The Greatest Unsolved Mystery in Television History (SOLVED)

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Max Derrat

Max Derrat

Күн бұрын

TV shows often introduce mysteries that don't get resolved, and this can be for a variety of reasons. Thankfully, these mysteries don't tend to ruin the show as a whole. That said, there is one show that TV fandom tends to point to as the prime offender when it comes to introducing mysteries and not giving them explicit answers. That is LOST. In its defense, most of the mysteries of LOST do have answers, but they are answers you have to intuit for yourself. Today, I want to focus in one what I believe is not just LOST's biggest mystery, but what might be the greatest mystery in the history of the television medium.
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SPOILERS FOR EPISODE 15 OF SEASON 6:
I am of the belief that the light that sits at the heart of the island is the divine force of fate that is orchestrating everybody's life. It is why Locke says that the "island brought them there" in the Season 1 Finale. That is where the electromagnetic fluctuations come from. The DHARMA Initiative are manipulating the electromagnetism coming from the light to alter their fate.

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@morgantrias3103
@morgantrias3103 Жыл бұрын
The fact Hurley's bad luck stopped once he was on the island always made a sort of cosmic sense but this really explains it.
@angrydrunkengerman2819
@angrydrunkengerman2819 Жыл бұрын
This also follows the theory that we all have a divine fate with a purpose. The further we get from our intended path (order) the less we are guided by purpose or fate and the more negative the outcomes (disorder.) If there is a divine being who has a plan, and we all have a part to play to ensure a positive outcome for everyone, the further we get from that plan and that order the more disorderly and negative the outcomes of our actions. Think of it like planting seeds. If you plant seeds in the optimal setting in an orderly and properly spaced fashion all the plants grow to their optimal size. If you don't follow an optimal order to planting the seeds you are more likely to have negative outcomes. What's creepy is you can test this in real life and you will start to see coincidences unfold one after another, after another, after another. Just by being charitable, kind, and friendly to others. That simple. Try it.
@jbear3478
@jbear3478 Жыл бұрын
It only led him to misery. Love Hurley
@jbear3478
@jbear3478 Жыл бұрын
It= his lottery win
@winningsince1992
@winningsince1992 Жыл бұрын
I never thought of it as Hurleys bad luck. More an extention of his good luck. Everything that happened was good for him just bad for those around him.
@morgantrias3103
@morgantrias3103 Жыл бұрын
@@winningsince1992 well it could be argued to be good luck for Hurley, but only if you consider money to be the only important thing. Which he does not.
@leperface
@leperface Жыл бұрын
Lost was really fun when it aired. Talking with everyone at work about the previous episode, and their theories about what was going to happen was great. I really enjoyed seeing their eyes light up with excitement.
@HeatherHolt
@HeatherHolt Жыл бұрын
There was something exciting about having to wait a week between episode instead of binging back to back. It’s a reason I love severance on Apple TV. In between episodes I’m all over Reddit and YT with others trying to come up with ideas of what’s happening next week.
@gokux75
@gokux75 Жыл бұрын
I remember going to the lost wiki during computer class and reading the pages trying to find clues. After each episode I would run to the Lost Myspace community and talk about the show. My family watched the show too, but it was great to talk about with so many people online. A few years ago I showed my girlfriend Lost for the first time and she loved it, but I constantly reminded her that watching this show while it aired and having to wait a week for a new episode or months for a new season was part of the experience.
@thestrangechannelofjeff7426
@thestrangechannelofjeff7426 Жыл бұрын
It makes me miss the 2000's
@RaymondMason64
@RaymondMason64 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see you talking more about lost and it's misteries. Considering how you explore meaningful themes, it's perfect for the channel.
@HyperDefective
@HyperDefective Жыл бұрын
I have never seen LOST. Until now, all I knew about it is that it was a show about a bunch of people stranded on an island, and it had a really divisive ending. This video made me realize that it's apparently much more than that, and that I should probably check it out lol
@tiki_trash
@tiki_trash Жыл бұрын
@@HyperDefective If you like mysteries and sci-fi you really should check out the series. I got hooked on it, that's for sure. It's one of the greatest TV series ever, in my opinion even better than the X-Files and I really like the X-Files. The acting and drama is fantastic. The ending really pissed me off though.
@HyperDefective
@HyperDefective Жыл бұрын
@@tiki_trash Yeah honestly it sounds right up my alley. And X-Files is amazing, so I know I can trust your opinion lol
@kuhpunkt
@kuhpunkt Жыл бұрын
@@tiki_trash Why did it piss you off?
@wasdwasdedsf
@wasdwasdedsf Жыл бұрын
@@kuhpunkt really philosophical, flimsy, unconclusive and people generally didnt find or werent satisfied with the answers other than that my favourite show of all time, the wonderful mysteries were so fascinating to me
@HeatherHolt
@HeatherHolt Жыл бұрын
I watched Lost on dvd from Blockbuster while laying in a hospital bed in my living room and wheeling myself around in a wheelchair due to a wreck where I shattered my pelvis. For 6 months I was like that. And watching Lost was my relief from the pain, boredom, anxiety, depression, frustration. It holds a special place in my heart. Would love a deep dive! The constant is peak television. As was The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham.
@ShadowFireXX
@ShadowFireXX Жыл бұрын
The Constant wins best episode. John's cyclical journey of meaning and being 'special' felt like a (Shakespearian?) tragedy to me. What did you feel?
@TheJatonEffect
@TheJatonEffect Жыл бұрын
I would absolutely love more deep dives on LOST. It's rare to see them these days and I don't want this show to die out.
@kuhpunkt
@kuhpunkt Жыл бұрын
I did a deep dive on the creation of the show. It's on my channel if you're interested.
@antigrav6004
@antigrav6004 Жыл бұрын
I first watched lost on DVD and I loved it right up until that final episode that kinda soured me on the whole thing. It felt like we opened the box and inside was a big foam question mark that popped out without a real explanation.
@kuhpunkt
@kuhpunkt Жыл бұрын
@@antigrav6004 What's the problem with the final episode?
@TheJatonEffect
@TheJatonEffect Жыл бұрын
I didn't get that vibe at all and never really understood the hate it got. I can't imagine it ending any differently. The only thing that upset me was when characters started dying in S6 (particularly Sayid and the Kwons) I felt like it was fine because they were still alive in this alternate universe so the emotional weight of their deaths didn't actually hit me.
@kattnap92
@kattnap92 Жыл бұрын
I agree!
@prestonrutherford873
@prestonrutherford873 Жыл бұрын
I always thought the numbers representing a kind of cosmic interconnected determinism was obvious to anyone paying attention. I think a good chunk of the audience got too caught up in waiting for specifc scenes to spoonfeed answers, despite it being clear the writers were more concerned with making the story *dramatically* satisfying, rather than *logistically* so. Awesome video, would be interested in more Lost analyses.
@choriz0213
@choriz0213 Жыл бұрын
Wadiyatalkinabeet
@jbear3478
@jbear3478 Жыл бұрын
The numbers are the ultimate candidates at the end, right? Kate, Jack, Sawyer, Jin (i think it's Jin because he's taken off the plane and Sun isn't, also Sun becomes a mother which made Kate lose her candidacy initially), Hugo, who am I missing
@andrewbevan3933
@andrewbevan3933 Жыл бұрын
My wife and I never got cable TV and literally hadn’t watched any TV shows for about 20 years until getting Netflix. The first show we watched was Lost, and quickly learned what “binge watching” meant. We just couldn’t stop. We’ve watched a lot of good shows since, but Lost set the standard for sheer addictiveness that is as yet unmatched.
@tonnentonie2767
@tonnentonie2767 Жыл бұрын
Goddamn, I just looked on Netflix if they have the show but of course not.
@BigballsTerrence
@BigballsTerrence Жыл бұрын
​@@tonnentonie2767Torrents man. They're free tok
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning Жыл бұрын
John Locke gets a lot of unwarranted hate. Sawyer was a better leader than Jack quite often. And I still miss Charlie.
@maxderrat
@maxderrat Жыл бұрын
Sawyer had a really fascinating redemption arc throughout the series. Going from the untameable outlaw to becoming a loving and supportive husband of Juliette... usually giving into his darker side but constantly trying to be better. And yeah, Charlie's death was the one that hit me the most on the show.
@veretos7
@veretos7 Жыл бұрын
Back when I watched the series I started to get the impression that John Locke was actually the main character. And then later in school I found out that John Locke was actually a very influential philosopher in the 1600s and a lot of the shows themes revolve around his ideas
@video-luver769
@video-luver769 Жыл бұрын
"Not Penny's Boat."
@HeatherHolt
@HeatherHolt Жыл бұрын
Loche was like the Mulder of the island. Jack was a bully and annoying. Sawyer had more empathy and heart than jack. I never liked Kate tho. I think my favorite character besides loche was Desmond at the end of the day lol
@soccerandtrack10
@soccerandtrack10 Жыл бұрын
@@HeatherHolt "the rest up to you..." assasins creed 2.
@ExtraBulla
@ExtraBulla Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: If you add the numbers together, they add up to 108...as in "enter the numbers every 108 seconds".
@LuisHernandez-hq6ki
@LuisHernandez-hq6ki 4 ай бұрын
Fun fact: there are 108 chakras . Check it out, definitely the writers of the serie took some inspiration on that.
@gregsaunders2387
@gregsaunders2387 3 ай бұрын
Thought it was 108 minutes
@ExtraBulla
@ExtraBulla 3 ай бұрын
@@gregsaunders2387 You're right.
@marcuscooper7809
@marcuscooper7809 Ай бұрын
I never. Watched. Lost. 108 is the operating frequency generating the cyma-graphic symbol of The eye of the Moon Inside the 'coffin' [wave guide] hidden inside [now i link] rhymes with.. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fmrSfYaDiLxniassi=FJs2QupvemCZ59Mc Aww. Mc. I do. ***** *** of the Largest Biggest Massive. On earth. So go on. Put on an iron shirt.. Thought,. He.
@meerkat_ultra
@meerkat_ultra Жыл бұрын
Phenomenal work. I loved LOST. It was the last true show my family watched together every episode and call each other to talk about it. Very special. Please talk more about it. You’re already one of my favorites who inspires me, so I would love to hear more on LOST.
@makeshift_battlefield_music
@makeshift_battlefield_music Жыл бұрын
This is awesome Max! I am so psyched that you're a fan of LOST. It was an important part of my teenage years watching it with my dad. Ive seen the series 6 times in my life and I can't say that about any other show. You did some great work here, you've delivered an informed, constructive and transforming perspective on my favorite show, and I've enjoyed your work for a good while now, and that is pretty cool.
@davivignola5895
@davivignola5895 Жыл бұрын
Oh goddamn it, those numbers are scarred in my mind. I tried for weeks to figure them out (I have a math degree), and I was working patterns, etc... then in an interview, Abrams admitted they just made them up semi randomly.
@diogeneslantern18
@diogeneslantern18 Жыл бұрын
I did too. I became obsessed with them for a while!
@jbear3478
@jbear3478 Жыл бұрын
Aren't they also the Fibonacci sequence?
@charleswidmore5458
@charleswidmore5458 Жыл бұрын
the numbers made him say that, and don't try to link them to adinkras equations or cymatic images of sacred sounds until you're ready.
@pyrex-fission
@pyrex-fission Жыл бұрын
Hearing the words "Season 2 Episode 22" is INSANE to me now. I can't believe shows used to follow those ridiculous episode numbers. Can you imagine now a show like The White Lotus having 24 Episodes? lol
@BigballsTerrence
@BigballsTerrence Жыл бұрын
I don't think there's many shows that aren't like a CSI/ cartoon that have over 12 eps per season. IMO the 20+ eps were perfect for Lost. It's actually the later shorter seasons people don't like as much. If a show has a story to tell I'm all for as many episodes as they need.
@BigballsTerrence
@BigballsTerrence Жыл бұрын
Like Game of Thrones S8 easily could of done with 20+ episodes to actually flesh out the story.
@ankuriboh
@ankuriboh Жыл бұрын
I like LittleKuriboh's answer that he gave in his reviews of Yu-Gi-Oh GX: 4 8 15 16 23 42 is the number of turns it takes to get through a game of Yu-Gi-Oh.
@FLStelth
@FLStelth Жыл бұрын
Lost, lost me. I was initially enthusiastic about it, but slowly realized the writers were making it up as they went. I bailed long before the series ended.
@kuhpunkt
@kuhpunkt Жыл бұрын
How did you realize that? And even if it were true - how would that be relevant?
@ReinersBlauerHoden
@ReinersBlauerHoden 3 ай бұрын
The show clearly wasnt written to the end. They made stuff up from season to season. Started really good ended really bad
@mojonojo3
@mojonojo3 Жыл бұрын
Obligated positive comments about usual excellent insight
@ThornWolf1
@ThornWolf1 Жыл бұрын
Obligatory response in agreement with astute observation for aforementioned insight.
@brogamin179
@brogamin179 Жыл бұрын
Obligatory negative comment claiming your bots and insulting your families.
@austinorlando4326
@austinorlando4326 Жыл бұрын
Dido
@TheNinjaStuff
@TheNinjaStuff Жыл бұрын
​@@austinorlando4326Her tea's gone cold.
@SciontheDark
@SciontheDark Жыл бұрын
I think the main reason we see many repeating themes and numbers is because the series went on longer than the creators had planned. The law of fate led them to reuse what they already had, to stretch out their initial ending.
@jbear3478
@jbear3478 Жыл бұрын
I actually think they did plan all six seasons
@jbear3478
@jbear3478 Жыл бұрын
In fact, the seasons were even shortened due to the writing strike in 2007
@willn4667
@willn4667 Жыл бұрын
You forgot the real biggest mystery: Why doesn't Ross, the largest Friend, simply eat the other five?
@l.a.xbeast8502
@l.a.xbeast8502 14 күн бұрын
Asking the real questions
@OnyxSkiesXIX
@OnyxSkiesXIX Жыл бұрын
Not sure if anyone else has pointed this out, but the numbers add up to 108. As in 108 minutes to reset the computer, 108 days on the island before the Oceanic Six are “rescued.” And 108 is considered a sacred number in Dharmic religions (get it, Dharma).
@renakunisaki
@renakunisaki Жыл бұрын
They're also all prime numbers, except for the ones that aren't 23.
@SuperBeardWill
@SuperBeardWill Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this, those numbers have bugged me almost as much as Hurley for flipping years! Please, I'd love some more info on Walt other than "He's just special"
@nicklafleur7620
@nicklafleur7620 Жыл бұрын
Twin peaks beats lost ten fold in terms of unanswered mysteries
@-pressxtostart-
@-pressxtostart- Жыл бұрын
I guess, but they also ruined the greatest mystery of all, "who killed laura palmer" which prompted david lynch to leave the show
@nicklafleur7620
@nicklafleur7620 Жыл бұрын
@@-pressxtostart- true, but I think they more than made up for that with season 3 with the even bigger mystery "why the hell did Laura palmer scream like that"
@nicklafleur7620
@nicklafleur7620 Жыл бұрын
@@-pressxtostart- also I don't think lynch ever left the show. The show just got canceled due to declining viewership because the mystery got solved
@swankidelic
@swankidelic Жыл бұрын
This is just as unsatisfying as the church of light ending. The writers really couldn't care less about the story they were telling, they really only cared about how it was told. Loved the video, thank you for taking the time to condense this into something manageable. This doesn't "redeem" LOST for me but I'm glad I'm subscribed anyway.
@kuhpunkt
@kuhpunkt Жыл бұрын
Why do you say that they couldn't care less about the story?
@davidrowntree8250
@davidrowntree8250 Жыл бұрын
Given the way Hurley's story ends, your theory makes total sense on the light. Hurley ends up its protector so of course "fate" shows itself to him more aggressively to alter his path to that point
@Aggravated_brain9344
@Aggravated_brain9344 Жыл бұрын
Hey, I am somewhat new to your channel, but I am loving the content. I would love to see more videos on Lost.
@theclawyaww3740
@theclawyaww3740 Жыл бұрын
The first 3 seasons of Lost were peak television. John Locke is one of my favorite characters. The last season wasn't amazing, but it was still decent, and the ending made total sense. I dont get why people were confused.
@jamescarr1265
@jamescarr1265 Жыл бұрын
i agree the last season wasn’t amazing but i completely disagree about seasons 2 and 3 being peak. they had so much filler (middle of season 2, start of season 3) and multiple bad episodes and storylines.
@kingdavid7516
@kingdavid7516 Жыл бұрын
people say the ending was dumb/bad and the apologetic response is usually "it made sense! they're weren't in purgatory the whole time!" - we know that. for me my main criticisms of the ending are: 1) *the flash sideways* you're telling me they all created some kind of post-death pocket dimension and they'd all meet up outside of time - even those that already died - and Hurley an Sawyer are buddy cops? that... that's _good_ writing to you? okay... it was just "oh my godddd, what is happening?! [lost noises]", and when it's explained it was really, really silly. sure, it made sense, if you ignore all the plotholes, but it wasn't good, in my opinion. 2) *not explaining mysteries/lackluster explanations* remember the bird that said Hurley's name? well the writer's didn't. remember the 4-toed statue? well, that was just, like, a statue of a Egyptian god or whatever, not important, lol. oh, you envisioned maybe some type of 4-toed hominem on the island? nah, that'd actually be kinda interesting. just a statue... 3) *over explanations* this might seem in conflict with my previous criticism, and maybe it is, but seasons 1-3 were really good because you didn't know what was happening, the characters didn't. "what IS Dharma??" oh, that was it? okay... this i don't blame as much as the show itself, it's just the nature of mysteries. the more you know about it, the less appealing they become. like a lot of horror movies, sadly
@FaceFister
@FaceFister Жыл бұрын
@@kingdavid7516 Don't you just love mystery box storytelling, where not even the writers know what's going on haha
@kingdavid7516
@kingdavid7516 Жыл бұрын
@@FaceFisteri can be easily duped by the mystery box, but they almost always fumble it. me an the gf watched From season 1 together and it was actually pretty good. immediately, season 2 took a huge nosedive. it's soooo baaaad.
@FoxFireUnlimited
@FoxFireUnlimited Жыл бұрын
People weren't confused. JJ stated outright from season 1 that he PROMISED that the answer to everything was NOT that they were already dead or it was all a dream. He's a PoS liar, and he ruined Star Wars. RabbleRabbleRabbleRabble
@th3d33pc4
@th3d33pc4 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so very much. The deeper meaning of these numbers has haunted me since the shows end, and I never thought I would know any more about them. Excellent work!
@Ickarichi
@Ickarichi Жыл бұрын
I’ve never commented on your videos before max, but the more I hear you the more I feel like I’m looking in a mirror, I suppose that made me rather uncomfortable to begin with but all the questions you tackle speak to me on a level I can barely put into words. I’d love to hear what you have to say on Lost’s other mysteries and see where our analysis’s line up compared to one another.
@damouze
@damouze Жыл бұрын
I love how three of J. J. Abrams shows, Alias, Lost and Fringe all tie into eachother using fragments of this sequence, suggesting a shared universe.
@kuhpunkt
@kuhpunkt Жыл бұрын
It's not a shared universe.
@damouze
@damouze Жыл бұрын
@@kuhpunkt Actually, there are loads of plot elements and motifs suggesting they are in fact in a shared universe. Not just the numbers, but also characters from Lost having cameos in Fringe, the crash of flight 815 being news in Fringe AND Alias, etc.
@kuhpunkt
@kuhpunkt Жыл бұрын
@@damouze Fringe has multiverses and stuff. Lost explicitely doesn't. Both shows even share actors like Lance Reddick - but they don't play the same role. Those aren't cameos by the same figures. When was the crash of Flight 815 ever mentioned on Fringe? And why do you upvote your own comments?
@MichaelJamesActually
@MichaelJamesActually Жыл бұрын
You're forgetting the "man behind the curtain" aspect of the show. The numbers were not connected to any mystical behavior. Jacob, as quoted in the show, would nudge people towards the ways that would lead them to the island. You see him constantly interacting with the candidates off-island. For hurley, he was acting as man behind the curtain, doing all the things that would make him feel like he was jinxed. I felt that the show was explicit about it in the 6th season.
@maxderrat
@maxderrat Жыл бұрын
True. He was operating on behalf of the light and I didn't mention that... but like the whole "light" thing, I kept it out of the video and relegated my comments on it to the description box to not inject too many spoilers into the video.
@xIQ188x
@xIQ188x Жыл бұрын
It wasn’t mystical behavior, Jacob just made a meteor hit that restaurant to fuck with Hurley
@MichaelJamesActually
@MichaelJamesActually Жыл бұрын
@@xIQ188x there is that
@mauriciofontes
@mauriciofontes Жыл бұрын
But we could argue that Jacob was nothing but an agent of Fate/The Light, realizing its will, but not being the will itself.
@Loreweavver
@Loreweavver Жыл бұрын
Yeah. My favorite part was when he used meteor.
@IdgaradLyracant
@IdgaradLyracant Жыл бұрын
I still hold that LOST is the prequel to Fantasy Island and Hurley and company become the first Roarks using the Island to better people. Ultimately taking it back in time, so far back, people think of it as Atlantis. Then they periodically 'move' the island to serve it's new purpose.
@Lesandira
@Lesandira Жыл бұрын
I really loved LOST back in the day. It had so many great characters - John Locke, Desmond, Charlie, Benjamin Linus and also the mysteries were great. I feel like the final season and the ending were a major let-down and I'm sad that LOST isn't that much a part of pop culture anymore. Great video, as always!
@maxderrat
@maxderrat Жыл бұрын
Yeah. You're not the only person who feels that way. I loved it all the way through, but it's hard to argue against a lot of the critiques, especially of Season 6. And thanks brother.
@theendisthebeginningistheend
@theendisthebeginningistheend Жыл бұрын
@@maxderrat I'm not surprised. You do also like the sequels to The Matrix. Didn't the creators of Lost say back before the series ended that they weren't going to end the series this way?
@kuhpunkt
@kuhpunkt Жыл бұрын
@@theendisthebeginningistheend No, they said they won't end it with "Oh and they were dead all along" and they didn't end it like that.
@HeatherHolt
@HeatherHolt Жыл бұрын
@@kuhpunktnever understood why people think they were dead all along, just bc it shows the set at the end… but for sure everything that happened on the island actually happened. I think it was sweet they all loved each other so much they created a limbo that helped them move on together to whatever happens next. I cried at the end NGL
@Sandux930
@Sandux930 Жыл бұрын
basically what happened to game of thrones but earlier. Incredibly impractical tv series that lost relevancy after their finale
@ChronoTactIX
@ChronoTactIX Жыл бұрын
Great video. The addition of the Mass Effect music added a perfect combination of nostalgia and intrigue.
@shmallowlol
@shmallowlol Жыл бұрын
As someone who hasn't seen lost, this has inspired me to watch the show, but I'd love it especially if you could dive more into it.
@gokux75
@gokux75 Жыл бұрын
Do it. You won't be disappointed.
@-pressxtostart-
@-pressxtostart- Жыл бұрын
Well please watch first
@diogeneslantern18
@diogeneslantern18 Жыл бұрын
It's such a mindfuck. You get a different sense of obsession with it - like it sucks you in. It has this "offish" vibe to it, like those low frequency signals that make you feel uncomfortable, but it beguiles you at the same time.
@adamcarlson4922
@adamcarlson4922 Жыл бұрын
More Lost content please! I’m also a fan of the show, having watched through it all multiple times, and I was in the 90% that had no idea the answers to the numbers were ever even out there. So thank you very much for this video.
@SegeMarl
@SegeMarl Жыл бұрын
The luck in service of fate idea is a pretty heavy theme of the character Teela Brown from Larry Niven's ring world series of books. Without spoiling too much, an alien race was trying to breed humanity for luck, and she was born from three generations of birth lottery winners. If you haven't read ringworld I would highly recommend giving it a try at some point, there are certainly some deeply profound and philosophical things to bite into in what is otherwise a fun sci-fi tetralogy
@samdoehart1333
@samdoehart1333 Жыл бұрын
I'd really love to see more dives into the mysteries of Lost. My mom loved the show when I was growing up but it always came on right around my bedtime so I couldn't ever see much of it. I'd love to find out more about it!
@VersusArdua
@VersusArdua Жыл бұрын
Lost's smoke monster was one of the scariest antagonists in any TV show imo, at least before its origin was revealed as the man in black and its presence changed from a mysterious unstoppable force of nature to just Jacob's satanic brother lol Honestly, the sounds the monster would make when it got close still give me a serious chill down my spine to the point where I'm on edge when I hear it on the show.
@AI-mg3hy
@AI-mg3hy Жыл бұрын
Yeah dude I'm here for all of that if you are going to go for it. This is my favorite show too. It was my favorite when it aired and then in 2020 it pretty much cemented itself as an all-time classic for me. My mom was dying, not of covid but of some bastard of a cancer in her heart and lungs. It's weird how things work out, but because of covid I wasn't working and could be with her every day to take care of her. My parents were living a couple hours away at that point so I would bring my 12 year old with me to stay a few days every week so he could have as much time with her as he could get before she was gone. I would bring dvds for us to watch and I have every season of LOST so I thought it would be a good time to introduce the kid to it. He loved it, which made me a seriously happy dad, and it helped us talk about stuff I didn't really know how to start conversations about. Like how good and evil aren't really black and white. Everyone has the capability for both and it's never too late to do good even if we've done things that make us feel like we don't have any good in us. And the importance of forgiveness to others and most of all to ourselves. I think we finished the series about a week before she passed, and I really believe it helped us be in a better mindset to handle it when it happened.
@region9159
@region9159 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this, Im sorry about what happened to your mother. Cancer is a horrible thing. . My son will be 12 in October. I have tried a few times to get him to watch it but he doesnt seem interested. Maybe as he matures he will catch on.
@wasdwasdedsf
@wasdwasdedsf Жыл бұрын
yes, thanks for sharing. take care
@SkarrGaming
@SkarrGaming Жыл бұрын
Yes to more Lost videos. Loved it back in the day and I'm seriously overdue a full rewatch of the whole series.
@JMD314
@JMD314 Жыл бұрын
Something I feel a lot of people who watched LOST failed to understand is that the entire show was basically a love letter to the people who paid THIS much attention. It is not something you just binge watch once or watch casually. You have to REALLY pay attention to it, do research, theorize, talk to other fans about it, etc. to understand what is happening. If that’s not your style, that’s fine, but just admit it wasn’t for you instead of claiming they didn’t answer things.. because they did answer most questions, they just didn’t spoon feed it to you.
@Ar1AnX1x
@Ar1AnX1x Жыл бұрын
watching Lost was so weird it would just go nowhere all the time but since I was new to Series I didn't have much expectations and just watched it go nowhere
@chriscross7278
@chriscross7278 Жыл бұрын
I'd say the greatest mystrery in Television was Twin Peaks Season 3.
@JoelGlines
@JoelGlines Жыл бұрын
Love your content as always Max and yes, more lost videos would be amazing.
@FoxFireUnlimited
@FoxFireUnlimited Жыл бұрын
First two seasons of Lost are amazing. Everything else is stockholm syndrome to JJ's narcissism and abuse.
@maxderrat
@maxderrat Жыл бұрын
Abuse? I didn't know about this. Is that true?
@kuhpunkt
@kuhpunkt Жыл бұрын
JJ hardly had anything to do with the show...
@Gigamex2
@Gigamex2 Жыл бұрын
This is probably a stretch but Leonard saying Hurley opened the "box" could be a reference to when Ben says he has a "box" he can open with anything he wants inside. Ben's "box" is also one of the mysteries the show never revisits.
@kuhpunkt
@kuhpunkt Жыл бұрын
Never revisited? What's there to revisit? There is no box. He tried to manipulate Locke.
@Gigamex2
@Gigamex2 Жыл бұрын
​@@kuhpunktYeah, you're probably right. It's been a while since I've seen the show so I don't remember the episode too well. It's probably just a recurring theme I didn't pick up on at the time.
@Teflora
@Teflora Жыл бұрын
I love lost and i love this format! I remember seeing a video years ago that explained EVERY mystery of lost, bit it was only text with low quality. Having those answers in a format like this would be amazing!
@ooPINHEAD
@ooPINHEAD Жыл бұрын
To this day, there's never been another experience like watching Lost, as it was being released. So many blogs and forums... We'd go hours, days, trying to extract every last detail, sometimes frame by frame. To me, that (small, in retrospective) hiatus they had on season 3, between episodes 6 and 7, was the most memorable in terms of forum discussions and theories. And here we are. Nearly 20 years later and still debating and theorizing about the themes that the show brought forth. Not the best show ever, sure. But absolutely the most unique experience!
@-pressxtostart-
@-pressxtostart- Жыл бұрын
If you havent, please watch Twin Peaks, lost was hugely inspired by the show 😊
@morgantrias3103
@morgantrias3103 Жыл бұрын
I've seen Lost over 11 times and I even watched Nightmind's video on the ARG and I had NO IDEA about any of this.
@shsrpr
@shsrpr Жыл бұрын
They answered the question of where the numbers came from I don't know how many times on the show. And each time they did, people were like, "yeah, but where did they come from before that?" And then the writers would go back further. Where'd they come from? Hurley heard them from Leonard. Before that? The French lady heard them on the radio tower message and wrote them on her map. Before that? The hatch code. Before that? The Valenzetti Equation. Before that infinity? Jacob wrote them on a wall. Before that? They were on a lighthouse that pointed at people in their houses far away. Before that? I dunno, the Romans? Egyptians? And people are still apparently wondering "yeah, but where did they come from before that?"
@BlazeMakesGames
@BlazeMakesGames Жыл бұрын
The problem is that none of those answers in the show were actually a meaningful answer. They just kept pushing the answer down the road without ever actually explaining why the numbers are the way they are and can seemingly have such an effect on the world. Just saying “oh he heard it from them, who heard it from her, who heard them from…” isn’t a satisfying conclusion, which is ultimately why the show as a whole was so disappointing for so many people
@charleswidmore5458
@charleswidmore5458 Жыл бұрын
the numbers have been around long before us and will be here long after we are gone. you can wonder about them but do not get too deep into them. if you notice to much, and they notice you notice too much, things could escalate.
@charleswidmore5458
@charleswidmore5458 Жыл бұрын
and don't try to link them to the adinkras equations or cymatic images of sacred sounds until you're ready.
@Hank19999
@Hank19999 Жыл бұрын
always a treat to see a new video Max, thank you!
@WobblesandBean
@WobblesandBean Жыл бұрын
Yeah, things weren't explained because they had no explanations. They were winging it. And it shows. The ARG was made to try and sloppily tie everything together after the fact. It was launched after the third season had already been wrapped, and was an attempt by JJ to answer things he failed to do. Also, one shouldn't have to jump through hoops to get answers from a mystery driven story. If it wasn't in the show itself, then that's a failure on the creator's part.
@ricardomiles2957
@ricardomiles2957 Жыл бұрын
yeah, S6 defenders fail or purposely hide the fact what the Show was selling out to be. The invested on that, on the hunger for answers, they pretty much spent the whole airing proclaiming everything would be tied in and explained. S5 was a little weird, had some missed opportunities and short comings but S6 is a big backstab at the viewer's created dressed up on a very on the nose tear jerker to hide the clear signs of incompetence handling the show
@Kenb3d1
@Kenb3d1 Жыл бұрын
This guy gets it.
@Starlightean
@Starlightean Жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I was going to say. Viewers shouldn't have to resort to outside sources to understand one medium's contained story or elements. It's the same when people say a movie left them confused, and others answer by saying "You have to read the book to get it!". That's not how storytelling works. However it did feel like the creators didn't have the answers themselves anyway. That's not how storytelling should work either.
@ricardomiles2957
@ricardomiles2957 Жыл бұрын
@@Starlightean The "expanded media" was in part what made the show boom, the mystery box concept was new, there was a guy who dropped work just to study Lost and make theories.
@Choekaas
@Choekaas Жыл бұрын
Stop making up things. JJ Abrams didn't create the ARG. He left Lost after the Pilot. The ARG was created by Javier Grillo-Marxuach amongst others. And it was created in May 2006, during the last episodes of season 2. They never introduced a mystery unless they knew what it was going to be.
@krs4976
@krs4976 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this. I was a big fan of Lost when it was initially released and watch it every couple of years and had absolutely no idea upon the true meaning of the numbers
@fripptricky5099
@fripptricky5099 Жыл бұрын
I maintain to this day that season 2 of Lost is the best season of any tv show ever.
@rodan9773
@rodan9773 Жыл бұрын
Season 1 of Heroes is up there for me.
@jamescarr1265
@jamescarr1265 Жыл бұрын
i believe season 2 is the weakest season of Lost due to the wack amount of filler in the middle and that awful Charlie episode.
@fripptricky5099
@fripptricky5099 Жыл бұрын
@@jamescarr1265 Season 3 was the one that I felt was weakest, personally. The Sawyer/Jack/Kate love triangle got old FAAAAAST
@Ar1AnX1x
@Ar1AnX1x Жыл бұрын
it can't compete with the high level writing of pimp my ride
@jamescarr1265
@jamescarr1265 Жыл бұрын
@@fripptricky5099 season 3 is for sure one of the weaker ones, the first half is such a mixed bag but the second half is incredible
@MilesHadley
@MilesHadley Жыл бұрын
The mystery of the numbers has been hanging over me ever since I started watching the show back when it first aired. Thank you, Max, for giving me the satisfying conclusion I was never aware of this whole time despite being a rather big LOST fan and even being partially aware of The Lost Experience.
@sikViduser
@sikViduser Жыл бұрын
God lost was the most overrated show made by a bunch of fools who didn't know what they were doing.
@maxderrat
@maxderrat Жыл бұрын
I disagree, but there are a decent number of people who share your opinion and they have arguments to draw from. I just find myself disagreeing with enough of them.
@ricardomiles2957
@ricardomiles2957 Жыл бұрын
you are right that the people behind them show didn't know what they were doing, plus actively lying about it and exploiting the hype but no one can disregard what Lost represented in viewer engagement and interactivity. There simply wasn't anything like before and i don't think there's anything like it now, like yeah people like to theorize and discuss and there are countless mystery like shows but never like Lost was. It's somewhat like the difference between people who waited a decade to see Thanos and waiting for every movie, trying to piece everything together and theorize based on trailers and leaks and people who now will pop up Disney+ and watch Iron man 1 to Avengers End Game in one week or two
@kuhpunkt
@kuhpunkt Жыл бұрын
@@ricardomiles2957 No, he is not right.
@Jacksongirard
@Jacksongirard Жыл бұрын
LOST deep dives are what I want as much as some friggen answers! Dude, this is not timely at all but im here for it lol
@gamervet4760
@gamervet4760 Жыл бұрын
I don't get the hub bub about this show. It was just bad television to me.
@ricardomiles2957
@ricardomiles2957 Жыл бұрын
It's quite simple. It was probably the first tv show to engage with the public and more specially online. The show's plot was basically a giant puzzle, There was bunch of official ARGs made with varied levels that fermented the interactivity and engagement from the public. The show itself on a tecnical and writting level is pretty standard but everything around it created a tight cycle of engagement and interactivity
@gamervet4760
@gamervet4760 Жыл бұрын
@ricardomiles2957 Quite simple? The show had many plot holes and subplots that were just dropped. Maybe I missed out on the interactivity, but the show couldn't stand on its own. Let alone entertain me.
@ricardomiles2957
@ricardomiles2957 Жыл бұрын
@@gamervet4760 That's pretty much it. Now with the show finished anyone can easily see the people behind the show were incompetent liars but when it was airing, it was gradual, the show was sold as having answers to all it's mysteries would be solved and that everything was tied in since S1 and it to some degree... it was like that, mysteries and plot points being introduced and only being closed half a season later, drop feed pieces of a puzzle that by all measures seemed to lead to somewhere and to be planned. Which is why the ending is so hated, there it became it obvious there wasn't a plan and they hadn't the slighstest idea how to end the show, worse they never thought about it and were completely out of touch with their audience
@kuhpunkt
@kuhpunkt Жыл бұрын
@@gamervet4760 Name the plot holes.
@gamervet4760
@gamervet4760 Жыл бұрын
@@kuhpunkt How about the ending? Ya douche.
@jerm5466
@jerm5466 Жыл бұрын
0:12 your videos don’t normally make me laugh but this was hilarious
@samwheller
@samwheller Жыл бұрын
Definitely want to hear your takes on Lost! I Love your breakdowns. The breadth of your knowledge fills in gaps that most theorists don't don't even realize are there. Thank you.
@PinchyTheKittyGirl
@PinchyTheKittyGirl Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this! I would personally love if you went over the other "LOST" mysteries.
@sandrafaith
@sandrafaith Жыл бұрын
I was HUGE into Lost at this time, a giant internet nerd since Usenet days, and _still_ somehow did not know about this associated ARG, either as it was happening or up until now. Thanks for the video! Off to watch the Inside a Mind video...
@FlexxibleFree
@FlexxibleFree Жыл бұрын
I was too young and it was impossible to watch a show that aired after 11pm on tv, so I only somewhat completely remember first season. No one can deny how cool it was then
@Vrlad
@Vrlad Жыл бұрын
This content is absolutely excellent! Lets see more lost!
@Davitron_87
@Davitron_87 Жыл бұрын
More videos on Lost please. It was the first show I got truly invested in. Still one of my all time favourites.
@Incomudro1963
@Incomudro1963 6 ай бұрын
Excellent. I'm re watching Lost right now, coming to the conclusion of season one. This is the best and clearest (some people get overly wordy and deep) summation of what the numbers mean.
@woefulmelancholy
@woefulmelancholy Жыл бұрын
Great video, definitely want a deeper dive into this super dynamic show 😀
@ValenteOchoaJr
@ValenteOchoaJr Жыл бұрын
Great video! I’d love to see more videos about one of my FAVORITE shows of all time LOST!
@altairfaltore7261
@altairfaltore7261 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for share this with us
@corvonegro909
@corvonegro909 Жыл бұрын
Time to send this to a bunch of people and blow their minds as well. Amazing. I'd like to see more about this series if you're willing.
@danteduran
@danteduran Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah! I hope for an entire series of videos of you explaining my favorite tv show of all time!!! 😻
@seymourtoa
@seymourtoa Жыл бұрын
Excellent excellent excellent video my man! Love the details and your presentation!
@Luiscbb
@Luiscbb Жыл бұрын
Great video, I would love to watch more. Also the bloopers for LOST were hilarious.
@Pensive_Scarlet
@Pensive_Scarlet Жыл бұрын
I think this show is something that is only going to be truly appreciate with time and discourse, so, for reasons I'll avoid going into for now, I'd really appreciate if you continued to be a part of that discourse.
@gokux75
@gokux75 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I am a huge Lost fan but never knew this. I never participated in the Lost experience directly but I indirectly experienced it through the Lost Myspace community. I definitely want to see more Lost video's from you.
@brood5184
@brood5184 Жыл бұрын
How have I never heard about this??? I've ALWAYS wondered what the numbers were. Would love more videos like this!
@angrazero8296
@angrazero8296 Жыл бұрын
MORE! MAKE MORE! I never heard of this show and I'm interested!
@aldoeljardinero
@aldoeljardinero Жыл бұрын
I haven't seen Lost but I was hooked with this video, great job as per usual Max
@mundanestuff
@mundanestuff Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the engagement they drove, even it was for a small percent of their audience. They went above and beyond, for sure.
@damienmacrae
@damienmacrae Жыл бұрын
Wow, this is one hell of a deep dive and I am so grateful that you made this video explaining this. Thank you from Sydney, Down Under (where the flight started!). I think you're right on the mark. Free will vs fate is one of those deeply important questions that could justify the narrative in the series and justify the expense of making the series. I and many fans annoyed by the ending would be grateful if you could expand this theory to all the other mysteries.
@kuhpunkt
@kuhpunkt Жыл бұрын
Why are you annoyed by the ending?
@mendelevium2768
@mendelevium2768 Жыл бұрын
Man I love this channel so much, thanks for giving us new Lost content even after all these years
@kuhpunkt
@kuhpunkt Жыл бұрын
I got some Lost content on my channel if you're interested in the creation of the show.
@tyler1234321
@tyler1234321 Жыл бұрын
Great analysis here man!
@catch-uppackets2664
@catch-uppackets2664 Жыл бұрын
Best LOST analysis I've ever seen. If there's more, I want to watch it. If there isn't, please make more.
@danielmcdonald8637
@danielmcdonald8637 Жыл бұрын
More lost content please ! This was great !
@growupjohnny9374
@growupjohnny9374 Жыл бұрын
I had no idea that I needed this information today. Thank you random video.
@SurinaSlackArt
@SurinaSlackArt Жыл бұрын
More LOST content pls, Max. This was so needed
@Norikita51
@Norikita51 Жыл бұрын
I have never been excited about Lost until I saw this video. Looking forward to more mystery breakdowns!
@ophirgonen1772
@ophirgonen1772 Жыл бұрын
Oh wow! Thank you for that! Wasn't aware there was an OFFICIAL answer to those numbers (10% you said?) Would very much like to see other questions get answered
@bobbyedge5833
@bobbyedge5833 Жыл бұрын
I would love to hear more of your takes on the themes in Lost.
@wesleyhunt7599
@wesleyhunt7599 Жыл бұрын
Surprised you didn't mention the sum of the numbers is 108. The number of trials in Buddhism. This is part of the show too.
@mauriciofontes
@mauriciofontes Жыл бұрын
Yes please!!! Do keep on making videos about Lost. Since it aired it has been my favorite TV show, ever. And I don't mean this because of the super fun science fiction layer, or the fascinating mythology the series created...I love it deeply because it is brilliant at telling relatable, human stories of aspects of live that many of us go through. In the journeys of the main characters, the show examines: family issues, relationship between parents and their children (from both perspectives); drug problems; free will vs determinism; running away from your problems; marriage; etc etc.
@ArnoSelhorst
@ArnoSelhorst Жыл бұрын
Oh that was much needed throwback Tuesday!
@balerion302
@balerion302 Жыл бұрын
You have to be brave to say out loud that like Lost, let alone your favorite show. I'm with you, this is my fave tv show ever. I'm glad you decided to talk about it.
@UnrelatedAntonym
@UnrelatedAntonym Жыл бұрын
Great video. Would like to see more analysis on the show.
@shadquirk607
@shadquirk607 Жыл бұрын
Lost is truly one of the only times in history that a mere title has represented more than just the name of the show, but instead also refers to the fans, the story, and the creators themselves.
@kuhpunkt
@kuhpunkt Жыл бұрын
Aaaaaaaaahahahaha, clever! I never heard that one before!
@sinancemunlu
@sinancemunlu Жыл бұрын
Please do the smoke monster or black smoke whatever it is and the other mysteries of the island such as dead people or disappearance of walt etc.
@Augustus_Imperator
@Augustus_Imperator Жыл бұрын
Loving this. Thank you.
@danielmarziali4889
@danielmarziali4889 Жыл бұрын
I have never watched Lost nor did I have any desire to, but I love your analysis videos, Max! Who knows, I might give it a go some day, this is very intriguing stuff! :)
@steelcurtain187
@steelcurtain187 Жыл бұрын
Great video I hadn’t thought about this show in a while. It was so epic at the time
@nickcurrant2254
@nickcurrant2254 Жыл бұрын
I've never even watched Lost, but this was fun to go through. Great video!
@knowduh
@knowduh Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this!!
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