The Great Debate: Israel v Palestine | Candace Ep 10

I host comedians Ami Kozak and Dave Smith to discuss the Israel/Palestine debate.
Check out Ami Kozak at www.amikozak.com
Check out Dave Smith at comicdavesmith.com
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[@Aliens-Are-Our-Friends2027]

“If they’re Black, then it’s a gang. If they’re Italian, it’s a mob. But if they’re Jewish, it’s a coincidence and you should never speak about it.” -Dave Chappelle

[@mediii8057]

Amen

[@soapzuds4542]

Love this truth!

[@Nadia_Knows]

And if they're Arab, they're a terrorist group.

[@MasterofLightning]

Are NBA players and rappers a gang? What are we even talking about?

[@Liyaxs]

@@MasterofLightningwho referenced NBA players? do you hear yourself right now? if you don’t know maybe do your own research and look into the comedy sketch and what he is referring to.

[@techhawk1543]

Most Zionists don't believe that God exists, but they do believe that he promised them Palestine *- Ilan Pappe*

[@deeznutz3958]

Which makes them phony AF. And of low morals.

[@Lisboooa]

Gold

[@Tatiana-cp1fc]

What a dumb quote. History, apart from the Bible, shows Jews were indigenous to Israel.

[@lylarose2696]

It’s biblical

[@cold6488]

why does it matter its not america let people believe what they want. WHO CARES

[@septillionesca]

Free Palestine from Israel, Free America from Israel.

[@juneysmith4415]

The Zionist guy uses the “well other people do facism.. so why are we criticized when we do facism?” 😂😅

[@PedroHenrique-x17]

It's not hypocrisy, their belief is that they have the right to rule over all the nations given to them by God, but that's not true because they rejected God's Son and were sent into exile and had their covenant revoked. Even if they were actual Semites, which they are not, they'd have no right to the land or to rule over us

[@Stefilou1325]

I could be wrong but isn’t Israel given more money from the US than any other country? This is tax payer money. I feel that gives us room to criticize both governments .

[@dayzdnconfuz3d]

100%. The anti semite smear is a tactic to silence us .

[@peterbeater012]

How antisemitic of you!

[@ENTI-3]

Yes, Ukraine second

[@halfwaytreez7408]

You mean the same money they paid off the politicians with 😂😂

[@user-je9oi6dh1w]

Criticism should be allowed regardless. People who don’t like criticism will just call you names. L move. We pay tax so we got a priority to know how our tax is being used.

[@suadahedzic]

Palestinians did not choose their oppressor. It happens to be Jewish. Does he think Palestinians would behave differently if their oppressors were Hindus

[@jennystreetinterviews]

Yes it’s a religious war. No one cares to fight the hindus

[@ajb7786]

Palestinians voted for Hamas - they're oppressors, and if your weak retort to that is, "yeah, but Hamas was really set up by Israel," then shame on the Palestinian people for not having enough wherewithal to look into whom they were voting for before they voted for them.

[@alyzak.8997]

or any other religion.

[@adamthaeer217]

or even Muslim or Arab you can see Kurd in Turkey and what they doing to get independent ( both Muslim Sunni) or the Kuwaiti under Iraqi occupation in 1991 (Both Arab )

[@Tigerhead83]

Where was the outcry of oppression when the Egyptians controlled the Gaza strip before 1967? When were the terrorist attacks and the missile launches towards Egypt prior to 1967 by the Palestinians ? Please remind us! Or Did the cry for freedom only start when the Jews re- gained ownership of their historical land?

[@user-pl1hz8pu1p]

Why is DNA testing illegal in israel????

[@fakiu1456]

Because their afraid, that the truth is coming out. They all know the European Jews has no right on that land

[@rustyshack2349]

Because they're overwhelmingly Eastern european

[@labradoriteatheart]

It's not illegal! STOP LYING!

[@user-pl1hz8pu1p]

@@labradoriteatheart do your research. It's not allowedbin isn'treal!

[@SkyFall7788]

​@@labradoriteatheart you need a court order to be allowed to take a dna test

[@juneysmith4415]

lol.. the “double standard” for Zionists is actually: no matter how wrong something is, if a Zionist is doing it, it’s right. 😅 I

[@TheChemicAly]

She got 2 jews to debate each other so no one can make the AS allegation. Genius😂😂😂😂

[@spiritof6663]

They will make that allegation anyways. *So many* Jews protesting for Palestine have been labeled AS's by their fellow brethren, it's getting absurd.

[@bigoso404]

And the usual suspects will somehow still manage to call Dave smith AS

[@stopthecancelculture]

​@bigoso404 who are the usual suspects?

[@bigoso404]

@@stopthecancelculture mainstream media

[@sarafwolf]

And you'll notice that nothing they said was anti-Semitic. Nobody called for - or justified calling for - the annihilation of Israel. None of this was anti-Zionist. They debated the ethics of war, social responsibility, and policy. If you are getting called anti-Semitic take notes.

[@Welsh2505]

Defending Israel at this point is desperation of the highest level.

[@aguynamedjake462]

Considering America is a majority Christian nation, it makes me sick that they support a country like Israel so much that sends military weapons to Azerbaijan to attack a Christian nation in Armenia. Israel has their hands in a lot of wars right now (like America) 😭

[@sa35915]

Can’t be done successfully regardless of how many buzz words they toss in.

[@hyderally8045]

I'm impressed how brainwashed Americans have been by their media. Palestinians have been going through this since 1940s and getting blamed for being the victims.

[@robbiedaw3415]

Its sick to defend isreal

[@Lovelygirl908]

Defending religious radical terrorists is desperation. Go move to Gaza if you hate Israel, as a feminist I’d rather live in Israel

[@murckin]

Im Palestinian, and i will speak for myself. I do not at all hate jews or have a foundation of jewish hate in my frustration towards what's happening. It is simply the heartless treatment murder and subjugation of my people, that is it. It doesn't matter who the offenders are. it could be any religion, any race, or any people. If they committed mass slaughter and theft since 1948, i would have a foundation of frustration equally even if they were arab or anything. It's the action that is hard to forgive. I've witnessed brutual treatment firsthand. It has nothing to do with jews or the jewish religion

[@elizas3249]

This 💯. I'm so tired of the narrative that Palestinian children are raised from childhood to hate Jews. It is completely untrue, though the inverse is true. Check out Israeli elementary curriculum, maps, textbooks, etc. not to mention the compulsory military service. It's chilling.

[@rustyshack2349]

They do it to everyone. It's just most violent in the middle east

[@Koin00]

Exactly as a Muslim pro Palestine People try to make it about religion and say that being anti zionist is anti semitic which is just not true. If you are a good human you will be supporting Palestine.

[@sonur5080]

Why is it that Muslims kick out Non Muslims from their Islamic country but want equal rights in other countries?

[@ashley-fk6dp]

ya hmar ya ahabal if your people or better said the leadership of your people had accepted a deal when one was still on the table everything would be fine and you wouldnt need to hate jews ...I dunno where you grew up North American arabs are chill and usually have academic parents so they are more relaxed ..non the less the arab muslim world in its entirety hates Israel and even non israeli jews you lot are jew hater collectively speaking there is a reason there are no more jews in arabic speaking muslim countrys if your hatred was just against Israel and not jews why did you ethnically cleanse your jew after the nakba ? lesh habibi where are all the good yahudis you say you dont hate unlike the saying that you do ?

[@Pau11Wa11]

Dave clearly had the facts on his side in this one. It’s not even close. Thanks for having him on Candace!

[@LordFirestaff]

No, Ami just dropped the ball.

[@Koin00]

​@@LordFirestaff😂

[@RubizeeDontMiss]

​@@LordFirestaff Ami got COOKED. And he looked uncomfortable the whole time. Licking of lips, crossing arms, pierching lips etc. Israel is DONE!!!

[@LordFirestaff]

@@RubizeeDontMiss Because Ami didn't handle the debate well means Israel is "Done"? Did Israel give up its nukes after this little debate?

[@moeezawan2329]

​​@@LordFirestaffIsrael has lost the moral high ground it manufactured through AIPAC lobby and buying politicians..

[@JohnFelinn]

"If American and Israeli interests were the same, there would be no need for a lobby" ----John Mearsheimer.

[@gomini3707]

🎯

[@sixmillionaccountssilenced6721]

Just pure logic.

[@user-zq5zy7oz5p]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qXbbgn5ni55sn6M

[@bashinnc]

Is that like saying if America and American veterans were the same there would be no need for a lobby? Think about it.

[@hossbonaventure_ceo6693]

True

[@user-cu2zn9dr5i]

Just saw a toddler be8ng looked after his 6 year old brother after their parents were killed by Israeli strikes in Gaza. And there are 25000 of such orphaned starving children in Gaza right now as grown-up men are crying antisemitism in the US.

[@user-jy8vm1xz8x]

Well said

[@blondealterego]

I’m waiting for it to be anti Palestinian to be pro Israel

[@funnytilltheresblood]

Sounds like a palliwood production

[@jadapinkett1656]

You've been effectively propagandized.

[@DePeaceHunter]

​@@funnytilltheresblood U're projecting your propagandist self to others. Only one side control majority of mainstrem medias here we all know it

[@haanhun1333]

Terrorism is the war of the poor, and war is the terrorism of the rich. - Peter Ustinov

[@tomalesbay]

He referred to Israel as the "underdog". That is a myth. One thing I learned from Mearsheimer and Walt (The Israel Lobby) is that in 1948, when the 5 Arab states attacked Israel, they did so with a total fighting force of 30,000. Israel met that force immediately with 35,000, but within a few months managed to enlist more personnel and wound up with something like 90,000. Since then, Israel has obtained nuclear weapons. Finally, Israel has almost always (if not always) enjoyed robust support from the US. Israel is not the underdog and never has been since its founding.

[@yahyamohammed637]

Correct. The Israelis and the Zionist militias before them were always better educated and trained. They received financial and military support during their early days of development. They were largely Europeans, after all.

[@TheeAbbey]

Israel itself is a British creation and is fully backed by USA, the most powerful country on planet.

[@Squirrelbuster559]

Most ppl don’t understand that Israel is our military baby. Once you go down that rabbit hole you understand why Israel was made a “state”

[@nix2455]

Imagine if we spent our money on our people instead of Israel

[@allenh.7373]

Our money stopped being ours since the Federal Reserve was established by Jews in 1913. They've checkmated the whole world! We don't even have money, its just debt and a 'Federal Reserve Note.' Its not a US Dollar!

[@TJ-Judge]

I know right!!!

[@briannapeatrowsky7141]

Bro imagine if we didn't have to pay taxes and could just donate to causes we care about

[@handyman1016]

@@briannapeatrowsky7141 ^ this guy gets it.

[@gdc6614]

❤

[@aghoghobernard]

Dave Smith also missed out that 2023 was the deadliest year for Palestinians in the West Bank. Where is Hamas in the West Bank?

[@broximus4550]

for Palestinian Children*

[@AsifKhan-hf9zy]

Ami - "west bank? what is that? never heard of it?........... oh, do you mean West Judea?......... oh sorry, my bad"

[@skontheroad]

Nablus, Jenin, Bethlehem, Ramallah, Hebron, just for starters.....

[@mahamadoudiallo589]

​​@@AsifKhan-hf9zy Don't worry, it will NEVER be yours. Call it how you want, that won't change the outcome. You can even fight Gaza without our money and you think you can fight Houtis, Hezbollah, and Iran at the same time? Wait till the new generation comes to power, stop believing your BS and take the sanctions off Iran. We are getting tired of being dragged to Israel's BS.

[@user-pl1hz8pu1p]

Please everyone watch the documentary called "Tantura". The israeli's killed thousands of Palestinans in order to take the land. Palestinians were raped, put in ovens, shot, tortured indiscriminately. That is how israel took the land. They were brutal and heartless.

[@zS39SBT4fe5Zp8Q]

We need to save America from the clutches of Israel.

[@psychotropy101]

People like Ami disgust me to no end.

[@JohnFelinn]

"If American and Israeli interests were the same, there would be no need for AIPAC" ------ John Mearsheimer.

[@Anisky123]

So. If Jews raised their children in the death cult there would be no need for AiPac. Ok.

[@Loveforpeace887]

Very good point, John. AIPAC has landed itself in our politics and believe it is the source of the problem in America.

[@MTx485]

Now say the same about the NRA

[@masterofshadows8904]

​@@MTx485 the NRA are pussies who "compromise" too much. FPC and GOA are 1000x better

[@Marlenesari1961]

Americans who pay taxes have every right to criticise Israel as much as they like and more. They do pay for it after all.

[@jso416]

All taxation is theft. And whether or not we send them taxes has nothing to do with being able to criticize them.

[@alyzak.8997]

@@jso416 all?

[@jso416]

@@alyzak.8997 Taxation is forced upon us behind the barrel of a gun is it not? By any other metric, that is called theft.

[@holidaytrout5174]

Israelis have more freedom to criticize Israel lol

[@JW_______]

And the other Americans who also pay taxes can yell you that wrong

[@Ladimore]

So, the debate is about 100 minutes of Ami Kozak getting owned by Dave Smith 😂

[@echinascetan4430]

ami is hot af though

[@BigBoss7777777]

@@echinascetan4430child

[@brownGoy]

​@@echinascetan4430get out more lol

[@omrimasterman854]

It’s the other way around

[@BigBoss7777777]

@@omrimasterman854 you’re delusional

[@marcobahena8132]

Dave is awesome. There is a lot of good Israeli's people. But people like Ami and Netanyahu and people that think like them. They are really equal to the Nazis .

[@jonathangiahn7723]

Something tells me you don't know who the Nazi's were.

[@its_me-nikki]

I just don’t understand the double standard. If a Palestinian does something to an Israeli, it’s terrorism. If an Israeli does something to a Palestinian, “that’s just war.. war is hell”

[@jakobmillermrblue2tarot923]

Arabs refuse peace, all of the historical monuments were Jewish,,,, Israel was the Jewish homeland, PERIOD!

[@meganhornberger9386]

This! This right here! Nailed it.

[@Daisy99999]

great point

[@somebody700]

Because the fundamental difference between "terrorism" and "war is hell" is not the actual act nor intent, it's the one doing it. The Romans called every enemy they had a barbarian despite the Romans engaging in worse acts on a much larger scale, but hey they were "civilization". Those are meaningless labels that only exist to allow rationalizing horrible actions while denouncing things that are a fraction of it

[@SNSoldierS]

​@@somebody700Yup exactly

[@mohammeda9805]

Free us from The United States of Israel 🇮🇱

[@jso416]

Free who? 😄

[@ronaldshiffman9171]

G-d bless Israel.

[@ManplansGodlaughs]

Free the world from radical Islamists

[@p0ln]

wow, crazy typical jew on the left, that behaves like zkhalenski, vs intelligent normal person jew on right, why can't they all be like the right guy? imagine saying there are connotations regarding 911 and Israel, like who don't believe that? pfft smh

[@p0ln]

@@ronaldshiffman9171 it's spelt God, same dude that is acclaimed with Christ is King! imagine not knowing that?

[@marlenbeltran6341]

Body language says it all, this pro Israel guy, is pressed and it shows. He is being prideful he is not thinking rationally, you do not have to be an expert to see. His body language is a hot mess and showing his true feelings. He is crossing his arms, he is holding his breath, fixing his headset, making facial expressions, moving in his seat. He takes sips of his water that is empty, he is bothered and it shows! He literally does not care for what this other guys is saying all that is going through his mind is nope we are doing nothing wrong.

[@MHiggins]

This is why the folks supporting the Israeli government in this war is so isolated and losing the debate. They know they are in a bad spot.

[@CyyteClients]

Owens has just proves how possible it is to DISCUSS these issues without cancelling an individual or calling them names.. not to mention ruining their lives. Great call Candice, much love ❤

[@jackjones1249]

When Ami started to speak about thousands of convicted palestinian hostages and then stopped himself as he knew most have never been convicted of anything shows the level of deceit these people speak on a daily basis.

[@campomambo]

When he said that we shouldn't be asking how many Palestinians should be killed, but that Hamas needs to release the hostages is absolutely insane as well. In what world do you say the problem is that criminals don't do the right thing? How much injustice and murder justifies one to commit against innocent bystanders until there are no more crimes committed?

[@jamesrobinson2138]

He knows that argument works on people who are uninformed but he remembered he can’t use that on Dave, one of the most informed independent sources of information.

[@uncle_Samssubjects]

I read this comment right before that came up.

[@welcometototalitarianism812]

"these people."

[@stevenlevy6119]

@@jamesrobinson2138Dave only knows talking points. Hardly an expert. Sadly.

[@msayed25]

This zio guys is such a liar.

[@Dan0TheMano]

They’ve just been propagandized from birth. We should probably have some compassion for that because so have we

[@allenh.7373]

When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

[@NidoZizi]

@@allenh.7373 ✔

[@Balonishell]

they always are

[@300_spartansoldier5]

Terrorist sympathizer

[@thomaswattsjr.7]

This Ami guy is either entirely disingenuous or all he knows about the history of Israel is the Hasbara approved version.

[@nadia0466]

He's way too brainwashed to see clearly.

[@islamforhumanity1103]

Ami Kozak is evil and is intentionally being a monster . He knows he is evil.

[@barflytom3273]

and he said he is a big fan of Douglas Murray. that says it all.

[@qd2124]

FREEEEEEE USAA FROM AIPACC

[@solvingpolitics3172]

Free from Islam.

[@ayaalkhatib9278]

@solvingpolitics3172 please free us from your stupidity

[@yorksfolly1255]

@@solvingpolitics3172imagine thinking a 1 percent max Muslim population in USA is more of a threat than a literal corrupt lobby in the pockets of our politicians that we vote for meaning our votes don’t mean anything lmfao

[@warfaali]

Clearly you are bot that works for the Israeli social media department ​@@solvingpolitics3172

[@neelyspivey7259]

​@yorksfolly1255 Oh, brother, you just described what's going on right now I can't even walk to the convenience Store 3 blocks over because of the gangs activity and I live in Anchorage. Alaska.

[@Bloomies3]

"If I don't steal it, someone else will" Said Yaqoub, an zionist israeli settler with a brooklyn accent while kicking out a Palestinian woman out of her home in the West Bank.

[@keksi6844]

"You shall not steal"-God in Bible. "If I dont steal,someone else will"-Israelis.

[@user-zw3hi6sh4m]

It's called Judea and Samaria, not West bank

[@leonaj.5835]

@@user-zw3hi6sh4m Samaritans were always disliked even in Jesus' time to the point He made a parable exposing people's ideologies & beliefs and how they treat others.

[@English4ABC2]

​

[@Bloomies3]

@@user-zw3hi6sh4m Does that make it ok to steal though?

[@mohammedxiii]

Where are the Palestinians in a discussion about Palestine? Why are europeans talking about someone elses land?

[@BennyHarassi]

because people only want to listen to them..

[@user-ce1qr8gb8x]

There are no Europeans on the screen. Jews are genetically semites. This can be learned easily. There is no reason to insult Europeans like that.

[@Jahbrewlite]

It's a genius plot to reveal the mindset of Zionist jews vs non zionist jews. Ami is a zionist government supporter. Dave is not

[@SamaH2802]

Because using two Jews to talk about the issue takes “antisemitism” out of the question. People just pass off Palestinian guests as “bias” or “antisemite”

[@recobadota9571]

I think its good for cause when anti zionist jews talk on behalf of palestine because it eliminates a lot of the zionist propaganda

[@PeteMD]

Anti-Semitism is such a ludicrous idea used to shut down actual critique

[@MYTAccount]

“The Nazis made me afraid to be a Jew and the Israelis made me ashamed to be a Jew.” Dr Israel Shahak (a holocaust survivor)

[@drewrampersaud3346]

God bless

[@alyzak.8997]

I'm proud of consistent good Jews like Dr Israel. They have no need to be ashamed. May Allah bless them.

[@avisting]

Hamas won't give him a free pass for saying that. Just want to remind you , Hamas kidnapped and killed Holocaust survivors, peace activists, animals and workers from Thailand

[@anovino1992]

​@@julibrown6984 They're the true Jewish people.

[@astorrian6247]

It's true that Jews are the chosen people but not by God, but by Zionism! This beautiful race, history, character and their suffering has been hijacked by this cult...brainwashed and used to abuse the World. But they too are waking up. Pray for peace and justice for all.

[@Cowboysdontcomplain]

As a man i will never play victim, sickening to hear men claim raicism, sexism, anti semitic. Let people say whatever they want and dont care its called being an adult

[@lisaseifert9118]

You read my mind

[@fortunatomartino8549]

All 20th century ideological nomenclature Designed against honest people And " white" people in general

[@ernienieves3229]

Preach!

[@gm8507]

That's an anti-semitic statement, the Jews are very special people you cannot speak of them in harsh words

[@Cowboysdontcomplain]

@gm8507 🤣 deep down were all garbage, there is one man who wasn't and his name is Jesus ✝️🇺🇲🙏 #ChristIsKing

[@agammoh]

He says “Can you agree there wasn’t a Palestinian state or sovereign nation before the creation of Israel”. Let that sink in. “BEFORE the creation of Israel”. Literally contradicts himself

[@sofia-tw6cc]

Israel have to get out from Palestine

[@DawidKwiatkowski-oo9fn]

An example of one of 1000 Palestinians traded for hostages : a 10yr old boy convicted for a violent act against Israel of throwing rocks towards a tank that just ran over his neighbourhood

[@RevelationThree20]

I didn’t see that, what was his name?

[@MannyWdz]

​@@RevelationThree20 he's just a number now 😥, the irony 😢

[@DawidKwiatkowski-oo9fn]

@@RevelationThree20 type on google Palestinian rock throwing, and look at different hits

[@somebody700]

He wasn't convicted, he was thrown in prison indefinitely without trial. It's even worse than people think it is.

[@sandralaganas181]

USA were calling young minors terrorist for kicking military trucks as their homes being bombed and families killed in the MiddleEast

[@footballmjjj]

Please, people, educate yourselves on how many children have been thrown into prisons without any trial and brutally tortured 😢. Isreal need to be held accountable for ONCE

[@icarium6031]

Also look into how Israel tortures them.

[@thaitraveller9756]

that wont happen

[@summer5145]

This is why they keep saying children are brainwashed in schools to hate them. It's so they can justify the violence & improisonment of them to their citizens

[@alitharealist4730]

@@icarium6031 Also Counts of Se___ual As___ult..

[@user-hv7rq5zn3x]

Well, it's pretty clear that Ami did a good job, he always brings content and facts and he definitely conducted this conversation correctly. Dave, maybe you should stay in comedy, even though it's pretty weak for you too. And Candice for once throughout the last period I agree with you, you know nothing and that's why you brought them to learn... it's just a shame that until now you insisted on lying to everyone that you know what you're talking about. Anyway, Ami, keep up your work, you're amazing.

[@alab3657]

Anybody else think that this Avi guy doesn't break a sweat about 20,000 dead kids? Seems like he's actually happy about it.

[@aers8127]

where did you get 20,00 from

[@sumerianking4942]

⁠multiple global ngos . israel is committing genocide

[@bvdOfTheNorth]

It cannot be overstated...Dave Smith is sooo right, and sooo good at proving it. I can't get enough.

[@beldirefugemorocco9236]

They’re having 6 year old Palestinian prisoners and he’s trying to tell me that they’re there because they’re a threat?…

[@Izzygilden]

Can you name which 6 year old Palestinian prisoner you’re referring to?

[@yougood809]

@@Izzygilden Do you have google my friend?

[@Izzygilden]

@@yougood809 yup

[@matthummel8306]

​@@Izzygildenhind rajab

[@matthummel8306]

Look up Stone Cold Justice Documentary. It's created by Australian journalists

[@zakarianouhi5826]

Ilan Pappe once said: Most Zionists don't believe that God exists, but they do believe that he promised them Palestine

[@theisraelig5162]

77% of Israelis believe in god, the truth is very inconvinient to you isn't it?

[@zakarianouhi5826]

@@theisraelig5162 can you tell me what god allow his followers to kill 38000 people in 6 months?

[@blacklotusxxxxxx]

100% not true. Look at real jews in Israel. They don't fight in wars. Real people who believe in god do not murder Palestinians just because they're muslim. Think about it. Jews and muslims are very close in faith. So I think you got it backwards. 77%of zionists do not believe in god. They fight in war. Thst a clear opposition to believing in God. Like I said. The real jews of Israel are beaten and bullied everyday because of their faith. I suggest you do you research into this state.

[@temptaytion]

@zakarianouhi5826, and that's the irony of all this. Especially given the argument that they are the only democracy in the Middle East. You'd think this would automatically separate church and state, which is a basic requirement for proper protection of freedom and equality under a democracy, yet they are exempt from this logic because "God said so." In turn, the words "sharia law" become a talking point when criticizing the rest of the countries in the Middle East, as proof they are not for freedom. Lol

[@clarkkent2220]

he's obviously spreading propaganda. 1/5 of Israel don't believe in God not majority

[@NattyMatty369]

The guy on the right is smarter

[@outlandish8]

Dave Smith is so knowledgeable and such a great debater. Really impressed with him.

[@qadirbaqi3742]

Candace deserves flowers for the civil conduct of this debate. She chose two eloquent speakers and gave them space to speak their arguments. A far contrast from a Piers Morgan debate. Great job Candace!

[@leekasumba]

She definitely does. If Piers was hosting this debate it would have been a screaming match. He would have inserted himself in it in the most uncomfortable ways.

[@Esperanza-fp2cy]

But @piersmorgan is a real reporter 🤣🤣

[@sarahhuckabeerules4128]

JUUZ RUN THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT.

[@mima_piedade]

@@Esperanza-fp2cy he has a degree, ok.

[@Esperanza-fp2cy]

@@mima_piedade exactly...and candace is doing a MUCH better job! 😁

[@IHoneyBadgerl]

He can’t even explain what the 5000 Palestinian Prisonors crime was. He just says “its different” 😂

[@luvitluvitbaby]

Right…smh

[@Sleepy11323]

I’d love to hear from Palestinians on the matter.

[@Brandon-ne3xz]

Ami has some specific talking points. He does follow some groups for these talking points. And they just do not validate whether those are facts or false. One of them is expulsion of Jews from the Arab countries. But most dangerous thing is adopting the idea that Palestinians have to be expelled from their land to make Israel secure.

[@sturdevantphotography5726]

The reality is that Israel holds thousands in "administrative detention" without being charged, and they have no due process. In the occupied territories, Palestinians face a military court independent from Israeli society that has a 90% conviction rate. The zionist's claim that Israel doesn't take hostages is frankly bullshit

[@elizabethdemeree366]

It’s sad. I know we laugh, though its really sad

[@caravanrose]

Ami has no foot to stand on as the whole thing was an inside job

[@user-ei4nz6nk9e]

I'm Muslim from south Africa and I'm enjoying this well balanced discussion.

[@AllaahuAkbar60]

DNA testing is not allowed in Israel mainly because their ancestors are from Europe 😊😊

[@anya8861]

Israeli Jews come from diverse backgrounds, with many having mixed ancestry. The country's Jewish population is estimated to be around 7 million, with the majority being descendants of European Ashkenazi and Middle Eastern/North African Jews

[@AllaahuAkbar60]

@@anya8861 If you support Israel then keep them in your country why putting them in Middle East where they are not welcome..

[@AllaahuAkbar60]

@@anya8861 From river to the sea Palestine 🇵🇸 will be free 🇵🇸😉

[@Dee-XoXo]

So, Allah is Akbar (bigger) of what exactly? Did you know 'Akbar' was a pagan statue worshiped by your people back in the day. No one questions the history behind the nonsense of this barbaric motto, has to be said before killing non Muslims. God the GREAT and that's not the accurate translation for your name and profile picture. Christ is King ✝️

[@andrzejb8322]

Not from Europe. They are khazars from asian plains.

[@SK-sm5ge]

The most hilarious statement, "terrorism started Occupation and Occupation did not start terrorism " 🤣🤣🤣

[@johndub3866]

Completely ignores the fact that the Zionists were committing terrorism before Israel was even founded.

[@jamesrobinson2138]

He’s delusional

[@akusaila4014]

I mean he is right if he meant that Zionist terrorism started the occupation of Palestine. Thats historical 😂

[@OumyNdiaye88]

Pure mental illness. It would take more than a day to dissect all the nonsense that came out of his mouth..

[@davebaldwin9457]

Sounds exactly like something little Ben would say.

[@waainnablue3370]

Great debate. I don’t recall in history an “ occupier that wants to be loved”.

[@YogiOnline]

Dave Smith - cool, calm and won the debate hands down

[@QuynhNguyen-hw9ps]

Thank you to Glenn Greenwald, Candance Owens, Tucker Carlson and Dave Smith for opening my mind to the Israeli government position. Grateful 🙏🏼

[@davidhunt3606]

Go check out Kurimeo "Don't Mention the Chazars" 26 part series and expect to have your mind blown.

[@MakeAsylumsGre4tAgain]

I sooo pray you can see you’re all right: both are ev!l. They are both wings of the same bird with a bunch of innocent or brainwashed ppl stuck in between. Same as every single political system worldwide! Distractions while they swap the economical system over. Wake up!!!

[@DRIPPGOD614]

It’s not just the israel’s government but the people as a whole

[@whatmeworry7184]

@@DRIPPGOD614 Oof, try and find the interview that Abby Martin did while she was in Israel. She interviewed random people on the street and it's eye opening. Let's just say the Jews really hate Arabs.

[@JenniferAnnMcCaffrey]

@@DRIPPGOD614reporting for anti semitism

[@ngongoliverchiambah7713]

Dave is so based.. you can't defeat him in an argument. Man is just so intelligent. Israel Should stop the killing now.

[@juneysmith4415]

And the gaslighting. Ami Kozak is trying to gaslight straight from the Hasbara handbook. It’s psychopathic and it’s not going to work anymore! The people have spoken. The world is done with Zionist gaslighting- it’s excruciatingly obvious. Just miss everyone with that Ami Kozak, you’ve lost this debate. Israel has lost the moral high ground SO long ago. “From the river to the Sea” actually came from Zionists. Zionists are psychopaths.

[@noahziegler3478]

The closer you are to God, the less the rules there are, just like the closer you are to the truth, the less justification/explanation you need. Dave put on a master class, but at the same time, it's very easy when you're right. The other squirming Gentleman on too much Adderall chugging water every 5 seconds doing mental gymnastics to get to a point was definitely in over his head.

[@user-ld6iv6ko3q]

You're right, dave is smart. But it's not even about intelligence. It's about getting down to the truth. It's all dave cares about. Since he has no ulterior motive, he'll never lose a debate against someone who is spitting propaganda.

[@jena4717]

False.

[@ngongoliverchiambah7713]

@@jena4717 True

[@pavitra.35]

The Ami guy literally spewed Hasbara talking points for an hour straight.

[@mondardaman2973]

Everytime they are askkd a question about the History of How Israel took Palestimne They Keep going back to Oct 11 and antisemitism and disregard the annihaliation of the Palestinian people prior!!

[@Toni-hd4xw]

This Jewish defender needs to talk to Glenn Greenwald Israel allowed 10/7 to happen. They knew in advance of the attacks and stood down

[@rachelelisa92]

You sound dumb. USA knew about a terrorist attack that turned into 9/11. So USA allowed 9/11 to happen?

[@aysinduarte]

Exactly! There are so msny indicators and evidence they knew.

[@unisybale5602]

Maám be ffr

[@desireedebellis6766]

yes,spot on as well as I$rael created ,supported and financed Khamas from its conception....

[@Sahar-kf6uo]

The fact that Israel had intelligence from both the US and Egypt a year in advance about Oct 7, but the IDF on the day of, was not only so ill prepared, but nowhere to be found for 6 whole hours - it's suspicious to say the least.

[@QYXP]

I don't think Ami is as smart as he thinks he is. He never really addressed anything Dave said, just went in tangents and made a lot of straw man arguments.

[@debbiebeatty8449]

A common problem among Zionists.

[@MegaFlavio60]

Spot on!!!

[@bigthings9441]

Pretty difficult to defend genocide

[@MegaFlavio60]

@bigthings9441 only if you acknowledge the facts... hahah but if your like Ami is as easy as breathing

[@aClearWay]

it is so clear that because it is what you want to hear you think that he didn't answer to what Dave said but in fact he did, and there things that Dave didn't answer to what Ami said and asked..

[@KingDamn23]

Ami Kozak legitimately has no argument. Arguing feelings and has zero facts. It’s just so embarrassing to watch people still try so hard to defend the defenseless. 16k children and counting ☠️

[@metamorphicme9378]

Imagine being kicked out of your own country and treated like an "OTHER". INSANE!!!😢😢😢😢

[@Aliens-Are-Our-Friends2027]

Independence from Britain: 1776 Independence from Israel: 2024

[@jozette-pierce]

Are you kidding ? both Israel and Britain still have their greedy thieving tentacles trying to squeeze the life out of us, and take our place. Just one of many indicators of what they BOTH are doing is the appalling, Jeffrey Epstein untold (still covered ip) saga. Dig into that one, which is the tiny tip of the iceberg of their nefarious deeds towards America , and THE WORLD.

[@jozette-pierce]

THEY both still have their greedy tentacles trying to squeeze the life out of America. The Jeffrey Epstein case is just the tip of the iceberg, but a clear example of their abuse of the United States. A long time business partner of Epstein said the Mossad and MI6 were Epstein's HANDLERS, with MI6 calling him weekly.

[@jozette-pierce]

Tour dates are off.

[@jozette-pierce]

With "friends" like Israel and Britain, who needs enemies.?

[@Gphilly819]

Independence from Hamas

[@zzwar323]

They didn't targeted only Iraq; they targeted seven Muslim countries. Iran is the only one still standing. General Wesley Clark talk about it.

[@davidhunt3606]

Did you know that plan wasn't from the US, that plan came from Israel,

[@mustimon]

And the Plan was Witten in Israe

[@Poall-fz8hy]

That cuz Iran is not a Muslim country

[@goodsam2002]

@@Poall-fz8hy do you mean they are not Arab country? They are called Islamic republic right in their name

[@blacklotusxxxxxx]

​@@Poall-fz8hy 😂😅😂. Intellectually dead ain't ya! 😂😅😂

[@caravanrose]

Not only did they allow it... they had a hand in it 💯 False flag

[@Dan_O_Lift]

I think Ami and Dave both brought up great points. Round of applause for both parties conducting themselves professionally and not letting this sensitive topic turn into a yelling match that goes in circles. I think both men are coming from an honest place and helping the world gain a better perspective.

[@flowerful22]

Left wing, right wing. Same bird. We’re tired of the uniparty, who are all controlled by the same handlers. Go Dave!

[@msayed25]

​@@thebeatcreeper Aipac juice!

[@MS-sk5si]

Sure, but would you agree that we need to unite on one side? It’s much easier to use a preexisting platform rather than start one from scratch.

[@Danny_Lenz]

@@thebeatcreeper❤God Bless you brother. Well put 🙏🏽

[@darrylharden203]

@@MS-sk5siI think the OP was referring to AIPAC which funds, literally, the majority of our policy makers through lobbying.

[@chilltarts]

Fully agree, but Zionistic control of America is currently our biggest threat. We have to fight one enemy at a time. I am married to Jew who has chosen to follow the Messiah. I don't hate Jews, lol, but I am against Zionism 100%-- they are blackmailing and bribing our MIC into war after war after war. It needs to end. ❤ Christ IS King. ❤

[@user-xs1xw3nx2d]

Nobody ever brings up the fact that in the early days of Zionism they had ideas about making a jewish homeland in parts of Russia, Ukraine, and even South America. The idea that they chose Israel first and foremost because of a deep connection to the land and a natural right to settle there is a lie. They lobbied for Crimea for example and the Soviet leadership turned them down. As far as the whole "biblical homeland" aspect to it... Israels population is moslty secular atheists. They feel no biblical connection to anything at all. The whole argument is a scam.

[@hutchdw77]

Correct

[@winnersfootballtv5517]

If you read your Bible very well, you would understand that they are being punished for turning away from God.

[@wildemthefem5773]

Most of the Israeli leaders changed their European last names to Jewish ones.

[@hawajane3532]

they also considered Uganda, in East Africa

[@_TheGman]

And Madagascar

[@MsLozano]

Excellent debate. Candace thank you for having a platform for these kind of discussions that are very much needed! Informative and without personal attacks. Great job all.

[@sandralaganas181]

Ami How about thousands of Palestinians that were hostages in Israel prison without verbal or written documentation of grounds and without legal assistance.

[@user-hv7rq5zn3x]

Well, it's pretty clear that Ami did a good job, he always brings content and facts and he definitely conducted this conversation correctly. Dave, maybe you should stay in comedy, even though it's pretty weak for you too. And Candice for once throughout the last period I agree with you, you know nothing and that's why you brought them to learn... it's just a shame that until now you insisted on lying to everyone that you know what you're talking about. Anyway, Ami, keep up your work, you're amazing.

[@debbiebeatty8449]

Correct, every talking point he spouts actually justifies 10/7.

[@phillynomics]

"If we put aside 6 decades of occupation and focus on October 7 ..." That's the problem.

[@ajb7786]

No, it's not. The problem is people like you ignoring the parts of cost/benefit analyses that would challenge your prejudice.

[@gomini3707]

people like you try to conceal the root cause of this whole situation Occupation Apartheid Supremacist state "But hey...Let's start the clock on October 7th!"

[@joshhigdon4951]

​@ajb7786 another one blinded by the media. Bet you also are 4 jabs in.

[@300_spartansoldier5]

Clown

[@msayed25]

Hashem created earth on the 7th.

[@ronnietriplett7870]

thank you for this! it was so insightful listening to both sides and i learned so much. i only wish there was more time. i could listen for hours!

[@HINA-yf9il]

Free America from Israel

[@reetkaur1145]

This debate added a lot of clarity in the matter! Regardless, stop sending our tax money overseas anywhere and help our countries first. The funding encourages governments to run countries like mobsters and tell only one version of stories; the one that benefits them!

[@chrissyp7602]

This comment right here

[@mchiaramonte3]

💯!!

[@indahnyamu]

This comment should be pinned. Bless you for speaking the truth.

[@reetkaur1145]

@@indahnyamu ❤️

[@MartelSanders]

Wow! He's defending genocide in REAL TIME!

[@baranturhal2870]

With no shame

[@sandrahaughn1237]

When did he do that?

[@NB-yu4lj]

@@baranturhal2870yep zero shame

[@baranturhal2870]

@@sandrahaughn1237 he constantly made excuses for the genocide even Candace called him out at one point and said “it’s a very easy question why can’t you answer that” in regards to rescuing the hostages.

[@mediii8057]

HES BEEN DOING IT SINCE OCTOBER 7th

[@user-pl1hz8pu1p]

Dont forgetbthe USS Liberty!

[@soapzuds4542]

Just because there was no Palestine government didn't give Isreal the right to take these people's home.

[@menid2691]

And vice versa right? There was a J's community in Hebron for thousands of years until 1929. Same in Gaza. Not so much anymore

[@gusamoretti8520]

Also, the British gave the Jews and small land in the region. Who started attacking them? Oh yeah the Palestinians. So, they’ve never been peaceful so now they’re getting what they’ve sowed.

[@MasterofLightning]

​@@menid2691they don't care about any of that. Js are evil. This is how the H happened.

[@mellman420]

I think England gave parts of Palestiine to create Israel. England should pay for this not US

[@SNSoldierS]

Wdym with visa versa? Israel shouldn't exist​@@menid2691

[@johnm8503]

The pro Palestine side was using facts and context. The other guy was just shooting out propaganda.

[@RadiantStar8997]

... and looked very callous at times when confronted with the sheer horror inflicted on Palestins.

[@juneysmith4415]

Ami Kozak overuses the word “fundamentally”. Ami is insane.

[@memememememe515]

You don't believe Israel is the most "moral" state in the world, anymore...?! 🙂

[@RadiantStar8997]

@@memememememe515 Er. No. That was always propaganda aimed at the West.

[@beniaminbuzun5667]

​@@memememememe515 As moral as state can be.

[@renee3308]

19:47 they always play this card when they're losing the argument lol

[@qyasser]

All Ami did was argue through hypotheticals where Dave argued with straight facts.

[@mervekirmizi2992]

When Ami Kozak said "Israel is a western democracy and I don't know why you can't see that" and "occupation doesn't lead to terrorism, terrorism leads to occupation." - Israel is one of the worlds BIGGEST police states, tell me any other country where the Army is frequenting the streets and and in apartheid South Africa was not born out of the existence of the ANC and Nelson Mandela... Nelson Mandela and the ANC were born as a RESULT of occupation and apartheid in South Africa.. who were considered terrorists for the longest time.. This is all you need to know about how these people think. It's a typical superiority mindset. They are born and raised to think this way.

[@muslimsister5613]

That's the main point, they were raised to think this way. Raised to feel superior and act on that "superiority." Scary.

[@TJ-Judge]

Everything Zionists say is the reverse of reality

[@codyvandal2860]

"A western democracy" like it's Sweden or something lmao

[@debracampbell9727]

Not to mention to kill unarmed people, children and women.Its all on video now and they still dont get it !! Its always about them ! Hell the IDF were watching as Israelis blocked food coming in ! I am so sick of this !! Please stay in Israel and fend for yourself ! America has enough cults and crazies ! Heartless inhumane supremacist ! You create your problem !

[@menid2691]

I wish for you that you never have to experience what the Israelis of all religions have to endure from their neighbors. I guarantee that if your country had to go through that you'd be saying something completely different. Israel wants nothing more than to live in peace with its neighbors and to be left alone for once. Even Israeli Arabs are joining the army because they also just want to live. Start listening to moderate voices from Gaza instead of just the extreme ones. You'd be surprised how many of them want Hms to finally be gone so they can live in dignity

[@fathiyayusuf1332]

FYI 400 year's that Ottoman ruled Palestine was peaceful. No war no problem in that country. Jewish and Muslims had peaceful life.

[@Jether.]

Like in the Balkan Region right?

[@Jether.]

Also they forced children to convert

[@WideAwakeHuman]

Muslims are typically peaceful with people that convert or agree to be second class citizens

[@A358M]

I am Christian 1000% The most evil acts on jews were committed by Christians NOT Muslims. Ask jews,where did they escape to for refuge when Christians were slaughtering them for centuries upon centuries? Islamic nations! FACT.In fact, to this very day,Jews live peacefully in Iran,surrounded by anciet synagogues. To Christians: STOP shedding blood for Israel. Stop funding your money to Israel. They'll bleed you dry then say you haven't done enough. They're a people of zero humility.

[@Lurch685]

@@Jether.no, they didn’t. You just made that up. Most people willingly converted for the tax benefits. Christians loved doing business in Islamic lands because the taxes were fair and simple.

[@MarwenRicky]

Correction : They are Freedom Fighters, other than that, Dave managed to hit the nail on the head while the other NPC was spewing Hasbara utter nonsense with no facts

[@austintrees]

Now let's get two people completely emotionally divorced from this situation, not a Jewish or Israeli person who will pull their punches or won't say uncomfortable facts, and not a Palestinian. Maybe someone who knows the history back to 1880... Don't let them control the narrative, people can complain about Zionism and act like it's a recent thing... But they have thousands of years of poor behavior and retaliation against their behavior, only for them to cry victim and bully the next group.

[@matt355]

Dude is getting dog walked and doesn't even realize it.

[@Universe-life-8]

100%

[@TheCustomer]

Dave destroyed him😂

[@thinkingaloudwithmendel]

Which dude

[@revacohen]

@@TheCustomer That's your opinion! And just as there are Jews who bash Israel, there are Arabs who speak in her defense. One is Mosab Hassan Yousef, the son of a jailed Hamas leader. He will be the first to tell you Israel is NOT stolen land, the Palestinians are NOT oppressed, and there is no such people as the Palestinians.

[@Mr.NothingSpecial]

​@@revacohen mossab is a drug addict.

[@GTOberfest]

Still don't even understand how 1948 was even justified whatsoever

[@kayzeefivesixace]

The attempt of creating two countries in a region where a country didn’t exists for thousands of years? Making it two countries because Jews are the natives and Arabs are conquerors from Thailand did years ago, there never got along so the land was proposed to be split but the Arabs didn’t like that and started a war they lost? What’s confusing ?

[@cj4021]

It wasn’t.

[@layinlow77]

You're not supposed to think about that. Oct. 7th!!!

[@shroble6916]

It is not. But this “debate” is between two zionist Jews with some disagreements.

[@rafiakram3250]

Palestine was hardly Britain's to give away - JFK

[@rmjwg]

I LOVED that this conversation could happen! Kudos to Candace for hosting this and letting her guests do the talking! It was so important for me to hear this!

[@vhb2014]

This debate was the BEST!!! It was so well done, well conducted, the two gentlemen made awesome salient points, were respectful and presented both sides of the argument very well!! I really enjoyed listening to them both and learning more about the issue. My opinion on the conflict in Israel is complex because there are points on both sides of the argument I agree with and disagree with but Candace I hope you do another show with these gentlemen again.

[@DrewbattleTheGreat]

Dave cooked him

[@sebrenjemil9102]

Why is my country uncondtionaly support Israel, why? We need the money here. I'm surprised by Dave's logical argument. Well done, Dave. Thank you Candice. I learn a lot.

[@idek6914]

Right we have our own problems here

[@user-zm9kd8yz4c]

Because they own Congress

[@youngscholarslibrary]

The value foundation of your country as well as your once thriving economy has something to do with Jews. Nonetheless, in the past you committed yourselves to helping a young Israel and Israel is your only trustworthy ally in the middle East. Saudi Arabia is sick of Biden and Israel is willing to tolerate Biden just a bit longer. If you abandon Israel (which you have the right to do), do not expect any services or assistance from Israel. Just a little history lesson: Any country that drove Jews out of their economy experienced an economic crash🙂

[@T4ffynxnja]

@@youngscholarslibrary Again, you're just lying. There weren't 109 economic crashes during the Jewish Diaspora. And the guy just wants congress not to be dominated by Israeli lobbies, which is the function of democracy. Israel also led to starting the Iraq war as Dave said. The US is literally acting on BEHALF of Israel, and the world doesn't know it.

[@napwithus]

The gov can get any amount of money they need to care for humans who are a priority. MOST people aren't working hard enough to develop themselves to make themselves important. Sad reality

[@LindaLinda-ld8lx]

Great job Candace for not interfering and letting them discuss freely❤❤

[@damoncook3339]

Ah, this guy: Hamas has to be accountable for all. He never asks who is accountable for the existence of Hamas. Not to mention who is going to be accountable for the next version of Hamas.

[@Amias1221]

When anyone says “who are we to judge military campaigns” has lost and has literally nothing left to say, they know they’re wrong, but will never admit it.

[@lcfflc3887]

Deanm kid said that?

[@Amias1221]

@@lcfflc3887 Ami said that more than once

[@barbsbichons]

Why am I a US born citizen supposed to ever support Israel....EVER!!!

[@checo8187]

Because if you dont, certain home made videos, of certain politicians in a certain island with certain minors will come out.

[@b.r3228]

I believe it's because Israel is the only ally in the region and so that gives us intelligence, airbases, trading partner etc. Not saying you have to agree but I think those are some of the reasons.

[@razorback0z]

Because Kanye was right about everything.

[@Mustafa.Sinwar77]

​@@b.r3228 UAE, Jordanian Government, Saudi Arabian Government Is Also US Ally 🤣🤣🤣... Zionist 🇮🇱 Controlled US Politician

[@Haze828]

​@@razorback0zyes

[@ejiroigbesoko]

This was a productive debate! Both sides were respecting of one another, which warmed my heart ro see! Let's keep the conversation going! ❤

[@augustsunflower771]

Blessed are the Peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God! I pray that the world finds its rest in Christ and its peace in His love. I pray for brothers to stand with each other not against, and for all who sow discord to be put to shame. Amen 🙏🏽

[@graziellasidoli3043]

I cant’t listen to anyone anymore defend the Israeli government anymore, thank goodness one of these guests is a free thinker and unbiased!

[@albertbecerra]

I personally couldn't care less of the Israeli government, i don't deny theyve done bad things(as literally every nation that's ever existed). I'm more concerned about the alternative to this account, if Israel are not allowed to defend themselves from hamas, then the alternative is........

[@PessyLev]

which one? Ami? Agreed

[@Bspoor7482]

You mean the one with bad sourcing and lied? Oh wait that was the other guy Dave

[@sarahhuckabeerules4128]

JUUZ RUN THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT.

[@kristiansand2480]

A lot of IDF PR accounts hard at work in the comments section here.

[@DeusVult888]

As a Middle Easterner, I've always found it weird to see Americans so religiously support Israel, a foreign state, as if the prosperity of one depended on blind allegiance to the other. That said, it's refreshing to hear such sound arguments from Dave, a Jewish American. He effectively demonstrates that Judaism does not equate to Zionism. Ultimately, those who encourage the spread of anti-Semitism are the ones pushing the idea that criticism of Israel and its crimes means criticism of Judaism. Candace, if you see this, thank you for using your platform to allow these sensitive yet necessary discussions to happen. Your new channel is a true blessing. Christ is King!

[@BlueSmokie]

I think it's cause of religion. Christians have to be blindly for Israel.

[@jennyd9144]

@@BlueSmokie Christian here. No.

[@Drewcappelletti]

It’s because AIPAC is the most powerful lobby group and they bribe all our politicians.

[@gonzalez8530]

The evangelical Christians are the ones that push for the Israel first propaganda. Not all Christians believe in that insanity especially Roman Catholics. All the Old Testaments covenants have been fulfilled when Jesus came to earth. The Catholic Church is the new Israel.

[@Wia-ii6rt]

Seriously...it's like a cult. They've all been so deeply brainwashed. Glad people are waking up