The Greatest Hiking Boot In History...vs. The One That Beat It

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The Danner Mountain Light. The best hiking boot. Also the boot that was in "Wild" starring Reese Witherspoon. To some people these are one and the same. Either way the Danner hiking boot is getting really trendy this year and by that I mean it probably was and I missed the wave. It's the leather, waterproof, Gore-tex lined, boot from the 70's. Anyways, today we are looking at one of the best* hiking boots in the world and comparing it to the newest best hiking boot in the world: The Merrell MOAB 3.
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[@dannydebonis]

Heads up: you can go to the Danner factory store in Portland and get a "second" for half the price. Most boots simply have blemishes on the leather. You can also watch them "re-craft" boots. Surprised you omitted any mention of "Wild" by Cheryl Strayed, which I'm sure spikes sales. I believe that the book cover was a stock photo and Danner made a boot to match it for the movie.

[@Handles_arent_a_needed_feature]

Wdym second?

[@jonathansandberg5219]

@@Handles_arent_a_needed_feature Factory seconds in footwear are usually a product that has an aesthetic quality flaw but are completely structurally sound. They are discounted for being imperfect.

[@Oakley5100]

I second this! It's how I get all of my Danners now. I mean my current Danner Lights that I use for hiking were marked like 60% down due to a mark on the toe....

[@emiliaganchorre]

I passed there today to Crary Shoes on the same road.

[@jandlovec1181]

Portlander here, the Danner people are rad. They care about their employees and their city (they give away a lot of boots to non-profits helping people on hard times), and you can visit the factory and get factory seconds and samples at a deep discount. Also, it’s just a cool place to visit.

[@Chestarify]

Just got my Jim Green Razorback Boots today and am loving them to bits! They are doing great in the berlin winter so far

[@TheIronSnail]

That's my next vid!!

[@TheIronSnail]

Actually not my next but soon!

[@Chestarify]

Looking forward to it!@@TheIronSnail

[@peanutarbuckle2879]

Big fan of my Razorbacks, though they're currently out of commission. They handled ankle-deep mud and knee-deep snow like a champ, but now that things are defrosting up here the slush soaked completely through them. Not bad for a non-waterproof boot, now I just have to wait for all that leather to dry and recondition them.

[@va6gkthaskey311]

I custom ordered Jim Green AR8'S steel toe! The extra height coverage for me makes all the difference. Solid boots, in turn a heck of a break-in period 🤷‍♂️ definitely worth it though.

[@antdenzic7977]

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[@TheEmpiredown]

Been wearing my Mountain Pass Gold Rushes for a couple years now. Perfect for me. I like the retro style and find them on my feet just as often as my other brands, particularly when I want a little more presence and style. Great vid!

[@gojohnnygo]

This dude is very likable. Seems like a real, honest dude. Keep up the good work.

[@jrandom2995]

Great video. I’m a hiker & camper and I made the switch from the Moab to Danner, and back to the Moab. I’ve worn merrell hikers for about a decade without any issues, but as I learned more about better quality and trad built footwear I invested in the Danners. Unfortunately I couldn’t get them to be comfortable. I own several pairs of Goodyear welted boots/shoes so I understand break in. I just couldn’t get the Danners to work for me. I switched back to the Moab and it continues to be a great performer in a wide range of conditions.

[@AAAA-FourA]

Cool video. This was the boot worn in the movie Wild. Since then has become a fashionable boot for women. Especially with the thick red laces.

[@mburry]

No other look as cool as the classic styling of the Danner’s.

[@hobokyle7504]

I live in the mountain west so wear boots a lot and so feel like I have some experience with boots... the one thing that I'd mention is that Merrell makes "throw away" boots/shoes. I've never had a pair last longer than a year with heavy use (although their customer service is quite good and will replace them). A pair of boots like Danner (I personally use/prefer Zamberlan) will last faaar longer and get more comfortable the longer you wear them. I'd say a good pair of heavier leather boots will be a far better bargain in the long run, especially if you are using them often.

[@steveperry1344]

i'd say most boots now are throw aways and not meant to repaired or resoled, besides there are no more local cobblers.

[@hobokyle7504]

@@steveperry1344 I agree most boots now are technically "throw away" but some boots will last far far longer than others...

[@steveperry1344]

i worked outside for the power company for 42 years and went through a lot of boots , the good and the bad. the last 20 years or so alot of us wore really good and fairly expensive hiking boots that we would get at the local REI. i found these boots held up the best and provided the most comfort and support for long hours of work and being on your feet. we could climb poles with them too even though i did have pairs of lineman climbing boots also. we would buy vasque brand and others and they were very rugged. backpacking type. we got a yearly $150 boot allowance from the company as part of our union contract. i always took good care of my boots and found the bottom soles would wear out before the tops. the vasque boots did not seem to be repairable and when they wore out i would donate them or get rid of them.@@hobokyle7504

[@hobokyle7504]

I've always wanted to try Vasque boots... it's good to know they can't be repaired. I've found that using hiking boots for work can wear them out in different, more severe ways... I'm guessing 1 year on the job = 5+ years on the trail for boots.@@steveperry1344

[@mikewingert5521]

Danner boots were THE boot for private purchase to be worn by the British army SAS in the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s; in black leather. I don’t know if that’s the case today. They were seen as just the very best one could buy….🇬🇧

[@lovepcgaming2335]

Snag a pair of surplus danner RAT boots for about 150 usd. Had the same pair for almost 5 years now and had em recrafted 3 times. The Marines that have seen me wear them say they were the best boot issued to them.

[@bruceself1141]

I work a job that requires boots and ive tried them all or at least all the popular choices, keen, merrill, redwing ect. Danners are by far, not even close, my favorite boots. They look good. They stay waterproof longer than any boot ive owned and they last longer than any boot i own. And for me at least, they are very comfortable.

[@Andy-Mesa]

Until recently I worked in the footwear section at REI in Portland, OR, and after the intro I was about to light up your comments, but turns out this was a very well presented review. You covered pretty much exactly why people should get this boot; the craftsmanship and sourcing is exceptional, the customer service is impeccable, and no boot will last longer. Do I own pair? Heck no, I wear Salomons, because they're way lighter, cheaper, and easier to maintain. Moabs are a Hall of Fame boot, but they are also way too heavy.

[@scottulrich2725]

Any real PNW boot will last longer.

[@Sovnarkom]

@scottulrich2725 PNW boots are mostly work boots that aren't comfortable enough to do serious hiking (20 5 per day, for example). A notable exception is the hiking boots from Viberg, which look similar and are very athletic but still made to the highest quality. Nicks (like most PNW brands) just make a 5lb modified work boot with a reduced heal stack and padded collar.

[@scottulrich2725]

@@Sovnarkom Tell that to wildland firefighters...

[@AlexanderHonsVonEber]

@@scottulrich2725there’s a reason why long range back packers don’t wear the same boots wildfire firefighters wear. lol.. totally different needs.

[@scottulrich2725]

because they can replace their boots/shoes like they are disposable -- because they are. If you spend long amounts of time in the backcountry you need something durable and comfortable. Nothing replaces leather for that and hasn't for thousands of years.

[@timhuffman5311]

Good work on the video. Try a can of Snow Seel, this is the stuff we used back in the 70's to waterproof our boots. Just rub it into your boot leather particularly around the seams and tongue. The trick is to take your hair drier and melt the wax into the leather. Two coats will last a long winter.

[@f1y7rap]

Sno Seal is a good product for pure waterproofing, but its a wax. It doesn't let your foot breathe at all nor does it let the leather breathe. Mink oil is a far better product. Its a natural oil so its good for the leather, its a paste (like shoe polish) so it goes on easily, it doesn't clog up the leather pores like Sno Seal does. When applying it, put it everywhere! Every inch of the leather, and that includes the tongue and in the creases. Apply a coat, let it sit in a warm area, then reapply in a few hours. Keep doing this till it doesn't absorb any more oil and leaves a film on the exterior. If you don't like the film you can buff or brush it off lightly. Reapply each season.

[@Nowhere888]

Danner told me not to use Sno Seal on the newer models of the Danner Mountain Light because it has a gortex sock that the wax can plug. Just use leather dressing for the upper once a week if you wear it everyday.

[@GrahamGibby]

Did you *watch* the video? You don't Sno-Seal Gore-tex boots. And it comes in jars. We also didn't wear seatbelts in the 70s.

[@ahill209]

@@Nowhere888 NEVER use leather dressing 1x/week!!!! It'll soften the leather to the point where it will stretch and disintegrate because it's too soft. Maybe 1 or 2x per year, but not every week. Most leather conditioners only provide modest water resistance. Mink oil is better if you desire water resistance.

[@marlenakauer5262]

A pair of Danner ridge (like the Danner light) in 2020 were my first recraftable boots and largely why I chose them as my hiking boot. I do think you’re over paying a little but agree they are unique in terms of USA Union made etc. I like how light they are and I have definitely put them through their paces. The sole and leather has held up. Some of the stitching has come apart and the waterproof lining has either torn or failed because they’re not really waterproof now. For the stitching, I don’t think it’s QC it’s more just I wore them for trail clean ups, hiking and carpentry projects. For sizing, the run narrow. I will probably buy another pair instead of recrafting just because these are too narrow for me. Hopefully the next pair I’ll get re crafted. I recommend going up a half a size if you’re gonna wear thicker socks or if you have wide feet like me. Great video as always Michael! Also, have definitely been there too walking in the woods in a puddle and all of the sudden your foot is soaked haha

[@amccarty2012]

I have my dad's pair of 6490s he bought brand new in 1972. I stopped hiking in them about 10 years ago but I do still wear them a few times a month in casual wear. If I ever got around to having someone properly resole them I would hike in them again no doubt.

[@tylerddh]

I got the Eddie bower and they where great. I work as a field guid and my keens, while being more comfortable out of the box and lighter would fall apart after 3 months. The Eddy lasts forever and if you throw some wax on them they are water proof. Even when i was being lazy and not replying wax they would stay dry unless i stood in the river for a minute or two. Took a while to really break in but where super comfy when they finally broke in.

[@sush3450]

I think, when you consider the 'heritage, handmade in the USA' boot market, Danner is actually amazing value for money. The Red Wing Moc toe is probably a close second and as someone who has owned both I think the danner mountain lites beat them out only because they are more comfortable once broken in imo. I have had my danners for over 7 years now and i've had one resole done and they're still my absolute favorite boots I own. As always, awesome video!

[@thetruebatman4632]

Lol Mike I gotta be honest, I don’t have a whole lot in common with you other than we’re both men and we both like nice stuff. Love the information in your videos and the transitions lol, we do have a similar sense of humor. Made a fan here in rural Texas.

[@clarkelliott6272]

I replaced my Moabs with gyw boots simply for the fact that it lasts longer. Although now that I have a nice pair of summer boots, I might just end up getting a tone of different ones and then end up with the same problem we all have. Too many nice things.

[@TheIronSnail]

Too many cool boots, so little feet (comparatively)

[@TioMogi]

​@@TheIronSnail speak for yourself, I have big feet. 😅

[@eyespy3001]

I bought a pair of LL Bean boots that are Danner-like a few years back (don’t remember the name/model, and they are fantastic. Around the toe box, there’s a rubber cap, like a very, very subtle duck boot without the ridges. They have Vibram soles and are insulated on the inside. They are also half the price of Danners. Granted, they most likely aren’t made in the USA, but they’re damn fine boots that are built like tanks. Edit: Did some searching and they are the LL Bean Knife Edge hikers from 2017.

[@eagleeyes9770]

Interesting video as always! I like Danner’s heritage style, but prefer Asolo fugitive gtx (resoleable) for functionality. My trail runners are good for light afternoon hikes. I still prefer traditional boot support on longer day hikes, and especially when backpacking.

[@Meridan800]

Great review! Did your feet stay dry though? That creek looked deep. I think would be nice if Danner extended the tongue gusset to the top of the boot. Even if they had to introduce a seam for that, it would help the waterproofness. I have Asolo hiking boots with top gusset and its super helpful when fording creeks and puddles.

[@wisenber]

I bought my Mountain Lights over 25 years ago. I rarely hike in boots now, but the Danners are still fully intact with several thousand miles on them. My leather Scarpa mountaineering boots have even thicker leather and don't have g-tex. Scarpa silcone treated their leather then making the leather waterproof without a liner but more breathable since it doesn't have g-tex.

[@bencritchley2005]

Fit is so important on a hiking boot. These look quite wide to me which would be a deal breaker. I bought a pair of Lowa boots recently for more serious walks and I’m loving them so far. They are quite weighty though! 440 dollars is a lot for that sort of boot though, definitely puts it in more of a fashion space rather than purely a hiking boot.

[@zekeyeager1458]

Actually, the 650 last is quite narrow, and long. There is also the Mountain Light II (2) which is just a model that offers standard (D) and wide (EE) widths. Unfortunately, the classic Cascade color does not come in the 2’s. They should fix that :/

[@marlenakauer5262]

Having owned a pair of Danner, can confirm they are not wide. They do have sales consistently around Black Friday.

[@googeluser7098]

You are reviewing the Danner Mountain LIGHT, which is a gore tex lined version of the OG 6490 but with a comfortable light outsole. The Danner Mountain TRAIL are the closest to the 6490 and are still available to purchase for $20 cheaper than the LIGHT. They are leather lined like the originals but they have a Vibram Gumlite outsole instead of the Vibram Unit Lug Sole. You can get a Mountain Trail pair and resole them with a unit sole and boom, you have a real peice of vintage history. Last year they were available in Brown Chromexcel for the anniversary, you and Mr Anvil are a year late.

[@NickyB0718]

I’ve had a few of these danners, great boot. I wish they still offered the heavier original vibram lug sole with the steel shanks though. The current wedge style vibram lug is great, very comfortable, but I’d be very willing to have the original style soles.

[@flt528]

I hike mostly Eastern high peaks and have both Danner Mt Lights (NON Goretex) and Merrell Moabs (Goretex version). I far prefer the Danners for 3 reasons. 1) the "non-waterproof" Danners are waterproof and the "waterproof" Moabs are not waterproof. How's that? The Danners are full grain leather, and if you periodically rub Snoseal or similar oil into them, they'll be 100% waterproof, whereas the Moabs have a "waterproof breathable" membrane (i.e. an extremely thin porous plastic sheet) that tears after you've hiked a few peaks in them, after which they not only leak but take forever to dry out. 2) The Danners are stiffer so they provide better support than any hiking sneaker. 3) One pair of Danners will last as long at 10 pairs of synthetic hiking sneakers.

[@BillNelson-OU812]

Danner are great as an around camp work boot but I remember while backpacking 120 miles in 10 days in 1993 my trail buddy’s Danner boots became flimsy after day 4 and caused many blisters even though he broke them in ahead of time. My Hi-Tec boots were much less overbuilt but held up fine and I even hiked a couple of days in Teva sandals which were new to the market at the time and the earliest minimalistic design. A few weeks ago I summited Mount Sinai in Egypt wearing basic Blundstones and even though I wished they could’ve been laced tighter for the descent (since they’re slip ons) they held up extremely well and still look brand new. Trail runners are great for backpacking and hiking but man do I love Blundstones now. They feel good every day after many miles.

[@df540148]

As much as I love heritage GYW leather boots, I would never wear them for more than a few miles of hiking. Synthetic boots are superior in nearly every way.

[@basedury]

Love the look of the Danners and have been really wanting something like them. The Rose Anvil videos kind of turned me off from Danner though, and I definitely don't think the mountain light is worth over $400, it's ridiculous. Thanks for including the similar boots at the end, I'm going to check them out!

[@naptha87]

Just my opinion but don’t let rose anvil or any other guy online turn you towards or away from a style. The best boots for you are the ones that feel good on your feet and the guy has never seen your feet!

[@JK-zq9vw]

@0:56 that tree just behind you looks like a woodworkers dream. I don’t know which I would like to see more, the burns all turned on the lathe, or boards for a piece of furniture! I need to look and see if any fine woodworkers are using a heat source to remove moisture and a large vacuum containers to remove air then add a resin to stabilize it… a lot of work before you even think about gluing or fastening it together.

[@davem6442]

Very good review. I looked at those to replace Vasque Venturer boots that I had until 10 yrs ago since 1976. Being they had a rockered sole I chose not to resole the Vasque. Looked at Redwing their parent company but I wanted another pair of lifetime boots with a leather inner. The quest was ended when i found the Alico Summit full grain with leather lining. If I hadn't found the Alico on sale I'd likely have bought the Danners.

[@UnknownUser-rb9pd]

I think you demonstrated at the start of the video why gaiters are so popular (and necessary) in many parts of the world where hiking is in wet environments. And also why having GTX in your boots just ensures that the water can't escape when it does get into the boots. And it will get in (unless you wear gaiters...and even then) as water splashes over the top or works it way down your clothes or... BTW Meindl make all leather boots including the lining and are available in the US.

[@sdemosi]

Meindl Islands are fantastic. Hopefully some day Meindl will produce more shoes in my size (US 13.5-14 depending on brand) so it's easier to get them.

[@UnknownUser-rb9pd]

@sdemosi You should try the big German retailers like Bergfreunde who sell a lot of Meindl that are not available elsewhere and also sell in large sizes. They are owned by Backcountry in the US (or they own Backcountry). Others include Bergzeit and exxpozed.

[@tomwilker2861]

My first pair of Danners in 1972 lasted for 30 years. They trekked all over the desert Southwest, mountaineered in the Sierras, were my motorcycle boots and finally my work boots in a machine shop. Unfortunately, they were left in my 65 VW camper when I sold it. The soles were shot, the uppers were finally and still waterproof. I found the exact same boot at Goodwill for $20 in new condition(even with the hard plastic insole)…the break-in has been tough but they are on my feet, ready for what remains of my life’s adventure! They are like a Brooks bicycle saddle, keep them clean and oiled, break them in and they are the last boots you will ever need.

[@Melanie-Shea]

Unless I’m ice climbing I only use sticky approach shoes or trail runners now. A stiff boot is great for heavy loads, but I don’t think I even personally know other hikers who have had to carry 90+ lbs loads, it’s just not needed for the vast majority of hikers.

[@andystoolbox]

Most importantly there are plenty of great boots to choose from including the Danner's. Great write up my friend, stay well.

[@jasonsiemens2694]

I recently found the EB K6 boot for $100 on Amazon. Fun comfortable boot. The soul is great, but I’m not sure how many recrafts the leather will last. Look forward to getting them out in the wild this summer!

[@ToddiGreat-le2qu]

A boot with a soul doesn't kinda creep you out , Jason? Lol

[@gswguy4554]

I bought the merril Moab 3 and it was ruining my feet….. I bought the Danner Mountain 600 and solved my problem with blisters and mild shin splints…. Unbelievable how comfortable the mountain 600 is for walking…. The Danner mountain 600 is $60 to $80 more than the Merril but absolutely worth it…. For me…. Bought a 2nd pair on sale from Sportsman’s Warehouse. Won’t stop walking now.

[@dusty7264]

The originals were good as a alpine climber, I have been wearing La Sportiva boots for years, they are simply the best, for general hiking or doing the 8000 meter peaks they have a boot that will do the job

[@sdemosi]

Same applies for Lowa and Scarpa. They have boots for every situation.

[@Gulgonful]

I did the presidential traverse in a pair of gortex danner- then did it again in a pair of Hokas. Two schools, both cool I do think that the mountain lite has been popular for a long time - think of ladies lounging in j tree with big dumb hats (they’re all florists) and ekru or sage colored double front work pants

[@TheIronSnail]

Oh! I may copy you!

[@Gulgonful]

@@TheIronSnailyou should, a hut to hut trip is a great spin “This union made single piece leather boot climbed mt Washington” I found it weird that they don’t come with insoles, but that made them a good winter hiker for me, like a Lundhags or something made for a double sock combo ❤️ from VT

[@TheIronSnail]

...that may be the title soon, lol! TY! I just got back from VT

[@waterfalls4540]

many folk use custom insoles which is why insoles have become so lacking and even missing@@Gulgonful

[@CKT1138]

Somewhat unrelated but I would like to thank The Iron Snail for getting me interested in the Wrangler Cowboy Cut jeans, I LOVE them now and I never thought I'd like wearing jeans as much as I do now that I got a pair in my wardrobe

[@woodywoodiwoode]

I bought Moab’s for an old job, building barb wire fence, and it was the best decision I made. I don’t think work boots are made for walking miles on end. I made this decision based on reading some message boards about boots and soldiers in Afghanistan were using a Merrill Sawtooth boot. They were raving about them. They were discontinued so I settled on the Moab. Still have a pair in the closet.

[@markb9892]

Can you wear a double E width? I used to be able to wear the Danner styles like this when they came in a B width. C'est la vie. Fortunately I still have a pair of Danner Ft. Lewis light boots in 12B that will probably well out last my lifetime. Great review. Thanks.

[@BenAnkobiah]

It’s more of a workwear boot than it is a hiking boot. Might not be as popular in the UK but never have I seen anyone wear it. They don’t look as comfortable but I guess I haven’t worn it myself and isn’t breathable because of how good the leather looks. Amazing review as always

[@ethanbaran6158]

I think these days older style lesther boots like these are a preference thing, but they probably would do well as work wear like you mention.

[@bk99911]

Scarpa make similar leather hiking boots and would be quite popular amongst hikers in the UK, specially those who go off trail into mud! I personally prefer the Moab type.

[@brunonjezic6208]

Meermin dropped they're hiker last year and proportions on that thing are insane. Im personally going for Fracap. They seem to be inventer of this boot style though I can't confirm it because Austria and France had they're specific stuff around that time. Also Fracap is possible to get on this kind of danner alike combo of rubber and soft material between. But good video. I also feel Danner is ok and it needed to move with time to survive and I appreciate that

[@colmcgillveray1010]

Hard agree on every point there. I also found the breaking time for danners to be much longer that Fracaps and they held up better over time.

[@souvlanki]

When you say the proportions are insane do you mean the Meermin boots are good or bad?

[@brunonjezic6208]

@@souvlanki good. Excelent proportions in my eye. I had pare and it was great. Unfortunately i went half size too small

[@souvlanki]

@@brunonjezic6208 Ok thank you, would you suggest to size up then for Meermin's boots?

[@brunonjezic6208]

@@souvlanki my feet are between sizes so it is a bit hard but count on the tip being empty due to the european style of the last. Dont try to put toes in it. Best advice is to put them on and feel is heel to ball right, that is are you fully standing in it. From what i see they have 2 families of lasts, one similar to hok and other to Hiro but i can’t confirm. Bouth me and my girlfriend tryed they’re stuff per they’re recommendation and it ended up that our size is half up from what they recommended haha

[@michaelt9245]

I remember my first pair i got in 2012/2013 ive gotten them resoled multiple times it seems these come back into being cool every 10-12 years

[@jasonkrasowski4673]

I’ve had these boots for 2 years now. Be warned,! They are still very heavy! Like, my ankles were sore after the first few times in them all day. But, by biggest complaint with the boot has to be the lace O-rings ( or whatever you call the thing the laces go through ) they rust. I wear mine here, in Chicago on the snowy, and salty streets and mine started getting rusty on the first winter. Don’t have this issue with my Red Wings or other boots, so this is a real bummer for me, and makes it a boot I don’t feel is worth the money. I find myself babying the boots and wiping them down after being out, and I don’t think that should be the point of a boot that’s supposed to be a tank. But regardless, another great video dude!

[@f1y7rap]

While the reason for the rust is the magnesium chloride used in modern ice-melt, the easy fix for ALL leather boots and shoes is mink oil. Apply it like shoe polish to everything, including the lace rings and hooks. If you are not polishing or oiling your boots each season you are dooming them to a short life. Once the leather has been well treated before first wear, only need to apply a coat each season thereafter. No babying needed. All of my work boots and retired combat boots get the same treatment. And the leather remains supple no matter how many times they go swimming.

[@yifanzheng1999]

danners are cool. but after a 3 day hiking/camping trip in the appalachians, boy am I never gonna go with heritage boots again when Im actually hiking. They're just so heavy.

[@critterkllr]

I've been wearing Danner's for over 10 years. I have very wide feet. The reason I continue to wear them is because when you break them in, they form around your feet. I prefer to go bigger on the Mountain Lights for winter hiking, but like Mountain Light II's to be a little tighter for shoulder season. I wouldn't wear either for summer unless it was a short hike where I needed a lot of extra padding and support.

[@ran3030]

So you have the lights and the light IIs? How do you size yours? I’m on the fence on which to buy and no one local has any in my size.

[@critterkllr]

@@ran3030 yes. I ordered a few different sizes from REI and kept the ones that fit the best. I found them true to size.

[@roninchaos7650]

Thanks for the response. Did REI give you any trouble with returns at all? Are you using any insoles? Any tips for breaking them in?

[@critterkllr]

@@roninchaos7650 no trouble at all with returns, but I’m a member. I did use superfeet insoles on the Mountain Light II’s, but they caused some wear in the goretex lining, so I would recommend seeing if you really need them.

[@adamr63]

Most modern leather hiking boots are available in Gore-Tex or leather lined versions. The GTX versions always have synthetic liners, the ones without are usually leather lined. Except for in my winter hiking boots I'll alway choose full leather uppers and liners and no Gore-Tex, I prefer the better breathability and never miss the added waterproofing. They all have glued on rubber soles, usually with a rubber rand. For this OG style with double- stitched soles and leather uppers, Hanwag makes a few incredible and beautiful models, one of them, the Stuiben II, is a light tan traditional Bavarian hiking boot that would look amazing on the streets these days as well as in nature, but they are in the $500 range. I used to wear Merrells, for lightweight modern hiking shoes and low boots, they lead the way for many years, I think now there are better performing options in the same price range.

[@krisjonesuk]

I have a pair of Dieme hiking boots that are similarly constructed, except they are Norwegian welted. They have a Sympatex waterproof lining. They were £300 (about $382), whereas Danner retail for around £425 ($540), over here.

[@michaelt9245]

I just found a pair at this second hand store for 80 USD my guess is that they were just used for a photoshoot or gifted to someone they were only worn once

[@randaldavis8976]

Got a pair of Vasque Whitney 2's bought in 1976. still okay, but showing its age. Will have to look at the Danners

[@jameshughesdavies]

hmmm I dont think I'd stop wearing my Hanwag Tashi for these... but love the review obvs x

[@andrews9719]

Not a fashion minded person, but I like good American brands, which led me to your channel. That being said, I think you should check out Jim Green boots, like the razorback and African ranger, which are rugged and have a hiker boot aesthetic. They’re also from a great company that gives great boots to African Rangers, who stop poachers throughout South Africa. They’re way cheaper than Danners, but they’re excellently made, making a good alternative. Rose Anvil did a collab with them on the rangers boots, and raves about their quality in the videos he does on them.

[@TheIronSnail]

That's the next vid!!

[@TheIronSnail]

Wait sorry I'm actually switching the schedule around -- it'll be out when it warms up a bit!

[@andrews9719]

@@TheIronSnail all good, looking forward to seeing it!

[@klaushuxley3342]

The soles on my Rangers are separating! Whatever they use to stitch the soles together is disintegrating.

[@andrews9719]

@@klaushuxley3342 that’s strange… from what I’ve seen, they use very good stitching that easily lasts till it needs to be re soled. I’d suggest getting touch with them and having it repaired.

[@konstantinmuesboeuf]

I would love to see a comparison between the MEINDL PERFEKT and the MEINDL SUPERPERFEKT... what do you think of these? Greetings

[@nathanspoor3021]

Bulletproof Cookie - new favorite thought in my head

[@feeeelz]

what camera was this filmed on those shots look so good

[@DM-ve8vb]

I once hiked in the Andes on a big guided trek. There, the porteadores (sherpas) carried 22kg packs and wore sandles without socks.

[@SeventyNineNine]

Watching this while wearing my Diemmes. Found out the outsole is not meant for the snow! Felt like I was hydroplaning.

[@klaushuxley3342]

I've owned Merrell Moabs before. They're comfortable, but they only last a couple months before the soles come off - and they are absolutely hideous to look at. Waste of money, IMO. On the other hand I own two pair of Mountain Light IIs, and they are my favorite shoes/boots by a long shot. My only beef is the price, though they do last a long time. Compared to my Red Wing moc toes, the Danners are built WAY better. It is interesting regarding Rose Anvil. I've purchased some of the boots he has recommended, and I've been very disappointed (Jim Green / Red Wing), but he didn't like the Mountain Lights, and I absolutely love them.

[@sdemosi]

I feel similarly. He has very definite views about what constitutes a good boot but it might not correspond to comfort for a particular wearer.

[@christophegenest2974]

Love your jacket ! Where did you get that, whats the brand ?

[@RAAZR-]

I have 2 pairs of Diemme Roccia Vet and I love them

[@clobberonline6812]

These boots were made for walking !!! Brilliant review Sir !!!

[@skywarriorg2221]

Loved that sponser portion lol

[@davidcostello7320]

Goretex in a hiking boot is terrible. It does not breathe well and causes hot and sweaty wet feet over the course of long hikes. And over time the membrane breaks down where your foot bends and creases form and your boot is no longer waterproof.

[@flt528]

Yep. Fortunately Danner makes a non-goretex version of this boot, which is perfectly waterproof once you rub mink oil or snowseal into it.

[@Nowhere888]

The best thing about the Danner Mountain Light is that it will last 30 years. Trust me, I wore it for 30 years nearly every day. If you put leather dressing on the upper once a week then it will last...and last...and last. You will have to replace the sole a couple of times for around $80 but no big deal. Great for snow. Great for mud. Great for hiking. For everyday wear where weight is not a concern go with a Danner Mountain Light. You can pass it down to your kids.

[@eddy808.]

Great video as always, big love from italy! One question, I finally bought this pair of boots about a week ago. I love them but unfortunately every time I wear them they destroy the back part of my foot (where the boot start). I feel the neck of the boot is rubbing a lot on my achilles tendon. Did this happen to you in the breaking period? It will soften with wear? Thank you!

[@klaushuxley3342]

I own two pair of these boots. One of them was a real pain to break in because I was wearing them in the middle of winter, and the leather did not want to flex at all. I also had issues with the boots rubbing on the back, which I rectified by lacing them up a little tighter. But when they are broken in, they are very comfortable. I freaking love the boots.

[@eddy808.]

@@klaushuxley3342Good, then I will try to wear them as much as possible! Thanks

[@justintempus7406]

My mountain lights have lasted a decade of hard use hunting and hiking and still look good/work well. My Merrell Moabs (bought them for work where comfort won out and the company was buying) hardly lasted a season of field work as a rangeland manager before they went to the big dumpster in the sky. If the "nice" features last 10% as long, are they really worth the savings?

[@HeritageCast]

Whats good about hese Mountain Lights. Is they have style and function.. The Moab is the Dads Cargo Shorts of Boots lol...

[@deezynar]

You missed their most obvious problem, they need months of wearing until they get bent enough times so that they begin to flex with your foot. And every time you wear them during that break-in period needs to be short or they will rip the skin off of your feet. It's a stupid design that ignores its purpose which is to bend where your foot bends. The ideal boot would be made to order from careful measurements of each foot. Those measurements would not just find the sizes and shapes of each foot, but they would also locate the joints in the skeleton so hinges can be included in the boot shell that will let each boot bend where each foot bends. Not only that, they would restrict bending that could cause ankle damage. We are at the place today with computer measuring devices that also draw and provide computer aided manufacturing information so completely custom boots can be made by machine.

[@craigbrown2385]

i live in the colorado mountains and take my dogs hiking every weekend and i would never where my Danner's hiking. but i love them when i dress up like a lumber jack and go to the bar

[@OsOQRT]

I have a pair of Danner Combat Hikers and now i know where they got the idea for them now.

[@JacobThebaultSpieker]

This Saint Bones ad is _amazing_. Taylor seems like a rad. Big fan all around.

[@10baiserx]

As someone who has owned both Danners and Fracaps, Fracap wins hands down and it’s honestly not even close. The cheap fabric liner in my Danners started to fall apart within a few months, compared to the full leather lining in my Fracaps which still looks brand new. The quality of the leather on the Fracaps is also much, MUCH better. Fracap also lets you customize every aspect of your boots on their website from the eyelets to the leather/suede to the outsole at no extra cost, and their customer service is second to none. They even ask for your measurements so the fit is perfect. I’m also not sure I understand what you mean by “feels like walking on leather boards”. My Fracap m120’s are the most comfortable boots I’ve ever worn, bar none. Again, not even close. They feel like sneakers right out of the box, almost no break in required. Fracap is also Goodyear welted while Danners use a stitch down construction. And as you can see in Rose Anvil’s video, Danner’s midsole is trash, especially for $440. My Fracaps honestly made me wonder why anyone even buys Danners anymore, they’re genuinely that much better. They’re the boots I wanted my Danners to be. I wouldn’t recommend either for serious hiking, but for a modern alpine style boot for casual/city wear or for walks under ~5 miles I don’t think there’s any better value than Fracap. And the Eddie Bauer k6 is garbage, doesn’t even belong in the same conversation imo. Promise I’m not a shill lol. I just feel like Fracap deserves more recognition.

[@RandomGuy-qm3mg]

back in the 70's all leather boots were pretty much the only choice for backpacking. Getting back into in 10 years ago I quickly learned trail runners are the way to go. The full leather boots look cool but weigh a ton especially when wet and take forever to dry.

[@waterfalls4540]

depends on how much weight you are carrying. heavier loads mean heavier boots.

[@Watcher413]

My Danner Mtn light 2 with GoreTex I dislike round laces and had to replace the break in period was rough in comparison to other boots. But it’s great for me 100% synthetic material boots begin to smell really bad and equally as fast for my sweaty feet and they wear out within 6-8 months and I need to replace them. While my pair of Danners I’ve now owned for 7 years no issue still work as good as new and look almost new, way more comfortable than any brand I’ve ever seen in an regular American outdoor store with synthetic everything. I use a thin leather insert inside my boots then the orthopedic insole that comes with it and it’s been a godsend compared to anything else I’ve ever tried and all I gotta do is minor maintaince every 6 months that takes me maybe an hour of my time. That sounds pretty good. The boots have literally paid for themselves in the first year or two depending how you want to look at it then since then saved me a few thousand and has served me better than anything else. Only downside I’ve noticed is the leather could be a bit thicker.

[@whitemexican3923]

I have a pair of Danner 2650 hiking shoes. I will start the CDT again in them this year (2024). I wore them last year and never gave it a second thought. What I mean is I did not have any problems or difficulties (no sore spots or blisters). I stopped after only a couple of hundred miles as my 75 year old wife had an accident and I had to return home as she was facing major surgery. I plan on taking these shoes with me when I return this year in April. IF, like many trail runners (although these are not trail runners and are what I would call an actual "hiking shoe") these come apart after 500 miles I will then look to Danner boots. I really think I am ahead if I can buy and use boots that will not have to be replaced along the trail. As far as weight-they aren't that bad. On trail runners I think the trade off is not acceptable because of the short life span. I mean, 500 miles?? I think they are meant for what they say, "trail running", and then home. I feel as I get my trail legs under me the weight issue will disappear. I have to add that I was on a Outward Bound 6 week hike in my youth and used boots. Of course everyone did. I had not fit them right and had blisters for awhile. Then this problem went away. I remember keeping those boots until I was about 60 years old (ha ha). Good boots. The protection of the sole with boots is out of this world it seems. I have been on the CDT a lot in the last few years and noticed many hikers battling blisters even though they had "trail runner" type shoes.

[@jonathansteele8601]

Are models included in shipping with the sunglasses or did you pay extra?

[@ohmother5050]

try out limmer boots! basically original dinners but a little bit lighter and w some foam in the midsole

[@93rjose]

I bought a pair of boots named kenetrek scrabble boots from a guy who wore them once inside his house to try them on. He let time pass lost the receipt and ended up in my hands for a 100$ . They are worth about 400$ I love them

[@josephnash3015]

I bought a pair back in 1993 while I was stationed in North Dakota. I honestly didn’t like them. Why? They provided little traction on ice, and weren’t that warm in sub zero temperatures. So I threw them in the closet. Fast Forward to 2020, I remembered I had them when I started hiking in Utah, etc. I realized then they excelled in loose dirt and rock. I’ve worn them so much now, I may have to send them to be re-crafted.

[@BPF80MCar-vi1pg]

Get the Zamberlains. They are like Danners but Italian and better

[@user-ue1nq8pm1t]

If I need speed, it’s better Salomon Speedcross, but if the conditions are difficult, I take army boots. Army Danner are not bad. I have similar vintage Danner, but I couldn't get used to them. It feels like you're walking in ski boots. I'm thinking of replacing the sole with a regular Vibram. Still, they look amazing. But in the forest, elegance look is not very important)

[@randynovick7972]

The Danners were so, so painful for me on break-in (on the achilles) I ended up going to a custom Korean (Songlim) boot to get the performance and comfort. Danner is dead to me, long live Danner.

[@DMorgan77]

Fun video as always. How many takes did you guys have to do for Taylor not to laugh lol?

[@TheIronSnail]

You know we actually did everything in one take and i started to think that taylor didn’t think i was funny ever and she was always faking, lol!

[@12Radius]

I have these boots. I got them they were $200 USA . Toe box a little tight...even if you get wide EE . Try kenetreck boots real nice.

[@TheIronSnail]

Go to saintbones.com/discount/IronSnailand use the code IronSnail to get 10% off on all eyewear! *Dear everyone -- please don't worry, the boots got a DEEP clean, condition, and wax after that treacherous water logged day. They look fantastic and I'm so proud of myself.*

[@Highland_Paddy]

I've mostly had OK success with cheap combat boots for day hikes. Many tell me in comments that these won't hold up to the rigors of whatever survival challenges they claim to engage in, so that may be the case, but I'm in a mostly dry climate and not putting on the same amount of miles weekly as I was five years ago or whatever, but companies like Merrill I think don't typically come in my size, blah, blah..............

[@mikefeng3703]

I have a pair in black and love it!

[@olvinm130]

I like this style of boot, I have a Ralph Lauren’s take on this. I’m sure it’s nothing like the beast of Danner’s but it wasn’t $440 that’s for sure lol.

[@TheIronSnail]

OH those look amazing -- thanks for mentioning them!

[@olvinm130]

@@TheIronSnail you’re welcome, they look similar those beautiful GH ones you shared at the end! Might have to check those out in person

[@ABD5667]

Have you tried the Jim green ranger?

[@noahrobertson7199]

Personally I love my mountain lights. I watched a lot of videos that made me skeptical, but after a year of good use I wouldn’t trade them for the world

[@tracywilkinson1820]

I've owned both Merrell's and Danners and I can say the Merrells are lighter and more comfortable, aaaand they fall apart fairly quickly. Used to not be that way, but the last few I've bought have come apart in less than a year. Danners are more sturdy and well built. I don't wear hikers, my danners are work boots and I was using the merrells as work shoes as well. Danner's hands down are superior IMO. Plus they go better with my 16610 sub. See what I did? (is that a PRX?)

[@cornpop8570]

I just bought a pair of lems Boulder boot and I think there the best and most comfortable for hiking.

[@ericclaptonsrobotpilot7276]

Do Limmers. Get on the waiting list now so the video will be ready in a year!

[@tnan123]

This style of boot is one I'm not sure about. I see the appeal for hiking, but at least in my hiking circles everyone seem to go with trail runners or synthetic hiking boots rather than leather nowadays. Most leather footwear is either more formal or heritage/workwear stuff nowadays and these seem out of place in either realm.

[@TheIronSnail]

I know exactly what you mean -- for me it's fun to mix it up with both. I think old fashion leather boots are fun to age and see how they hold up to water, etc. but trail runners, synthetic boots, etc. are also fun to see all the new tech going into them + how light they can be I do the same with heavy wool jackets too

[@adamr63]

@@TheIronSnail I went down the synthetic boots route after using Scarpa, Raichle, and Meindl all leather hiking boots for decades, I liked the lighter weight but when I adopted my German Shepherd and started walking 10-15km daily, I started balking at the expense of replacing them regularly. I went back to leather boots and have become reconverted, though I wear hybrid hiking shoes in the summer on hotter days (Salewa these days), and for less demanding terrain (I live in the Swiss Alps and can encounter every kind of condition in a day). Modern all leather boots from the best companies are now supremely comfortable with little break-in, outlast synthetic boots by a few hundred percent lifetime, and offer better support and control right through to the end of their useful lives, not the case with the lighter synthetic boots. I have higher rise fleece lined ones for winter, mid and high rise ones for summer, and they can all be resoled for around USD $100, making the choice a no-brainer as they can be resoled at least twice if the uppers have been taken care of minimally (I wax the uppers once or twice a year, and brush the mud off when it dries, that's all they need. I predict these newest technical monstrosities like Hokas will disappear in a few years, people will get tired of the lack of ground feel, the expense and short life, and the popularity of that look of drop off a cliff as quickly as they came into fashion. Leather boots will remain a popular, if still slightly fringe, option for many generations to come, and not just as a heritage or nostalgic option, they fill a niche that no synthetic boot can.

[@roberthuffmann8204]

The midsole on my Mountain Lt have started to deteriorate. I’ve had them for almost 10 years. That’s my only complaint. Any advice?

[@Cliffhangeradventures]

I need these boots my friend!

[@martinerhard8447]

The issue with gorotex + this leather is that the gorotex cant breath below it

[@thomasbailey9820]

I had my first pair in 1982. I just want a new pair because they are perfect