The Great Big Audio Lie

[@sebastianbaran9645]

This is further evidence in favor of tower speakers.

[@sharuraudio]

A tiny monitor crossed over to a big subwoofer for bass is more powerful than any tower speaker.

[@rosarrthecalf2805]

bro just wanted to flex his speaker setup again

[@CammyFi]

It's not a flex really, it's just very good choices

[@PlatinumEagleStudios]

Yeah. His very basic speaker set up that he probably paid like 100 bucks for..........Because he still lives with his parents and he still needs help from daddy since he can't get a job

[@rosarrthecalf2805]

@@CammyFi hes flexing good choices

[@CammyFi]

​@@rosarrthecalf2805His setup doesn't cost much, he's "flexing" his good faith if anything

[@l67swap1]

Thats whats insane in the audio hobby , people will spend 4k more for a miniscule difference, system synergy and room dampening is much more important than fancy cables and high dollar equipment

[@agony600]

Define system synergy

[@hugevibez]

@agony600 I mean, planars can sound awful on tube amplifiers. Though you are correct, that this is often overstated and mostly a scam told to get people to spend exorbitant amounts of money. You should mostly worry about room reflections and good speakers before worrying about things like amplifiers and especially dacs. Of course there is a minimum level you should reach in that these elements aren't introducing any noise, but that can be had for very low prices.

[@tuententertainment]

Bro just put the naan and the palak paneer in the bag already 😭💥

[@sharuraudio]

?

[@TheWorldTeacher]

You are urged to become VEGAN, since carnism (the destructive ideology that supports the use and consumption of animal products, especially for “food”) is arguably the foremost existential crisis.🌱

[@8BitParadise]

True

[@edudalmau3533]

a deep dive into room treatment would be nice

[@sammy10001]

Truuue

[@agony600]

W371A is *not* a subwoofer, it’s a woofer and is designed to provide greater output when combined with the ones and controlled dispersion down to around 63Hz. This, combined with carefully managed multiple subwoofers should essentially combat all major issues with the room i.e modes and SBIR.

[@sharuraudio]

k

[@daysofgrace2934]

I use Arcan Muso mini bookshelf and the Logo subwoofer x-over 90Hz. They have been designed to work together. Redecorated my house so working on fixing the room acoustics to stop reflections. Hard wood/laminate floors do not help

[@thisrocks]

Just earlier today I finally got my 2 subs (SVS SB-2000) to complete my setup (got KH 120 ii and miniDSP flex a couple of months ago) and really want a tutorial on how to time and volume align + EQ everything. If there's anything you can offer to help I would greatly appreciate it.

[@joel-dorne]

Wait until you learn about room acoustics and treating rooms.

[@sharuraudio]

i already know all this lol

[@bentobox3140]

Your mic is so crisp. What is it, if you don't mind sharing?

[@sharuraudio]

sennheiser mkh8020

[@bentobox3140]

​@@sharuraudiothank you 🙏

[@hugevibez]

I mean you set the crossover usually at 70-80hz to make the sub disappear, at higher frequencies directionality comes in to play. You're not entirely wrong on driver size, the SPL you get from smaller drivers is just not enough to properly serve the sub bass regio. A lot of sub-bass immersion comes from physically feeling vibrations, rather than hearing them (especially sub 20 which we can't hear at all). This is where headphones fail because you don't feel the vibrations through your body, even if the frequency response is there. Wearable subwoofers exist to achieve this without upsetting the entire neighborhood. Though time-aligning such a huge driver through it's entire frequency response to a much smaller driver is no easy feat. You can do a lot with DSP, but the better solution would be to have 2 smaller subwoofers for bass-extension for your bookshelves, and a single larger driver with enough SPL to fill your room for the lower sub-bass region, since directionality doesn't matter at this frequency. You can add more subs for bass management to improve things further, since with sub bass the difference in oscilations at different frequencies can be quite large. You could also go for towers without bass extension subwoofers, but with towers you again have more directional awareness and thus not as good of a performance with imaging and again more drivers that can be misaligned, with potentially no way to fix it if it only has a single input and no crossover bypass. You are near-field, so these issues come less in to play. It's important to understand no universal solutions exist when it comes to types of speakers, placement, bass management, etc. It all depends on your room. With that in mind, Neumann headphones are aimed at the studio and not the home, so they are purely analytical tools. Bass immersion is not what is the goal here, rather to make sure there aren't any nasty sounds hidden in those lower regions for when the song is played back at a soundsystem that does support these frequencies.

[@sharuraudio]

70 Hz crossover is trash. Just have the subwoofers positioned for stereo

[@niccster1061]

I agree with a good chunk of what u r saying but just a reminder 1. You arent the only person who knows what they are talking about 2. You havent heard what you havent heard. Still respect the effort

[@sammy10001]

I think he needs to attend axpona in 2025, and do a good walk around to see other speakers there

[@garfieldblessesyouwithadri3944]

what are good floorstanding speakers

[@Hitsujiomeguruboken]

According to spinorama dot org: Ascend Acoustics ELX Ribbon Tower / Neuman KH 420 as two examples of good floorstanders…

[@garfieldblessesyouwithadri3944]

@@Hitsujiomeguruboken isnt the kh 420 a monitor?

[@sharuraudio]

floorstanding speakers are pointless

[@tanjimahmed5694]

Its about the Aura fr

[@tuathadedanann195]

what subs are you using?

[@sharuraudio]

Monoprice SW-15

[@tuathadedanann195]

@@sharuraudio great value

[@cetinakpan6389]

There could've been a sound demos in this video

[@CammyFi]

Should I buy Genelec 8341A

[@sharuraudio]

no

[@CammyFi]

​@sharuraudio Why

[@griffinuts]

@@CammyFi overrated, more constant directivity designs like the genelec one's sound too bright, just buy neummans like chads do

[@sharuraudio]

@@CammyFi not important. kh120ii crossover is already phase linear and the on-axis response is flat

[@CammyFi]

​@@sharuraudioShould I keep 8030c and buy a MiniDSP and 20 subwoofers?

[@RJ-xj3ct]

I also think the cost of these "audiophile subs" like the Genelec and whatnot are complete waste of $$$ Brands like Perlisten, new SVS 17 series, PSA, HSU make phenomenal subs for the money and they measure extremely well too.

[@TantrumAudio]

It's all about the trade off between two things. SPL and extension.

[@cheggry45]

my neighbors dont appreciate subwoofers ;(

[@_innerscape_]

Some time ago you said that stereo sub is not a thing when I pointed that out. I'm glad you changed idea. ❤

[@sharuraudio]

i mean, the subs playing in stereo vs mono still barely matters, but it matters more for higher crossover

[@valentin3186]

Bring back the hater type shi content "don't buy X, it's trash" jk, 2025 is all professionalism, creativity and audio industry elevation. Bigger things are coming, peqdb will be generational. It's inevitable

[@tanjimahmed5694]

Yeah

[@sharuraudio]

exactly

[@sammy10001]

Sharur, wait till you try omnidirectionals or dipole. Bigger soundstage than a box speaker where all it has going for it is frequency response

[@sharuraudio]

nah, box speakers are good, but the next step is just adding more than 2 speakers

[@deadcow59]

discord link is invalid

[@sharuraudio]

it's not

[@deadcow59]

@@sharuraudio my fault it was on my pc for some reason

[@bren4973]

What headphones do you like besides lcd 5

[@sharuraudio]

HiFiMAN Arya Unveiled

[@isomilo]

try dan clark e3

[@rb89509]

You should cross your subs as low as possible. I cross mine at 55Hz. Bass should be felt no heard.

[@sharuraudio]

there isn't much to feel with a 55 Hz crossover

[@sharuraudio]

@@Tensentities this is completely pointless when you can high pass the monitors with DSP

[@agony600]

Bass should be felt and heard. What makes you think you shouldn’t hear bass?

[@griffinuts]

KH420 + KH870 is high aura KH80 + giga subs looks like Shaquille O'Neal and his gf no one will take u seriously in studios

[@sharuraudio]

PEQdB has the final say in studio equipment

[@albertcamus6611]

wtf

[@phillipmorris9847]

truth