The Genshin Impact Situation is Sad

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@Aboodd002
@Aboodd002 5 ай бұрын
1:12 wtf are you saying
@KategariYami
@KategariYami 5 ай бұрын
Bro's got that Gen Z Brainrot cultured in.
@3vilHahaha
@3vilHahaha 5 ай бұрын
Im scared
@Sakuta3220
@Sakuta3220 5 ай бұрын
@@KategariYami Alpha*
@GdBrba
@GdBrba 5 ай бұрын
What
@XavierFerii
@XavierFerii 5 ай бұрын
i have lost my respect for this man. goodday.
@geriyuu4789
@geriyuu4789 5 ай бұрын
Just by watching the revenue charts of last month u can really see that this whole boycott thing hasnt impacted the company at all
@lolidemon3163
@lolidemon3163 5 ай бұрын
Considering the only western country in the top 20 for revenue is Chile, would u realistically think it'd do anything?
@Melio160
@Melio160 5 ай бұрын
they made a lot less than the previous month, but it was sigewinne so it was to be expected, this month with emilie wont be much better (unless natlan still comes out by the end of it)
@hiddendrifts
@hiddendrifts 5 ай бұрын
i mean, maybe it did, but like i and many others keep saying, 0.2% really isn't that much. it's a rounding error; they probably earn/lose that much revenue day to day even when it's business as usual
@0nkrul
@0nkrul 5 ай бұрын
"go f2p queen" love how they say stay f2p but still play around, twitter ppl are the dumbest one.
@carrotsyoimiyamain
@carrotsyoimiyamain 5 ай бұрын
​@@Melio160natlan comes out on august 28th
@LorraineHoonii
@LorraineHoonii 5 ай бұрын
>"Let's boycott HYV" >*Plays the game* >"Our Boycott will change the game" > Hoyoverse's revenue peaked this July People claim to be doing the right thing when they're just contradicting themselves...
@lucasayabe
@lucasayabe 5 ай бұрын
Well this is woke people in a nutshell
@thegloriousmagician9100
@thegloriousmagician9100 5 ай бұрын
I mean…me and a lot of people dropped the game. And before you talk about impact (lol title drop), I'm aiming at the point you made about us still playing the game. That spike possibly be coming from people who aren't boycotting
@LorraineHoonii
@LorraineHoonii 5 ай бұрын
@@thegloriousmagician9100 Exactly. The spike took place, meaning the boycott did nothing. The boycott had 100,000 signatures. Out of 66 million.
@ieatkids99
@ieatkids99 5 ай бұрын
​@@LorraineHoonii 100k out of 66M is basically nothing even if all of those a hundred thoysand are actually not playing the game. We dont even know if they are following what they say they are
@Melio160
@Melio160 5 ай бұрын
wdym peak in july? from what i saw it dipped (obviously sigewinne is not gonna sell)
@astraios69420
@astraios69420 5 ай бұрын
Honestly, rare paikon W take, instead of just shitting on it, he constructively critiqued it. Although another point I might add, is that the Chinese player-base speaking up is what has made HYV do changes in the past in the first place- like the Zhongli buff, or Neuv bug, its unclear as to what the means of the boycotting really are, when their entire reach is basically their own twitter following, not even taking into account, the massive amount of people even in the west who are not caught up with the drama, or are just casuals who couldn't care less
@sweetwinter4803
@sweetwinter4803 5 ай бұрын
Neuvi case is more of comsumer fraud situation, under Chinese law companies have no right to change their products after it's been purchased for months, the player were about to sue and of course hoyo would never want another lawsuit, if the nerf happened right after neuvi was released months ago (meaning they never intended for the super spin to be a feature) the players even Chinese players would cry as much as they want hoyo wouldn’t care.
@I.disagree
@I.disagree 4 ай бұрын
​@@sweetwinter4803Yeah it's not simply a West vs china situation. The neuvi drama is actually fraudulent and way more serious than skin tones. There's CN drama about "Wanderer cucking the traveler" but hoyo doesn't give a shit because it's stupid. If CN is being dumb too then they'll also be ignored
@boiledliddo
@boiledliddo 4 ай бұрын
Neuvilette nerf is an actual gameplay issue. So it was corrected right away. With a sweet 1600 gems bonus as well. on the other hand, this "ohmeged where are the melanin, rrreeeeeeeeeeee!!!" will never be taken seriously by Hoyo.
@richtofenify
@richtofenify 5 ай бұрын
Paikon explains everything in such a calm and relaxing way, he should start an ASMR channel. Anyway, if you wanna boycott a game, stop playing it.
@hibiscusandrea
@hibiscusandrea 5 ай бұрын
Running servers costs money and by playing on those servers and not buying anything, it makes them not earn
@annazhang1434
@annazhang1434 5 ай бұрын
​@@hibiscusandreathey still have sponsor, collab, merch and concert for supply of money. If you want to boycott the game its best to stop playing the game
@Charlotte_Yeji
@Charlotte_Yeji 5 ай бұрын
@@hibiscusandreathat isn’t how this works bud
@kpoptrashmultifandom5794
@kpoptrashmultifandom5794 5 ай бұрын
@@annazhang1434if u play the game and dont buy anything in game or buy genshin merch/concert or even in any other games owned by the company then its good
@Tiyac3
@Tiyac3 5 ай бұрын
Why I read paimon
@a3gh_h
@a3gh_h 5 ай бұрын
It’s twitter, idk what to expect anymore lol
@joinfortherapy6470
@joinfortherapy6470 5 ай бұрын
I think Twitter is banned in china but I can't confirm it
@FreneticPotato
@FreneticPotato 4 ай бұрын
@@joinfortherapy6470 it is but like with youtube, they probably have a government-sanctioned alternative to it.
@frishter
@frishter 4 ай бұрын
@@joinfortherapy6470 Lucky guys.
@tszyiuyiu_car
@tszyiuyiu_car 4 ай бұрын
@@joinfortherapy6470it’s not banned lol I could still use in china
@VENTlLATION
@VENTlLATION 2 ай бұрын
fr. I wouldn't be surprised if they were mad because hoyo took a single mora off of quest rewards.
@LilliMarru
@LilliMarru 5 ай бұрын
Dont get me wrong, I'd love more representation in the game. But getting cultural ambassadors (I also didnt know this was a thing 💀) for a freaking anime gacha game seems...I don't know, a lot? Like at the end of the day, its a game.
@NovaAndStar
@NovaAndStar 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, I can see why they want representation, though it likely won't happen. And to be honest, it looks like any anime-ish gacha games that exist(that I know of) don't even have dark skin characters, so I don't expect any games to have dark skin toned characters anytime soon.
@thegreatestmikialive
@thegreatestmikialive 4 ай бұрын
I wonder how they would react lol
@Youheartstella
@Youheartstella 5 ай бұрын
HELP “you guys are my skibidi toilet sigma rizz Ohio Mr beast fanem tax☺️”
@yourstxrb0ii
@yourstxrb0ii 4 ай бұрын
"got it?😡"
@Youheartstella
@Youheartstella 4 ай бұрын
@@yourstxrb0ii yessir 🫡
@analoque2412
@analoque2412 5 ай бұрын
These people don't realize, if they force "100% Representation Accuracy" then Liyue is actually far from accurate, the same as Mondstat, Inazuma, Sumeru, and Fontaine.
@sadaharuofkagura
@sadaharuofkagura 5 ай бұрын
They don't care as long as the characters are supposed to be black. That's when you can play a minority card.
@andizulfan84
@andizulfan84 4 ай бұрын
yeah for liyue change xinyan skin to white, make them shorther then characters from fontaine (because why they have the samme height like zhongli and neuvi ), all their hair should be black and maybe some kinda dark brown, and have small eyes ( well maybe not but i have small eyes sooo 😅) maybe just that 😂
@LeBornMajes
@LeBornMajes 4 ай бұрын
Mondstadt would be communist, liyue would be racist, inazuma would be nihilistic, sumeru and natlan would be tribalistic, fountaine would be fr*nch
@vel5785
@vel5785 4 ай бұрын
@LeBornMajes omg thank god you censored it i was worried you were going to say the f word 😢
@whatismyadjectiveiconfused
@whatismyadjectiveiconfused 4 ай бұрын
For example is Zhongli himself. The guy was meant to be the emperor of china yet his outfit is fontainian lol
@Comic-Bob.
@Comic-Bob. 5 ай бұрын
Guess we can say Genshin left quite the Impact on Twitt- I mean X.
@XYN3Z_EDITZ
@XYN3Z_EDITZ 5 ай бұрын
Lol
@Stickyhoneytoast11
@Stickyhoneytoast11 4 ай бұрын
Haha😂
@luftaru
@luftaru 5 ай бұрын
what annoys me most as an actual latino is how most of these "boycotters" are getting offended on our behalf because trust me 99% of latino genshin players dont care about the skin tone we're just excited for natlan yeah more dark skinned characters would be kinda cool but honestly i really couldnt care less like just say your opinion and move on theres no need for all the stupid boycott stuff (but then again its twitter and theyll get mad at literally everything)
@vainillasilvestre
@vainillasilvestre 5 ай бұрын
THIS. EXACTLY THE OFFENDED ONES ARE THE ONES THAT SHOULDNT EVEN BE OFFENDED IN OTHER PEOPLES BEHALF AND ITS JUST WEIRD I HAVENT SEEN AN ACTUAL SOUTH AMERICAN PERSON COMPLAINING ABT NOT BEING REPRESENTED, NEVER, AT ALL NOT EVEN ONCE I CANT
@Zohrah1022
@Zohrah1022 5 ай бұрын
​@@vainillasilvestreAgree. Im a Southeast Asian and a Buddhist and i LIKE- No..LOVE the Sumeru characters regardless of their skin color,I even whaled for one! The people that get "offended" for characters being white and not black enough are USUALLY white themselves and most of the time shouldn't be getting offended.
@lucasayabe
@lucasayabe 5 ай бұрын
I'm a latino too, and super agree, It becomes worse when you realize that Hoyo did represented the latin people correctly, is just that could be better executed like some skin tones a bit darker, but overall the diversity of skin colors we have is represented in the cast as we have white characters, Black character, tanned characters and light tanned characters.
@thegloriousmagician9100
@thegloriousmagician9100 5 ай бұрын
You know latinos are upset about it too right? Most of them being dark skinned. That's what I found out. Don't denounce them either/nm
@lucasayabe
@lucasayabe 5 ай бұрын
@@thegloriousmagician9100 most of them are white too, the color distribution in latinos is pretty diverse, soo this is a bad argument for either side. Most of the people upset are doing so because they're woke not because they care about this. People that really care have another type of discourse and usually understand this is just a game
@CasualAnimations-mh1ez
@CasualAnimations-mh1ez 5 ай бұрын
(firstly im gonna start this off by saying i am black myself, so coming at me saying i'm "racist" about the african representation isn't much of a defense for you) This whole controversy surrounding HoYoverse's depiction of characters in Genshin Impact's new region, Natlan, is misplaced and detracts from the true essence of the game. Critics argue that the characters, inspired by African cultures, do not have sufficiently dark skin tones. However, this focus on pixel representation overlooks the primary aspects that make Genshin Impact captivating: its gameplay and storytelling. Firstly, it is important to remember that video game characters are digital creations composed of pixels. Debates over their skin colors should not overshadow the game's narrative and mechanics, which are the core reasons players engage with Genshin Impact. The immersive world, intricate lore, and engaging combat system are what truly define the gaming experience. By fixating on the characters' appearances, we risk ignoring the rich cultural elements and creativity that HoYoverse has integrated into the game. Furthermore, altering character models to adjust skin tones is not a trivial task. It involves complex processes and meticulous work to ensure that changes do not disrupt the game's visual harmony. Demanding immediate and extensive modifications underestimates the effort required to maintain the game's high-quality graphics and animation. If critics believe it is so simple, they should attempt to replicate the process themselves. This would likely highlight the extensive resources and expertise needed for such adjustments. Lastly, boycotting the game over this issue is counterproductive. Genshin Impact has built a global community united by their love for the game's world and characters. Instead of dividing the community over visual preferences, it is more constructive to appreciate the diverse inspirations and creative liberties taken by the developers. Constructive feedback is essential, but it should not overshadow the enjoyment and artistry of the game. In conclusion, while representation is important, the current controversy over Natlan's character designs should not overshadow the fundamental elements that make Genshin Impact a beloved game. HoYoverse's focus on gameplay, story, and overall design deserves recognition and appreciation. The community should prioritize these aspects and engage in more meaningful dialogues to foster a positive and inclusive gaming environment.
@lolidemon3163
@lolidemon3163 5 ай бұрын
Thing is its far far closer to latin/south america than africa
@nombana383
@nombana383 5 ай бұрын
As an African , I really don't understand those people like really , what make me African isn't my color , it's my culture , if people think that it's my color that is important for the representation of my race then it's them who are racist
@NatsuHanichu
@NatsuHanichu 5 ай бұрын
As an African I am a bit fed up about all of this. I want to enjoy the game but then these people suddenly appear to complain about skin colors and it is even impossible argue with them.
@Frogathome
@Frogathome 5 ай бұрын
I'm not an African but I am black as well. I saw this whole race thing in twitter (or X) from the beginning natlan's trailer dropped. I thought it would eventually resolve since it's such a stupid reason to be offended over. Personally I don't mind what a character's race is as long as I like their personality. But I personally think those who got offended aren't even African and most of them are probably white people. But seriously, does it bother any African if a game character didn't have dark skin? As long as the traditions or cultures are upheld perfectly, I don't see what's there to complain. Or maybe I'm just overlooking something here...
@dilay9755
@dilay9755 5 ай бұрын
Sorry but have you seen the npcs for Natlan?… Some have box braids dancing on the beach but they are all white as a ghost, like how do you defend that???? at least make npcs have tan if they’re on vacation on the BEACH 😭 Or would be better if they haven’t put box braids and locks on white npcs it’s getting ridiculous 😭
@salasy
@salasy 5 ай бұрын
The main audience of Genshin doesn't care about this kind of stuff and I'm not talking just about the chinese playerbase, I'm pretty sure a majority of the global gacha players also don't care about this kind of stuff 100k people that signed the petition are really nothing compared to the millions of people that play the game
@iPete93
@iPete93 5 ай бұрын
The western gacha audience doesn't get that PoC in asian-developed gachas are insanely rare. At least from my experience. idk the situation in FGO, but Granblue maybe has like 5-10 characters with a darker skin tone and at least 2 of those are playing on the "gyaru" archetype so idk if that really counts. As sad as it might sound: as much as I'd enjoy the inclusion of more PoC in Genshin, I'm not particularly bothered by their absence. These "boycotters" will probably soon realize that it won't change a damn thing. If they want PoC reps in a popular gacha game, they better get to developing one themselves.
@Kekekekenn
@Kekekekenn 5 ай бұрын
Asian players don't care, and as a European, we don't care either. It's seriously 90% white Americans
@elcxz-
@elcxz- 5 ай бұрын
i am still playing genshin daily, (aside from school days), and i have no problem with the skin colors though i do understand a little where people are coming from, feel like they are overreacting a tiny bit. (as an american)
@LoveYourself-my9nz
@LoveYourself-my9nz 5 ай бұрын
Nobody cares! These people are nothing but trying to find the problem where it doesn't even exist. This cancel culture is nothing but a peak of narcissistic mentality.
@ikhsansyafriestiar793
@ikhsansyafriestiar793 5 ай бұрын
True, me and my friends(18 peoples) are still playing Genshin, we doesnt care about this Boycott sh*t... Even 1 of my friend said, "the peoples who keep rambling about boycott should unistall Genshin from their device and go make their own game as they like, Genshin is free to play, no one force them to play, it is their own ego who keep telling them that their voice are representing the majority of the players, but the truth is the majority of the players like us, doesnt even give a f*ck about them"... And I agree with my friend statement...
@Hie_Hyoumaki
@Hie_Hyoumaki 5 ай бұрын
"League players might be different from hoyo players" THIS IS WHAT I SAID LAST NIGHT Like if you think about it, western characters vs eastern characters designs have certain MAJOR differences. 1. Western designs arent afraid to explore non-human body type, non-ideal body type, old age and various skin colord like even purple, green, yellow etc. 2. Eastern designs are more focused on humanoid designs with perfect looks (see Sebastian from Kuroshitsuji), younger ages and lighter skin color (try to count how many dark skin poc vs its light skin poc). League players are basically already used to western designs. And they dont care if the chara is furry like werewolf or alien like xenomorphs, if the chara is meta and has great personalities (no slang intended), they will do so many things for this chara. Meanwhile, genshin/hoyo's biggest market are people who are used to eastern designs, so if hoyo has to pick 200k players who love dark skin vs 30mil players who love light skin with perfect body type, guess who they will choose. If you want to change hoyo, you rly need to strike the cn fans' heart first.
@Greekybo
@Greekybo 5 ай бұрын
Im not defending the twitter people, but id appreciate a character whos dark as FUCK.
@vodaz9109
@vodaz9109 5 ай бұрын
"BuT ThErE r AlReADy HiLIcHurLs. WHy R nOt u SatISfiEd???"
@Enlotherover
@Enlotherover 5 ай бұрын
Same! Ororun would've absolutely devoured with a darker skin tone. Especially since he's based off of a Nigerian diety.
@wendydreams1045
@wendydreams1045 5 ай бұрын
Dark can fuck😂
@TheTranquilMadness
@TheTranquilMadness 4 ай бұрын
@@vodaz9109 I'd laugh but some of the people in this comments section would probably say this unironically 🥲
@alunsinus_prime
@alunsinus_prime 4 ай бұрын
​@@vodaz9109And racist comments like that from real (Chinese) people should be addressed instead of some nonexistent person's skin color (Natlan characters).
@GLoLChibs
@GLoLChibs 5 ай бұрын
Even if everyone who signed the petition signed it once and was an actual person that plays, 100k signatures is 0.16% of the number of people who play. 0.16% Only a very, very, very vocal minority have a problem with this. And they aren't dedicated to their cause. If they were, they'd stop playing and stop screeching whenever others try to explain they're defeating themselves by continuing to play.
@lolidemon3163
@lolidemon3163 5 ай бұрын
And if we r talking revenue, US can easily be axed with 0 repercussions. Considering it doesn't give as much money as ppl would think
@Jailtino-p1q
@Jailtino-p1q 5 ай бұрын
0,16%? I heard everyone saying 0,03% but it's negligebel anyway. 😂
@XanderBLOB
@XanderBLOB 4 ай бұрын
yh, as seen you need at least 10-20% to get their attention. 0.2% aint gon cut it
@Catz2003
@Catz2003 5 ай бұрын
as a black female I don't really care because in anime it's also rare see black anime characters and this is an anime gatcha game so🤷🏾‍♀️I'll still play because even if they add darker skin tones in the game they'll probably fuck it up😂 it's hoyoverse
@MiniMon46
@MiniMon46 4 ай бұрын
then they shouldnt use peoples culture
@alunsinus_prime
@alunsinus_prime 4 ай бұрын
​@@MiniMon46 awful logic lol
@cldypillarr
@cldypillarr 4 ай бұрын
​@@MiniMon46 this exactly. They're just stealing it atp.
@imironiclystupid8526
@imironiclystupid8526 4 ай бұрын
​@@cldypillarr what drugs do you smoke
@cldypillarr
@cldypillarr 4 ай бұрын
@@imironiclystupid8526 the ones ur smoking
@Fryfly111
@Fryfly111 5 ай бұрын
I never really cared for skin colours for characters. But when the PYRO archon who is fire herself is whiter than the white Egypt statue from that one game it’s kinda hhh, interesting
@FreneticPotato
@FreneticPotato 4 ай бұрын
cuz she's obviously white-hot like the sun /jk
@goawayandfindsmth
@goawayandfindsmth 4 ай бұрын
It’s for majority of their people
@daydreamer825
@daydreamer825 4 ай бұрын
@@goawayandfindsmthnah only white people in the world are the europeans and i mean like germany england the rest of thenworld is not as pale
@chiliiCh
@chiliiCh 4 ай бұрын
Uhm... She's a Himeko expy. Maybe expy is not the right word, but hoyo games have this thing going on where their characters are reflections of one another from their previous games. :)
@daydreamer825
@daydreamer825 4 ай бұрын
@@chiliiCh murata himeko is murata the previous pyro archon who is just flames now (as seen in the natlan teasers) so no its not her
@ItsNdex
@ItsNdex 5 ай бұрын
1:11 thank you fellow skibbidi rizzler gyatt ohio rizzler 😊
@yukiklips
@yukiklips 5 ай бұрын
1:25 are my what now
@lobster714
@lobster714 4 ай бұрын
Good video, just two things: - Don’t show google ai or whatever as your on screen source (maybe show a dictionary website or an article instead) - Don’t gauge “general community opinion” from the twitter blue replies, at least try to scroll down and see the actual most liked opinions. Most of those people paid to be at the top of the replies, no matter the attention their reply receives.
@Kito_Hastume
@Kito_Hastume 5 ай бұрын
I personally couldn’t care less about this, I just want to play a fun game
@annie-chan9727
@annie-chan9727 5 ай бұрын
Honestly, if this was a mainstream live action show or movie based on real life events, I would understand all the boycotting. A live action is played by real people and one based on true events not showing proper reperesentation could be icky. But Genshin has a completely different reality. Even if it is inspired by some cultures, its entirely a different world altogether. Its literally not meant to represent anyone real. There are no Asians, Americans, Indians etc in Genshin. In real life certain names, colors, cultures have meanings that Genshin's world doesn't have at all, even if they have similar names or places that look similar. Inspiration does not equal representation. Hoyo has many faults but as creators of art they have every right to creative liberty. As all artists do. That's kind of the point of fiction in the first place, isn't it? Being awed and inspired from the real world and making your own little reality with a wonderful story to tell. No wonder so many of us fell in love with Teyvat. Racism and proper representation in media are complex real life issues that isn't going to be solved by boycotting a gacha game. I honestly wish people had the same energy in boycotting real life racist organizations. But as a POC, my worth doesn't hinge on being represented in an isekai. Others may agree or disagree but I'll always be against boycotting creative liberty. For those who signed the petition, I'm sure their hearts are in the right place, but they're barking up the wrong tree here.
@Acueil
@Acueil 4 ай бұрын
Most of the people who signed the petition also want more black people in Ancient Roman setting and Medieval Europe.
@Syiepherze
@Syiepherze 4 ай бұрын
@@Acueil Source?
@Acueil
@Acueil 4 ай бұрын
@@Syiepherze Easy. The person who made the petition is a part of activist group who are friends with game journalists who routinely complain about game and show with Medieval European and Japanese setting not having black people in it.
@crewmatewillthrowthesehand7600
@crewmatewillthrowthesehand7600 4 ай бұрын
@@Acueil for the latter Yasuke exists
@itto912
@itto912 5 ай бұрын
Honestly, as someone who played from the beginning til now, I've accepted the fact that Skin Tone won't be diverse so I don't care about it much, but I hope they actually add more male playable characters, from the Natlan Teaser, I think there was only 3 or 4? Kinich, Ororon, Capitano, and Xbalanque (if they do become playable). I think after Natlan, I might quit if they don't add more End Game Contents. That's the only thing I wish for Genshin, more End Game Contents to keep me from playing the Game.
@jason3114
@jason3114 5 ай бұрын
About the endgame, I think something like an infinite survival abyss type thing where you can use all your characters and get a like 5-10 primos(because it'd be too good otherwise) per floor would be really cool. A mix of abyss and IT basically but there's a limit to how many healers and shielders a you can use, and/or a limit on how much you can use them, so that characters like zhongli and kokomi aren't too OP. Maybe put in all the enemies and fully randomize it, so you can sometimes start with a boss or get bosses and small enemies on the same floor so characters like venti can be useful.
@pengtotapenguin
@pengtotapenguin 5 ай бұрын
Isnt Xbalanque a woman?
@itsme_theoneandonly1251
@itsme_theoneandonly1251 5 ай бұрын
No. He is stated to be male
@pengtotapenguin
@pengtotapenguin 5 ай бұрын
@@itsme_theoneandonly1251 oh alright
@itto912
@itto912 5 ай бұрын
@@jason3114 Yeah, and another type of End Game I could think of was the one back in Inazuma, where it seems like a Simulated Universe-type of mode, where we can choose buffs and stuff. I miss that event because that's where we got the infamous C1 Aloy lmao
@Ixy_Phoenix_Office
@Ixy_Phoenix_Office 5 ай бұрын
YAY WE ARE HIS SKIBIDI SIGMA BRAIN ROT🎉🎉🎉🎉
@Kseudonym
@Kseudonym 5 ай бұрын
I could have gone my entire life without gaining this title, I feel like part of my soul just rotted off. Continue tho.
@whatismyadjectiveiconfused
@whatismyadjectiveiconfused 4 ай бұрын
🎉🎉🎉
@Sobbing.Violently
@Sobbing.Violently 5 ай бұрын
woah new haircut
@y-vna
@y-vna 5 ай бұрын
i def agree they should be adding darker skin colors to the game, but can I just say that people calling these characters "white" is just kind of annoying. Yeah, their skin is pale, but they aren't white characters. It's just kind of odd when you're arguing for diversity when you don't even know what ethnicity the characters are from in the first place 😭
@Piromysl359
@Piromysl359 5 ай бұрын
Those 100k means absolutely nothing if you take into account that vast majority of those people either do not care or don't even know what they were signing.
@McNahidas
@McNahidas 5 ай бұрын
out of the 70+ million users, 102k signed. that’s ≈0.16% 😭
@tunmble
@tunmble 5 ай бұрын
@yowatt3279 you don't bet, YOU KNOW. I've literally seen someone go 'im gonna boycott genshin but im still gonna do my dailies'
@CommentPositionInformer
@CommentPositionInformer 5 ай бұрын
@@tunmble Eh. As long as they don't spend money in the game, all they're doing is increase maintenance costs for Hoyoverse's servers. You don't contribute at all to the game's existence if you're F2P.
@tunmble
@tunmble 5 ай бұрын
@@CommentPositionInformer yeah, but it doesn't make sense yk? like they say they're going to boycott and then they still play
@ChiIIi...
@ChiIIi... 5 ай бұрын
​@@tunmble I got one aswell that was still making daily content about genshin
@ironsnatcher
@ironsnatcher 5 ай бұрын
>check country >"United States" oh.
@ladyredblooded9742
@ladyredblooded9742 5 ай бұрын
OH..it is just usa.. let's ignore them 😂
@lolidemon3163
@lolidemon3163 5 ай бұрын
​@ladyredblooded9742 only western country that is in the top 20 is chile. So needless to say its useless
@Mujisu5102
@Mujisu5102 5 ай бұрын
All the stupid woke😂😂😂
@MashedPOTATO11194
@MashedPOTATO11194 5 ай бұрын
100,000/66Million? That’s nothing they need to touch grass and realize that Genshin is not a documentary.
@Zohrah1022
@Zohrah1022 5 ай бұрын
I understand people's desires to want more diversity of character skin color...But do they really give a shit? I tried sending them a feedback about this and..waddaya know? They completely ignored it. If that isn't telling that the company does not GIVE A FUCK about this drama. They'll push out Natlan characters ANYWAY and they know damn well it's gonna sell alright. Because remember Sumeru?
@hiddendrifts
@hiddendrifts 5 ай бұрын
>genshin is not a documentary< it's really funny bc i bet these are the same people who defend ac shadows' yasuke, even tho ac shadows explicitly states that it takes place in the "late sengoku period" of japan
@vodaz9109
@vodaz9109 5 ай бұрын
It's a documentary as far as the characters talking too much during quests and overexplaining simple things.
@wendydreams1045
@wendydreams1045 5 ай бұрын
​@@Zohrah1022jesus fuck
@ZeonplayzYt
@ZeonplayzYt 5 ай бұрын
@@hiddendrifts ac shadows has depections of actual real people and genshin is just anime
@Optimusturk
@Optimusturk 4 ай бұрын
Genshin does have a big lack of physical representation in general, around skin colour, body diversity, facial structure and hair and so on (if we only count the playable characters of course). I can understand that some of these issues aren't going to be solved due to the game's artstyle, but they can easily add more melanin to the game. It's nothing new really, but since Nathlan has some inspiration from African cultures, and especially Orolun, who in the game just has a tan skin even though he's inspired of a Nigerian deity, you gotta understand people's outrage. Though we all know Hoyoverse won't give a crap unless it's the Chinese playerbase who complains. Because while yes the Culture is never just the skin colour, it's still important to represent its people.
@nyannyan1521
@nyannyan1521 4 ай бұрын
this fanbase is full of cringe weebs, they don't understand. like reverse the situation for one minute, i.e every character in inazuma having dark skin, the same people crying about how not everything needs to be represented would be seething about the woke and how Inazuma is based on Japan, a country with mostly lighter skinned people. this fandom is cringe on twitter but it's funny how these weebs think they're not equally as whiny and easily triggered
@Optimusturk
@Optimusturk 4 ай бұрын
@@nyannyan1521 Reminds me of the recent Assassins Creed outrage tbh. But you're right, the fanbase isn't just cringe, there's so much pedophilia with the "Loli" characters (God I feel horrendous using that term), racism (I've Seen comments word for word saying "I don't like Indigenous people" when discussing about the video's topic), but also just creepy behaviour in general, like this whole drama between Scaramouche and the CN players (poor cats man, just poor them). Funnily enough I'd say it's the Dickriders that gave the game such an appaling reputation, and not the sensible people as they like to call them. But that's just my opinion 🤷 But even then it's not just the community, the game and the Company does have their share of problems, but that would be long to discuss
@nyannyan1521
@nyannyan1521 4 ай бұрын
@@Optimusturk yeah it’s just gacha fandoms. This game is basically a waifu collecting simulator. All the child characters are girls for a reason. It’s so weird. These losers who thirst over characters openly on the internet and make loli fanfiction also ruin this game. I stg the gaming community combined with the anime one are full of neckbeards or something. they love to say most players don’t care but most players aren’t online and engaging with this stuff in the first place, most probably barely play anyway since they’re casual. And I’m willing to bet most of them won’t have breakdowns over the insinuation that characters should have more melanin 😭
@Who_is_Toast
@Who_is_Toast 4 ай бұрын
It's actually fascinating how many ppl participating in this boycott still play the game and have a genshin character as their profile. By doing that, you're literally supporting the game, aka not boycotting it.
@Ilikemikespike
@Ilikemikespike 4 ай бұрын
Honestly i kinda get where the “boycotters” are coming from, i just can’t take their bad attempt at performative activism seriously.
@agentbluegaming7709
@agentbluegaming7709 4 ай бұрын
I can see both sides of the argument. On the one hand, there should be more diversity in the game, especially for the people of said cultures. On the other hand, the game takes inspiration, not adaption of cultures, which essentially means (at least in my mind) that they can do whatever they want and pick whatever they like. (Most authors/creators do this, most people just dont care or realize cuz it normally has little to do with people and race and more to do with places and story beats but even then...)
@MCHuTao69420
@MCHuTao69420 4 ай бұрын
As someone who’s played genshin for some time, i don’t mind if a character’s white or black all i care about is story , mechanics and just gameplay in general it really doesn’t bother me. The over 100,000 people that signed that petition are just being stupid. It won’t really affect Hoyoverse developers or the ceo himself because of how many people love the game already. They also won’t take any action to change a few pixels unless their chinese fanbase throws a fit and from what I’ve seen THEY DON’T GIVE A SHLT
@joyboy888
@joyboy888 5 ай бұрын
About 0.1% amount of genshin players signed the petition and in that 0.1% I am pretty sure 40-50% people dont even play the game..they are jusy on twitter to involve on anything that's trending to gain engagement and feel like they are contributing something to he world by doing that and the other 30-40% people didn't spend money on genshin..only the remaining 10% of that 0.1% playerbase of the petition may have spend some money on the game.. that's about 0.001% of playerbase and even they are still be playing the game even now. This changes absolutely nothing.. Now it hypothetically in an alternate universe hoyoverse will change the skin colour to black..then what will happen is that 1.hoyoverse will recieve serious issues and allegations from the government since they changed the product after introducing in the market 2.Almost 90% of the china playerbase will protest against it and stop playing and spending money of the game(remember that china makes more than 60-70% of the total revenue,the rest of the revenue comes from all around the world) So the overall conclusion is why tf wpuld china goverment or hoyoverse would listen to those petitions which don't even mater much.. The players who spend money dont even care about skin colour..if that were true they would have stopped playing since sumeru.. If anyone really want to boycott,then start deleting your genshin accounts. Otherwise just give up..the world doesnt reveolve around you.
@Yoshixandir
@Yoshixandir 5 ай бұрын
The boycott wasn’t even a boycott since the same people complaining either haven’t played the game or are still playing it. Doesn’t help that a recent result has shown that the hoyoverse games made more money 10% and ZZZ making the most with 96million in july. All 3 games still made a lot of money Heck their boycott isn’t even received well it’s being mocked and almost all comments are making fun on how stupid it was and hypocritical since the people who claim to be boycotting including the voice actors are still playing
@juliap5907
@juliap5907 5 ай бұрын
i really do not want to speculate but the boycott got a lot more hate after mujin's video so there is a non zero chance his viewers are now spamming boycott tweets with messages you can see now
@Schneider_forever
@Schneider_forever 4 ай бұрын
The video also apparently made things worse for some of his viewers because he didn't censor the Twitter handles and the people mentioned in the video got harassed. There was also something about his comments on Twitter where he randomly provoked people for no reason (like someone pointed out his YT comment section was wild and he insulted the user even though they never attacked him directly). Just waiting and hoping that it's a misunderstanding because Mujin has shown he doesn't like when people go _too_ far with certain topics
@lilhonni
@lilhonni 4 ай бұрын
@@Schneider_foreverhe can’t control his dumb audience attacking random people on twitter. If that is how crusty genshin players choose to spend their time that isn’t his fault.
@Schneider_forever
@Schneider_forever 4 ай бұрын
@@lilhonni I mean, his actual responses to other people in his comments. I want that to be a misunderstanding because it'll be another issue on top of everything that’s already going on
@zhongliswallet6241
@zhongliswallet6241 4 ай бұрын
Regardless of what people think or stand on. People being upset is valid and it's been a problem for a while (Sumeru) so reducing it to a twitter discussing is unfair Genshin does a great job at implementing cultures yet they fumble so hard with adding a few different skin tones in a culture that's very diverse even for a fictional game, that can understandably be upsetting because people did look foward to that in Natlan. I don't believe hoyovesre had any malicious intend but they could have done way better because I don't think they wouldn't make the mistake of having an European inspired nation being mainly represented by black, or tan skinned characters. Honestly I think more different skin colors would prevent so many characters from looking identical and gives us more options which could lead to a bigger audience. (Like what happened to pokemon)
@brightpool353
@brightpool353 5 ай бұрын
Tbh it's just sad how so many people are saying that they're boycotting and yet they're too addicted to stop playing and have an actual boycott. Edit: Also just look at Nintendo, another East Asian company who makes a LOT of money and yet has a large portion of characters in their games being people of colour. (Marina from Splatoon as well as several people in Pokémon such as Nemona, Aloe, Leon, Grant, ETC)
@meyy3667
@meyy3667 5 ай бұрын
This is just my opinion. Its good if they can put some representation but there is a big problem that you have to remember. Hyv is very passionate about releasing games. You can see it with the quality, story, VAs and characters. They put in a lot of detail with their games and this is not only limited to Genshin. But you have to remember that they are not doing this just for the cause of releasing a good game. Its also for the money. The main reason as to why the games they have been releasing have been improving is because they can see the result if they do. The quality attracts players, and in turn gives them the money they worked for. With this in mind, you have to remember there are two things they need to continue being popular and relevant. One is the revenue, and two is the players. Lets start with revenue. In July 2024, a total of $19M was made in China alone. Yes, this is lower than usual but this is also during Sigewinne patch and reruns so its not surprising that they made lower revenue than in June. For Global revenue, it was $17M. Though its only a few million behind, China is still ahead as usual than Global revenue. The difference is much more apparent on patches like Arle's or Neuvi's for example. This alone gives you enough information that China players gives higher revenue than Global players. It is no wonder Chinese players are very valued by HyV. Not only because they are also from China, but also because they are the ones who produces the most revenue. Next is playerbase. They are a game's health. The most vital part of a game. They are what makes a game popular, relevant and more. The more active players there is, the better the reputation and relevance of a game. Based on the statistics I saw, you can search it online, the top 5 countries that has the most players in Genshin are Japan, South Korea, Philippines, Russia and Taiwan (if i remember it right). Just this top 5 alone shows that majority of players are from the east, more specifically Asia. Im from Asia so I know how people here prefer lightskinned people than darkerskinned people. It sounds racists, I know but lightskinned is more preferred because it represents cleanliness. Just this information alone, you can easily think that if your in HyV position, which characters will pull in more money? Of course characters that are designed based on what majority of players like and what the players that pulls the most revenue like. It is no wonder why they designed more characters that are lightskinned. Seeing that HyV still puts in characters that are darkskinned (not really) shows that they know the concerns of players thats why they added more. But as you can see they still prioritized what the 'main' players want. What if they made it more darkskinned and in turn the 'main' players didn't liked it so it affected them? This basically shows or Genshin is saying, they would rather offend the minority of players than what majority wants because they are more important.
@coolstraw7682
@coolstraw7682 5 ай бұрын
First 🙏 also good vid my opinion on the skintone thing isnt very big i dont boycott or anything that shit wont do anything but i think just diversity on genshin would make some good characters. Dark skins can go very well in designs
@SimplyUnst4ble
@SimplyUnst4ble 5 ай бұрын
From what understand, the problem is that they're a Chinese company. Asia is strange when it comes to skintones, since they seem to place lighter and white skintones on a pedestal. But yeah - I can see your point.
@coolstraw7682
@coolstraw7682 5 ай бұрын
@@samkelly5045 yea :/
@SimplyUnst4ble
@SimplyUnst4ble 5 ай бұрын
@@samkelly5045 Yeah, it is a bit weird. But I guess that's how Asia works- idk
@jessiejalandra5219
@jessiejalandra5219 5 ай бұрын
Yeah it is as an Asian myself, many Asians don't really like black characters. They have what you call beauty standards, ex. Are you need to be white/ light brown and thin. A fat one of chubby one won't sell well same with Dark skin.
@arielmk7612
@arielmk7612 5 ай бұрын
They do care about feedbacks well to some point. But what they really overlook is whatever complaints people do on social media
@Schneider_forever
@Schneider_forever 4 ай бұрын
Hoyoverse was shown on record to have the worst player feedback attentiveness. So it's highly unlikely that they actually look at feedback regardless what the feedback is unless it's a legal issue.
@arielmk7612
@arielmk7612 4 ай бұрын
@@Schneider_forever true but people have sent feedback and received responses so to some point as I said😅. Like this color drama people have posted the response they received when they pointed that out
@e.t8677
@e.t8677 4 ай бұрын
This is not true in the slightest, considering they reacted tignari's VA. Which was known because of complaints on media. If that was the case he still would have been the VA
@e.t8677
@e.t8677 4 ай бұрын
*recasted
@Crusader_Dreams
@Crusader_Dreams Ай бұрын
8:03 That's called a survivorship bias
@Nyx_loved
@Nyx_loved 5 ай бұрын
WOOHOOO NEW PAIKON POST
@shanedoesyoutube8001
@shanedoesyoutube8001 5 ай бұрын
Paikon, another two incidents just came up Another round of CN hating wanderer in simulanka And this one is more significant that affects the livelihood of EN VAs of Genshin and beyond, the official sag aftra strike (wriothesley made a video on it)
@silly_evann
@silly_evann 5 ай бұрын
Cn try not to hate on Scaramouche/Wanderer challenge (impossible)
@Parsasuha
@Parsasuha 5 ай бұрын
​@@silly_evann they hating cuz hyv put nilou and navia with wanderer on the event😭
@silly_evann
@silly_evann 5 ай бұрын
@@Parsasuha i know its genuinely so stupid, they fr have beef with a fictional character
@Melio160
@Melio160 5 ай бұрын
hate for what??
@jay-hr4vi
@jay-hr4vi 5 ай бұрын
@@Melio160CN male fanbase get mad whenever a female is associated with a male that isnt the traveler (they cant insert themselves in the ship)
@freemelons1706
@freemelons1706 5 ай бұрын
i am all for more skin tone representation and quite honestly, i do find it a bit sad and scummy that there is so little variety of it. that being said the boycott isn't working and they're not trying to make it work effectively. and thats the problem, aside from also attacking people who just want to play the game
@McNahidas
@McNahidas 5 ай бұрын
it’s not a boycott, they’re just “defunding” the game, and even then they’re failing. And then they still play 💀
@thegloriousmagician9100
@thegloriousmagician9100 5 ай бұрын
I mean, I deleted the game so…
@TnD_BigJax
@TnD_BigJax 5 ай бұрын
​@@thegloriousmagician9100cool, I just renewed my Welkin Newton's Third Law, bud
@havidikevidi
@havidikevidi 5 ай бұрын
@@thegloriousmagician9100 And it did absolutely nothing, congrats
@joyboy888
@joyboy888 5 ай бұрын
​@@thegloriousmagician9100don't worry I just renewed welkin for 3 months for natlan characters
@thegloriousmagician9100
@thegloriousmagician9100 5 ай бұрын
@@TnD_BigJaxuh..ok. I'm confused, did you say this to burst my bubble? If so, I don't think it worked.
@ilonasasmonaite9078
@ilonasasmonaite9078 5 ай бұрын
dude the fact they are upset over apropriation in a chinese company that has downloads from mainly in asia then actual real world apropriation is wild, i get its a big game but its a game, focus on real life /nbr
@kaas2597
@kaas2597 5 ай бұрын
I don't go on Social platforms, so my only way of getting the news is from creators on youtube covering it. Thank you Paikon. Do what you like, after all, this is your chanel.
@Grapejuicegangsta
@Grapejuicegangsta 4 ай бұрын
I love ur drama videos so much tbh you should make like an iceberg of hoyoverse controversies
@stray_editori
@stray_editori 4 ай бұрын
What I find so frustrating about the reception of these sort of actions is the destructive energy of the responses. People will say "it's just a game, shut up" or "if you don't like it, stop playing" - but by that same logic, why aren't THEY just blocking the tags or accounts and moving on? They are doing the same thing and I find it difficult to believe in any good faith critic from these sorts of people. It's also notably almost always blue-check-mark people which... make of that what you will, but more often than not imo the blue-checkmark people contribute no constructive input to the post and yet they are placed at the top of replies. Plus, it's not like there is many games like Genshin, so it's not really plausible to say "then play a game that does it better" - because at least for me I can only think of like, Wuthering Waves, which also doesn't have much skin tone diversity from what I've seen. It's definitely difficult because I think a lot of people who want Genshin to have a more diverse cast already enjoy the game - so it's like, an improvement to what we already have. And it's tough to make that sort of opinion heard in capitalism since something doesn't necessarily have to be "improve" to sell. If that makes sense? I'm probably biased towards the cause because aside from culture reasons, I also just personally think Genshin is robbing itself of so many design possibilities. Like the new guy from Natlan that has glowing face marks - it's cool, but barely visible. You know how it could be more visible? If he had darker skin. (just using him as an example, it doesn't have to be him specifically) And of course people aren't just their skin color, but especially with the context and history of racism it's just harder to trust in any genuine artistic reasons for excluding them yknow- But alas, until further notice mods will have to suffice...
@theskywingartist
@theskywingartist 5 ай бұрын
While I’m upset at the lack of variety in skin tone, I’m also just a casual player who’s here for lore of the game. I’ve also made up in my mind that Tyvat is not the real world. It is a fantasy one- so who knows what genetic makeup and evolution it takes there to get certain skin tones. Hoyo is a Chinese company, and it’s a miracle we even see subtly different skin tones. I will once again say this: I wish we had more, but unless a vast majority of the *Chinese* audience complains about the lack of skin tone variety, we most likely aren’t gonna get any changes.
@GLoLChibs
@GLoLChibs 5 ай бұрын
What was your first clue Teyvat isn't the real world?
@lolidemon3163
@lolidemon3163 5 ай бұрын
​@GLoLChibs i know my first hint was the flying in beginning
@zatyadi6213
@zatyadi6213 5 ай бұрын
5:06 It really isn't (ironically) the sales of the skins really depends on the look of the characters, (Like with Ahri and lux)
@Axterix13
@Axterix13 5 ай бұрын
Yes, but also no. Character power has a big impact on overall sales. Sure, we all have characters that we pick for "waifu/husbando over meta" reasons, but, generally speaking, that's a subset of our characters. For most, power matter as well. So a powerful character will have more people owning and using said character, and consequently, greater costume sales, all else being equal. Or, to put it another way, if they were to sell a Zhongli and a Cyno skin, Zhongli's is going to sell more. Of course, if they did Zhongli and Furina, Furina's would likely crush Zhongli's.
@zatyadi6213
@zatyadi6213 5 ай бұрын
@@Axterix13 That's the thing, even though there's obviously characters more powerful than others, the meta changes really fast each patch (Not like genshin)
@lxlYukilxl
@lxlYukilxl 5 ай бұрын
@@Axterix13 bias also has a role, if they released skins for yanfei (example) and wanderer, yanfei will sell waaay more cause many chinese players (deranged ones really) hate wanderer to the core
@phuonguyen4732
@phuonguyen4732 5 ай бұрын
@@lxlYukilxl Wanderer is still a popular character, I don't think Yanfei is more popular than him
@lxlYukilxl
@lxlYukilxl 5 ай бұрын
@@phuonguyen4732 I meant in china where hoyo mostly caters to, ofc in the west wanderer is way more popular but in china, many hate him for stupid reasons
@ABNORMAL_MATHEMATICS
@ABNORMAL_MATHEMATICS 5 ай бұрын
In my opinion, even if people start a new way of trying to change the characters in Natlan it's probably not gonna happen since Hoyoverse has already made models, and don't take my word on it since I don't make game models, but it must've taken money and time to make the characters models so changing them that far into the update won't be that smart. While I agree that Hoyoverse should respect and represent the real life cultures and people in Natlan, it just isn't practical now to keep on pushing since it seems like they won't budge or change much in 5.0.
@lolidemon3163
@lolidemon3163 5 ай бұрын
Wouldn't surprise me if the ppl complaining are the ppl who blackwashes charas like xing
@귀엽고푹신한토끼
@귀엽고푹신한토끼 4 ай бұрын
⁠@@lolidemon3163whitewashing is bad but blackwashing doesn’t exist because of diversity 🤨
@maya993
@maya993 4 ай бұрын
Thank you Paikon we love your gyatt too.
@Enlotherover
@Enlotherover 5 ай бұрын
I see alot of people say people don't care, but people don't even know it's happening. So many genshin players are casual to the point they dont even know genshin content creaters exist, have never looked at a guide, or hardly on twitter. It's near impossible to reach everyone properly.
@sriyasreejith4106
@sriyasreejith4106 5 ай бұрын
cause thats how normal people should be , get a life outside the game unlike tweetards
@TheTranquilMadness
@TheTranquilMadness 4 ай бұрын
@bassattack799 yeah agreed, but as you've seen people will just attack your very reasonable conclusion and say "well no one SHOULD care" like that's profound or something lol
@Enlotherover
@Enlotherover 4 ай бұрын
@@TheTranquilMadness i know right?? Lol. Like that was not my point but alright 💀
@AubreyfromOm0ri
@AubreyfromOm0ri 5 ай бұрын
1:11 THANK YOU POOKIE BEAR 🥰
@XEVOIDS
@XEVOIDS 5 ай бұрын
Ngl I didn’t even know about the boycott because my twitter feed is basically everything but not Genshin related
@Rage-_-Quit
@Rage-_-Quit Ай бұрын
Mice in a skinner box threatening to boycott the lever has to be one of the funniest things this year
@astralhero1544
@astralhero1544 5 ай бұрын
Its honestly pretty sad, I was part of the boycott too and I havent touched Genshin since it started following the release of Natlan's teaser. That said, anyone with the mind to think would know that an effort like this with how it is just doesnt work unless certain factors were involved such as being part of the CN community, actually doing something that affects their incoming revenue or getting the chinese government involved. Change doesnt happen immediately, but if Sumeru was anything to go off of, doing something like this even in the right way would do nothing because even after a year nothing has changed, Hoyoverse will never listen to you for your nitpicks because you're one small fish in their world tank and one part of the tank is better taken care of anyways. I loved this game, I really did and its because I did that I wanted to see how far they'd take the idea of showing a world where there are many different regions in culture, geography, and most importantly people so you can bet that with a smile for the first minute of the teaser it just faded the moment I saw all the characters and how they didnt really look all that different from characters I had seen before in other regions within the game though what should I have expected...its Mihoyo. "Then if you dislike it so much then dont play the game" "Uninstall it since nothing is to your liking" "I dont see any issue with these characters, you're just picky" "Nobody likes dark-skinned characters anyways, stop complaining and go touch grass" Hearing all of that is uh...something, but is it wrong to have at least wondered about how cool, interesting, or even amazing it could be if all characters had more distinction in tone along with their clothes and features put together? This isnt even just about Natlan, Im talking about every region with this one. Dont get me wrong, I love majority of the characters as they are, but there's no denying that many could have looked more interesting given the opportunity for changes and I have seen many people make cooler renditions and edits of characters that even I wish was real. Voice actors, content creators have all voiced their opinions, on these characters with how they look, but seeing how they are now...its over..the boycott wouldnt have succeeded the moment the characters were shown because that is what they will look like from that point. 100,000 signatures ay, sure to make an impact when we are not even the target audience for the company we want to hear and see our thoughts and concerns. With how the boycott went, some individuals that were caught changing up made the entirety of those participating look like the biggest fools on the planet, and Im lumped in with them despite me not touching that game since this all happened, its frustrating. It was foolish to think things could change with them or even at all. Skin Tones is one thing. But quality of life changes, storytelling issues, endgame problems, and reward distribution is another and Hoyo also doesnt budge on that either which is why many jumped ship. I may sound like a child complaining about stuff that doesnt matter compared to real world problems, but as a right with anything you care about enough to point out the flaws in things you dislike I too will do the same, real or not. The boycott idea was stupid and unreasonable due to how many couldnt let go and many that contradicted themselves, that much is true. That said, it is undeniable that anyone and everyone is within their right to voice out and say what they dont like, we just gotta use our heads to see what we can affect and what we cant. "Wake up to reality", yes, yes I have.
@leighlines_o7
@leighlines_o7 5 ай бұрын
💯
@Jackal43
@Jackal43 5 ай бұрын
There many games out there that have these. Feel free to try them instead
@astralhero1544
@astralhero1544 5 ай бұрын
@@Jackal43 I will mate, if you could I'd love it if you recommended me some good ones
@itsme_theoneandonly1251
@itsme_theoneandonly1251 5 ай бұрын
​@@astralhero1544Have you seen Horizon Zero Dawn and Forbidden West on ps4/ps5 and PC It's a nice open world story game where Aloy is actually be very good (unlike that unplayable version that genshin got) and has great racial diversity and openly LGBTQ characters. It's in realistic style tough and not the anime-like style 🤔
@Unbrauchbar
@Unbrauchbar 5 ай бұрын
Personally I find this situation a bit funny. Why people only want particular skin colors in specific regions, every character in Fontaine is white as paper and no one has give a f... That Genshin is not good in representing "correct" skin colors should not be a surprise. Look at Inazuma or Liyue, you think east Asia peoples are all white? There are also many with tanned skin and again no one cares I just wish there was a better distribution overall, in game but also in the criticism
@starknight1244
@starknight1244 5 ай бұрын
People have the energy all this, while there is a very simple and a free way to do this, People UNINSTALL THE GAME, simple, cause most of them are unfortunately don't have the self control to not spend in game and take this boycott seriously. And voice actors who are also part of boycotting, i wish you GL.
@garthashneirlagansua3063
@garthashneirlagansua3063 5 ай бұрын
If a boycott, started by a chinese community, im sure, it will succeed. For preference, the neuvillete nerf incident.
@かんちょう-q9p
@かんちょう-q9p 5 ай бұрын
I mean, the Neuvi nerf was a real issue and a big blunder by Hoyo
@aiyanahamilton8023
@aiyanahamilton8023 5 ай бұрын
Ur right, when ppl were complaining about zhongli or when ppl were making fun of yunjin and gaming everyone jump to their defense calling ppl racist and whatever but when it’s time to talk about genshin colorism problem the same energy isn’t there I’ve never seen no one said it’s just a game why do we care about the bullying yunjin got for her cultural singing.
@meyy3667
@meyy3667 5 ай бұрын
This is what I keep saying. The main problem with this is, chinese players doesn't care. I have seen people saying to me that CN are what leading the boycott, which is clearly false. Yes, there are CN players who are voicing their concerns about it but if you go to Bilibili which is literally the KZbin in CN, 90% of them dont care.
@かんちょう-q9p
@かんちょう-q9p 5 ай бұрын
@@aiyanahamilton8023 Because Yunjin sing is real culture, I don't think skin color is part of culture.
@joyboy888
@joyboy888 5 ай бұрын
​@@aiyanahamilton8023if you are thinking that skin colour represents culture then you are the one who's being racist
@g73dz
@g73dz 5 ай бұрын
Cool now cant wait for the anniversary post .
@RealLwart_1
@RealLwart_1 5 ай бұрын
Thank you paikon we all say in unison
@Hollowgenshin619
@Hollowgenshin619 5 ай бұрын
The fact the whole lantern rite had more going on with that drama then this dead ass one, says alot bout where's people priorities stand. And as much as the people convincing themselves they are making change or a difference, playing the game you claim is racist and going F2P mean nothing. No matter how you wanna spin the narrative, people aren't going to stop playing cause a small part of the community are crying over skin color, if its that big of an issue, stop playing, stop voicing and stop making content on the game if it really bothers you. But like usual, they will duck their heads when the "Drama" amounts to nothing the VA's pretend they didn't tweet and support this nonsense and the CC's go on making content of Genshin. All it ever is with some is this loom and gloom and that Genshin is going down hill all this garbage. When we hit, Tower Of Fate levels of decline, then MAYBE ill believe you, till then it's just empty nonsense.
@protea6103
@protea6103 5 ай бұрын
My friend is in the thumbnail nice
@genshiner_
@genshiner_ 4 ай бұрын
Serious paikon isnt something i thought i needed
@daya.a1329
@daya.a1329 4 ай бұрын
My honest option I think everyone’s looking at this situation all backwards, esp the people on twitter. Hoyoverse most likely won’t change because let’s be real it’s a million dollar company and due to them being that high into the game they can get away with gentrifying their characters and ignoring their fan base because no matter how many people say they’re boycotting it’s still a global game and the odds of them actually listening is little to none because people are going to play regardless. And being completely honest I don’t have that much of a problem with the lack of rep it’s just the usage of real life tribes, deities and other things that fall into those categories, if they’re going to use it at least have a little rep to go along with the content. Besides it’s not like they can’t because 60% enemies in sumeru are darker skinned. And everyone calling the characters “white” I think we can all agree white people are waaaay darker than genshin characters.
@BobaGun
@BobaGun 4 ай бұрын
The idea for still playing the game during the boycott is that if people are playing but not spending then they would lose money on the servers but i dont think anyone has run the numbers on that. Thats the idea of it though. And honestly its so frustrating seeing people dedicate so much energy to mocking this boycott. Genshin advertises and *supposedly* caters to a worldwide audience. The names and symbolism in character design are from specific cultures, and yet the characters look nothing like the people in those cultures. I saw someone else describe it perfectly saying that (paraphrasing here) hoyverse IS doing their research to design these characters, looking at the culture and saying that it is beautiful/interesting enough for their game yet looking at the people of the culture and deciding that they are not. People are also theorizing that it is ONLY the higher ups at hoyo doing this. There have been leaks of previous character designs such as wriothesly's who had much darker skin before being officially released and just analysing the colour palates of the new characters, which is leading people to believe the design team IS listening to us and IS working on inclusive character designs but the designs are getting white washed at the final stage of production. Also just my personal two cents I'm tired of it looking monochromatic (sorry if thats not the right word). Genshin is a fantasy game yes but a fantasy game that people play to 'replace' the real world for a bit, and when i think of humans i think of a bunch of individuals who all look completely unique, plus i have never heard of a person not be in love with a character that they see themselves in. I dont understand the backlash for perfectly reasonable complaints. Truly at the end of the day, Hoyoverse adding diversity can do nothing but good. Legitimately. They already have the gameplay, story, mechanics, cultural inspiration and pretty much every other aspect of character design down. They are capable of simply adding melanin.
@TheTranquilMadness
@TheTranquilMadness 4 ай бұрын
Thank you, it's crazy that I had to scroll so far to find the right take!
@aesraa800
@aesraa800 5 ай бұрын
honestly, i suggest just actually leave the game if it’s that bad. i personally have been slowly losing interest and even missing dailies or sleeping on my resin even tho i never expected to become like this i was obsessed with the game but they’ve been making many questionable decisions in my opinion that it’s been making me enjoy the game less. if you truly think they’re that bad and nth is changing then they clearly don’t deserve your support so just drop the game there’s plenty of fishes in the sea anyway there’s always gonna be better options out there for you if you keep spending time or money on it then you’re not getting anywhere
@ivekween
@ivekween 5 ай бұрын
1:12 ❤
@Furina4ever-i3i
@Furina4ever-i3i 5 ай бұрын
It aint sad, first of all people who "boycott" still play game if your gonna boycott game why play it, they say there addicted 2nd some people think going f2p while "boycotting" makes sure they don't earn money they still earn money and 3rd Every single time all the boycotts failed because people kept playing and 90% of the Chinese players that play have said they "blacks are a irrupting to look at" n-💀
@EvrenSağdıç
@EvrenSağdıç 5 ай бұрын
They could never make me hate you paikon
@truekampang6709
@truekampang6709 5 ай бұрын
Hoyo will win in law court thousands times over. These people are just wasting their time. Aventurine, the guy who started the petition, is not even a genshin impact gamer. He's just an activist grabbing opportunity in the drama.
@haruhihirano2633
@haruhihirano2633 5 ай бұрын
I don't mind you doing this kind of content but I'd love to see you do 4 yanfeis or even 4 kaeyas n 4 xingqius during when they released their new skins
@Rezo-cy3ve
@Rezo-cy3ve 5 ай бұрын
Eh ill just wait till modders make the characters look the way i want hoyo will never.
@Kasasim
@Kasasim 5 ай бұрын
Honestly I don't think hoyo is going to anything unless the Chinese community speaks up (which I highly doubt because I'm pretty sure they don't even know what's going on in the global community) but The Chinese community is obvi the favorite child of hoyo so they don't really care unless the Chinese community is upset
@Frogathome
@Frogathome 5 ай бұрын
The more I see twitter drama about genshin the more I'm convinced these people have no life...
@hastenggg
@hastenggg 5 ай бұрын
Idk what anyone else says, but i really enjoy you talking about these things since i dont focus much on the community much
@cediedeguzman7791
@cediedeguzman7791 4 ай бұрын
4 emilies whennn
@graycatii985
@graycatii985 4 ай бұрын
I've been playing since 1.2 and it really breaks my heart to see those characters being considered "diverse" by hoyoverse. Their supposed goal was to include people and places from all over the world but only managed to do one of them right. One thing I love is seeing all types of people from all places living together, each with their own differences whether it's in real life or in fiction. Whether it's Natlan or Sumeru, places like these are all ready underrepresented in media, it really would've done a lot for them if they actually appealed to EVERYONE, learned from what the community was saying, and not just use literal gray when "attempting" to make darker skin characters.
@andrinaleong4079
@andrinaleong4079 4 ай бұрын
For the previous region, the banners in the last patch of a region were re-runs. This time Emilie appears when players are saving for Natlan, what do you expect ?
@BJGAMES7110
@BJGAMES7110 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great vid
@Natzlie
@Natzlie 4 ай бұрын
Honestly all the points you said were really valid. with company values and the skin sales. personally i dont think that this boycott will work cause genshin has over 60 million players and i dont think 100 hundred thousand people are gonna do alot especially if the people arent actually doing other things like stop playing genshin and their other games and its just a small petition. thats like comparing a pencil to a computer. both do the same thing but have different values. to actually make a change you have to stop playing and not just sign a forum I personally dont care about this whole drama. like i care but its not a big deal in my mind. i mainly play for lore and seeing big pp damage and i think thats the same thing for alot of other people too. people play for fun and not for the culture. you can play for culture im just saying most people probably dont pay alot of attention to culture especially since the game doesn't bring it up a lot and its mainly seen in clothing and other things.
@Aizenlee-ho4dl
@Aizenlee-ho4dl 4 ай бұрын
3:23 yes this is true. Your average chinese person does not and will not openly hate on darker skin people/characters. That is not what they are angry about with this boycott as it may seem if you look at the same 7 recycled comments on twitter. What they ARE angry about is the political correctness in saying "this skin color is not right for this character". They aren't against dark skinned characters, they are against changing a characters skin color because you think it isn't "appropriate" or "to be more diverse" 🤷‍♀
@isabellascafe4648
@isabellascafe4648 4 ай бұрын
I think there’s also the issue of cultural differences, as a Latino, I don’t really equate representation as exclusively skin color, when I look for representation I look at folklore, music, clothing, cuisine, do I wish Genshin represented the variety of skin colors from the cultures they get inspired from? Yeah, do I like how some people making an argument are completely disregarding the other amazing, carefully crafted representation aspects of Natlan? No, I personally don’t think the genshin fandom is mature enough to discuss an issue as big as colorism Also, I 100% believe the result of the character designs is corporate meddling, im someone who aspires to be a character designer, the Natlan desings have some color clash issues, main example is Kinich and Kachina, their markings just, don’t work at all with how light their skin it is, is very well known that you have to make a character design darker than you intended to, because in the end, the executives are the ones who make the revisions, and most of the time they ask you to lighten the skin color, the character designers clearly research the cultures they are taking from, I could go on and on about the inspirations about Kinich or Citlali, in my opinion that’s what representation means to me, using the culture to enrich your world and characters
@VonTachyon
@VonTachyon 5 ай бұрын
I'm not going to boycott the game. It's a fictional game, with fictional characters. Hoyo gets to decide if they represent races the way people want them to or not, and they don't have to if they don't want to. Also, I genuinely would not be surprised if the majority of the people complaining about representation are white folks who are not even the people that are allegedly supposed to be represented. And if so, then that's just sad. Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see the Natlan characters be colored as well, but I'm not going to boycott the game over this stupid drama. Also, Paikon, please stop getting into this kind of drama, this isn't what I subscribed for.
@bedosworld4327
@bedosworld4327 5 ай бұрын
If we have did it properly, would you think they will listen to us in pain they kind of made it clear that they care about their Chinese players more than us global players so I’m not sure like yeah they might lose that money but to me I’m not sure how the company works so y’all can explain it in the comments.
@bedosworld4327
@bedosworld4327 5 ай бұрын
Oh yeah, remember to be respectful in the comments to each other I have seen multiple cases of people acting mean to each other so I don’t wanna see that in mind and know that I can’t control it but at least be nice about it. y’all can disagree with each other but don’t make fun of each other.
@joshuanoneyobuisness6675
@joshuanoneyobuisness6675 5 ай бұрын
@@bedosworld4327 Realistically 100 thousand signatures is actually roughly less than 1 percent of the overall genshin playerbase and in reality not that many people are actually "boycotting the game" so even if all 100 thousand of these players quit the game I don't think anything would have happened, also keep in mind that genshin is a gacha game that makes its money entirely on the characters which means that every single character has an immense amount of work put in to them to ensure that they make money, and as a lot of people will say, genshin doesnt actually make that much money from america, and nearly all of this controversy is coming from the american players
@bedosworld4327
@bedosworld4327 5 ай бұрын
@@joshuanoneyobuisness6675 Thanks!
@lolidemon3163
@lolidemon3163 5 ай бұрын
​@bedosworld4327 not to mention. Only western country that can even be close to having a voice is Chile. Considering its the only western country in the top 20 for revenue
@bedosworld4327
@bedosworld4327 5 ай бұрын
@@lolidemon3163 Thanks I don’t know how these types of stuff works so thank you for the information!
@Parkoo07
@Parkoo07 5 ай бұрын
1:12 bro wth? I had to spit out my water after hearing that shit... and paikon not to be rude but you kinda look like king oyster mushroom with the new haircut 💀
@rubby_happyberry
@rubby_happyberry 4 ай бұрын
PAIKON! I HAVE THE BEST VIDEO IDEA! Defeat all genshin bosses with the original team of genshin (Lisa, kaeya, Amber, traveler) in coop!
@hiddendrifts
@hiddendrifts 5 ай бұрын
3:09 tbf these are probably the types who color code their notebooks and make them look all pretty and stuff... 7:27 i think it literally is just that simple; people lost interest. it's like asmongold says, people on the internet get recreationally mad. they don't really care, they just want something to get mad about before they move on and get mad about smth else 8:41 it only affects the perceived value, which doesn't have monetary value. hoyo is not publicly traded so their stock price wouldn't be affected
@blackbun130
@blackbun130 4 ай бұрын
Oh wow 100,000 signatures strong. A whopping 0.1% of the 100 million players on mobile alone. They are are making waves! Hoyo should he shaking in their boots
@cye7855
@cye7855 5 ай бұрын
Ive been a 1.5 player and I just like watching drama in the sidelines, honestly I’m on a neutral side of everything since of course I understand everyone’s POV’s and their liking and non likings to such things. Tho it could be good to show culture appreciation every here and there since the regions are inspired by irl places in the world, is not our saying to change hyv mind if they won’t do anything about it seeing how they don’t care about feedback from other places people play from except the Chinese fandom lol. At the end of the day this is some fictional game, hyv could still be thriving even in they loose a few million or thousands. Like I said before, I’m an 1.5 player and I love this game so much since I’ve played it for like 3 years now and fell in love with it as soon as I started playing it. At this point people be doing too much, is not like I won’t mock the people wanting some changes in the game or anything but it’s getting quite annoyed. I won’t complain about their choices, but I will complain about in game rewards cuz c’mon I’ve been literally playing this for 3 years as a free to play and omg I could use more in game rewards 😭😭🙏🏻. Anyways, that’s my thinking in all of this. (I’m sending no hate to anyone.)
@awha1683
@awha1683 5 ай бұрын
Genshin kinda going downhill and it makes me so sad
@Melio160
@Melio160 5 ай бұрын
the thing really going downhill is genshin community
@lolidemon3163
@lolidemon3163 5 ай бұрын
Genshin is going uphill
@Kekekekenn
@Kekekekenn 5 ай бұрын
Genshin itself is fine, the community is just as shit as always tho. Get out the community and the game is suddenly more fun
@Risanggita
@Risanggita 4 ай бұрын
Just wait for 5.0 and it's going uphill smh
@jameslibero3363
@jameslibero3363 5 ай бұрын
I get about wanting more representation, but honestly I just couldn't give af at this point, the company is never going to listen and they'll keep the changes limited to the Chinese player base.
@urlocalimu
@urlocalimu 5 ай бұрын
everything is literally falling apart virtually and in reality. is there anything good happening in the world right now?
@Jonyee04
@Jonyee04 5 ай бұрын
for me either way i don't care about any of this bull*hit i will play the same way as i always did regardless of any character aspects, of course i still care but i wouldn't go this far since the story will continue playing the same as before with or without changes in the character design, but of course just to be very clear, i have no problem at all and this is my way of playing the game, as a normal chill player would do to begin with. Let's see where all of this will lead to, probably nowhere but we'll see
@Balbaneth
@Balbaneth 4 ай бұрын
DEI Ambassadors must be beloved in the gaming industry lol.
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