The Gospel of Thomas

There's a reason the Gospel of Thomas is not in your Bible -- let's find out why. Discovered in 1949, the Gospel of Thomas offers a rare glimpse into an alternate portrait of Jesus, a portrait that would disappear as the Roman Church and its theology ascended to prominence. In this video, I'm reading from "The Gospel of Thomas: The Hidden Sayings of Jesus," translated by Marvin Meyer, HarperCollins, 1992 (which is now out of print). But the identical text can now be had through a different publisher, published in 2004. Here's the Amazon link: www.amazon.com/Gospel-Thomas-...

[@shabdmystic]

He nailed it! This is the best Gospel of Thomas video on KZbin, by far.

[@PeterBolland]

Thanks Shabd! I really appreciate it. And there's a LOT of competition -- the Gospel of Thomas is well-represented on KZbin.

[@adreethomas2844]

@@PeterBolland The Harvard Lecture on it seemed pretty useless.

[@adreethomas2844]

@@PeterBolland *Yale

[@PeterBolland]

@@adreethomas2844 Yeah, well, that's how they talk in high-level academia. There's a certain tone, a certain vernacular. That lecture is 100% legit and filled with the sort of nuts and bolts scholarship that's necessary at that level. I focus on introducing these wonderful subjects to a general audience. So I can strike a different tone.

[@sapphire19885]

I've watched dozens of videos about the Gospel of Thomas, and have to agree! This was fantastic!

[@servant7777]

There was a time I was considering ministry, and we were to prepare sermons to be evaluated by the administers and my ministry peers. I purposely chose a controversial topic, cuz I needed to know if the Church would give me the freedom to pursue what I believe is true Christianity. My sermon was focused on following the heart, and not being reliant on the Bible as an instruction manual. I used John's story of the woman caught in adultery to demonstrate that Jesus followed his heart even when it went against scripture. I also contrasted how the religious leaders were using scripture to justify condemning people, not unlike many Christians. The evaluation was divided. 1/3 felt my message was out of line. This included the head administer. 1/3 liked my message, however they were trying to find ways to reason my sermon fit in with Church theology. 1/3 privately spoke with me afterward saying that they really needed to hear that. A few months later, I discovered that they had approved me. However from this experience, I had learned the Church would only accept me as long as I fell in line with their official theology. It was at this point I knew if I was gonna enter into ministry it would have to be on my terms. I knew if my denomination which is rather open minded relative to many Christian sects would struggle with this message, there was no way I would get support from the Church at large. I believe the reason why so many Christians fear the Gospel of Thomas, like my sermon, is because they fear using their heart. Christians don't want to be led by their heart. They want to be led by scripture. They want everything either black or white. They want to define everything as sinful or not sinful, saved or not saved. They don't want to accept that God is calling humanity to a higher understanding. He wants people to think for themselves and quit trying to hide behind religion and doctrine. I remember at that ministry candidacy event, that one of their concerns was that Christian membership had been on the decline. They had all sorts of ideas about getting connected with youth using multimedia platforms, and creating social events to pull in people from the community. While they were saying this I was imagining a sinking ship. I saw a group of people shoveling water from one side of the ship to the other, instead of addressing the source of the problem. The hole. I believe the main reason the Church is sinking is cuz they are refusing to completely follow their heart. They only want to follow their heart within constrained bounds. The Christian idea of the Church and Christ idea of the Church are in conflict. The Christians idea of a Church revolution are megachurches scattered all over the world with an established ministry hierarchy. Everyone believes and thinks identical to each other, and all the world's problems go away. Christ idea of a Church revolution are no buildings. Its just people scattered all over the world seeking and sharing ideas. Everyone doesn't agree however there is no hatred and condemnation. There are still issues in the world, however these problems will be greatly diminished as people are more in touch with Christ in themselves. I believe it was by divine purpose that the Gospel of Thomas has been revealed in this age. God is calling humanity to a higher mental and spiritual level. He want's people to quit being sheep, and to start thinking for themselves. He wants all to become a royal priesthood. A priesthood whereby all can access God in freedom and truth without somebody pointing their finger at you saying that's sinful or you are going to hell. Its only whenever everyone becomes Christ that the kingdom of heaven can exist. There is no other way.

[@PeterBolland]

Servant 777, thank you so much for writing this thoughtful piece. A great story, and important for everyone inside and outside the church to understand. Thank you for sharing your experiences here. Have you ever read Ralph Waldo Emerson's "Divinity School Address?" Google it and read it. He's speaking to a graduating class of Unitarian ministers at Harvard Divinity School, and is walking the same path we are. Remarkable.

[@servant7777]

@@PeterBolland I did try to read a little of it however it was a bit intellectual heavy. Yet the section where he started talking about Jesus I could easily connect with what he was saying. Thanks for the suggestion.

[@silveriorebelo8045]

your idea of following the heart, not the 'manual' was clearly false and dangerous - not sure that such a way of thinking can be made to cohere with the Christian faith

[@silveriorebelo8045]

of course, Christ's idea of the church is exactly like yours... you know? - we don't need people like you, that have their own idea of what is true Church and faith going around in the communities, destroying them from the inside

[@servant7777]

@@silveriorebelo8045 Let me get this straight you are criticizing me for saying I'd rather follow my heart than blindly follow scripture? So your reasoning is Christ doesn't want us to follow our hearts? John 5.39 Jesus speaking to the religiously "correct" during his day said "You study the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life." 2 Corinthians 3.6 Paul said "He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant-not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life." I don't put my trust in the letter of scripture. I put my trust in the Spirit of scripture so that I might not be deceived by the devil who manipulates scripture for his evil purposes.

[@BrumbleBush]

I’m so glad to hear a deeper dive into the meaning behind some of the passages in the Gospel of Thomas. This was a real treat. Now I’m hungry for a passage by passage analysis of the entire work, but I think I probably won’t find anyone else this enjoyable. Thank you for your great work here.

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you so much for watching and commenting. I appreciate it!

[@letsgoeverywhere]

Back again to watch this amazing video. Thank you for your work Peter!

[@PeterBolland]

Thank YOU! 🙏🏼

[@NinaNina-qc8sh]

This is grand! This falls in line with my spiritual beliefs ✨💕

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you Janine, and thanks for commenting. Yeah, the Gospel of Thomas really brought me into a new and rich appreciation of Jesus, and drew into deeper consideration of the synoptic gospels and John too. I truly don't understand anyone who feels threatened by or who attacks the Gospel of Thomas. To me it's wonderful.

[@NinaNina-qc8sh]

@@PeterBolland you have some amazing content and I’m thrilled to see what you’re sharing! ☺️

[@SharonBalloch]

' Rather, the kingdom of the father is spread out upon the earth, and men do not see it." (114) Simon Peter said to him, "Let Mary leave us, for women are not worthy of life." Jesus said, "I myself shall lead her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males.

[@adamjfwinter]

how is this *NOT* the most popular video on KZbin!!? Wow!

[@PeterBolland]

Thanks Adam!

[@Kwalk1989]

Not enough ears to hear

[@TheRoyalBavarian]

People are afraid of finding.

[@azurestarton]

I like the Gnostic Gospel of Thomas. Jesus never established The Vatican. The Vatican was started by those wanting to control his message.

[@azurestarton]

@@TheRoyalBavarianThe 1%er’s hate when the masses are liberated because they want them immediately enslaved. If all were liberated no wars would occur,no taxes would be given and no human would be held back by needless laws. It is ironic that the heretical message of revelation which contradicts what Yahweh said Himself and what Jesus said was left in. Even it contradicts what Paul said in 1 Timothy 4:10 and 1 Timothy 2:4 which says God will save all. It even contradicts what people said of Jesus in John 4:42. And if God is Love and if He is Yahweh then a lake of fire would be not thought of because that would be akin to what the idolators did to the pagan god moloch who is an idol. And if God is Light and like the most innocent child then He would not destroy His creation. If God is Life then He does not allow death forever. In truth if you go by the Law and the Prophets on their own Yahweh will wipe tears from all faces. He will do this after destroying the firmament someday. If Yahweh does that and swallows up death forever then He death is done. If Yahweh is slow to anger and quick to compassion then He is a caring being. According to Ezekiel 18:23 & 32 Yahweh never delighted in the death of the wicked who die or anyone else who ever dies. Even the most vile being according to the Old Testament Yahweh can save. Plus the Church is not even a building. It is the called out ones. The Bible does say:As a human thinks in their soul,so are they. The Bible is deep. Yet it is distorted by the translators because that one verse has been distorted with one word. It has heart instead of soul. If we think we are something in our soul, that is what we are.

[@asteroxfoundation]

This is a great presentation...well done. Peter Bolland presents this summary of the Gospel of Thomas in this video with analysis, references and facts...pure elegant explanations, eloquence and gnosis! He makes our Atmon within do a double-take.

[@PeterBolland]

Thanks for the kind feedback. I appreciate it! 🙏🏼

[@danielpaulson8838]

Just found your channel. Been posting interpretations of my own and the yt algorithm did good. Wow, I love what you’ve done. Subscribed

[@PeterBolland]

Thanks! 🙏🏼

[@7rafilla8]

Im found myself here because of ROBERT SEPEHR.

[@alexandersibilio7436]

Same here

[@Svetacus]

Same lol

[@christmascat8076]

Same

[@CarvingTheDivine]

Profesor Bolland, I’m utterly impressed with your presentation. This is amazing stuff! And how can you show us in a way exciting engaging and comprehensible??? What a talent and experience! This video is like the gospel of Thomas! It’s hidden in the KZbin world but it must be discovered! Thank you so much for your generosity. To share this information is indeed truly a generous act!

[@PeterBolland]

Love you Yujiro! Keep inspiring the world with your soulful, wonderful film "Carving the Divine." Thanks for stopping by to offer such kind words.

[@dr.matthewwion3215]

It seems to me that the Jesus of Thomas IS fully divine. But, and here is the stark contrast with Orthodoxy, so are we all! Jesus' job is to help us awake to our inner divinity. Which is a marvelous teaching.

[@AQenAten]

Shalom my brother... I’ve been on this journey since last year & my path has led me here & it correlates with everything that I’ve been feeling/becoming. Thank you for your captivating presentation. It truly resonated within me.

[@nenamiguel3846]

Beautiful 🌹Thank you for sharing

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you for watching! 🙏🏼

[@fernandomedina9142]

Hi Professor Bolland. Fernando, an old 2006 student of your world religion class! You still have it and you are like a fine wine, it's always a pleasure leasing to your lectures and talks!

[@PeterBolland]

Hey Fernando! Thanks so much! 🙏🏼

[@stephanyfaycohen3842]

Many thanks Peter Bolland for a beautiful, heart-warming, insightful and accurate conclusion on the Disciple Thomas and his writings. I am Stephany Fay Cohen aka Mary Magdalene (wife of Jesus). Best wishes with Love, Peace, Light and Blessings.

[@willienolegs8928]

Outstanding presentation. Lots of food for thought. Thanks.

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you! 🙏🏼

[@henripepels815]

Well, thanks very much; the gospel is one of the most fascinating texts I know. I like the perennial perspective you put forward. James W. Heisig, for decades a student and teacher of (zen) buddhist philosophy, presented an interpreation/commentary on the gospel and concludes that nowhere in it he read something the buddha could not have said. I studied Meister Eckhart recently. His perspective really is very very close to the gospel (which he of course could not have known); ironically, the gospel of John is his main reference from the NT. The 'birth of God in the soul' really is the realization of the kingdom, and 'it takes place' in what he calls the 'fullness of time', or the 'eternal now' which 'is' beyond time. Fascinating it is.

[@PeterBolland]

Henri, thanks for watching and thanks for your insightful comment.

[@groetmarnix]

Enlightenment. Thank you so much. Now I see.

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you for watching and commenting Marnix. 🙏🏼

[@trondirty]

Awesome, thank you so much for making this video

[@SharonBalloch]

' Rather, the kingdom of the father is spread out upon the earth, and men do not see it." (114) Simon Peter said to him, "Let Mary leave us, for women are not worthy of life." Jesus said, "I myself shall lead her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males.

[@huisjebloem7085]

Beautiful.Thank you so much for this. First time i hear about the gospel Thomas.

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you Huisje. So glad that this video is introducing this amazing text to new folks. 🙏🏼

[@JazzyTimeLearning]

After researching the Epic of Gilgamesh and it’s influence on Adam & Eve and Noah, I started a theological crisis. After further studying and discovering that most of Paul’s writings are forgeries, the issues with the gospels and their inconsistencies when stories are read horizontally against one another, their origin and the creation of the church as we know it in Constantine’s reign (and the political motivation behind that), I was overwhelmed. As a life long Christian, I began wondering what to believe (for serotonin is created in religious experiences, religion began as we know it 10K years ago and we need to find a healthy and common way to live and bond in larger groups). As such, I knew I needed a faith but the old one wasn’t going to work. Upon research of the gnostic Christians and the Gospel of Thomas, I found their answers much more in line with something I can get behind. I’ve watched/read several takes on the Gospel of Thomas now, and yours is an amazing one. Thank you!

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you so much for watching and commenting. Dismantling one's own fundamentalist upbringing is a journey so many people are on right now, or at least that's how it seems to me. Evangelicals are becoming Exvangelicals in droves. Literal interpretations of scripture are collapsing from the weight of their own internal contradictions, and so-called "conservative" theologies are being revealed for what they really are--pointedly cruel, selfish, and destructive, not to mention, the antithesis of the Gospel message of love, care-ethics, and non-judgment. I did not grow up in fundamentalist Christianity so perhaps it is easier for me to be a Christian now--I'm surrounded by loving, open-minded, humble, and devoted Christians who are more interested in living the truth than talking about it. When people twist my arm and ask me if I believe in God I hesitantly say, "Yes, but I have no idea what God is." For me, "God" is a placeholder word for the Nameless Mystery. It's something you experience more than understand. So I gravitate to ideologies and traditions that affirm that, as my KZbin channel attests!

[@thetndixie]

Perspective is key. Thank you for sharing your perspective. I'm grateful that the gospel of Thomas survived.

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you. And I am too!

[@heatherturner3837]

I asked you a question about an hour ago then watched this video of the gospel of Thomas (my beloved grandson's name.) This video has answered me in spades! Thank you. 💖🙏💖

[@PeterBolland]

Yes I saw your question, and wrote a reply. But glad the Gospel of Thomas video helped. It's the second most popular video on my whole channel.

[@jenxsj3902]

But this is what I always thought about the bible. It was always inside me. Love your channel man.

[@PeterBolland]

Thanks Jenxs.

[@atravelerofbothtimespace4172]

And outside aswell

[@ryancoxy91]

Brilliant video. 👏 thankyou for the lessons❤

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you so much for watching and commenting!

[@tomditerlizzi8183]

I enjoyed this video, your closing statement of the religious western mainstream who rejected this gospel is paramount to the 2nd saying in the ability to seek the truth and not follow the narrative. You may not like what you discover but once you figure out the truth you are enlightened and prepared to right the wrongs. Much like how we should view the world today.

[@I-Am-Aware]

Hello Peter. What a great presentation! Thank you so much!

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you. 🙏🏼

[@I-Am-Aware]

@@PeterBolland You're welcome! Great work!

[@shaul76239]

Oh man, so much to learn..... Thank you.

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you for watching and commenting!

[@mariamilo487]

I have recently discovered the channel. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge 🙏

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you so much! 🙏🏼

[@SharonBalloch]

' Rather, the kingdom of the father is spread out upon the earth, and men do not see it." (114) Simon Peter said to him, "Let Mary leave us, for women are not worthy of life." Jesus said, "I myself shall lead her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males.

[@mariamilo487]

@@SharonBalloch what is the interpretation of those words? I am not sure how to understand it. Thank you

[@jeffskinner1226]

I like the irony of saying #5: it's like the text is referring to it's own modern discovery in 1949: 5. Jesus said, "Know what is in front of your face, and what is hidden from you will be disclosed to you. For there is nothing hidden that won't be revealed."

[@Fleurgiddy]

Thank you so much for this ❤. I am finding myself on a journey, a beautiful yet complex one, until I listen to my heart not my head, and I know there my connection to Jesus resides, not within a bible or a church, and he led me to research this gospel and here I find you and your words, for which I am very grateful. Thank you ❤🙏

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you so much Dawn for watching and commenting. 🙏🏼

[@SharonBalloch]

' Rather, the kingdom of the father is spread out upon the earth, and men do not see it." (114) Simon Peter said to him, "Let Mary leave us, for women are not worthy of life." Jesus said, "I myself shall lead her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males.

[@PeterBolland]

@@SharonBalloch I see you've posted this passage twice. You may have not read the entire comment thread -- it's quite long -- but elsewhere we discussed this problematic passage and tried to make sense of it. There are a number of possible interpretative directions to take, and not enough room in this reply to take them all.

[@NinoBrown88]

Thanks for educating me Peter

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you!

[@kosmicwizard]

Beautiful! Wonderful! Way better than the course I took from religion for breakfast. This is my favourite judeo-christian book!

[@user-hz4of2uk2x]

Thank you for your teaching.

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you for watching! 🙏🏼

[@krousamarnhpang375]

Thanks for the eye-opening message

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you so much for watching Krou, and for commenting. I appreciate it.

[@loverenegade3580]

I really enjoyed your commentary. Thank you.

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you!

[@jackhanks9669]

I’ve watched a lot of your videos professor I just love them. Thank you for giving the world-what’s worth listening. Don’t tie yourself with an ideology rather free yourself and try to be the one that our teachers wants us to be. Wish more people get to you. World needs you keep doing what you doing.

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you so much Jack! 🙏🏼

[@Newfoundmike]

@@PeterBollandcan you elaborate on what Judas Thomas the twin means I'm confused that

[@PeterBolland]

@@Newfoundmike There are a variety of answers to your question. It's widely understood that Jesus had several siblings, including James and Thomas, as well as others, including a number of sisters. "Twin" is an English translation of "Didymus," and may or may not mean "twin" in the way we use it, as in literally. But it might (which raises obvious theological challenges). Here's a great and short piece exploring these issues by the great Bart Ehrman: ehrmanblog.org/jesus-twin-brother-thomas/

[@pradeeppeter5068]

lovely and concise presentation

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you Pradeep! 🙏🏼

[@robertamaral2349]

I've read The Gospel of Thomas so long ago. I felt the same way this gentleman does when he says we now know why it's not in the Bible. This gospel spoke volumes to me more than the Bible ever did. Thank you so much Mr. Bolland for this video!!! Bless you, brother! One thing though I think Jesus said in the Bible is that all that is hidden will be eventually revealed. This gospel was hidden and now has been revealed. I find that so fascinating!

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you Robert for watching and for your kind words! I really appreciate it.

[@chericruz7937]

All I can say is,three words,Excellent,Excellent and Enlightening,Thank you so much Sir for this very informative presentation on the Gospel of Thomas.Please keep up the great work you are engaged in. Richard D Cruz,Malaysia.

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you thank you thank you! 🙏🏼

[@tanujachaturvedi]

Wonderful. Thank you for sharing this amazing text with us. Your wisdom sees the unity the great Masters saw. And it's amazing people refuse to see it.

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you! 🙏🏼

[@DreaWinterWalker]

I have not read Pagels' book, but as you described it, I was surprised to hear Pagels contrasted the gospels of John and Thomas. When I first read logion 77, I was immediately taken in my mind to John 1:1-4 as a possible parallel.

[@PeterBolland]

Andrea, great question, and you sent me on an Internet search to see if I could find a video of a talk I heard Elaine Pagels give where she contrasted the Gospels of Thomas and John. So far, I found this article, recounting a talk where she did just that. Naturally, as you point out, there are always echoes and parallels between all of the Gospels. Many of the sayings of the synoptic Gospels and John too are in Thomas as well. But there are key, and very important, differences. Check out this quick article: news.stanford.edu/news/2004/february4/pagels-24.html

[@DreaWinterWalker]

@@PeterBolland Thank you, Peter. I look forward to delving into her thoughts on John and Thomas.

[@SharonBalloch]

' Rather, the kingdom of the father is spread out upon the earth, and men do not see it." (114) Simon Peter said to him, "Let Mary leave us, for women are not worthy of life." Jesus said, "I myself shall lead her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males.

[@heatherwebster1090]

immense thanks!

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you Heather.

[@jiva65]

Very thought provoking presentation - I am reminded of the the writings found in A Course in Miracles, a work that supposedly channels Jesus. I was always dubious of this claim, but the Jesus' voice here in the Gospel of Thomas sounds very reminiscent of ACIM!

[@PeterBolland]

The "voice," so to speak, of Jesus in ACIM is definitely patterned after Jesus' voice in the ancient texts. Whether it really is "channeled" is another question entirely.

[@shaul76239]

Yes I agree , that is exactly what I thought as I read it. Its very much what ACM teaches

[@GuardianofLight444]

I love your videos so much! Thank you for sharing your insight, it is greatly appreciated!

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you Diane! 🙏🏼

[@lisag9752]

Thank you Peter. I have read the Gospel of Thomas. Some of the quotes are difficult to understand because they are without context. Do you know if scholars believe that these sayings are contemporary with the time of Jesus, or would they have been collected some hundreds of years later which can create questions about their authenticity?

[@PeterBolland]

Lisa, great question. In my opinion, there is really know way to know. We're dealing with 2,000 year old manuscripts. The same questions you ask can be raised about any of the Gospels. There are voices on all sides of the debate. Some say the GOT is the closest to Jesus's actual sayings, like the hypothetical text Quelle (or Q) that scholars believe existed in the first century but no longer exists, containing just the sayings of Jesus, and that the authors of the four gospels used as a source. Others say that the GOT of Thomas came after the other gospels, and is less reliable. Who knows? I say go with the best scholarship you can find, and then go with your gut. I'm excited by the Jesus we meet in the pages of the Gospel of Thomas, and that's good enough for me.

[@liljade53]

Heaven help us

[@merlindajohnson5304]

Thank you. Thank you!🙏🏾

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you for watching Merlinda! I appreciate it.

[@SharonBalloch]

' Rather, the kingdom of the father is spread out upon the earth, and men do not see it." (114) Simon Peter said to him, "Let Mary leave us, for women are not worthy of life." Jesus said, "I myself shall lead her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males.

[@baraztnm9790]

Who needs Megachurches, we got Gospel of Thomas!

[@LeonardoTorresMusic]

I am currently traveling an interesting journey studying Christ and have asked many times around why the book of Thomas was not included in the new testament...? This is an excellent explanation and I love that you tied the "Teachings" with the teachings of the Buddha. Many Christians who do not understand Buddhism and reject it thinking that it is a religion like theirs and that The Buddha is somehow claims to be the only way to God, not knowing that The Buddha never claimed such a thing. The gospel of Thomas should be included... This just means to me that the bible is only telling partial truth. It's incomplete.

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you Leonardo for watching and for leaving this excellent comment!

[@guilguimaraes8463]

Fantastic!

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you Guil! 🙏🏼

[@trapperkcmo3460]

nice. i have been enjoyng the gospel of tomas for a while. jesus is adam.

[@d-vision2426]

We don't need priests or church for salvation, but we need Jesus. Without him there is no salvation.

[@atravelerofbothtimespace4172]

lol " he pulled Thomas aside and had a 1 on 1 w him " ...made me chuckle. excellent presentation entertaining and insightful. thank you very much

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you! 🙏🏼

[@Christian-Rogers]

Hey Peter. I love what you did here with Thomas. The first time I read it I thought it could have been a text straight from Ramana Maharshi, Buddha, Al Hallaj, Meister Eckhart etc. I wonder if you've ever done anything with the Song of the Avadhut by Dattetreya? I would love to watch that. He goes straight to the truth and never allows the mind any entry point. It's amazing. I enjoy your talks!

[@PeterBolland]

Thanks Christian! And no I don’t know that text you referenced. I’ll check it out. 🙏🏼

[@BrumbleBush]

Still great every time I listen to this!🍻

[@PeterBolland]

Thanks for returning for another viewing. 🙏🏼

[@BrumbleBush]

@@PeterBolland Thank you for doing such great work!

[@narancauk]

Words of Jesus and especially Gospel of Thomas are the revolutionary manual. Not pretext for oratory competition. You can use yellow pages for that.

[@xenopwn]

Would love to have that Rama statue you have in the background

[@PeterBolland]

Good eye. A gift from a student, who had served in the navy in Asia and brought it back. He took my world religions course and offered it to me. I was thrilled and honored. Still am.

[@Trey13285]

what version are you reading? I'd like to read the whole thing, but want to make sure it's a good translation. Thank you

[@PeterBolland]

I wave it around for the first 10 seconds. Pause it. Marvin Meyer. Here's a link to it on Amazon in its current edition: www.amazon.com/Gospel-Thomas-Hidden-Sayings-Jesus-dp-006065581X/dp/006065581X/ref=mt_other?_encoding=UTF8&me=&qid=1601135969

[@therealjakedean3317]

This is awesome!

[@PeterBolland]

Thank you! And thanks for watching and commenting.

[@therealjakedean3317]

@@PeterBolland ❤️

[@therealjakedean3317]

@@PeterBolland I don’t understand how this doesn’t have up to at least a million views. Absolutely wonderful delivery and it’s obvious you really love what you’re talking about.

[@PeterBolland]

@@therealjakedean3317 Working on it.

[@zurahollow]

May I please have a link to the specific version you're holding in your hand? I wish to purchase it.

[@PeterBolland]

Sure Zura. Here you go: www.amazon.com/Gospel-Thomas-Hidden-Sayings-Jesus/dp/006065581X Of course the text is available from many other outlets besides Amazon. Like this one: bookoutlet.com/Store/Details/9780060655815B?source=ppc&ppc_campaign=u1407004000&gclid=CjwKCAjwj6SEBhAOEiwAvFRuKFD2GgvkuKKepScj8Tkufs86vCctV0Is8GMzvMb5BUneWejU-VlEfxoChB8QAvD_BwE

[@zurahollow]

@@PeterBolland Thank You Very Much! Much Love & Many Blessings!

[@haighbarrie6497]

Hi Peter, can you please give the name and author of the book you are holding. thank you

[@PeterBolland]

Sure Haigh. The Gospel of Thomas, translated by Marvin Meyer. www.amazon.com/Gospel-Thomas-Hidden-Sayings-Jesus/dp/006065581X

[@sharkluxry]

Can you talk about the Archon from the book of Thomas? I have heard that they are mentioned in the Book of Thomas

[@PeterBolland]

I don't know much about that. Archons are associated with Gnostic Christianity, and there is considerable debate as to whether or not the Gospel of Thomas properly is a Gnostic text, although it was clearly influenced by certain aspects of the Gnostic sect.

[@TobiasC-mg4zk]

Hopefully people will understand that there was no “Gnostic” sect per se. There were a multitude of different followers of Jesus who all had their own take on him. This was before any established canon of scripture was stamped out. Some of these groups were tarred by heresiologists like Irenaeus and Justin as “gnostics” to slander them. It was a term of derision and mockery used by early Pauline orthodoxy. The idea that the early church had a coherent christology or doctrine is undermined by any brief study of what early Christian writers actually said. Origen, Clement of Alexandria, Tatian etc were all devout and sincere followers of Jesus and spread their gospel messages in their communities. They were all heretics though.It’s deeply ironic that even the arch heresy hunter Irenaeus was himself an adherent of heretical beliefs. What later on coalesced into Orthodoxy had to reject much of the richness of the early pre-Nicene church. Certain books were discarded or actively rounded up and burned. Old saints like Origen were posthumously anathemized! What makes up the New Testament today is largely composed of forgeries as well. This will certainly shock evangelicals but it’s absolutely true. All serious scholars of the New Testament agree that Acts is a wonderful piece of propaganda and pseudo history. About half of Paul’s letters could not have been written by him and many serious scholars think that’s being too generous to accept seven “authentic” epistles.

[@cocodesuplex547]

Professor Bolland, are there more missing books yet to be discovered or is this the end?

[@PeterBolland]

Who knows? Things could pop out of undiscovered tombs and the like. But it seems, at this point, that we have all existent texts. Are their lost documents? Of course. But we'll never have those.

[@conedawg1982]

This seems so much more rational than other biblical teachings. I was miserable as a Christian, trying to live up to impossible standards. After I got away from church, Bible study, faith and prayer, I actually had more fruits of the Spirit and am more blessed and happier now than ever before. No guilt and pressure plaguing me each day. I went to a small group Bible study last year and got depressed hearing how church, faith, prayer and the Bible were assets in these people’s lives when they were a stumbling block to me. One day the thought hit me, did I have something in me they didn’t have, instead me missing what I thought they had?

[@PeterBolland]

Matthias, read Brian McLaren’s “Faith After Doubt.” Brilliant and right on point with what you’re experiencing. Also, subscribe to the daily newsletter of Richard Rohr’s Center for Action and Contemplation. cac.org/ Both of these voices will open up for you the soul-liberating world of progressive Christianity. Also, read anything by John Shelby Spong. Truly life-saving stuff.

[@conedawg1982]

@@PeterBolland thank you for those resources! I will look into them.

[@richardhotchkiss2928]

Where can I get that book? Changed my life

[@PeterBolland]

Here’s the translation I’m reading from in the video: The Gospel of Thomas: The Hidden Sayings of Jesus a.co/d/iXTTw73

[@jenniferschach4256]

There is a verse that describes the way to pray. Thomas says that the heart and mind need to be together in the prayer. Meaning you feel in you heart and picture in your mind what it you are praying for or about. That is a manifestation technique as I understand this verse.

[@NinoBrown88]

Back for the 5th time 😃

[@charlesrae3793]

Christopher Wallis has a fine interpretation of the Gospel from a Hindu tantric perspective, while Elaine Pagels has a book on the Gospel which contrasts its teaching with that of the Gospel of John. Very interesting indeed.

[@PeterBolland]

Thanks Charles for the tip about Wallis's book, I'll check it out. I've read Pagels quite a bit (and I may have even mentioned her work in this video, and how she contrasts the Gospel of Thomas with the Gospel of John.) Good stuff!

[@NinoBrown88]

I am fascinated with these lost gospels and all your videos , how do we know there authenticity, I suppose it’s which do you believe in reagrds to faith , I’m so confused I’m trying to follow my heart and it’s drawing me to these lost gospels, I love your videos and how you explain them thanks Peter

[@PeterBolland]

Thanks Luke. Yeah, I’m afraid we just don’t know. Sure, there are plenty of people who CLAIM to know, and who exhibit exuberant spiritual pride, but in quiet and sober spiritual humility we simply must feel our way through this.

[@christophermorgan3261]

Proclaiming the Gospel of Thomas, mystical "sayings" over the canonical gospels has been going on for almost 2000 years. But there's a reason the Canon has weathered so many centuries. It's not merely "corporate" thinking. Some folks are simply dissenters by principle. They'll always prefer a Simon the Magician to Jesus Christ. It's called New Age philosophy or "Alt" and trading on it along with Tarot cards, Astrology, Alice Bailey and Gurdjieff has always been brisk. Check out your local New Age bookshop. However learning Latin and Greek and Hebrew can be accomplished esp. if you start early. But even after fifty. And begin to read Christian scripture for the first time.

[@fuzzycounsellor9147]

I think you're saying the gospel of Thomas is false doctrine, if so I agree. I cannot believe how many deceived people are in this comment section.

[@neilhundtoft4873]

My goodness! What a treat! Allow me to corroborate your comments with a few observations from my own entirely independent study of the Gospel of Thomas. I'm in complete agreement regarding the teachings presented there. But I also think that the evidence points to the Gospel of Thomas being the very earliest recording of Jesus' teachings in our possession. Quelle, I would argue, was written later and drew from Thomas while also introducing the apocalyptic perspective to be expanded on in Matthew and Luke. I have found that a side-by-side comparison of the respective texts makes this conclusion difficult to avoid. Developing that argument has been my fun of late. It is no wonder that orthodoxy is so threatened by the Gospel of Thomas. It both confirms the existence of sayings gospels as a genre and together with Quelle destroys the very foundation of orthodox beliefs. Neither document declares a purpose for Jesus' death; there is no resurrection and no post-resurrection appearances. If these were important matters, is it possible that the author of Quelle and of the Gospel of Thomas could have left them out? I feel ready to assert that nothing of importance was left out. Establishing an early authorship for the Gospel of Thomas, then, has dramatic consequences. The dismissiveness visible now among the orthodox appears as strong as it was at the time of John. And for the same reasons too! One more observation before making this too long: I'm convinced that John and Thomas were very close at one time, but then experienced some terrible split. It appears to me that the key to understanding their differences is really quite straightforward. John takes a historical view in a dualistic universe in which God's light shines upon his creation; Thomas attends to the present in the unified all, shining out as an extension of the light. I am so grateful to have found this most welcome corroboration. I will now enjoy reading the comments of others who I'm sure must share my appreciation. Thank you for all and please do some more! Warmly, Neil Hundtoft

[@PeterBolland]

Dear Neil, your comment just made my day, my week, my month, and perhaps even my year. Thank you for sharing your considerable background and study with us here. I agree with everything you said. I've long believed that the Gospel of Thomas is closer to Q than the later synoptic gospels are.

[@neilhundtoft4873]

@@PeterBolland Thank you for being so very generous. I had the same reaction listening to your lecture. I'm hoping to enjoy some more exchange here. Saying #23 says that we are chosen one in a thousand and two from ten thousand. But from my experience in seeking conversation about the Gospel of Thomas over the past 20 years, Jesus made an optimistic projection. What a rarity to see this light shining from the tube! Many (with ears prepared to hear) will be blessed and encouraged by it. As I have been. Thanks again. Neil Hundtoft

[@letsgoeverywhere]

There's a whole sect and churches devoted to St Thomas in South India, in Kerala. I have pics and video of an Easter procession I passed while there

[@PeterBolland]

I’ve heard about those. Amazing!

[@wesleygovender6579]

🙏

[@solo-boots]

Similar to social media companies silencing dissenting opinions...history repeats itself

[@PeterBolland]

I for one am glad that social media corporations, privately held companies, exert editorial control over content posted on their platforms. I am a big fan of silencing or at least marginalizing Holocaust deniers, white supremacists, anti-vaxxers, pedophiles, people who claim that white people descended from Atlantians, and are a different species than people of color, and all manner of the dissemination of lies. I run my Facebook page the same way. The "delete" button is our friend. The freedom of speech clause in the US Constitution only says that the government can't censor its critics -- it says nothing of what private companies can do. So when Facebook deletes your post (it's happened to me), it's not, properly speaking, "censorship." It's editorial control. They are two very different things.

[@SharonBalloch]

' Rather, the kingdom of the father is spread out upon the earth, and men do not see it." (114) Simon Peter said to him, "Let Mary leave us, for women are not worthy of life." Jesus said, "I myself shall lead her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males.

[@brendabenitez7359]

Have you ever read the gospel of Mary Magdalene? If so will you be interested in making a video just like this one. These teachings are amazing

[@PeterBolland]

Hi Brenda. First of all, thanks for watching and commenting. And no, not really. I'm skimmed it, but haven't studied it deeply. You're right though -- it would make for a great video. Thanks for the request!

[@Newfoundmike]

The movie was great

[@mikelion2743]

I have always found it interesting the idea the Our Father made is His child die for our sins. When the all He had to do was send His knowing child to help awaken His unknowing children. Our Father is the protector of all life and would not cause harm to any of His creation, including the animals and unnecessary harm to fauna and flora.

[@PeterBolland]

Mike, I hear you, and I completely agree that from that perspective, the whole God-sending-himself-to-die-for-our-sins narrative is pretty nuts. Until you realize that it's a universal archetype. It's called "the dying god motif," and is found through world religion and mythology. (Here's a video I did on it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGWUk4aVrtGlmck). Seen through this lens, the whole Christian narrative shifts into focus. The Father God no longer looks like a bad dad, but as a loving sacred presence who participates in the impermanence of all forms along with the rest of us, in order to lead us to the realization of our own participation in divinity.

[@mikelion2743]

@@PeterBolland Thank you very much for responding to my message and sharing the link. I just watched it and it was really interesting. I do have a bit of a different experience though. I hope you don't mind if I share it with you. A Father participating in impermanence is only one aspect of living a full life(towards awaking) and serving one's life purpose. Others may be devotion, awareness and a feeling of all other beings as if it is your one feeling. This being the beginning of the experience of the interconnectedness of everything in creation as if it is your own. The infinitely compassionate heart. I think there are different types of renunciation/dying/sacrifice. One being the sacrifice/renunciation of 'untruth' in one's heart/soul. One aspect of this sacrifice is causing harm to other living beings. Giving up this practice is due to the experience of feeling in the soul the interconnectedness of all life. We are forever one with the Divine and with that connection, if one brings harm to another, this causes even God to weep. As God feels the creation itself, as it is never separate from Him. The trickster god, I think is not a real God unless It's intention is to bring about realization to all of It's creation. If It has come to cause harm then I don't see this as God but one who is deluded and ignorant. We are also creating in this incredible creation. We are not separate from God but within It. Contributing to the creation of this world. Human beings for example sometimes cause harm and destroy life and God creates in order to ease our suffering that we are creating. I don't think it’s a coincidence for example that the jungles have plants that are medicines for living beings or that everything in this world has been created perfectly for us in order for us to live a life that can be filled with overflowing joy and happiness. We have food from the plants, water, sunshine, air, beauty and the possibility to open one's heart/soul to love all of creation. Peter, Thank you ever so much for taking the time out to read my response. I found your channel today and I have already watched 3 videos. Really interesting but more importantly is think is your sincerity.

[@syu293]

🙏🏻❤️

[@asgarextassyforces7239]

the gospel of Thomas is very easy to read for Muslims to understand in terms of theology, spirituality, history to mystical sufism. reminds the beautiful words of Joseph Cambel about the prophet Muhammad from a mystical perspective

[@PeterBolland]

Yes, I see what you mean.

[@asgarextassyforces7239]

@@PeterBolland it is an honor to speak with you sir, may the force be with you

[@FrankNStein-pf9rr]

I like the Gospel of Mary & mainly because the disciples asked her questions AND each time a disciple asked her a question, it says, and Mary wept. It did not matter what the question was. Of course after she got through weeping, she answered the question. THEN, after she answered the question, another disciple asked her a question, and Mary wept.

[@PeterBolland]

Turns out there is a lot of weeping in philosophy. Most of us just hide it though.

[@pastorwilliamhay1687]

Truthfully if one would just add this gospel to the NT they would have it all All

[@hulahands7833]

Robert Sepehr sent me

[@marcco44]

i have this very edition!

[@PeterBolland]

I love this one. It's so great to have the Aramaic on one side, and the English on the other. Very cool!

[@BritneyToomey]

I love your musings over this beautiful gospel. I resonated deeply with it while reading it, however, I was really caught off guard by the end, 19-26. I am trying to find the metaphorical insight, but it’s difficult. “Women are not worthy of the Life .” Would love to hear your thoughts, as you have a beautifully understandable way in your explanations.

[@PeterBolland]

Thanks Britney for watching, and for your kind words. I have the same reaction as you every time I get to the "anti-women" passages in the GOT. (I'm not sure what you mean by "19-26" -- are those the page numbers of the edition you're reading?) Here is verse 114, the last verse in the GOT: "Simon Peter said to them, 'Mary should leave us, for females are not worthy of life.' Jesus said, 'Look, I shall guide her to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every female who makes herself male will enter heaven's kingdom." So, I suppose it's obvious that Jesus is not suggest gender reassignment surgery to literally make all women into men, as if that were even possible. Rather, some interpreters suggest that in the coded language of this culture, "female" referred to the body, our corporeal selves, while "male" referred to our souls, our spiritual selves. Following that then, each of us, men and women, have a "female" nature and a "male" nature (much like Jung's "anima" and "animus"). Any line wrenched out of context can be jarring. But when we pull back and look at Jesus's entire life and ministry, it's immediately obvious that he was the least sexist guy in Judea. He routinely bucked the gender norms of his traditional Jewish culture by spending a lot of time with women, eating meals with women, and trusting women in positions of leadership.

[@BritneyToomey]

@@PeterBolland Ahh yes, that makes sense. Yes, those are the lines I was referring to. I was drawing on Jung for insight here, too! This is just the clarification I was seeking! I may have been overlaying our current cultural undertones against this which is clearly not helpful! I think Jung perhaps put it more succinctly "If you pay close attention, you will see that the most masculine man has a feminine soul, and the most feminine woman has a masculine soul." But I like what you said about the coded language of that culture, perhaps the female becoming male was akin to finding the Holy Spirit within?

[@BritneyToomey]

And I would also add, "Mary should leave us, for females not worthy of life" could mean this flesh life doesn't stand up to the timeless and everlasting essence of the spirit. These corporeal vessels leave us, they come and go, but when you're attuned with God (Look, I shall guide her), then you become a living spirit.

[@SharonBalloch]

' Rather, the kingdom of the father is spread out upon the earth, and men do not see it." (114) Simon Peter said to him, "Let Mary leave us, for women are not worthy of life." Jesus said, "I myself shall lead her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males.

[@TVmediaable]

"All that there is I exist. I am the beginning and the end. I AM who he was and who he is. It is I who is the all." - Thomas Soler #PrinceofPeace #Wonderful #Counselor #MightyGod #EverlastingFather

[@Laotzu.Goldbug]

I think in a way both are true: some people already for the Gospel of Thomas, most need the Gospel of John et al (and will never be capable of more). Psychics, Hylics, Somatics, etc.

[@GnosticXMusic]

The Gospel of Thomas is the single greatest spiritual book I've ever read.

[@PeterBolland]

It has that impact on people doesn’t it? It’s truly remarkable.

[@869475397]

@@PeterBolland Thank you, Thank you. Can you recommend a book? Found it. 🙂

[@mr.cinemapresents]

👌👌👌👌👌👌 ✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️

[@troybreedlove4195]

I seen pretty good evidence Jesus is buried in kashmir India and lived to be 80 some years old. Thanks for the video, I love the book of Thomas.

[@tammaradillard]

Wonder if the Roman Catholic church released all the books and information they have hidden from everyone but to themselves, would our Gospels be totally different?

[@christopher17701-D]

I pondered once. Imagine there is a giant zipper that reaches across the heavens. The zipper is pulled open, and the physical universe then rolls apart, like a scroll, to reveal what is the origin of everything thing there is. What is revealed is the sources of gravity, electricity, heat. The source of a stars fuel, the force of the wind, and the spark of ALL life force. That origin is God, in all of the names given. Showing us that that’s all there really is, is God. Including each and every one of us! Our ego’s, where our mindsets are formed by the external experiences we are living through/ in, and our conscious and unconscious memories we accumulate, can blur our realizing that its all God. Am I making any sense? Lol…I hope I’m expressing my thoughts in an understandable way. Thank you.

[@PeterBolland]

A beautiful vision.

[@watermelonlalala]

The winners write the history books. What a concept.

[@Joel-np9vl]

Congratulations to the one who came into being before coming into being. I find this interesting when thinking about the book of Revelation talking about the Man child, the dragon that sent the flooding after the woman Revelation 12:15

[@jimcoco1039]

So what are the 3 "special" teachings/messages Jesus gave to Thomas? Anyone?

[@PeterBolland]

They are, evidently, best left unspoken.

[@wojciech1159]

Thank you for your time and sharing yours thoughts. I have the answer for you about what was the tree wards Jesus said to Thomas This wards will create incomprehension,anger, blasphemy, limit of endurance could turn into uncontrollable effects like killing What do you think about this tree wards? 1 YOU 2 ARE 2 GOD

[@PeterBolland]

Your guess is as good as mine (or anyone's).

[@wojciech1159]

It all depends on the level of enlightenment you have and where you come from. What can upset orthodox people raised in the traditions of the old testament to the point that they may be able to take the life of a fellow apostle

[@Newfoundmike]

Constantine was a Losey editor 😉

[@psylocibin9359]

Came here by Robert Sepehr

[@PeterBolland]

What's your take on Robert Sepehr? Is he legit? I find some of his claims somewhat troubling. He is an outcast from the legitimate world of anthropology, and his ideas have found a home (and a deep fan base) among Holocaust deniers and other white supremacists. I really don't know much about him, but the comment threads on his videos are a little scary. Also, he did not ask for my permission before copying most of my Gospel of Thomas video for his video. He doesn't even mention me in the video. At least he lists me in the credits.

[@marktoth4379]

@@PeterBolland I wasn't the person you asked but I hope it's ok if I answer. Robert Sephre is just a very "matter-of-fact" kind of person. He simply states facts. Albeit, unapologetically and without sugar coating. He comes off as someone who is making a statement/point by not telling people what or how to think. He even makes it clear by emphasizing that he will let the viewer figure it out. In my opinion he, like many others are sick and tired of people, in general picking "political correctness" over knowledge and the truth. I honestly believe that the fact that he has the nerve to utter things that aren't "allowed" to be uttered anymore is what makes him popular and appreciated by his viewers. One can only cast a negative light on his work and/or find it offensive if only observing from a very superficial level. If optics are a person's "thing" and they get their knickers in a twist over someone showing swastikas even though it's strictly for educational purposes(basically if one is all about the show and how things "appear") and they can't look at things simply for what they are without attaching feelings, emotions and/or political motivated agendas to them. He definitely goes out if his way to emphasize the simple concept of "a spade being a spade". He probably does enjoy ruffling some snowflakes feathers but who can blame him for that really?🤷‍♂️ I can't... As far as the comments go. I'm pretty certain that he doesn't put the info he does out to entertain hatred and racism. But to entertain that kind of ridiculousness by altering his material would totally defeat the purpose of bot playing into the very thing he opposes. Which is sacrificing knowledge and truth for feelings, emotions, political correctness and/or other personal alterior motives. As far as feeling slighted over using your material without asking is a bit out of line and somewhat ungrateful even. He is pretty much acknowledging you/your work. Making it known that he respects and enjoys your content. He could have just paraphrased the things you said. However he got you quite a bit of views, likes and subscribers even by respectfully sourcing your published material. I understand that you were inquiring about him. It did however come across like you had already formed a pretty solid opinion about him. I don't think that was fair. Please don't be like all these snowflake clowns that try to please the 'woke' mob with optics, appearances and all the other superficial, sugar-coated, watered-down BS thats holding us all back from having real conversations and gaining gnostis. Give him a chance. Obviously he likes your work. That most likely isn't because his perspectives and values are in total opposition of yours. Probably quite the opposite. Thank you sir! Keep up the great work! God bless!

[@psylocibin9359]

@@marktoth4379 one word; wauw! Its not my anwer but i couldnt have state it better. Thank you 🙏

[@Aleksandra.DaGreat]

I believe the earlier civilization you’re referring to prior to Greek were called Ilirians.

[@guerillaguru8650]

I live the same and speak the same tongue(but i'm rude),studied much from age of 17 to this date. Gnothi seauton!

[@richardhotchkiss2928]

Where can I buy it?

[@PeterBolland]

Richard, the Amazon link is in the video description (right below the video).

[@kiraalialeeonfairythegreenone]

The New New Testament (a Bible for the 21st century)-edited with commentary by Hal Taussig is available and worth reading and rereading.( Mariner publishing company, 2013). The New New Testament includes The Gospels of Mary, Thomas, Truth and John as well as all of the known gospels. The New New Testament also includes the extraordinary Acts of Paul and Thecla and the amazingly beautiful- The Thunder Perfect Mind... and so much more.(The Prayer of Thanksgiving) The New New Testament is superbly compiled, clearly explained, non judgmental. The New New Testament includes a complex companion that covers history and timeline. A wonderful, large volume where the once dismissed, discredited or censored gospels,texts, stories and parables have now found their rightful place... they are now where they were meant to be in the first place. The Gospel of Mary is truly eye opening.

[@rockydj1000]

As a Vedantan, how can I not love Jesus? Thank you Peter again for such a wonderful video. I couldn’t find your video on Gospel of Mary. If you haven’t done a video on that, Can you please cover it. Also love to hear your thoughts on Christian mystics like Meister Eckart, Marguerite Porete and more. Love to here your soothing voice. Thank you🙏🏽

[@PeterBolland]

Hi, and thank you for your kind feedback. I have not done a video on the Gospel of Mary, but I'll try to get around to it. And yes, I'd love to dip into the Christian mystics as well. Thanks for the requests!