The “General Category” Is India’s Greatest Scam

In the previous episode of Past Continuous, we looked at how India's "middle class" is actually just a tiny group of upper caste elites. (Watch here: • Does The Indian Middle... )
In this episode, we explain how this group managed to "forget" their caste while converting their traditional caste privileges into success in the modern world. And we explore how this collective "forgetting" affected everyone else in India.
India Ink is a public history project that simplifies complicated ideas from Indian history that are relevant to today's debates. More at indiaink.org.
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Corrections:
1. In our section about the Mandal Commission's population estimates, we said the Commission estimated that the OBC population was 56%. It's actually 52%.
2. In the video, we quote a 2009 study as saying that applicants with upper caste names were twice as likely to get selected as applications with Dalit names. The original paper actually says the odds of a Dalit being called for an interview were 0.68 of the odds of an upper caste applicant. The full paper is accessible here: dalitstudies.or...
3. We say that reservations is only in the Directive Principles. That isn't correct. It's also mentioned in Articles 15(4) and 16(4) of the Constitution where they were still seen as an "exception". This has since changed, most notably through the case of NM Thomas where the Supreme Court clarified that these shouldn't be exceptions but were fundamental to equality. For more about how the jurisprudence has changed, see indconlawphil....
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Sources:
1. Source for IIT Admissions data from 1969 and 2011: web.mit.edu/ske...
2. Source for data about upper caste in general category in IIT Madras in 2018: www.newindiane...
3. Gender ratio at IIT: economictimes....
4. Upper castes in courts: timesofindia.i...
5. Upper castes in newsrooms: www.newslaundr...
6. Upper castes in corporate boards: www.epw.in/jou...
7. Studies about caste discrimination in elite educational institutions:
journals.sagep...
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8. For examples of violence against Dalits for riding horses, just google it.
9. Subramanian, Ajantha. 2019. The Caste of Merit: Engineering Education in India www.jstor.org/...
10. Deshpande, Satish. “Towards a Biography of the ‘General Category.’” Economic & Political Weekly, no. 15, 2013. www.jstor.org/.... Our summary of the paper: indiaink.org/2...
11. Satyanarayana, K. 2014. “Dalit Reconfiguration of Caste: Representation, Identity and Politics,” Critical Quaterly 56 (3). 46-61 onlinelibrary....
12. Mandal Commission Report ncbc.nic.in/Use...
13. Ambedkar, BR. 1936. Annihilation of Caste www.mea.gov.in...
14. Galanter, Marc. 1984. Competing Equalities. www.amazon.co....
15. Omvedt, Gail. 1990. "Twice-Born Riot Against Democracy," 1990 www.epw.in/jou...
16. Roy, Rajat. 2020. "From Postcolonial Irony to Dalit Truth: A Perspective on Experience," EPW www.epw.in/jou...
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[@swarooppatil191]

Hardwork nahi sirf bhikh mangana Hain inko😅

[@MadhavS9045]

You have quoted 1 sided facts. I have given SSC exams and i witnessed majority of general catagory seats were occupied by obcs and they have their quota also. Maybe there are many meritorious and rich students from general but average and poor students are also there who feels really frustrated that they are born in this country. If others have faced partiality in past under kingship, you are doing the same in democracy. With that logic, they should be given relaxation after they commit a crime. A person shouldn't be punished for the wrong deeds of his past generations. Govt should work to remove any such discrimination rather than continuously giving reservations because it is a never-ending cause until it is political. 🙏

[@prakhar__shukla]

They won't talk about that. It's against their propaganda.

[@MadhavS9045]

What about meena caste. They are the most affluent in rajasthan and still falls in st. Reservation is never ending until it unreserved comes in reserved cstagory😂😂😂

[@timothy1232]

What about meena people who get killed by upper caste people what about Dalit girls who get raped by upper caste what about those st/sc who are not getting house rents in Brahmin majority states like uttarakhand what about those st/sc who get social boycott from upper caste don't you feel bad about them😢

[@rghhhhhh]

​@@timothy1232brahman are not in majority in Uttrakhand... It's general... Shatriya.. Constitite 35 percent in uk

[@bloodwargaming3662]

​@@rghhhhhh60% Brahmins hai

[@PartiallyAnonymous456]

​@@timothy1232anecdotal evidence .

[@Trust-z9v]

​@@timothy1232where proof?

[@cutetoddlers22]

I posted this link on WhatsApp and it burned some a***s.

[@TussharGopal]

Delhi mei paida hua, IAS ka beta, apni caste n mai jaanta n vo, pr bde hote hote, , usse apne naam ka fayda milne lga, fr vo bhi khne lga hme dbaya gya, hme reservation milna chahiye, jbki dost h mera, pr basically kitna bhi ameer ho jaye koi, agr kuch km effort m mil rha h, who would not want, shayd general ko milta, to hm bhi alag alag logic dete justify krne k liye, so good, it will take a revolution to make this system 'fairer' I am not saying ki khi bhi discrimination h, aaj bhi rajasthan - mp m h, but it is like kre koi, bhre sb

[@Aditya-mj5gy]

15% for SC,15% for ST , 27% for OBC,5% for EWS , 20% for girls in each catagory , making upto approx 75% seat are reserved, so only 25% is left for open competition, I am student (from general category ) got 2108 rank in jee advance , but I am sharing the room with a student having rank 20672 , my mark were almost 2.5 times higher than him but we are in same college,in Same branch what more you want . Also their are talks to introduce Reservation among faculties and when this happen I can tell it would be last nail in coffin of meritocracy

[@taviishbhattacharjee9279]

oh no! what blasphemy!! having to share a room with another person from a different socio-economic background??? if you dont want such things to persist, stop identifying as a hindu upper caste. denounce religion.

[@bloodwargaming3662]

Ok now pls tell whats your background i.e family income where do you stay (like City or Village) what type of house you lived in ?

[@h.muralikrishnan368]

@@bloodwargaming3662That does not matter! Do we need incompetent students to be the future of india, irrespective of their background?

[@NitinKumar-qv1fw]

​@@h.muralikrishnan368don't believe in privilege why was enjoyed by all upper caste?

[@OnlyJEE-Preparation]

@Aditya-mj5gy Hi sir, Should I leave india to study Abroad or should I study in my state colleges in Hyderabad ? Bcoz I am a general category student (dropper) and got 92.3%ile and the cutoff this time is 93.2%ile 🙃

[@vijaysridhar9777]

General formula for affirmative policy propagandists at IITs --> if reserved category perform well --> credit to reservations , increase it ; if reserved category does not perform well --> oh! there is discrimination at IITs forward class is dominating, --> spread propaganda--> pressure govt to increase quota; Something sinister is going on!

[@woodsofchaos]

Why do you keep coming back to this video? You do realize you're giving them money with every view? Which is basically what their channel is for.

[@vijaysridhar9777]

@@woodsofchaos Well! that's true! Actually the channel is denigrating a particular section of indians which is an irresponsible act, which is why i commented, also such channels tend to create a myopic view of a very crucial subject to a large audience by putting manipulated statistics and subjectively interpreting it. But in the end , yes as you said it only increases its view!

[@MrPitch804]

Most underrated channel. Needs to be amplified. And the resources data attached with the video is good gesture for reading and re reading. 🙏

[@shikharshukla4852]

When a reserved category person obtains power and money , why his children take benefit of reservation? Isn't this the same thing you criticised upper caste people for?

[@NileshKumar-nr2vj]

Reserved category seats are anyway not filled. You take up any field and do a google search. And further you are saying that those who have gotten a decent job because of reservation should be excluded from it, so that more seats could be emptied for upper castes ??? At the most reservation can make you IAS, or Doctor or Professor. That's it... You are not going to become members of Central Secretariat, if you don't believe me check the 89 members list. And there actually is income limit in OBC reservation, if you don't already know, so if you are 1st class employees your children can't avail reservation. This policy benefits a very very few number of people. It's just a immediate pill for the disease that is caste, but it can't nourish you for eternity, that's comes only after regular intake of nutrients. So beyond reservation there is so much that needs to be done. A child can take reservation only if he/she has passed at least 12 year of schooling. That's where we need more equality than anywhere else. In my cousins Primary school, only 3 upper caste children are studying, around 35 are OBCs and somewhere around 20 are SC/ST and 1 Muslim...

[@shikharshukla4852]

So, if seats are vacant, it means 2 things:- either people are not competent enough or reservation is a failure. If second is true, then it should be abolished if it is not benefitting you people.

[@NileshKumar-nr2vj]

@@shikharshukla4852 seats are empty because brahmin caste system has failed lower caste people to be able to reach to a level where a minimum amount of seats are not even filled. And reason being your casteist institutions. Most seat are govt sector job are vacant, govt is not recruitment. Most number of seats for OBC... I still don't understand the logic you use for saying reservation is nit working because seats are empty ? I mean what ? If reservation is not working then why upper caste is so hell bent on taking down and celebrating EWS (ie savarana reservation) ?

[@vijaysridhar9777]

Well said!

[@Sathvik-kt7ny]

Bro we can't argue anything if we argue they will play caste angle and say castiest rather than talking straight without diverting topic

[@arvindminj4303]

Joining IIT was the single most damaging chapter of my life. The average CGPA of SC/ST is around 5-6 while the average of upper caste is 8.5+. Other general categories have average of around 7+. The reserved category students in IITs are as good as not having an IIT degree.

[@siddhantkumar1028]

Never taking ownership for your actions is the reason why most lower caste people don't make it to high positions. Its always someone else's fault according to you lot

[@bharata5496]

If India was Hindu Majority because of Brahmins , then the state would have had Recognised Kashmiri Pandits genocide in Independent India and Ram Mandir and all would have been so easy. But it isn't so don't peddle fake narratives This channel is peddling fake Communist narrative. Go to Sangam Talks for real history to understand all such stuff. Just read Islamic texts and Bible and compare it with Indian Texts. You will know the difference. This channel is full of Hindu Hate or Dharma hate and for that they just need to Hate Brahmins. They are just keeping you disconnected from your Civilizational History.

[@siddhantkumar1028]

@Jagruti Nag My bro/sis?, I love you as my fellow countryman. And I understand the struggle that you went through in the past. But today, the field is skewed in your favour more than anything. I'm not here complaining about reservation. But I expect you to stop living in the past and accept the real reason why lower castes aren't progressing as much as they should. Without acceptance, there could be no remedy.

[@mkay7359]

Evidence? The fact that you have no idea of what you're talking about blows my mind 😂

[@Yours_agrwl_099]

@@mkay7359 he is saying right & same thing happens in other medical & government colleges too.

[@vijaysridhar9777]

Not all general category candidates are thread wearing brahmins , please note that point

[@Prasanth631]

He's not saying they all are, but because of the social captial they have they are in position where it is more likely to fall to them.

[@prakyathkumar8618]

@@Prasanth631 no dude he said exactly that, all general merit people are upper caste

[@mohamedismail6273]

@@prakyathkumar8618 that 80 percent true

[@prakyathkumar8618]

@@mohamedismail6273 not really no, anyone can compete in the general merit category if you apply for it, even i was surprised. But yes you need to have the score and marks and the rank to compete in the general merit, infact in some courses you're better off opting for the general merit even if you're sc st or obc like me, provided you have the marks because there's not much competition there, unlike in the reserved seats. I just ticked the general merit in the application form and no one asked for my caste certificate or no one questioned my 10th standard marks card where my OBC caste was written.

[@prakyathkumar8618]

@Crazy Potato ok yes there are people who do that, but that's a different issue, and i have faced it personally too from different people not only Brahmins. my problem with this video is he lied about general merit, his videos has 100 lies with a grain of truth and his appropriate the struggle of genuine victims for his agenda

[@guruaiyar796]

Brilliant. Fantastic. 99,9% of UCs are loath to admit this. Social Justice is something that they believe only about African-Americans. Ambedkar was absolutely spot on. Excellent narration by the presenter

[@varunvarun1293]

Congratulations.. u also received charity from me 😂

[@sachithrao6353]

@@varunvarun1293 live in dreams

[@brownweed2047]

There is no reservations system America

[@ddbsiblings7265]

@@brownweed2047 what? That's nonsense. The usa has affirmative action and holistic review.

[@swarajyadav2191]

@Shruti Sinha the fact that you want indian policies to emulate american ones speaks volumes about your understanding of Indian and American history and socioeconomic situations.

[@KM-rk3ok]

General category is open to everyone. This is not a secret, everyone knows this. People of SCST and OBC regularly get into General seats, all across the country. Your characterisation of the situation is false.

[@DeepakKumar-me2bk]

Bro, this thing has ended. No one from other categories get seats in Open seats.

[@satyakichatterjee4229]

@@DeepakKumar-me2bk from where do you get these bogus news

[@docm7583]

Yup

[@rdkumar4348]

@@DeepakKumar-me2bk abey chutiye, Me khud ye problem face kr raha hoon, Obc sc st ke jyada marks wale candidate general ki seat kha rahe hai, Abhi mera hi example lele, Rajsthan central univerisity me, Unreserved ke liye 11 seats thi Usme se 7 obc walo ne kha li, Bs 4 seats me ur walo ko liya hai, Ghatiya reservation rules😥

[@Sreetam89]

​@@rdkumar4348bro focus on private jobs instead of government

[@doctorjoy2688]

I challenge you to answer this question. A student who comes from a poor family, is not a brahmin and does not fall in SC/ST either....is he not the most disadvantaged in this system? I have seen so many of my rich friends taking advantage of their SC/ST certificate. I am not a Brahmin and am very unlucky not to fall under SC/ST. Why even in postgraduate competitive exams like NEET PG reservation is there? SC/ST needs reservation even after becoming a doctor? where's the merit? And I am not even a Brahmin so what am I getting punished for?

[@bharata5496]

If India was Hindu Majority because of Brahmins , then the state would have had Recognised Kashmiri Pandits genocide in Independent India and Ram Mandir and all would have been so easy. But it isn't so don't peddle fake narratives This channel is peddling fake Communist narrative. Go to Sangam Talks for real history to understand all such stuff. Just read Islamic texts and Bible and compare it with Indian Texts. You will know the difference. This channel is full of Hindu Hate or Dharma hate and for that they just need to Hate Brahmins. They are just keeping you disconnected from your Civilizational History.

[@lovelyhomoeopathicclinic9066]

Also, he mentioned that there's 50 percent reservation for 18 percent upper castes. He doesn't even know the difference between open seats and reserved seats, LOL. It would probably come as a surprise to him that the seats for SC/ST aren't 22% only but 22% plus the open seats.

[@idkwhattonamethisshti]

Just take a look at his channel, do you really think it's worth arguing with this guy?

[@justarandomguy1541]

i agree but are you saying i'm being oppressed (yes that the right word to use at this point) because i'm born a brahmin?And before you hop in and say my ancestors did that and this, what did i do? and my family has a low income. It really hurts when your classmates say he/she dont need to work too hard to get into iit/nits because they have reservations( that person is crazy rich btw which makes it even worse).

[@doctorjoy2688]

@@justarandomguy1541 I understand your pain....but I am NOT a brahmin....read my comment again. Neither am I a brahmin....neither am I SC/ST....I am a non-brahmin general category student....so what is my fault?

[@ntr4475]

What we need to understand is THERE IS NO RESERVED SEATS FOR GENERAL CATEGORY STUDENTS, They are open competition seats , General category students fight for them and achieve them not like it's reserved NO !

[@aldahrishi4795]

See results of jpsc here tribals ans sts crossed 50 percent qota later 100 sts were kicked out to give general category reservation

[@vedantbansod9900]

did you even watched the video lmao, it's literally the first example how non reserved seats are occupied by UCs

[@aldahrishi4795]

@@vedantbansod9900 they are crying even after getting EWS

[@ntr4475]

@@aldahrishi4795 And you all are crying not getting selected even after getting 50% reservation in total LOL!

[@adityasinghyadav78]

@@ntr4475 you are crying even after getting 41 % resrvation lol!

[@anand7d]

What an amazing work! The development of argument with history woven into it and carefully chosen studies and papers.. excellent man!!!!! I would have even loved more if u had added mention of 2 more studies.. one abt efficiency of reserved category against general category in railways.. and another about performance of reserved category at iits in successive years..

[@IndiaInkHistory]

There's so much more that we wish we could've included. But we were worried that the video was getting too long.

[@anand7d]

@@IndiaInkHistory right.. the length is fine right now.. i have sent it to many friends, almost all watched it fully

[@purushottam4728]

@@IndiaInkHistory include brother and express freely.

[@SrikarGunda]

If you can, why don't you give a summary of that here?

[@adash7841]

@@IndiaInkHistory you are extremely biased you believe in tribalism you paint every upper caste lower caste in black and white color where in reality not every upper caste or lower caste think the same. You are complaining about general categories but in reservation only top 1% rich obc sc st get benifit rest poor obc sc st don't get any representation you don't talk about them. You are extremely biased full of misinformation.

[@mochi_minutes8758]

JEE 2021 My sc friend score - 89 Me Gen score - 128 My friend is in NIT and I'm in private college now🙂

[@mochi_minutes8758]

@equinox reservations should be only for economically weaker sections not for one who can afford every expenses and just using the SC or ST tag

[@swarooppatil191]

We feel ur pain😔

[@mochi_minutes8758]

@@swarooppatil191 😀🙏

[@reverbmusic8444]

@@mochi_minutes8758 reservation is not meant to make a poor person rich. it is meant to give them equal representation in various sectors, which in history were 100% reserved by upper caste people.

[@digitalsupport1568]

A quick question, it would be great if you answer. Q- you talked everything at macro level but as a general category, I feel cheated at micro level. What am I going to say is complete truth, just listen or try to understand us. My friend who was obc, grew up with me, went to same school with me, I even got to know about his obc reservation when we gave JEE together. We are at same economic status and he got nit silchar civil and I couldn't get any college, in any counseling round. His jee main score was 98, mine was 155. This incident happened at micro level &this hit me a little. I know you will say about oppression in past, backward status and concept of reservation. I've no problem with the concept of reservation but tell me, what happened with me was right?

[@digitalsupport1568]

I left engineering & did BA hons because I couldn't pay too much in pvt eng colleges. This is necessary for you to listen because you think every general category student is rich & has all money. And one thing,.. In future, people like my friend avail general quota in any examination. Then there will be one seat less for general. 27% obc got 27%seats + one obc got 1 general seat. Keep this is mind that I'm not talking about SC ST reservation. They are totally valid. So don't talk about oppression of SC while giving reservation on OBC. I'm specifically talking about obc

[@vijaysridhar9777]

such truths won't enter into the heads of casteist oppressors seeking reservation increase! UR cat =suffer

[@tsmkris]

Let me help you understand this. You are also a victim of this caste discrimination from top (not bottom). If one establishes a privilege.based access based society and call it merit, they have to sacrifice a few of their own kind and then make you feel insecure that a. But for reservation, you would have beaten your friend. In your case, you explain it was a person from OBC with similar economic status. Many will give even more micro examples of a rich OBC or Dalit making it. b. They will make you feel even more worse that the same rich Dalit or OBC is getting jobs for their grand children and that it is not widely distributed. The truth is this: A meritocratic society not only oppresses lower castes but also a percentage of its own. What stopped the 85% upper castes who occupy these ministry of education from opening more colleges of merit given the size of India? Instead 65-70% of higher education funds of centre gets pumped into the few IITs we have. The rest of engineering colleges of govt languish without funds and so end up with poor equality education. To fill this cry for demand, they allowed private colleges. Unfortunately, these are even more worse money making machines that quality got sacrificed even though they have no quota by caste. Which is why the rich creamy layer lf general caste which has accumulated enough capital is now sending their less meritorious children (who can't slog for JEE) to US and other places spending 4-5 crores to help in undergraduate studies. Net net: you have not lost your seat to a undeserving OBC who was able to get it because of fight for representation but you were denied an opportunity by the same caste you come from through their foolish focus on merit. Merit, like science, is a double edged weapon. It is useful when everyone in society has equal opportunity. Unfortunately, it hurts the rule giver even more. If you are truly rational, you will realise that your anger should be directed at the rich upper castes which are able to find even more opportunities for their children. Let me take my example: It got into IIT in an age when there was no coaching class or this sort of competition. I belong go General category. Since then, none of my close relatives and their children have not made it into IIT. Luckily, since I am from south (even though I did my schooling onwards in Delhi), the education system allowed a lot of my relatives to send to many private engineering colleges which are not half as good as IITs. Moreover, many got into IT and computer science even though by sheer merit they wouldn't have gotten those courses. Since their parents had capital, they finished and now many are working in IT companies (which boomed in South) and making even more money than me working in US etc., They are simply lucky people who were in the right place at right time. Similarly, my relatives who are poor and couldn't afford to send them to private colleges have kids who are working in small business, menial tasks etc., Many of my other relatives don't want to be associated with them blaming them for lack of hardwork or foresight or simply egging them saying "Indian system doesn't allow merit. That's why we want our kids to be abroad. They reward merit." Hope you have understand the power structures better and the oppressive power of merit. If you are the thinking kind, please read Micheal Sandel's "The Tyranny of Merit." It will make you understand why you should fight alongside the disadvantaged people of India for a fairer world.

[@pastafarian3758]

You have to blame your ancestors. If they hadn't discriminated others on the basis of birth then others wouldn't have remained socially backward and wouldn't have asked for reservation. If you go by so called upper caste data as it provided in this video i.e.,18% and you are outcompeting your ilk and over representing than your population sizes then it's not the problem of oppressed classes.

[@Aman-qr6wi]

@@pastafarian3758 not only ancestors. He has also inherited social capital from his ancestors. He may not be rich individually, but he may have family networks, land and asets, rich community to help and other caste privileges.

[@sponge5706]

Putting everything aside dude tell me what are people getting educated for?? What is IIT making?? Engineers right?? What are these engineers to do?? Make better society through innovation right?? How come a guy with great problem solving skills and maybe creativeness towards solving a problem losses his much deserving seat to a guy with 60% ?? Isn't what we trynna do is wrong to that one hardworking individual who did his best .....he isn't supposed to bear for his ancestors doing and if you think so then u got ur education wrong buddy and I know u wouldn't dare to reply to this just like other comments here with some sense asking u questions ....go on mate

[@bogosbinted._.]

Exactly that’s what I have been saying. This is science not government exams. Science needs scientific thinking and the aptitude to comprehend the stuff being taught to you. How would a person who got in with 60% compete with one that got in with 80% it is an obvious fact that the 60% guy that got in with reservation would not get the job as compared to the 80% guy. This is the real story not the one being *preached*. Nobody loves to discriminate but if your credentials and skills don’t qualify you for the job it doesn’t matter if you’re sc or general they see what you posses now not what your family did ages back.

[@akemrelax9762]

Hey India Ink, I just came across your channel yesterday and I love what you do. I have a video request. Can you make a video on how being a Punjabi became a "Jatt only club" and casteism in Sikhism? As a Punjabi Sikh I see this blatant casteism everywhere, in songs and movies too. There is no representation of lower castes in the culture and their last names are used as slurs. It will be relevant since you talk about caste and religious divide being used as a cover for casteism. In Sikhism too the conversation revolves around Hindu vs. Sikh and the caste issue is ignored.

[@IndiaInkHistory]

We will try and look into it in future videos!

[@bharata5496]

If India was Hindu Majority because of Brahmins , then the state would have had Recognised Kashmiri Pandits genocide in Independent India and Ram Mandir and all would have been so easy. But it isn't so don't peddle fake narratives This channel is peddling fake Communist narrative. Go to Sangam Talks for real history to understand all such stuff. Just read Islamic texts and Bible and compare it with Indian Texts. You will know the difference. This channel is full of Hindu Hate or Dharma hate and for that they just need to Hate Brahmins. They are just keeping you disconnected from your Civilizational History.

[@abhisheksingh4490]

@@bharata5496 you only care because they are Kashmiri pandits but don't able to see caste atrocities so hypocrite of you

[@xCarbonBlack]

Just simply leave religion, all religions will die, Hinduism is the stronghold of castiesm, Sikhism does have it's influences, so you can see the connection. Jatt sikhs are just a hybrid of other races like Iranians, Mongols etc. It's your land, don't let these invaders change that.

[@piyush98182]

Mujhe lag raha hain aap ek aur partition karwa doge 😂😂😂. Well Accha explain kiya hain... Now I will watch all your remaining videos....

[@ramzanchhipa]

Loved Your Content, Gave Shoutout. Waiting for the next Episode of the past continuous series!!

[@satyapriyadarshi93]

LOL. Getting into IITs after scoring 12 marks (SCs) out of 360 is exactly what meritocracy means. Poor kids from general category are thrown out of the IIT entrance gate after scoring 200 odd marks is the justice for 'so-called oppression'.

[@yog-sadhna3415]

@@satyapriyadarshi93 80% of india is lower caste. 55% obc and 25% sc and st. Do you want 20% for all to suceed

[@varunvarun1293]

@@yog-sadhna3415 if they are deserving why not

[@satyapriyadarshi93]

@@yog-sadhna3415 you need to have strong science background to understand engineering especially at IITs. Otherwise, you can't survive in IITs. What is the point studying there then? It's not a government job.

[@nsharat5498]

@@satyapriyadarshi93 which year IIT Cut-off????

[@aattaluri]

Thanks so much for these two episodes that dispel "castelessness" and explain caste capital in current times! Thank you for bringing up dignity that is also taken away by dominant/oppressor castes.

[@BrockKaFan]

हे भगवान Indians को ब्रिटेन में आरक्षण दो। ये हमारा हक है। 😭😭😭 😁😁😁😁😁

[@AarooParoo]

"Reservation is remedy for sick society and not charity." Wow! I literally applauded with one hand while frying pakoda with other hand. Genious work! Keep it up!

[@keyurpatel1982]

Caste was never birth based. The following data just proves it..... See below ---- The Centre said the flaws were glaring from the simple statistics that in the 1931 Census, the total number of castes enumerated were just 4,147 but in the 2011 SECC, these were more than 46 lakh. “Assuming that some castes may bifurcate into sub-castes, the total number cannot be exponentially high to this extent,” it said. “SECC 2011 data suffer from infirmities making it unusable for any official purposes and cannot be mentioned as any official document,” it said and informed the court that Census 2021, preparations for which are in the final stages, would collect data on SCs and STs and not on enumeration of OBCs. ---- Can you please explain to me from where did 49 lakhs new castes come up in the last 80 years ??? You have been living in India and you don't know that people frequently make up their castes ???

[@bharata5496]

If India was Hindu Majority because of Brahmins , then the state would have had Recognised Kashmiri Pandits genocide in Independent India and Ram Mandir and all would have been so easy. But it isn't so don't peddle fake narratives This channel is peddling fake Communist narrative. Go to Sangam Talks for real history to understand all such stuff. Just read Islamic texts and Bible and compare it with Indian Texts. You will know the difference. This channel is full of Hindu Hate or Dharma hate and for that they just need to Hate Brahmins. They are just keeping you disconnected from your Civilizational History.

[@bharata5496]

It's General section - open for all. Muslim, Christians All Hindus etc not just Brahmins

[@ravikattakwal4960]

This is a great video man! Love it. Immensely insightful. Keep it up, Brother!

[@woodsofchaos]

0:50 can you explain this? Any non-upper caste who got lower than computer engineering would be taking a reserved seat obviously. That's why non-upper castes won't be taking non-reserved seats. Because vast majority will have a chance to use reservation to get a better branch. And then you'll be left with a population group with excess of upper castes, so obviously all the unreserved seats will go to upper castes. At best you could say "why doesn't the computer science department have equal representation of all castes." Which would be true, but that is significantly from claiming that the whole iit didn't have as many lower caste people selected without reservation. They might just be lagging behind by a small margin, and so most of them would be applicable to use the reserved seats. Am i missing something here???

[@woodsofchaos]

@CasteistHunter I know that, and that's not what I'm saying. I can't explain any better than I did in my original comment so idk what to tell you.

[@adash7841]

@CasteistHunter no you are so wrong. Many upper caste who born in poor family they still do excellent in exam because they know they don't have reservation they have to read they have to give their best performance it's extremely compitition and challenge made them good in score where in sc st compitition is decreased so obviously they don't do enough hard work to get good mark. It's simple as that.

[@govindagrawal6817]

REVERSE DISCRIMINATION Is also a Discrimination. Fun fact- Most of the leaders who worked for elevation of dalits and others were of so called Opressive Upper caste be it Gandhi, Nehru

[@DM-ui1oy]

Society evolves, reservation should evolve too. It is criminal that a private school educated backward caste student from a big city should get reservation over a poor forward caste student from a small backward town. That is unjust. This film ignores that.

[@flowingcode8069]

Is it criminal that a private school educated and upper caste student from a big city should get a general category seat at all over a poor backward caste student from a small backward town?

[@DM-ui1oy]

@@flowingcode8069 The only ones getting reservation should be poor children. Caste or religion or region is totally irrelevant. Thank you

[@flowingcode8069]

Sorry. You are wrong. Reservation was not given because people are poor. Because even if you own land or wealth or rich, people were denied education. so reservation is ensuring proper representation from all sections of the society.

[@flowingcode8069]

Poor forward caste student didn't get a seat same reason a poor backward caste didn't get the seat. Poor upper caste person's seat was taken by rich upper caste person. And poor backward caste seat was taken by rich backward caste person. Our educational institutions promoting JEE and rich coaching institute culture is always against poor. Don't project that on reservation.

[@shakshineha]

@@flowingcode8069 times are changing. I n schools atleast in city you do not even know the caste till you fill the board exam forms. The caste system can be removed in cities now. But people just love having an unfair advantage. Maybe it should remain in villages or problematic areas but this is obsolete in the cities now.

[@KimJongUn029]

Why do you people hate us brahmins so much? Hamne kya bigada hai tum logonka? Why should we suffer something which was done by our ancestors not *US* ....

[@swarooppatil191]

Jews didn't get reservation in Germany, why us😔

[@senor2930]

Useless question. He will not answer it. He would instead gaslight you. Instead, be educated. Bear in your mind that people of his kind will always hate you just for who you are. Move ahead in life with that knowledge.

[@priyanshuvettori5179]

Now there needs to be reservation in reserved categories too Because in SC/ST only people who could afford expensive education are able to get into IITs and 90% of SC/ST are still struggling and being discriminated. How has reservation helped?

[@prakharsrivastava5653]

You are wrong reservation should be just for the people who cannot afford expensive education ews certificates ones not category wise

[@priyanshuvettori5179]

@@prakharsrivastava5653 That's not possible, bro. People from other categories want to scrap even the EWS quota. Government will never change the reservation system because more than 50% of voters/people are in OBC and a significant in SC/ST

[@cpp705]

@@priyanshuvettori5179 i have many sc/st/obc with income that are like top 5% and above in india but have reservation with fake ceritificates of income below 1 lakh those ppl with iphones , and what not flagship products want reservation and upliftment even more like bruh now even the reservation does not benefit truly depraved ppl it is a cash making machine for top elites of sc/st/obc and etc cateogory plus general cateogory is unreserved

[@HeavyHarsh]

Every known what's creamy Layer is?

[@priyanshuvettori5179]

@@HeavyHarsh creamy layer is only for OBC

[@vijaysridhar9777]

50% ..sorry, 40.5% is open to all; instead of denying opportunities to certain toiling unreserved, making false propaganda , there is a need to further efforts to give quality basic services to all those who need it , give free quality coaching to those opting for such competitive exams, hunger, thirst and homelessness has no caste!!!

[@vijaysridhar9777]

@CasteistHunter Screaming? Well those lament and cry over jobs without working hard will find it so !

[@vijaysridhar9777]

@CasteistHunter It's foolish to think education to be like Instant Noodles , it takes time, of course the so called upper caste (which include dominant OBC too) dominated the political scene due to they not being as disadvantaged like SC/ST and the weaker backward classes, but what did VP singh do in 1989 ? allotted 27% reservations to 30% of the upper caste who were against brahmins, sowed the seeds for casteism and what's the result? Instead of identifying disadvantaged families, surnames are used so that votebanks stay intact, while dalits, weaker OBCs are still harassed, to behonest affirmative policy is not limited to reservation alone, Govt and people must come together to make power structures less casteist!

[@vijaysridhar9777]

@CasteistHunter " All sc/st/obc toil even more than general but they do not have educated parents who will tell them about IIT, coaching or English medium school. " All SC/ST/OBC toil more than general ??? first of all you are proving you are all the more unaware of the fact that 100% of the india constitute general (that's why it is called general) and i do know that 10% of the 40% seats are filled by those from reserved sections, scoring meritorious marks (which means lowering marks and allocating caste based vacancies is useless per se) , There is a genuine case of coaching classes , which rather affects all except the rich, speak against coaching classes since they do not encourage creativity and sell education and is a manifestation of brutal capitalism encroaching on education which is a public good; Rich don't deserve subsidies but rich/poor must not be defined by surname

[@vijaysridhar9777]

@CasteistHunter 1)well the facts in your comment are debatable, still never mind! your opinions are subjective, it comes from the reading of those analyses that misinterpret recruitment and employment statistic for political benefits; 2) " So scream all you want on reservation on 2% of jobs and 10% of TOTAL higher education seats because as reservation is going nowhere." this shows you are casteist prey, and yes it is bound to happen, we will witness india becoming a synonym of sub-saharan poverty while neighbouring bangladesh which eliminated reservation prosper on all fields (example is very near- covid 19 economic growth , Ban registered better performance) why that 2% and 10% you can make them zero , mark my words , while US and China would be busy conquering galaxies, the political brass of you kind will be making noise for more than 100% reservation , sigh!

[@vijaysridhar9777]

@CasteistHunter that is a short sighted vision a result of paranoia developed over ages, if you still spread the stink of problems before 1947 and ask reparations beyond the justified limit , it means you have not envisaged caste less nation , not just any one from up, low , left, right class ! using govt jobs as a measure of social appeasement is like running a parallel govt for your caste. Imagine reservation based on caste Indian Army! it would have been disastrous and this country would have been balkanised much earlier! indian army model can be very much applied to any jobs ! it something to ponder about!

[@siddharthr7142]

So articulate, I was having a hard time trying to explain privilege to few NIT friends in the US. Next time this topic comes up, I am just going to share this!

[@nirajpathak99]

There's NO privilege bro. Privilege means getting admitted with lower marks. Students clear exams because they study hard, most of Indian billionaires' children cannot crack JEE. Are they opressed?

[@bogosbinted._.]

@@nirajpathak99 no they’re not oppressed rather smart and resourceful. They can afford abroad studies which are the best option when compared to an iit. Why would they choose to clear a notoriously difficult and caste based exam to get the same degree which they can get easily and in a much better position abroad. It wouldn’t make sense for them to join the most stupid rat race where you don’t even care about what you’re learning but about the result. There is a huge reason why IIT is not amongst even the top 100 universities in the world let alone top 10. Think about why ?

[@bogosbinted._.]

@@nirajpathak99 and how is it that being rich automatically equates to having no problems. The rich people as you call it do have issues which might seem bland and privileged as well. These issues are never having the love of a parent or them being too competitive, having to prove your worth to people, always being frowned upon as “oh she has everything” , being alone most of the time bcoz your parents are too busy and always being in the spotlight gives you so much pressure. These issues just because they’re different than yours doesn’t mean they are not problematic. And don’t get the notion of rich children not having to work hard. Fighting a mental battle is as tough as fighting for a seat. If you’re drowning 6 feet under the water or 2 feet you’re still drowning regardless.

[@nirajpathak99]

@@bogosbinted._. is there any way we can discuss this on some other platform?

[@bogosbinted._.]

@@nirajpathak99 I don’t have a problem with that but I would like to have this argument on here for people to read.

[@MrX-il2jt]

Dunno what your logic,, but it's such a hippocracy , criticizing Zee for not measuring meritocracy, and not giving the alternatives of it

[@nandhakumarsomanathan5528]

Not all the upper caste are rich and not all the lower caste are poor and its changing rapidly

[@shivamchaudhary9805]

No you think it chargeing rapidly but its not if we talk about whole population of different individual categories population.

[@manansharma6348]

also after independence not all general were rich and not st/sc were poor it should be based on economy of person

[@Richmode1000]

ooh really...its been just 70 years we even didnt get equal chance for 3000years ..but you guys can digest facts

[@reverbmusic8444]

reservation is not meant to make a poor person rich. It is meant to give them equal representation in various sectors.

[@reverbmusic8444]

and for poor general people there is ews quota stop crying and study for your ews seat

[@randomrandom4719]

Bhai ek kaam kar law pass karwa ki ab obc+sc+st+pwd+female+single girl child ki reservation milaake 100% ho jaye.vaise bhi 70% to abhi bhi hui hui hai, poori hi karado.Isse ye hoga ki general category male ko inn papers ke liye prepare hi nahi karna padega. To kamse kum araam se to jeeye ge, vaise bhi abhi to mar hi rhe hai.Please ye paas karwao.This is really needed, and I even after being from general category will sit with you guys in protest and activism for 100% reservation. And yeah I am being sarcastic here but I really want this 100% reservation bill to pass, please end this all. You just can't give 30% population 70% seats and leave 30%seats for 70% population. This is insane but if no one wants to take this back because of vote bank then yeah pass the 100% reservation bill. Regards - general category male

[@infinitepossibilities2614]

"Generals dominate the open category" Wow!! To mtlb abhi unse unki mehnat ki seats bhi chin lo. Km se km fukat ka to nhi khate na vo generals ye category valo ki trh. Sharam kro yarr! Pehle hi itne seats fukat ke khate ho, abhi mehnat ke seats pe nazar daloge? Merit bachana hai kuch ki nhi?

[@swarooppatil191]

Inka baas chale toh yeh 100% reservation kar sakte hai

[@Minali-lz3tj]

True 100 %.....Bro Inka bass chale toh ye 100% reservation bhi le le.....But you know what iske baat bhi ye log sirf oppression ka rona karte rahenge aur humko blame karenge har point sme 😂😂.....I have seen enough so called reserved students who talk about their oppression when they didn't face any oppression in their whole life and still after getting reservation they failed to get into the govt. college 😂😂

[@reverbmusic8444]

@@swarooppatil191 I support 100% reservation for general people for floor cleaning job in govt. sector.

[@MadhavS9045]

What about affluent people from reserved categories? Why are they getting reservations? These people just have 1 dramatic dialogue. Past mein hamare saath yeh hua woh hua. Past mein to britishers ne bhi galat kiya indians ke saath. Why do india forms relations with british then? I don't know how does your self esteem not get hurt when you get a reservation.

[@qazitasawur]

You will never be satisfied until they give you their daughters.

[@abhishekdey2354]

Nothing was more relatable than the OBC guy in IIT who got in through general.

[@mohammedabdulnaseer786]

Yeah bro 😥

[@sachithrao6353]

@@mohammedabdulnaseer786 muslim victimhood

[@xCarbonBlack]

@@sachithrao6353 Much better than Brahmin victimhood

[@sachithrao6353]

@@xCarbonBlack brahmins can't claim victimhood and this applies to muslim also.

[@shantanuranjan9947]

@@xCarbonBlack If you're letting 1% people rule over you for over 5000 years, Are you really a victim?

[@tothepoint2299]

i have a SC friend his father is in High grade jharkhand govt job .. and i am from a middle /below middle class family (General ) He have Pulsar Rs200 He have I phone 13 pro with watch and apple earbud 2 even a i pad 9 th gen .. and i use normal Realme phone and not even a cycle ..😂 he got into college with 59 number and i had to score 80+ for selection 😆

[@XGAMESTARS]

Yes bro i can feel the pain sala lawre ka system

[@sumit5636]

Yrr dekho.... Sadiyon se apke paste ne 100% liya, jiske krn aaj hamko 50% mil rha hai(voh bhi bss economically, which is not enough! We also want social equality.) Sry brother you had faced it🥲, but... Agr aap tope most posts ki bast krein to... 99% upper caste wale hi baithe milenge, or jo apka dost hai, vo 1% me aata hai. To ham 1% k piitche 99% ko ignore naa hi kre to behtar hai. Well I think you supports reservation!! Right!

[@ritiktiwari4123]

@@sumit5636 saboot dikha sumit😅

[@swarooppatil191]

@@sumit5636 kuch bhi🤣

[@swarooppatil191]

We feel ur pain🥺

[@thebham24]

what this propaganda channel will not tell you is that when you give freebie handouts, ppl tend to be complacent. that is why in open category where everybody is eligible, the GC qualify more often. Because that works on psychology of people. telling half the story doing propaganda.

[@mohamedismail6273]

Caste discrimination in iit is real .I heard several suicide in iit madras even employees

[@RojaJaneman]

U think that doesn’t happen anywhere else? Do u have the numbers??

[@vijaysridhar9777]

Statistics is understood by the way it is interpreted; if there are less women, less SC/ST/OBC category getting admitted into IITs , then identify how many are applying and why they are failing (probably answers are tough for those who want caste divide to exist) bijili sadak paani as well as education , health, houses are just an Oasis for the underprivileged- give them that and you would find more of them coming through general cutoffs

[@vijaysridhar9777]

​@CasteistHunter i appreciate your understanding of the reality but backwardness is a very tough problem to be managed through reservations , infact 50% (not EWS- i have concerns regarding its applicability) is more than enough, Judiciary - one of the most trusted institutions by people as per a recent survey, understood that certain parties want vote banks, hence resort to reserve as much as they want! Hence placed the 50%cap ; Reservations are useful only if there are conditions for the backward to study , live healthily - mind and body and are not discriminated at which needs just one thing -Moral application of mind while doing one's duty-Politicians most of them lack it, it is this majority that is creating a inequitable ecosystem rather than the people ; to a person toiling hard day and night to meet his/her needs , Hike/dip in reservation matters little! They want the Govt to at least work like them!

[@vijaysridhar9777]

@Shruti Sinha article 14 is the most molested article in indian constitution , just scrap it off, it has become obsolete now !

[@vijaysridhar9777]

@Shruti Sinha still people make misleading videos and shed crocodile tears by just looking at surnames , look at the irrationality , how can you claim you are disadvantaged just by the surname , a comprehensive evaluation is needed not mere foolish arguments like 1000 years you did this , you are not allowing us to perform religious work that were prohibited (they tell all this , when jobs are mostly secular, thats another tomfoolery)

[@vijaysridhar9777]

@Shruti Sinha have you had any issue with the system??

[@surajrshetty]

As someone born in “Casteless” upper caste Hindu family, you have really changed my perspective, thanks 🙏🏽.

[@bharata5496]

If India was Hindu Majority because of Brahmins , then the state would have had Recognised Kashmiri Pandits genocide in Independent India and Ram Mandir and all would have been so easy. But it isn't so don't peddle fake narratives This channel is peddling fake Communist narrative. Go to Sangam Talks for real history to understand all such stuff. Just read Islamic texts and Bible and compare it with Indian Texts. You will know the difference. This channel is full of Hindu Hate or Dharma hate and for that they just need to Hate Brahmins. They are just keeping you disconnected from your Civilizational History.

[@theatheist_]

what does "casteless" uppercastes hindu even mean?

[@HairyBalls2896]

@@theatheist_ I think means being privileged enough that you dont have to worry about your caste. Something that OBCS or SC/ST can't do, maybe if they are financially good which is a minority. Or being high caste but being not rich enough so you dont see much benefit from it

[@theatheist_]

@@HairyBalls2896 how can you be casteless if you are calling yourself uppercaste, he is lying.......'no caste' is not recognised in India

[@HairyBalls2896]

@@theatheist_ I don't know what exactly he's referring to but yeah there are upper caste people who feel casteless, not cuz they are, they feel that type of way cuz their financial class is either really high and are good in money, plus people have never brought up the caste distinction cuz they didn't need to. Its not because they are not actually casteless. Maybe there are communities that have issues putting themselves in the caste system distinction, maybe that's what he's talking about idk.

[@pranavamaheshwaris]

May I know who is the narrator of these videos? I have checked for any credits, but couldn't find it. Also, brilliant & informative videos, one after the other, keep going!🙌

[@IndiaInkHistory]

You can go to our website indiaink.org to find out more about the team.

[@hritizgogoi3739]

Having said that only a certain section of the lower castes and tribes are enjoying reservation benefits. It's not penetrating. There should be Non Creamy Layer concept applied in SC ST reservation too.

[@percyjacksonkc172]

In my husband's govt office most bosses are sc st or obc. More than 50% of employees r from the same category and don't know or even attempt to learn their work. The general category PPL are overloaded with work, but awards r given to others. If they refuse to do other ppls we work they r haressed by bosses. one even threatening to go to minorities commission framing false accusation of discrimination. Sick way to torture general PPL. If we had been born in our state , we too would have been under obc. Reservation r wrong n it has only helped in dividing our society further.

[@jinfin221]

Which government office would that be?

[@percyjacksonkc172]

@@jinfin221 central. i wish it could be brought to notice of rm, but it would be against code of conduct of employees.

[@nitinb9202]

Leave aside social justice, can anyone put to light where have maximum IITians gone after completing their education. None are in India. They used tax money to become eligible to migrate.

[@jinfin221]

True. They should be mandated to atleast serve india for 5 years.

[@swarooppatil191]

They are fed up

[@Anonimous12346]

​@@jinfin221no bro gov ne free meh seat nahi di ha

[@roha75]

Yet another excellent video! Busts the myth of merit very effectively! Keep up the good work.

[@saurabhtripathi2598]

First get your facts correct: General doesn't mean upper caste can only compete in this category, its open to all even open for ST/SC/OBC candidates whoes previous 4 generations have got benefits of reservation. General category is like a Mainstream, those backwards families who have already enjoyed reservation for 4 5 generations should denounce their reservation status opt in General so the people who are still deprived in their community can reap benefits of reservation. Creamy layer in ST/SC/OBCs are not allowing and helping backwards in their own community

[@deepak_sharma_z]

There are only 18% upper cast in india and we are taking 50% of the seats 🤯 if this is your argument Then join us in general quota 😅 So that you can take total profit of reservation 😌

[@generalmedicine8058]

the student who is financially weak and unfortunately belongs to general category suffers the most in this system

[@seeking-anandam]

Brilliantly made video. We need more smart youtubers like you. Subscribed

[@rjblitz5871]

Brilliantly explained. But it's worth pointing out that The Sachar Committee concluded that the conditions facing Indian Muslims was below that of Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes. Maybe do a video on that next?

[@IndiaInkHistory]

It's coming. Stay tuned!

[@SafavidAfsharid3197]

@@IndiaInkHistory how I as a brahmin didn't get that caste benefits of knowledge or capital instead still am an below 70 percent student from a lower middle class? According to you I should have the "collective caste historical resources".

[@ajeyrathod1347]

@@SafavidAfsharid3197 yes its called caste capital

[@SafavidAfsharid3197]

@@ajeyrathod1347 then why aren't my family are in upper middle class and why aren't Brahmins throughout India are contracting us or giving us money?

[@ajeyrathod1347]

@@SafavidAfsharid3197 caste capital isn't money my dear friend ...capital doesn't only consist money it mainly relations , links , know-how etc ...it doesn't help u upfront but it does a great deal in uplifting u ...links - many industries survive on this ...eg bollywood

[@pavithraselvaraj4]

No words, literally... You have spoken exactly what I was thinking. Subscribed to your channel, just because of this video. Amazing...!!! Continue the good work...

[@dipanjandey6015]

Believe me u dont even know basic things these are open seats where everyone can compete

[@janhaviverma4119]

This is excellent, friend! Love all your content. Jai Bhim!

[@abhinavtyagi2817]

A genuine question, why do ST/SC/OBC cannot crack university exam through general category? If the argument is that the general category is exclusively reserved for "upper caste", I don't see a barrier to entry via general category.

[@IndiaInkHistory]

SC/ST/OBC students regularly qualify for general category seats but are denied access to them. Read this article for a detailed explanation on the various methods by which this is done: theprint.in/opinion/neet-ug-results-have-a-loud-and-clear-message-dominant-castes-cant-continue-old-tactics/765045/

[@prakyathkumar8618]

@@IndiaInkHistory dude I am obc I got in through general merit I just didn't apply as OBC, I'm talking about law, insofar as that is concern there isn't that impediment

[@gangarajgowda3701]

@@IndiaInkHistory Dude you are running these videos with an absurd agenda. You already have an intention and only pasting the data from sources surprisingly in a crooked way to establish ur narrative as reality. I have seen all ur videos and all I see was deliberate tweaking of reality and absence of logic.

[@gangarajgowda3701]

@@prakyathkumar8618 The link that he pointed says that 80+ percentage of all the sc/st and OBC are able to cross the mark that is been used to judge the general category. It's like these. The cutoff to obtain a rant is GC : 30 Sc/st : 17 OBC : 19. But the report says even the sc/st and OBC people are scoring above 30. But he is not understanding that the GC people have scored more than 45+😂. His argument would have become valid if sc/st and OBC guys have all scored above 30 and more than what GC guys have scored 😂. This guy is another bullshit 😂. I belong to OBC and I know how it works. I do not doubt that most of the GC guys work their ass off to score not only above 30+ but also more than any other guys score.

[@prakyathkumar8618]

@@gangarajgowda3701 this comment is gold ! We need people like you to speak up

[@MadhavS9045]

If you really think that reserved people are not able to clear general cutoffs and get seats only from their quotas then we should reserve the remaining 40 percent for general. Should we?

[@nastikx_luffy]

Actually it's more than enough according to your population

[@MadhavS9045]

@@nastikx_luffy its not for us its open for all.. Only 40%.. 60% just vanishes away for us from the beginning.. I hope you understand reservation & how it works.

[@nastikx_luffy]

​@@MadhavS9045inspite of everyone eligible, only upper caste hindus are getting seats very less other religion people. Sudama kota include only general hindus (population 3-5%, People below poverty line less then 1 % , reservation 10%)

[@MadhavS9045]

@@nastikx_luffy what are you taking bro.. Obc takes a huge chunk of open seats. Ews are almost 90 to 95% of UR population.. Reservation is not totally bad.. I know other castes would not be able to compete equally with UR students. The problem is how it is implemented, affluent people are getting benefit of it and in the face of helping backwards it is now injustice with upper casts with 60% seats reserved 🤯

[@Naruto-oj8qs]

But General category is open for everyone... Any one who can score the marks of general category got that seat and his / her reserve seat will be given to that SC/ST/OBC candidate who score lower marks.... And that example of thread wearing brahmin just a weird.. Bcoz I am from OBC community and i am also competing govt exams and atleast i have not seen that thing in my life... Also in current time brahmin also not wearing thread.... I totally agree that discrimination towards SC community is true . My community is also responsible for that. But in india caste system is more complex system in the world. That's why many religion and reform couldn't make it. But i think that GE category argument not appropriate bcoz my sister get that seat through that qouta.

[@PraveenKumar-ew2hk]

Best thing I've ever seen in whole lockdown. Just got enlightened.

[@satyapriyadarshi93]

Yeah, what else can be better than you getting into IITs after scoring 12 marks in JEE. Poor kids from general category are 'privileged' because their ancestors were supposed rich people at a time when everyone in india was poor. Even if they score 200 odd marks they must be thrown out of the competition.

[@ajeyrathod1347]

@@satyapriyadarshi93 lol poor UC are privileged becuz of their caste capital not becuz they were rich in ancient times ...

[@ajeyrathod1347]

@@satyapriyadarshi93 12 and 200 such desparity ...do u have any proof or just whinning

[@satyapriyadarshi93]

@@ajeyrathod1347 yeah, my friend scored 211 in iit jee 2011, he couldn't get into IIT as the cut off was 229 for open category. It was 12 for STs.

[@nirajpathak99]

@@satyapriyadarshi93 It was 0 (or negative) for PWDs. I don't know why they even conduct the entrace? Why not admit all the people who were opressed directly. And make different college for general category purely based on merit (all other categories can compete too). And then see which one leads to more innovation

[@imnitin97]

Please keep audio volume a little higher next time

[@IndiaInkHistory]

Will definitely keep this in mind for the next video.

[@SubhashishBagchi]

General category is upper caste reservation - what kind of logic is that?? General category is non reserved category. This person seems to deluded and have extreme hate against upper caste people. There are only 18% upper cast in india and we are taking 50% of the seats, if this is your argument Then join us in general quota.

[@MadhavS9045]

Let me tell you why they can not clear general cutoffs because they know that they can get admissions with low cutoffs, they don't have to put in that much efforts.

[@GhostRealm8]

50% unreserved are open for every caste and those who are more capable is going to get it. It's not reserved for upper caste people, they dominate because they have shown their worthy by qualifying tough exam procedure.

[@EarthKingPrime]

Well researched. BUT I’d like to point out that Dr. Ambedkar himself thought of reservation as a bandage. It ISN’T medicine for a community that actively hates another community just because of name, religion etc. If reservation is meant as representation, then there must a point in time where we have balance. People always tell me that reservation is not for economic upliftment, but only fools believe that money isnt the centre of this dystopian psudotheoretical world. Social empowerment is caste capital. And caste capital is money. I believe reservation has festered into something not intended and its reach is even less than before. Reservation is the answer but i think we need to amend a lot of it. I believe in aggressive education reforms and removing the lower quota for lower castes.

[@crisvamc83]

You are telling percentage of castes in UnReserved category. What is the percentage of unreserved category out of 100??

[@sanatkumar1945]

Saala itna reservation ke baad bhi mann nahi bhara...

[@nastikx_luffy]

Sudama kota jindabad😂

[@swarooppatil191]

In logo sone la lota Dey, phir bhi inko bhikh hi mangna hai

[@senor2930]

Hamse itna jalte jo hai bhai. Tum chahe jitna bhi hardwork kar lo jeevan me, ye bhadwe bolenge tumhe tumhari caste ke wajah se hi mila. Tumhara success inha chubhta hai.

[@lalitasharma6687]

So what you think how long this “Medicine” of your is last

[@swarooppatil191]

This medicine is narcotic, there's withdrawal symptom🤣

[@bloodwargaming3662]

1000 years of discrimination and 75 years of medicine and you think it will be over soon? Iam not saying we need reservation for 1000 years but it will take time

[@prakhar__shukla]

​@@bloodwargaming3662are you 1000 years old? Or does the ancestors of savarna found a way to pass accumulated knowledge beyond death? Yours a layman argument for your lack of merit.

[@riteshner5535]

Yeh Its true that Medicine should be given to the diseased one. But it should be stopped and prevent the overdose after the course.... Just a little statement from pharmacology 🙂

[@swarooppatil191]

This Medicine is narcotic 🤣

[@jadeep82]

Simply wow. Clarifies so many misconceptions I have myself had on being part of general category 🙂. Thanks for this amazing video!!

[@jadeep82]

Having said the above I also realise that IIT is a very specific example. What about our defence services? NDA exam is relatively simpler but has no reservations or quota’s. Can you do a study on that? How is the distribution of castes in the forces? Is it completely dominated by the so called ‘general category’. India has one of the largest standing armies with no reservation system and comparatively much less corrupt than many other government agencies ? Why is that? Would be a very interesting study. 🙏

[@parthmishra1570]

It's not the case that Upper caste get more marks for admission in general category bcoz of some caste they get is bcoz of hardwork

[@nastikx_luffy]

Bcoz of coaching u mean na🥴

[@swarooppatil191]

@@nastikx_luffy they worked hard for that

[@nastikx_luffy]

@@swarooppatil191 reserved category student who didn't get coaching is absolutely unfair competition

[@priyanshuvettori5179]

Since past few years caste discrimination is again on a rise Has reservation failed ?

[@iambalakrishnan]

Lovely! So well done. Thank you for doing this

[@kaushikkalita7310]

this guy very cleverly fooled people without explaining anything properly, discrimination existed against communities in most of the country, even in america there was discrimination but they focused on brotherhood and welfare and making people one not like what ambedkar did which was divide and rule

[@masterhind2036]

Your whole argument falls flat when you think about it for more than 2 hours. And believe me, I did think about it for a solid 3 hours.The general category is open to absolutely anyone. Dalits, SC/ST, Muslims, anyone can apply through this category..yet they don't. Isn't that the main problem? Stereotypes follow the trends. In that story about the OBC in IIT, the UC fellow assumes that, because that's what usually happens. Almost nobody except UCs actually apply through General Merit(cause they don't have an alternative)..I mean why would anyone voluntarily opt for a higher cut-off score when there's an easier alternative? And we all know that the existence of a crutch, lowers performance, no matter what caste or religion that person is from. That's why reservations (in their current form) is not a good idea. One more thing you seem to be adept at, is finding out the problem that exists in our society, but not actually suggesting any solutions for them. I'll tell you what the solution is if we continue in the line of thinking you have presented in this video. The only solution to the problem that is in accordance with this video, is the barring of all UCs from educational institutions. I mean that would be poetic justice to all they have done to the LCs, but is that actually an equal society? And isn't an equal society what you ultimately desire? Or do you just want revenge? I'll tell you what a realistic solution to this problem is. Not reduction in cutoff, but only reduction in fees. The more oppressed the caste is, the lower fees they pay. GC won't have a problem with this as this already exists. What the GC have a problem with the cutoff system. Eventually, when the economy of the country gets better, this can also be removed and caste would be history. This video has carefully been constructed to pull on the viewers emotions, but none of the logic here is sensible and the narrator a jumps to a lot of correlation=causation conclusions. So ultimately, it's upto the LCs to decide what they want: Equality or Revenge?

[@gammaphoenix5893]

@CasteistHunter Because maybe they don't have Reservations and they know they have to work for their admission seats.

[@Sathvik-kt7ny]

@CasteistHunter mahatma open category means who don't have any other category to apply or obc st sc who want to apply in open category. Then general people should apply via open category only or should they not apply at all according to your pseudo anti caste activism. what a logic you pseudo anti caste guys talk always you guys want to prove that all general castes are some evils

[@BrockKaFan]

SSC में केवल UR (General) के बच्चे UR Quota के केवल 1200 सीटे ही पाते है Out of 2100 में। UR MEANS Unreserved. SC population 16% Reservation 16% उसके बाद भी UR के Seats लेकर जाते है।

[@VTVT007]

There are two punch bag communities in India 1. Muslims - Rightwing targets them 2. Brahmins - Leftwing target them This video is out n out comparable to Goebels propaganda video against Jews . I am against BJP and Modi but whenever I see what's coming from other side there is no choice left other than supporting right-wing

[@ritiktiwari4123]

to the point

[@vivekvishalsharma454]

It misses to discuss critical aspects of whether reservations have worked to achieve the intended purpose? how we measure the cost vs return for the society? Does is makes sense for a push someone who stands at 5percentile for a medical seat against 90percentile - what cost will society have to bear for giving prominence to incompetence in name for injustice done centuries ago? We have to learn to live in present and plan for future rather than blaming past for our current status. I’m for additional support to over come the so called ‘caste capital’ but that should focus on breading competence and not rewarding incompetence. Why we don’t hear any demand for additional training support for disadvantaged section to help them crack competition exam rather than giving a walkover?

[@harshitjain575]

What you fail to realize is that the SCs and OBCs taking advantage of the reservation system are the richest in their sects. The poorest in these categories lose on the benefits that are meant for their sections. In fact, the entire concept of OBC reservation is flawed. It is an idea born out of political ambitions and had nothing to do with welfare. Traditionally rich caste groups like Patels in Gujrat or Jats in Haryana demand OBC reservations. It farcical to the point of disgust. I hope the dissidents would keep the replies civil. Peace out!

[@sruthims55]

Ever heard of something called creamy layer?... The rich among the OBCs are not eligible for reservation (btw, this does not apply to SC/STs)... and regarding pressure gps demanding reservation and getting it out of electoral politics, I agree with you!

[@kundanverma4183]

Bro there is no reservations for creamy layer OBC.

[@kranthiraj667]

Say - representation

[@vijaysridhar9777]

Exactly!

[@mayankjha4741]

@@sruthims55 I don't know hoe the system works in your state or region, but in northern and western India getting OBC certificate for reservation (no matter what your father earns or how much land he owns ) is no big deal. The execution of reservation is simply bad in North Indian Colleges. When kids with latest iphone come through reservation, one has to think that either all OBC students that rich(which is definitely not true), or someone has found a loophole in the system.

[@hethshah3570]

Pls report this video as discriminatory video , it does not talk about misuse of reservations by rich people

[@ramrajkumar4]

Even if you just keep 100% Reservation for SC/ST's in College enrollment and Recruit sectors in Jobs, Still Generals would get the same like before, not because of Marks, because of Mind-washing that has been done. I saw a real video about Showing Kids which doll is a Good doll and which doll is a bad doll with Black Doll and White Doll. All of the kids showed good doll as White doll and bad doll as black doll, what is surprising is even Black kids did that. People must get out of mental Segregation and also inferiority complex. Especially with our Indians first things first, most of us fantasize for a Fair skin without knowing the Goodness of Melanin. Most of us Indians always keep thinking White people and Europeans invented a lot and we don't think that we are intelligent. When our Own Indians have these complexes still the Upper caste with these complexes still want to have caste pride is rubbish.

[@sachs8379]

you are boss India Ink, very very articulate video

[@rupeshraut1920]

Really good content. 1. I agree, today's kids from upper-caste families talk about reservation v. equality and forget about the caste capital earned generation after generation. I myself used to think that reservations are undermining the talented people, but thank you to bring the clarity. 2. Your visual and audio sometimes don't go well together, I had to go back just to listen to the audio again because the visuals didn't make sense. You would rather make an in-person shoot than an animated video. Keep up the good work.

[@SubhashishBagchi]

Why do you think so many intelligent Indian General category students are leaving Indian behind and doing great in western nations?? 88% of Indian students studying in foreign are from General category who can make through the frugal caste based reservation system of failed Indian education system. No wonder after few years my family too leave Indian and denounce our Indian citizenship and will become green card holder of USA. We believe in Merit and that is why the General category students are highly successful in all across World. Make 100% reservation because of general category student will leave India and settle outside. Indians are literally funny creature, first they got divided on basis of religion and the country portioned then they fighting because of language and now caste. Literally this country has no hope.

[@srinivasarao-j9l]

Great Video. The Real problem is correctly explained.

[@primesoul8403]

This has more bullsh*t than I expected it would be.

[@gangarajgowda3701]

Exactly my point. This guy in all his videot has fed bullshit. He only picked up the data from different sources to build his narratives. He had set up an agenda, and using that data he is just making things that would fulfill his narratives. His claim that, the upper castes already had everything being gifted from British period due to accumulated resources of past caste based occupations, bcz of which th upper castes are still being able to fill in to all open categories is bullshit. He is trying to undermine the amout of effort that people put to qualify the entrance. That for sure in present scenario hold no relation tk what ucs have had in the past with their UC based occupations.

[@swarooppatil191]

Biased hai sab

[@omkrsingh7408]

When I talk about this shit in my home my mother tells me that don't think about it whatever it is it is i Was in 6 when my older sister was in 10 I was tense about it form that time now I am in 10 and I am tense about it only thing that I want is to leave India if I became rich but I love this country 🥺

[@satwikshet9012]

I have a question are you a lower cast or something?. Because you're talking about cast system I'm asking this question.

[@sujithabese4328]

Greatest video I've watched in my life time 💙

[@Blurryface_76]

Equality feels like opression to the elites

[@vijaysridhar9777]

oppression feels like equality to the pseudo-underprivileged

[@neuralyzer2812]

Almost all fields with reservation are dominated by “oppressed" classes, because reservation is only for them, and the general/open seats are for everyone. Comparing societal discrimination to educational/job opportunities is like comparing apples and oranges - reservation in jobs and education won't change the public mindset. Discrimination in temples cannot be solved by reservation at other places, as has been evident over the past 70 years. Also, representational politics has never worked anywhere - representation is not more important than people's lives which doctors deal with. Nobody is saying reservation doesn't need to happen. The way it is implemented today is extremely flawed. It doesn't account for social and economic mobility. Someone who is economically/socially backward or forward today, might not be so in future - neither social, nor economic status is carved in stone. There are many backward classes in general category, and many forward/dominant classes in reservation - so much so that they don't count as exceptions anymore. The only reason reservation persists today is because of vote bank politics and self serving motives of a few who benefit from it. Most of the reservation benefits are availed by a few well to do families only - time and again, generation after generation. The rest never get the benefit of reservation. That leads to two things: firstly, the apparent/pseudo discrimination against the “oppressed", because they never needed to work as hard as the rest and skill themselves as much. Secondly, the real oppressed people never benefit from it. A few solutions could be: 1. Allow reservation benefit only once in lifetime, so that other people in their reservation category can benefit from it 2. Make reservations more dynamic - caste/religion/economics alone cannot be the criteria, a synthesis of all must be achieved. 3. Delink politics from reservation.

[@sidharthapatra4296]

@@neuralyzer2812 is it intentional or real that you lack basic knowledge. Or may be hiding to make the writing sensational. What do you mean by doctors risking lives? What does that mean? Every sector dominated by reserved? How is it possible when c+st+obc together have only 20-25% jobs and generals occupy 70% mostly class -1,senior class -1 and above top posts? Central universities have 5000 general category prof while sc+st+obc together are only 500. This you call dominance? After 70 years of reservation discrimination still exists. Did you expect a thousand years old disease will be gone in mere 70 years when reservation is not there to remove discrimination? And what do you mean by representation politics? A community without adequate representation perish. Do you have still doubt about this? So quick to forget what were dalits without representation before independence? And well-off reserved taking the benefits? Have you ever researched at least once about this? Just tell me how can it be possible when 60%reserved jobs are lying vacant?

[@rationalhindufromIndia]

U just can't match our intelligence even with your high population 🗿 therefore it's like you gained gold on your begging bowl like reservation 😂

[@HairyBalls2896]

@@vijaysridhar9777 xD omg bharhmins are so oppressed

[@deepakpratapgangwar583]

Now upper caste got 10 Percent EWS quota ..decade ago they used to say reservation was like dowry they wnt accept now taking it

[@unknownrealms8452]

that shows your iq

[@MsDestroy12]

Brilliant stuff!

[@SOLOMON-ALEXANDER]

Hmm😭

[@jayanta6701]

Great great video keeep making it

[@hatepirate6467]

Amazing content, one of those rare Indian channels were actual things get spoken

[@SKJagan-dh2ft]

U r absolutely wrong --- reserved obc seats of IITs or railways r never given to upper caste candidates

[@shikharshukla4852]

Because of reservation, representation is increased. So, what is the need to lower the cutoff for reserved category students? Doesn't it make harder for a general category student as compared to a reserved category student having same facilities?

[@NileshKumar-nr2vj]

I didn't understand your question.. Can you rephrase it..... From what I understand it seems that you still don't understand reservation. But let me hear a clear statement from you first then I will answer....

[@shikharshukla4852]

Let's say there are 10 seats. According to reserved category people, earlier all 10 were taken by UC. But now, 5 out of 10 are reserved. This guarantees that UC can only take atmost 5 seats. So, why is there a difference in cutoff of reserved and general category when your representation is already guaranteed? And if a general and reserved student have same facilities, then why general student has to score more than a reserved student to get the same seat in the same college, hun?

[@prashantpacific2575]

@@shikharshukla4852 A lower cutoff doesn't mean that the entire category has scored low, it means that the last student in reserved category has scored that much. There are students who score more or near about marks to that of unreserved category. Secondly, low cutoffs for reserved category is due to that fact that on an average more SC/STs students do not have adequate access to coachings, tuitions, private schools, guidance, motivational environment, social support etc. as compared upper caste students. Census, and all other surveys by govt and private agencies tells the same story , that SC/ST/OBC students are more disadvantaged. In light of this view if you analyse the cut-offs of various exams and even difference in prelims vs mains cutoffs tells a lot. So, reservation is for representation, lower cutoffs are indicative of lower access to resources required to get more marks.

[@vijaysridhar9777]

@@prashantpacific2575 so in case we need soldiers, can one recruit physically weak , poorly trained people in your army by not allowing well trained ones just to have community representation?

[@prashantpacific2575]

@@vijaysridhar9777 Firstly, your analogy is flawed. Lower marks in an exam can't be compared with inadequate physique for army. Inadequate physique can have various causes and anybody can have inadequate physique. But same is not true for social disadvantages. A Brahmin can never have same social disadvantages as a dalit. A Brahmin would never have to face what a dalit face everyday. Inadequate physique in general is an individual characteristic and not a group characteristic. A group of people with inadequate physique for army is arbitrary and will include people of all castes. This group needs no representation at all. On the other hand, a dalit is discriminated not because something is wrong with him/her individually but because by chance he/she happens to belong to a particular group. And because he/she by chance happen to belong to an oppressed group, she has lesser chance of access to better quality education, training, guidance, social support etc. Statistics abound as a testimony to that. And this is ultimately reflected into lower cutoffs of reserved category students. This clearly is a systematic discrimination. And until the group identity based systematic discrimination, exclusion, oppression exists, there would be a power imbalance in society which will allow upper castes to continue the oppression. And to balance that power imbalance, adequate representation of the oppressed community is essential at every level, in every field. It is not at all the permanent solution, the permanent solution is annihilation of the system that perpetuates those group identities which makes one discriminate the other.

[@muhammedafsalmh8867]

Simply amazing, excellent piece of work keep going brother

[@warrior8017]

Pov : tell me you are a beneficiary of reservations, without telling me that you are a beneficiary of reservations .

[@kmishra514]

IIT Madras is my dream college due to these reasons.