The Gospel of J. Edgar Hoover: How the FBI Aided and Abetted the Rise of White Christian Nationalism

[@UCTVInsight]

Check out "Cops, Capitalism, and the War on Black Life" here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hoKbZ4KdodF2Z5Y

[@kodiekulp]

This was wonderful. White supremacy must be dismantled. And as a straight white male in America , that's part of my job. Really, incredible presentation.

[@brlopwn]

This is awesome. Yes, we need to see it as our job, our duty.

[@AffirmativeArtsOnTheRoad]

Your words here, sir, are a balm to my soul. I.thank you for your awareness and your courageous commitment to a truth that makes justice, the true foundation of peace, possible.

[@eatfrenchtoast]

You're probably German or Irish American. "White" is a 1982 style buzz word

[@agridulce3532]

White supremacy hurts everyone, including White People who are not wealthy, a woman, or different and deviates from the norm.

[@CoachMikeD]

"History is not always supposed to Comfort us, at times it should Unsettle us." -Lerone Martin

[@1Whipperin]

The white or black government sponsored religious organizations masquerade as the Church and support government political violence called war. Jesus Christ taught pacifism and His disciples and early Church practiced pacifism.

[@karenloveland1428]

Yes, Dr. King is seen as an American hero by many, but who remembers the visceral opposition that his holiday faced. Truth in history is so important.

[@RadicalCaveman]

More importantly, the visceral opposition that his advocacy and action faced while he lived

[@catherinemckinney4091]

I am 72 years old and have known this for over 50 years. The irony is youth is just learning this. Not enough emphasis on knowledge.

[@christopherc8563]

That's fascinating considering it seems like it's older people who have a problem with this kind of stuff being taught to the youth. Because it's Un American or w.e.

[@qkranarchist3015]

Well, youth are by definition young and learning. They are for the most part principled and by nature resist fascism and oppression. Our duty is to them because they are more free than any generation.

[@Wulf82]

​@@christopherc8563Hard to be a so called Wt American Baby-boomer & not also be successfully brainwashed or racist

[@hemi5.7awdpursuit5]

It just reminder video. This has already been linked decades ago

[@prometheus200]

Knowledge kinder works like that😊, you learn it when you find it, just like when you learnt it in your youth days😊

[@jackiejohnson887]

Thanks, for unveiling more truths about life in America.

[@grayj7441]

Study the past, build a better future.

[@justelokossou2553]

Excellent presentation. Will buy the book. Thank you!

[@Jailon.mosley33]

I'm so happy to hear someone other than me speak the truth about Hoover to me he was one of the most racist human beings ever @ seriously 😳 Clinton Smith

[@actionsub]

As one who had Dr. Martin as a professor (he also taught at St. Louis' Eden Seminary during his days at Wash U), it was good to hear him teach again. I've been wanting to read the book in question since he is no slouch when it comes to historical research.

[@presterjohn1697]

Just so were clear, White Christian Nationalism was already a fully developed self-fueling machine before the FBI was formed. The FBI chose to infiltrate these groups in order to prevent them from taking positions against private capital, the true power brokers in the US. It had nothing to do with faith. In the late 19th and early 20th century Christian groups across the country turned to socialism and fought against the destructive rise of industrial capitalism which predated upon workers, the environment and the social infrastructure of the family.

[@tomnanD3]

I've always wondered why the FBI turns a blind eye toward violations of the EC and preachers who practice politics from the pulpit.

[@adamdavis2035]

Why did they turn a blind eye to Hillary's Benghazi and e-mail crimes, or Obama's illegal surveillance of Trump campaign, but unrelentlessly went after Trump through his entire first term?? They are crooked. They have become political. I'm sure you were wondering about that too, right??

[@thelastshallbefirst6531]

Thank you for voicing understanding to a thought i have wrestled with for sometime. This topic requires more indepth research.

[@InternationalMysteries360]

Fantastic talk!

[@JRey-re9rl]

Absolutely despicable. This is America’s true history.

[@phillylifer]

Holy moly this is gold

[@williambranch4283]

FBI was godless from the start.

[@drivinsouth651]

It seems like the more godlike they are the more evil they are, weird! Could it be, SATAN?!?!? The Holy Bible clearly states that God, Jehovah El Elohim Yahweh said, "I form the light and create darkness: I make peace and create evil: I, the LORD, do all these things." Isaiah 45:7 Shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it? Amos 3:6 And he is proud of the evil that he creates. Behold, I will bring evil upon the house of Jeroboam and will cut off from Jeroboam him that pisseth against the wall. 1 Kings 14:10 Behold, this evil is of the LORD. 2 Kings 6:33 Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Behold, I am bringing such evil upon Jerusalem and Judah, that whosoever heareth of it, both his ears shall tingle. 2 Kings 21:12 Thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will bring evil upon this place, and upon the inhabitants thereof, even all the curses that are written in the book. 2 Chronicles 34:24 All the evil that the LORD had brought upon him Job 42:11 The Lord ... will bring evil. Isaiah 31:1-2 I will bring evil from the north and great destruction. Jeremiah 4:6 I will bring evil upon these people, even the fruit of their thoughts. Jeremiah 6:19 I will bring evil upon them, which they shall not be able to escape; though they shall cry unto me, I will not hearken unto them. Jeremiah 11:11 Thus saith the LORD; Behold, I frame evil against you. Jeremiah 18:11 I will bring evil upon this place; whosoever heareth, his ears shall tingle. Jeremiah 19:3 I will bring evil upon them. Jeremiah 23:12 For thus saith the LORD ... I have brought all this great evil upon this people. Jeremiah 32:42 Judah will hear all the evil which I purpose to do unto them. Jeremiah 36:3 None of them shall remain or escape from the evil that I will bring upon them. Jeremiah 42:17 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Ye have seen all the evil I have brought upon Jerusalem. Jeremiah 44:2 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Behold, I will set my face against you for evil. Jeremiah 44:11 I will watch over them for evil and not for good. Jeremiah 44:27 I will bring evil upon all flesh, saith the LORD. Jeremiah 45:5 I will send the sword after them till I have consumed them. Jeremiah 49:37 Out of the mouth of the Highest proceedeth not good and evil? Lamentations 3:38 I will set my eyes upon them for evil and not for good. Amos 9:4 The inhabitant of Maroth waited carefully for good: but evil came down from the LORD. Micah 1:12 Behold, against this family, do I devise an evil. Micah 2:3 Things the Bible says that God has done: The LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon... And there was a great cry in Egypt; for there was not a house where there was not one dead. Exodus 12:29-30 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people, and many people of Israel died. Numbers 21:6 Thus saith the LORD of hosts ... Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. 1 Samuel 15:2-3 Behold, O LORD, and consider to whom thou hast done this. Shall the women eat their fruit and children of a span long? Shall the priest and the prophet be slain in the sanctuary of the Lord? The young and the old lie on the ground in the streets: my virgins and my young men are fallen by the sword; thou hast slain them in the day of thine anger; thou hast killed and not pitied. Lam.2:20-21 Things the Bible says God plans to do in the future: I also will do this unto you; I will even appoint over you terror, consumption, and the burning ague, that shall consume the eyes, and cause sorrow of heart: and ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it. Lev.26:16 And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters. Deuteronomy 28:53 And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine. Isaiah 49:26 Therefore will I also deal in fury: mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity: and though they cry in mine ears with a loud voice, yet will I not hear them. Ezekiel 8:18 Behold, I am against thee, saith the LORD of hosts; I will discover thy skirts upon thy face, and I will shew the nations thy nakedness, and the kingdoms thy shame. And I will cast abominable filth upon thee, and make thee vile. Nah.3:5-6 Behold, I will corrupt your seed and spread dung upon your faces. Malachi 2:3 As an example to parents everywhere and to save the world (from Himself), God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten, Perfect and innocent Son, Jesus, to be tortured and killed as a ritual blood sacrifice; to appease Himself so that He could forgive us for the sin, He originally condemned us to in the 1st place. John 3: 16 Thank you. As you all know, you just can't believe everything you see and hear, can you? Now, if you'll excuse me, I must be on my way... ~Jimi Hendrix Excerpt from Exp Axis: Bold as Love

[@thefonzies6895]

Like everything they start. They are devil even the xtianity they created was Godless. Ppl like Christopher Columbus king Leopold didn't give a damn about Jesus or his teachings. They used God to colonize

[@MrDarkElement]

I am not Israel or any Abraham/Brahman cult.

[@williambranch4283]

@@MrDarkElement FBI founded by great nephew of Napoleon. Are you French?

[@MrDarkElement]

@@williambranch4283My name is in all languages of the Earth...Red... and a portion of the Earth...the oldest capital of Jordan misspelled and related to the Ancients....Akeru. Drop the plural and my name is everlasting. In Hebrew it is Admon which is Adam/Atom/Atum and a aristocratic 5 letter Roman name. All 3 of my names end in S and each name has 5 letters. Your corveture writing is a result of a nationwide handwriting contest I won in 1959 and was certified. My middle name is Gaul and represents the Chata Indian Nation Mississipian Culture of which my Great, greatgrandfather was trying to save before the French invasion. He diverted the proceedings to View Carre. I am American Indian Red skin without a doubt Anisazi.

[@classiql]

Big up to Ed McMahon for having conviction.

[@patfauntroy976]

Wow! I have to order the book. I had no clue!

[@babagalacticus]

of course not; you were NEVER supposed to know this, but this is ACTUAL american history as opposed to the pablum that is usually served up to the citizenry. HOOVER was not only an anti-semitic white supremacist but a (DEEPLY) repressed homosexual & cross dresser; in other words clinically PSYCHIATRIC. and THIS chap ran the amerikkkan surveillance state for DECADES, often using it against AMERICAN presidents, senators & businessmen as a tool of blackmail, which is how he maintained his vise-like grip on his powerful position for so long. really, he was somewhat PSYCHOTIC. the irony of him having attended an institution named "GEORGE WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY" is not to be overlooked either.

[@patfauntroy976]

Well, I'm on part 3 of the book. Who would have thought. I'm speechless. I thought the FBI was about fighting crime not using Christianity for its own purposes. A must read.

[@FranklintheD]

Cant wait to read the book. Would love to see you as a cspan guest

[@kellyanquoe]

That was fantastic . Thank you!

[@Mach7RadioIntercepts]

31:12 Preachers were ranting about a "civilization in peril" in 1962. That is a cornerstone of fascism, something loudly repeated _today_.

[@kloa4219]

they always complain about the end times lol

[@m.jenkins8503]

We still are

[@m.jenkins8503]

​@@kloa4219not complaining, just pointing out

[@christopherc8563]

Shouldn't be surprising considering many of the ideas hitler promoted he got from us americans. Laws segregating n discriminating legally committing genocide to steal land etc etc etc etc We've always been a proto-fascist country

[@dianewood3766]

Happy to see this this Sunday Morning. Excellent presentation. Will buy the book and share it's contents. Thank you!

[@psycoticdew7]

Great talk!! Thank you!

[@fredsimmons2793]

Hoovers venomus assault of Kings character in such a personal way by calling King a beast and abomination,stems from to a large degree from Hoover being a closeted homosexual .GOOD work in opening this door ,a direct path to the belly of the Beast.The odor coming from this chamber is overwhelming.

[@g.versao9181]

We got cointelpro but half the country is literally still flying the rebel flag

[@adamdavis2035]

Half the country???? No, no. Not even close to true.

[@karenl7786]

​@@adamdavis2035a really disturbingly large portion for sure

[@Wulf82]

​@@adamdavis2035Ok so we will narrow it down to how many Wt Americans in particular are successfully brainwashed or softcore or hardcore racist in 2024?

[@bassman777]

​@adamdavis2035 I think versao9181 is using "flying the rebel flag" as meaning "supports Trump and conservatives".

[@adamdavis2035]

@bassman777 Almost undoubtedly.... But, just the belief, or mind-set that has to be behind making a statement like that.... It's mind-numbingly inconceivable that that degree of willful ignorance could conceptually exist outside the boundaries of fiction.

[@southernphunk]

I don’t understand why is Hoover’s name still on the damn building 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@runoz2839]

frfr!!! ty, I'm not ALONE on that 🙌🎯💯💥👍🏽🙏‼️

[@drivinsouth651]

There is only one logical answer as to why...

[@runoz2839]

​@@drivinsouth651 and that is 🤨

[@drivinsouth651]

@@runoz2839 The government has no problem with Hoover; why should they? They are fascist oligarchs! Trump is Hitler and the Confederacy all rolled into one fascist pig. You should know your government is evil and always have been. C`est la vie!

[@drivinsouth651]

@@runoz2839 Damn,my comment was censored super fast; apparently I`m not allowed to say why. It`s not me; it is "The Man!" And The Man is evil! Sorry! What we really need is some Democratic Karl Marx communism; that would fix `em! Introduction to Marxism - Richard D Wolff: kzbin.info/www/bejne/imq6mZaZqtOel5Y

[@Sci-Fi_Fan296]

This was good! Very interesting.

[@jimbob5848]

Excellent. Thanks for the production. The history he shares is, of course, vitally important today as the future is worked out.

[@jcreajr]

Great show. Thank you for the scholarship in this talk.

[@vankzikhali]

This is mind blowing and am not surprised and I always had my suspicions

[@alexrediger2099]

Got the book. Reading it right now.

[@bernardhenderson1146]

The shame what has happened to people in this Country

[@CoachMikeD]

Fascinating

[@andywinger4197]

There was a TV show in the 1960's titled "The FBI". It was popular and showed the FBI in a very positive light. I read that J. Edgar Hoover had more than a little influence on that TV show. It was a form of propaganda.

[@actionsub]

And then the irony of Efrem Zimbalist Jr. converting to evangelical Christianity a few years after the show ended!

[@drivinsouth651]

As Hoover fire bombs civilians and murders JFK, MLK, Hendrix, Morrison, Joplin, and anyone else he didn`t like...

[@randomthgt7807]

That’s not the only entertainment product that military and intelligence agencies have their hand in, even now…

[@drivinsouth651]

@@randomthgt7807 LOL; good one! Seriously though, everything in everything is controlled by the government; there is nothing new that doesn`t conform. We're already living in a fascist state and nobody even notices, lol! They think that someone like Trump cares, God will protect us, or voting makes a difference, lol! Even now...

[@christopherc8563]

It's the same thing with any movie you see with military equipment in it.The military allows them to use the equipment for free in order to have creative control.Over the way the u s military is shown. That kind of access in how the FB.I works to make it real would have given hoover the same control. This playbook was developed during the world wars Hollywood making propaganda for the government

[@suzannejenkins210]

I’m beginning to realize that

[@michaels.5778]

Now swap white Christian nationalism with "white supremacy" and you'll understand.

[@andywinger4197]

I've been meaning to read more about J. Edgar Hoover. I know he was an interesting character of history. From previous reading, he seems to have been a narcissistic sociopath. I ordered this book. I'm an atheist who listens to Christian radio. 40 years ago I used to watch the televangelists. I'm fascinated by the herding of humans.

[@drivinsouth651]

That`s kind of creepy, man. I`m fascinated by how ALL Arahamic faiths all worship the same evil god, Yahweh: THE EVIL ONE; THE DEVIL! The Holy Bible clearly states that God, Jehovah El Elohim Yahweh said, "I form the light and create darkness: I make peace and create evil: I, the LORD, do all these things." Isaiah 45:7 Shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it? Amos 3:6 And he is proud of the evil that he creates. Behold, I will bring evil upon the house of Jeroboam and will cut off from Jeroboam him that pisseth against the wall. 1 Kings 14:10 Behold, this evil is of the LORD. 2 Kings 6:33 Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Behold, I am bringing such evil upon Jerusalem and Judah, that whosoever heareth of it, both his ears shall tingle. 2 Kings 21:12 Thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will bring evil upon this place, and upon the inhabitants thereof, even all the curses that are written in the book. 2 Chronicles 34:24 All the evil that the LORD had brought upon him Job 42:11 The Lord ... will bring evil. Isaiah 31:1-2 I will bring evil from the north and great destruction. Jeremiah 4:6 I will bring evil upon these people, even the fruit of their thoughts. Jeremiah 6:19 I will bring evil upon them, which they shall not be able to escape; though they shall cry unto me, I will not hearken unto them. Jeremiah 11:11 Thus saith the LORD; Behold, I frame evil against you. Jeremiah 18:11 I will bring evil upon this place; whosoever heareth, his ears shall tingle. Jeremiah 19:3 I will bring evil upon them. Jeremiah 23:12 For thus saith the LORD ... I have brought all this great evil upon this people. Jeremiah 32:42 Judah will hear all the evil which I purpose to do unto them. Jeremiah 36:3 None of them shall remain or escape from the evil that I will bring upon them. Jeremiah 42:17 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Ye have seen all the evil I have brought upon Jerusalem. Jeremiah 44:2 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Behold, I will set my face against you for evil. Jeremiah 44:11 I will watch over them for evil and not for good. Jeremiah 44:27 I will bring evil upon all flesh, saith the LORD. Jeremiah 45:5 I will send the sword after them till I have consumed them. Jeremiah 49:37 Out of the mouth of the Highest proceedeth not good and evil? Lamentations 3:38 I will set my eyes upon them for evil and not for good. Amos 9:4 The inhabitant of Maroth waited carefully for good: but evil came down from the LORD. Micah 1:12 Behold, against this family, do I devise an evil. Micah 2:3 Things the Bible says that God has done: The LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon... And there was a great cry in Egypt; for there was not a house where there was not one dead. Exodus 12:29-30 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people, and many people of Israel died. Numbers 21:6 Thus saith the LORD of hosts ... Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. 1 Samuel 15:2-3 Behold, O LORD, and consider to whom thou hast done this. Shall the women eat their fruit and children of a span long? Shall the priest and the prophet be slain in the sanctuary of the Lord? The young and the old lie on the ground in the streets: my virgins and my young men are fallen by the sword; thou hast slain them in the day of thine anger; thou hast killed and not pitied. Lam.2:20-21 Things the Bible says God plans to do in the future: I also will do this unto you; I will even appoint over you terror, consumption, and the burning ague, that shall consume the eyes, and cause sorrow of heart: and ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it. Lev.26:16 And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters. Deuteronomy 28:53 And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine. Isaiah 49:26 Therefore will I also deal in fury: mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity: and though they cry in mine ears with a loud voice, yet will I not hear them. Ezekiel 8:18 Behold, I am against thee, saith the LORD of hosts; I will discover thy skirts upon thy face, and I will shew the nations thy nakedness, and the kingdoms thy shame. And I will cast abominable filth upon thee, and make thee vile. Nah.3:5-6 Behold, I will corrupt your seed and spread dung upon your faces. Malachi 2:3 As an example to parents everywhere and to save the world (from Himself), God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten. Perfect and innocent Son, Jesus, to be tortured and killed as a ritual blood sacrifice; to appease Himself so that He could forgive us for the sin, He originally condemned us to in the 1st place. John 3: 16 Thank you. As you all know, you just can't believe everything you see and hear, can you? Now, if you'll excuse me, I must be on my way... ~Jimi Hendrix Excerpt from Exp Axis: Bold as Love

[@andywinger4197]

@@drivinsouth651 I'll take a Jimi Hendrix quote over anything in the bible.

[@drivinsouth651]

@@andywinger4197 You got that right! Praise Jimi! He died because he stuck it to "The Man!" Try and imagine what Hoover was thinking when he was listening to this, lol! kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWSUap6HlKx-ncU

[@drivinsouth651]

@@andywinger4197 I concur and I`m sorry, I spelt Buybull wrong. Peace & love!

[@andywinger4197]

@@drivinsouth651 😅

[@joyandrews3804]

Jesus said, ‘ he who lives by the sword shall die by the sword’. He didn’t send his disciples out as soldiers.

[@Akolgo_islam]

This is correct, Jesus preached total non-violence to the Jews. Only in the gospel of Luke (largely considered the least reliable of the gospels) does Jesus say to buy a sword. But in earlier manuscripts the word sword in that verse is actually transcribed as ‘sandals’

[@drivinsouth651]

@@Akolgo_islam Right, but Revelations in the Buybull clearly states that Jesus will come back on a pale horse with a sword sticking out of his mouth so he can chop up sinners, lol! My rule about the Buybull is to remember Proverbs 14:15 The simple believeth every word, but the prudent man looketh well to his going. Or don`t believe everything you see and hear or the things in ye Buybull ain`t necessarily so! No shit, lol! Thats why I call it the Buybull because you gotta buy some bull shit to believe this nonsense! I blame the Buybull and Project 2025 on the Roman Emperor Constantine for compiling them both at the 1st Council of Nicea in 325 AD. The last time they implemented Project 2025 to my knowledge was in Germany in 1933, and we lost a lot of our own people and had to kill most Nazis to end that reign of terror!

[@Akolgo_islam]

@@drivinsouth651 there is huge evidence to suggest manipulation of the Bible, and I for one don’t believe revelation is a map of the future. It was a coded message for the first century as a warning about ceaser nero, not of things to come in our time

[@Akolgo_islam]

@@drivinsouth651 there is huge evidence to suggest manipulation of the Bible, and I for one don’t believe revelation is a map of the future. It was a coded message for the first century as a warning about ceaser nero, not of things to come in our time

[@m.jenkins8503]

He also said go out and buy two swords just before the garden of Gethsemane. Then, told Peter not to use them. More should be studied on this.

[@alexrediger2099]

Wow. Thanks

[@runoz2839]

althought passed on Ed McMahon 🙏 made the right choice no matter how many times asked to speak @ those retreats, flat out refused. 🙌💪 No means, No !!! He must have known something or it wasn't the right thing to do for HIMSELF not horriblehoover... push back is good...

[@WhatIThink45]

Definitely plan to read this book. I’m not surprised by this history in which remnants of it still influences white Christian nationalism today.

[@rosie-ob8tt]

We must give religion to the masses so they won't kill us (the elites) Napoleon Bonaparte said this.

[@drivinsouth651]

Roman Emperor Constantine, Adolf Hitler, and Donald Trump said the exact same things! Christianity and all Arahamic faiths are evil; inherently evil and designed to make slaves out of us! Christianity is destroying this country and the world!

[@Omisaide]

Really, he was on to something huh?

[@MindsEyeVisualGuitarMethods]

I wonder if there's any relation to L Ron Hoover and the First Church of Appliantology.

[@Raydensheraj]

Probably more Coughlin and the Christian Front lunatics.

[@DoodleBean4]

😂

[@cherylcollins4278]

L. Ron Hubbard?

[@MindsEyeVisualGuitarMethods]

Nope...appliantology not Scientology, (Satire) I was going to spell it out but I'll leave you on a quest to do some Google sleuthing and see if you can come up with the relate

[@cherylcollins4278]

@@MindsEyeVisualGuitarMethods not really interested, just thought you were talking about someone else. Not a problem. It was just a question.

[@makejesusfamousministries]

J. Edgar Hoover wasn’t a Christian! Just because someone uses “Christian verbiage,” doesn’t mean they follow Christ and His teachings.

[@dreroberson5691]

Hoover was as much a Christian as the United States is a Christian nation.

[@davispatricks5453]

I wish that m a g a Americans could understand this

[@ShawnStradamus520]

There will be sheep, and wolves in sheep’s clothing…Who are you to judge?

[@JohnHillers]

It always cracks me up when someone says this about Christians. Is there someone we can check with to see who is a "real" Christian?

[@makejesusfamousministries]

@@JohnHillers Jesus said “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them.” Matthew 7:15-20

[@manasseskamau5327]

Christ must cringe every time the initials FBI are mentioned. It's the most blasphemous organization in the world.

[@sanctuary70]

No. The Jesuits are.

[@kahlilbt]

What a cool use of research money

[@drivinsouth651]

I concur! Lerone Martin, Associate Professor of Religious Studies and Director of the Martin Luther King, Jr., Research and Education Institute at Stanford University, is absolutely fabulous, wonderfully beautiful, and an excellent researcher and educator! We need more people like him on this planet and probably beyond! This is the 1st time I`ve ever seen him and he sounds awesome!

[@runoz2839]

thats crazy @ 9:40 fired *ALL* the BLK agents🤨🙄🤦 Very Brilliantly Intelligent, like the way he researched the opposite!!! awesome clever dude!!!

[@andywinger4197]

RFK, as attorney general, was technically Hoover's boss, but he was about 30 years younger than Hoover. Hoover was obsessed with himself and his bureau and he detested anyone who he felt wasn't showing proper respect. As I recall from previous reading, that perceived lack of respect is what set Hoover's hatred (I believe that's the appropriate word) for MLK Jr. MLK was invited to meet with Hoover but MLK was really busy at the time, so Hoover took that as an unforgivable insult.

[@MrDarkElement]

Sign up sheet..Spiritual retreat to SVD Jesuit Seminary, Techny, Il. 4th ofJuly Week 1964, days B4 Beatles.. I can't remember the day we arrived (time warp) but do remember returning home to program view on the same day as The Beatles premiere July 7, 1964 on The Ed Sullivan Show.

[@lesliefurgus7443]

Hoover literally lived up to his name 😊

[@Spaceghost87x]

Sucking like a vacuum 😅😅😅😅😅

[@greatsol2444]

Anyone here getting defensive to protect the precious fragile feelings of christians, is a part of the problem.

[@Peggy-pc4us]

Interesting

[@runoz2839]

VERY !!!

[@kevinpoole4323]

Who was Behind Black Church Burnings,

[@2BWell]

It’s my understanding that Hoover was a cross dresser. How Christian is that?

[@nazimabdul-latif4057]

He and His assistant homosexuals

[@tariqspaulding8034]

J. Edger Hoover played a major part in Killing Malcolm X

[@haywardmccullough2762]

Very Christian!

[@BB-cp5re]

✝️👗

[@WalksWithGod21]

Yea, it was all a cover for Jesuits and Masons. Public perception is crucial to justify their mission and practices. August Cesar did the same with his moral laws but was degenerate himself.

[@BlackGeoYoutube]

Please learn about #AARM

[@runoz2839]

@ 27:33 he was a in other words, a goebbels

[@enochpage1333]

Yes!

[@lolakepi]

True

[@vvvvxxxx9999]

These are children playing games. Children who never grew up. It really is very sad. Swords and Dragons, and the wicked unbeliever. Chilling that children are capable of yeilding such power

[@TabIsrael]

I love that he used the college money to sue the FBI 😊❤

[@runoz2839]

this is why wht domestic terrorism is able to purposely & intentionally float on by as, just rants nothing seriously to be concerned w/... 🤦 its what allowed 1/6 to happen... 🤨🙄

[@MrDarkElement]

The Kloran.

[@runoz2839]

@@MrDarkElement what's that ?

[@markrichter2053]

Is anyone going to ask the most uncomfortable question, the elephant in the room, the link between the FBI, the far right and the assassination of King?

[@kevinwilmore3604]

Smart White Man.

[@joyandrews3804]

I have always wondered if there was a separate version of heaven for Christians who are a different race from whites. If we can’t live in peace and unity on earth, what’s heaven going to be like?

[@dl1361]

Your comment sounds like you don’t think any white Christians aren’t racist The way I read it

[@joyandrews3804]

@@dl1361 Sorry it sounded like that. Actually I was remarking on white Christian’s racism. If they don’t like blacks, Hispanics and Asians here on earth how are they going to cope in an ‘all race’ heaven? I wonder if they even think about it. I’m white, used to be a Christian, but gave it up because of the hypocrisy. I was taught that god created us all no matter the race or colour. Yet whites because of their colour believe they are superior. They forget that Jesus was dark skinned, dark haired and brown eyed. So white skinned Christians must believe they are more superior to their saviour. The hypocrisy is incredible and I don’t want to have anything to do with it.

[@terririchter2279]

yeah its called hell....you aint a true christian if you see race in heaven....why cant we live in unity on earth? maybe because of ppl that think like you do...seperate heaven..good lord this joker trying to take jim crowe to heaven (laughing my f#$%ing a$$ off)

[@enochpage1333]

I assure you heaven won’t be racially segregated. God doesn’t make or ratify human mistakes even if He forgives them. So if we want to have heaven on earth we have to eradicate segregation and care for our fellow human like we want to be cared for in addition to loving God with all our heart and soul.

[@marilynclarke6092]

God created every color person on this universe, so therefore all of the ones who are repented believers, no matter the color of their skin, will reside in heaven with Christ when the time comes. There will be no segregation in Heaven.

[@dlee6014]

makes sense. and Jan. 6th were the chickens coming home to roost.

[@lesliefurgus7443]

Hoover was saying all this Christian stuff while being bottom dog at a sausage party.

[@VickiTrusselliArt]

I REMEMBER THIS1 HOOVER WAS SO NOT A GOOD PERSON

[@Raydensheraj]

Of course he wasn't....a typical Neo Confederate Christian sociopath crusader.

[@RonnyThomas-x9u]

🎉🎉🎉

[@lsowner10]

Hoover was also LGBT!

[@deonramsay6912]

they also promoted traditional Islam to replace nation of islam

[@fatumataholloway4897]

FBI the great propaganda!!!

[@MrDarkElement]

You need to know the history of the Moors/Blackamoors Divine Rite of Kings...Roman Arabic Urdu..

[@bassman777]

Is it me or is Project 2025 an expansion of Hoover's intent?

[@JRey-re9rl]

King Jesus Christ and His Word have never meant anything to America. The actions of this country have proven that.

[@yelenayakovleva7901]

So, in simple words, American taxpayers were paying their taxes to churches? If churches were so engraved in the government? It is kind of double taxes on citizens. What about church and state separation? Never happened, I guess. Excellent presentation. Thank you. Off topic - always was wondering, if vacuum was named after FBI director.

[@psharelater172]

I loved presentation but had difficulty putting it in context. I think the title and framing may get in the way of the stor(at least as presented in lecture). Everything changed during Hoover. The world changed. People got cars. The U.S. became 50 states. The social welfare state was created. There were real communist governments costing tens of millions of lives. He came in as the Klan was waning and civil rights activism rose.The place of women in society was revolutionized. "God and Country" was not just a "Christian Nationalist" ideal. The nation was in real turmoil in the 60's. And Hoover was very powerful (for being the head of a law enforcement agency}. But neither was he the cause of all the change. The story is important--but carries the risk of whenever on looks at broad cultural change and the impact of one variable (e.g. Hoover) on that. Puting White Evangelicalism at the center of American religiosity is grossly overstated.

[@MrDarkElement]

Christianity is Baal worship!

[@andreabrown4541]

Seriously! An evangelical by the name of Billy Graham told his fellow evangelicals that Jesus was black in the 1960s. They have most definitely been in denial ever since. Notwithstanding, I grew up with the teachings of Thomas Merton, courtesy of my mother and the Black Catholic Movement and Dr. James Cone also courtesy of my mother and the Civil Rights Movement. So I was raised to believe white Christian theology was the problem with Christianity.

[@karenl7786]

It's pretty clear that he's speaking on just what Hoover WAS the cause of, as well as an agent and helped to facilitate, not Hoover as THE cause

[@christopherc8563]

I disagree as the country was moving in the opposite direction. There's no way to quantify the effect he had but without the propping up by the FB.I legitimizing these religious organizations Putting them in places of power and prominence. Things could have been radically different. He propped up racist pro segregationists Because he was a racist and an ideologue and instead of working to protect and defend the Constitution.He went after people he disagreed with. What exactly? Was revolutionary about women in the 60s and 70s.I'm pretty sure they got the right to vote half a century prior And we're working for a long time. So what actually changed was that most americans started having it shoved in their face while being told it's bad n will destroy the country as all this stuff was commie plot

[@christopherc8563]

How did they treat people with different ideologies? They were called traitors and un american by default despite the truth. How? Do we feel today about the government pushing an ideology siding with one group over the other? Pushing propaganda for that ideology Against the principles the country was founded on

[@tamikajackson3419]

I of the Lambs have a right and duty to share this prophecy and Our Heavenly Father said everyone put the 🍎 s back in the basket of rebellious angels he called false gods in his commandments and there is a pads with wings section of his discipline and we bend the wings section.

[@YoungBillyKatastrophe]

America was extremely anti semetic when Hoover was in the FBI... from the president to the leading general of the American army that liberated the Jews during ww2 to the significant amount of the American public 😂😂😂

[@kevinpoole4323]

Read Fox Book of Martyrs

[@J.WinkN184]

🤔Hmmm, I wonder why he loved Sunday schools??A lot of young fresh meat attended allegedly??

[@lolakepi]

😂😂🤣😃😄😅

[@DJK-cq2uy]

Good grief

[@eernandoharris68]

👏👏💯🔥🔥🔥🤌

[@WalksWithGod21]

But facts by themselves are not too meaningful, right? Isn’t that why data scientists and data analysts make a lot of money today. How is that a dangerous statement?

[@_VISION.]

Because it makes you can whip up any narrative you want and obviously the FBI is there to establish THE narrative

[@christopherc8563]

Because facts are meaningful. Only when they do not fall in your favor do you try to warp the interpretation. You're not supposed to Work backwards from your ideal solution.The facts should lead you to the truth. The truth was king was not under foreign commie influence nor was he a threat to the constitution( What hoover swore an oath to protect n defend). So they made stuff up and withheld information to craft their own narrative. You don't see how that's dangerous? To have bureaucrat With no democratic accountability , making decisions like this for the nation based off of their ideology?? Murdering people? Planting / leaking evidence to push conflict inside organizations to further this nut bags faith? He's supposed to be loyal to the constitution , not the church or his idea of what god is. Only fascists think facts aren't meaningful, What's left when we're not all in agreement to work off of the facts? We are now all working off of our opinions and emotions which are easily manipulated

[@christopherc8563]

Think about what you just said in your second sentence. You think data scientists make money Because data / facts are not meaningful? No, they're paid a lot of money to analyze the data in facts because they are meaningful, the reality is that there's just too much for 1 person to sit there and read through all of it. So much data collected.It's not all useful. Somebody has to go through and clean it all up to put on a graph or chart Those data points go on graphs and all sorts of stuff. They only go on those graphs one way. In one place. Because they mean something real. You cannot reinterpret a data point on a graph and say that it should in fact be somewhere else on the graph. Again this is all done because the facts and data matter

[@_VISION.]

@christopherc8563 this is under the assumption that humans have the ability to recognize all data and facts of a situation. When you have one type of people collecting data with a mission, they data collection is already flawed. Because they know what they want to find and what they don't, and they will avoid anything that goes against it. Especially if you are providing certain incentives for the data collectors and scientists; his is how science fraud comes about. Of course, when you have nothing but white males in a room collecting data, they are already bias in regards to what is "useful" and what is "useless". It's flawed from the very beginning.

[@dalek7804]

Was Billy Graham a Christian?

[@kevinpoole4323]

Worship Service Today is Still Segregated.

[@lolakepi]

Good

[@j.c.3800]

Duh. Let's make up something.

[@CharlieMarno100]

I didn’t know him, but I doubt Hoover was a Christian. I think he used Christianity as a tool.

[@christopherc8563]

Then You clearly don't understand how christian radicalization work. Who are you to say what a christian is? I would argue if you look through History His behavior is pretty much in line with many of not all Christians in power prior to him.

[@eatfrenchtoast]

Sounds like a preacher

[@CharlieMarno100]

@@jamesa.smith.7794 Wrong.

[@CharlieMarno100]

@@jamesa.smith.7794 Humble yourself.

[@lolakepi]

True

[@inevitablemeeting9197]

uh, you if ever studied a smidge of History you'd know America was culturally established on Christendom values, so your hateful rhetoric is not only out of touch but insensitive and fueled towards ethnic hate and potentially extremely dangerous to our democracy

[@CharlesRussell-zj3jp]

Andthe race bait train rolls on

[@richardellis8076]

And the explanation of the reason why things are the way they are train rolls on. If speaking about your ancestors implementing legislation around race and enforcing the law with their racial biases at the forefront of their minds all make you uncomfortable, sorry, but thats too bad. The rest of us want to actually help make the country live up to the ideals expressed in the constitution. People like you would rather not talk about it in order to feel better about yourselves. The rest of us cannot afford to ignore it and not try to change things for the equal benefit of all Americans.

[@CharlesRussell-zj3jp]

@@richardellis8076 I want to see the time before i die when white folks and black folks can together put that political and media driven divide aside and stand together for America before we lose our country to socialism and all this nasty sexual movement stuff. We have to stand together for OUR country please...if we have something to bicker about then lets do it after we stop this socialist takeover thats coming down on us.❤

[@karenl7786]

​@@richardellis8076this person(or troll?) knows this very well. Hoover is notorious for the very reasons outlined here and his rabid racism is well known. People like this don't care; to them dismissal and denial keeps that same evil alive.

[@genevievekelly1792]

Wow... "I'm not Christian anymore"... great way to chase a good amount of people away from this possibly important talk. Why not feature some Thomas Sowell content? You probably have no interest in what he has to say, but you should. Goodbye.

[@kahlilbt]

Maybe it's not for close-minded people? Thomas Sowell is a terrible scholar.

[@michaelbrowncando]

So you're that guy who goes to a leukemia fundraiser, I want to talk about colon cancer!lol

[@scientifico]

HAHAHA..... hold on... HAHAHAHA! Wot a maroon!

[@365ramone]

Thomas Sowell is an atheist

[@Raydensheraj]

Username followed by 4 digits= 95% chance it's a Kremlin Bot or one of the Heritage Foundation Propaganda Accounts. They use auto generated usernames 99% of the time and spam up ANYTHING concerning Biden, Democrats, negative opinion pieces against Christian nationalism and news channels like CNN, MSNBC etc.

[@markrichter2053]

Re the intro: my father also read Christianity Today, and, before that, the British equivalent, the Evangelical Times. OMG! So BORING!!! 🥱 I so should’ve realised, simply from that, and the stultifying 45 minute monologues from the pulpit that there was something very off with the whole culture