What is the difference between lobbying and bribery? 🧐
@matt39353 ай бұрын
There is none, lobbying is just what American politicians like to call it as bribery doesn't have a nice ring to it.
@imrimaz3 ай бұрын
I was looking for this comment. None whatsoever
@zacharywissinger39963 ай бұрын
It depends on whether those benefiting are part of the in-group or not.
@mirkostanic923 ай бұрын
@@zacharywissinger3996 Aren't lobbyists representatives of corporations or non-profit organizations that are mostly funded by corporations that do tax deductions by donating to non-profits?🙂
@zacharywissinger39963 ай бұрын
@@mirkostanic92 I don’t understand what you are getting at.
@stoonookw3 ай бұрын
Honestly, it's crazy that the US can put this guy in jail and cost Ecuador billions in lost revenue, but they can't put some of our politicians (and their family members) in jail for insider trading in the stock market.
@aninda24573 ай бұрын
Exactly and I don’t understand how US is affected by a crime taking place in Latin America?
@mikecrooks80853 ай бұрын
So now to get a clue somebody needs to tell us who has replaced the ecuadorian fixers. Somebody with more influence paying better and bigger bribes.
@InconspicuousOwl3 ай бұрын
Commodity trading is a cutthroat game & bribes is juat how business is done in these countries. This dude seems like a scapegoat for the rest of the industry.
@sandworm95283 ай бұрын
Exactly
@theprestigerklopt50853 ай бұрын
Doesn't deny the fact that he is still guilty though
@dummyfarm3 ай бұрын
@@theprestigerklopt5085 It doesn't but he still is a small fish
@HKim00723 ай бұрын
It's the most rigged game out there. Plus, the market is controlled by a handful of big firms which I guarantee are colluding on the direction of trades. People don't realize how little money it takes to corner the market and make commodity futures prices double.
@functionalvanconversion42843 ай бұрын
💯
@divinerespect3093 ай бұрын
Lobbyists advocates big corporations = Billionaires Club
@yt.personal.identification3 ай бұрын
Oligarchs
@sutats3 ай бұрын
Corruption is everywhere. All it takes is someone willing to dig. Great job guys.
@yt.personal.identification3 ай бұрын
The goal is to get your form of corruption to be legalised. That's what lobbyists are for.
@johntaylor32983 ай бұрын
Meh, America didn't get their cut and were salty.
@drmodestoesq3 ай бұрын
Define "America" in this case.
@xcel52033 ай бұрын
How many investment bankers were prosecuted or jailed in the 2008 banking crash ?
@rabokarabekian4093 ай бұрын
Just as many government people as were for fostering the 2008 schemes. Just as many as were prosecuted for faking the Iraq and Afghan war "reasons". One less than the fall guy for the Reagan-era Iran-Contra crimes. Just as many as were prosecuted for the Vietnam war "reasons". Just as many as were prosecuted for the ongoing Central and South American coups. Just as many as were prosecuted for the Korean war "reasons". Just as many as were prosecuted for the Spanish-American war "reasons". And so it goes.
@tsubadaikhan63323 ай бұрын
@@rabokarabekian409 That's very bleak. And maybe accurate.
@davianoinglesias50303 ай бұрын
Who's in charge of the racket now? I'm guessing an American
@doglegjake67883 ай бұрын
Very well put 😂
@mikecrooks80853 ай бұрын
Not necessarily, it is who is the new racket paying now and how much?
@smarteveryday16063 ай бұрын
conclusion if you're not among the govt selected oligarch or not sharing profit with them you're not legal.
@RichardDressler3 ай бұрын
The prosecutor, for reasons unexplained. Will be seeking only half the potential prison time... Sorry you were saying something about bribes?
@TexasRiverRat312543 ай бұрын
It's interesting how they "overlook" that the corruption doesn't just happen elsewhere in the world. I live in Texas, this was based in Houston, follow the money to the source and you'll have the rest of the story.
@quattrocity96203 ай бұрын
I miss Paul Harvey
@TiagoLageira3 ай бұрын
El Gordo is literally the skinniest one.
@urbanstrencan3 ай бұрын
Just crazy story, thanks for bringing us videos like this 🤟🤟❤
@gregheffley23 ай бұрын
FBI charged Aguilar for bribing a foreign official. Shouldn't this fall under Ecuador's jurisdiction?
@aninda24573 ай бұрын
That’s what I am wondering
@KiwiCatherineJemma3 ай бұрын
A few years back, 'Merica changed its laws so that the FBI can enforce USA laws, in other countries (ie where USA's laws, don't normally apply).
@legoyoda2563 ай бұрын
164 million dollars in fines paid to who though? The US goverment??
@user-wn2ho5ij5f3 ай бұрын
Don’t worry, they won’t use it for nefarious things, it would be used to help people 😀
@legoyoda2563 ай бұрын
@@user-wn2ho5ij5f nah I'm on about how this scammed the south African people but the fines would be paid to US government a whole different country
@drmodestoesq3 ай бұрын
@@user-wn2ho5ij5f How much does the American tax payer pay for social security, medicare, medicaid and welfare? That's a huge percentage of Federal spending. So yes, it will be used to help the American people.
@Jasonvmays3 ай бұрын
Great job, now show a video about lobbying😂
@Souchirouu3 ай бұрын
Can you do a video on the NED (National Endowment of Democracy)? Their name keeps popping up whenever there are "democratic" elections where they seem to be major players in funding, providing marketing expertise and connecting high level officials to each other and other major players.
@garrenosborne96233 ай бұрын
Thanks for the lead
@frankcoffey3 ай бұрын
Fantastic reporting.
@xcel52033 ай бұрын
So why aren't the sanctimonious American lawmakers who are using their position and knowledge in legislative chambers for their own benefit not being prosecuted ?
@Atilla-m9i3 ай бұрын
This proves how valuable oil is as a commodity.
@confirmproductions3 ай бұрын
The last sentence gave it all away! Beautifully summed up!
@adstix3 ай бұрын
Do you have a similar video for Nigeria's oil industry? Many European and US companies have soiled their fingers there in cahoot with the local authorities but no big fish has been held accountable yet!
@bernardkealey64493 ай бұрын
They don’t have a video like this about Nigerian corruption because there haven’t been any convictions with this sort of evidence. This is not a piece of investigative journalism, it is just recounting and showing evidence that was presented in court proceedings.
@Drunken_Master3 ай бұрын
This is how electricity trading works in southeastern Europe. State-owned electricity generation is still dominant, so you cannot close a deal without "greasing" the authorities.
@Xergecuz3 ай бұрын
Did the FBI guy admit that lobbying is a form of corruption?
@waynejshynzhinds44343 ай бұрын
So if companies decide to stop using 3rd parties to do business, simply means they will now do the bribing, i mean lobbying themselves.... with billions at stake, big bizness isnt hit or miss. Its making sure u influence outcomes (doing watever to get ur desired outcome).... companies will pay 10m to a key official, if it will get them a billion in revenue.
@mikecrooks80853 ай бұрын
So because you can't do business in 90% of the world without bribing someone, because of the laws in this country, all big businesses will move their productions, finances, legal responsibilities and trades, off shore. So just like shipping companies that must pay bribes to stay in business internationally, they are all owned and flagged out of country. They will only operate within USA jurisdiction somewhat legally (with the bribes better hidden) and the world will by shut of American business and trade.
@amanulhaq91303 ай бұрын
This is precisely what is happening in LNG spot market/long term contracts.
@Optable3 ай бұрын
Vitrol put up what 'money' to Oman instead? The barrels?
@nightmark21203 ай бұрын
Here comes the whataboutism of US and EU. Rather than going to their perspective countries official stop asking for bribes to win contracts rather than who can pay the highest cut to said politician where the money doesn't go to state to improve people lives but to their pockets.
@carlose60103 ай бұрын
Give it up.. bribery is not a big issue in North America.. or the truly developed countries of Europe.
@traderboi26623 ай бұрын
@@carlose6010😂😂😂
@DouglasJWalker3 ай бұрын
Respect Bloomberg
@swatteam20023 ай бұрын
hopefully they cover the chinese influence .. IF they dare ..
@yuckmouth3 ай бұрын
He says "in countries where corruption is a fact of life."
@akhilesh50273 ай бұрын
Noob q - the monetary loss was primarily Ecuadors, the FBI did the investigation and the conviction happened in the US. Vitol paid a 164mn fine. Who got that money? Ecuador or US or ?
@edition_89232 ай бұрын
This is very typical. They only go after the small fish; the big fish gets away with a fine, which may seem like a lot to your average person, but it's a drop in the ocean when it comes to the company's profits. Oil companies, drug companies, banks; THEY ALL GET AWAY WITH IT.
@KenzoQasim2233 ай бұрын
These men are innocent
@drmodestoesq3 ай бұрын
They were looking after their families....how is that a crime?
@functionalvanconversion42843 ай бұрын
We keep giving them money by being wasteful.
@DruggiePlays3 ай бұрын
1:26 dude just described OGs like chapo and Escobar 😂
@terencewinters21542 ай бұрын
The damage to the state of ecuador was enormous . But since ecuadorian officials were not about to arrest their own the nexus of the case was in its US bribers and while they tried to hide it as a triangular transaction through Oman the directors of the corruption were in houston and miami. If the ecuadorian state officials were not in the fee/ bribe business and were just assisting in making the state coffers richer they d just be content with their salaries while seeking a better deal than the markup by oman which the briber/brokers negotiated . Fee or bribe difficult to tell until you see if the finders fee is going in the wrong direction.
@LivingWithGout3 ай бұрын
If only greed knew limits.
@X-Warrior.11193 ай бұрын
Hey are you gonna fix that "ANDRETTI" video of yours from Power Players?!...
@gigante873 ай бұрын
What exactly did they do wrong?
@ridhoabud92163 ай бұрын
INCOME TAX. If they report it to IRS it's call LOBBYING.
@russellpengilley59243 ай бұрын
Bribed people to buy the product from the state owned oil company under market value, the loser was the people of Ecuador.
@mikecrooks80853 ай бұрын
Yeah all I could gather they were shuffling money around taking a cut of everything and bribing some body some where for something. Sounds like the typical world of global finance and trading to me.
@henrythegreatamerican81363 ай бұрын
Not sure why this surprises anyone. Oil isn't the only commodity this happens with. It's just the most obvious to spot because of all the money involved. The quicker we move to green energy the better.
@vikasrelwani25883 ай бұрын
We need similar reports for crude oil theft and corruption from Nigeria
@drmodestoesq3 ай бұрын
That would be as thick as an old New York phone book. A slimmer volume would be politicians and oil industry types that aren't involved in corruption.
@skyw42783 ай бұрын
It takes one to know one....criminals recognize criminals. They only talking about this now that the american dollar is USELESS!!!
@johnviscedo3 ай бұрын
Their rivals must have paid off (lobbied) 🇺🇸 Uncle Sam first to take them out of the game 😂
@rabokarabekian4093 ай бұрын
There no more bribes. Now it is commissions.
@VasVordokas3 ай бұрын
Retrospectively, 2008 was the pivotal beginning of the end for Ecuador in the modern era. The only reason the resource curse didn’t implode the country sooner was dollarization and namely dollar remittances and US retirees
@samcavanagh79933 ай бұрын
$4.8 BILLION in profits and they're fined less than 200 mil???
@Begbietheradge3 ай бұрын
Nice cameo by Ewan McGregor as Tuco Pere
@wv95292 ай бұрын
I dont understand how does this story involves the US in any way except that dollars where used as currency.
@Daniel-xb4yb3 ай бұрын
So FBI investigates other countries wrongdoings but not its own
@drmodestoesq3 ай бұрын
Really? You can't think of a single person convicted of fraud in the United States?
@enriquebalpstraffon3 ай бұрын
Could you point me to information that shows Mexican officials involved in this corruption scheme?
@williamguru3 ай бұрын
Nobody cares as long as the oil keeps flowing and the lights come on when they flip the switch.
@michaelmokotong3 ай бұрын
The first time?......It's a start.
@skyw42783 ай бұрын
LOL...scammers talking about scammers.
@hans63043 ай бұрын
Visit Indonesia.
@paulc67663 ай бұрын
Better than its neighbour Australia.
@Lookintomyeyez2 ай бұрын
When you find out trust me they keep it hidden from you the moment you find out oh I did this for you sure
@filmawayvlad3 ай бұрын
Was it legal? To tape-record them, that is?..
@madn933 ай бұрын
Weird, lobbying that is...
@doglegjake67883 ай бұрын
They are Probably United States politicians 😂
@billybeck81693 ай бұрын
+1 FBI rep points
@hashimmirza30793 ай бұрын
All of them would have pleaded not guilty if they were from juice race
@drmodestoesq3 ай бұрын
Bernie Madoff, Ivan Boeskey, Charles Kushner....lots have been convicted and imprisoned.
@theadchefer3 ай бұрын
white collar crime usually gets 10 years or less… apparently this only applies when you match the white description lol
@BASE5NYC3 ай бұрын
Ridiculous. It's how business is done. Get over it nerds
@eijazwalid41073 ай бұрын
Global oil Refineries ~ Earth's raw. ☺️
@morganhely56053 ай бұрын
This did not explain a single thing 😅
@dwayne99593 ай бұрын
maybe I'm missing something but what's the big deal?
@mexicanlawconsultant3 ай бұрын
THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN AT ALL IN TODAY'S EFFICIENT AND HONEST GOVERNMENTS AROUND THE WORLD! BRIBERY IS A THING OF THE PAST 🤣
@WillR-Cincy3 ай бұрын
Certain industries these kind of transactions are standard procedures, if you can’t recognize how to set it up you won’t succeed. This description is very amateurish
@opusnone13 ай бұрын
"it has at all times acted in accordance with applicable law..." blah-blah-blah!
@DNADirekt2 ай бұрын
Und die Beamte gehen nicht in den Knast? Kotz!
@globalismoblackman3 ай бұрын
Did i hear Vitoil shady company since the 90' s just like Trafigura 😅😂🤣. Not surprised when these companies' names pop up with allegations of oil deal scandals.
@julion892 ай бұрын
Ecuador 😂 Russia, Nigeria, Iran and Iraq are the big leagues Venezuela isn't producing much oil so hard to know the opportunities there
@jiboboji1943 ай бұрын
American shameless hypocresy as usual.
@HiteshJetwaniTechtesh3 ай бұрын
7:15 "lobbying = bribery"
@Wpeter16113 ай бұрын
Poor dude, he did well. Sucks that the state has to get involved.
@PowerofMoney-ko8mu20k3 ай бұрын
🎉
@kcnl25223 ай бұрын
Lol you should be naive to think that you go and get 9 or 10digit gov contracts without greasing the wheel. Bribery at this level shall not be punished. Its not even a heinous crime, victimless.
@JebusHypocristosX3 ай бұрын
The history of the petroleum industry reads like a 150 year long terrorist crime spree.