The Gospels: How Harmonizing The Gospels Destroys Them

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[@jamesswagerty16]

Fundamentalists make outrageous claims about the truth, inerrancy and Power of their theology. Humility and questioning is not part of their DNA.

[@jackylee_jack]

I just love Dr Tabor! So privileged to have him freely share his lessons with us n im learning so much from him! Keep up the good work, Derek. Watching ur videos here from Malaysia.

[@trina2100]

Just created a new playlist "MythVision Faves". This was great! Dr. Tabor is one of my favorite guests. Idk how I'll find time to get through his whole channel and yours and be Patreon members but I shall try. Love your channel Derrick.

[@goldilockswaspoorlysupervi9518]

Went to sleep listening to Dr Tabor...he got incorporated into my dreams...after a lengthy lecture our assignment from him was to write our impressions of who the character of Jesus was. He gave us license to express ourselves freely....and yes, there was a QnA!

[@geraldmeehan8942]

Derek, Crossan & Tabor back to back, you're starting your "western ministry" off with authority !

[@robbielee2148]

I was a little hesitant watching a channel with myth in it's moniker, but I noted so many acclaimed scholars here I had to give it a try. So glad I did, as it's proved to be my new favorite channel. IDK how Derek ever got started or managed to get all these top names involved but kudos & thx all around!

[@waytoblue625]

Wow! Thank you Derek and Dr Tabor 🙏🕯️🌹💞

[@davidburroughs2244]

When four authors, minimum, take their cut on the same story and are so impressed with their own doctrine and importance, do not give a hoot what anyone else has previously written - "Stand back! Be amazed! Here is what really happened, why I am so important, and why my version replaces the others as if they were never written before my own!"

[@termination9353]

The Gospel of Jesus was originally one book, written by Lazarus in consultation with the Apostles [John 21:24] and published soon after Jesus left them on their own. The religion was hijacked by Rome, the Gospel was broken up scrambled adulterated into a bunch of competing narratives. Later four of those adulterated gospels were canonized with falsely ascribed authorship and a Gnosticism cover-story. It was the finding of an original Gospel of Jesus scroll in Jerusalem that gained the Knights Templar power over the Church and their eventual undoing when the church finally retaliated against them Friday 13th.

[@mikejurney9102]

@@termination9353 And what proof do you have for this conspiracy theory?

[@termination9353]

@@mikejurney9102 Well to start with the Gospel EVIDENCE itself saying Lazarus wrote it. Did you somehow skip over that FACT?

[@davidburroughs2244]

@@termination9353 that's fascinating and even possible. Prove it and you will earn your laurels in scholarship.

[@aralornwolf3140]

@@termination9353 , Since you haven't shown your statements to be true and it has been over a month... I take it you lack evidence of your claims.

[@questioneveryclaim1159]

Yes, there are those just as curious as you two and will watch a three hour video. Thanks Dr. Tabor and Derek!

[@Siyanda82]

This is excellent - thank you!

[@AcerbusFive]

Thank you.

[@Catanonimus777]

This is awesome

[@geico1975]

So many interesting insights and I love learning about all of them. About the resurrection, totally neat how Mark is a lot more dull concerning it verses Matthew and Luke. However, while they're are differences, even stark differences in the details and content I fail to appreciate it as much as Dr. Tabor does, as well as mnay other Biblical authorities on the subject. The fact is, and the MOST important and impressive point is the resurrection and all the gospels have that main point about it. In other words, while I appreciate the "earthquake" and other details Matthew and Luke lay out, and maybe those "writers" thought they needed more astonishing details I don't know. Mark doesn't need them in my opinion, because "he has risen" I think that's the silver bullet. Mark says, "He has risen..." Matthew says, "for he has risen..." Luke says, "but is risen..."

[@marcusaurelius7289]

I LOL'D at 6 source hypothesis because Dr. Tabor is absolutely correct.

[@TernaryM01]

That's just a matter of terminology, and I prefer to call it 4-source hypothesis. M and L shouldn't count because they're never hypothesized as existing as documents. Rather, M only ever exists as part of Matthew and L only ever exists as part of Luke.

[@marcusaurelius7289]

M and L have been proposed as independent sources.

[@TernaryM01]

@@marcusaurelius7289 I'm unaware of that. Must be not a very popular theory... Now of course, the two-source hypothesis in itself doesn't say one way or the other on whether M or L or both are independent sources. Should that then mean it should be called the 4/5/6-source hypothesis?

[@edwardmiessner6502]

The thing is, M and L could be bits of Q that Matt and Luke each respectively liked and the other didn't.

[@Snackitalist]

Trying to make the Bible seems like one big puzzle… of which it seems it entails who can connect the onion to something as random rainfall. It’s always been a thing but now we have scientific method to prove and disprove things, Christianity is so 1000 AD 😂

[@davidburroughs2244]

Worse, I am afraid, seems it is so 2000, 1000, 500, 300, 200, 100, 70, 50 ... and, the apologetics and shifting dogma, doctrines, facts and stories have and continue to be modified as more and more "moden day" questions "must be addressed, must be answered."

[@greylonewolf8750]

Hi Derek,could you do a video presentation on the topics of gospel of Judas and influence of gnosticism/Manichaesm/Zorastrianism etc on Islam?

[@voicesoftoday7583]

I am praying that the Gospel of Derek Lambert will spread to the four corners of the earth.

[@myth6142]

Time to put my tinfoil hat for the flat earth theorists 😆

[@4everchristian]

Belive in JESUS CHRIST and be save . Believe not and you are already condemned. In love and in the hope i see you in heaven. A Christian

[@edwardmiessner6502]

James Tabor said Mark was sort of an anti-gospel. Maybe it was originally written as an antigospel ending at 15:39 and additions were made to make it a gospel (canonical Mark, secret Mark, and the long Marks).

[@stevenv6463]

You'll be in the land of Canaan in October? I may be there at that time. Hope I run into y'all around that time as my wife and I will do some tourism.

[@rainbowkrampus]

Well, shit. I hadn't really delved too much into the whole "which gospel came first" thing. Frankly I never really cared. After watching this, I felt compelled to look because a few statements supporting Marcan priority didn't add up for me. Now, from what I can see, there's no reason whatsoever to be certain that Mark came first. It's possible, certainly not out of the question, but the certainty some people seem to throw behind it. I can't get onboard with that. The thing that really stands out to me is the colloquial nature of Mark. It reads exactly like someone relaying a complex topic to someone who was just hearing about it for the first time. Complete with unique little asides which might be of more relevance to the audience in question. It can clearly be read as someone who was familiar with something like Matt or Luke but who was less concerned with thoroughness and more concerned with being understood/conveying a particular message. What a religion. Lacks internal consistency. Contradicts the text that supposedly precedes it. Can't be certain your holy figure was ever a real dude in the first place. Can't even be sure what order your books about your holy dude were written in. I'm glad I'm an atheist. If I were still a believer, trying to figure out this stuff I'd staked my identity on would drive me nuts... which might explain a thing or two actually.

[@TheMahayanist]

Very good reasons to think Mark came first. If Mark used Matthew and Luke, why did he not include all of the good stuff from Luke? Luke has probably the best stuff of any Gospel. Mark would just cut all that out? And Mark copies Matthew verbatim. If Mark copied Matthew verbatim, why cut stuff out? If you're plagiarizing something it's much easier to add stuff than cut stuff out because then you have to decide which stuff to keep and what to cut. I'm not a 'follow the consensus ' guy, but Markan priority easily makes the most sense of the evidence.

[@somniumisdreaming]

I love the internet, You've never thought about it until now then googled for a bit and now have an argument. Do you read Greek? Edit : that sounds harsh, I do the same thing. Also I totally agree with your views on this religion.

[@historicalbiblicalresearch8440]

There's one thing we can be absolutely certain of is that Christianity eventually became the dominant religion of the Roman empire Everything about how it got there is up for debate

[@battlerushiromiya651]

It kind of make sense once you stop sweating the small details

[@davidburroughs2244]

The order of things is pretty well argued from 40 minutes on. There are several studies of this well worth studying to catch the variety of the arguments. One is definitely left with a "these were not written and published as a thorough attempt to tell the exact and same story" feeling.

[@alexxela8956]

It's a bit confusing after the first comparison, but im only about thirty two minutes into this. Also it takes a while to realise it's John the Baptist because the guest just calls himJohn. Then there's a comparison but without both texts next to each other. Edit: For me it gets interesting after thirty five minutes so worth the wait

[@hendrikbarboritsch7003]

I wish someone who has the time would condense these interesting discussion down to the juiciest bits. Like half an hour.

[@ready1fire1aim1]

I think it's interesting how the Northern Kingdom (Israel) and the Southern Kingdom (Judah) got flip-flopped with the renaming of Jacob to Israel and Esau to Edom.

[@trinchezito1383]

1:22:00 one gospel talks about 2 men too in the pig story while mark refers to only one

[@marcusaurelius7289]

1h37s David Trobisch First Edition of the NT?

[@stevenv6463]

1:06:00 but what is the significance of Matthew taking out the first part of the shema?

[@psilosydetrusenses4125]

In the original Gospels/Epistle’s do they use Iēsous or a Hebrew name?

[@edwardmiessner6502]

Assuming the originals were in Greek, and I'm convinced of that, the authors used Iēsous. Once the Jews found out about this guy, they started calling him Yeshu. Even Irenaeus in his Against Heresies said the Jewish name for Jesus had only 2-1/2 letters that spelled out Yeshu.

[@marcusaurelius7289]

Neither, the manuscripts use nomina sacra so everytime you'd expect to read Iesous you get something like IC with a line over it. Similar with Christ = XC

[@edwardmiessner6502]

@@marcusaurelius7289 Arrrrrgh just like with Orthodox icons! Which just triggered my memory: they also used chirhograms and taurhograms to abbreviate Christ and the Greek stauros & staurow. 😫

[@termination9353]

The Gospel of Jesus was originally one book, written by Lazarus in consultation with the Apostles [John 21:24] and published soon after Jesus left them on their own. The religion was hijacked by Rome, the Gospel was broken up scrambled adulterated into a bunch of competing narratives. Later four of those adulterated gospels were canonized with falsely ascribed authorship and a Gnosticism cover-story. It was the finding of an original Gospel of Jesus scroll in Jerusalem that gained the Knights Templar power over the Church and their eventual undoing when the church finally retaliated against them Friday 13th.

[@psilosydetrusenses4125]

@@termination9353 lol. I’m happy you’ve convinced yourself of that. However the rest of us value evidence over unfounded tradition claims

[@petmensan]

How do scholars know Matthew didn’t just make up the sayings? Why do they have to come up with a hypothetical document?

[@termination9353]

The Gospel of Jesus was originally one book, written by Lazarus in consultation with the Apostles [John 21:24] and published soon after Jesus left them on their own. The religion was hijacked by Rome, the Gospel was broken up scrambled adulterated into a bunch of competing narratives. Later four of those adulterated gospels were canonized with falsely ascribed authorship and a Gnosticism cover-story. It was the finding of an original Gospel of Jesus scroll in Jerusalem that gained the Knights Templar power over the Church and their eventual undoing when the church finally retaliated against them Friday 13th.

[@integrationalpolytheism]

01:36:50 - it’s not Steve Mason, is it?

[@YenkammaNe]

WHAT IS SPECIAL ABOUT BEING A HINDU? By Francois Gautier. *Diversity in Divinity and Unity in Spirituality.* Be Your Own Messiah. 1) Believe in God ! - Aastik - Accepted 2) Don't believe in God ! - You're accepted as Nastik 3) You want to worship idols - please go ahead. You are a murti pujak. 4) You dont want to worship idols - no problem. You can focus on Nirguna Brahman. 5) You want to criticise something in our religion. Come forward. We are logical. Nyaya, Tarka etc. are core Hindu schools. 6) You want to accept beliefs as it is. Most welcome. Please go ahead with it. 7) You want to start your journey by reading Bhagvad Gita - Sure ! 8) You want to start your journey by reading Upanishads - Go ahead. 9) You want to start your journey by reading Purana - Be my guest. 10) You just don't like reading Puranas or other books. No problem my dear. Go by Bhakti tradition . ( bhakti- devotion) 11) You don't like idea of Bhakti ! No problem. Do your Karma. Be a karmayogi. 12) You want to enjoy life. Very good. No problem at all. This is Charvaka Philosophy. 13) You want to abstain from all the enjoyment of life & find God - jai ho ! Be a Sadhu, an ascetic ! 14) You don't like the concept of God. You believe in Nature only - Welcome. (Trees are our friends and Prakriti or nature is worthy of worship). 15) You believe in one God or Supreme Energy. Superb! Follow Advaita philosophy 16) You want a Guru. Go ahead. Receive gyaan. 17) You don't want a Guru.. Help yourself ! Meditate, Study ! 18) You believe in Female energy ! Shakti is worshipped. 19) You believe that every human being is equal. Yeah! You're awesome, come on let's celebrate Hinduism! "Vasudhaiva kutumbakam" (the world is a family) 20) You don't have time to celebrate the festival. Don't worry. One more festival is coming! There are multiple festivals every single day of the year. 21) You are a working person. Don't have time for religion. Its okay. You will still be a Hindu. 22) You like to go to temples. Devotion is loved. 23) You don't like to go to temples - no problem. You are still a Hindu! 24) You know that Hinduism is a way of life, with considerable freedom. 25) You believe that everything has God in it. So you worship your mother, father, guru, tree, River, Prani-matra, Earth, Universe! 26) And If you don't believe that everything has GOD in it - No problems. Respect your viewpoint. 27) "Sarve jana sukhino bhavantu " (May you all live happily) You represent this! You're free to choose, my dear Hindu! This is exactly the essence of Hinduism, all inclusive .. That is why it has withstood the test of time inspite of repeated onslaught both from within and outside, and assimilated every good aspects from everything . That is why it is eternal !!! There is a saying in Rigveda , the first book ever known to mankind which depicts the Hinduism philosophy in a Nutshell -" Ano bhadrah Krathavo Yanthu Vishwathah"- Let the knowledge come to us from every directions

[@appnzllr]

Why does there have to be a Q? Why couldn't Matthew redact Mark, and Luke redact Matthew and Mark? He's got a theory and he reads the evidence to prove it.

[@11kravitzn]

Luke directly implies that John didn't baptize Jesus, since in 3:20, before Jesus is baptized, John is in jail.

[@henryschmit3340]

That obviously depends on your idea of "harmonizing", which obviously has nothing to do with the Gospels.

[@ThatPrettyBMF]

The "Like" count was 666 before I showed up. Sorry, everyone. 😅

[@yvonnegordon1952]

the gospels are FOUR LEVELS of REGENERATION of the same SOUL (YHVH): From beast to MAN:

[@erikhaynes5506]

I feel Dr. Tabor is being dishonest when he says the KJV added the liturgical parts of the Lord's prayer willy nilly when the NIV says its based on later manuscripts.

[@roxy5154]

Btw, who are all of these people with western names? Did ANY of them ever exist?

[@geneschmidt8308]

They’re Greek names. Israel had been hellenized by the conquests of Alexander the Great. This made Greek the world language. So many of these people in the gospel have Greek names. These names then get translated from Greek into your language.

[@ready1fire1aim1]

Can you talk about the two different YHWH's? Seems like nobody is even aware there were two...

[@curbroadshow]

Do you mean two Yahweh’s? And if so, why, or do you mean Yahweh and El/Elohim?

[@ready1fire1aim1]

@@curbroadshow There's only one Yahweh but there are two YHWH. Northern Kingdom YHWH and Southern Kingdom YHWH. Northern is pronounced Yehowah and the Samaritan Pentateuch has 6000 differences from the Hebrew Pentateuch.

[@curbroadshow]

@@ready1fire1aim1 thank you, that’s interesting. Have you a link to the Samaritan Pentateuch?

[@ready1fire1aim1]

@@curbroadshow Omg I wish. There's only like a thousand Samaritan Israelites left and as far as I can tell they don't mass produce their Pentateuch. I'm working on my own copy still...

[@ready1fire1aim1]

@@curbroadshow What do Samaritans believe in terms of the Bible? Samaritans believe that the Jewish Torah, and Judaism, have been corrupted by time and no longer serve the duties that God mandated to the Israelites on Mount Sinai. The holiest site for Samaritans in their faith is Mount Gerizim near Nablus, while Jews view the Temple Mount in Jerusalem as their most sacred location. The Samaritan religion: Their principal canonical text and main norm of religious observance is the Samaritan Pentateuch. The Samaritan Pentateuch contains the basic text of the first five books of the Hebrew Bible, yet there are about 6,000 differences between it and the masoretic Jewish version. Why did the Judahites not like the Samaritans? The Jews called them "half-breeds" and sent them home. The Samaritans built their own temple which the Jews considered pagan. The feud grew, and by the time of Christ, the Jews hated the Samaritans so much they crossed the Jordan river rather than travel through Samaria.

[@yongmeiGao]

1:01:10

[@mjt532]

Is Tabor a Christian?

[@andrewmarvel6635]

I disagree with Dr.Tabor. Chronologically harmonizing the Gospels does not destroy them, it reveals two over arching events ( the making straight the way and the Acceptable Year of the Lord) two ministries. There is an equation to the chronological order, Dr.Tabor just doesn’t know it.

[@mjt532]

I don't trust scholars named Kermit.

[@TheMahayanist]

Jordan Peterson?

[@davidburroughs2244]

It is almost as if someone is engineering something... while wearing a green suit, too - (to touch all the bases...)

[@paulbrown609]

I think he didn’t want die for nobody

[@auntiehollyd6395]

Who? Jesus? Not sure he even existed

[@sdlorah6450]

The frank and artless narratives of the Bible are so obviously indifferent to the appearance of consistency and show so clearly that irregularity, which is the sure mark of honest handwork in the Oriental rug, and of spontaneity in human testimony, that they have often lured opponents into attempts at destructive cross-examination which have only brought the Bible's truths and consistency into clearer light. (Quote from the book titled A Lawyer Examines the Bible by Irwin Linton as cited on The Berean Call ([.org.], Reconciling 'Flaws' in the Bible, November 16, 2001)

[@epicofgilgamesh9964]

Happy reading. "When we say…Jesus Christ…was produced without sexual union, and was crucified and died, and rose again, and ascended to heaven, ***we propound nothing new or different*** *from what you believe regarding those whom you call Sons of God. [In fact]…if anybody objects that [Jesus] was crucified, this is in* ***common*** *with the sons of Zeus (as you call them) who suffered, as previously listed [he listed Dionysus, Hercules, and Asclepius].* Since their fatal sufferings are all narrated as not similar but different, so his unique passion should not seem to be any worse." *Note how Justin (Martyr) is less of a fool than modern Christian apologists. He admits that differences don’t matter.* Since each and every one of the suffering and dying gods are slain by different means, one cannot argue the mytheme requires exactly the same means of death. “But Osiris can’t have inspired the Jesus myth because Osiris wasn’t nailed to a cross” is a stupid argument. The mytheme is simply death. Being killed. Suffering and dying. The exact mode of death can vary freely. It makes no difference to the existence and influence of the mytheme. It’s simply the particular instantiation of a generic abstraction. *And Justin’s argument (that Satan invented these fake religions to confuse people) entails Justin agreed the mytheme existed: indeed, it was demonically promulgated, multiple times. Intentionally.* *Likewise, Justin notices the mytheme is not virgin birth, but sexless conception. Of which many examples had already been popularized in pagan mythology (there just happens to also have been examples of actual virgin born gods as well). And by his argument (that the Devil was deliberately emulating the Jesus mytheme, in advance), Justin clearly accepted the same principle for “rising again” after death:* the particular exact metaphysics of the resurrection could, like the exact method of death or conception, vary freely. The mytheme consists solely of the abstraction: returning to life. Somehow. Some way. We will say bodily, at the very least. But what sort of body (the same one, a new one, a mortal one, an immortal one), didn’t matter. *If it had, Justin would have made the argument that “those gods” weren’t really resurrected. But that argument, never occurs to him. Nor did it to any other apologist of the first three centuries.* *Ancient Christians well knew there was nothing new about their dying-and-rising god. Not in respect to the mytheme.* Their claims were solely that his particular instantiation of it was better, and the only one that actually happened. *They didn’t make up the stupid modern arguments that dying-and-rising god myths didn’t exist or weren’t part of a common mytheme everyone knew about. For example, in the same century, Tertullian, in Prescription against Heretics 40, makes exactly the same argument as Justin. Funny that. They had better access to the evidence than we do. They knew what was really and widely the case. We should listen to them.* Google *"Dying-and-Rising Gods: It's Pagan, Guys. Get Over It. • Richard Carrier"* ------------------------------------------------------------------ In addition, look up the below articles. *"Ehrman Errs: Yes, Bart, There Were Dying & Rising Gods - atheologica"* Watch *"Dying & Rising Gods: A Response to William Lane Craig"* by Derreck Bennett at Atheologica. *"The First Easters: Death and Resurrection Before Christ | atheologica"* *"The Christs Before Christ: Tammuz-Adonis | atheologica"* Watch *"Asclepius: The Pre-Christian Healer & Savior"* by Derreck Bennett at Atheologica *"Virgin Birth: It's Pagan, Guys. Get Over It. • Richard Carrier"* *"5 Pagan Parallels to Jesus That Actually Aren’t Bullshit - Atheomedy"* *"Christian Apologetics: The Art of Deceit - Atheomedy"* *"Isaiah 53 & the Suffering Servant | atheologica"* *"Defending the Resurrection: It’s Easy if You Lie! - Atheomedy"* *"Rising Gods, Pagan Parallels, and Cultural Context: A Response to M. David Litwa | atheologica"* *"An Evidence Attested Resurrection? - chromosome two"* *"The Empty Tomb: A Rhetorical Dead End - atheologica"* *"Theological Dodgeball: On the Posturing of Faith over Reason | atheologica"* *"Majority of Scholars agree: The Gospels were not written by Eyewitnesses - Escaping Christian Fundamentalism"* A good site written by an actual Biblical scholar. *"Contradictions in the Bible | Identified verse by verse and explained using the most up-to-date scholarly information about the Bible, its texts, and the men who wrote them -- by Dr. Steven DiMattei"* *"How do we know that the biblical writers were* ***not*** *writing history? -- by Dr Steven DiMattei"* Also: *"How Did The Gospel Writers Know? - The Doston Jones Blog"* *"Yes, the Four Gospels Were Originally Anonymous: Part 1 - The Doston Jones Blog"* *"Are Stories in the Bible Influenced by Popular Greco-Roman Literature? - The Doston Jones Blog"* *"Gospels Not Written By Matthew, Mark, Luke or John - The Church Of Truth"*

[@sdlorah6450]

@@epicofgilgamesh9964 In the history of mankind, we find that the knowledge of the true God was largely corrupted by time and the idolatrous hearts of men. Nations were so given over to idolatrous beliefs and practices that God said of them: For all the gods of the nations are idols, but the LORD made the heavens (Psalm 96:5). The written word of God sets men straight concerning the true God and the true Messiah (see John 17:17). We can know the true Christ from the counterfeits based upon the word of God and prophetic verses about him (see Luke 24:25-27). Often, the words ‘it is written,’ or ‘that the scriptures might be fulfilled,’ are found in the Bible, pointing us back to the immovable, unchangeable scriptures that confirm the work of God in Jesus Christ, the only Savior of men. Without the resurrection, there is NO Christianity. There were witnesses to the sufferings of Christ and his resurrection. These witnesses, at the expense of their own comfort and safety and/or lives, spread the message of the gospel. The Bible’s message of men being reconciled to God through faith in Jesus Christ has gone out into the nations, just as the Bible predicted thousands of years ago (see 2 Corinthians 5:18-21, Luke 24:46-49). With the giving of the scriptures and the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ, the time for ignorance is past: And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent (Acts 17:30).

[@eugenerossouw1274]

@@epicofgilgamesh9964 Thank you, you are a great source of info.

[@epicofgilgamesh9964]

@@eugenerossouw1274 You are welcome.

[@marcusaurelius7289]

Lol this dumb shit that the gospels are so inconsistent they must be true apologetic pablum.

[@berglen100]

Its not that powerful with same type of truth was Imaginations is a common defense for and against each other, plenty of hidden examples where apply what creates friction to becoming real happening not seen first, did you even consider Luke 17:20And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: 21Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you. Now basing your ability to deside what does the stories actually hint about the all being allegories about flesh and bloods you do need seen and heard is a challenge about your conscience impossible being easy to except, possible does laugh at you. None of stories had findable writers names you base on a provable seen and heard proof about your worlds seen and friend of science with only seeing fictions always seen after Imaginable doubt a strong weakness. Neville Goddard teachings gave me ability to call your bull sh_t same as most christians doubt looking out side is funny.

[@truthgiverandfinder3246]

Christianity being false doesn't make atheism true in fact atheism is also false. The True God Based Religions must be set.

[@canbest7668]

Look up atheism

[@truthgiverandfinder3246]

@@canbest7668 I have and it's b******* claiming there's no God\Gods is simply suicide and purposeless and it's just really murder on yourself not meaning that there can be a Divine you could punish you whether you're dead or alive not giving you purpose and who made you as well as who's going to end you if you do bad

[@truthgiverandfinder3246]

@@canbest7668 atheism standard of evidence is laughable too because they tend to keep moving the goal post just the way same way Christianity does they never hold their position

[@canbest7668]

@@truthgiverandfinder3246 Clearly you don’t know what it is. It’s not saying there’s no God. It’s simply saying I’m not convinced. And that’s the problem. Theists continually have poor arguments. This becomes especially true when you start invoking the words of ancient and ignorant people based on miracle claims. That is when you really start to look foolish

[@canbest7668]

@@truthgiverandfinder3246 sure

[@no_problem8023]

Uhg. More Q talk.

[@alexxela8956]

Luke is more letft wing favouring the poor as opposed to the right winger Matthew who prefers poor in spirit. But Luke could've been wealthy, he was seemingly well educated.

[@randomusername5242]

Is Tabor a TDS sufferer?

[@scripturaltruth7636]

People do not realize who Luke really was Luk 1:3 εδοξεν [It seems good] G1380 V-AAI-3S καμοι [and I? or (Kamoi (a divine being)] G2504 P-1DS-K παρηκολουθηκοτι [to be always present, to attend one wherever he goes] G3877 V-RAP-DSM ανωθεν [from above, from a higher place (of things which come from heaven or God)] G509 ADV πασιν [everyone, all things, everything] G3956 A-DPN ακριβως [exactly, accurately, diligently] G199 ADV καθεξης [one after another, successively, in order] G2517 ADV σοι [you] G4771 P-2DS γραψαι [writing] G1125 V-AAN κρατιστε [most excellent] G2903 A-VSM-S θεοφιλε [Theophilus = “FRIEND OF GOD”] G2321 N-VSM Luke 1: 3 Mechanical Translation: It seems good and I was always present from above (a higher place or heaven) everyone (or all things) diligently one after another writing you most excellent Theophilus (friend of God). Luk 1:4 ινα [in order that, so that] G2443 επιγνως [know accurately] G1921 περι [about, concerning] G4012 ων [who, which, what, that] G3739 κατηχηθης [oral teachings (from Ancient Greek: κατηχέω, "to teach orally") is a summary or exposition of doctrine)] G2727 λογων [words] G3056 την [the] G3588 ασφαλειαν [certainty, undoubted truth/security from enemies and dangers] Luke 1:4 Mechanical Translation In order that know accurately about what the words of undoubted truth (secured from the enemies) taught orally.

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The Gospel of Jesus was originally one book, written by Lazarus in consultation with the Apostles [John 21:24] and published soon after Jesus left them on their own. The religion was hijacked by Rome, the Gospel was broken up scrambled adulterated into a bunch of competing narratives. Later four of those adulterated gospels were canonized with falsely ascribed authorship and a Gnosticism cover-story. It was the finding of an original Gospel of Jesus scroll in Jerusalem that gained the Knights Templar power over the Church and their eventual undoing when the church finally retaliated against them Friday 13th.