The Golf Ball That Is Destroying The Sport

In this video, I describe the evolution of the golf ball and the notorious rise of Titlist's Pro-V1. How golf balls were designed in a specific way but it wasn't until the Pro-V1 which brought two characteristics which shaped modern-day golf balls. Power and Control. The innovation by Titleist has created a weapon which golfers are hitting the ball farther and farther. However, what seems like a good thing on its surface has actually brought an interesting debate to the golf world. Are Golf balls becoming too powerful? Since the 1980s, driving distance has increased substantially. Old golf courses are to designed to withstand this generational change. Par-5s are now becoming Par 3s. More land mass is having to be used and complete overhauls of golf courses are underway in order to accommodate this change. This begs the question, are golf balls becoming too powerful?
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[@PuttingGreens]

Thanks everyone for watching! If you want more content like this, hit the subscribe button! I enjoyed putting this together

[@jtshark_7630]

I’m sure it took you a LOT of effort 😂

[@kasebrotworst7279]

Are golfers at a tournament just randomly allowed to choose their own ball whatever they want or???? I don't understand. In Tennis germany, we have tournament balls, that are set by rules, we are not allowed to choose our own balls, that would be outrageous.

[@bigbobdasloth]

​@@kasebrotworst7279 in the state Golfers can choose from a list of approved golf balls to play with.

[@kasebrotworst7279]

??????

[@bigbobdasloth]

@kasebrotworst7279 Yes golfers get to choose their own golfballs in tournaments. Some people are actually fitted to golf balls.

[@mikejones-go8vz]

It’s funny how equipment and balls have improved but my game hasn’t 😬

[@PuttingGreens]

Same lol

[@britishrocklovingyank3491]

That is why this video is bullshit. If the video was true you would be scratch just by buying a new ball alone.

[@donaldfischer1958]

Aint that the truth…

[@chevy4x466]

All they do is fly into the woods more often. With drivers too long for weekend hackers, the poor hacker gets into too much trouble. When we grew up persimmon hit 220-230 for a decent player.

[@drmorcoch9338]

how about getting worse. i used to play below a hundred and now it seldom happens

[@hillbilly4christ638]

It is pretty simple, all you have to do to make a course play harder is create more obstacles. You can make a long shot dangerous by adding bunkers and sand traps. You can force professionals to be more accurate by narrowing the fairways and creating ruff areas in the middle and encroaching on key areas. When Jack Nicklaus first opened the Memorial, the players struggled with the difficulty of the course. Some people commented that perhaps Jack had built the course too hard for the players. This is the key, if you make a poorly placed shot expensive, you can force the players to use irons in place of woods and if the fairways are narrow enough they will have to play conservative golf.

[@darkh0st]

Course renovations addressing this specifically seem to be occurring more and more.

[@TerminalM193]

Couldn't agree more! Some of the most fun I've had was on courses that challenged the driver and 3w. Being in a bunker or super thick rough with over 100+ yards to the green or having close, low hanging trees is a nightmare and will quickly get you in the mindset of persevering accuracy over distance.

[@ericschroeder8932]

You nailed it. The PGA Tour scoring average since 1989 through 2023 is 71.

[@cleveland2022]

Bingo. Great post

[@user-not-found-_]

you cant design golf courses based on the performance of the top 150 people thats playing golf in this world. if youre going to make golf courses in a certain way that is going to “force professionals to be more accurate” what would that mean for an average golfer? if a course that is so difficult it forces pga pros to be a certain way then i sure as hell wint be able to play on that course. sports needs to appeal to the mass thats how it survives. Narrower fairway, bunkers and obstacles everywhere is going to sky rocket the entry barrier for beginner golfers and amateur golfers would turn away too.

[@nickmac1104]

I can see the negatives on increased driving distance, but 90% of the issues they’re having are with professional golfers. Average golfers, and even some amateurs, dream of hitting the long ball like that. Just not everyone can do it. Plus didn’t you hear what they said about Bubba? He took a HUGE risk taking an aggressive line, and it paid off. I think with the increased distance, you just have to more cleverly place the obstacles of the course.

[@captainmerica6142]

I’m fairly certain that athletes have drastically improved in every sport over the past 100 years and I’m sure they will continue to as our science and technology improves.

[@charlesbarry7479]

I'm 65 and playing any cheap ball from Wal Mart. For the recreational golfer, that's 90% of folks that play, distance is a myth. What's ruined the game is the golf industry's marketing plan that entices hackers to pay $50 for a dozen pro v's and over $500 for a Chinese manufactured driver. By the way, the woods along any golf hole are filled with pro v's hacked into the woods by the weekend duffer.

[@darylhoskins5696]

@@charlesbarry7479 Yup that’s where I got my Few Hundred Prov’s and every other Brand of Balls , Haven’t bought any in about 10 Years , Go out about 160 -180 yards turn right into woods and find Copious Amounts ! Not allergic to poison IVY . Get out first on course and don’t hold anybody up ! Give them to Family and Friends !

[@michaelplouffe6913]

Yes this is the pro’s but you have to look at the average player, is no more than 250 yards. If I remember correctly we have only gained 10 yards from this ball technology. So most of the great courses of the world are safe from the average player. 😊

[@cleveland2022]

😂😂😂 Exactly

[@lorenzell3104]

Golf is in no danger. Women and average golfers still are challenged by todays golfers. They still struggle with the average golf course. In fact, ladies and senior tees are common, which drastically shorten the course.

[@alanaasacatanddogrosamcdos5315]

Okay but then why change things for the 99.99999999% of players who are not on the men's pro tour?

[@user-ck9tb4fv2x]

Technology is power creeping the game. As people are improving the equipment all the time it's slowly adding yards to the avg golfers game. Between golf balls and clubs it's gonna reach a time where the avg golfer is able to replicate shots like this.

[@olehoiii]

You dont need to be a pro to drive it 300 yards, you need speed training and range time

[@wendull811]

​@olehoiii Young age helps alot too. You will find out what I mean in 35 years.

[@michaellees8185]

Im not sure about that mate. Golf clubs have limitations take drivers for example. If you watch a comparison video of a modern day driver and one from 10 years ago there is barely a difference in distance. There are regulations that stop the face producing too much ball speed and modern drivers are at that limit. I’ve got a feeling a lot of the recent gains in distance are down to the professional golfers focus on strength training

[@darylhoskins5696]

And Speed training ,Old ball pkayer ,Bat Speed not muscle ,some people can muscle but very few.

[@britishrocklovingyank3491]

Putting Greens, can you point on the doll where the Pro-V1 touched you. Things evolve and change. The desire to go back is never good and ruins things. The game of golf is not being destroyed by long drives.

[@PuttingGreens]

Lol fair points!

[@cleveland2022]

😂😂😂

[@raaaaaaaaaap]

bruh they can just make greens harder and bigger. a straight 300 yd drive is no different than a difficult 5 footer, as they both count as 1 stroke

[@miza6]

Tiger may have changed balls but he also changed the level of athleticism. He changed how players trained and built their bodies. Yes, technology on drivers and balls had absolutely added distance. But the golfers now are jacked compared to golfers of the past.

[@AndrewNeilBaird]

Prov1 is a bargain compared to the first ball used to win the British open golf championships, the feathery, which was a mini baseball , in today's money 150 years later , cost £50 per ball or 60 dollars. The prov1 costs 1/12 as much and goes twice as far , and lasts 300 times longer .

[@Jarl_Thidrandi]

I would love to see a classic golf league that uses equipment from Jack Niklaus' era. I find golf so much more interesting when the course has to be played as designed both in watching and when I play. I stopped using my driver and woods for a while because I couldn't hit them worth a damn, and I realized how much more I loved the game once I had to play the course instead of just trying to drive over it.

[@philhache6782]

Cope harder lol

[@randym9147]

Oh man, I so agree! I would to see a tourney or a season that required 50 year old equipment, could you imagine? I can remember finding Balata balls in the bushes and using them. Man, you could accidentally hook the shit out of them! And 50 year old clubs? No way. None of them will survive. There would be a bunch of dudes you've never hear of on the leader board.

[@LanceCampeau]

I'm using a Ping G425 Max driver and not enough is being said about the quality of *golf drivers* these days... I hit a 302 yard drive yesterday... flat terrain, no wind assist... just a solid, fast, center-of-face smack with a new/old stock Titleist ball (not a Pro V1).... At 50 years old, this isn't normal golf. These golf clubs are also playing a HUGE role in the problem.

[@cleveland2022]

So you would rather drive it 220? I just want to make sure that is what you are saying.

[@joeyclark3995]

Players these days are also speed training & increasing their swing speeds and ball speeds to unprecedented levels. Yes, the major contributor is the ball.

[@theshapeshifter232]

Why not just go back to wooden balls. The game has been defined according to this video on having better technology to make longer balls and now that some 80 year old jack ass or whoever is running the USGA decided that he wants to be nostalgic about golf and play as it was "intended". This is BS, no one wants to play with recalled balls except the guys making money off of changing things. Regulate the game to keep standards to what they are today and call it a day.

[@cleveland2022]

😂😂😂 Facts

[@bsmith4u2]

When Tiger joined the Tour, his driver was only 42.5" and had a steel shaft. He was still able to hit over 300 yards, Drivers now come standard with a 45" to 45.5" graphite shaft because each year every manufacturer wants to be able to say, "our club is 5 yeards longer this year".

[@HailSkatin-e2r]

That is true but the ball is seriously the biggest difference. The biggest change in drivers is more how forgiving the mid hits are, not too much distance on pure strikes.

[@stephenkaake7016]

the clubs hit the ball way further as well, my old driver can't even hit as far as my 3 wood today

[@RobertBarber-s5n]

the ball was designed to fit 400-460cc titanium drivers with light graphite shafts over 44 inches long. The big titanium head with graphite shaft is why the game got out of control, taking out the short hitters. It used to be the driver was the longest, heaviest, least forgiving, most side spinning club in the bag, so it was used sparingly by big hitters---- but a straight hitting shorter hitter could use it almost every hole....ie a Hale Irwin, Lee Trevino, Corey Pavin, Now the driver is easier to hit than a 3 wood.....and spins less. changing the ball is meant to cover up how the game was allowed to be radically changed, probably to screw up Tiger Woods and Mickelson......ruined David Duval's career.

[@David-yu9iz]

Narrow the fairways, increase the depth of rough and have smaller greens. Rather than sand bunkers, have areas around the green with deep grass as sand is not an impediment to Professional players.

[@mattj265]

It's not just the ball, clubs are maxed out as well but on tour why do they cut the fairways (faster than my clubs greens) so the ball rolls out 50 + yards? Leave everything as is but limit the length of the driver to the old 43.5" and maybe the size to 400cc (??) I started golf when persimmon drivers were still being used and my irons were blades, I have an old 3 iron thats 1.5" shorter than my current 5 iron. Today's game is bomb and gouge, the skill in golf is deteriorating.

[@stanmans]

Clubs are like cars. New designs every year. It’s a scam. Spending thousands of dollars for the amateur that just may save a stroke or 2 per round. Pros use the same paid for brands and millions in sponsorship to play CUSTOM designed clubs. Every year you’re told the new clubs are better and better but have they made you that much better other than making you a couple of pounds lighter by taking money out of your pocket instead of using that money to reduce your credit card debt? The newest clubs maybe could help a very few amateurs who are at their peak levels but will they really help the average amateur?? I kinda doubt it. So the great clubs you bought last year or a couple of years ago are now outdated and no good because this year we have a new and fantastic and shinier and more expensive set of clubs you need to shell out 1k plus for just for the set of irons including probably a 3 & 4 iron that amateurs should never use plus a 5k or 6k driver that adds 5 yards to your driver that carries the ball 10 yards deeper into the weeds. Guess what, it makes it harder to find that $4 titlist. . I have an old set of Callaway irons five through the pitching sandwich plus an old Callaway driver. I’ve tried new Set of irons at drivers and basically find absolute no difference in performance. I still have a few dozen Kirkland brand golf balls and they performed just as well for me as a Titleist. 2:53😅

[@oliverizzard8751]

limiting the technology for pro golfers is a no brainer ... there's no need for 7000 yard golf courses and we don't want to see them hit driver wedge every single hole. manufacturers can focus on the senior tour for advertising.

[@smartwater598]

Nah limiting makes golf less exciting

[@oliverizzard8751]

excitement was never the object of the game ... that's what sky-diving is for.

[@smartwater598]

@@oliverizzard8751 yeah tell that to new generation of kids who will not pick up less exciting sport golf is dead in the future

[@oliverizzard8751]

@@smartwater598 sure ... cause they can afford 500 dollar drivers and the green fees on golf courses that need way more land to accommodate the new 600 yard par 5s?

[@oliverizzard8751]

@@smartwater598 You need to understand there are places in Europe where the golf course is in town and surrounded by houses and roads, where every year there are events such as amateur golf competitions that used to attract the best young talents and crowds would show up to watch them play. Now the par 4s are ALL reachable and the best players stopped coming. The golf course has nowhere to grow, the crowds get smaller ... do you see where i'm going with this?

[@Handletaken4]

At 80mph swing speed the longest ball is not the ProV1, it's the Wilson Zip

[@drdarren666]

Anything above 6750yards is Pro-only territory. At a hcp of 2 the longer T’s just mean a hybrid or fairway wood into green, whereas pro’s are hitting 9 irons. Longer is not the solution.

[@captainmerica6142]

This is simply not true. I am a 2 and play around 7300 yards and am not hitting woods or hybrids on approach shots unless it’s a par 5.

[@reidr7288]

Need more golf content like yours. Reminds me of a lot of baseball videos

[@PuttingGreens]

Thanks!

[@fredtaylor9792]

Maybe I'm alone here but I always thought it was extremely cool that Golf is one of the extremely few sports where the average guy has the opportunity to play on the very spot his favorite player played. Changing courses erodes that history. That golfer lost the championship because of THAT bunker? Man, I'D like to try that exact bunker to see how i would do. I get to see the exact same perspective as Tiger woods and John Daley? Wow, what a neat experience.

[@cleveland2022]

Totally agree

[@juiceqc7716]

PG. The history aspect of this piece is pretty good. The somewhat sensationalised subsequent analysis significantly less so. Some of the comments below would attest to this. The example you cite is the increase in the length of Augusta National which amounts to 450 yards or 6.44 % total or 0.35 % per hole. This is from the tips. Very few people apart from Tour Pro's play from the tips. Moreover, there are a great many other causal agents in play including club technology and the size and strength of the players. Very few of these changes read across to the average golfer. I am one such average golfer. I am grateful for all the help that the equipment can give me.

[@PNW_Sportbike_Life]

I've been playing Pro v1 this year mostly, and I have noticed that they are in fact a very good and consistent golf ball. Great vid; very informative!

[@cleveland2022]

Callaway Chrome Tour is longer and straighter. I have played both and the Chrome Tour blows it away

[@lawrencesykkmon2064]

remember: golf was never promoted correctly

[@atfinthehouse8631]

Profits of golf courses razor thin….hahahahaha They make mega $$$$$$ Fees to players continue to climb. And driving players to play faster, rather than relaxed and having enjoyable time.

[@PuttingGreens]

Golf courses are incredibly capital intensive. Most courses don't make much money other than high-end country clubs. So many costs associated with running a Golf Course. But thanks for watching!

[@hanshuhta8007]

Limit the pros , not the amateur golfer

[@moritamayumi9218]

I just subscribed! This video is AMAZING!! Keep up the good work!

[@PuttingGreens]

Thank you so much!!

[@RobertBarber-s5n]

nothing felt like a 100 compression Titleist in the late 70s, early 1980s

[@oneswiftguy]

Maybe the downfall to professional golf... if I can claim a 300 yard carry, give me that ball. The longer the better.

[@robboyle18]

Really good and informative video. Love the history too. I grew up in the wound ball era where balls used to cut with bad swings. They had more feel and you could spin them easier.

[@smartwater598]

Nah stop limiting tech ball rollback will ruin golf

[@cleveland2022]

100%

[@MichaelEnright-gk6yc]

Why not just have pro balls that can go a max of 300 yds. But one pro back in the 1970's John Lister from New Zealand played on the PGA tour and had an average driving distance of 405 yards that was published in golf digest when Nicklaus's average was 305 yards. Lister only one a few tournaments obviously he wasn't as good at the short game . But Lister is still around and was an early Mentor to Lydia Ko. Long drivers in the long driving competitions can consistantly hit 400yd plus drives but can't play high level golf on the pga. We can just accept lower scores and let technology keep making the weekend golfers life easier bringing more people to the game and older players like me competitive and enjoying golf a very difficult game. Or just be mean and make a very difficult sport harder making it less attractive to your average golfer. To be fair the vast majority of weekend golfer can't compress the balls pro's use to make them fly thosr incredible distances. So making a ruling for dialling back the distance golf balls can go is not good for golf. It would be like saying to Usain Bolt ditch the spikes and rubber tracks and just use your trainers because you are to fast

[@Ericka-kl4hb]

No golfer in history averaged over 300yds over an entire season until John Daly... whatever golf digest you read was blatantly lying to you...

[@lukiedadukieable]

Abusing drive distance is the most electrifying aspect of golf to me

[@Trueworg]

Nice video! Few small nitpicks, ends a little abruptly, slight echo in the narration. Really well edited though, surprised the channel is so new. Looking forward to many more!

[@PuttingGreens]

Noted!

[@naMnivraM]

Remember what Woods did to Augusta in 97'. Pre Pro V1 era. He hits wedges and 9i into 11. The players became athletes. 70s golf had Brian Barnes with a pipe in his mouth and lots of guys were heavy. When Gary Player lifted weights back the 60s they told him it was detrimental to a golf swing. Woods put that to rest. All the Tour guys work out now and do speed training. I know the average tour distance is bigger, but the guys swing harder too. It's the ball AND the athletes that play golf. Look at Bryson... He went next level speed training. Showed what's possible

[@GaleRauschenberger]

The USGA needs to make sure that no further ball changes take place or they will drive many golf courses out of business.

[@cleveland2022]

Agree the current ball standards and driver standards are fine

[@thebigleone1066]

Here is the problem. As a kid in the late 1960’s, my buddies and I would walk the course and be done in 3 hours. The courses were shorter and a 250 yard drive was huge. Now courses are longer, take more maintenance which makes the game more expensive and the time to play is 4 hours on a good day. It seems like everything was better back then. Sorry rosebuds, but true imo.

[@wilson2455]

Tiger Woods was turning par 5's into 3's & par 4's into 2's & 3's (shooting 14 - 16 under) through sheer power & skill.

[@Ericka-kl4hb]

How the hell do you have John Daly with a 260yd average drive? He was literally the first golfer in history to average over 300yds for an entire season. It took 8 years for someone else to join him in the 300 club...

[@KDG702]

In my opinion, from a perspective of one who works in golf, the equipment shouldn't matter and in my opinion isn't the biggest "problem". If anything, it just serves as incentive for courses to adapt and evolve. All the top courses in the world are in one way or another constantly trying to improve their course and maintain/improve challenges. The courses where the pros play all have insane amounts of data they use to keep their courses a challenge. The best golfers in the world will always be good no matter what you put in their hands. Changing the balls won't do anything meaningful.

[@rustyturner431]

Errata: "Never seen before" on Augusta's 13th...NOT SO!! I was there in 1965 and watched Jack Nicklaus hit a similar shot all 4 days, leaving a mid-iron approach. For the tournament, Jack dominated the par-5s and won going away, with a then-record -17. And he did this with a persimmon driver and wound balls! Never say "never".

[@Itsallabouttheperformance]

There’s no golf ball that’ll make hitting a 45 yard shot over water to a tight pin location easy

[@craiginnh8277]

You neglected to say why Tiger has switched to Bridgestone, although I'm sure money has something to do with it.

[@Northeastern-Golfer1952]

He didn’t.. Nike never made golf balls. Nike balls were made by Bridgestone and rebranded.

[@craiginnh8277]

@@Northeastern-Golfer1952 I didn't know that. Thanks.

[@Divedown_25]

ProV1 has been out now for 20 years, I think that the Driver technology and players beefing up from 2003 and forward is the main reason for the length increase after ProV1 came out and made its mark. .

[@FilterYT]

Love the swing at 3:24, is this someone famous?

[@ajankowski2]

Instead of continuing to lengthen the course, why not create hazards between 280 and 350 yards? Add bunkers, or water hazards - plant vegetation and mark it off as a hazard - force the players to 'lay-up' and play it the old traditional way.

[@cleveland2022]

Bingo exactly

[@Lance.West4]

These courses make their money from the avrage golfer. Which realistically might drive 250. So no, this won't make golf suffer.

[@Kyle-u8e]

Limiting golf balls is a disaster. Maybe the antimatter drive that will allow us to explore Interstellar space will be invented by golfers trying to increase their drives

[@phillipstewart2031]

Bryson shouldve been there instead of rory

[@darrell3118]

When the USGA set up courses slow, narrow and wet , instead of hard and fast where he ball runs out another 20-70 yards , then talk to me about ball distance! Manicured golf courses to the finest , isnt a test of golf , Have them come play some of the Burnt out wind blown dry out hard pan patchy fairways of Kansas courses, and see how that distance works . Hit a cump of grass in the fairway and it goes off into no mans land , see how they recover that mess of a shot ! I said over 25 years ago if the USGA didnt stop the size of the driver at 330CC we would see major problems down the road , and now we are seeing it ! These guys are finely tuned athletes and the swing has become perfected and they are generating club head speeds that a normal golfer will never achieve. AND changing one item of equipment for everyone you will see many old guys quit the game , I am 63 and have lost a ton of distance in my 49 years of playing ( only hit it 220-230 now ) and moved up to the senior tees, and if the ball I have to use only allows me to hit is 180-190 fuck that I will quit and find something else to do, as will tens of thousands of seniors , NOW THATS GROWING THE GAME USGA & the POS PGA ! !!!!!!!

[@benwhitten6750]

You will be very successful

[@PuttingGreens]

Thanks man!

[@jamesthomson9039]

I agree 100% with this video content, These days people can pound the absoloute crap out of a Ball that it really does go out of sight, and totally stable flight, i used to hit Bridgestone 330 Black balls 330 Metres on the fly. And averaged 350-360 metres Drives , one time we were all looking for a ball 350m from the tee and after 5 mins found it well over 410m from the tee.... just need to right speed/club/wind/topspin/ground conditions

[@ericschroeder8932]

Remind the USGA the tour scoring average has been 71 since 1989, through 2024. Average drive up, scoring average same. Even Gronk know golf ball not impacting scoring!!!

[@Robert-we9jp]

The relatively wide open courses (like Torrey Pines) are the ones that have to add the most length. Tight, narrow courses (like my high school course, Riviera, in Pacific Palisades, CA) remain tough as long as the shape of the edge of the rough is adjusted to make the driving areas and other shot areas difficult to hit. In the case of Riviera, other hazards keep it tough. Unfortunately, heavy rough (unnecessary at Riviera) makes it more difficult for the members or other daily players who aren't as accurate. It is partly a battle between setting up a course to be difficult for pros and not too difficult for regular players or tourist guests. If the courses were set up properly for pros extra length wouldn't be as necessary. Some added length would often be good, particularly on short holes, but nor on every hole - maybe half of them or less. Most greenskeepers won't set the course up like that though (due to member or management pressure?) which is much (but not all) of the problem.

[@davidrhodes6016]

If this video was made in 1923, every word spoken could have been spoken up to the 1923 golf ball. Meaning this: Stop with the doom and gloom about golf ball tech as it exists today. Is it better today? Yes, of course it is and 10's of millions of golfers are thankful for it. Back when I started playing a golf ball could only be used for a few holes and less if you miss hit it. (remember the big cuts the covers they used to get in them). Today, if I don't lose a golf ball, I can use it for a dozen rounds. I like it the way it is and I can't wait for it to get even better. Stop it! with the doom and gloom that golf is finished if we don't make golf balls shitty again. That's pretty crappy (pun intended) marketing and arguments if you ask me. "Make Golf Balls Shitty Again"? MGBSA! Really get you head out of your a$$.

[@superfly1187]

Could they adjust the pro driver size though too? Drop it from 460cc to 440cc would help as well as make the maximum pro length driver 44in long. These rollbacks would be as effective. They could also make the ball bigger by 10% and that would do it too.

[@dancollier3523]

Superb information brother

[@dscwac396]

Think they need to go back to woods, kind of like what the Major League baseball does where you can use metal bats in college but once you go to the pros you have to switch the wood.

[@rickherring2452]

This problem only is for PGA pros not the average golfer. Just give PGA pros a dumb down ball and be done with it. Don’t screw with 20 handicappers. So to answer the question, no players aren’t hitting the ball too far. The pros are but not the average player.

[@benwhitten6750]

Well done 😮😮

[@PorkBellyFutures]

Not true. This ball spins more. Pros are fitter and stronger, fairways slicker, drivers better, teaching and training better. Distance isn't everything or these long driving comp winners would lead the PGA

[@sirmichaelhunt1087]

It's not just a ball that's causing players to hit further. Club technology is also advancing to let players hit further. Not to mention, the swing has also fundamentally changed and players are figuring out how to hit the ball even further.

[@SoopaCoopa]

Great channel and animations. Keep it up!

[@hb-ze4ug]

After 2000, whoever says you'll gain 30 more yds with this ball or this other club, they're flagrantly lying to you. They're all regulated to work and fly just that much! But nevertheless, they'll argue otherwise to stay in the market

[@jbwheeler]

Why don't they make greens smaller, add more hazards, make fairways skinnier for tournament courses. Reward accuracy over distance.

[@bakervinci163]

I loved the gotta percha balls. I wish we would go back to them

[@lukevander3683]

Let the game evolve. Rip up the courses.

[@RK831]

The general level of play is still the same despite advancements in technology, even the ball.

[@08turboSS]

Hmmm, Jack/The Golden Bear won a long drive contest at the Masters in the late 60's with a drive of 342. He averaged 307. So its time to dial back the equipment on tour players, really it is. Theyre ruining the game as if all this other crap hasnt already. They need drivers under 225cc and no de lofting of irons and low compression balls. Ball speeds need to be under 155 and driver speeds under 120.

[@dearleaderlorca]

Probably 95% of regular golfers should not use a Pro V1 ever. They dont have the club speed to make it worthwhile.

[@cleveland2022]

No the Course set up is what is ruining golf and the easy courses they play is ruining golf. And the nauseating Homer, paid off announcers are ruining golf. In 2001 Tiger Woods drove it 330 yards on 18 on Sunday at the Masters. There arent many golfers 23 years later that can do that. Winning score this year's US Open was only 5 under par. Obviously all that alleged distance didnt matter. Its 100% course setup

[@mikram2613]

1991 John Daly was hitting 375

[@1shotkyle442]

They will never change the equipment of course only the ball 😂.

[@michaelsmoot5200]

BS

[@randym9147]

Baseball was better with steroids, tho, the parks never changed. Golf could endure this too. I miss the Daly and Watson era. That was fun!

[@user-kc4bs5qf6t]

Golf is all about "your" balls

[@weldon9254]

You can never, I repeat, NEVER hit a golf ball too far.

[@Quack_attack_]

I golfed for several years as a kid then quit playing for over 12 years until just last summer my little brother got into golf which got me and my dad back into it , I'm not great but not horrible either idk probably a little better than bogey but not quite a scratch golfer and I'm driving it 300 yards regularly....315 is my longest and idk where this came from I've never driven it this straight and this far in my life !! Must be the Taylor made balls im using

[@erichansen3641]

The Pro-V1 golf ball is not a long ball off the tee or off the fairway. It has good spin, but average distance. Velocity is a better distance ball, but lacks spin to hold on the green.

[@ericschroeder8932]

@@erichansen3641 The left dash is their longest ball.

[@art333-dg8dd]

not true . when examined 12 prov1 balls against other 12 balls , prov1 had regularly 3 out of 12 prov1 were unbalanced wher other balls were 90% all 12 round

[@syreplays5079]

Amazing how all this talk completely ignores how much more we know about the golf swing and how much more athletic these pros are.

[@aidenhanchett]

Put par 3 courses into the tour and leave everything up to skill

[@WeimaranersAreTheBest]

Hate the x Too spinny Off tee I’ve never hit it so short and right

[@rickherring2452]

I quit the usga over this issue. Penalize me because Rory hits it too far! Great idea!

[@GreenDistantStar]

Unless the courses you play are where pro tournaments are played, this is a non-issue. The modern ball has allowed the average player to perform much better than in previous eras. Are you overpowering your course and humbling the par 5s, making the course staff worry about it? Or have modern balls and clubs simply made the game a bit more fun?

[@stevecourtois3741]

saying that a golf ball is destroying the sport is one of the dumbest things i have read in a while . get out of the past and get into the future .

[@Kletusthetightlippedacademic]

Why do you care? The scores are irrelevant. Everyone uses the same kit in the same way. The guys are immensely talented and work really hard. There is no point here.

[@user-wl7gy3df7c]

Balls need to be rolled back to wound , drivers need to be rolled back to smaller more solid heads with graphite shafts banned. A player needs to be able to choose a set of clubs the like the look of and go play , not have to piss around with fittings

[@chYnaRIP]

enforce strict OB rules, make the rough absolutely penal, force hazards to be a stroke, make these golfers be accurate. time and time again there are ways to make golf courses tougher. not longer, tougher.

[@michaellancaster7092]

No the real change is players. Just like every other sport, players are just getting better and stronger.

[@bakervinci163]

The first kid on my son’s high school golf team drives an average 370 yards and he has no junior ranking. He can play, but I suspect there are a lot of kids that can hit it this far

[@ericschroeder8932]

@@bakervinci163 he should be at least a +2,or +3. What is he?

[@litey9156]

Make rough longer and fairways narrower, then pros cant just hit it anywhere as fast as they possibly can, or pros all have to use a specific conforming driver (ie wood bats in pro baseball) make them use a smaller driver head/shorter length.

[@WanderingKakapo]

So you use No.13 a par 5 for your example, but you ignore the 2 par 4s before and par 3 after which have chewed up big hitters today and the past. The assumption that a ball has ruined the game is laughable, you can make courses really hard without making them really long, which they only do a few times in the year because sometimes even the long hitters have a bad week.

[@christabor8662]

The game is better and less boring now so… just don’t increase anything from here. That’s it …