The Girlfriend - WHY Is This Episode So HATED?

[@draventhemystic6996]

On a different note, why does Jamie look like she'd fit in as a villager in Animal Crossing?

[@PxndaCakes]

:o

[@ryanlachance9862]

Lmao

[@kn-jt9dj]

I can't tell if that's a rare insult or a rare compliment xD

[@Cupcake_Royale]

Omg I can't unsee that 😂😭

[@dustinmalpass]

I was thinking the same thing

[@casperwashere]

Designwise, I really like Jamie. She looks like a vinyl figure.

[@ocelots118]

She kinda reminds me of Porky/Pokey

[@Mochi_Kiti]

She does look like a vinyl figure now that I look closer

[@skylarthompson299]

She is butch lol.

[@nl5620]

I never thought of that, but you're SO right!

[@spongy7426]

@@ocelots118 DUN DUN DUN DUNU DUN DUN DOO DOODOO DOO DOO DOO DOO DOO DOO

[@AverageEggmonEnthusiast]

When I first saw this episode I was a kid. I recognized “hey she’s abusive towards Darwin, this is a red flag relationship. I shouldn’t do this.” Kids aren’t stupid. I don’t think the episode is problematic. I just don’t think it’s very funny so I usually skip it.

[@shyasiaearth9654]

Okay but 4-6 year olds might not recognize this

[@Lun4rS0ulz_]

@@shyasiaearth9654 Most 4-6 year olds wouldn't be watching TAWOG.

[@shyasiaearth9654]

RadiationGamer0911 it’s a kids show…

[@AverageEggmonEnthusiast]

Shy'Asia Earth its rated 10 and up I think

[@bunniesarecutep2494]

Shy'Asia Earth it’s for about 10 and up and supervisors should be watching with you if you’re too young to understand.

[@Camkitsune]

The thesis of this episode of Gumball, as best I can tell: "Don't stay in toxic relationships, but try to understand where the other party is coming from before you act in a way you might regret." This is _incredibly good_ advice. Darwin isn't even shown as having the 'right' way to deal with the situation; had Gumball not intervened Jamie might have kept going. _This_ can be read as "If you're in an abusive relationship and you don't know how to resolve the issue, seek outside assistance," which is also good advice. And of course all of this is ignoring the fact that vanishingly few children (the primary audience, remember) are going to have the patience to hold out as long as Darwin did; most would react to someone like Jamie exactly the way Gumball did towards the conclusion. TL:DR; Please stop selectively ignoring elements of the media in order to half-assedly virtue signal towards people who need more substantial help than you taking offense on their behalf.

[@ICantRecognizeCelebrities]

I agree. It seems more like this episode is teaching the moral to viewers like Jamie, who bully others without the understanding of how they're affecting their victims.

[@DabbaIsCool]

👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@guslevogus6098]

How did you find my high school essay?!?!

[@morgan428]

K

[@nightingale3847]

The tldr was too long for me, so I didn’t read it... Damm I’m lazy

[@geardog24]

This brings up the problem with tv couples. If a boy acts violent to a girl it's a big no no and deserves to be punished, but if a girl act violent to a boy it's comedy gold and becomes a running gag.

[@barryyy69]

same in real life too. It isnt a good message to show younger people because yeah it shows boys it's not good to be abusive (correct) but it shows girls it's fine if they abuse boys

[@michaelstrong5383]

Ah, good ol' double standards. Everybody's most favorite thing in the world.

[@PeterGriffin11]

true but I still like the episode reguardless

[@baalsagol346]

@@PeterGriffin11 shut up meg

[@groudongamer3178]

*laughs in family Guy*

[@alvinittowo]

"Species: Troglodyte cow" Jay: wHO kNOws WhAT sHe trULY iS

[@TheAlphaJayShow]

Bruh I Read The Wiki You Troglodyte

[@theodoro3188]

Cow/Troglodyte hybrid

[@funa6968]

@@TheAlphaJayShow rude

[@CatLeone2003]

@@funa6968 r/woooosh

[@bluedragon8762]

@@funa6968 whoooooosh

[@kailiahmoon]

Darwin and Jamie aren't the best couple, but Carrie was the better choice for Darwin. She has to be one of the best characters out there since she's a ghost

[@angeldroidcs4962]

Kailiah Seekings and emo

[@kailiahmoon]

@@angeldroidcs4962 Yeah I know. Do u like to draw?

[@rokukou]

AngelDroid CS i hated that character because she was so edgy

[@kailiahmoon]

Do either of u like to draw?

[@agb8206]

Yeah,they’re complete opposites which makes it perfect.

[@peachyman8211]

The ending was a joke not a moral of the story

[@James-oj6ru]

Peachy Dude Kinda obvious and yet alot of people doesn’t think of it like that......

[@willhiggins9563]

It was a moral wrapped in a joke. What Jamey said was true, but her saying it that way was the joke.

[@_zealos_8213]

@@willhiggins9563 OP means after that. In the infirmary after Darwin got punched.

[@sussyangel7492]

If Jamie could feel remorse for her past actions like Flash Thompson. Or if she would feel remorse she would change and she would be like Janice Avery(Bridge to Terabithia) she would knock Julius and his friends for an asshole towards Gumball.

[@bugonboris6681]

I was pretty sure what Gumball said at the end was just a "Funny" joke, but I honestly never found it funny.

[@kiwikarp9509]

The main message of this episode is not that abusive relationships are okay. Darwin is constantly criticized for his mindset, and ends up getting punished for staying in the relationship. Also, they never make the relationship out to be good in any capacity, so there's no reason to think that the episode is cool with abusive relationships. And before anyone says it shouldn't be in a cartoon for kids, thinking like that is selling kids short. They'll be able to pick up on messages that aren't preachy and in their faces.

[@PeterGriffin11]

also this episode clearly isn't supposed to be taken seriously and it's not trying to teach any life lessons.

[@HackiePuffs]

They could’ve done a better job at making this clear though so it still isn’t great it’s got a problem with being vague.

[@WillNyeTheScienceGuy11]

Well, the episode isn't trying to be cool with abusive relationships, the way executed the episode was though. Kids could potentially pick up on these messages. Like you said kids aren't dumb, but they can still pick up bad behavior, which is why I and many others don't like this episode.

[@justjoking4223]

@@HackiePuffs how is it vague exactly. The entire episode, gumball was telling Darwin that he needed to speak up. And at the end even Jamie flat out said that what she was doing was wrong. It's extremely clear.

[@justjoking4223]

@@WillNyeTheScienceGuy11 if kids pick up any bad behavior from this episode, its because they didn't actually watch the full episode. Gumball goes on and on about how Darwin needs to stand up for himself, and Jamie says that she was wrong for doing what she did. The episode was very clear about why this relationship was a problem. So even if kids did emulate bad behavior from this, it's hardly the episode or the writers fault. The reason people have an issue with the episode, is because they didn't take the time to think about what was actually happening in it. They just hopped on a bandwagon and made baseless accusations. You can not like the episode, but saying that it gives a message that promotes bad behavior just isn't true.

[@Fujiisan]

I think she's just compensating for stuff... like her mother seems controlling based on other episodes, so she probably doesn't have a lot to do for herself without being controlled, and because she can't vent anywhere else, she's probably taking it out on other students because that's how she's learned to deal with problems, as unfortunate as it is.

[@user-unos111]

Dude, NEVER try to excuse a bully's behaviour.

[@Fujiisan]

@@user-unos111 But she has shown some signs of not wanting to be like that though, as even after her outburst, without her mother present, she has apologized to people like Darwin for her behavior.

[@Fujiisan]

@@user-unos111 I'm not trying to excuse her being a bully either. We all know she is in the wrong, but there just has to be a reason for her behaving the way she does.

[@dabuff1319]

Every bully has a reason for being one. Jaime has a lack of social knowledge and a lot of pent up anger.

[@PK-Radio]

No she's a yak its in her nature to act this way

[@halleyangel1706]

I can understand people hating this episode. This episode reminds me of the seriously messed up relationship of Beck and Jade from Victorious. That personally made me not like the show for pushing such toxic relationships to people. This episode does the same thing as that in Victorious. Which shows a very very toxic relationship that no body should want. Now I personally think that Victorious was worse since that show showed teenagers in a worse situation. And the show does get points since The Bully does realize she's wrong. Jade never does.

[@nixuniverse5240]

I’m pretty sure Beck & Jade’s relationship wasn’t supposed to make you say “Hey viewers, go get into a toxic relationship !”. Also you must’ve forgotten about the episode where Jade comes to turns with the fact that her and Beck are over and is completely okay with him going out with Tori.

[@halleyangel1706]

@@nixuniverse5240 But than Beck goes right back to Jade and inturn she goes right back to her old toxic self. That is not a healthy relationship

[@nixuniverse5240]

Halley Angel What exactly to you mean by “toxic” ? They never cheated on each other, the never beat each other, the most they did was argue. Every relationship will have it’s arguments. If anything, it’s just as toxic to show a couple that NEVER argues because that’ll make people think that dating and relationships are easy.

[@beastcarleeto707]

@@nixuniverse5240 sure arguments happen, but if its 24/7 and always petty then theres a problem

[@halleyangel1706]

@@nixuniverse5240 Arguments are one thing but if all you do is fight and you constantly feel you have to constantly be around your spouse or significant other because there even around the opposite gender you got a serious problem. Even if what Jade did to Beck was played up for comedy sake it's still wrong. She doesn't trust Beck to even be around friends that's not normal

[@nixuniverse5240]

I agree with you. I think people are too quick to blame other people because they interpreted something wrong. If you completely miss the point of whatever a show is trying to get across, you can’t blame them for that. Your interpretations are no one else’s responsibility.

[@waluigi3515]

Damn right. Too many people on the internet and even in irl blame others for their mistakes. Take the time to understand it instead of getting pissed off.

[@moonstone5549]

damn you write for gumball? you know how its MEANT to be interpreted? its a kids show. you shouldnt HAVE things like this that could be misinterprated

[@nixuniverse5240]

Moonstone That’s an ignorant statement. Yeah it’s a kids show so what ? Kids aren’t the drooling, snot nosed, booger eating, cheesy fingers having, saliva smelling little monsters people make it seem. It’s not wrong to have them use their own brains and challenge their own morality by giving them complex topics to decipher. That’s why most cartoons nowadays are so mind numbingly nonsensical to the point where it’s almost insulting to watch. Also, writers more often than not have ONE clear narrative to get across, and if you get it wrong, you can’t get mad at the writers because they don’t control your brain. It’s up to YOU, to figure out the narrative. You can’t blame other people because YOU interpreted something wrong. That’s like getting mad at the teacher because YOU couldn’t understand the central idea of the given text properly; in turn failing the test. That’s YOUR problem, not anyone else’s. Also, I don’t think you know how to use rhetorical questions properly.

[@moonstone5549]

@@nixuniverse5240 dude ive been in abusive relationships and this episode can give the wrong idea. shut up, and realize that yes, kids can think, but they may be guided to the wrong conclusion. if that cobclusion is self blame, then it is BAD WRITING

[@nixuniverse5240]

Moonstone I’m sorry you had to go through that, but A) don’t get snappy with me because I’m not the one who abused you, and B) my point still stands. If you misinterpret something wrong, that is nobody else’s fault but yours. Edit : & while you do have a point that it IS possible for kids to misinterpret the message because nobody is perfect, it is then YOUR job as their guardian to clarify certain things; not riot against the show because “My kid misinterpreted what you said so your show is terrible!”. You can’t expect everyone to understand everything on the first try, but you also can’t expect people to PREACH to you through the screen because that is lazy writing. I’d rather a writer challenge my ability to think for myself than preach to me.

[@renamon5658]

Jamie is made of clay so that could explain why she is a mishmash character, also can you review the slap. Edit: one year later he did alpha jay is the best

[@thatkingk.roolmain842]

Because they are friends.

[@renamon5658]

@@thatkingk.roolmain842 i wished we could of gotten some episodes so we can see Jamie's and Tina's dynamic

[@ItsCosmoTewulf]

@@renamon5658 nice profile pic lol

[@renamon5658]

@@ItsCosmoTewulf thank you

[@PxndaCakes]

I loved that episode, but it was really weird...

[@anakinskywalker7208]

A lot of stuff in Gumball that is hated starts with the

[@TheAlphaJayShow]

Lol

[@unovi8141]

Weirdly enough I noticed most of the good episodes do as well? Such a weird coincidence lol

[@chunghung7951]

Anakin Skywalker Watch as gumball makes an entire episode about sand tomorrow

[@pyritewitch]

Even the mediocre ones wtf??

[@sbeveloaf1120]

All of the episodes besides the seasonals begin with the

[@rexwrecks2735]

Huh, I always thought she was a Minotaur.

[@happenedbychance3392]

Rex Wrecks I thought she was a Viking of some kind

[@thisiswhatyoullsee8901]

Isnt a minotaur a mix of different animals?

[@happenedbychance3392]

@@thisiswhatyoullsee8901 From Google: In Greek mythology, the Minotaur is a mythical creature portrayed in Classical times with the head and tail of a bull and the body of a man or, as described by Roman poet Ovid, a being "part man and part bull"

[@briannakaldor-mair9958]

I mean I think everyone is forgetting that her mother is an anthropomorphic cube and her father is a gnome goat...thing. So minotaur actually kind of works...

[@BugsyFoga]

This was the last episode I ever thought got hatred.

[@PeterGriffin11]

same I love this episode

[@risottopose9970]

Really, I think it is in fact, One of the worst episodes

[@thedarkone8313]

@@PeterGriffin11 shut up meg XD

[@shellshockedbros4458]

@@risottopose9970 But it's really not.

[@risottopose9970]

Shellshocked Bros I respect your opinion but I personally think it is

[@P1xxieDust3232]

4:00 in the episode where Darwin speaks his mind... he says,”Jamie’s rude and impolite because she’s half cow half troglodyte” so Jamie is half cow half troglodyte

[@firmercape8796]

Ooh I love that episode

[@P1xxieDust3232]

FirmerCape8 what’s your favorite episode of amazing world of gumball?

[@firmercape8796]

SfZk p1xxieDust what’s that?

[@justafellowsamaritan7845]

FirmerCape8 WHAT? WHAT DO YOU MEAN, “what is that?” YOU JUST SAID YOU LOVED THAT EPISODE?!?! I’m confused...

[@ps4pro668]

Darwin to Carrie,his future Gf,”Carrie thinks her styles unique,but she’s just one more emo freak”

[@temms1633]

So basically... In this episode Darwin has an abusive relationship with Jamie and because of it he is damaged, gumball keeps saying being in that relationship is bad, Jamie realizes what she does is bad, so everything with abusive relationships is bad. So then people say this is a bad episode because showing something so bad without actually saying in screen written in giant words it's bad, makes the children think being in a abusive relationship is a good idea... Welp, no matter how many times Darwin is damaged because of it, how many times Gumball says it's or not even the final realization tells that it is bad, this shows being in that kind of relationship is good! (sorry for my grammar mistakes, english isn't my first language)

[@gecko7779]

English isn't even your first language, yet you have literally been one of the only people to get the extremely obvious message of the episode, yet other people who only speak English couldn't get the episode's blatantly obvious message when Jamie literally explained out loud why abusive relationships are bad.

[@justjoking4223]

People really didn't think it through when they started complaining about this episode.

[@PxndaCakes]

I.k.r.

[@sussyangel7492]

Have you heard about Mysterious Stranger in The Adventures of Mark Twain??? Carrie should have offer Jamie to that guy as a sacrifice for punching Darwin.

[@a5tr4l]

The issue mainly stems from the final act and the ending where Jamie spontaneously realized the error of her ways, reinforcing what Darwin originally said was gonna happen. Then when Darwin shows up to finally stand up for himself, as he should, he gets beat up by Jamie and Gumball ends the episode with the stinger saying “you should’ve stayed quiet.” And that’s what people have a problem with. The episode was doing perfectly fine until they did a 180 at the end

[@TheSerenoShow]

I legit read that title as “The Garfield.”

[@easiestcc6451]

the episode would be about him wanting lasagna

[@iKozmic]

The only problem I see with this episode is that it sends a terrible message about abusive relationships but at the same time I feel that anyone who is old enough to be in a relationship should know that TAWOG ain't the place to be getting your relationship advice from.

[@gecko7779]

The literal abuser comes out and explains why what she did was wrong. Like the message was literally explained and spoken in plain English. Everyone in the comments has actually lost it.

[@skeltheshapeshifter2697]

How? Taking from Gecko's argument: Jamie is very clearly shown to be in the wrong. And in a way, so is Darwin. Gumball constantly tells him that he should *_not_* stay silent, and he's hurting himself and other people by doing so. In the end, Gumball is the one to turn her around by not staying silent, and she herself disagrees with her actions. That you cannot and should not force someone to love you. All around, it states everywhere that being abusive in a relationship is bad, and staying silent and doing nothing and staying with that abusive person is bad. So again, how?

[@sesereddead465]

Skel the Shapeshifter although it would’ve been better if it was Darwin who put his foot down and told Jamie that he would no longer tolerates her horrible actions and that you can’t act this way towards people you care about. I mean Darwin was the person Jamie spent the most time with and him finally saying something would like be more impactful than gumball being pulled into the plot, since he had a more passive role in this episode.

[@skeltheshapeshifter2697]

@@sesereddead465 So he needed to look for outside help. Some people just can't stand up to their abusers by themself or it's physically too dangerous to do so, and need outside help. How is that a bad message?

[@sesereddead465]

Skel the Shapeshifter but he literally keeps himself in this relationship when he could easily leave, especially after she loses her interest in him after setting her eyes on gumball. In fact near the end of the episode, he literally goes to Jamie for no valid reason aside from telling a lesson she already learnt. And I didn’t say that asking for outside help when trying to separate from an abusive partner was a bad message... don’t put words in my mouth... I said it would’ve been more impactful for Darwin to say something.

[@TheAlphaJayShow]

What episode should I cover next in the Search for the Worst Gumball episodes?

[@abiodunsulaiman2297]

The rival

[@deshawnedwards6412]

Do The Flower episode and The Fraud episode.

[@legendarysingh2173]

Alpha Jay Show The prank IMO.

[@boombip789]

When will you release the courage video

[@rastarainbow3944]

Im sorry *Seach* for the worst?!

[@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un]

Are we gonna ignore the fact that the doors of the school are just like Gumball, Darwin, and Anais

[@joe6185]

What

[@FreeStyle786]

The color of the doors to mimic the main character are done on purpose. 💯

[@HeilRay]

Bryan Bundy Ana is is a main character?

[@FreeStyle786]

@@HeilRay yes, Anais is a main character as she is one of the most 're-occurring' character(s) in each episode (as with all the Wattersons)

[@HeilRay]

@@FreeStyle786 Man they should have been in the final episode.

[@dongojangle106]

I honestly thought what Richard did was funny... until they stretched it out for as long as it did

[@dandansoysauce8762]

I wanna give them the benefit of the doubt and say they specifically did that on purpose bc it'd be funny to annoy ppl

[@livingcorpse349]

I like to imagine it’s the nonverbal way of saying, “Oh so and so just does that because she likes you” without immediately activating a volatile trigger response for kids who dealt with that exact issue

[@Cure_Hana]

I honestly got secondhand embarrassment from that scene; mainly because of how my own dad sometimes teases me when I mention meeting a male co-worker. 😓

[@thomastakesatollforthedark2231]

I think the moral of the episode is kind off like this: Kids (especially the bullies) lack the experience they need to properly deal with complex emotional situations and it's showing how to sort of handle it. Like, Jamie isn't some drunk that has had 30 years to learn how to deal with life. She's an, at most, 14yo that was raised in a household run by the giant sponge. No one seems to have stood up to her so she had no reason to assume her actions where bad but she did figure it out eventually because of just how scared Gumball was. It's an example of kids who deal with the same issues as Jamie to be like "Oh yeah, those kids I get money from really don't like me and want to avoid me" and they can internalize it as they get the message from a perspective they might be empathic to, Gumball and Darwin. Darwin and Gumball are sort of the same in this. Darwin is way too passive while Gumball is too antagonistic. I'm sure itd have been over sooner if Gumball asked or explained to Jamie how he felt.

[@briannakaldor-mair9958]

Furthermore she's a 14y/o (or younger) who struggles intellectually and uses intimidation and physical strength to compensate for her not being very bright. Like we all knew a kid who was like this, and I think the way they portray that character is actually really realistic. One of the things I like about TAWOG is that all the characters are deeply flawed but still extremely likeable.

[@zarviusjones8708]

7:18 Jamie manage to do that to Richard... HOW?! And Jamie wasn't suspended for doing that....WHY!?

[@TheAlphaJayShow]

Cartoon schools follow cartoon logic.

[@zarviusjones8708]

@@TheAlphaJayShow okay, but still. Bad written episode.

[@unovi8141]

@@zarviusjones8708 Don't tell me what you mentioned in the original comment is why you feel that way?

[@SilentDaydreams]

If it was realistic she probably would have been arrested for eating banana Joe.

[@anonymoussox6016]

gumball and darwin should be suspended from their school as well with all their antics

[@Mrmasterranter]

at this point Jamie ain't even a violent brute or bully, just a pure psycho who belongs on a mental ward

[@WillNyeTheScienceGuy11]

Yes I agree.

[@cronchy]

@@instartist_0871 what

[@WillNyeTheScienceGuy11]

@@instartist_0871 Hold on now, what do you mean "gay personalities"?

[@MahouShoujo-Studios]

@Jacob St.Clair Wait, what did that guy say? He deleted his comments, but judging by the term homophobic being used to describe them, I'm sure it wasn't good.

[@MahouShoujo-Studios]

@Jacob St.Clair Oh. Then I agree, he's quite homophobic.

[@Larry_Ibarra]

I think the problem people really had with this episode was that Jamie suffered no punishment for her actions, either in this episode or in later ones. It's like how Mr. Krabs got off Scot free in the intensely maligned "One Course Meal".

[@boneylockz3967]

1:47 That part always made me laugh how Carmen said "Well played, you made her _think"_ lmao

[@AveryScarlet]

This episode is like an outsider's understanding of a Yandere and Tsundere.... Who then had the bright idea to mix them together

[@scott1660]

A Tsandere?

[@michaelstrong5383]

"I don't like to review things on a moral driven purpose, unless the show explicitly is trying to push morals." Me: *(glares at Family Guy)* I'll say this about Gumball: Even their worst episodes that are sending bad messages isn't as bad or as frequent as Family Guy does it.

[@aidanmuller3358]

To be fair, Family Guy isn't known for sending positive messages to children.

[@Blanks8]

Isn’t even known to be for children

[@aidanmuller3358]

@Jacob St.Clair I don't understand. Can you explain?

[@PxndaCakes]

@Jacob St.Clair It's not. They simply asked a question. 🙄 I want to know as well. What did it mean? I don't watch Family Guy anymore.

[@AverytheCubanAmerican]

Jamie’s mind and Squidward’s bike have something in common, extremely explosive. Except Jamie didn’t get hurt by it and a Queen Jellyfish didn’t destroy her life support

[@James-oj6ru]

Avery the Cuban-American isn’t psychopathic, destructive and is helpful and nice sometimes (so an apathetic, angered person in bikini bottom or any normal person)

[@brandonvistan7444]

Firmly grasp it.

[@Eddie-ey5sf]

Avery the Cuban-American Holy crap I see you in literally every comment section I’m in.

[@moonstone5549]

its a lot less enjoyable when youve been through abusive relationships, seeing how to characters act and how it gets misconstrued. its really uncomfortable, knowing kids might think its fun or quirky (see: ten year olds wanting a 'yandere' girlfriend) also, punishing darwin for being abused? big yikes!

[@WillNyeTheScienceGuy11]

I totally agree.

[@petelee2477]

Who'd want yandere. The two worst type of girls to date is the yandere and the tsunderes

[@petelee2477]

@Jacob St.Clair even if they aren't abusive and not completely obsessed the fact is I like having some time to myself and likely won't get that with a yandere

[@moonstone5549]

@Jacob St.Clair trust me, man. theres a difference between yandere and obsessive i can be very obsessive over my two partners, but i never act violent. theres a big line

[@moonstone5549]

@Jacob St.Clair i hate the term yandere because guess what? it demonizes people with bpd

[@ricardooliveira562]

Honeslty, for me, nothing can beat that pile of crap call " the rival". And the episode inself I dont remember so well, but I remeber some decent moments come from it.

[@renamon5658]

Because it gave dangerous advice to kids.... This episode could of been writen better

[@TheAlphaJayShow]

I see it a bit different

[@renamon5658]

@@TheAlphaJayShow my favorite jamie episode is where her and anais work together to find out who unleashed a computer virus in the school library

[@tidepodpadthai2633]

How is this dangerous advice?

[@renamon5658]

@@tidepodpadthai2633 some believe the girlfriend gives bad advice about abusive relationships but now that i re watched it i can see it's an ok episode

[@icecreamhero2375]

No it doesn't because smart people don't look to television for life advice thy know its just fiction and to take it with a grain of salt. Also Darwin obviously did the wrong thing and being a passivist is his character.

[@r.j.penfold]

I've seen the argument that this normalizes abusive relationships and while I don't think that was the writer's intentions, interpretation is a huge thing to keep in mind in any sort of media.

[@aristotleasparaguspodcast1129]

Because it sends bad messages to viewers about abusive relationships. It's TAWOG's answer to Screams of Silence.

[@zacharylandrum4789]

You took the words right out of my mouth. In my opinion, it is even worse than Screams of Silence because it is primarily aimed at a younger audience.

[@aristotleasparaguspodcast1129]

@@zacharylandrum4789 And at least with Screams of Silence we could tell that it was ag least trying to be a TV length anti-domestic abuse PSA, even if it failed

[@zacharylandrum4789]

@@aristotleasparaguspodcast1129 Exactly. TheMysteriousMrEnter's review on Screams of Silence summed up everything wrong with the episode very well. It was definitely one of his angrier reviews, but I feel like the anger was justified because of how dangerous an episode like Screams of Silence is.

[@tidepodpadthai2633]

It literally tells you what they're doing is the wrong thing to do, how is that giving kids bad information? Should they just not talk about abusive relationships at all?

[@MightyMewtron]

@@aristotleasparaguspodcast1129 i think that makes it worse though? even if i'm kind of uncomfortable with how TAWOG played this scenario out, this episode isn't selling itself as some big dramatic take on a real issue. the FG episode did put on a serious tone. neither show can typically be taken seriously but this episode feels a lot more cartoony than the FG episode did.

[@RainyDoesNothing]

Jamie is like a Yandere that has realizations of the things that is going on and won’t hurt anyone

[@jackcraven8345]

Knixie Granite yes but I prefer tsundere

[@whatisthis1958]

Probably a yandere mixed in with a bit of tsundere

[@RainyDoesNothing]

what is this I think your right

[@SrFreakus]

"won't hurt people" *LITERALLY EATS OTHER CLASSMATES*

[@aWERFRGT6545BGFG]

bet if this episode was genderbent you wouldn't be saying the same thing

[@-VoDkAsVengeance-]

I liked the little bits where we'd see Jamie being sweet, like the "sorry honey, lost my temper." Not really any reasin, it's just kinda sweet lmao.

[@agoofyahhchannel6870]

the exact equal of *almost lost my cool there*

[@dollpickle]

also very manipulative of her lol

[@zacharylandrum4789]

Oh, boy... I've got a bad feeling that Alpha's going to get a lot of backlash because of this review...

[@LoganWH8]

Except, if Darwin *had* said and done nothing, he would’ve been stuck with her forever. In Jamie’s mind, the relationship was perfect. She only learned her lesson *because* Gumball resisted and fearfully asked her what she wanted.

[@LoganWH8]

I wouldn’t describe Gumball as “mean”. He’s self centered and arrogant, sure, but he’s not willfully hurtful to others the way Jamie or Miss Simian are. He generally tries to help people, he’s just not very good at it. If he ends up hurting someone, doing so wasn’t his intent, it’s generally a product of him being incompetent, a misunderstanding, or an accident.

[@lovefromwonderland]

I don't really understand this episode, to be honest. A lot of people are saying, "You missed the joke, you missed the joke!" What's the joke though? Jamie abusing the hell out of Darwin? That's funny? The funny part about this episode is the abusive relationship? Seriously, what is so hilarious about this? What's the joke?

[@CrustiiDustii]

Do you remember the episode “The Safety”? Idk if that WAS the name, but I remember it being very disturbing from the beginning scene. It was Darwin creating a dystopian society by increasing safety regulations or something

[@sesereddead465]

sir kook this sounds like it says a lot considering today’s KZbin thing with Coppa tbh...

[@williamdaviddiazcuchimaque7511]

Si básicamente convirtieron a darwin en hitler en ese episodio

[@dariushcreates]

I'm sorry but I hated this episode and I hated Jamie. But I understand why you like this episode and shined a different light on it. It kinda made me realise why the Gumball crew decided to pair Anais with Jamie. They're both outcasts with issues of making friends. Altough we don't see Jamie in any other episodes after that one. I guess Anais found out Jamie was bullying Darwin. XD

[@WillNyeTheScienceGuy11]

True, also I hated this episode as well.

[@Nionivek]

What does help is that Jamie doesn't STOP being a Bully. This isn't her becoming a better person, this is her finally realizing what it is she is doing... which is the first stepping stone to further character development... Character development that for the most part doesn't happen.

[@Wolfette-gl8vl]

This episode is definitely hard to tell with people...especially because how reviewing this episode always feels somewhat weird...I understand your point though as well...they were trying to introduce a new perspective and teach a lesson but it never resonated with people and that's understandable. This episode for me wasn't good and made me kinda uncomfortable.

[@Foxy_rin]

I always thought this episode was funny and I don’t see anything wrong with it I think people are blowing it out of proportion.

[@jabari1027]

Basically. Darwin asked Gumball to help. Gumball intervenes with Jamie. Gumball wants Darwin to stand up for himself. Gumball stands up for Darwin. Jaime realizes what she had done wrong. BAM! People on the internet are insane.

[@Wolfette-gl8vl]

@@jabari1027 Don’t forget the part where she does knock out Darwin and how Gumball said if he said nothing it would be okay...that’s not a good lesson.

[@ariahjames4340]

@@Wolfette-gl8vl That's supposed to be a joke, referencing what Darwin said in the beginning. Do think too hard about this. NO kid will think this is ok.

[@nicolereese9757]

@@Wolfette-gl8vl Gumball wasn't that seriously, it was clearly portrayed as a thing he said sarcastically in "I told you, your method of simply letting her being abusive and not doing anything to stop it was a bad idea".

[@groudongamer3178]

God I still remember mysterious mr.enters review on this episode. As a kid I didn't understand the implications of the episode but I felt uncomfortable. Now being older, I understand why I didn't really like this episode.

[@infinitygames9317]

This episode is hated?

[@tomsagamesisbackagain.3808]

Hey again.

[@infinitygames9317]

Tomsa wolf Hey there!

[@renamon5658]

Yeah it's the most hated episode and had the least views compared to others

[@byt2413]

Good morning.

[@infinitygames9317]

Renamon 565 THIS is the most hated. I know there’s concerns about the message, but it’s still very cleverly written. I never really noticed.

[@DJTileTurnip]

3:15 He puts the cheese on his face and then faces down, but the cheese appears on the other side

[@vulpixle9659]

I honestly love some of the joke's in this episode i still laugh at the coconut joke me and my older brother now call coconuts Harry milk cartons also if you wanna see a cartoon handle a abusive relationship there's the mask from courage the cowardly dog

[@dellspeltwithadell6525]

This is honestly one of my favorite episodes. I didn’t know it got so much crap

[@zombosspiggy2498]

It gets hate because the message is stay silent if you are being abused

[@abiodunsulaiman2297]

@@zombosspiggy2498 the end was a joke not the moral

[@nefty_plus]

It reminds me of the "I guess, crying does solve your problems after all." quote from SpongeBob's "Stuck in The Wringer" episode. I saw that many people took this literally and were criticizing it, but I feel that this was just a joke.

[@icecreamhero2375]

3:32 The bully protective armor HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[@stratkids]

What would happen if Jamie met Susie from Deltarune? I found a picture on DeviantART of them arm wrestling

[@TheAlphaJayShow]

Bruh

[@pre6253]

@@TheAlphaJayShow bruh moment

[@andrewsanusi8462]

Bruh

[@stratkids]

@@TheAlphaJayShow indeed

[@D_YellowMadness]

Jamie always makes me think of Susie. I'm a little surprised this is the first comment I've seen about it. They're both weird creatures that are hard to describe who have hair covering their eyes, go to a normal school full of weird creatures, & eat stuff meant for drawing/writing (if that was paint Jamie ate) & their names end the same. They also both wanna be better but don't know how to socialize without being a dick.

[@Bloodedskull19]

Did...did most people in this comment section not watch the video? Everyone seems to just not get the episode or what Alpha Jay was even saying. The show wouldn't have Jamie realize and say aloud exactly WHY her actions were bad if she wasn't supposed to be in the wrong, which she was...

[@sugarskies611]

Thank you for still making Gumball content. It makes me smile the fact people still care about the community! ❤️

[@jubusch]

“I love gumball from...” Teen titans go?

[@canvasism]

Adventure Time?

[@Cammydoesstuff_]

Regular show?

[@unbearabletruth4310]

The Amazing World of My Little Pony

[@icegamingfiregaming5441]

Darwin’s Yearbook?

[@mogetheidiot]

Regular Show?

[@icecreamhero2375]

I think this episode is hilarious.

[@TheOrthodoxSquad]

Isn't!?

[@icecreamhero2375]

@@TheOrthodoxSquad All the jokes made me roll on the floor though I didn't even know people disliked it until today.

[@_zealos_8213]

@@icecreamhero2375 lmao same

[@jabari1027]

Basically. Darwin asked Gumball to help. Gumball intervenes with Jamie. Gumball wants Darwin to stand up for himself. Gumball stands up for Darwin. Jaime realizes what she had done wrong. BAM!

[@user-lr8ow2jg4e]

wtf

[@neotrix2009]

3:00 "...and protective of Gumball" The characters hearing about the fight between Gumball and Tina: *FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!*

[@jafengaming]

2:16 i got an ad here and i was perfectly cut, kinda like those perfectly cut scream videos or inappropriate credit roll videos

[@LapisLight]

This episode acutely has a very good message on how you can't force a relationship and maybe listening to others isn't that bad

[@iamanonymoushoweveryousayi3163]

This made me realize that Jamie officially committed a Kanker. If anyone knows what I mean...

[@thatkingk.roolmain842]

Haha Ed Edd and Eddy

[@souljadude8773]

Lmao, good one.

[@HeilRay]

Guess she’s getting obscene amounts of “fanart”? Annny time now.

[@iamanonymoushoweveryousayi3163]

*HellRay* I meant as in she tortures the main character in a “romantic” way.

[@iamanonymoushoweveryousayi3163]

star dust romantic torture

[@WhimsicalBunn]

as someone who's been abused I have to say your reasoning for why it's not about submitting to an abusive relationship is a fallacy an abuser can be oblivious to their abuse and abuse victim can be aware they're in danger and being abused

[@catching.rainbows]

“Silo, it’s time to look forward and start asking yourself the big questions” “What flavor of ice cream is Sarah!?”

[@nitgotlost]

I’ve never hated a Gumball episode except for The Singing. But, I will say that I think it’s ridiculous when people feel like Gumball MUST/SHOULD be a serious show. TAWOG is like an escape from serious shows.

[@SrPaisano]

The episode was so hated because of its message about abusive relationships and to just do nothing so the other will “figure it out”

[@justjoking4223]

That's not what the message was at all.

[@justjoking4223]

@@SrPaisano I don't really feel like arguing about this, so I'm just going to say that you're looking at this too deeply. What gumball said at the end was a joke. He literally says things like that to Darwin all the time. Darwin should have said something earlier, before Jamie came to the conclusion herself. And the lesson of the episode was that love can't be forced. Not how to handle abusive relationships. But like I said, I don't want to argue about so think whatever you want I guess.

[@anakin7266]

Most of the episodes deemed bad are those in which there is no moral and that convey a wrong message, such as the girlfriend, the laziest, and the rival, but these episodes do not want to transmit any message

[@willbunnell889]

The Robot is the next episode you should do. Or the episode where Nicole does shopping alone and the rest of the family do everything they can to get candy. Ending with them shoplifting and Nicole going completely insane down to chasing Richard!

[@romaromasalad112]

5:05 OH MY GOD SHE'S ADORABLE AAAAAAAAAA

[@xxcreamythefoxx7086]

That is the first time I saw someone compliment Jamie like that. Jamie is a very hated character in TAWOG, if not, the MOST hated. I even saw a meme someone made on Google basically sending death threats to her, LOL🤣

[@romaromasalad112]

@@xxcreamythefoxx7086 sheeeeeeesh

[@claracarrion5469]

i love your channel, your reviews are really enjoyable to watch and your arguments are pretty convincing! i’m glad someone still does gumball related videos 😊

[@froggofood2307]

Tbh I really don’t like this one, it teaches kids that being in an abusive relationship is ok and long as you aren’t getting physically hurt and as long as you try to understand the other person, it’s OKAY. Which isn’t definitely NOT ok. If you feel like your life is in danger in a relationship, you should try to get out of that relationship as SOON AS POSSIBLE. And I don’t like that Darwin was ignoring Gumball’s advice to break up with Jamie because he saw that she was being narcissistic and malicious with Darwin. As someone who has seen close family members in extremely toxic and downright terrible relationships, this episode never sat well with me. And I can say it’s the worst Gumball episode (in my opinion)

[@PinoyBowlerGS92]

The Girlfriend Episode is my MOST HATED episode ever. I was expecting either a Gumball & Penny or Darwin & Carrie on a Valentines Day or something, not Jaime and doing shit to others. Imagine if Jaime attacks Gumball, Penny would see that, shape shifts and kill Jaime. That would be cool.

[@tomsagamesisbackagain.3808]

When your early and don't know what to say. Uhh... *imma bad girlfriend imma bad girlfriend. Yeah. Huh.*

[@LoganWH8]

Except Darwin wasn’t right. Jamie *didn’t* figure it out on her own, and if Gumball had done nothing like Darwin was doing and wanted him to, the abusive, miserable future Gumball imagined very well could’ve come true. Jamie only figured out the lesson *because* Gumball resisted and tried to escape

[@unovi8141]

A lot of people just echoing the same points they had before even after the video. Good take on an overhated episode.

[@WillNyeTheScienceGuy11]

I don't feel this episode is overhated, it deserves a lot of hate.

[@unovi8141]

@@WillNyeTheScienceGuy11 The abusive relationship argument is being mismatched with an episode that didn't try to teach you the opposite at all. Outside of the the episode is pretty inoffensive anyway, with some funny bits and some less so.

[@WillNyeTheScienceGuy11]

@@unovi8141 Just because the episode did not teach something, doesn't mean it can't be implied. Also, considering many people agree with me, I don't think the episode was inoffensive.

[@gecko7779]

@@WillNyeTheScienceGuy11 8:38 When the literal abuser comes out and explains to you why abusive relationships are bad in plain English but you still think the episode is saying "abusive relationships are good". Why are you like this?

[@unovi8141]

@@WillNyeTheScienceGuy11 Considering Darwin exercising what is claimed to be implied, that is, not doing anything and just hoping things will change, and that things ended badly for Darwin, it's hard to say it was implied at all. And on another note, what's being portrayed here is being done in a cartoonish light. It's not taking itself nearly as seriously as it would have to to make a moral regarding abusive relationships believable. Honestly by this point I wouldn't be surprised people just saw the very faint parallel and saw it as a good target as something to hate. No-one's coming out of this episode with a newfound toxic view on relationships because it's so far removed from what abusive relationships are actually like both in tone and substance.

[@giovanniyoutuber132]

Me after seeing the chase: 50K 50K... FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS SPENDED

[@guillermosierracuellar9812]

And surprisingly this is not the first that Darwin or Gumball are in a freaky relationship episode Remember the Dress Gumball only had to say that he was Gumball to end the episode but he preferred to be treated as a woman

[@ricoarjuna6293]

I guess this Episode make me hated Jamie from TAWOG. She is really worse than Nelson Muntz from The Simpsons and Trent Boyett from South Park. I guess She is should be get Arrested.

[@ash-ns6pd]

Am I the only one who Jamie recalls me of the eldest of the three Kranker sisters of Ed edd n Eddy?

[@SegaNintendoGuy64]

10:27 Characters enjoyed being abusive, Now where have I heard that before?

[@mackenziehudson9249]

I always thought she was a yak

[@reesesollars1553]

Your review surprised me I didn't expect to see someone actually like the episode and it did open my eyes a little to not review some things based on my morals but I still don't like the message of this episode but I also see how your opinion of The Girlfriend make sense

[@sallytheuselessbird]

I love almost all of the gumball episodes. The newer ones are my favourites.

[@Oct_sflb]

I have not been here for a while and this intro is pretty good! I'm impressed on how you developed.

[@JokeHatesItHere]

I never knew any of these gumball episodes were hated

[@dekrakins]

I love this episode. And Jamie is such a cool character.

[@GreatLakesAnimator]

I think this episode is so hated because of its depiction of an abusive relationship, and the terrible advice given throughout the whole thing. Near the end, everyone goes off the deep end, so it kinda creepy too

[@thisbeusername2555]

jay : i like characters that aren't major league villains and have these bursts of niceness me : (immediately) dr.doofenshmirtz

[@jackpearce367]

Getting to the comments before Alan does

[@tomsagamesisbackagain.3808]

We lucky BOISS

[@jackpearce367]

Got likes Alan is that you

[@hardygal2]

First thing's first, before I start the video... People hated this episode? I remember it being super funny personally... But, on the other hand, I don't really interact with people on the internet soooo I dunno. Okay, on with the video

[@s1nn4m0n]

When I was a kid I thought Alan was a girl and him and Carmen were lesbians

[@LapisLight]

SAME 😭😭😭

[@sleeppyy3221]

Same!

[@fredthegamingfan]

Jamies Half Cow, Half Troclodyte.

[@AzariahRyan789]

This whole Episode was forced in my opinion. Instead of forcing Darwin or anyone to date Jamie... Well let's just say this episode could've been done right instead of the creepiness D:

[@AzariahRyan789]

@Jacob St.Clair It was slightly disturbing

[@AzariahRyan789]

@Jacob St.Clair good point

[@TheClassicnathan]

The only reason Darwin got punched and his legs broken like spagetti noodles wasn't because he spoke up against Jamie. It was because he decided to speak up *AFTER* Gumball already took action for him. Like I get that she says "if you ignore me or break up with me there will be serious consequences" but she doesn't say Darwin can't speak up for himself or tell her how he feels. Jay literally says in this video that if Darwin had taken gumball's advice and spoke up earlier then this episode would have been resolved in a matter of mins. Ngl tho I feel like this episode in general could have been handled a whole lot better expecially the ending since gumball goes against his own advice and tells the hospitalized Darwin "yeah you we're right. All you did have to do was stay quiet and everything would have been alright". Also OF COURSE THE DANG EPISODE IS OVER EXAGGERATED! JAMIE LITERALLY FARTS ON A SENTIENT ICE CREAM 😂 not only that but she also beats up Richard and spells out "SORRY" with the school faculty members who then ask "is she gone?" If this show was more realistic she would obviously not be able to get away with that or even have the strength to do that duh. Also I'm not gonna lie I found Richard's performance funny just because I feel like that's something I'd probably do to my friend just to mess with them if they were dating a girl but I'll be it not to the extent richard did. By the way are we all going to ignore that *nipples* is a word that was said in this episode?

[@PJEllison]

Why this episode is so hated is because it supposedly teaches kids to be silent in toxic relationships, and you should let the toxic partner figure it out for themselves. Since this is a terrible lesson, and is the theme of the episode, not just a side thing that will likely go unnoticed by young kids, the episode is then hated.

[@Gamer_Dylan_6]

I've always liked Jamie's design. Cute character.

[@zarviusjones8708]

Why would Ben change her character personality COMPLETELY from first two season ( nice, cool, and troublemaker) to season 3 + (a completely new bully (for unknown change reason)) ?!

[@nagtomdorya1341]

Omg my friend was telling me about you! New sub!!

[@zakattack1745]

When Richard said, ayeyeye, it gave me some dad vibes lmao

[@PxndaCakes]

Well, he's a dad, lol.

[@fxstdribbler6427]

9:00 me neither. In reality no relationships work like that with women. You got to atleast have a backbone and be in abundance