The GREATEST Talaria Controller Has Arrived! // Torp TC500 Review/ Install

[@robmccabe8736]

Hey guys, first off love your channel. Been watching it all the time. First time commenting rob from Vancouver, Canada. The reason I have MX4 Sting is because of you guys now you guys think this is the best Controller out of all the ones you've Tested. the idea You don't have to change the motor or a battery Is what I like Just a 1000 bucks, and you Get a great upgrade. Great videos keep Them coming.❤

[@mxracingunlimitedltd7784]

The upgraded battery can come later lol.. Honestly from friends modifying their E-bikes.. I dont see the need to run a 72v on a bike with a controller and with a stock motor at least. The 60V/60ah Upgraded size and power Chi batteries for example, gives you all the same amount of current you need on a bike that probably won't see an upgraded motor or if it is not used for just street riding. Maybe thats why im alittle biased, we do more offroad riding than street riding on our ebikes and half have wider wheels with custom 19"/16" and even a 21"/18" setup with the upgraded MX forks, etc. Upgraded controller's, two are surrons with Torps, and they have soo much more range, and they do 60+mph on a heavier modded woods bike basically lol. Thats good enough for me lol.. Im pretty happy with the stock MX4 power, im just alittle taller/bigger and more power is always fun, but it never really feels underpowered to the point that i cant ride in deep sand or mud. So i really cant complain.. But as far as a 72v 38aH vs 60v 60aH Max, i dont want the taller & seemingly heavier 72v battery that also still gets less range than the 60V setup. All with similar power on these light bikes, with the right upgrades, at the end of the day. I know higher voltage is more efficient, but the stock parts not efficient at all, and it shows in how much of a difference a simple motor controller swap can make on a brushless electric motor setup..

[@roryharness2379]

Been waiting for this video and ordered it up. No cutouts, iOS app, brake sensor regen plus throttle regen I am sold 👍🏻 Thanks guys

[@Talariaboys]

Good choice!

[@pameladuran2885]

Same!

[@simonbrown4162]

Hey legends! I must say I appreciate you guys and the awesome content you put out on the Talaria Sting R, I’m from the “place down under” (Australia) and am currently saving up for the Sting R. You guys have honestly helped me out soo much in terms of what bike would be best for me and my situation as I’m disabled from the waist down. Keep up the good fella’s!! Much love! 💯💙

[@hunterps26]

I was waiting on this video. I just ordered mine with the discount code. thanks for the video

[@bastianpeter3617]

Hi Guys, i have the TC 500 since 2 weeks in my MX4 and its fantastic. I ordered the Torp Display and the Thump regen too and this combination is the best for me. Field Weakening is set at 100. I got a Mail from Torp and they told me that the Mx 4 Motor is a low KV Rating andcit doesnt turn fast. The original Controller got about 120 FW. You can set this to 100 with no problems. If you put the mode button on the Torp display for about 6 seconds you will also get a legal 45 km/h mode. Press it again for 6 seconds you are again able to switch between eco and sport. Sorry for my english but the years in school was a long time ago. Best wishes from Germany. Basti

[@davidenriquez-g6u]

how does it affect range?

[@Dommy_Doo]

Does the torp display show exact battery percentage or does it just show the voltage

[@bastianpeter3617]

@@Dommy_Doo exact battery percentage. Greets

[@bastianpeter3617]

@@davidenriquez-g6u i was on a 2,5h ride with a friend. I got 40 percent on a 52t sprocket, my friend 48 percent on 54t sprocket. The speed and torque by my friends talaria cuts extremely out and that was very bad. The Torp got with 40 percent almost MUCH more power in every situation as the original controller fully loaded.

[@EpicNameTag]

@@bastianpeter3617 do you have an upgraded battery or stock?

[@matthewbergsma7455]

❤ya. Just ordered one. Ben waiting for this review sense it torp came out for Surron. Love the great advice tests and everything. Throw that clip of lopping out in all the vids.

[@miguelforcillo9705]

Hi! could you do the test with a stock mx4 vs an mx4 with torp 500 and 52T?

[@BrennanBertram]

wow I'm surprised as with tax and shipping the e ride pro is still $200-$300 more and that's not counting resale on the old talaria controller you guys sold me on the talaria and i will most likely be getting that controller some time down the road, Thank you!

[@WeweCool-ci4df]

Finnally! I’ve been waiting for a torp talaria review!! Thanks boys!

[@DanVanLife]

Will I have more torque / power between 20-35 mph to crack the throttle and have wheel come up easier?

[@Talariaboys]

Yes, it will

[@realkidcarter]

we need to see 72v battery with this next please

[@JackAlexander-q5f]

I sure enjoy your show i'm from St. Louis Mo. Hope to see more of your video

[@TheRuckusBoyz]

I don’t get how the Torp controller made it top out at 54mph my mx4 tops out at 55mph completely stock out of the box with the brown wire cut, I guess rider weight difference? If I got a torp controller would my top speed be 58-59mph? Since it adds 3-4mph lol

[@Talariaboys]

You aren’t actually doing 55. Your speedometer is off. Test with a gps and you won’t get 55

[@TheRuckusBoyz]

@@Talariaboys i will check that! But another thing we don’t understand how my mx4 is faster than my buddies surron with a bac8000 and bypassed battery lol we’re new to the ebike electrical😂🤷🏻‍♂️

[@PixogenPixels]

Even most cars/motorcycles are off by like 5 or so. @@TheRuckusBoyz

[@LamosRides]

So much poweeer! I'm wondering whether Talaria stock gearbox can handle this much power long term without breaking down. Any real world experience with this?

[@Talariaboys]

Many people including us have been running over 20kw without any issues to the gearbox!

[@LamosRides]

Awesome, glad to hear that. I'm tempted to tune Talaria with Torp, too.

[@jeremiahvasko2983]

Hey been watching you guys for a few weeks now since I been looking at getting a Mx3 I was wondering what is the best battery and motor upgrade option to run with the Torp 1000 controller they came out with

[@cardenasHimalayan]

Hi guys!!! Torptc500 o ebmx x9000??? From stock batery....

[@Talariaboys]

X9000 is the way to go☝️

[@robnaugle4149]

So basically this controller makes the Sting R into the best buy on the market for performance over the Pro SS, StingR+TC500+Thumb Regen Brake with $50 TB discount=$100 less than Pro SS. I think this is what I am going with. Seems like the best option.

[@RyeJG]

And sting r is $300 on sale rn

[@robnaugle4149]

I got my Sting R the other day and put the TC500 w/ thumb regen plus a bunch of other stuff and its so great. The thumb regen is awesome, you don't even need to use the brakes that much.

[@swhalstead]

And the gearbox is smooth and waay quieter than a belt drive

[@swhalstead]

Also Torp sells direct from their website now. Price was usd $915 no tax pls $43 shipping in 5 days from Croatia.

[@octowoomyg6672]

@@RyeJGwhere

[@RyanSnzek]

How do I set up my brake sensor or brake regen cause with the tc500 mine is messed up,

[@Talariaboys]

You need to go into the Torp app and turn on all those settings, please look through the app until you find them.

[@robertmccaleb1400]

There’s is many options when you want a light and really fast bike a Luna cycle is on my list

[@sauliusastrauskas61]

Which one controller is better: Torp or Nucular?

[@Talariaboys]

Really hard choice man. can't go wrong with either honestly

[@MousePad9]

would using this at max power and going full throttle a lot have a big impact on range or is it not that noticeable?

[@Talariaboys]

For sure! Max power and throttle will drain you a lot faster.

[@nxdboi]

MX3 compatibility?

[@Talariaboys]

Just confirmed with Torp that they have a software updating coming very soon for the controller to work with Mx3 battery and motor, it won't have the same power as the mx4 because the mx3 battery is not as capable but still a nice upgrade. We don't know exactly when the update will release but should be within a couple weeks to a month.

[@nxdboi]

@@Talariaboys thanks for the info! I'm super hyped about it. Just in case you get to speak to them again, should we expect about the same kind of jump in power as the SurRon with the Torp controller?

[@Talariaboys]

Great man! Glad you’re hyper, yes I’d guess a similar jump. Hard to say for sure but definitely a couple KW

[@scottm.456]

Out of all the contollers you've tested...which one are you putting on your bike with an upgraded battery? Specifically for me with the best regen braking as I ride mountains and my brakes get overwhelmed even with upgraded mt5 floating rotors and cool stop pads.

[@Talariaboys]

This answer to this question really depends on what you are wanting to get out of a controller... What is the max power you are wanting to run? What is the max top speed you want to get? Do you know how many phase amps you want to be able to pull? Do you know what your battery is capable of? Will you ever want to upgrade motor? These are all questions we would want an answer to before we make a good decision.

[@sandybartlett1333]

Another amazing video. Just ordered talaria sting r based in your recommendation. Di you still think this is the best controller upgrade. Once again you guys make amazing content

[@Talariaboys]

Thanks for the support! Yes the torp is still the best option for a stock talaria battery and probably the best when you upgrade the battery

[@Jamminn555]

Great video guys! Runnin' in the snow!! Looks like an AWESOME controller. Lance, what is your helmet/goggles/GoPro system? Wanna get that exact setup. Cheers, gents.

[@Talariaboys]

I run a FXR Helium Carbon Snowmobile helmet that I use for both e motos and snowmobiling. We use a gopro hero 11 and a purple panda microphone setup into the helmet with this adapter.www.amazon.com/GoPro-3-5mm-Adapter-Official-Accessory/dp/B01L2CPPH2/ref=asc_df_B01L2CPPH2/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312106635483&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10643873918392376979&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9029699&hvtargid=pla-343408346132&psc=1&mcid=dac81ce97c803f6d82f2f34a1eb412a6&gclid=CjwKCAiAuNGuBhAkEiwAGId4aqbjUS0kT2bRuR6GkDTq1AIj9XzexW8abwu7BFvgd3EE4tUTD81tXRoCQhIQAvD_BwE www.amazon.com/Purple-Panda-Lavalier-Lapel-Microphone/dp/B01MSKI46R/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=18PA2S1PL89V&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.13vg3veBE5V2yvp1VOT6v2hRmVBLQCRSMdOZYZXzFHlpUmBNDg9P9JE3VVFK2Xv4Q8RHwQ-JVlNfw2XY33RDvqNLUPVuJ4s2HoEctia9H_cxZ3otOCu6WsAc7AI0NxP3bAdPNTfsU6OkgVTo71-Y0wSihn_VDF0BKiQVD5FIzaPGjZ6O3t1CallkWhTGYGc6z7tiaw7kp06KOEogPuCCIPl4cxhHvKSefsvZPAx3SBzIr0AAUWLxcnUvltJYgKst0yPKL89zf8nr5olbEsdIYfF9DXTjlHAQ_WpjMXxyizI.Dcz4qV9zDo8c691f9dzWvuiUCKN7cs3_VeObDu0TV4U&dib_tag=se&keywords=purple+panda+microphone&qid=1708478393&s=electronics&sprefix=purple+panda+microphon%2Celectronics%2C126&sr=1-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&psc=1

[@Talariaboys]

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[@Jamminn555]

@@Talariaboys Thanks, Lance!

[@tannerworley6919]

Great job with these videos, been wondering about the functionality of brake thumb lever regen, is it progressive based on how much the level is moved

[@Talariaboys]

Yes exactly! More you push the more braking you get, you can also set how much power it maxes out at within the app

[@swhalstead]

At low speed the regen thumb brake is powerful enough to lock the rear wheel on pavement.

[@vinceroble]

How comparable is the Torp500 on the 72v battery compared to your ebmx x9000? Assuming the x9000 doesnt have the configuration to run as much power on the 60v

[@Talariaboys]

They are actually able to run the same power

[@ThaReilDeal]

how do you turn the brake sensors off in the torp app?

[@Talariaboys]

Did you find it? Just keep looking through the pages it’s not super hard to find but I don’t have a bike with me to connect to to be able to tell you exactly.

[@ThaReilDeal]

@@Talariaboys yes i did thanks for replying doing some shopping right now on your new website thanks again

[@Talaria567]

I got the same controller for my Mx4. Per Torp you need to run roughly 80 field weakening because the motor is different from the Surron and when I tried to run lower around 40 I would max out around 37-38mph. At 80 I get to roughly 47-48mph with all the power to the mph limit. It doesn’t fall off the same as the oem controller. Ran it for about 3 hours in sugar sand no overheating. Great setup so far

[@James-fh9zd]

So what is the real top speed with this controller? 48 or 54?

[@benni16it]

@@James-fh9zd guess it should do 48 already stock... depends on the sprocket used..

[@shawdcutler4481]

yeah the newest gens of mx4 do 53 right out of the box. And if getting this controller could get me to 60mph id do it.

[@Talaria567]

You can now go to 150 field weakening. My stock mx4 topped around 48-49 but the Torp even at 80 has me into the low 50s

[@swhalstead]

I’m running 50mph with a 50t sprocket. And that’s adjusting the speedo to match my gps.

[@47Lonzo]

Guessing this wont work with the mx3?

[@tampa_teco1051]

I'm trying to figure out the same.

[@benni16it]

torp website says specificly mx4 so no.

[@47Lonzo]

thx bruv @@benni16it

[@Talariaboys]

Just confirmed with Torp that they have a software updating coming very soon for the controller to work with Mx3 battery and motor, it won't have the same power as the mx4 because the mx3 battery is not as capable but still a nice upgrade. We don't know exactly when the update will release but should be within a couple weeks to a month.

[@Talariaboys]

Just confirmed with Torp that they have a software updating coming very soon for the controller to work with Mx3 battery and motor, it won't have the same power as the mx4 because the mx3 battery is not as capable but still a nice upgrade. We don't know exactly when the update will release but should be within a couple weeks to a month.

[@WatchYaGitten]

Would there be any reason for this controller to not work with the xxx as is?

[@Talariaboys]

No it doesn't work currently, they need to build a different motor tune and design mounting brackets and cover plate specific to the xxx.

[@WatchYaGitten]

@@Talariaboys that makes sense lol Thanks guys!

[@joedover-i3j]

i wanna make my talaria sting mx4 faster should i get this controller or the tc1000 controller and what else should i do to gain more speed for a cheap price

[@DoZiDoz.]

Was your guys plate that goes over the controller plastic? Mine looks different on the inside and it’s plastic I was hoping it would be metal

[@Talariaboys]

Yes it is plastic. It seems durable

[@S3brandon]

Will this be plug and play with the l1e version from China? With the bigger display and work with the flashers and everything?

[@Talariaboys]

Yes

[@jamessmith8155]

How much does it affect the battery...range etc. That's my only question, oh and does it void your warranty, I suspect it does but do you know for sure. Other than that I'm interested. God job on the install portion of the video, concise and easy to follow.

[@Talariaboys]

The harder you pull the throttle the faster you drain the batter, so yes range will be effected if your doing hard pulls but if you ride like normal and only go full throttle sometimes your range will be very similar to before. I can't say for sure about warranty, its more case by case in our experience.

[@DoZiDoz.]

you should do a video with this controller and a 52t sprocket! since the sting r hits the rpm max with a 52t sprocket with a stock controller would this controller fix that? i want to put a 52t sprocket but dont want to lose that much top end

[@Talariaboys]

You could definitely use the torp and a 52tooth sprocket to get past the rpm limit and go faster

[@jjg82100]

I have an MX3 and MX4. Definitely picking this up for the MX4....but does anyone know if throwing the soon to be spare MX4 controller on the MX3 is possible/beneficial??

[@Talariaboys]

Yes that does work, it will just change the feeling a little. Worth trying out

[@lilvegasbasc-se7en-0-duece67]

My favorite part is the size. I wosh they would make one for super73 and all the other that people mod. Would be REALLY beneficial to have a small controller instead of a brick under your seat.

[@sketchy9219]

So whats the best controller for mx4 , torp tc500 , torp tc1000 or the nucular ?

[@Talariaboys]

Its a hard question man, we will have a video coming in around a month comparing every controller in one video. They are all very good though

[@PixogenPixels]

On the install video is the mic clipping? Might want to check settings. Great video tho. Super hyped that the it beats the eridepro. Any updates on battery life if you are juicing it?

[@windowwasherfpv3485]

Just ordered mine with the promo code like I said the last video I’ve been waiting months for this thing to come out. Have you ran it with a 72v battery yet?

[@Talariaboys]

Nice! Yes we have ran it, not extensively but it was fast!!!

[@ermac6466]

So does that mean you managed to make a 60 volt faster than a 72v?

[@rickyboy199554]

I don’t get it, how is the Torp better than the EBMX 9000 on a stock battery?

[@Talariaboys]

At the time the torp could get more power out of the stock battery. Since this video the x9000 can get the same power. They are both great options

[@sstrey174]

Whats the difference?

[@RyeJG]

I ordered a torp1000 will I be good to run my stock motor at 17KW on the torp 1000 on a 72v chi battery?

[@PixogenPixels]

No way. MX4 hit like 120c if you do like 6 seconds of throttle above 14kw. Also with the torp. If you select like 13kw. You'll actually hit like 15kw It peaks like 20% over what you select. If you want to run anywhere near 17kw for more than a few seconds you need a motor too.

[@Talariaboys]

You can turn it up as high as the torp power slider lets you once you select the battery type and have your motor calibrated, that is what torp has set as a safe level.

[@PixogenPixels]

@@Talariaboysdo you guys know the max regen back to the battery I could set? For a chi 72v max?

[@ThaReilDeal]

hey talaria boys i got the torp installed and power it on and get error code 00 can you help me figure it out and my bluetooth will not conect to controller it just keeps scanning

[@Talariaboys]

email us [e-mail] we will help get it sorted out.

[@ThaReilDeal]

@@Talariaboys thank you for replying i figured it out i redown loaded the torp app and everything worked perfect i see you have an online store can you put the bolts that you do your seat riser mod on the talaria so i can buy them

[@Talariaboys]

Awesome! We are definitely looking into adding the seat riser kit.

[@Questrides]

Does this lower the range on stock talaria batteries

[@Talariaboys]

If you pull full throttle yes you will die faster because you’re running higher power. If you ride how you did before it will be the same.

[@robmccabe8736]

One test I would love to see you guys. Do a stock MX4 against the new Torp. Controller 21 18 wheel set with the same guarantee. I want to see what the difference is. See, I'm happy with the stock power. I'm worried. I will lose power if I put 2118 wheels on my bike with that new controller. I'm thinking it might be the same. And that would be good for me.

[@windowwasherfpv3485]

It’s 4-6 mph faster it’s not a drag race tho

[@venzpro23]

im leaning to get mx4 over lbx, and eride pro ss, and im getting torp as well, do i need to upgrade the battery too?

[@robertmccaleb1400]

How am I able to buy a new bike when I may want a scroppion really skinny and lightweight and longer and lower

[@RyeJG]

I just installed the Torp 1000 on my mx4, when I first put my battery and everything in it came up quick as error 00 but went away once I calibrated motor but when I click on battery info on Torp app it says it can’t read my battery and check my wiring, it also doesn’t let me set my battery current past 120a which means I’m only pushing 7.8KW which sucks for the money I spent on the controller any tips on things to check?

[@Talariaboys]

Just sent you a message on Facebook

[@swhalstead]

Did you ever get this sorted out? I saw torp website has a warning about certain stock batteries not working with their controller.

[@RyeJG]

@@swhalstead I did, it was just a beta update I had to install

[@hustlasstory7611]

Should i get a eride pro or the talaria. Street use mainly.

[@Talariaboys]

We really like the talaria on the street because of the gearbox. The pro SS has more power and range though

[@S3brandon]

Would love to see a range test with this and stock battery

[@S3brandon]

Also more comparison vs the pro ss

[@rudymartinez4665]

Hi guys great content as always. I installed my Torp on my mx4 last Friday. What tire size did you put in the Torp app? My speed is off alot compared to stock controller. Thx

[@Talariaboys]

We just left what we had in the stock display and its still accurate, we haven't changed anything in the torp app

[@rudymartinez4665]

@Talariaboys thanks for timely response 👍

[@sstrey174]

Did you get this issue resolved?

[@noriebadoneify]

have a Talaria Sting mx3. what controller should I get for my bike. I have a K.O Nano now. But I like the torp or nuclear. I will be purchasing a 72 volt battery soon. K. o doesn't look promising anymore. Love your videos by the way. Been following you guys from the beginning. Keep up the great work guys. I'm from ny and I ride street mostly and some off road

[@Talariaboys]

you cant go wrong with either of those controllers! for a stock battery i would probably go with the torp but if your planning to upgrade your battery then they are both amazing, We definitely prefer them both over the ko.

[@DoZiDoz.]

Just got mine today had to come back and watch to see how to install it

[@Talariaboys]

🤙

[@nielsbeeusaert1143]

does it work on the l1e?

[@benni16it]

well the l1e got additional mirrors and lights... why shouldnt it work? ;)

[@Talariaboys]

Yes it does!

[@Scottyman99]

What advantage does this really have over the stock controller for $1000 just for a couple mph faster??

[@Talariaboys]

Mostly the adjustability in modes, throttle feel, more torque, and 12 kw of power

[@DoZiDoz.]

is this better than the nuclear one??

[@Talariaboys]

It’s simpler to use and has better customer service but the Nuc seems smoother

[@WarfighterGroupMilSim]

Do you guys think Talaria is going to be releasing anything soon to compete with the Pro-SS speed and price point? Would love to see a quick gearbox driven bike out of the box!

[@robnaugle4149]

There's no need IMO. The Sting R + TC500 controller is better than the PRO SS, better drivetrain, faster, thumb regen brake, more aftermarket, and quieter and about equal in price or $100 cheaper.

[@swhalstead]

@@robnaugle4149 Exactly!

[@JohnnyColchester]

Has anyone tested the range on this controller with base stock Sting R battery and motor and everything?

[@Talariaboys]

Not yet

[@maximoliverius9602]

Can you use this with a 72v????

[@Talariaboys]

Ya dawg

[@maximoliverius9602]

@@Talariaboys if I 72 V would it just plug and play or would I have to change settings in the app?

[@swhalstead]

I just ordered the controller kit, display, and regen button direct from Torp for under 1100 shipped.

[@Talariaboys]

🙌🙌

[@TomTom-gx1sm]

Hey, can you please say if this is better than the Nuclear or not?!

[@Talariaboys]

Personally I like the throttle feel of the nuclear more than torp, but all around, Torp seems to be the better product.

[@er_ave90]

Can I install this controller in my stage2 m1

[@Talariaboys]

not currently

[@monKiBoomin]

Would the tc1000 work with stock battery?

[@Talariaboys]

Yes!

[@ToneNYC718]

Is Torp going to sell the regen thumb throttle without the wiring loom since it is unnecessary with the TC500 controller? I figured they could knock a few bucks off the price if they sold the thumb throttle by itself.

[@Talariaboys]

They don't include the thumb throttle with the kit... its already only sold separately.

[@ToneNYC718]

I meant are they going to sell the thumb throttle without the wiring loom. I think it would cost less without the unnecessary wire loom. @@Talariaboys

[@Jusner]

Is it normal that max speed hasn’t increase at all?

[@Talariaboys]

Yes in this case the torp doesn't really add top speed.

[@Jusner]

@@Talariaboys have you tried the new beta update?

[@smiler2022]

bro i ordered a 79 bike anjd its been over a month i think i got scammed how fast did u guys get urs

[@Talariaboys]

You didn’t get scammed, it takes a long while to come from China, we have been waiting for nearly 2 months for our 2nd bike, it just reached customs in America so will be here soon. Sadly it just takes a while to get things on the slow boat from China haha

[@justinweatherly6520]

I’m curious to if you add this controller to the sur ron X with the 38AH battery, how it compares to this in a drag race with the sur ron being lighter ??? @talariaboys

[@Talariaboys]

The talaria would smoke the surron! Even with the surron having a controller the Stock Talaria would be just as fast.

[@ryanboothe7946]

What kind of helmet is Reed wearing in this video. That thing looks slick.

[@FunkyPanda25]

will that controller cover limit the use of some bash guards?

[@Talariaboys]

Potentially but I think it would still work with most. Or could be adapted to work.

[@Thewatched1lol]

I'm here for the talaria I ordered my ewatt battery In the nuclar p24f Do you guys know what the max power rating to safely run on the stock motor is for the xxx I know both motors are I p m from the Mx4 versus the triple x But I heard it's power capabilities are different. Not looking to rule the world on my triple x. Just make my commute a lot more Exciting maybe twelve thousand peak, six nominal I'm ordering my m x 4 in a month or so

[@Talariaboys]

We are running our xxx with Nucular and 74v battery at 13kw max but only hit it for a a second before it drops down. I’d probably set it at 12kw to safely pull that on stock motor.

[@Thewatched1lol]

@@Talariaboys Thank you guys so much. I really love the channel keep up the excellent work

[@jorgensen.gt3]

Would you rather the torp controller over the nuclear controller?

[@Talariaboys]

Hard decision man

[@rwolfcastle]

Any support for the MX3?

[@Talariaboys]

Just confirmed with Torp that they have a software updating coming very soon for the controller to work with Mx3 battery and motor, it won't have the same power as the mx4 because the mx3 battery is not as capable but still a nice upgrade. We don't know exactly when the update will release but should be within a couple weeks to a month.

[@rwolfcastle]

@@Talariaboys I appreciate you checking and getting back to me. I'll keep my eyes peeled for future announcements.

[@boraeser3396]

Yo talaria boys I have the nucular controller and can push around 13.5kw on the stock battery if you tune the setting from your laptop. It also get rids of the throttle cutout after 10 seconds of full throttle.

[@jaxhess]

Just curious I just bought a nucular controller when they posted theyre video for around 790$ new and I haven't took it out the box yet . Should I return it and buy the torp ? Can I get quicker speeds with the torp . I don't know just cuirous because I don't know anyone else with a nucular

[@silvan125]

​@@jaxhess on Stock battery and stock sprocket the nucular had more topspeed Nucular 57 mph Torp 55 mph Because nucular do a bit more fieldweakening Watch the nucular Video again I dont know what torp topspeed is on 72v But torp is limited to 18 kw on mx4 I have 19,4 kw with nucular on mx4

[@silvan125]

@@jaxhess i have changed my rear sprocket now to 44T OEM sprocket 62 mph gps on my mx4 with nucular p24f and 72v battery And 16 inch rear wheel i get now topspeed With 19 inch you should get 65 mph The motor have so much torque that a bigger sprocket is Not needed For me With 54t the torque was to much for the trails on higher Power 🙈

[@Tymm_pokh]

hi guys, please tell me, I want to buy a ko moto pro controller for talaria Sting R, if there are pros and cons, please tell me or recommend something better, no money limit

[@Talariaboys]

Don't buy a KO controller, Literally every other option available is better, Torp, EBMX, Nucular are all so much better, you can check out our video's on each.

[@Tymm_pokh]

@@Talariaboys can you tell me the best model?

[@Talariaboys]

It really depends on what you are looking for in a new controller, please shoot us an email at [e-mail] and ask the question and we can go more in detail. Thanks

[@BrennanSilvius-x2n]

yo any update on the triple x build?

[@Talariaboys]

Coming, we made some progress working on it yesterday

[@BrennanSilvius-x2n]

@@Talariaboys sick thx

[@pameladuran2885]

Thank you just ordered mine

[@bonesx13]

Devating whether to go talarias 3x or sting r. FYI, im 5'6, not 6'+ like most of all, you fellas lol. I Have not seen any in person, so was wondering if they are taller than my crf450r or lower? I do prefer more power and upgrade options towards the future.

[@Talariaboys]

The sting r is much smaller than a crf 450, they are more like the size of a 125.

[@bonesx13]

@Talariaboys Ok, sweet. Got my mx4 order and on its way :) I can't wait to start ridding and upgrading

[@swhalstead]

Good choice. I bought the xxx first and then a used mx4. The mx4 is so much better.

[@sstrey174]

Just bout my sting a week ago....guess Im about to spend some more money 😊

[@Talariaboys]

Ha ha you won’t regret it

[@noriebadoneify]

Will this work with talaria mx3?

[@Talariaboys]

Just confirmed with Torp that they have a software updating coming very soon for the controller to work with Mx3 battery and motor, it won't have the same power as the mx4 because the mx3 battery is not as capable but still a nice upgrade. We don't know exactly when the update will release but should be within a couple weeks to a month.

[@relentlesstn]

whens the 72v xxx video coming? that part 1 got me checking the channel everyday 🤣

[@Talariaboys]

Next Video

[@al4407]

Hi Guys another perfect test video, I just hope I didn't make a mistake, because I ordered a nucular after your last controller test, was it a mistake? what do you think which one is better? sorry if it's not perfect english it's a translator german english

[@Talariaboys]

Hey man, you didn't make a mistake, both controllers are very good and each have their benefits, Id definitely still install that Nucular and you will enjoy it!

[@davidvalens3337]

can this be installed on mx3?

[@Talariaboys]

Yes! It works great on it

[@jacobkramersommer4484]

Does it take much of the range?

[@Talariaboys]

The more power you use = the less range you have

[@grundyman26]

Forgive my ignorance; but is this future proof for a 72v battery?

[@grundyman26]

@@fiscustom5893 thank you!

[@Talariaboys]

Yes we have already tried it with a 72

[@tampa_teco1051]

Will it fit the mx3 ?

[@benni16it]

no

[@Talariaboys]

Just confirmed with Torp that they have a software updating coming very soon for the controller to work with Mx3 battery and motor, it won't have the same power as the mx4 because the mx3 battery is not as capable but still a nice upgrade. We don't know exactly when the update will release but should be within a couple weeks to a month.

[@tauruspugh]

Will it work with mx3

[@Talariaboys]

Just confirmed with Torp that they have a software updating coming very soon for the controller to work with Mx3 battery and motor, it won't have the same power as the mx4 because the mx3 battery is not as capable but still a nice upgrade. We don't know exactly when the update will release but should be within a couple weeks to a month.

[@CliffMelerineIV]

TALARIAAAA

[@jahbrake9791]

When we going all out on the XXX?

[@Talariaboys]

Soon

[@Bengy22]

This bike running 11kw and beating a Pro SS has me very curious on the 12kw peak claim Eride makes, Erides claims just don't add up

[@EmotoOregon]

I'm always a little skeptical when a promo code is involved.

[@Bengy22]

@@EmotoOregon I'm more skeptical of Erides claims. Although I'm not a huge fan of how much they are pushing the stock battery, 180A is crazy when in most conditions its only rated for 65A

[@Talariaboys]

The Pro SS has never really been 12kw. It would be a lot faster if it was, The Torp is only really peaking at 11 and not holding it so if the Pro SS was really 12 or even 11 it would be faster.

[@Talariaboys]

What do you think happens when we say go buy a product because we make a little cash and everyone ends up hating the product? We lose subs, viewers, and our reputation, its not worth lying lol. We don't ever change or adapt our opinion of a product because we have an affiliate link.

[@bronyx_dan]

Wouldn't it be better to buy the torp 1000? It would future proof your talaria so when a better motor and battery is installed it will be more capable than the torp 500.

[@Talariaboys]

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[@Talariaboys]

we would rather have the x9000 over the torp for high power

[@waynewigger9904]

Thought NUCULAR was the top boy 2 weeks ago ?. Time for our channel to start waffling and get some free stuff to test

[@Talariaboys]

It was... Sometimes thats what happens when something new comes out.

[@silvan125]

I put today the 44t oem sprocket on my mx4 with 72v and nucular controller Get now 62 mph topspeed I have 54 t sprocket befor but the mx4 Motor have enough torque So you dont need a bigger sprocket With 54t sprocket i dont get the torque to the ground Now with 44t it is way better More control over the Power (19,4 kw ) and more topspeed For me sweet Spot

[@salami99]

regen button is like the e Clutch lever the bigger bikes are getting. It's like a clutch really cool future.

[@hectorflores4204]

Can you use on talariaxxx?

[@Talariaboys]

Not currently

[@longrove5710]

Perfect!

[@robertmccaleb1400]

Well I don’t understand why M2s sold me a 750 ht sport which is a 40 mile an hour bike with legs pumping in 2019 and the new model I have 2021 is wrong the fork and the ergonomics it’s taller and shorter why ruin a good thing

[@armyca]

Now the question... Nucular or Torp for Talaria mx4 with stock battery...

[@Talariaboys]

Our current opinion is that the Nucular throttle feels slightly crisper and smooth, but the torp is better at every single other thing, install, setup, tuning, speed, reliability, warranty/customer support, not tripping the battery bms, and still has an amazing feeling throttle.

[@armyca]

@@Talariaboys thanks!

[@clintroberts1]

@@Talariaboys Reliability seems funny to state as both just came out. Why didn't you test the Nucular and Torp side by side with stock battery? That seems to be the most desired opinion. Plus the Nucular is cheaper and you can tune down the Nucular not to cut out the BMS and it still shows 11kw. I'd think if the Nucular had better throttle and is $300 cheaper and detuned so it doesnt cut out then it is the no brainer here. Yeah you dont get blue tooth but you get three modes. Any thoughts to this? Can you do a test between the two and give a back to back opinion. You owe us this, especially those who just bought the Nucular a few weeks ago. haha In addition when I emailed with Nucular and stated I may wait for the Torp they responded with..."Torp does not have proper cooling, their controller is completely covered with a plastic plate and is not blown by airflow. It will simply overheat on a long climb."

[@benni16it]

@@clintroberts1 how many times did you real aabout tc500 overheating... its out for so many years on other bikes. what did you expect nucular to answer you? yes of course buy the torp its the better product.. who gonna do that. it was well known that the tc500 will release soon, if someone couldnt wait its not their fault i guess. and just because there is another option out now i doesnt make the old controllers bad or anything.. and what i see as a good point for the torp is the "street legal mode" switch. that one depends of course on your location.. as american you wont care, but in europe people bikes are limited to 45km/h to be legal. the cop might be bright enoug to be able to switch from eco to sport if you just limit in that one but if you can set the bike to the "legal" settings without him knowing how to turn it off again...

[@clintroberts1]

@@benni16it Didnt reel ever about it overheating. I just posted what Nucular said. I have no idea. I had no idea the Torp was for sure was coming out at any point in the future or near future. I had heard they had one for Surron but no guarantee. I'm not disappointed with my purchase. Nucular is a bargain. I was just posing questions to Talaria Boys to address as I like to educate myself and point out maybe some points why their title may not have been accurate based on their own statements. The Nucular appears to be the best value as the performance seems to be imperceptible between the two ( but would have loved a direct comparison). Yeah legal doesnt matter to me. If I stop for a cop he does whatever he wants to do based on his interpretation of the law and how I was probably riding. I mostly ride on private property any way.

[@sketchy9219]

Is it feels even stronger than the Nucular Controller ?!!

[@Talariaboys]

It feels very comparable but doesn't have all the battery bms tripping.

[@sketchy9219]

@@Talariaboys thank you for answering 🙏🏻 so wich one you suggested the most for a stock MX4 ?? Thank you again !

[@hjfuyjgkj]

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