The Great God Debate,Atheist and Christian Go One ON One (Please Subscribe)

[@GisherJohn24]

When I was trolling yahoo answers and youtube back in the day, I was loving it. I loved attacking people for their religions and their God. Then you know what happened? I lost my best friend to cancer. He was 32 years old. Diagnosed in April. He was Dead in August. It was then I realized my life was only revolving around me, nobody else concerned me, nobody. My self absorption of anger and arrogance toward a God I thought was fake and people who loved God for thousands of years made me angry. I was selfish. I had the idea that God could stand on my face I'd tell him "fuck you". That was me, I hated life, I hated people, and I hated people who said God made them happy. And my God, I did hate those rules to follow. But when my friend died, I did have an awakening, call it being saved, but it's more real than anything I've ever touched. God touched my heart, and here I am defending him because some of you feel like wasting your life typing lies and attacks on Christians because you're offended by them. Get over it. One day, you'll see it. But the longer you wait, the longer and harder it is to let go.

[@thcknast]

John S I'm happy you found something in the Christian God. The fact that religion can help people continue on in the face of pain they can't handle is great, but there are plenty of us who simply do not get solace from that idea, who still cannot believe in a god, no matter what happens to us throughout our lives. There are plenty of us who still see awe and wonderment without ascribing it to the supernatural and there are plenty of us who feel pain and longing, and all kinds of other tough emotions but accept it and feel it as a reminder of how much that person meant to us. I have lost people very close to me both at old age and much too soon, have seen loved ones wither away, losing the ability to recognize their own children. This does not turn me to faith, and there is nothing wrong with that. Again, I am happy you found something that was right for you, and there will always be haters on both sides. But to assume that someone on one side is a certain way because of a hidden agenda or some because they are not being genuine, is just trying to create pain and conflict where there currently is none.

[@GisherJohn24]

George Haw I don't have a religion, I have a relationship with Jesus. Jesus wasn't religious either. That is a nebulous term. Jesus has changed billions of lives before me and will continue to do so before I'm gone. I'm sick of kids being lied to. Public schools are a scary place. Been watching the news lately? Growing up as a kid, we had the occasional bully. Now we have bullies everywhere, both online and in the classroom and it's just ignored. I feel it's the theory of evolution t hat are bringing kids to these destructive behaviors. Hitler was adamant about controlling the text books. He said.. "Let me control the textbooks and I will control the state." That's what is going on the in the united states. WE have no control over what they are showing kids

[@thcknast]

Jesus was Jewish.

[@GisherJohn24]

George Haw Jesus was God in the flesh. That's all you need to know. I don't quite understand or comprehend it ,but Jesus said he was and he will prove it, again.

[@thcknast]

John S you may not understand it, but, assuming jesus did exist as one individual as we popularly think of him, he was jewish. You said he wasn't religious..he was most certainly was..he was Jewish.

[@namnack]

Shermer being way too nice here. A pity, it makes for a very tedious 'debate'. We miss you Hitch.

[@unkelTP]

Religion offers nothing, farming offers food. And if a person is doing funny voices in a serious debate I can not the that person serious.

[@forrestorange]

I can't believe Denesh said this: "We raise our children in a religious way, but we often implant religion in them when they're very young, they go off to school and college and naturally it is very difficult to defend those childhood views..." Essentially admitting that religious indoctrination of children is all they have, and as soon as children are of age to start thinking for themselves they may choose to reject religion.

[@isotheos1176]

i cant focus on the debate,the desk says... gaylord??

[@Bloink]

HAhahah i fucking know right!? xD

[@roso2son]

The moderator tried to steal the show by giving her own piece of lecture! The contending two views for the day are enough, she can choose her own day for another audience...

[@russellhoughton2132]

If only every debate format allowed Dinesh to escape rebuttal. He'd do so much better. Sadly for him, most formats allow him to be called on his BS.

[@Bread_Noob]

Dinesh has some really weak arguments, to the point where I'm just cringing while he talks. I'm surprised that Michael was so tame in his responses. Hitch/Harris would have had a field day with this particular debates responses/issues raised by Dinesh.

[@ICEDMX1]

The followers didn't come up with hell. The leaders of the religion did. In order to keep those dollars coming in.

[@GabrielaaCOLOMBIANA]

I think I lost a few brain cells after listening to Dinesh.

[@joeyeshua7057]

Gabriela Jones well get your cells back by watching this guy , pete cabrera jr

[@GabrielaaCOLOMBIANA]

No, thank you. I have more intelligent things to do

[@thomaswilliams2229]

Gabriela Jones You are not alone. Its unbelievable how anyone in the 21st century can possess so much stupidity

[@joeyeshua7057]

Gabriela Jones yea ! like what , find out how the blind coincidence created you ! listen friend if you are predetermined why you are arguing or why you even watching the debate, listen God is calling you you are soul in a body we don't belong to this world ok if you are really busy finish your work and watch (( pete cabrera jr))and (( Tom fisher ))

[@joeyeshua7057]

FlowerGirlArmy Rosie friend I dont why you are abusing her at by words doesn't fit with who she is , if you are a believer you must acknowledge that God loves her as much he loves you , so see her or treat her like God sees you

[@Earthtime3978]

I am Christian but I think this moderator was completely wrong to put her right wing commentary and religious poo us digs into th I s debate. in inappropriate because she is playing to the primarily Christian audience.

[@uri_k]

Gotta get me a Hitch-Fix after this. Shermer is great, but... Damn we miss The Hitch...

[@TBOTSS]

Dinesh pissed all over the Hitch as well.

[@thecelestialcoffeepot5895]

Dinesh is such a clown. I have never heard such a bogus turning of the tables as when he says (at 9:25) _"... and that is the faith that the universe is orderly; the fact that the universe is lawful; the fact that our minds (in here) can apprehend the rationality of the universe (out there). Now if you are a religious believer, all of this makes sense to you. You say 'We believe god is omniscient - he created a rational universe. God is a lawgiver - he gave us the moral law, the ten commandments and so on, so he also gave us the physical laws. And finally, we are created in god's image and so we have within us a spark or hint of the divine rationality that enables us to understand the world out there'. But this - you can only make these assumptions if you are a theist, if you are a religious person. If you are an atheist, you simply have to take it 100% on faith."_ I see - so when Dinesh conjures up a god in his imagination, and then everything else from that point on that he shoehorns into this conjured being "makes perfect sense", then his is not a position of faith. And the atheist, typically who values evidence over claims of personal experience, points to science that has collected data on the orderliness and explicability of the universe, then his is a position purely based on faith. What an idiot - no wonder he was nearly incarcerated.

[@sweetpeabrown261]

What was the gospel according to the mediator doing in a debate? The part at the very end was awful!

[@coreaccount4376]

I started the life believe in Christianity because I was born into the world knowing nothing and just accepted the stories told to me. As I matured I started to see believers as just scared people who preferred some answer to no answer at all. As I matured more, I started to realize that many Believers understand the foregoing, and know there is no God, however they believe more good than evil will come from supporting a lie they have called noble. As I have matured even more I see religion is a projection of the human inner the world on the outer world in the form of a compilation of plausible (for the ppl of the time) human-centred speculations.

[@matchbox7811]

That woman's fake laugh is louder then the entire audiences.

[@shtupping]

I'm surprised that D'Souza is still using the failed (and dishonest) stratagem of stating that what Stalin did was "in the name of atheism". He should then say that Hitler and Mussolini did their deeds in the name of Christianity. This is typical of D'Souza's dishonesty. He tried this before with Hitchens and was made to look very foolish.

[@NewWorldCT]

Hitler literally DID that stuff in Christianity. Stalin didn't do it in Atheism. The only reason Christians bring up Stalin is to try to make themselves look better. But those 50,000,000 Jews... Well. They don't wanna talk about that.

[@ZhangK71]

@@NewWorldCT That's false. Theism or atheism had little to do with Hitler or Stalin.

[@NewWorldCT]

@@ZhangK71 Yeah ok.

[@anddiheir1144]

60 QUESTIONS ON THE GODHEAD 1. Is the word trinity in the Bible? No. 2. Does the Bible say that there are three persons in the Godhead? No. 3. Does the Bible speak of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost? Yes. 4. Do these titles as used in Matthew 28:19 mean that there are three separate and distinct persons in the Godhead? No, they refer to three offices, roles, or relationship to humanity. 5. Does the Bible use the word three in reference to God? Only one verse in the entire Bible does so-I John 5:7. It speaks of the Father, the Word (instead of Son), and the Holy Ghost, and it concludes by saying, "These three are one." 6. Does the Bible use the word one in reference to God? Yes, many times. For example, see Zechariah 14:9; Malachi 2:10; Matthew 23:9; Mark 12:29, 32; John 8:41; 10:30; Romans 3:30; I Corinthians 8:4; Galatians 3:20; I Timothy 2:5; James 2:19. 7. Can the mystery of the Godhead be understood? Yes. Romans 1:20; Colossians 2:9; I Timothy 3:16. 8. Has the Christian only one Heavenly Father? Yes. Matthew 23:9. 9. Then why did Jesus say to Philip, "He that hath seen me hath seen the Father" (John 14:9)? Because Jesus is the express image of God's person. Hebrews 1:3. The Greek word for personin this verse literally means "substance." 10. Does the Bible say that there are two persons in the Godhead? No. 11. Does the Bible say that all the Godhead is revealed in one person? Yes, in Jesus Christ. II Corinthians 4:4; Colossians 1:19; 2:9; Hebrews 1:3. 12. Is the mystery of the Deity hidden from some people? Yes. Luke 10:21-22. 13. Who is the Father? The Father is the one God, particularly as revealed in parental relationship to humanity. Deuteronomy 32:6; Malachi 2:10. 14. Where was God the Father while Jesus was on earth? The Father was in Christ. John 14:10; II Corinthians 5:19. He was also in heaven, for God is omnipresent. 15. Did the prophet Isaiah say that Jesus would be the Father? Yes. Isaiah 9:6; 63:16. 16. When God said, "Let us make man in our image" (Genesis 1:26), was He speaking to another person in the Godhead? No. Isaiah 44:24; Malachi 2:10. 17. How many of God's qualities were in Christ? All. Colossians 2:9. 18. How may we see the God who sent Jesus into the world? By seeing Jesus. John 12:44-45; 14:9. 19. Does the Bible say that Jesus is the Almighty? Yes. Revelation 1:8 20. Whom do some designate as the first person in the trinity? God the Father. 21. Whom do some designate as the last person in the trinity? The Holy Ghost. But Jesus said that He was the first and last. Revelation 1:17-18 22. How many persons did John see sitting on the throne in heaven? One. Revelation 4:2. 23. If Jesus is the first and the last, why did God say in Isaiah 44:6 that He was the first and the last? Because Jesus is the God of the Old Testament incarnate. 24. Did Jesus tell Satan that God alone should be worshipped? Yes. Matthew 4:10 25. Does the devil believe in more than one God? No. James 2:19. 26. Does the Bible say that God, who is the Word, was made flesh? Yes John 1:1, 14. 27. For what purpose was God manifested in the flesh? To save sinners. Hebrews 2:9, 14. 28. Was Jesus God manifested in the flesh? Yes. I Timothy 3:16. 29. Could Jesus have been on earth and in heaven at the same time? Yes. John 3:13. 30. Does the Bible say that there is but one Lord? Yes. Isaiah 45:18; Ephesians 4:5. 31. Does the Bible say that Christ is the Lord? Yes. Luke 2:11. 32. Does the Bible say that the Lord is God? Yes. I kings 18:39; Zechariah 14:5; Acts 2:39; Revelation 19:1. 33. How could the church belong to Jesus (Matthew 16:18) and yet be the church of God (I Corinthians 10:32)? Because Jesus is God in the flesh. 34. Will God give His glory to another? No. Isaiah 42:8. 35. Was there a God formed before Jehovah, or will there be one formed after? No. Isaiah 43:10. 36. What is one thing that God does not know? Another God. Isaiah 44:8. 37. What is one thing that God Cannot do? Lie. Titus 1:2. 38. How many Gods should we know? Only one. Hosea 13:4. 39. How many names has the Lord? One. Zechariah 14:9. 40. Is it good to think upon the name of the Lord? Yes. Malachi 3:16. 41. Does the Bible say that God alone treads upon the waves of the sea? Yes. Job 9:8 42. Why, then, was Jesus able to walk upon the Sea of Galilee (Matthew 14:25)? Because He is God the Creator. Colossians 1:16. 43. Is God the only one who can forgive sin? Yes. Isiah 43:25; Mark 2:7. 44. Why, then, could Jesus forgive sin in Mark 2:5-11? Because He is God the Savior. 45. Is Jesus the true God? Yes. I John 5:20. 46. If God and the Holy Ghost are two separate persons, which was the Father of Christ? Matthew 1:20 says that the Holy Ghost was the Father, while Romans 15:6, II Corinthians 11:31, and Ephesians 1:3 say that God was the Father. There is no contradiction when we realize that God the Father and the Holy Ghost are one and the same Spirit. Matthew 10:20; Ephesians 4:4; I Corinthians 3:16. 47. When Paul asked the Lord who He was, what was the answer? "I am Jesus." Acts 9:5. 48. When Stephen was dying, did he call God Jesus? Yes. Acts 7:59. 49. Did Thomas ever call Jesus God? Yes. John 20:28. 50. How could Jesus be the Savior, when God the Father said in Isaiah 43:11, "Beside me there is no Savior?" Because "God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself." II Corinthians 5:19. 51. Does the Bible say that Jesus was God with us? Yes. Matthew 1:23. 52. Did Jesus ever say, "I and my Father are one?" Yes. John 10:30. 53. Can it be proved scripturally that Jesus and the Father are one in the same sense that husband and wife are one? No. The Godhead was never compared to the relationship of a husband and wife. Jesus identified Himself with the Father in a way that husband and wife cannot be identified with each other. John 14:9-11. 54. Does the Bible say that there is only one wise God? Yes. Jude 25. 55. Does the Bible call the Holy Ghost a second or third person in the Godhead? No. The Holy Ghost is the one Spirit of God, the one God Himself at work in our lives. John 4:24; I Corinthians 3:16-17; 6:19; 12:13. 56. Can Trinitarians show that three divine persons were present when Jesus was baptized by John? Absolutely not. The one, omnipresent God used three simultaneous manifestations. Only one divine person was present--Jesus Christ the Lord. 57. Then what were the other two of whom Trinitarians speak? One was a voice from heaven; the other was the Spirit of God in the form of a dove. Matthew 3:16-17. 58. What did the voice say at Jesus' baptism? "Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased." Mark 1:11. As the Son of God, Jesus was the one God incarnate. 59. Does the Bible say that God shed His blood and that God laid down His life for us? Yes. Acts 20:28; I John 3:16. God was able to do this because He had taken upon Himself a human body. 60. The Bible says that God is coming back with all his saints (Zechariah 14:5) and also that Jesus is coming back with all his saints (I Thessalonians 3:13). Are two coming back? No. Only one is coming back--our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ. Titus 2:13.

[@CV_CA]

At the end the "moderator" woman started to preach. WTF, that's not her job to take side.

[@EnigmaEcliptic]

i dissagreed with dinesh even when i was a christian, now i am very tempted to just skip his talks.

[@kwj171068]

i do skip his talks he just spews bullshit

[@Zwemer100]

www.patreon.com/m/AfricaWithoutBorders

[@coreaccount4376]

Moderator tries her best to spoil a good debate.

[@GaryHudsonsMusic]

The "Christian" lady moderator isn't so Christian after all, having injected a clear jab at the atheist with her remark, "We will make sure your views never become policy," or something to that effect at 18:00-30. Very typical of their "fairness" attitudes, and so indicative of their paranoia about their own position.

[@hrvad]

So Dinesh says we're influenced by Christianity (very good example with the charity thing). I'll actually grant him that. I honestly think I'm influenced by Christian morals even if I now call myself an atheist. So here's something to consider: in the year 1500 would it be fair to say the morality of Christianity was different compared to today? I think we can agree on a yes. For instance we don't burn many witches these days, right? OK, next question: isn't it fair to say that they pretty much had the same Bible in 1500 and now? Fairly sure we can go for "yes" again, right? So what happened? Same Bible, same source of morality, yet different results. Isn't the most logical thing to conclude that morality evolved - naturally so - within the people, within their bodies, INDEPENDENTLY from the Bible? Dues: we should THANK Christianity for offering the loopholes that allowed us to do science and evolve morality. Compared to quite a few others Christianity, for its time, was pretty good. Can we now switch to Sam Harris and give his project a look?

[@bleach219]

41:20 Danesh asks "Why would we come up with the idea of Hell?" The answer to that is so we have a place to send those we don't like. We like to believe the person that was cruel to us will be punished at some point for it.

[@modomodowattzzme1133]

your wrong.,... the only requirement for you to go in heaven is to BELIEVE in GOD without EVIDENCE.. for god so love the world that he gave his only begotten son that (WHO SO EVER) believe in him should not perish but have everlasting life.. even if you kill many people, do some bad deeds as long as u believe you will go to HEAVEN,

[@modomodowattzzme1133]

SHUT_Up im a non believer too... ATHEIST always forget to ask.. they always assume.. hahaha

[@utuberine]

modo modo wattzzme You are right.

[@hawkeye48]

A debate moderator is a person whose role is to act as a neutral participant. Pretty obvious after watching this why Dawkins, Krauss, and Hitch so detested having a moderator. This dame was way out of line inserting her guffaws and comments throughout what could have been a much better debate without her interference.

[@9ambrose9]

Interesting talk between two intelligent people.. However, the last word by the moderator was definitely one-sided and inappropriate. Clearly an attempt to deflect any doubts in the audience sparked by Schumer's comments.

[@brucecropley6891]

If God had meant for us to be athiest, he would of given us bigger brane's.

[@Avarr01]

A lot of Christian's defense for the bible is that they've found places and things from the bible and if it wasn't real it wouldn't be there. Some how they don't realize that it would also be the same argument for the Greek and Roman gods, yet that is seen as obviously myths and wrong.

[@Earej]

12:24 Hold it! Does it say Gaylord Opryland?!

[@ZhangK71]

It's said that much earlier than that timestamp, and multiple times

[@funkymonkey1198]

What a boring and unenlightening "debate".

[@sauniz1]

Christianity does not account for 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the universe.

[@ringgenie]

Haha, sadly you have no proof to prove that. A book of Testament is as empirical as it gets. I wonder if any atheist provide me something to back up their claim.

[@r.m.5548]

***** Your bible says moon made of cheese and aliens on it live 900 years with noah and jesus and george washington.

[@ringgenie]

Yiour Mouther Thats your bible not mine. : ) But what is that got to do with the subject? Don't assume we should live the way you perceive it. We don't mind if you keep that to yourself.

[@sauniz1]

***** Well tell me then, if the Earth serves as the setting for God's soul redemption plan, what purpose does the rest of the infinite universe around us have? Why did the ancient hebrew tribal god Yahweh create it?

[@Sparten7F4]

***** The bible i read promotes things lake rape, genocide and slavery. So yeah

[@Steve-kj9tx]

23:55 someone should tell this guy about slavery in America... and Jim Crow...

[@043ggtg]

dinesh talking about morality is ironic, wasnt he running around the country at this time with his "secretary" cheating on his wife?

[@coreaccount4376]

41:00 why come up with hell? Because we want to see the ppl who wronged us suffer. Those impulses existed before we invented hell, and hell is just one manifestation. Cultures that have no hell have something like hell. Ever see someone steal your bag and run, and you wish the person would trip and fall? If you have then you have experienced the source of the idea of hell.

[@jacko5000]

gaylord opryland?? lmfao shit had me cryin

[@ineffablemars]

"gaylord" though

[@coreaccount4376]

44:10 so it's a popularity contest now? Most ppl believe in god therefore they are right? Well 90% drivers think they are better than average too.

[@urcorrect]

There's a god debate?

[@TheLatestYouKnowWho]

"...who designed the japanese guy?" 0:53:59

[@thomaslara590]

IF YOU HAVE A GREAT MIND YOU CAN'T BE A CREATIONIST..

[@NewWorldCT]

I think someone with a great mind can be anything. But being just anything doesn't make it right. Half of the creationist are just fucking crazy because they go against everything that is literally fact in science. Creation Scientist? Absolutely not. They're not even scientist, they're just weird man. lol

[@thomaslara590]

PowerMagika HAVE a great mind believing in UNICORNS?

[@wandajohnston8352]

i think 60 mil will burn in the atheist view only God has the Holey way !

[@thewizeard]

Oh, good Atheists go to Heaven too!

[@brucecropley6891]

Something to look forward to ;)

[@JTStonne]

All religions growing isn't a good thing.

[@JnWayn]

D'Souza talks a lot of crap

[@ICEDMX1]

When I realized that no god exist, I became a better person. Now I know I have no "get out of hell free" card. Now I know that getting on my knees and asking for forgiveness has no power whatsoever. If I offend someone, its on me to make it right. I don't put it on Jesus to clean up my mess.

[@bleach219]

23:40 Religious dude showing yet again his ignorance. He is explaining how he doesn't share any genes in common with a guy in Rwanda. If that were true then the guy in Rwanda wouldn't be even of the same species as him since all those part of a species by necessity share a great many of the same genes or they wouldn't be the same species. He really needs to take a basic biology class so he can learn about genetics.

[@jesusloveyou9523]

Atheist are mad

[@DustinZilbauer35]

No, we're rational.

[@ville477]

Dustin Zilbauer No, you're delusional!

[@jesusloveyou9523]

:o

[@proatgaimz]

ville477 delusional to what exactly?

[@Earthtime3978]

Atheists are not big on conveying humour .

[@Earthtime3978]

***** Thank you for supporting my point about Atheism in this video.

[@Earthtime3978]

***** First rate confusion of "seriously" with poor humor. Thanks again.

[@Earthtime3978]

***** I'm happy to admit I'm not a Creationist. I also don't assume, that's the difference.

[@brucecropley6891]

LOL