szymongorczynski76218 жыл бұрын
Such a shame...
@stephenf34338 жыл бұрын
+No. 85 Merlin RPSI No. 85 Merlin
@szymongorczynski76218 жыл бұрын
+Andy Roid Aye, that's right.
@mhappy018 жыл бұрын
but is it a coincidence they where all demolished at the same time?