the guys shading ned (post n-day)

hello i am sorry it took me forever but i did it
ive got a bunch of other ideas, not all of them ned-based mostly cause i love what the guys are doing on their own! it's become so clear now just how much ned was holding them back and i wanna celebrate the guys and all the things they'll do in the future :)
that being said, i love drama and being petty. so if i have more ned ideas. im gonna do them. i could write a thesis paper on all the aspects of what happened but thats not as funny as the bs i do here so enjoy my snarky commentary on my would-be citations :)
thanks for sticking around :) love you guys!!
all footage belongs to ‪@tryguys‬ , nothing but love to them and their staff as they head into the new year and their much deserved month off.
Videos:
0:00 ok, let's talk about it. - The TryPod Ep. 181
0:39 The Try Guys Make Pop-Tarts Without A Recipe
1:11 Try Guys Throw Zach’s Dream Bachelor Party
1:58 The Truth About Zach's Bachelor Party - The TryPod Ep. 189
3:08 ok, let's talk about it. - The TryPod Ep. 181

[@lawrencefosterjenkins8216]

“Now we’re one third gay” always gets me

[@harpurr53]

i love that they Technically got more gay because of this. little miracles!

[@meital661]

Personally I fucking love Zach's "Still forth somehow"

[@krtierney]

[@katyprarie]

a win for diversity!

[@Oliver_1599]

SAME BRO i gasped when i first saw that lol

[@EKEastlake]

When you begin to realise it’s not Ned you miss… its very much Ariel

[@noir1817]

I truly miss Ariel. I miss her with Try Wives, her decorating series and being part of You Can Sit With Us. 😭

[@Petey7158]

Yes. I have to say Ned can be gone but Ariel. We need Ariel back but that won’t happened.

[@rachelsato7953]

Yessssss! My first thought when I heard that Ned was a vile, cheating, bastard and no longer part of the try guys, I honestly was like “okay but can we still have Ariel as a try wife?” Like I know that would probably be super awkward and kinda traumatic for her right now. But I want her as a try wife so bad still!

[@vivianrichards1313]

This is just me but.... I think Neds stake in the company as part owner should have been transferred to Ariel upon his firing. Nothing says F.U. more than your former buddies bringing your wife in as a boss while throwing you in the trash. I'd love to see Ariel come back in full force at some point and I secretly, quietly hope she divorces Ned.

[@slendygirl3894]

I miss Ariel and her boys

[@raceytray3963]

You needed the part where Zack jokingly said he would trade a kiss on the cheek for a food item on without a recipe and Keith responded “mmmm not in this climate”

[@jamie.lynn004]

That video made me lose it at work😂😭

[@arighostea]

Which episode was that lol

[@jmason1770]

@@arighostea try guys 60-minute thanksgiving challenge

[@MeonLights]

People in the comments were like "I thought this was about covid" and then realizing 😂

[@rachelnorris9869]

I hate how Ned says "consensual workplace relationship" when he was the head of HR which clearly created a power imbalance.. hard to get consent when you're someone's boss

[@eleanorcooke7136]

Legally, you can't get consent because there is a possibility that it was faked out of fear for their job. You can't rule out that possibility so that's why they could've been up for a sexual misconduct case.

[@cornbreadcoathanger3544]

Trust me, Alex was VERY consenting of it considering she was willing to do her 10 yr long relationship and FIANCÉ in like that.

[@juanmanuelmoramontes3883]

It really depends, she also had a partner, I don't she's clean in this either.

[@eleanorcooke7136]

@@juanmanuelmoramontes3883 she's definitely not clean but the company could be under fire. Because he was her boss, she could say that she felt pressured, even if she didn't.

[@greyking3792]

Dude, she had a fiance that shed been in a very long-term relationship with. She knew exactly what she was doing. You're making it out like it's a teacher and a minor student. Or a ceo and a janitor. When really, the better example would be an employee dating a manager from a different division, as he was not a direct supervisor. I'm not saying he's innocent of cheating, as he very much isn't, but this abusing authority nonsense is just pure cap. If they worked at Home Depot, for example, the comparison would be if she was in the garden centre and dating the manager of the tool rental section. Sure, he's higher up in management, but they are not in the same vertical hierarchy. Now, if there'd been an hr issue and he sided with her or sided against her, then you could claim an abuse of power, but I've heard no suggestions of the kind. I suspect the real truth is that the 3 Amigos realized it'd be a great way to go from being 1/4 of the main cast to being 1/3 of the cast, thus meaning they would get a far larger share of the profits. But I'm sure everyone will disagree with that last point as everyone is eating up what the remaining try guys are saying, and not even considering if there were motives behind the scenes.

[@motherofdraqons]

you forgot the shady part from guilty pleasures where Zach is like, "Trust me, people who went to Yale aren't that great."

[@xyincognito]

Which episode was that ?

[@livallen9304]

Lol I waa trying to remember that. Yeah, I remember 3 things about N. 1) Talked non-stop about going to Yale, and was desperately clinging to his frat boy personna 2) "I'm a wife guy." Tried to act like it but seemed super fake, idk. It was like watching my friend and her ex right before the divorce. 3) Massive douche, didn't even hide it. Try guys didn't hide it. Obvious they didn't like the guy.

[@motherofdraqons]

@@xyincognito it was on an episode of guilty pleasures! I think they were reviewing the Netflix movie, do revenge

[@effelmendoza1374]

I screamed along with Kelsey when he said that 😂

[@motherofdraqons]

@@effelmendoza1374 lmao same 😂

[@steelfoot98]

other KZbinr companies after a falling out: **hushed tones, brief formal statements, quickly moving on** Try guys: “I KNOW he stole our goddamn FONT the rat!”

[@nadarocker7605]

😂😂😂

[@jaydena6297]

​@@endlessforestmediasays you lol. You comment on this for what reason other to insult people. Ned was an asshole who always talked about how much he loves his wife and then cheated on her he doesn't deserve anything

[@rfldss89]

I feel like they are reaching for straws with that. It just looks like the iOS notes app to me (although I'm not an iPhone user, do I'm not super familiar outside of notes app screenshots I've seen).

[@miriamjazovi]

@@rfldss89 Yeah I was gonna say, that looks like the default iphone notes app font, down to the slightly grayish hue. I think he just typed that in his notes and screenshotted it.

[@la1498]

it isnt though, look at the lower case G. Still doesnt make him a better person though

[@phi7534]

genuinely obsessed with "and we used to work with someone who didn't edit at all"

[@adlinar2445]

Do u know the time stamp? I missed it

[@amelia13131]

@@adlinar2445 3:02

[@MaraLoeters]

@@adlinar2445 3:04

[@devintrevor8142]

i totally missed that in the podcast but about spit out my drink just now XD

[@adlinar2445]

@@amelia13131 thank you!!

[@uramisugi]

"Everything is fine: A totally normal season" they're not being at all subtle about what happened and i'm so happy for them

[@peachytheii202]

i think that’s because it’s the only way to act about it 😂 everybody knows at this point it’s hard to avoid it

[@uramisugi]

@@peachytheii202 and honestly they have every right to shade Ned as much as they want considering the implications of how bad of a person he was to work with BEFORE the infidelity was even confirmed 💀

[@elfarlsky]

My favourite part of that is the thumbs up. I don't know why but it really gets me 😂😅

[@marthedreamer7629]

@@uramisugi why was he such a bad person to work with? /gen

[@mungethekpopstan]

​@@marthedreamer7629He threw full on tantrums (note the gingerbread episode), was rude/uncaring most of the time

[@dragonbowlsupper]

Really sounds like N wasn't a huge loss

[@SessVlogs]

I genuinely keep forgetting he ever existed 😂

[@n3onvalkyrie936]

He was always the one i tolerated to enjoy the other 3

[@blugreen123]

I said that too. He was the least impactful one to lose.

[@nightingale4786]

i get the vibe that the others just put up with him because in their early days, it was beneficial to have someone with a managerial background to do all the books without having to outsource it. creatively though, i don't think ned was a key contributor at all. in the same podcast, i think keith was the one who said that the true essence of what set the try guys apart was their fast and comedic editing. and that was a slight at how ned didn't contribute to that at all. i loved that!

[@love2manythings]

@@nightingale4786 Ned also had the financial backing to help start the company. His family is really well off apparently so while I don't think he got money from them directly, he was already in a good financial position because of them.

[@scattypetty]

Whenever Eugene wasn't in a video, I always went "aww where's Eugene? :(", but when Ned wasn't in the stand-up video, I didn't notice until someone said they probably edited him out..

[@nadarocker7605]

I'm glad it wasn't just me. I honestly did not notice he was gone until the literal day the announcement was posted.

[@jonathanbryant7884]

My exact thought was, thank god Ned isn't in this one!

[@vangoore]

all i’ve learned from this is that they kinda had problems w ned behind the scenes😭

[@melbell0865]

Yeah, and that whole scandal, unintentionally became the opening for them to bash on Ned openly, without repercussions on themselves. TL;DR, it’s open season for bashing on Ned now!

[@lornadunes7850]

for real! i was nervous about beating a dead horse or making the guys uncomfy, but if they're doing it its free reign for us >:)

[@harmc2301]

I’ve been getting the same vibe they had issues with him. And listening back to older podcasts especially from 2019-2020 you can really hear how annoyed the guys got at times like he cuts Zach off a lot

[@vangoore]

@@harmc2301 especially since the guys were kinda nervous that if they approached the situation the wrong way ned would do smth??? like okay that’s weird, made me rethink what type of person he was

[@TheAjRae]

Like non of these clips were from before the separation tho. He made his bed and unlike most other sections of society these guys are making him lie in it

[@lilac_reed]

"and we used to work with someone who didn't edit at all" I WISH TO THROW THAT LEVEL OF SHADE EDIT: HOW IS THIS AT 10K THATS INSANE THANKS IG WOAH

[@MsAliciaRL]

Though tbf, Ned did handle most of the business side of the company (that the other three didn't want to deal with) and before he was a manager at Buzzfeed. Ned is scum, but I will defend him on that point.

[@Sweetlyevil18]

Thank you for writing that out, I misheard it the first time.

[@denzoa8288]

What's this about??

[@Ariplaygames]

Honestly the only thing Ive missed is Ariel, but the boys feel super fresh and so much better and nothing is missing. Ariel on the other hand did contribute a lot and was a strong and amazing women to see. Hopefully one day she realizes that cheaters will always cheat again and that her husband doesnt love her, and she leaves his ass and comes back.

[@ahhh4117]

She might have to wait for the divorce to be finalized to come back if that's true

[@Ariplaygames]

@@ahhh4117 From what we have seen, she isnt leaving him which is sad. I wish she realized that she is setting herself for a life of disrespect and misery.

[@teethang1]

@@Ariplaygames Yea, I've seen the same, it doesn't look like she's leaving him. I know some media outlet (I can't remember which one) filmed them out and about together not too long ago and when the person filming asked them what was going on she said "we're working on working it out." Plus in California divorce records are public, and neither has filed for divorce (I just did a quick search before posting this).

[@caithenry8429]

@@Ariplaygames big yikes. She's also setting her sons up to hate her when they get old enough to understand this drama and realize that she cares more about having the perfect family image instead of healthy, loving relationships. Unfortunate all around

[@cexilady3333]

@@caithenry8429 not necessarily, she could be doing it for her sons, because it’s possible that Ned is helpful for the boys. We don’t know what it’s like behind closed doors. I’m fully advocating she leaves him but relationships are complicated and they didn’t put their ENTIRE life on the internet.

[@Scrofar]

I was so worried for how the Tri Guys were going to bounce back from the whole scandal, but with how quickly and seamlessly they embraced the hectic situation with tenfold the humor, I could not imagine a more ideal way to recover from it. 🧡

[@emmiebunny04]

They did the right thing immediately and people have a lot more respect for them for it. There's a reason why people are hating on Ned and not the group as a whole.

[@dontbesuspiciousgrrl]

It’s almost like they are professionals or something! 😊

[@MsAliciaRL]

@@emmiebunny04 Exactly. The way Keith, Zach, and Eugene have handled this situations (along with the loyalty of the rest of the company), I have even more respect for them than before! They handled the scandal like champs and did everything perfectly.

[@greenbeantm1096]

@@dontbesuspiciousgrrlwell they are professionals are what they do no one’s a professional at dealing with this kind of thing. As it was they had to outsource HR help because N convinced them they didn’t need an HR when starting the company

[@dontbesuspiciousgrrl]

@@greenbeantm1096 I understand what you're getting at here... I want to clarify and say that I think they are professionals because they were able to problem solve quickly and know what areas they needed to have brought in for assistance. That's professional to me because they know enough to know who to reach out to. They are professional to me because they didn't just knee jerk react and were very cautious about how this was handled.

[@huntern4454]

The thing that makes me mad the most: Ned’s copying the font making it allude that they were comparing apologies.

[@lornadunes7850]

for real that made me so mad, and the guys did a great job of talking about it without putting themselves at risk for slander (i.e. Keith saying our opinion 4x)

[@xiztence]

not supporting ned at all, but that doesn't look like the same font, you can see it on the g's and the a's mostly. It's very similar though

[@olidon96]

@@xiztence not supporting him either of course but it’s definitely not the same font. ned obviously used the fucking iphone notes app lmao

[@thespankmyfrank]

@@olidon96 It's not the same font, but he definitely tried to make the statements look similar. He probably thought it'd be a good thing for his image, making it seem like he left on good terms, when in reality it just makes him seem a bit manipulative.

[@cexilady3333]

@@thespankmyfrank who knew that a wife guy *allegedly* cheating on his wife could do something manipulative? No I’m not still mad *they lied through their teeth*

[@lustforlimerence]

after n-day and the announcement of essentially a soft rebrand of the try guys, i always wondered in the back of my mind if ~he~ was the one who didn’t want to take risks with the content and now the remaining guys feel kind of free to let loose there’s also an existential angle of having felt so close to losing their whole livelihood or knowing that they can never truly go back to the way things were before but, yeah, i’m just spitballing here

[@pantomimegoose]

Yeah, I always felt that if the Guys had traditional titles, Ned would be CFO. He definitely seemed most aware of their financial position and consequently was more risk-averse, so he focused on creating reliably sponsor friendly content. Just my impression.

[@veronicajacobsen6443]

Remember back to the beginning of Second Try-Ned brought it up to the other 3, and literally made them do it in his old house. Ned is nothing and had no career without the other Try Guys. But his hubris was too much.

[@MeonLights]

It's almost paradox if he really was so concerned about risk with the company and then he does something that could annihilate the company with lawsuits. Truly shows that guys like him don't follow the rules they demand of others...

[@torakunoichi]

Ned is the white bread of the group he’s really nothing special and is just kinda there

[@fable23]

Seems to me Ned was _fine_ with taking risks, but only stupid ones that would destroy his life, apparently!

[@slkshewolf]

Everyone saying Ned wasn't a huge loss...he clearly was. He was a major loss, because he was clearly holding them all back so he could be the "front man" of the group, and now look at them go! Just because he was a huge loss, doesn't mean he wasn't a good loss. Can't wait for the guys bring in 2023!

[@aff77141]

Sometimes you lose things and it feels like the end of the world, and it's tough, but in the end it's for the best and looking back you can appreciate how bad it was and how thankful you are it's over

[@slkshewolf]

@@aff77141 Absolutely agree!

[@fragiledate]

the real bad loss here is ARIELLLL 😞

[@NyxieMayn]

Beautifully worded 👏

[@remyuk]

i feel like he's only a 'major loss' because of the huge scandal that came with him. in my opinion, it's very easy to watch the try guys and forget they have to purposefully edit him out. he really didn't add much to the content if it's so easy to forget about him.

[@t0tally3rica]

Keith being the married one now sends me

[@nicolasnamed]

And now Keith is the dad also lol

[@gracepeng2729]

I love the new era! I love that they have diversified and done things they really want to do. Also---big props to their editing team!!!!

[@mariaah3073]

this was really the editing team's time to shine. every single bit they pulled was so fucking funny! it's great to see the team making the best out of a shitty situation lol

[@Smiley_Fruitcake]

We don't miss Ned. We do miss Ariel, she was a gentle sweetheart that was able to pull out surprise jokes and shock us with her wit. A true gem.

[@ashlee7383]

please make one of miles shading him on his podcast Perfect Person, especially the episode with kelsey 😭

[@MsAliciaRL]

There's another clip with Kelsey during Guilty Pleasures, where Zach casts some blatant shade!

[@rishikaagupta4577]

Which one exactly?

[@ashlee7383]

@@rishikaagupta4577 episode 14 of perfect person is the one with kelsey, but he also threw some good shade about ned being invited to his wedding in an episode with his wife sarah which could've been episode 13 but I'm not sure!! honestly every episode is really funny

[@gollum1ring]

Calling it N Day just makes me imagine Wanda Maximoff having a breakdown and declaring "No More Neds."

[@cameronsitton501]

"Peter, I don't feel so good"

[@gay_king22]

Loved that House of M refference

[@kitti6273]

was not expecting an xmen reference out in the wild today 😭

[@notdipperpines6626]

Still can't get over the wording in N's response. "I'm sorry for any pain my actions MAY have caused." Like what do you mean "may"? You just ruined your marriage and lost not only all your friends but also your career. Did he think that no one was gonna be upset?

[@recoil53]

It's standard boiler plate apologizing. A lot of them take no responsibility and are more like "if you didn't like it, sorry for that, but it's kind of you".

[@moniquedam1780]

I dont remember where. But an analyzer said, he isn't sorry. If he is, he would've said, I'm sorry FOR the pain I caused to my wife. Any and may is kinda just a slap in the face 😅

[@recoil53]

@@amandacantcometothephone Yeah, I'm sure there's no awkward silences and arguments. Also financial stress is the leading cause of divorce.

[@ajabee2957]

Just curious, but what does Ned do these days? Wondering because he should owe Ariel lots of moola (that she deserves)

[@thisisachannel.780]

still can’t get over that one post that was like “this drama was so much y’all made the little one grow a beard”

[@thefinalfrontear]

thank u for reminding me of this, i’m cackling all over again

[@thisisachannel.780]

@@thefinalfrontear he looked so sad 😭 we really did make the little one grow a beard

[@remylewis8721]

The fact that the try guys have been able to get through without a recipe and actually gain MORE fans than they had with Ned speaks VOLUMES about how much Ned was actually disliked by both the audience and the guys before he was even outted as a lying, cheating dumb*ss.

[@MintySomething]

yeah ngl, i wouldnt say he was *the* reason i stopped watching/listening at some point but i clearly remember pausing during ned segments or skipping them altogether. not for any deep reasons, more like when he started giving financial tips or something. his vibes were always so much more, idk, middle aged lmao, it didn't really fit with the others

[@remylewis8721]

@@MintySomething Same! For me personally in addition to just finding his voice to be kind of annoying I really didn't like the way he talked about Ariel and their relationship. His whole "my wife" bit came across as he viewed her as a possession not a partner. He also got increasingly arrogant as they became more successful while the other dudes stayed the same (at least in videos/podcasts) Anything segment or bit he was in on his own I skipped.

[@recoil53]

@@MintySomething God yes. He was always trying to hard to be a screen presence. Back at BF when all the TG did stuff together, I could ignore it - get through the bad character to watch the rest. With their own channel sometimes doing stuff by themselves? Far too much Ned. I stooped watching the channel entirely because of him.

[@livallen9304]

He was for sure the reason I stopped watching years ago. He always came across so fake, and he started dominating the conversation so much it just wasn't worth it anymore.

[@mrkillman555]

Has all of this happened because Ned just had an affair? Surely there must be more because this seems like a massive over reaction

[@dayschange2]

I'm always going to be so curious about what Ned's reaction to losing in the poptart episode must have looked like, for it to have been so intense that Rachel seemingly came out from behind the camera to comfort the judges.

[@SarrySammy]

God yes. I wish we could have seen that.

[@Jo-zz9nu]

The biggest impact Ned left behind is the hassle the poor guys had to go through to edit him out of pre recorded videos. Other than that, it's really like he was never a part of the team. It doesnt seem like his cringey jokes are missed by the audience, videos aren't any shorter or less quality, no one is saying "Aw, I miss when Ned was here". Seeying how much the guys are shining and all the new cool editions we are getting, this change was truly for the best.

[@Jo-zz9nu]

ARIEL THO. That's a different story. She was funny, witty, hardworking and such a sweetheart. I hope she is successful in whatever she does.

[@kiiokotoriikitscrazyhesony8242]

NO ONE misses ned, but everyone, myself included, misses ariel because she was such a treat

[@UglyBabyFunny]

Not that I blame other youtubers for avoiding talking about their canceled former "coworkers" (can't think of a better word), but it's refreshing to see them be so openly shady without it being overwhelmingly vitriolic. Of course, that approach wouldn't work in every case, but it's nice that they're able to process all this so openly.

[@ameliarose47]

Vanoss crews digs at Minilad are pretty funny imo (esp Nogla, he isn't afraid to make the jokes)

[@livallen9304]

For sure. It kind of just wipes him from the conversation, versus raking him over the coals puts more spotlight and favor on him and he can retaliate. A few sly comments kind of breezes through the awkwardness and you move on. It's like seeing a cockroach on the sidewalk; you grimace and leave it to its refuse.

[@pyrusvincent1029]

I REALLY wish you had included the "Bad ideas... is not a phrase we use anymore." from Eugene's surprise appearance on the Trypod.

[@lornadunes7850]

oh shit how did i miss that

[@Roserae16]

That line alone... the volume inside of this bus is astronomical 😂👀

[@randomestfunnythings]

In the poptart video you missed where they intentionally didn't edit him out eating a banana in the background when the judges were giving their verdict to Zach

[@sweetestbunny]

omg i wanna see this so bad where can i find it😭😭

[@orangeants]

@@sweetestbunny in the poptarts without a recipe!

[@monicagrace9536]

I went to go check this and omg I can't with him wearing an "I love bad ideas" shirt 😂 I think we all figured that out, Ned

[@alex_whitney]

tbh i got really iritated when i saw that like dude couldn't you wait a few more minutes until you finished filming to eat something.

[@lornadunes7850]

i wanted to at first but they didnt edit him out of any of the other episodes’ judging portion so it didn’t seem like a purposeful dig imo

[@dandycandyhearts]

I know they said there's not going to be a new "fourth Try Guy" (which I fully understand) but I'd love to see Gio in more videos. He was funny as hell 😂

[@kjerstinspark-stahl105]

Honestly make it a running gag. Any guest is just auditioning to be the 4th try guy.

[@satyre_1]

@@kjerstinspark-stahl105 lol! That would legit be hilarious and totally on-brand for them!

[@hkazu63]

Honestly, in my head, I’m putting forth Gio, Kwasi and Becky. They’ve all appeared in videos and shown they’re a GREAT asset in them.

[@sandydog426]

Everyone is commenting on how Ned wasn't a big loss, how the guys have clearly moved on and feel more free and unburdened, etc. And I agree! But it's also important to keep in mind just how huge of a betrayal this was for them. They may have had issues with Ned even before the scandal, but remember, Ned was still their friend, and someone they worked with for a long time who they thought they could trust. I love how they're making it their mission to bounce back and come back better than ever, but this wasn't some "oh well, too bad about Ned, now then let's move on." This was devastating to them, and I don't ever want to take for granted how painful this has been for Eugene, Zac, and Keith, despite Ned's departure ultimately being for the better.

[@colourlessvoid]

"We are now one third gay" The N situation has now made the tri guys more inclusive

[@weirdo337]

I feel like he who shall not be named was sorta just the person who kept a stopping people from doing stuff cause of “the brand” and “marketability” and stuff cause it feels like now they’re starting to do stuff that they just want to do completely artistically and looking for creative fulfilment a lot more.

[@Emma-gi5zi]

Wasn't everything always a collective decision though ?

[@crimm7597]

Just say ned you weirdo lol

[@clearhero7487]

It seems like after N got dropped I feel like they’re happier,they have more creative room…I felt like he tried to keep everyone in this box to be like him.

[@recoil53]

Even back at BF he was majorly threatened by Eugene just being better at stuff and more popular. Did you really think he could handle two more guys growing?

[@clearhero7487]

@@recoil53 we all are inferior to Eugene let’s be real. But I know what u mean frr

[@chellesama8256]

Ned was playing it safe with the content. But TOO safe. It was going to get stale and now the adventureous (as opposed to competitive) boys are getting a breath of fresh air.

[@CM-yz3ze]

It crosses my mind that previous to the scandal, the three try guys were genuinely friends with Ned, and their content was edited to make Ned look as good as possible. I mean, of course it was edited to make them all look as good as possible- but all the stuff we can look back at and see Ned's red flags... That's after they cleaned up what they already had. It just makes you wonder what the guys were already overlooking about him, because they were being better friends to him, than he was to them.

[@caithenry8429]

Remember the drunk versus high math problems video? Where they spent an undisclosed amount of time trying to convince he who shall not be named to apologize to Keith instead of work on the problem? The answer is written at the bottom of the board, so I'm guessing it was a MUCH longer time and in the end he couldn't even spell Keith's name right

[@RenaRain]

That happens a lot. When you really like and care about a person it's easy to overlook individual little red flags and not see them building into a big pile. It's sad.

[@sue8412]

@@RenaRain yeah, and when you finally realize and internalize that they suck, it feels very validating and ignites the salty/petty side of you. I can see why the Try Guys have viciously moved on XD

[@eleanorcooke7136]

​@@caithenry8429 remember that episode of Trypod where a guest was talking about wanting to be married with no kids and you can hear Ned in the background saying "yeah, but wait until your biological clock starts ticking". It was so inappropriate that they made him issue a public apology on the next one.

[@caithenry8429]

@@eleanorcooke7136 he said that to his staff, no less! Absolute dick move

[@the-kendrick-llama]

"still somehow 4th best" love it

[@jesskasb]

"the married one" had me on the floor

[@kittystetson6737]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="29">0:29</a> Keith “the married one” THE SHADEEEE JAHSHHDHDVDH

[@alyxezra]

my favorite thing that happened is ned had made a remark about their sub count being at 7.9 mil for years, and the second he's ousted they zoomed past 8 mil. good for them good for them

[@blackrosejinx5563]

“We used to work with someone who didn’t edit at all” ICE FUCKING COLD YES 👏

[@alijeffreys8455]

in my opinion, Ned thought there was no tryguys without him. I think he would totally expect to fire anyone else who had behaved in the same way and risked the whole business, but for him he'd expect everyone to be like 'oh no we can't function without fred!' and that they would rug sweep his bullshit.

[@RachelMichtom]

i did not catch that pop tart shade before damn

[@lornadunes7850]

dude I didn’t either my dad had to point it out so credit to Paul on this one

[@giancarlooliveri9321]

@@lornadunes7850 Paul W

[@priscillamariiinn]

I haven’t watched that episode yet, but I still don’t get it 😅

[@hotsexyangel]

@@priscillamariiinn me neither 😅

[@andieallison6792]

I don't get the Pop Tart one 😭

[@ellefromm]

when zach went on puppet history and ryan said something about life getting better when you get married then zach said “nah we’re not doing wife guy shit” that killed me

[@whereyoubean]

What’s the title of the videooo? 😂

[@ellefromm]

@@whereyoubean title is “how a popes nepo baby became one of the worst tyrants in history” it’s around the 13 minute mark

[@marlo9065]

Who’s Ned? This has always been the try guys, Eugene, Zach, Keith and NOBODY ELSE

[@kirillsniff9133]

That's what n day is. Nobody day 🙂

[@krissssssss5401]

Exactly, it's the tri guys

[@matchabernardo]

Kwesi is the fourth one wdym

[@gl00myharvester]

What do you mean clearly Gio is the fourth try guy

[@marlo9065]

@@gl00myharvester how could I forget Gio? Oh what a fool I am

[@xobrynn90]

I will never get over how amazingly they keyed him out. The editors are doing the lords work

[@MissCaraMint]

Now there are two married ones. Maggie and Zach tied the knot and it looked beautiful.

[@vivianrichards1313]

They aren't throwing shade. They're casting an eclipse. 🌑💀

[@apurplekitkat]

Oh my goodness, yes, that last clip is everything. If even Rachel (who I have now learned is like a mother figure to them as well as their director) is having to tell the elephant to calm down, then something's off

[@gracegreen1828]

I didn't realize how much Ned irked me until he was gone. They are a stronger channel without him. I do miss Ariel though. She seemed lovely.

[@HD.418]

Again, another round of props for the editors who worked tirelessly probably through one of the most stressful periods and were still able to line the cloud with their hilarity 👏👏👏

[@jordanv5676]

I stopped watching their channel bc I thought they were getting annoying. Turns out it was just him and now I like their channel again

[@CeceJianni]

I just wish Ariel felt comfortable enough to be a part of the channel still. She deserved better.

[@pmh-media]

What makes me kind of sad/angry is the fact that Ned probably will not have any damage from his behaviour: He probably got a huge lump sum for his stake in the company, Ariel will stay with him, cause she is a really good person and someone of his Yale friends will get him another high paying job. Sad but it is always how it works out

[@JudyCZ]

Well...he definitely loved being popular and all the attention that came with being the Try Guy. That's completely lost, he's nowhere to be seen, he hasn't become an influencer with his own brand or anything like that. Bet he misses that.

[@CarrotFlowers421]

Hilarious to me that KZbin journalists are still out here making bogus drama videos about how often the try guys “aren’t moving on” because of “all” the Ned “jabs” but you can’t even make an entire video compilation of them because they’re either extremely subtle or vague and there’s only been a very few.

[@lornadunes7850]

seriously, i had to kinda run deep into the podcasts for some of these but yeah the jokes really are few and far between

[@CarrotFlowers421]

@@lornadunes7850 they’ve shown absolutely remarkable forebearance and for anybody who says they need to get over it already, I literally have no idea what they’re talking about bc they’ve barely even eluded to it and the jokes are all very tasteful

[@jmason1770]

Some of the shade you won't even get unless you've been a fan for a long time for example the scale

[@CarrotFlowers421]

@@jmason1770 which exactly goes to show they are NOT rewarding "new fans" who have only come to their page after the drama, hoping for MORE Drama. Their jokes about this are for real fans which proves they are not rewarding the new found attention from ppl only looking for scandal. Most KZbinrs would cash in on the attention, even if it’s bad. They specifically did not do that.

[@unknown_limes]

Literally, they were mostly getting on their high horses bc of some dumb memes on Twitter, which... it's fkn Twitter, nothing on there matters in any real way. The people who are refusing to move on are drama channels bc they know it gets clicks

[@blackhoneyblossom]

You missed Keith's and Zack's exchange during backing when Zack was asking for some ingredient in exchange for a kiss and Keith was like "not in this working climate" or something😂😂😂😂

[@michelleshuart7864]

When everyone can finally say who their least favorite try guy was without consequences 👌👌👌

[@clarke6814]

I was just feeling sad that Ariel wouldn't be at Zach and Maggie's wedding

[@captainwatercress]

The fact that their channel is literally so much better now

[@Emma-gi5zi]

How so ? There have only been a few video releases since their video titled "What Happened". How did you come to the conclusion that the channel is much better. To me it still feels the same.

[@he.said.teenjiejer]

here to share a couple of gems from the trypod: the first was when rainie was put on the spot to create a theme song for a segment where zach pitched a bad show, and she came up with “bad ideas is a slogan(?) we don’t use anymore”. the second was when miles asked zach (in regards to his milk preferences) if soy was cancelled, and zach immediately entered pr mode, and then miles said, “we regret to inform you that soy is no longer a member of the try guys,” then followed it up by saying he’d cut it, to which zach said, “no, i thought it was clever, i just can’t comment on it”

[@mattersthatmatter7990]

And that is how Try Guys became the Tri Guys

[@rhs010]

They must’ve disliked Ned a little bit before all of that took place. It was way too easy for them to ostracize him. Imagine if it was Keith who cheated on Becky or Eugene cheated on Matt. I feel the other boys would react more sad and disappointed rather than pissed off and disgusted.

[@FullMoonOctober]

Probably still would have booted them if it had been an employee, though.

[@slime-time]

in retrospect the guys have always had such distinct personalities but ned was always just. the one with a bunch of shitty catchphrases and gimmicks (wife guy, yale degree, bad ideas etc) lmao like he genuinely brought nothing to the table

[@Updog89]

To be fair, he had a few other dimensions to him that were revealed if you looked closely. He was weirdly competitive with Eugene, sometimes to the point of thinly-veiled hostility. He was not as loving or interested in his pet as the other try guys. Even though he was the only one particularly interested in fatherhood, he had the hardest time in the Father’s Day episode where they had to watch toddlers. He went to an Ivy League and felt that this made him “the smart one” even though he makes objectively terrible choices. He had a personality, it just wasn’t a very good one and that’s why he relied so much on Ariel to seem interesting 😂.

[@halloweenallyearround4889]

Before the cheating with an employee news broke out I used to always feel bad for Ned. It seemed like he was super insecure (I mean to be fair all of the guys had/have their own insecurities just like every other person and it has been really nice to see them embrace and express themselves). And felt happy for him because sometimes it felt like he was finally exploring his feminine side, etc. But in the only couple of videos from before that I've been able to watch that include him (compilations and the one about Eugene's closet) it's painfully obvious that he was just repeating what the other guys said. Like an echo. Maybe he resented them. Envy could possibly hinder creativity. (Though , idk, maybe his jokes didn't make the final cuts). Edited to add: Also, Ned always stroke me as having two distinct "modes" and I'm sure a lot of people would agree. The one who fitted into negative stereotypes about spoiled frat boys and arrogant privileged people. And the "nerdy family man". I hope he was at least being honest about being a nerdy family man during his first years on YT. Though, yes, both "modes" were very obviously exaggerated personas.

[@lucystoner]

@Halloween All Year Round I always felt bad for Ned too. But that was as a viewer who assumed it must be tough to be the least funny in a comedy group, hence why he was trying different catchphrases and stuff. But because he was the least funny... the guys are fine without him. Lol, and he always did have a nasty streak. That's how as a fan I know he was a douche about the firing.

[@recoil53]

@@Updog89 I don't know how weird the competitiveness was. Ned formed TTGs, but he's not that good on camera. Eugene is. A lot of people get jealous in that situation, where they aren't the natural lead. He just couldn't accept that he's the guy who formed the Beatles and not even at the level of Ringo. He's an office guy

[@caithenry8429]

They really shed the dead weight and came back even better 🙌 here's to hoping Ariel will do the same

[@elisabethschmerzler963]

I guess you could say..they shed the Ned weight?

[@caithenry8429]

@@elisabethschmerzler963 omfg I love this. First Nedited and now this? I love how his legacy is shady puns

[@elisabethschmerzler963]

@@caithenry8429 Oh thank you! I was a bit nervous it wouldn’t land or was better in my head 😄 but yeah I really hope Ariel dumps his ass

[@caithenry8429]

@@elisabethschmerzler963 oh it absolutely landed! And please let 2023 be the year we hear she dumps his ass

[@CoRLex-jh5vx]

I hate how careful they have to be when talking about him but at the same time it is pretty hilarious that they’re all basically like "Well in my personal opinion that does not in any way reflect the views of my company; Ned fucking sucks"

[@AshAshVal]

You can tell the Try Guys were having a fall out with Ned way before this came to light, because when you're already on bad terms their actions become more irritating and other stuff you might've let slide for the sake of peace actually start to really affect you. Ned wasn't, from what I can see, a very good teammate or coworker and it almost feels like they let him stay this long because A) it was his old house they were using and B) they didnt want to create negative attention and ruin their image. Anyways, ned ruined it for everyone and I'm glad he's gone. Oh and I miss Ariel.

[@alex-rw2yg]

I love Rainie and Miles reacting the exact same way after Zach shading ned for not editing

[@colleendoucette124]

“somehow still fourth best” after the “no longer fourth best” is so funny poor zach 😭♥️

[@faithevans2573]

The editing of the elephant over ned is quite literally the greatest shade I have ever seen

[@AverytheCubanAmerican]

There is no Ned in Ba Sing Se. Same energy as Stalin removing Nikolai Yezhov from his photo...and I'm glad for that. Seriously, kudos to the editing team for doing God's work. This was not an easy task, but they went above and beyond! The editing of the elephant over Ned was the most exquisite shade of all. Ned was my favorite...NOT. Hated him with a burning passion. Like we get it, you're married, move on! I felt bad for Ariel, and the drama only confirmed why I felt that way. He just didn't fit in with the dynamic of the group. And him wearing that "I Love Bad Ideas" shirt in the Pop Tart one sure aged like fine wine

[@recoil53]

I won't say I guessed he was cheating. But I knew something wasn't right BECAUSE he always said he was married. He even did that before TTGs were formed. Happily married people don't keep saying it, you know? They just are. And in he departure video with BF, he was working with Kelsey - blonde like Ariel - and that made me think. (I'm not accusing Kelsey of anything, I was thinking he tried.)

[@JustLikeAFlower]

The editing YB & the team has done is amazing

[@missaniebananie6473]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="173">2:53</a> Eugene writes like a professional dancer learns, basically step by step until it is seemless

[@maddiemoiselle9998]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="28">0:28</a> "Somehow still fourth best" took me out 😭

[@starseer73]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="182">3:02</a> this SHOCKED me omg

[@mattieyoncha6243]

I still miss Ariel 😢 she was my favorite personality on the channel

[@MsAliciaRL]

Same. She's such a badass, and she even designed the Try Guys office. The sad truth is that we probably won't see her again. She can't come back if she stays with Ned, and if she leaves, being around the Try Guys may becomes a sore spot. And if she does come back, she may need to stay away from the comments, because she'll probably receive inappropriate comments from viewers.

[@caitlinb1657]

Looking back on the videos now that I know that they had problems with ned, I can totally see it and feel the vibe. I always liked Keith better anyways 🤣

[@AyAReI00]

I only like Keith and Eugene actually, NEVER liked ned cuz he acted SO force by maning her wife all the time, was SO annoying, that dude NEVER said ANYTHING besides "My wife " and the way who did the hair transplant acts SO childish like he thinks he is cute

[@Robb3636]

@@AyAReI00 I think Zach is cute :(

[@StephenTatlock]

the font thing actually took me out 😭

[@obscureoddity3071]

Honestly it seems that Ned was holding a lot of the guys back and wasn't putting his own bit into their videos. Like their content now seems so much more relaxed; less focused on what is popular or would get a lot of views and more on having fun and being themselves. And especially with Zach's comment about how Ned never edited the videos it just looks like Ned was that one bossy team mate that made everyone else do the work yet constantly criticised it we all had during group projects. That might just be how I see it though.

[@JMTan-dh2sv]

Hate to defend Ned on this part but I read he handled the finances? Apparently that's what he was good at, so while the other guys did edits he did the finances, to balance out the work. Read this in a comment on another video. (Not true if it's accurate though)

[@TinayBautista]

@@JMTan-dh2sva lot of people can do finances, there is an entire course and industry that literally teaches only that, easy to replace him. .. what generates the views (and therefore the revenue) is the quality and consistency of the videos - which seems Ned has very little contribution anyway..

[@recoil53]

@@JMTan-dh2sv He made his bones at BF being an office guy. And that is absolutely necessary. It's a business and has to be run that way.

[@recoil53]

@@TinayBautista Editors are easy to find too. I'm not defending him, but managing 20 people and making a profit aren't that easy. There are plenty of people with a business/accounting/finance background that will run a company into the ground.

[@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana]

@@TinayBautista Not to praise Ned, but just because you can do finances, doesn't make you good at it. Just like being able to cook doesn't make you as good a trained professional chef 🧑‍🍳.

[@WilhelmWilder]

I always had an iffy feeling about their chemistry with Ned, I liked him. But it seems now that they were just waiting for any good reason to cut him loose. And he handed them a gold mine

[@lucystoner]

I mean every Try Guys fan would openly admit Ned was the weakest link. So I knew they'd be okay.

[@WilhelmWilder]

@@lucystoner at some point I would have said Zach, but he's picked up a lot in the past few years

[@recoil53]

@@lucystoner Even before they went out on their own. But back then they would also do other stuff in the company as well as their own stuff. Being together just made that weakness worse.

[@funnygrl409]

Zac's "Somehow still the 4th best" fucking ruined me

[@arson8510]

I love that they are openly not supportive of it what so ever like they didn’t try to sugar coat it or even just ignore it they openly are like saying a huge F you

[@ArticBeauty]

Re: "you're scaring our judges" (last clip), I always felt that Ned yelling on Without a Recipe was 100% him just trying to copy Keith's (much funnier and more natural) jokey tantrums...

[@DisneyDahling]

I was recently rewatching some old try guys to see if Ned had something in him, instead I missed Eugene being in more videos😂

[@zelle8351]

They’re taking this whole thing like absolute champs. Good on them

[@KatBaumgarten]

I love the first Ned edit where they just straight up put an elephant in the room

[@zara.1212]

i just miss ariel, she really was the best part of him and it sucks so much that she got the worst deal from all this.

[@bo8jk]

You missed the part when someone on eat the menu told keith about how his dad was his moms boss and that they had to leave the company... Keith "oh we know all about this"

[@51Dutchman]

I just want to say, to anyone watching this, that if you found reasons to like Ned before the whole scandal blew up, then that’s okay and no one should make you feel bad for having liked him. That doesn’t say anything bad about you as a person or a judge of other people’s character. There were reasons that I liked watching him before all this came out, and it’s perfectly valid to both say that and be proud of the Tri-Guys for responding so well after they needed to move on from their former friendship with him.

[@disneymore7941]

"no one" Me, I'm the one who'll make you feel bad, because you're part of the problem. People in 30s Germany loved and followed Hitler, which helped him rise to power and dominate Europe. By supporting bad people and accepting toxic behavior (which lets be honest, Ned was filled with in the episodes he appeared in), you make the problem worse.

[@KirbyCom]

@@disneymore7941 Not everyone is great at spotting red flags or toxic behaviors, and even the Try Guys themselves thought he was a good person before. Chill out, Godwin's Law

[@GoddoDoggo]

@@disneymore7941 lmao "If you liked Ned before he was outed as a cheater than you're basically a Nazi." What the actual hell dude. Also this is super disrespectful to people who died in WWII and the Holocaust, so maybe find a less dramatic analogy, sheesh.

[@disneymore7941]

@@GoddoDoggo Ned was always toxic. And it's been revealed behind the scenes he's a bit of a dictator. No, it's not disrespectful. It's fitting. He's a wannabe dictator who got caught.

[@disneymore7941]

@@GoddoDoggo it's very easy to spot the red flags if you actually watched the vids. I didn't say you're a Nazi, I'm just saying you accepted his behavior as it was.

[@hell0mega]

i think it's truly amazing that ned didnt win a single WAR episode this season, i also know he was a part of the broadway episodes and can you IMAGINE if he won THAT?? the entire thing wouldve had to been scrapped

[@starrlinqs]

i’m a strong believer in the fact that n’s whole “my wife” shtick was to cover up what was going on at the time.

[@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana]

Or the cause of it. Keeping up the lie so much, made his mind glitch out, lose self control, and try to reconnect with his true self. Not enough to be non-culpable though. Plus, the lie was self made.

[@Lay-Z_Studios]

The SHADE Zach gave that hospital machine with "the" name was immaculate in his glass story vid

[@TheAjRae]

Oooooh I’ve never seen WAR for pop tarts!!! Yay thanks for the heads up !! :)

[@AnnaBell033]

On to bigger and better!

[@kewlgurlrockz]

We need more of these edits. It was so good hahs

[@bonzupippinpaddleoxacoppil484]

Good god I miss Ariel. Such a ray of sunshine.

[@seasmeseed33]

when i watched the new season of without of recipe i genuinely thought the elephant was a new fun thing the editors implemented and only figured out it was a cover up when i noticed the weird lighting during the judging segment 😭😭😭

[@cristiana_2945]

I wonder if ned still watches the try guys videos to see what he fumbled

[@joeym6658]

also, the i ❤ bad ideas tshirt being kept in is one of my favs

[@benjaminwelkens8118]

I've not watched a single try guys vid.. I'm not usually one for drama.. i found this thoroughly entertaining

[@Morgana191]

I’m just happy to see them enjoy KZbin again. They feel a lot happier and a lot more creative.