The Graphing Abilities of the Xtool D8 Scan Tool and the Biggest Problem it has.

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737mechanic

Жыл бұрын

I made a video of the xtool D8BT scanners graphing abilities.
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@daverichardson7144 6 ай бұрын

Finaly a video that shows more than how tp unbox it. Thanks. Subscrbed

@xtooltutorials Жыл бұрын

Already reported the o2 sensor range issue to the techs for fixing.

@bernardaflores1720 Жыл бұрын

Great job!

@scientist100 Жыл бұрын

My brother just bought the D8 and was wondering about the custom list limitation to just 8 PIDs. I think it should be more even if the refresh rate is slow, we techs understand that refresh rates get slow. Also; the graph option is not always visible and only gives combine at 8 PIDs. I think it was mentioned that if it was fewer PIDs; it would give that option to graph individually. I think the other option which a lot of scanners allow is the custom graphing from the custom list. For instance I want to see the O2 sensors for short and long trims separate in two combined graphs, etc. So far this tool is faster than my Launch Pad II. I will keep using this tool and see; your reply gives hope that you listen to the community. Thank you!

@zw3245 11 ай бұрын

Hi, All xtool product had the possibility to view separetly several graphic on one screen but A30M can't do this, why ?

@boydlittou9446 7 ай бұрын

@@zw3245 I'm very disappointed in the fact that the a30m only graphs one at a time on a page. And my a30m is not fixed on the 02 volt scale. Which makes that pid worthless.

@zw3245 7 ай бұрын

@@boydlittou9446 hi, like me, you have to tell xtool technical support, I think that the more people who say it, the more likely our request will be successful

@eurbanautotech 8 ай бұрын

Thank you! Finally a video that shows how these handle live data like as if you were diagnosing a drivability problem and not just using these as glorified code readers! I need a new scantool. My Autel MS906bt is just way too slow. I was deciding between the Launch X431 V+ PRO and the XTool D9 Pro. The Launch has pretty decent live data viewing with lots of graphs and I never saw how these Xtool's handled more in depth live data. The scaling issue you're showing is annoying but hopefully that'll get fixed or at least I'm pretty sure I could work around it. I think I'm leaning towards the XTool D9 Pro. Thanks for your videos you have on both platforms. I watched quite a few of them and they really made me feel better about making a decision. I gave ya a sub!

@737mechanic 8 ай бұрын

The graphing is really good on the xtool. It is nice and responsive and smooth. I have used some scan tools that the graphing is pretty much worthless.

@eurbanautotech 8 ай бұрын

@@737mechanic I hear ya there. I'm mainly using my Autel MS906bt. It's graphing is annoying but okay if you're only interested in one graph. But in general it really sucks for data captures and reviewing data after your road test. When I need to do that I usually just have the PIDs as text then record the screen with my GoPro and review the frames of the footage rather than trying to use the Autel... Have you done a Ford power balance test with your XTool? How does it fare to the videos you made of your Launch and your Autel? I work on a LOT of Fords and reach for that test a lot. But unfortunately my Autel is just like the video you made with yours. Horribly slow sample rate for that test. The video you made showing that test on your Launch had a pretty decent sample rate. Enough to catch one time misfires. Really wondering how the XTool compares to that.

@bernardaflores1720 Жыл бұрын

Great video and do agree w/ your comment regarding the O2 scales. Hopefully Xtools will fixed it a update just like they did the problems w/ locking and unlocking the rear caliper.

@737mechanic Жыл бұрын

I have no doubt they will.

@justinshields4216 Жыл бұрын

@737mechanic I think this tool would really shine with an oscilloscope that works in conjunction with the xtool specifically for their scan tool. 4 channel or more like the snap on verus pro

@bernardaflores1720 Жыл бұрын

@@justinshields4216 I am sure they can be added but the price point would change. The Dx9 might be a good entry point for this function.

@calholli Жыл бұрын

Excellent video!!.. I knew you could teach me some things. lol. That "Graph" button must have been an upgrade/ update. Because when I first got it (over a year ago now)-- I searched through it several times, and the "combine" button is all I could find (maybe I missed it). So that's a LOT better than I had first discovered back then, and I've never had to use graphs since then, other than 1 at a time. But showing 6 graphs at once is pretty nice; you can do a lot with that. I agree about the 0 to 1v scale on the 02 sensors. Even if they just got it down to 0 to 5v scale, it would be much better; especially on a full screen graph. So the next time I'm using it, I'll do a write up about that needing to be changed. If we all report it as an issue, they will probably get it fixed, they seem to be good at that once an issue is identified. Maybe it was just the fact that you first made a custom list-- and THEN that graph button will be there. See before, I was only selecting a few pids from the entire list -- and I think "combine" is the only button there. But once you make a smaller custom list, THEN the "graph" button shows up. Which makes sense now that I think about it. You can't "graph the entire live data pid list at once, so that's why the option wasn't there. So that's the key distinction: always make a little "custom" list of what you're looking at first, and the graph it. Vs simply checking the box of a few pids in the full list, and trying to go straight to a graph from there. edit: Oh I see: now it looks like they changed it and took the "combine" button away from the main list altogether- (1:40)_ - that way it forces you to make a "custom" list first -- and then your graphing options are both there. I'm super happy with buying this thing; but just by watching videos with the Thinktool Pro, you can see that it's just better in a few ways-- which I had see the price drop to $9xx at once point-- and it would have totally been worth the extra $200 to get it. Thanks for the video.. sorry for all the rambling, I was thinking out loud as I typed it. I learned a lot. cheers.

@ThunderbirdRocket Жыл бұрын

In your opinion is the Thinktool Pro better than the xtool d8 ?

@calholli Жыл бұрын

@@ThunderbirdRocket Yes.. but only with a few things. But it also costs quite a bit more. D8 just got updated with topology now, and it's excellent and copying keys and pulling codes for weird keys. It's hard to beat the D8 for the money though. I"ve seen it go down to as low as five-fifty sometimes. Thinktool pro is usually double that.

@randyowen7003 Жыл бұрын

I have contacted Xtool about the O2 sensor scale. They replied and said they would be optimizing the scale in the near future. It may help for others to voice their concerns over the issue. As you have noted, it's pretty useless in the 20v or 16v scale.

@737mechanic Жыл бұрын

Good to hear and you are right the more people that complain the quicker it will get fixed.

@737mechanic Жыл бұрын

@gearbox387 I didn't notice any decline in sampling rate whether I had 1 or 6 pulled up. I think with that few it is plenty fast enough to give a fast sampling rate.

@calholli Жыл бұрын

@gearbox387 I did notice on another video, a guy was using the old expensive snap-on and he was graphing several pids, running 4 channels on the built in scope, and also trying to screen record while bouncing back and forth between the live data and the scope: and it kept glitching and crashing the screen record. So there's no doubt that they can bottle neck when doing too many things at once. Maybe that's why they only limited it to 6 graphs.. I know on an older 97 F150, my D8 graphing and live data seemed to be much slower, but on a 2010 Dodge Nitro, it was fine. So it depends on what car you're jacked into also. AND, I think it can drag it down a little depending on what units you are using; I think it is natively programmed for metric units, so when you select imperial units, it has to process the conversion-- so that's just another layer of load that can contribute to slowing it down. So it all depends on the situation really.

@davidp7163 Жыл бұрын

Edit: I posted to soon, I guess its always had the auto adjust feature. I just got one (fully updated) and checked. It seems default is now 0-5v and cannot be altered manually. Min and Max still do the same and do not adjust the scale (I think it would be great if it did). What it does do tho is auto scales if the range goes over 5, it will adjust higher automatically and lower automatically depending on what is in the graph range. The points per second is also a bit slow compared to Autel. Would be great if XTool doubled the points per second data collection, or maybe gave an ability to adjust it.

@johndesaavedra1040 8 ай бұрын

Excellent video. The inability to scale the graph renders the one function I need most to be useless. $400 lesson, I guess.

@737mechanic 8 ай бұрын

They have since fixed that problem. I have another video showing how well it works now.

@johndesaavedra1040 8 ай бұрын

I downloaded the updates today and it's still dismal with almost no movement at all on the A/F line.@@737mechanic I saw your video and yes it is better but a 3 volt scale with a millivolt response isn't useful for wave comparison. I wish I could upload a screen shot.

@luckyguy1968 8 ай бұрын

2 years ago the 02 graph was my biggest complaint also. I thought they would have fixed by now

@737mechanic 8 ай бұрын

They have fixed it now.

@alilakis2527 Жыл бұрын

Thank you, great video You can send them the issue (or the video link) per Mail, they have a good customer service

@737mechanic Жыл бұрын

Thanks buddy.

@johnmitchell8925 11 ай бұрын

They definitely need to fix the colors of the different pids so you can more easily differentiate them when using this mode. They will have the same colors right next to each other and give one just a lighter shade so you really have to pay attention to the scale to see what pid your graphing

@imscammer15 Жыл бұрын

Great video. Is it possible to save data and export it as an excel file? That might be a work around to create a better graph on a computer. I would love your insight on a few other questions I had about the unit. -programming custom wheel sizes for Jeeps -programming pinion factors -injector coding when swapping in non OEM injectors

@737mechanic Жыл бұрын

The only wheel/tire sizes you can program are sizes that are offered by the manufacturer. Pinion factors can be programmed for some makes and models The only injector coding I have seen is for diesel engines. I have a video showing the option for custom tire sizes in the Launch x431 scanner. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rXeZiZWfZdJmm8k

@johnmitchell8925 11 ай бұрын

Maybe using the gauge function for the 02 sensors would give you a better reading than the graph at least the gauge would be bouncing back and forth

@Sophie333C Жыл бұрын

Hi, will you do an update if xtool do an update for the O2 scale….cheers!

@737mechanic Жыл бұрын

Yes I will, I talked to xtool and they have a beta version update that they are going to send me to try out.

@johnmitchell8925 11 ай бұрын

One more issue i found with the d7 is when i save a report on my 2018 Chevy Cruze it will show all the information on the car but it shows the milage in kilometers instead of MPH I went back to the settings and i had them all set for American so that's another glitch they need to work out And the readings on the 02 sensors is a major issue

@737mechanic 11 ай бұрын

Make sure you send a report to them so they know and they have been good at fixing stuff like that.

@tchogworks1987 4 ай бұрын

The D8s you can have 8 on graphs

@AverageTechDad Жыл бұрын

Can you turn off AFM on GMC with this scanning tool.

@737mechanic Жыл бұрын

No, you can troubleshoot it but it will not permanently disable it. You need to use a programmer for that.

@dodge73dart 8 ай бұрын

Has x tool corrected the graph yet in an update?

@737mechanic 8 ай бұрын

Yes, I think I did a video that talks about it.

@user-hr5dc4ly3q Ай бұрын

1 to 12 v and 0 to 20 v problem from 1 year did xtool company edit this ptoblem

@737mechanic Ай бұрын

Yes they did.

@user-hr5dc4ly3q Ай бұрын

@@737mechanic i want to purchase D8W is in this model also 0-20v for O2 sensor can use 0-1v

@737mechanic Ай бұрын

@@user-hr5dc4ly3q Here is a video showing how the graphing scales work. kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5PFq5mea82DjMU

@miguelsalazar3239 Жыл бұрын

I dont have the graph button for my A30m.

@737mechanic Жыл бұрын

That sucks.

@xtooltutorials Жыл бұрын

working on it and should add it with app update in the near future.

@miguelsalazar3239 Жыл бұрын

@XTOOL thank you xtool 💯

@miguelsalazar3239 Жыл бұрын

@@xtooltutorials hopefully soon 🙏

@miguelsalazar3239 11 ай бұрын

No multiple graphs update for A30M still as of today.😔

@TurnThemWheels Жыл бұрын

X Tool need to add topographic

@737mechanic Жыл бұрын

They have it on the D9 but yes it would be nice on the D8 as well.

@TurnThemWheels Жыл бұрын

@@737mechanic yes the D8 also need battery in the top right of the scanner like Autel and snap on. I mentioned it to them

@737mechanic Жыл бұрын

@@TurnThemWheels Don't forget the VCI has a voltage readout on it, of course, most of the time it isn't in a position so it can be read but you could always get an OBDII extension cable so it could be read.

@TurnThemWheels Жыл бұрын

@@737mechanic yeah it’s on the machine which is cool but most scan tools have it in the top right of the scanner. Also you can’t connect a cable to the BT version

@737mechanic Жыл бұрын

@@TurnThemWheels What I mean is take an extension cable and connect it to the VCI and the OBDII port and that way you can always see the voltage readout on the VCI because you will be able to lay it or position it where you want.