The Greatest YMCA player in NBA history | Alperen Şengün

Is Alperen Sengun any good? How similar is he to NBA MVP Nikola Jokic? This detailed film breakdown & scouting report explores how the Rockets big man impacts the game with his incredible passing, unorthodox scoring moves and unique style of play while examining his defensive future moving forward.
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[@firatparlak7816]

Thank you ❤

[@ismailozozdemir6485]

Thanks dude .

[@turc9808]

Thanks

[@20hkn23]

thank you

[@007supertime]

ALPEREN Sengun Will BE Better than Jokic, he is only 19 ,super HIGH IQ player "TURKISH DELIGHT "

[@gavinstroup9261]

I appreciate how Ben shows bad plays as well as the good. It helps us not overreact to highlight reels

[@lukaslambs5780]

I agree completely! No player is perfect!

[@NewNormalWorldOrder]

Wowie wowie

[@charlesfowler4308]

@@lukaslambs5780 Apart from Boris Diaw of course

[@busterkeaton1001]

it's more of a scouting evaluation, than a fan-based hightlight reel.

[@richardchen9912]

His highlight reel is one of a kind though 😂

[@exiledknight3961]

Sengun = Charmander Sabonis = Charmeleon Jokic = Charizard

[@anthonynorman7545]

Heck yeah!!!

[@clevisbernier8973]

lmao

[@pewpew9193]

The modern versions of Arvydas Sabonis & Bill Walton. The high IQ Centers with Elite playmaking. I love watching those guys play.

[@jagermaster1758]

This is accurate lol

[@metehandivitli4601]

Everybody Loves Charmender bro 😊

[@KleinpeterHank]

The Rockets may be a disaster, but this guy makes them worth watching sometimes.

[@dr.t.5404]

Rockets fan here. The way this organization has treated Jalen Sengun and Bari has been utterly ridiculous. They’ve been doing nothing but setting these young boys up to fail and it hurts my heart to see

[@judoka.]

im just assuming that silas has some dirt on tillman at this point because WHY TF IS HE STILL HERE?!

[@2d540]

@@judoka. Probs for tanking purposes. I think he's gone next season.

[@zoulzopan]

Who's Bari?

[@lakersforever9572]

@@zoulzopan Jabari smith Jr.

[@nodefense]

not really lol, couldve done more with Bari for sure but Sengun gets plenty of opportunities, especially lately. Definitely can utilise them better but this is an extreme overreaction

[@noahkingsley4103]

That behind the back pass to no one had me laughing hard.

[@wongsanti]

Me too! 😆 🤣

[@mda990]

lol looks like a troll enjoying himself in the NBA😂😆

[@smhmyhead9307]

timestamp?

[@lucas_13.]

this whole sequence fucked me up

[@lucas_13.]

@@smhmyhead9307 1:42

[@doktarr]

With Sabonis and Sengun out there, we can see that Jokic is creating a new archetype for how you can succeed on the court.

[@holdencooper5558]

I’d like to think it’s just a gen z bill walton or aryvadas

[@cloudmoore2834]

Sabonis didn’t learn from jokic his dad was the jokic before jokic. Just didn’t have a long career since he came into the nba at such an old age

[@Jabbersac]

@@cloudmoore2834 Absolutely, baby Sabonis is a chip off the old block! Arvydas must be proud.

[@adamyup7086]

@@cloudmoore2834yes but the success of Jokic has lead to guys like Sabonis given the freedom to play like that.

[@Psquared2324]

@@holdencooper5558 I'd also like to add Webber. He was an extremely underrated passer. His name is never mentioned but it should be.

[@BobbyJenko]

Who’s here after the start of the 23-24 season when Sengun has seemingly added a mid-range game and the beginnings of a 3 point shot? Ooooooo boy it’s lookin bright!

[@bonedamage]

I'm still devastated my Spurs picked Primo (how's that going????) over Sengun. He seemed SO Spursian, I don't care that we had Poetl at the time! I'm punching air.

[@shorewall]

Ooo, that would have been a good pick.

[@blbaggdt]

We are devastated too as turkish nba fans. Popovich could make him a real star. He cant reach his true potential with Silas. Thats a shame.

[@Penterror]

@@blbaggdt Its okay, hes a future knick anyway

[@hittkid6312]

Damn that would have been so good specially with Pop having experience coaching skilled bigs

[@alfredogonzalez7250]

I almost punched the TV after they announced Cockua Primo. They messed up big time.

[@eyemunchained8968]

At 6 feet 9 inches he should be a YMCA legend

[@ThinkingBasketball]

You got me with that one

[@abdullahunal8745]

Sorry but whats that YMCA thing

[@dpxxl]

@@abdullahunal8745 Aslında uluslararası bir hayır kurumu ama halka açık ve ücretsiz spor tesisleri inşa ettikleri için direkt tesislere YMCA diyorlar Amerika'da. Bildiğin ücretsiz kapalı spor salonu aslında.

[@hasancosar9781]

He is 6 ft 11 now.

[@alkinceylan]

@@hasancosar9781 Sabonis is 6'11" and Alperen is definately at least an inch shorter actually. To me its 2"

[@behindthearcyt]

this is a elite title ben😭and sengun i think could fully breakout into a all star next szn if the rockets fire silas and get a coach that will use sengun as the offensive hub similar to how the kings use sabonis and the nuggets use jokic

[@paigesmith4963]

I feel like it’s not even silas, it’s the front office that want that. They want green and porter to have the ultimate green light in hopes they progress, while not giving a care about the rest of the team

[@judoka.]

@@paigesmith4963 no they don’t, you clearly don’t pay attention to the team.

[@zoulzopan]

Tanking not done yet obviously

[@paigesmith4963]

@@judoka. no they don’t what? Like are you agreeing with me? Why would agree then say I don’t watch? Of course I watch them. Why would I comment fam.

[@Texasdex84]

I’d love to see it but with KPJ and Green chucking up shots like they do it ain’t never gonna happen

[@miraclemaker1418]

What's interesting is the amount of posters and chasedown blocks this dude has, so he clearly has bounce when he is able to get some stride in, but as you have said what he's lacking severely is his vertical without a run-up and his lateral speed. Great analysis btw, love the vid

[@steveal8264]

Is there way to improve that?

[@miraclemaker1418]

@@steveal8264 to some degree yes. He can becoms a serviceable if not decent defender in time, but I think he will never be able to become an elite defender. Hope he proves me wrong though

[@denizakin5645]

His wingspan also seems short. Jokic is a bad rim protector with similar issues too, but he can hide some things with his long wingspan and quick hands. Also on offense he can then use a couple passing angles that Şengün can't.

[@GoZags43]

@@miraclemaker1418 Yeah it’ll take him getting in ELITE shape physically to ever be neutral on defense I’m afraid. Jokic has started taking his body seriously in the off-season though, so I have a feeling Sengun will too. One year of him being 100% dedicated to perfecting his physique/athleticism would do wonders for his career.

[@t4d0W]

Its funny that the comments are asking how he can become elite on D when maybe at best he's good enough to man a big at the paint or play the drop well. What needs to be elite is the defense at the wings so they can make it harder for perimeter players to come in or provide help. Sengun has the craft to figure out how to defend screens/dropping vs ball handlers but he can't do it all when his wing teammates are just letting the ball handler through like a NYC subway turnstile for free.

[@VladimirElliot]

Stephen Silas needs to be put in prison for prioritizing KPJ and Jalen over him🤦🏾‍♂️less than 30 minutes a night!

[@bagchasingbandit6274]

Lmao Stephan Silas the tank commander😂

[@johnmarkson1998]

what happens if they commit to sengun and build around him and then find out he is useless in the playoffs? they need to build systems around each player they have. not just sengun.

[@dubuwubu2254]

A basketball channel called Andy Hoops actually explained this, said his limited playing time is caused by frequent foul troubles due to his poor defense. But then the Rockets don't play any legit defense whatsoever so it could just be him playing the game of basketball while his teammates don't. I like how he plays, nonetheless.

[@futurehofer1564]

@@johnmarkson1998 KPJ is useless in the playoffs lol

[@dylanlance8704]

@@dubuwubu2254 as a rockets fan that's watched every game these past two seasons, that isn't true. that is what Stephen silas has claimed is the reason for keeping him off the floor but no one on the team plays defense and he actually doesn't foul as much as many of our other players

[@michaelboyles714]

As a rockets fan, this guy is the only reason I watch basketball right now

[@MoonMoon-bj9jr]

As a rockets fan, all the things are on point. He does show some defensive IQ on positioning himself it’s just that even with good positioning, his vertical defense isn’t there. And we also have a coach worse than Dwayne Casey running the offense and defense with no vet installing a winning culture. Even though it looks grim right now, with coaching change and inviting some valuable vets can drastically turn us around!

[@pewpew9193]

He can overcome the lack of verticality. Jokic did it by becoming Elite at playing the P&R & keeping his hands active in the paint. He is never going to do good getting switched onto Luka or Curry, but there isn't a Center in the NBA that is going to be good in that situation.

[@SoloPerICommenti]

@@pewpew9193 elite fot Jokic sounds a stretch

[@t4d0W]

@@pewpew9193 Jokic also has at least 3 inches vertically and via the wingspan over Sengun. So his overall ceiling as an interior defender is flat out better. Him being better at the drop and defending the screen is just icing on the cake. At least with Sengun's footwork getting switched against smaller ball handlers isn't an issue as bigs with poor footwork are the ones who get preyed upon. But he will still need help like anyone else caught in that situation who doesn't have the length/verticality.

[@peacepipe_]

As a Turkish fan of u, i cant tell how good this video feels me right now. I m pretty sure this ll be good moral support for many people in those hard days we live in Turkey. Thank you both Alpi and you, you are the best.

[@maxg8651]

Stay safe friend! I’m seeing footage from Hatay and it makes me so emotional.

[@bryanchandler3486]

Wishing you and your country a good recovery. I'm so so sorry.

[@soprano7088]

@@bryanchandler3486 🙏

[@randygraham926]

Good luck to our Turkish friends!

[@jmgonzales7701]

Would like to go to turkey some day

[@coledorillo6685]

Not to detract from Sengun but its so wholesome seeing the Joker have players that look up and emulate his game.

[@marklindsey4668]

There's something about Euro league style players that I enjoy watching! They love to pass and are good at it

[@thunderb00m]

Kinda what happens when you become back to back mvp

[@Hak616]

This guy can master the post up game perfectly, he's made for it

[@thebokism]

He is one of the most fun player in nba alongside jokic and kyrie

[@SenorAzazel]

I feel like Houston has several hidden gems on their team that they don't really use to their full potential tbh.

[@HailKingCeezer]

Alpi and Tari need to play 30+ mpg every night

[@futurehofer1564]

facts Ja'Sean Tate would THRIVE in a team like Golden State or a contender imo

[@iambarryallen]

Theyre tanking. You dont wanna show teams your hidden gems til after next years draft. If other teams can see they have great young players, they might wanna include them in future deals

[@chrissullivan6572]

Only you and Sengun could make a missed 5 foot hook, a thing of beauty

[@BooksYouHaventRead]

masterful edit with the: "there are real questions about his defense." *Segun turns around shocked* at 7:42

[@toasteranus1611]

As a huge Rockets and Sengun fan, I think you nailed this analysis. When he's used as the offensive hub he looks like one of the best playmakers in the league but when he's made to primarily take plays made for him by other players, he struggles to get going. I can definitely see Alpy adding a 3-ball in the near future to take his offense to the next level, although I'm not sure he'll ever be anything more than an adequate defender. As long as the rockets continue to invest in players like Jabari Smith Jr. and Tari Eason, who could be future all-defensive team selections, he will only have to be a non-liability on the defensive end. Overall, the future looks bright in Houston if Alperen Sengun gets to captain the ship.

[@t4d0W]

That is if he gets to do that. You also need players who can play off that play style. I think the Kings this season is a great example of that where the addition of Huerter allows them to attack defenses with the two man screen game between him and Domas. And everyone else can flow into that action with their wings cutting or even letting Fox playing give and go.

[@beastmry]

This man's nickname should be the Whirling Dervish. That's such a cool name

[@gunerarslan2520]

I m a Turkish guy and i laughed a lot on this one. Cheers dude.

[@eazybennett]

Love the video. Would be interesting to see how Sengun plays defensively in a line-up without two of the worst defensive guards in the league.

[@alkinceylan]

Most people misses this fact.

[@t4d0W]

Don't bother bringing that up as a conversation. Surface level understanding of bigs even from the avid viewers of this great channel think every big prospect should (and has the chance) to be everything everywhere all at once on defense especially against screen games at the perimeter. And the wing players involved are excused for their porous efforts because they are cool one dimensional scorers on the other side.

[@jojoprocess2820]

​@@t4d0W Youre right that bigs often get too much blame for their wings/guards, but alperen is a truly horrific defender who has a loooooong ways to go to not be someone who can be played off the floor in the playoffs, even if he was surrounded by jrue and kawhi

[@Hypergraph]

he is still so young, in learning phase , give him a few years and he'll become much stronger and much better.

[@AJHDC]

"Sengun's passes are outakes from a Jokic highlight reel" - Rob Lowe

[@AnacondaHL]

This might be the first video I've watched from you guys that evoked a legit laugh-out-loud funny response from me, this sequence at 1:26 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@hongkids3814]

Thanks for putting the time and effort into making these videos. Keep up the good work!

[@amarevanhook7453]

1:30 got me crying😭😭😭😭

[@johnjackson1534]

Sengun being a second year player at only 20 years old shows great potential for a future all star in this league. It took Sabonis until year 3/4 to show the stats and potential Sengun is demonstrating in year 2. If the Rockets organization invests in this young squad and bring in a head coach with a more structured approach we could see some real progress. Coach Silas has lost this team and it shows on the court from the lack of accountability and the amount of hero ball we've seen this season.

[@LightningMo3]

Ugh... the description of the YMCA player has never hit me so personally, at 20 I thought it was a phase, at 25 I still don't care about anything about anything but dropping those dimes, Sengun is already almost next to Giddey and Jokic for me as favorite passer, so awesome to have these guys that kind of represent the guys who's gift for the game is next-level passing.

[@LightningMo3]

@@Lucifer6x3 tbh, players like this can't be super effective unless the other guys are either athletic or also have iq to beat their opponents on the movements created.

[@DirtySprite9]

Future all-star no doubt. The rockets just need to accept that he’s their true franchise cornerstone and give him the keys to the team

[@wjm52358]

What's the alternative?

[@j.s.t.6515]

I don't think he's going to be an All star if he can't play any defense at all and doesn't shoot the ball either. If he can get a mid range j at least, mayyyyybee

[@WXLTUR]

⁠@@j.s.t.6515He doesn’t have to shoot threes to be an all star

[@motivationalburst]

@@j.s.t.6515 he is 20 my friend ... with 24-25 he would have at least defense like jokic and shooting so lets see whats gonna happen

[@realtalk6195]

I want to see the Rockets' G-League team (RGV Vipers) sign two of his Turkish teammates, Sadik Emir Kabaca and Ercan Osmani, to a one-year deal just to test them out. He's played his whole Turkish club career with them and are still teammates on the national team. If it works out they could pair them together on the NBA court and the Houston Rockets could become a powerhouse.

[@thebokism]

Not sure if he will ever get his range but he has a pretty good touch and a good shooting form just needs couple of off season work. His strength and verticality will improve a bit in a couple of years remember he is only 20 and now he has a chance to work with the best trainers in US. Turnovers are a problem but man he made 11 assists tonight. One thing that is missing in this video is that he is extremely flexible and agile with good effort( he still lacks condition though) which will make him an average defender in time.

[@Hypergraph]

yeah. he is in his early 20s and there is a long way to go. He've just started to learn this game in the Rockets as an NBA player. I am absolutely sure he'll gain weight and experience in the coming years.

[@binary]

I freaking love Sengun. I wanted the Warriors to get him so badly, but they are still invested in Wisebum.

[@sed64]

Yesss , Şengün at Golden State. ❤

[@osmaneryavuz6964]

Best fit

[@realtalk6195]

I think Alperen can become a legend with a lesser team than the Warriors or Lakers, and I definitely don't want to see him ruin himself with the Clippers or Knicks either. The Rockets need to promote him more.

[@emirhanates188]

I really like Sengun , i am NBA fan also support him because i am also turkish but I appreciate that you also showed his weaknesses and bad plays . A lot of people just showing his talent and good sides , thanks for being honest and criticising both sides of Sengun. I just saw your video but be sure that i'll be watching your videos always.

[@antondelacruz9362]

Very clear and concise voice over. I dont even play bball.

[@eriksports]

I don't think its hyperbole to say that there is a possibility 6 years from that Sengun is the best player on the Rockets and an all-star level player. Its entirely dependent on his shot and if he can extend it, which is obviously a massive if, but the potential is there.

[@michaelsledge3904]

I agree

[@Playboipete]

its also possible hes not in the league lol. honestly just as possible. best player with jalen and potential whembya or scoot... ok sure

[@saliksalik]

@@Playboipete nuh man, he will be in the leage for sure

[@eriksports]

@@Playboipete I would say its close to 0% chance a player of Sengun's potential is out of the league in 6 years. It would have to be because of injuries which obviously would stink. Wemby and Scoot are very obviously not on the Houston Rockets at this time.

[@vincentchauvet6654]

@@Playboipete people rag on about sengun's defense but statistically hes been average and by eye test hes slightly below average meanwhile jalen has been historically bad on defense while barely cracking 40% from the field.

[@userwhom]

Alpi reminds me of that one guy in COD online that you hate to play against because of how unpredictable his play style is. He does everything his own weird way and because of how unorthodox it is, it somehow ends up working.

[@ClaraInstalledAimbot]

COD sucks

[@salihoyun126]

Ahahaha ! Just a blind hater

[@jolosarmiento24]

Jokic, Sabonis and Sengun are my 3 favorite players to watch right now

[@alper47]

I am surprised when I read the comments. We're talking about a 20-year-old boy from the other side of the world. It has been 2 years, he got used to a new country, a new culture, got used to the league despite being away from his friends and his country, learned the language and kept these statistics. Success is inevitable for someone with this character and talent.

[@pedroaugustocosta2533]

People look at prospects and rookies and want nothing but all star caliber from day one, if you don't enter the NBA putting 30 and 10 you're a scrub that should be out of the league

[@alper47]

@@pedroaugustocosta2533 There is nothing in the name of basketball in the nba. noble basketball is played in europe. This is the reason why European players have been so successful in the NBA for years. For example, it is necessary to see the game view of alperen and the positions he has created for his friends. He doesn't need to score 30 points, if he can play the other players in the team and create a position for them, that means more than 30 points anyway. This is why basketball is not played in the nba.

[@CoryWillis]

I've always told people Sengun is the weirdest athlete in the league. Man goes from looking like Zach Randolph to Lauri Markkanen.

[@elmehdinafia1237]

Markkanen is a pure shooter while this guy can’t shoot a lick..

[@DefendTheCode]

Never once on the court he resembles Lauri. They play soooo differently. This guy is basically a younger underdeveloped Sabonis.

[@pewpew9193]

@@elmehdinafia1237 Lauri is so much more than a shooter. He is an athletic 7'er that can play 3-5. He is a good shooter, but he is also fully capable of creating his own shot. Dude can put the ball on the floor & attack the rim. When he gets there, he has the size & athleticism to do damage.

[@nodefense]

terrible comparisons lol

[@CoryWillis]

@@DefendTheCode Lauri in terms of when he drives and just puts someone on a poster but then the next play jumps 8 inches off the ground

[@BenjaminPawlak-oh2ep]

Sengun is 20 years old. No, he's not perfect, as Thinking Basketball makes abundantly clear in this video, but he's a lot farther along in his development as a player than Sabonis and Jokic were at that age while also playing for the worst coach in the entire league. He's going to be a regular All-NBA guy at some point in the future.

[@t4d0W]

LOL I dunno about All-Nba. Even Domas himself is a Great Value ™ Jokic with clear weaknesses on defense and he's def not an All-NBA caliber talent. But it is possible to hide those with the right teammates and as the Kings have shown, enhance his value as a playmaking big with giving him a shooter/playmaker like Huerter to play off with. If the Rockets are committed to Sengun, they have to build the team a similar way. Otherwise just flip him to another team and get a real complimentary talent to the core the Rockets are committed to.

[@onmywayup94]

All NBA? Lmao when do you see him being a top 3 center?

[@ConnorBrew19]

@@onmywayup94people said that about Jokic too

[@Desi365]

I don't think so. He has mental weaknesses that will become obvious in playoff games, too. On top of his weird and largely inefficient game. Utimately, I belive he just sucks. Imean, he has real talent but he sucks.

[@JT-tl5mk]

LOL

[@NOYOUSHUTUP3.14]

It's funny when I was watching him score I thought of Rony Seikley with all of those spins, but Rony was a much more athletic big and moves like Alperen does would be dunks when Seikley would do them. Upon watching this breakdown I came up with another inside, below the rim score, with all the upfakes, the spins, the sneaky strength and contact initiating.... Aidrian Dantley. Of course Sengun is a MUCH more capable and willing passer than OG AD ever was but given rhe hybridization of the game you really can't come up with clean comps for modern players. Again love this channel! It is quickly becoming the only basketball channel that I can confidently leave a comment on that won't eventually devolve into a war of words.

[@ThinkingBasketball]

Great comps.

[@glenmosier8644]

This video aged really well with the addition of VanVleet. Having that 3 point threat, and having a good point guard for the pick and rolls/pops has made life better and easier on him and we can see he's still growing in his game.

[@Eidenhoek]

3:55 This is so, *so* clean, I had to rewatch to figure out what the heck was going on. It's freaking beautiful. Which, to get on my soapbox ow my knees, is what infuriates me when there's the rhetoric that basketball is boring or dying. THIS, is basketball. Space manipulation. Passing into space. Anticipation. It's *really* hard to see realtime, I openly admit, but that's what makes it *insane* that these passes are happening at all. Basketball, more and more, is becoming soccer in a much more enclosed space (and, y'know, running over someone for a dunk obvs), and I love that.

[@drew.p.y]

i love you so much for articulating it like this. these are exactly my thoughts lol. its weird how much easier sports are in general for me now. i feel like because of soccer, I can figure out any game pretty damn well.

[@serdaryaman5670]

Thank you for recognizing him. Was hoping for you to make a video about him.

[@zachskeba782]

I absolutely love your videos man. Keep doing what you do brother

[@bigdaddyleroy1915]

he reminds me of Hakeem O.

[@jonosono]

Can't wait to watch the updated video on this guy.

[@ImBarryScottCSS]

Man is an absolute master of the groundhook.

[@jeromemackey9683]

Quickly becoming one of my favorite KZbin channels keep up the great work

[@pg13pacernation30]

He is still so Young, got that raw big man talent and got time to develope into a great player. He is one of my favorite young up coming player. He already has incredible footwork and great vision for a big man. Hopefully his FT shooting improves and I'm sure his defense will get better down the line. Excited to see how he turns out in a few years.

[@westonfoster797]

Came back 10 months later to say that this video put Sengun on my radar, and this season I've been watching the guy cook. Long Live the YMCA King!

[@astromigui]

Very Nice video Ben, thank you for everything you do I really love your podcast and your videos, I never miss an episode. The editing was on point in this one, it really made me laugh ! Keep up the good work =)

[@TheTEN24]

Never heard of this dude great breakdown and an interesting player for sure

[@MlLFS4L]

Title is crazy😭

[@sfwisdom6673]

Glad you said something about him. He has been catching my eye with his witty plays for a while now.

[@ObnoxiousOtter8]

Those clips of him running back made me cry oh my god he’s just amazing

[@zdthekilla6950]

BASKETBALL IS A BEAUTIFUL BEAUTIFUL GAME. It’s lovely how it translates to the younger generation

[@dereklimwaikit6286]

I've like what I saw from him way back in the Summer league where, yes, hard to miss his whisper-to-the-ball free throw routine. Very very interesting big who have plenty of room to grow and it'd be exciting to see where he goes from here.

[@lucasravazzani1441]

Your video quality is absolutely unbelievable, I almost never comment on youtube but I figured you should know. Keep it up

[@Clawed1234]

Sengun averages a ton of blocks/steals/fouls which to me signifies he has high defensive effort. His wingspan is 2-3 inches longer than Sabonis. Hakeem said he was "amazed" how agile and flexible Sengun is. Kevin Durant said he was surprised how much hops he has. You are undercutting his defense and his athleticism.

[@mbulentozfirat8102]

I had to watch another false narrative about Sengun defense. Liability blah blah, nothing backed up with any stats. He has more steals than those quick guards, more blocks and rabounds than anyone on the roaster. And opposing bigs always have low scores while playing agaist him. Very poor work is done here without advanced stats and deep analysis. The problem in houston is perimeter defense of guards and Jabari lack of help defense, not him. He always had to guard two players on drop

[@ichirosuzuki2252]

@@mbulentozfirat8102 steals and blocks aren't really indicative of anything. A player can have a ton of steals and be a liability on defense because they gamble for them. A player can have tons of blocks and be horrible on defense because they always go for blocks instead of being in good position and preventing shots. (see: Hassan Whiteside)

[@mbulentozfirat8102]

@@ichirosuzuki2252 you better watch some other sports bro. Or check individual defensive stats of the team before you open your mouth

[@Clawed1234]

@@ichirosuzuki2252 Steals and blocks don't equal good defense but they signify something. Block = he has some vertical game. Steals = good BBIQ able to obtain steals as a post player is good sign. Hasan Whiteside doesn't have the steals that Sengun has.

[@thewayoflj9344]

"Bizarro Jokic" 😅 that is gold!

[@mrstar9]

The reason of his poor vertocality on defense is to prevent fouls. He used to contest evwry shot with all his might and got subbwd out cuz of that. A lot. Nowadays he just puts his arms up and even steps back to lower thw contact as much as possible. His chasedown block game is strong though. He has good timing on that.

[@matthewmullins4046]

Sounds like if the coaches weren't crap there's some potential there. Could teach him how to contest better. Mobley jumps high all the time so it can be done Rockets coaching staff is terrible 😔

[@sametcer4806]

Almost everything he does gets whistle because he is considered a new player i guess. When he improves himself to the league and gets rid of the foul problem he will be better.

[@notmarealnameboi]

He's strong with good body control. Awesome video! Fun watch!

[@octaviacoleman2476]

the shimmy at 1:30 is seriously the funniest thing I've seen in awhile

[@introvart3394]

He is so fun to watch

[@harrisontull8377]

Alperen Sengun evolves into Domantas Sabonis who evolves into Nikola Jokic

[@hollins625]

You gotta love this kind of passing and court vision on a big man. Seems to me, the game is changing that big men are the primary playmakers and little guys do most of the scoring.

[@markosixtynine]

This might be my favorite vid of yours Ben. The lighter nature of this one was awesome

[@daniel_dumile]

This is my favourite Thinking Basketball video

[@knpercinel]

Thank you for the video, loved it! But you missed to mention his rebounding,

[@Watermelon_Man]

I know Jokic is pretty reserved and doesn’t really do too much outside of his normal routine, but I hope that he will let Sengun train with him at some point

[@trofl]

Georges Niang played a lot like this in college before honing his "jump" shot. He was a bucket in the post with those YMCA moves to shoot over bigger and bouncier defenders. However in the NBA, his lack in other post player necessities like rebounding and shot altering means he has to play alongside other big men which means he's not going one on one when in the post which tends to negate this kind of offense.

[@anthonynorman7545]

Y'all had fun with this!

[@apjlefebvre]

this was a particularly fun video.

[@gaj7062]

Dude is literally this guy John we used to play with. Guy was in his late 50s early 60s, slow as hell, inconsisten outside shooting, but when it came to passes, post moves, leverage, and general iq there was no one better

[@Hypergraph]

thre is this guy in LA called professor. lol

[@fpvaddictdad2730]

Great analysis!

[@david.tousignant20]

The traditional post moves disappeared from the late 2000s to the late 2010s, but since the last two seasons, it's on the rise again : Embiid, Jokic, Vucevic, Ayton, Doncic, Sabonis, Nurkic, Valanciunas, Porzongis, Sengun, Davis, Giannis [etc.] are using it more and more. Even the mid-range game has returned with players like Doncic, Curry, Durant, Paul, DeRozan... Everything is cyclical.

[@david.tousignant20]

@demondog20 Duncan started playing in the 1990s when post players were the norm. He was an exception, not the rule.

[@david.tousignant20]

@demondog20 Refer to my first response. Follow the rule... for one Gasol, you had multiple examples proving my points. You won't sound smarter by adding exceptions to your rambling. Anyway. Pau started playing in 2001 (early 2000s). You should read my comment before commenting.

[@david.tousignant20]

@demondog20 You never played basketball your entire life or what? You know what an exception is? When the NBA saw a decline in hook shots in the 1980s, Kareem was still playing...

[@BiggidyB]

You sir have a beautifully described with humor this wondrous being. Thank you kindly for sharing your talent. Alperen seems like a class act, love the humility & kid-like love for the game. Edit: your chuckle makes me chuckle, spot on analysis!

[@omerfarukisleyen2937]

Always makes me wow with his moves!

[@hobowithagun24]

He’s going to innovate the game in ways Jokic did and many others that came before him, His moves may seem weird and unorthodox, but once he becomes a multi time all star you will see young guys trying to use his post moves and floater. Dirks fadeaway was unorthodox at the time, Kareem’s sky hook was unorthodox at the time, Manu Ginobli euro step was unorthodox at the time. Senguns floater is unorthodox at the time.

[@perryrubin7781]

stfu with this ridiculous hyperbole, it's an insult to the hall of famers you just named.

[@hobowithagun24]

@@perryrubin7781 😂😂. Sengun will be a hall of famer once he gets traded from the rockets and is able to thrive :) . I hope this triggers you more then my first statement because both of them will be true.

[@perryrubin7781]

​@@hobowithagun24 lol what are you nostradamus. You know i'm right dickhead. And the only thing that triggers me is the fact I have to live in a world where ignorant morons such as yourself exist, but maybe your third comment will trigger me more than your other two and then i'll be just so triggered I won't know what to do with myself. In fact, I'll be so triggered that the only remedy will be crying myself to sleep then afterwards shooting myself in the head. You're softer than charmin dude, you couldn't even trigger a redneck with a drag show. I've seen better comebacks in english from people that don't even speak english lol.

[@sipsisina]

@@perryrubin7781 You definitely cried yourself to sleep that night

[@perryrubin7781]

@@sipsisina Actually, I cried myself to sleep then shot myself in the head learn how to read. I survived unfortunately if that wasn't already evident, and for the record I cry myself to sleep every night. Get your facts straight before you start commenting random stuff. Also, did my good friend Al offer you a blowjob to write that? If so, what are his rates? It's hard to find a good hooker in this day and age.

[@serkanmutlu2840]

He is the new superstar 👍👍👍

[@mudassirawad5533]

He is one of those players who will get traded to a contender and people will be amazed how good he actually is, when he's been doing these for years now like Aaron Gordon, Jreu Holiday or Jimmy Butler.

[@bender4183]

Those players are all amazing defenders that were undefeated for not being offensive centerpieces tho

[@tylerjloce]

I have never heard a more accurate way or comparison to describe Sengun's game

[@mehmeteminm]

My favorite basketball channel makes a video about our pride and favorite Al-p 🇹🇷 Ty for the quality content 🙋‍♂️

[@joaopcoutinho]

That’s the most hipster video of the season, and I love it I haven’t watched a single rockets game this year, and you gave me a reason to do so

[@slavajuri]

Super interesting player. The Sabonis and Jokic comparisons are obvious, but there are shades of Luke Walton and early-career Draymond Green (not on defence lol) as well. If he doesn't develop athletically or find a real jumpshot I think his career will sadly be cut short, but if he gets either of those down he certainly has a role. Been watching him since he was eligible for the draft, excited to see more! :)

[@fhjunior6183]

Thanks for the vid

[@loren4800]

he actually reminds me more of Sabonis Senior.....but still a lot to evolve in that

[@Posesso]

Creative and entertaining

[@oguzsemerci705]

Great content. Thx

[@Makeveli420]

I love this channel!

[@hub7077]

Bizarro Jokic is the best Sengun description I've ever heard

[@johncarolina4950]

The way Silas uses (or more like doesn't use) Sengun should get him fired. So talented

[@willhooke]

There's no school like old school!

[@Homer-OJ-Simpson]

OMG, never heard of him but his game is indeed old man basketball from the YMCA. He's that 40yr old guy who use to play but now is a little overweight and much slower than his youth but smarter than ever. That 40yr old knows all the little moves and tricks and sometimes likes to just pretend he's 20yrs old again enjoying the game like a kid.

[@ziggle5000]

I've seen you post on this channel as if you're some sort of expert arguing John Stockton is a goat passer because of assist numbers and now you say you've never heard of Sengun? Smh can't say I'm surprised.

[@Homer-OJ-Simpson]

@@ziggle5000 oh, you mean the short guy who wasn’t among the most explosive nor a big scorer but somehow has amazing advance numbers such as leading the league in offensive box plus minus and often beating Malone in offensive ratings and often among the top in the league in offensive win shares is somehow not among the elite passers of all time? You, like all the people in that other thread, won’t respond with an answer on how he was not one of the top passers of all time while not being an elite scorer yet having tremendous offensive advance stats.

[@Homer-OJ-Simpson]

@@ziggle5000 I do look forward to your rebuttal because I’m sure you’re the one that is able to figure out how Stockton isn’t an elite all time passer yet advance stats have very high up when his game was mostly from passing. As I stated in the other thread, my guess is Stockton was a great passer due to passing decision making and placing the ball perfectly for a shooter for improved scoring chances as opposed to someone that makes more complex passes. Anyone that has ever played basketball knows how important it is to get the ball perfectly passed to you. I do look forward to you’re response oh wise one.

[@firstlast3946]

Good to see him.

[@luckilew]

Dude is just out there having fun