ok, let's talk about it. - The TryPod Ep. 181

[@eileenconway2966]

Let’s be clear, the try guys didn’t lose our trust, Ned did. We still love and support you guys.

[@moonlitsakurapetals2522]

Alex also lost our trust. But yes, the three try guys are not at fault.

[@rosehill9537]

This! We still trust the try guys the employees and Ariel. Sending love to them all. I won't add Alex as we dont know the whole story there. There was the boss employee factor so I'm careful on Her part in this atm.

[@cherrymilk5590]

@@rosehill9537 she absolutely was at fault. They worked at BF together when they were co-workers, and she is a full grown ass woman. They have been friends for years. There is a degree of a power imbalance there now, but she is far from innocent. Plus, she had a fiance who has to deal with this whole thing.

[@rosehill9537]

@@cherrymilk5590 i dont disagree. She has her responsibility for her actions. Im just being careful till all the facts are known.

[@cherrymilk5590]

@@rosehill9537 totally makes sense, I agree. I'm definitely more mad at ned since we know he's the worst but I don't wanna speculate

[@angelicvega7040]

Ned not old destroyed his career, his family, and his reputation, but he also indirectly broke Zach’s dishwasher

[@betatest5789]

NO NOT THE DISHWASHER

[@kelseyirene7620]

That was also my takeaway from the whole episode!!!

[@mintjuuz]

even the dishwasher was going through it

[@anniemal8030]

And gave him ants and Keith horse flies

[@confidentialcandidate8814]

Zach, send the dishwasher repair bill and the pest control bill (ya got ants) over to Ned.

[@KirlyGirl98]

This is the definition of men holding other men accountable and I am so proud of them for it.

[@theatticaddict]

Why y’all always gotta make it a gendered thing

[@libras_groove]

@@theatticaddict because so many men never have consequences or repercussions for their mistakes and actions. just look at hollywood as an example edit: for the people replying saying hollywood isnt the real world- while thats true, again its an example. ive been sexually assaulted by a man and this man has gone on to marry and live his life as if nothing happened, no accountability or repercussions whatsoever. this shit happens in the real world

[@mana-sx4xl]

@@theatticaddict bc some men tend to cover up for their buddies and downplay it

[@jspur22]

@@libras_groove Hollywood isn't real life lmfao. These dudes have know about it for over a year. Ned an Alex got caught by her boyfriend December of 2021. You can verify all of this.

[@theatticaddict]

@@libras_groove Agreed but that applies to women too

[@rockymaxwell]

Silver lining; The Try guys going from 4 to 3 makes more sense thematically. A Tryad, a Tryangle, a Tryfecta. A new era indeed.

[@lizxu322]

Literally, Trypod too

[@TheHugeDilEmma]

The tri guys

[@rqnbix4872]

@@TheHugeDilEmma yes!!

[@marcd2743]

I think you mean a threesome.

[@natoliven245]

fair BUT kwesi needs to be in the permanent cast like. rightnow

[@na3rial]

The fact that Zach was worried about Ned suing them if they did this "wrong" reveals to me something new about Ned that I'm not happy with

[@owenjames877]

exactly what i was thinking. what kind of friend sues another friend, even under these circumstances? wack.

[@areeanachowdhury9070]

They've been friends with Ned for literally over a decade and everything-

[@estefaniajuana9214]

Right? That would be some audacity.

[@anais4627]

Don't take this the wrong way, Ned actions are horrible. But as a lawyer he has the right to not be dragged to filth by a company he was a co-founder, so if they did a "dramagedon" he could sue. But still... Ned values are in the wrong place so maybe he just will sue them as a vengeance who knows

[@sarahbethh]

idk i don't buy this. i'm not trying to defend the guy at all and i'm not saying he's not a shitty person but like this is a big messy situation professionally/legally and even if he did go with grace the company still needs to be careful

[@christinasolomon6363]

Please don't stop doing Without a Recipe. Fill the fourth slot with a guest cook or a staff member and make it fun. Keith needs to get a season to bring back Daddy's Favorite

[@calyago3312]

please don’t cancel it 😢

[@QueYoshiyuki]

Give me Kwasi. I want to see that man panic cook with my WHOLE heart.

[@seannanana84]

I would love to see a guest each time it would be so fun!

[@kayteeftw]

Miles!! Add Miles to the roster!

[@gwensawicki9653]

YES

[@cammrose]

I feel like Zach, Keith and Eugene have set a new standard for how male managers respond to this kind of situation. I've seen so many sweep it under the rug, stand with their male colleague and force out the victim. The Try Guys have dealt this swiftly and with clarity

[@pavlinafricova2038]

Agreed, wholeheartedly, however, I think Alexandria is in no way a victim in this situation

[@cakes4494]

@@pavlinafricova2038 yeah the only thing i will say in her favor is that the power Dynamic did mean even if she wanted it badly it still isn't truly consent. There is always a power imbalance removing the consent. But for it to go on so long, i don't really thing this was something she didn't want.

[@painkiller6630]

Just release a new hit song Tell me what you think 🔥🌪️🔥

[@SilverstreamPJ28]

How is the mistress a victim 😭😭😭 y'all are disrespectful to actual victims of abuse

[@JudyCZ]

@@SilverstreamPJ28 Because she was a subordinate. The power imbalance matters and there's no way for us outsiders to be able to judge if there really wasn't any pressure from Ned being Alexandria's boss.

[@strawberrymelk9734]

their transparency caught me so off gaurd because KZbinrs *never* do that. huge respect to the tryguys team.

[@TheBiggestMoronYouKnow]

Didn’t they try to hide this whole thing. But only AFTER it blew up, they went out with it?

[@worrydarling]

@@TheBiggestMoronYouKnow I believe what they meant about that month they didn't disclose anything is because this involved a sexual relationship between a boss/owner and an employee, it became a more complicated legal issue than a let's be honest with our audience issue. It opens the entire company (not just Ned) open to sexual harassment lawsuits. They also have contracts with other companies that could void them if they think their company could be involved in said harassment lawsuits. One wrong move and they could have lost everything.

[@sammather8295]

That’s just how they are, they’re wonderful wholesome people who will stick to what they believe in. That’s why we all watch them right?

[@feefeesmomma]

@@grreeeeee this isn’t a scandal. It’s one guy who decided to cheat.

[@kimbettendorf3937]

@@TheBiggestMoronYouKnow They directly address this in this episode. When there is an internal investigation, you CAN'T talk about it while the investigation is still happening. There are legal ramifications and it could interfere with the investigation. So they addressed it immediately within the company. But couldn't talk about it publicly until everything was settled and actions had been taken.

[@andreamendez2295]

FOR THOSE ASKING ABOUT EUGENE: Eugene chose to step away from the podcast a long time ago. He is busy with personal projects and doesnt enjoy the open talk format because hes a more private person. His absence is not abnormal or a sign that hes leaving Try Guys. Just want to reassure people who don't usually follow the podcast and didn't know. This is normal.

[@GetPrettyWithPuff]

most definitely. just how he is

[@jewel8337]

omg thank u for this! i was so scared cause i thought eugene's gonna leave.

[@andreamendez2295]

@@jewel8337 I know it seems worrying for people who dont normally watch the podcast, but its all good :)

[@objectreborn.artsewing]

Thank you for that!

[@tofuteh2348]

Whats sad is that i had hope that he would come back to being a regular once he wae done with his projects, and he did say he liked being on the podcast but turns out he doesnt, or changed his mind. Ive always loved the episodes when eugene is on, especially keith + eugene episodes

[@abbysc417]

I know so many people have said this, but if anything the official response to Ned’s scandal has STRENGTHENED my perception of the Try Guys brand. I am even more proud to be a fan because of the professionalism, candor, and empathy expressed by the Try team.

[@MyFictionalChaos]

Yes, I just commented the same thing. If theyre worried about their brand they should know that this is one time when a scandal actually strengthens the brand. People have started watching try guys again and really appreciate the guys' handling of the situation

[@rachelpdmusic]

YES!

[@noeinroad7294]

Couldn't agree with you more. It's a difficult situation but they're dealing with it head on while still being respectful of the people involved.

[@Juliette055]

could not agree more, could not agree more. Couldn't have said it better myself

[@katieporter5582]

could not have said it better myself

[@annabelle8205]

as a pr student, this scandal would be an incredible case study judging by how calmly and professionally everything was handled.

[@I.YanaCeee]

Honestly! Yes!

[@annaskov5723]

Yeah. I'm not normally a Try Guys watcher. I've probably watched 4 of their videos ever, but I've been watching a little bit because they handled this so well, from both a PR and an ethical standpoint, and I think that should be rewarded

[@ingridtedjakumala9494]

don't t hink that the guys would even think of 'this case' to be the one to use as case study..

[@W.Rain.]

Unfortunately in real life even from a pr perspective rare are the cases where being definitive is a possibility. (I've worked both full time and part time in pr for the past 10 years, mostly public organizations, some none profits and a startup or two in crisis)

[@roshill2010]

Yeah definately go from all Sides. Ned for being a Hypocrite, Alex Herring for opening her legs even after knowing everything about Ned and his marriage, Ned's wife for not satisfying him maybe?... And their overall we love each other sabang selling BS to everyone. Both Ned and His wife Scammed millions. The reality is most men just wanna spread their lovin and can never be satisfied with one woman. Selling this BS not only harms the people getting into marriage but, only makes them see one side. I believe in Polygamy myself. But, the dude just had to honest and let the people know he wants a main and a couple of sides. Honesty. Horrible people all of em covered in a web of lies. Hope these pointers get you started in that case study of yours. Just be careful not to add the Polygamy part. It's not main stream enough and can get you cancelled. Free speech is slowly dying.

[@awhyeahblondiesyeah]

I like that theyre leaving the door open for Ariel.

[@kstormgeistgem461]

it reminds me so much the male characters in old movies... where they'd rally around those in need and protect them when they were at their most vulnerable.

[@syra1541]

​@@kstormgeistgem461try guys are all about that positive masculinity

[@rebeccakeld1338]

​@@syra1541❤

[@d.aliceden3095]

Man the complete irony of how careful you had to be in dealing with this situation compared to just how careless Ned was is unreal.

[@amberg4539]

100% this

[@R.444-]

and the audacity for him to copy the font for his notes app ‘apology’ after it all 😭

[@adda312]

So so true and just shows you who the real pros are in this company

[@saintc7790]

It is wild, but, that’s usually how it goes. Ik it’s corny, but that phrase about the way to destruction being wide and shit, kinda rings true here.

[@snoozyq9576]

guess that's why he's the one in this mess!

[@TheCatie]

Huge props to Zach for going to that wedding for Maggie because he didn’t want her to have to face the drama alone. A+ fiancé move.

[@hernameispekka_Rebecca]

I agree!

[@rosehill9537]

@Murphi 1000% it was just natural for Zack. Not a put on for the camera.

[@tholla10]

Since day one I have gravitated toward Zach, he is so honest and sweet its not for show and the little potty mouth on him is almost endearing.

[@maureen2193]

+10 fiance points for Zach and -100 husband points for Ned

[@danielaarana4008]

Time stamp?

[@cernunnos6668]

Ned always said he was the one to handle things on the business end, but Zach seems a lot more professional than people give him credit for

[@jess3843]

i think he took credit for business end as a whole when he was mainly in charge of finance

[@krissyrific]

@@jess3843 100% agree with you. I felt that in the documentary - Zach and Keith came across leaders who cared for this company and it’s long term success.

[@havenprice]

@@jess3843 tbh when i think about the past vids, there was one where he called himself the party planner but then halfway through he said he just took credit for the parties his wife threw. Same for cooking and caring for kids though i think the disparity there wasnt so stark. But same thing, he is the kind to take credit for others works.

[@GeekChicPolitiq]

I'm feeling Zach really hard here; I don't tend to come across as professional day-to-day but when shit goes down at work I come to the fore.

[@fc7307]

@@jess3843 He was in charge of finance, which makes things worse since he might have expensed his dates under the company's dime. I have no proof of this of course but it is a huge possibility.

[@catma9695]

crazy how it’s been a WHOLE YEAR since the scandal that broke the internet

[@PosaPunto]

And Ariel still didn't divorce Ned. I don't know how she had the patience to deal with him for a whole year.

[@syra1541]

it was actually such a shock to the system

[@tirkdiamond]

​@@PosaPuntoI think they're sticking together and they're trying to make it work

[@quantummidget]

​@@PosaPunto Wes. They have a kid together and many people would try to work it out instead of have their child grow up in a broken home

[@PosaPunto]

@@quantummidget A marriage with parents with a broken relationship where the mother is unhappy IS a broken home. Anyone who have respect for themselves would have a divorce and wouldn't be a bad example for their children. You cheat, you have consequences. That's what the children should have seen but now they are going to be like their father when they grow up because they are going to see first hand that women always forgives men no matter what they do for their children. Now they are going to think they can do anything because they will not going to have any consequences. That kind of family is the worst.

[@oOoMiSSBiRDoOo]

The amount of adults claiming to "not understand" why he was fired is alarming. Read your Employee Handbooks people!

[@emmanights7599]

Fr my partner thought it was insane he was fired till he read that it was with his employee he was like 😮 I see 😂

[@annettey4799]

They didn't know it was an employee and founder of the company whose brand was being a loving husband and father.

[@MotoCurvesCurls]

Exactly!!!! Most companies it is listed several times to sink in!!! It literally is a big deal and really frowned upon. The military will dishonorably discharge you over this same issue.

[@oOoMiSSBiRDoOo]

@@annettey4799 I guess I should have specified that I meant the adults in the comments.

[@vee6802]

Where they at? Let's talk about these alarms.

[@laikyn533]

“Almost like a trauma” As a therapist, I’d say this absolutely WAS a trauma. Someone that you trusted and love did something horrible that not only risked your livelihood, but it severely harmed you and people you love. It also led to you having to take on a huge burden of responsibility to clean up the mess. It absolutely is a trauma and you shouldn’t ever feel like you need to downplay it. It’s okay to feel traumatized by everything.

[@seannanana84]

Yea I was like bros this is trauma!! It's ok to process it as such!

[@cheyennecuevas3226]

@im sacred ..potatoes?

[@AstarionWifey]

@@seannanana84 that’s why I’m wondering Why didn’t they validate their own pain 😢

[@weebabyshakeus]

It’s not. Please stop.

[@Garsnoos]

@@weebabyshakeus You do not get to tell other people that what they went through isn’t traumatic or valid. It’s not your business to invalidate people and their feelings. Don’t be a gatekeeping a-hole

[@mahikapatel9365]

Personally, I really respect Keith, Zach, and Eugene for stepping up, holding Ned responsible, and being so professional in this whole situation.

[@-hosanna8703]

Hello all! Just spreading the good news. God so loved the world that He gave His One and Only begotten Son, that whosoever shall believe on Him will not perish, but have eternal life. Those who do not have saving faith in Jesus will be condemned. (John 3:16) He died for our sins, and took the punishment for our sins. However, the grave couldn't contain Him. He rose from the grave and now lives forevermore, and seeing we have saving faith in Him, we too will live forever with Him! Please turn to Him today, time is short. His peace is something the world can't give (John 16)

[@chalapathiraoy5898]

@Chad 007 r V

[@Ayse-ms9ud]

what's about Alex?

[@Ena48145]

Absolutely

[@mahikapatel9365]

@@Ayse-ms9ud they can’t take action against her because she was subordinate, but she’s equally responsible for this. She threw away an 11 year relationship to be with a married man.

[@CatGreenfield]

"I think the stages of grief... I think they're a circle." - Keith. This is awful. Such a betrayal of trust. So much love to Ariel and the babies, to the Try Team, and to the remaining Guys.

[@mariee.5912]

He's joking but it's a circle.

[@blushandberries624]

It is often talked about as a circle in psychology

[@danny2481]

As a psychologist, Keith is correct. Grief is not linear, limited by time, and not truly 5 stages. That was more of a loose guideline by Kübler-Ross. It is definitely a spectrum and has infinite variations with infinite emotional/physical/spiritual phases.

[@deanmcmurph9234]

@@danny2481makes a lot of sense. My mom died 3 years ago and some days are fine and some are still like it just happened yesterday.

[@emilymoore2162]

I was in the middle of a class when the news broke and a girl stopped class and told everyone out loud and it was genuinely like absolute chaos in this upper level college seminar. You guys have made quite the impact on my generation.

[@dysmissme7343]

I really respect how they take that impact seriously 💜

[@graceelliot3959]

Ha SAME

[@Itsgoldengirloz]

Fr the talk of the day at my job today haha

[@CrustyUgg]

That's pathetic.

[@jordynsaxe8191]

Same thing happened with me and my friends except we are all teachers now and found out during planning

[@extra4542]

I truly don’t think this makes the Try Guys look bad. It only makes NED look bad. The rest of you have handled this with grace. And your first statement video was the best response to a scandal I’ve ever seen on KZbin. It felt genuine and sincere

[@amberg4539]

Totally agree

[@derp195]

Yeah, I think that must be a product of all of the internet drama hitting them really hard. Definitely doesn’t make them look bad at all.

[@ZaynMalik-sq2li]

All the hard work with lawyers for an entire month has definitely payed off 👏🏼

[@julv5767]

It’s important for them to handle it well - because they were a team and need to solidify that they’re brand doesn’t stand for Ned’s behaviour

[@sarah.supernova]

100%. They’ve handled it so well on all fronts. This will definitely be used as a case review in future PR classes.

[@MollyBurkeOfficial]

I know my opinion doesn't matter, but as someone who has known you guys for years and recently filmed a video with you... I am so proud of you. You truly all have handled this with such professionalism, respect, and dignity. From your honesty, to the heartfelt nature you've shared this with... you are amazing. Well done in the face of this horrible situation.

[@kensingtonmckenna7355]

love you molly!!! thank you for saying what needed to be said!!! love your inspiring sweet content, keep going!!!

[@breezy-duz-it]

Omg hi Molly! Couldn’t agree with you more, in the face of all of this I’m even more proud to be a fan of them and I’m excited for the future ❤

[@tonijackson8162]

love u ❤

[@valeriasidon8655]

Molly! No getting down on yourself! Your opinion SO matters!

[@sydneyv.7798]

You’re the best Molly!

[@Maymer]

"it was a workplace violation and that's that" this is just like a beautiful summary of how great zach is in this video. His usual video personality is kind of goofy and it was so nice to see the absolute practical Boss Style come out, really well done

[@Pt-11]

This past week has solidified my opinion of Eugene, Zach, and Keith. 3 stand up human beings who, in the face of adversity, held strong to the values they said they have over the past 8 years.

[@hereisahuman5977]

@RR ...No shit, let it die

[@Lemit]

TRI GUYS TRI GUYS TRI GUYS

[@sodeiku]

opinions changes

[@regal222]

Don’t worry everyone though Ned was a stand up guy too LOL

[@SnakeEnthusiast]

Zach’s little “leave our fucking staff alone” made me so happy. The fact that one of their focuses is the safety and respect granted to their staff in the midst of all of this is amazing to me. I loved it, even more than most anything else that was said. I’ve always loved you guys, and I’ll continue to.

[@Laura-Yu]

“Leave our staff alone” does that include Alex? Was she not fired? How come they’re still following her on Instagram?

[@patricia_seraphine]

@@Laura-Yu I don't know, I mean even if she did something shitty as well, they still keep in touch with each other. Yes she got remove from the try guys and sabotage her own career and the company's success. Apparently, she doesn't have a say so in the success of the try guys company. It is pretty obvious.

[@patricia_seraphine]

But that doesn't mean you can say shitty things to their staff, even if they not part of the try guys anymore. Respect still remains, as well as respect for their privacy and not some false conspiracy that people concoct on the internet.

[@giangtran-to6tb]

ok

[@ashenrose2262]

​@@Laura-Yu if they fire her she can sue them for all they're worth. even if they wanted to they can't

[@britainfannatic]

This was the most “not messy” piece of drama I’ve ever seen and it’s very refreshing to see people act like grown adults when dealing with it. You guys are awesome.

[@Brunette007]

Could someone please tell me why they felt the need to distance themselves from Ned? I know he cheated, but does their contracts say they need to stay out of drama?

[@IsaVarg]

@@Brunette007 They mention in the episode that what Ned and Alex did was a workplace violation. Ned was Alex's boss, a CEO of the company, and them "dating" is a huuuuge mess for the company. For HR, PR, and workplace morale, it just doesn't make sense to keep them around. Not to mention how everyone around them feels about there being a company scandal, two friends ruining very long relationships, etc.

[@crystalmasters8582]

Right, they are staying away because he lied to them too and risked all of their financial lives.

[@ashlelane23]

I absolutely love the compassion they have

[@RandomGlow444]

@@crystalmasters8582 yes! literally their livelihoods. Sponsorship deals cancelled their new network tv show, done. Hopefully everything is going to be okay. But who know if their was a lawsuit if they would’ve survived the legal fees /settlement. He literally put everything for everyone on the line. NOT TO MENTION the employees at 2nd try LLC that would lost their jobs as well

[@hungryhungryhippocampus7889]

adult friendship loss is trauma like no other. would love to hear y'all explore it more-there's not tons out there

[@SuperAmaku]

So true!! I understand the topic is still fresh and they might not want to go into details, but I would love to hear more about friendship loss having experienced it myself

[@rachellenoir2072]

I second that. It’s so painful, and there is so little sad about it.

[@Blue-mi1yh]

That’s bullshit

[@yossarian00]

That's not what trauma is.

[@domeatown]

Straight up. At this point they are almost like siblings. There was a time they'd spend like 24 hours a day sleeping and eating together. This is a family breakup, and yeah. It is genuinely traumatizing. The things they are describing is my descent when my dad died. It must be very traumatic. Because whether or not I know what they are feeling, I certainly know the signs.

[@lchaddy9013]

I reported the assistant manager at my old job for constant sexual harassment to the owner/gm of the store, and he asked me if I “really want to ruin his career”. Glad to see how you guys handled everything.

[@tyronesebastian9151]

same thing happened to me too at my first job when I was 16. they didn’t believe me at all and thought I just wanted a promotion or something 🙄 like no I just don’t want to work with a 35 year old pedophile. turns out he was a repeat sex offender and child predator 😳

[@llamamama2910]

It’s not ruining a career-it’s holding people responsible-they need to be placed away from the victim and find work elsewhere. They have shown they cannot be trusted to treat their coworkers with dignity and true comraderie-they viewed the victim as a personal resource to use or tease or belittle or power play or enjoy rather than as a colleague, realizing they are both company resources and no boundaries should be broken.

[@peperjuise]

So sorry you went through this love, sending you a big hug. I really hope that person gets what they deserve.

[@tyronesebastian9151]

@@llamamama2910 exactly!! beautifully written! I hope you’re doing much better now, sending love to you

[@michelealoia1320]

He ruined his career not you.

[@ghostie6190]

I really love that they are so defensive and protective of their staff. People deserve their privacy especially if they aren't public figures.

[@jaywenang2638]

Gotta love the tri guys

[@unknownperson8527]

@@jaywenang2638 you really liked that name huh? 😭🤣

[@santiagonunez6294]

Neds net worth is 10mill Zach and Keith are 2m each. That's why they blowing this out of proportion.

[@kactus1889]

@@santiagonunez6294 I hope Ariel takes his money lol

[@Ariplaygames]

@@santiagonunez6294 its absurd to take internet estimations of famous peoples networth as true. Also, even if it were true, him not being part of the company completely destroys most of his network. Also, they arent blowing anything out of proportion.

[@itsthetraumaforme1456]

Fuck yeah to Eugene not doing the podcast because he doesn’t want to! Like, that’s my favorite part of this. I love the guys doing things they love and that are good for them, and if the pod doesn’t serve Eugene then so be it. This brought me so much joy for some reason.

[@Fragglerocker93]

I read a comment the other day that got me thinking about Eugene’s response and not being on the podcast: Eugene was not a kid/baby person, but when he had the opportunity to be around Wess when he was still a baby and be a part of his life, that changed Eugene’s perspective. Additionally, he grew really close to Ariel as well, and you can see that closeness in the videos with them together. There’s another level of betrayal Eugene is feeling, in addition to what everyone else is feeling: This person whom he had been friends with for over a decade, and let him be a part of his family, broke his heart. That’s just my take on it.

[@paigerinker7384]

Same - made me so happy!! Honestly, I had stopped watching the tripod and came back for the drama... But, one thing that had made me stop was how forced it seemed in some aspects, and I think a big part of that is it not serving Eugene. So I am excited to tune in more.

[@nyocx]

dude knew he couldnt say anything nice and dipped. respect for that.

[@moonyrancher984]

He was so pissed in that video 😭

[@eros4434]

I couldn’t agree more, but I came here to say your username made me scream laugh. Thank you for that internet stranger.

[@spainbarcafootyfan]

If this is how much the guys suffered through this, just imagine what Ariel must be going through.

[@ahhhhhhh1407]

Not just Ariel, but their children to, that's a hard thing to explain to your kids. :(

[@jagkreeks9201]

And Will!! A lot of people fail to mention Alex's ex fiancé and that's sad. She ruined a 10 year long relationship. I wish Ariel, Will, the kids and the try guys the best.

[@munmun07]

@@ahhhhhhh1407 yes poor kids. they are so little and so much is going on. when they grow up it will be hard for them. imagine your father having affair and whole internet talking about it

[@sirenlucy932]

@@munmun07Ned had an affair while being married? He used to say „My wife“ so often and I got the impression that he was absolutely crazy about Ariel. I would have never imagined him doing something like that. Never in a million years.

[@aziraphaleluvr]

I gotta say, as a marketing student, this entire thing and how you guys handled it will serve as an example on HOW TO DO THINGS CORRECTLY.

[@torontoenvironment9899]

wtf does marketing have to do with this

[@lenaelisabeth]

How you market your self and company with pr and hr is really important after controversy

[@l_a_u_y8916]

I disagree. They could have handled it without the drama and without the apology videos to the fans or whatever, looks weird

[@JD-uo4yh]

EXACTLY, it's essential that you upload a monetized podcast episode about the situation as soon as possible.

[@ailliar3287]

@@l_a_u_y8916 I don't know. Like they said in the podcast, the internet was going to find the evidence and put the pieces together anyway, and with the way it blew up like it did it would be irresponsible to not address it with transparency. Sweeping it under the rug and quietly getting rid of ned would have sparked more questions and controversy, and likely put a more negative spotlight on the company as a whole

[@beyedoc]

The amount that Keith expressed being afraid of hurting other people is so contrary to Ned's behavior of just how many people he hurt.

[@mirrrstery]

Spot on 👏🏼 ned is a selfish pig

[@alexisdamico738]

Honestly just the comment he made of feeling bad about how he killed a fly just strengthened my opinion that the other try guys would never do something this distasteful

[@beyedoc]

@@alexisdamico738 Very true. While I was shocked about everything coming out, I have been turned off by Ned for awhile for aggro behavior and some potentially problematic, most-likely-to-have-masculinity-issues behavior in more casual situations like the Trypod. I will continue to support Keith, Eugene, and Zach and this opportunity for growth, change, and longevity of the channel and brand.

[@alexisdamico738]

@@beyedoc me and my roommate both said when it all came out that Ned had been bothering us for awhile and had no clue why really💀💀so glad it wasn’t just us

[@Olivia-pm1ch]

@@alexisdamico738 same!! I wasn’t always sure what it was. I felt Ned was hiding something. I’m gonna be completely honest I thought he was gay possibly. Maybe I just got feminine vibes at the time but looking back I just felt like he was hiding something and potentially overcompensating with how much he’d talk about Ariel

[@laurentuck7835]

For the record, we haven’t lost trust in you guys. We lost trust in Ned. We still love and support the try guys. You did everything right ❤

[@painkiller6630]

Just release a new hit song Tell me what you think 🔥🌪️🔥

[@ninachand2075]

Yes....👏👏👏

[@BaronVonBielski]

You trusting Ned and then him cheating on his wife is exactly why you shouldn’t trust the rest of them. YOU do not know these people, they do not know you. They could all be serial cheaters and you’d have no idea. Blindly believing and trusting something someone famous says is the dumbest thing any human could do above the age of 12.

[@ook4698]

@@BaronVonBielski my god, have some faith dude. we cant like people? lol

[@andreamckenzie8598]

@@BaronVonBielski Knowing them or not changes nothing. You could know someone for years, dearly, and trust them fully based on their actions around you; then still be betrayed by them if it turns out they've been making shitty choices you weren't aware of. It's happened to all of us. You either choose to trust human beings based on actions or you live the miserable life of trusting no one and expecting betrayal and deceit, regardless of their closeness to you; the kind of thing an edgelord 12yo or a deeply disturbed adult would argue for. But they did the right thing and there's no reason to lose trust in them over this action. When they pull bullshit like Ned did, then losing faith makes sense.

[@jwidelski3698]

I really hope Ariel sticks around. The Try Moms trying things has really helped me personally in the issues I have developed since becoming a mom as well. She and the other try moms gave me some more happiness and confidence in myself.

[@keianao6369]

Technically the other ones are try wives, as they don't have children, only Ariel does. But I completely agree, they should definitely keep the podcast. Especially now more than ever when I think Ariel needs the most support and to surround herself with positive, caring people like Becky and Maggie!

[@jwidelski3698]

@@keianao6369 no, I wasn't talking about Becky and Maggie. I was talking about the newer segments they were doing called the try moms specifically made for women with children. Thanks.

[@EliSeventhRose]

Rachel has been producing them and I love seeing her on the other side of the camera I hope Ariel keeps featuring but more Rachel too! And maybe Kwesi’s wife!

[@munmun07]

@@keianao6369 they did motherhood things and were called try moms. i think you don't watch many videos maybe and came here commenting and made a fool of yourself

[@entamology581]

@@munmun07 fam do you need to talk? why so riled up

[@sophie9537]

zach singing "you betrayed me, and i know that you'll never be sorry" was like a stab in the heart

[@ACasualTrevor]

It’s literally just an Olivia Rodrigo song. Not that deep

[@thuwsaysdearry]

@@ACasualTrevor it has meanings bro

[@ACasualTrevor]

@@thuwsaysdearry sure it has a meaning, doesn’t mean it’s meaningful.

[@danielalorbi]

@@ACasualTrevor damn, that's deep.

[@Absbabs88]

Oh, so it was Zach he cheated on? I missed that part.

[@pjperdue1293]

In my life, I've never seen celebrities publicly handle an internal scandal so professionally. And I'm over 60. Your honesty, discretion and transparency are commendable. As a long-time fan I'm looking forward to seeing what new content you come up with.

[@awesomeraingirl]

As someone with 35+ less years of experience as you, it's great to hear your perspective and also so heartily agree with you. I used to watch the try guys when I was a teenager, and their professionalism and integrity in handling this situation has led me back to their content as an adult. I think it just goes to show that these Guys are timeless. Their personalities, growth, and actions are relatable to all of us. Life is just taking what comes at us the best we can at the time.

[@Illumiloni]

tbf, i think its probably easier when you yourself weren't the person that did something wrong. I don't think ned will ever live this down LMAO

[@ALittleToTheLeft42]

Don't act like they fired Ned for any reason than to preserve their careers, they only did it after the drama came out, the actual event happened nearly a year ago.

[@lauraelenaaguirre2966]

I like that they respect that Eugene doesn’t enjoy the podcast and that’s ok! I enjoy just these three plus the guests, when Eugene does stop by it’s because he really wants to be there.

[@estefidiago]

I love that they respect his space and his decision, but you´re so right on this!

[@k3a443]

wait why doesn't eugene like the podcast?

[@AnnyJotto]

@@k3a443 he doesn't enjoy *doing* it and he doesn't really need a reason, it's not our place to speculate either

[@layoverbear]

@@k3a443 maybe he's just not a podcast fan!

[@0x13horizon4]

@@k3a443 I’m guessing he wouldn’t want to make public statements that people can misconstrue or judge publicly. That would be my guess

[@HollyTrinnity]

This gives such a good example of healthy masculinity because they’re being human, they’re being vulnerable. Thank you guys for being the KZbinrs we all love and deserve

[@scentist_error]

Bruh, the only comment you got is a f*cking bot. Allow me to change that and say that you're absolutely right, and I hope that many young teens will take these men as an example. The Try Guys deserve happiness, and Ned deserves the karma for hurting Ariel and putting his best friends' careers at risk.

[@kinzcash]

A lot of soccer matches will call their fans “the 12th man.” We’re all now your 4th Try Guy. We are here cheering you on and so proud of you all for the dignity and professionalism you have shown.

[@rebeccaq7291]

I loved this ❤

[@sunnydazewithtessa22]

omg yes I love that!! ❤

[@alnabulsi313]

Omg this is perfect

[@Silvercityab]

Seahawks

[@e.h.4499]

+

[@fzzypurpleturtle]

It sounds like Zach has really stepped tf up in this whole thing. Not that Eugene and Keith didn’t, but just the way he spoke it was like “wow, you’ve been through it!”

[@ShrooMIR05]

In the beginning they mentions how Zach was the only one present at the office since Eugene and Keith were away doing their own things. I can imagine the sheer amount of stressed to handle that firsthand while your co owners are away.

[@lorensolomon1419]

He’s always been a strong person within their company in the background. He overworks himself. He just never asks for praise.

[@MyFictionalChaos]

^^ yeah he HAD to. I feel for him

[@thatgirl9532]

Well it seemed like Keith and Eugene were quite busy and Zach had to be the guy to do shit to protect their company what a guy!

[@thatgirl9532]

@@lorensolomon1419 Yeah he doesn’t really get a lot of opportunities unlike Eugene or Keith I really hope a film/television company decided to release his film or show he wrote

[@Tinkerbellprincess2]

I love how Zach gets choked up talking about Becky and how much she's helped him. I freaking love Becky

[@michyx2732]

yess

[@ddieter603]

Becky has grown in my esteem exponentially.

[@pickle_spears]

hope they don’t get too close /j

[@Okk681]

@@pickle_spears it’s fine, their marriage is so healthy and stable that it’s totally ok for becky to have really good guy friends. Plus Zach also has a lovely girlfriend he clearly loves a lot

[@PepsiMagt]

I am sure that Becky has helhed Zach in many ways and in many different positions. That apparently is the office culture.

[@alisterling499]

Listening to this again a year later, I have to say this channel has only gotten better. I hope the trajectory continues, and that you guys have so much success moving forward!!!

[@abigailsnail7]

Only thing I really miss is Ariel 😢 Hope she's doing well! She's so lovely, I hope maybe she gets her time to shine again or maybe she's done with the internet forever, in which case, I respect that too. Just sending her my best wishes

[@X5129X]

I can see that Eugene is still on house arrest so he doesn’t kill Ned but huge respect to all of the tri guys and their team

[@emily2202]

LMAAOOOOO

[@X5129X]

@@emily2202 that mans face in the what happened video has gone viral like I’m expecting news headline: Eugene from try guys confesses to murder of Cheating ex try guy Ned Fulmer, he walks away from court a free man

[@beesbrownies]

house arrest 😭😭😭

[@rekyu3d541]

@@X5129X spinoff idea: the Try Guys try crimes of passion

[@MissCaraMint]

Not house arrest. More mandatory home relaxation.

[@Darbae7]

Keith Zach and Eugene has set the standard for all brands now. To handle something so awful with grace and compassion is amazing. I still love you guys. You didn’t loose my trust. Ned did

[@anselenriquez1191]

*lose

[@rainearbuckle]

​@@anselenriquez1191 read the room 😐

[@dahlia6457]

@@rainearbuckle read this ratio

[@iaminsideyourhome69]

@@dahlia6457 no

[@tylerjackson1806]

@@dahlia6457 HA

[@theamazingalex99]

This is the perfect example of actions having consequences, the domino effect. Ned’s actions not only hurt him, but his family, his friends, and his career. The Tri guys have handled this so well, great job guys.

[@aprileatsguilty]

Now we need to find out what consequences are being experienced by Alex for her own actions.

[@CJMGalaxy]

@@aprileatsguilty we likely never will, unless she chooses to talk about it herself. A, this is a hell of a tricky legal situation, and B, the guys have too much class for that and are likely to handle that part of the equation quite privately.

[@ClarityEmerald]

The Tri Guys(!!!!)

[@nikachinful]

@@meggggg yep. you can see it in keith's face how dumbfounded he is by Ned's actions. absolutely destroyed.

[@biancabarbulescu7504]

@@ClarityEmerald honestly this would be a nice name change into the new era. As they said it would still feel familiar but bc it would only be the three of them it would also signify change

[@lizoliver6193]

I feel like Ned really stunted the brand. Already, in just a few months their content has been SO much better and so different. I love it! 😁

[@calsrestarea]

I totally agree. It just feels more positive and light??

[@sharpaycutie2]

I don’t know you personally and not trying to, but I feel like a lot of people love bringing up the whole I never like that person anyway talk whenever something controversial comes out about them and all of a sudden people all of a sudden are in lightened by these newfound suspicions but ours ago before this controversial even happened people were over here saying I love this person. He’s cool they’re great nerds, my favorite blah blah blah I just think it’s really interesting when all of a sudden somebody has something bad come out about them whether it’s true or not, all of a sudden people want to ride the heat train, and all of a sudden people have all this on bridal heat for this person that could not be found it anywhere prior to the controversial action.

[@calsrestarea]

@@sharpaycutie2 Honestly my dislike for him comes gradually. I got in to the try guys around 2016/2017 ish then they went to make their own company. I used to think “Ah, maybe Ned’s just like this” but time after time I find him annoying and a few times I got so jumpy because of what he said and how he reacted

[@megan-wl1ym]

@@sharpaycutie2i think it's interesting bc when this first came out i was extremely in denial but it definitely added up later that i didn't like him as much as i thought LMAO but i get what you're saying

[@NuriaLuria]

Yeah I'm able to watch them again

[@zachariahorion]

Zach about to make me cry with "if we had an impact on your life, you're allowed to feels sad" makes me feel like we are family bro

[@FoxNimbus]

This. I got agonizing family news right after and I NEVER let my parents see my cry, but I shattered. And I KNEW it was because I see these men as family so this....this hurts. I am grieving with Eugene, Keith, and Zach, and everyone else.

[@fruitypeebils]

parasocial relationships weird me out

[@khiaratt]

😭😭😭😭

[@thebarefoothobbit]

I actually was sad the entire day after the news came out. Nothing unrelated to my personal life has ever affected me like this did.

[@titusorelius9458]

You are NOT their family and they do not care about you like that.

[@owenandrew7951]

This is such a healthy conversation between men about their mental health and as a man who struggles sharing with other men, I really appreciate it

[@mm-b8012]

I feel like they have always been such a wonderful example of men being able to open up to each other and be emotionally vulnerable. That’s one of the reasons I loved watching them. The way they’ve handled this situation has just solidified that for me.

[@crizx.x97]

I'm so happy to hear that you feel safe enough to share this with all of us. Thank you truly. You are not alone.

[@indigoginzo9843]

Ghey

[@esobelisk3110]

@@indigoginzo9843 that’s nice

[@caseywhite3150]

These are not men lol these are soy boys

[@rowni]

The Try Guys are probably one of the most professional, self aware and mature content creation companies I've seen. Its like a breath of fresh air of how well they've handled everything. Its nice to see Keith and Zach vent out their stresses and emotions after the fact while staying composed and well spoken.

[@santiagonunez6294]

Neds net worth is 10mill Zach and Keith are 2m each. That's why they blowing this out of proportion.

[@amycastillo4626]

@@santiagonunez6294 They lost a friend. He betrayed their trust and abused his power in the workplace.They are allowed to feel however they want

[@magnum_cx8805]

@@santiagonunez6294 Aren’t you bored of spamming yet? Report them for spam please everyone.

[@nikolatovar9884]

@@magnum_cx8805 Yeah, they sound like an unsophisticated bot. Barely coherent sentence structure and keeps repeating itself. Reported the bot.

[@kellishines]

I went to Lewberger 9/10 and I have to say, I noticed Keith was upset. I even asked my s/o if he expected him to be more into it and animated. He was a good person to meet, but reserved. Now I realize he was obviously dealing with this and was doing the best he could and I don't like myself for judging his state of mind that night.

[@weluvb5]

I was never attached to Ned like I am with Keith, Eugene, and Zach; they all had different layers to their personality and Ned was just one-dimensional. I give my respect on how this was handled; as should every business. Also shame on SNL for that poor skit.

[@ginao6810]

The SNL skit was the most “OK Boomer” thing I’ve ever seen. So out of touch, so smug, old men protecting men from the repercussions of their shitty actions.

[@athaya2992]

@@girlgreenivy lowkey thats what i feel as well. couldnt imagine try guys without keith... :(

[@A_blue_Sky]

the fact that the guys tried their best to process this as carefully as ever because they didn't want to be sued by Ned tells me that Ned would actually sue them if he could.

[@amy3971]

This. When this has all died down, I would love to ask them if they genuinely thought Ned would sue, or outright said he would!

[@deltaloraine]

@@amy3971 honestly I could see him doing it if he had the opportunity. He’s losing his career, his marriage is on the brink, and his friendship with the guys sounds like it’s broken beyond repair. He doesn’t really have much else to lose, but could have had something to gain if this was handled poorly.

[@amy3971]

@@deltaloraine I think you’re absolutely right sadly.

[@GardeninGrace]

@@deltaloraine that’s not even considering his major ego, wanting to be the center of attention, etc. so if he falls of and is irrelevant, he may want to stir the pot.

[@nancythomas5387]

They did handle it beautifully, and I don't think we could count on Ned's remaining brain cells to realize that a court case would destroy any good reputation he might have left...lawsuits are public record! He'd never work again.

[@extras19]

I'm glad they're transparent about Eugene being absent because he doesn't care for doing podcasts. It shows their commitment to as much transparency as possible while also showing they're not torturing themselves to fit into the old mold. Personally I'm very excited to see the new era of Try Guys.

[@unidentifieduser]

not "because he doesn't care" but more like he couldn't do it too often anymore because of how open you have to be and there are just things he didn't want to share

[@dydylee27]

@@unidentifieduser not "caring for" something is different from not "caring about" something. It just means you don't have a particular like for something

[@princessaria]

@@unidentifieduser They said because he doesn’t care *for* doing podcasts, not that he doesn’t care in general. In other words, they’re saying Eugene is uncomfortable with doing them (for valid reasons, like the ones you mentioned).

[@startolentino]

@@princessaria Yeah, Eugene doesn't like doing them but he always comes through for the company despite his schedule and don't forget that Eugene came on the 2nd ep of Perfect Person to support Miles in his podcast. I really thought that was sweet of him. During his hiatus from the Trypod, he still tried to find time to do some with Miles and one with Rainie. Eugene really does seem to care for his friends and employees and willing to do things he doesn't like ust to show support ie. him sniffing Alfred's scratch boxes and rubbing his butt on a towel for the stray cats. He didn't even question it, he was just down to do it 😅

[@BugGutzzz]

Saying you don't like doing podcasts isnt really transparency 😭

[@Elisefo]

Keith listening to Olivia Rodrigo to cope with this is truly so on brand yet weirdly absurd

[@wonderlucky1912]

I remember Zach had mentioned before he liked Olivia Rodrigo’s music that he dedicated a whole without a recipe concept based on her Sour album. So I guess Zach introduce Olivia Rodrigo to Keith..🥹

[@wonderlucky1912]

7:55 Zach mentioning Olivia Rodrigo’s Traitor song “You betrayed me…”🥺

[@user-bn8tk4md6b]

If anyone remembers Olivia used to follow just Ned on IG so chances are he was her fave member 😭

[@wonderlucky1912]

@@user-bn8tk4md6b oh no! 😮 I wonder if Olivia knows and unfollowed him. Edit: I was not aware that Olivia doesn’t follow anyone on Instagram.

[@mykucheeseharry7720]

@@wonderlucky1912 she doesn’t follow anyone anymore

[@MindyMaeCrochets]

As someone who is chronically Ill, Ive been worried about Zach. This is most assuredly not only emotionally but physically taxing. All three of you need to make sure to stay hydrated, take your meds and just TRY and relax. I love you guys.

[@KoriEmerson]

As a fellow spoony .. pot..... Sooooooooo much pot.

[@KellyHallock111]

Yep 😢 it worried me when he said he’s not been exercising. It’s so easy to not take care of our health when other things come up.

[@constanzanavarro821]

Love that Zach made a tiny reference to ex buzzfeed employees using this situation as an opportunity to make it about themselves, there were so nasty and for what

[@startolentino]

True. It was totally unnecessary and just throwing gas into the fire. It was inconsiderate to Ariel and the little boys.

[@poetryflow8413]

Eh everyone using the situation for attention, even the tri-guys. That social media for you.

[@dahjiat.8562]

​@@poetryflow8413 its not ONLY about them, but it is kinda about them

[@giorgiafletcher9546]

@@poetryflow8413 true but this is something that directly relates to the try guys and their company so its very very fair (and wanted by the public) to hear their point of view - others (like the ex buzzfeed employees) who are not directly relevant to the situation but speaking on it personally does feel more exploitative yk

[@tinacheers98]

Who?

[@leahbelieva]

I feel like having a series where you OCCASIONALLY revisit old formats on a rotation would be fun. You could call it “Tried & True”

[@Misspooh001]

T H I S 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@ashleyduckworthyt3224]

Bravo!! Great title!!

[@Stopthisrightnow560]

I 100% want them to go back to eating spicy shit and waxing themselves. 😂😂😂

[@janemelody2196]

oh 1000%%%%%

[@melonmusk3411]

"Tried and Tested"?

[@rebekahneighbors]

An immediate family member committed a crime that landed them 25 to life last year and it's been incredibly traumatic personally. It may seem weird to say, but a LOT of what y'all had to say has been very relatable. Thank you for being so honest and sharing how you've felt about everything. It's been genuinely therapeutic.

[@Imjustkendall]

I’m so so sorry. That sounds awful omg :( ❤️‍🩹 keep strong, I know you will

[@ac_demarco]

n*d situation aside--keith's note about grief being a circle resonates so hard

[@Youuuuppppe]

Censored. That’s right

[@jaywenang2638]

Keep going boys

[@MadameKasumi]

I felt so seen when he said that

[@dixiecripps7792]

I almost started sobbing when he said that. Totally unprepared

[@tropicaldepression8202]

"I think the stages of grief, I think they're a circle." Is soooo accurate.

[@ceha9517]

I always thought grief comes in waves.

[@samluciano6289]

So true. . .stages of grief - a fucking circle.

[@hemulek]

I personally think grief is a spiral. The question is which way you go on it, downward or upward

[@frankiemillcarek6976]

Friend breakups can be as hard as or harder than romantic breakups. I'm sorry for everyone involved.

[@phoenixgate007]

Losing a relationship, is losing a relationship and betrayal is betrayal. Obviously Ariel and Will are the hardest hit but the Try Guys are right behind them; they also built a family with Ned.

[@roshie187]

Yeahh nahhh. It can be hard. But romantic shizzle hits harder. Both devastating tho. (I've had both so I know :') )

[@carat_light]

@R Smith Obviously Ariel and the children have it worse right now, but they also lost a friend they've had for over a decade and who they started a business with. I do agree that this person's comment doesn't quite work in this situation but they can still definitely feel bad over what happened??

[@proudtobeme1ashkente]

@R Smith It really depends on the -ships in question. Some friendships go way deeper than romantic relationships, even when children are involved. Unfortunately, a lot of people just settle with whomever to have a family, but the real deep emotions and connections are reserved for their friends and possibly affairs. But yeah, in this case I agree that Ariel and the kids are likely the biggest victims and the friends are a close second.

[@proudtobeme1ashkente]

@R Smith People like you are boring. I had a nuanced take but agreed with you at the end of my comment but you didn't even read that far. Just thirsty to disagree.

[@buttonedupwithstars9064]

It’s surreal because of the context, but I actually find myself coming back to this podcast episode a lot in timed I need comfort. Their willingness to talk candidly about their emotions and be as transparent as they were able to be about the situation is so nice to see. They dealt with this better than I’ve seen anyone in any comparable situation do so and I think that speaks to their compassion. Also, Keith talking about his anxiety going to public crowded places and Zach sort of nodding to affirm him was Very sweet ❤

[@brynbailey7132]

I am currently watching this for like the 5th time because I agree its super comforting and they express their feelings and the behind the scenes stuff so well

[@alaytheaherr]

i'm here for that exact reason!!! it's not the rehashing of drama i'm interested in...for some reason, the way they talked about their emotions, anxiety, and grief is so comforting...

[@tateak]

agree! i’m watching it for the 3rd time. just something about how like this episode is ABOUT something too instead of just kinda random chatting for an hour

[@beel.2209]

i thought i was the only one!!! i call it "comfort angst" because obviously i don't like the context but exactly like you said, the vulnerability and honesty is really refreshing and weirdly soothing

[@glitterunicorn9043]

I normally can’t sit thought videos longer then like 10 minutes, but i have watched this so many times i love how open they are

[@sorahn]

The fact that the team had to worry about getting sued by Ned speaks volumes

[@Sayj14]

Woah, that's a good point. Though I'm still cautious because we don't know the entire story.

[@gateauxq4604]

I think at least in part that was because they didn’t know how all of this could go legally. Yeah he could still try to sue them but I doubt that would go well for him.

[@MagentaRoseRed]

Yeah in this kind of situation that is always a possibility, whatever his attitude to it was it was something that they needed to seek advice on.

[@nikachinful]

NEW CONTENT ALERT!!! (good idea😊😊)

[@ivyshi589]

well i think its probably just that ned had suddenly become a person they didn’t know. he kept something from them for so long that they can’t be sure what type of person he actually is anymore

[@Tilly236]

I really hope Ariel can come back at some point. I don't know how likely that is, but she's a ray of sunshine and so sweet.

[@sharks2571]

Completely agree. To me she always added so much to the channel (and in the past 1-2 years, more than he who shall not be named). She is so brilliant, it is so sad that her personal life has been completely upset, but also her professional life has at least been made far more complex

[@thatgirl9532]

Can the other comments be recognised too this should be a positive channel people

[@tana3875]

@@sharks2571 I absolutely adore Ariel. She should have more of her interior design work showed off too like a spin-off show! I don’t care that Ned’s gone but I want Ariel to stay and get as much of her content out there as she wants.

[@Sannnwich]

i mean he's ned brand lol. Ariel is what makes ned interesting haha...

[@sharks2571]

@@tana3875 yes, that would be so cool. I thought the try moms videos were really good, and the video about mammograms was genuinely important

[@GiantHippo444]

i am absolutely obsessed with the shift in “normal guys trying things” to “were not normal anymore so let’s get some more normal people in here (and diversify)” growth is so important and so good

[@tabi_verse]

Absolutely. I was an on/off watcher since the Buzzfeed days and this reasured me again why I keep coming back to their content. They just developed this wholesome company. I am frankly excited to see where they're headed - especially with Zach's content.

[@emilyantonia197]

I love how Zach can be the goofy airhead and the organised boss, at the same time!

[@Smiley_Fruitcake]

Right? He's an amazing entertainer and a hugely responsible boss. He knows exactly where the line is.

[@andebrown3800]

Same, that's why I love his personality. :)

[@wassanaye6118]

Zach leading the legal actions and being in control alone while Eugene and Keith had their busy schedules he did excellent 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 i love him and so proud of him🥹🥺

[@autumnrosesorg8151]

The hurt in their eyes and how they don’t even want to say Ned’s name. It’s gut wrenching. We are in your guys side and here for you all. You will be better.

[@carolinekearns8229]

Especially Keith. He did not want to say Ned’s name at all unless he absolutely had too

[@kianahill3202]

Honestly, hearing them talk about it evens though it’s been a month, it’s still really fresh and I think it’s going to be for a long time but you know and I am going to say this frankly “F*** Ned”, we will ALL move past this because what they deserve at least is to have the support of us fans to be able to not just look at them for someone’s else’s mistake but continue to purely enjoy your content and the new Try guys ❤

[@LaTarjista]

They can't say his name for legal reasons.

[@lieybethl1992]

It slipped through zach. Around 6:05

[@Vellsant]

@@sweetakhadgi8077 i believe there's no legal ground do fire her. Ned was removed since he was a manager in a relationship with an employee.

[@48bluemorphos92]

It was so sad hearing Keith talk about feeling like his tour was the last good one before bad reputations. We still love you Keith😭😭

[@sabi4090]

I saw this comment before getting to that part of the video and I fully expected it to be a Taylor Swift reference lol

[@vaishnavisingh9244]

I am sorry but my inner swiftie jumped out at the Bad Reputation

[@thelittlecaravanner7748]

Yes!! Like the whole team doesn't have to feel tarnished over this, its very clear who was responsible!

[@amberg4539]

The three guys sooooo did NOT deserve this; how they got this grenade dropped on them, how there was the potential that their careers would be negatively affected, how their personal relationship with Ned ended in betrayal... they handled it with such professionalism & grace, but no doubt that $#!+ had to be HARD

[@Ms.Anonymous]

Honestly this whole thing that has happened has only made me realize how mature Keith, Zach and Eugene are. How professionally they handled the situation. How much thought they put into their decisions. After watching them be goofy and crazy for years I can really feel the growth of their characters as well So much respect for you guys Hope to see new awesome content from you guys

[@hobissprite6914]

The way Zach, Keith, and Eugene have handled this whole situation is absolutely admirable.

[@notbigcherry]

Excatly they handled it very maturally

[@HardenJID]

You mean hiding it till it got leaked? That’s admirable to you?😊

[@paperjam8709]

@@HardenJID they had to for legal reasons, they could have been sued, and they wanted to respect Ariel as well. It was stated why they waited in the video quite a few times. I think they handled it really well all things considered. It wasn’t a good situation and they had to work with their legal team before making a public statement, and they still have to be careful and watch for any sort of possible defamation claims

[@Hi_Brien]

Yeah, there's a few ways of handling this, and rushing to announce it to the world is just about the most harmful approach they could have taken. Notice they did a ton of work while it hadn't been announced yet, ideally the leaks would have taken a bit longer and they could have made the announcement after they were completely done.

[@monicabooth2812]

@@HardenJID Live-tweeting the investigation and the firing would have been better? No, it wouldn't have. It would have been the absolute worst thing to do. This isn't 4 buds making videos in a basement. They have an actual company, they have to go through proper channels and have their ducks in a row so that Ned can't come back with lawyers saying he was unfairly dismissed.

[@Alwaystired48]

I love that Zach subtly dissed the buzzfeed employees who commented on the situation lmao

[@kooldude962]

Hope they enjoyed being relevant again at the try guys expense

[@sandy80334]

It was really some lame behavior. Like using this for clicks is wack

[@fallenbee]

@@sandy80334 even then, it just paints them as bad people. Because if they knew Ned was cheating all along, why didn't they say anything to Ariel? 💀

[@Anitamustdie]

It gave me like disgusting vibes. Like you aren’t part of their circle so don’t comment on shit u don’t know. Ofc if Ned did something at BZ sure they can comment but idk it was so off putting

[@fallenbee]

@@Anitamustdie the only one I didn't mind was that one person who made a tiktok defending Keith, Eugene, and Zach. Saying that they're good people and they're doing their best to handle the situation accordingly. (I think they're someone who worked at buzzfeed, but maybe I'm wrong) Everyone else was being disgusting lmao.

[@twohootsinlove]

Zach sometimes present himself as more goofy, silly and a kid at heart but this really showed another side of how mature, responsible and patient he can be 👏🏻👏🏻

[@shelby4771]

Yeah, that seriousness rarely comes out and it's usually -adorably- when he talks about Maggie. He loves her so much it's adorable, and she seems like such a sweetheart!

[@1rage17]

He stepped up for sure!

[@annalisfernandez9515]

this is so insane but the cut to Keith in 26:19 putting on chapstick really sent me to the moon

[@grannyfoshanny]

BAHAHAHAH 😂

[@heatherlauder6192]

Omg I WHEEZED at that, was so unexpected

[@PaigeA6741]

As an HR professional, I think y’all handled this situation so well. Actions have consequences and you chose not to throw this under a rug.

[@ZennExile]

why? why did this need to be "cleaned" up? What right or responsibility do all you people have to any of this? The only people who should care about this are Ned, that woman, and his family. But somehow you have decided that your opinion matters... Why?

[@krithika.-.5199]

@@ZennExile It wasn't just a personal mistake. He cheated with an employee as a co-owner. The company has to then step in to protect their image. And cheating is frowned upon. Of course everyone will frown.

[@TattyBojangles81]

As a HR professional, would you also have put a million ads and sponsorships on this?

[@ZennExile]

@@krithika.-.5199 no they don't. And that doesn't matter. It's NO ONE's place to judge and respond to their behavior. This was between Ned, the employee, and his family, ABSOLUTELY no one else. Company policy over workplace relationships isn't LAW, it's a fair play, safe environment policy. As long as the policy is in place the company is no longer liable and therefor can wash their hands of any negative fallout. This was a show, put on to sell advertising space, because it's trendy to drop the hammer on the "evil cheating man". FunFact: Woman are as much as 15x more likely to cheat than men in every scientifically studied model. Especially when power dynamics are reversed. Turns out Females in power are far more likely to abuse that power than even the most ambitious or delusional of males in the same study. Psychopathic males tended on average to under perform their female counterparts in EVERY SINGLE METRIC. It's telling, is all I am saying. You know, how so many woman buck up, because in their own lives, they fkt up, and they are trying to virtue signal real loud so no one would ever suspect... Yeah I see you ladies. We all do.

[@krithika.-.5199]

@@ZennExile This wasn't even about women or gender? Nice way to reveal you're an incel. Workplace relationships is not fair play when one individual is holding a senior position to another. You wanted the company to turn a blind eye to cheating when Ariel is a known individual to the company too? They'd be cancelled for not taking action. People cheat and people face consequences. I don't agree with Ned or Alex receiving death threats or whatever but they are public figures who fucked up, big time. And you, claiming to say nobody has a right to judge someone else's behaviour, are spending a lot of time writing about women and their behaviour? Slight hypocrisy on your part, innit?

[@ciaracloke5531]

Miles going "sorry it's time to BeReal" actually made me SCREAM laughing

[@Flanneryschickens]

THE TIMING

[@aleks-33]

Wtf is that an app famous in California?! I've never heard of it but they made it seem like "oh yeah, that app"

[@amelieviljoen6766]

@@aleks-33 it's an app for american teens more than anyone else lol.

[@xcybercatz]

@@aleks-33 basically, the idea behind the app is it has no likes or follows, and they send a notification at a random time every day to take a photo, completely no filters, and completely real, thus the name 'BeReal'. my friends and i use it a lot in the uk, too, so it isnt exclusively in California.

[@ameliahoward9861]

@@aleks-33 not just in california, it’s extremely popular all throughout the states

[@Diademischief]

Honestly I'm just impressed. I haven't watched in awhile, but as a woman I've never seen this level of repercussion. Like he founded the company and they swiftly and smartly removed him. It gives me just a little bit of hope for the future and I'm just waiting to see this kind of mentality hit more STEM work places.

[@jennistone8740]

That’s what I keep thinking. My ex cheated on me in January and then just two weeks ago again and I feel like someone pulled the rug beneath my feet and he’s… fine (?). I mean nobody cares, there are no repercussions, no consequences. And it makes me feel so lonely and alone, as if it were just this normal thing men do to people who love them and then move on and the ones who got hurt are the ones carrying all that pain for his instances of pleasure. So this feels so nice. Just all the anger and disappointment and reassurance that this is in fact a terrible thing to do to a person.

[@tigress1girl]

Exactly

[@xanhadsell8160]

@@jennistone8740 i know it’s your life and you gotta do what you gotta do, but fuck those who haven’t called him out. i’ll do it right now: hey jerk, your selfishness is callous to an incredible person who has dedicated herself to you and your relationship !! now on to you: jenni, i cannot imagine your pain and the conflicting emotions you must be going through. you should be proud for every moment of self love and realization that his actions are not a reflection of your worth. please think of a personality trait you love and a physical feature too. say it in a mirror, say it to a friend, write it down and never forget it ! i hope you have a lovely day and i just gave my kitty cat a hug in lieu of you

[@dydylee27]

@@jennistone8740 I'm really sorry this happened to you and cheating is the worst but he didn't get fired for cheating. That's not a fireable offense. He got fired for sexual misconduct with his employee.

[@kendrakoraea9622]

Kind of messed up for them to remove their friend so quickly? I guess when the money tree is involved years of friendship means nothing for them.

[@sarajamesjulien7397]

Keith talking about trees made me realize..... He should totally release a guided meditation. Even just the tiny snippet was so calm and soothing.

[@carlaviz6605]

The Try Guys videos have been naturally moving away from the "same four guys in every video" format for a while now, so this adjustment definitely won't be as jarring as it might have been a few years ago. I'm excited for what's to come.

[@meg3972]

This is such a lovely comment. I was trying to find a way to say this and you totally hit it. Thanks for posting!

[@bridgetf88]

yes!! a perfect observation

[@indextree31]

It's weirdly comforting how 'normal' this episode is, despite the context. Good jobs guys

[@MyFictionalChaos]

Imo theyre really good podcast hosts. Well-spoken individuals here

[@Zetamomma]

YEs!! I am not even half way yet and I totally agree - that was what I thought in the first couple minutes even....

[@Margar02]

Everyone singing the Miles Nation song was so warm and fuzzy. I always sing along, but this time felt like a group hug.

[@iitsniikkii]

i was thinking exaclty this. jsut shows how classy they are.

[@R.444-]

@@Margar02 seeing zach and keith be so vocal in their support for miles and just having fun with it was so heartwarming tbh. everyone needs people in their lives that will hype them up like that, especially with the context of someone else having been petty and passive aggressive about how little support they had for the segment 😐 (seriously though f ned for the way he acted especially since he was miles’ boss, that wasn’t just constructive crit and if my superior treated me like that in a workplace based on creative endeavors it would fucking suck. especially since miles puts all this work into producing the podcast and he couldn’t even let him have a segment like? and as a professional, as a boss, even if it wasn’t something he found personally interesting being that transparently dismissive when it’s literally part of the job descrip to not just be openly rude and not give a shit when making content..anyways miles nation rise)

[@Jessica-rx7yw]

The way men are holding another man accountable, when it would’ve been easier to keep it all under wraps and sweep it aside is absolutely why y’all are my favorite creators. You could’ve responded differently or not spoken out, but you didn’t. You stepped up, you protected the innocent people, and you held him accountable for the wrongdoings. As hard as it is for us, the fans, I can’t imagine how many emotions y’all are feeling. The pain, the anger, the sadness, the fear, and everything else. You’re a perfect example of what this world needs. Y’all will still be my comfort creators no matter what

[@jadecoolness101]

Important to note, their business was threatened. It's nice to see men hold men accountable, but at the same time... It was more just "dump him before we sink with him"

[@AllTheArtsy]

how would it be easier to sweep it under the rug when the nternet knew about it before they came out with it? stop this parasocial nonsense

[@amaris5141]

@@jadecoolness101 but they could have denied it, because the pictures were blurry, and fans were pretty on the fence if he’d was actually cheating. they could have covered it all under a rug, but they didn’t.

[@bleepbloop7039]

as opposed to aliens holding each other accountable?

[@deacon.]

I'm not an avid fan or anything, just seen a few videos over the years, but It's very refreshing to see transparency like this. They have my support

[@devino.6332]

"I think the stages of grief are a circle" absolutely and I feel like being super known on the internet restarts that grief cycle because everyone's talking about it and people might cross that line and ask and even interrogate you guys about it. I think this was the healthiest and best way to go about it, we're all super proud of you guys and want what's best for you going forward.

[@mikeinkc]

Keith, Zach, and Eugene are examples of good managers. They protect their employees and their privacy. CEOs of major companies should take notice.

[@ChamiKhan13]

yeah. i think this is one of the only companies in the world where if they say they care about not only their customers (their audience, in this case) and their employees, i'm actually going to believe it. i can't say that about practically any other company

[@qwitchyy]

It really stuck out to me when at the end, Zach took the time to really emphasize how supportive Maggie, Becky, and Matt have been for them during this, and show how much they appreciate them. I think this situation has made a lot of us want to show our partners how much we love them even more. Still sending so much to everyone at Second Try, Ariel, Wes, Finn, & Will.

[@PoppyUr]

@DJ Pauly D Will was Alex’s fiancé

[@worldsbiggestholdthegirlfan]

it's making me have even higher standards for a future partner

[@qwitchyy]

@@worldsbiggestholdthegirlfan GOOD. Never settle for less 🖤

[@jessicaswim2744]

I know they probably won’t post anywhere if they’re still in touch with Ariel, but I hope that they’ve made an effort to reach out to her and Wes and Finn.

[@magnum_cx8805]

@@jessicaswim2744 Yeah no they have definitely talked to her about all this and they’re friends with her too so it’s not like they’re gonna start ignoring her.

[@kristenbooks]

Keith: worrying about how this could negatively affect even people who have only appeared on the channel as a guest Ned: didn’t even care enough about his wife and kids to stop himself from cheating and destroying his family.

[@christinebenson518]

Some people just don't care. I have an aunt who openly flirted in from of her teenage daughters. She's cheated on her husband for over 20 years, but he has never cheated on her. Both of their fathers cheated as well. Some people are just selfish. It could be that Ned does love Ariel and his kids but wanted someone else too. I'm not trying to excuse his behavior, just trying to rationalize it. Side note: when I saw that Gesiel moved out I told my mom "She's divorcing Tom's ass. You know he lied about retiring. She should leave him because he clearly puts his wants and needs above her and their kids." Most of that could be true of Ned as well, for all I know.

[@liamtremblay6486]

I blame both. They're both cheaters but also enablers. He or her can't cheat if the other didn't enable it and told their significant other but they both chose to be cheaters and enable eachothers toxic behaviors. All 1 of them had to do was say no to the other and report it. Neither of them did. Both are equally toxic. she knew his wife personally and worked with/for her. That’s utter disrespect to Ariel and her own fiancé who PUT A RING ON IT. just think I hear in a lot of videos that it wasn’t her fault and I wanted to point out that they’re both in the wrong in some ways. She's not a victim, she has a HISTORY OF GOING AFTER MARRIED MEN, and everyone needs to realize that. I get that there was a power imbalance, but at the root of it all they have a very established friendship. I still think that they both should be held accountable to the same standards regardless. They messed around, hurt BOTH of their partners AND hurt their friends. I hate that his statement says "may have hurt", no you hurt your wife and family knowing full well what you were doing, no maybe there. Also Alexandria has known them for years so she fully knew he was married and had kids. She threw her 11 year relationship away while also helping destroy another family. There's also a clip from their podcast telling a story about pressuring a guy to have shots with her even though his gf is pregnant and doesn't want too. Hell they even had a video of her trying on wedding dresses for her upcoming wedding. People can keep bringing up power imbalance but she's a grown ass woman. They both knew better and both suck. What really bothers me is that Alex appears to be unwilling to take any kind of responsibility for her actions. She is a grown ass adult woman. She was not forced or pressured into anything. She willingly went along with a sexual relationship with this married man, her boss for over a year. Willingly. If she was not happy about anything, she knows she could have spoken to the other guys if she was uncomfortable. She knows that. How dare she.

[@ghoultooth]

@@liamtremblay6486 I completely agree with you, but when people bring up power imbalances they are talking about how she could sue if let go over this. They are both absolutely at fault, but she is an employee which brings up a lot of moral and ethical issues. Completely agree with you though.

[@ebonyloveivory]

Not only that, even if he didn't care about his family..he's not in the least bothered by the fact that it affected his career, livelihood, friendships, relationships...etc. I just don't comprehend. He's coming to 40. Not a wilful 14 year old. 🥴

[@anastasiaeqbali6933]

And he has the gall to call it a work relationship instead of what it was - an AFFAIR!

[@madelainebeal4424]

Zack is so well spoken. I’m so proud of all three of them for approaching this situation so maturely. Props!

[@spencerwilmore13579]

SO bummed that Ariel probably won’t be in any more videos, which is understandable. Just fell in love with her and the moms this past year so this hits hard

[@Flanneryschickens]

I know. Knowing all the work she put into the company as well, and her incredible energy and the friendships that she probably feels awkward about -- I feel so bad for her

[@icsk8grrl]

From what they said in this podcast it sounds like they are leaving the door open for her actually, it’s just up to her what she’s comfortable doing.

[@kulsoomjawaid6411]

@@icsk8grrl she's apparently trying to hang on to her marriage so I realistically don't think she's going to come on videos from the company that fired her husband.

[@danieileen1190]

@@kulsoomjawaid6411 I really wish she wouldn’t, she deserves to mature from this and find better. I could see them co parenting well tbh. But obviously her choice just my unwanted opinion lol.

[@vykepp5709]

It sucks that her husband's disgusting actions will likely affect her involvement and friendships with the team, guys, try partners

[@dormantuntilfurthernotice]

i love zach and keith's dynamic because they're the "goofy fun for the most part but have unparalleled maturity for the important stuff"

[@nerdypeachmango]

Like a different flavor of Rhett and Link

[@LeyliaFireheart]

I honestly love that when one try guy (eugene) doesnt prefer a specific format the try guys use that as an opportunity for their staff to participate and grow their own skill set. While also respecting Eugene's preferences

[@Eatasak]

no seriously! keeps the staff having fun with their job! need more accommodations like that

[@ixymogun8052]

AaA

[@jaywenang2638]

Eugene for sure Is more private with his life and projects

[@LoveLiyah849]

That’s what friends do! I like that they respect his interests

[@nehaduggal5639]

This issue didn't effect my favourite video from the Try Guys. Keith eating $500 of cheese is hands down my ultimate content. Waiting for a cheese re-visited

[@GwenivereH04]

thank God someone else feels deeply connected to Keith's cheese video 😭💛 I thought I was alone!

[@Kali_0303]

I absolutely love that video and how feral Kelsey got with that jar cheese😂😂

[@sadeenqardan4755]

oh my god i thought i was the only one, i've seen that video over 20 times

[@alyssawilson5020]

Your reputation is far from “tainted”, you are setting the bar for handling such situations swiftly and appropriately. If anything you’re making new fans and bringing back some old ones. Everyone is proud of you guys ❤

[@gottalovetheinternet]

Only in America (or North Korea possibly?) would someone be fired for a personal relationship. It’s scary how brainwashed Americans are into thinking work and personal life are intertwined. Who he sleeps with is NOT the business of his employer. This would truly only happen in America (or another equally fascist country)

[@formation100]

Don't worry the 4 most plain white guys will survive

[@alyssawilson5020]

@@formation100 sorry you’re so miserable that you need to sprinkle your negativity in a places that really aren’t necessary 👍

[@X5129X]

I’m honestly giving Keith Zach and Eugene 100/10 on how they handle The what happened KZbin video, raw emotion but still professionally done and this just fells like a sit down talk we need

[@shankeduu]

i mean yeah it was scripted and produced af

[@devonwinkler9943]

@@shankeduu duh as they should this isn't a joke. It's real it's not like David dobrek or Charles they are real owners and care they don't want to manipulate the Internet

[@frostyskeletons8950]

@@shankeduu as required, per legalities. I really appreciate them finding ways to keep the audience in the loop despite all the red tape

[@shamelush]

@@shankeduu yea, of course it was?

[@sunnyeevee]

@@shankeduu I'd be seriously concerned if their first proper video statement wasn't

[@vannieleigh]

Zach singing “you betrayed me. And I know that you’ll never feel sorry…” even though he’s laughing, I felt that.

[@recitationtohear]

Here is the full clip : ned got exposed kzbin.info/www/bejne/o3TJipxta5hnqLc

[@Laylam14]

All jokes carry some truth especially when people are emotional.

[@AS-rr9km]

Felt like a cig burn on the cheek when I heard him. Sad, but glad they are processing and talking

[@earthstar7534]

@@AS-rr9km weirdly specific analysis, but I agree.

[@kwiggy5091]

I'd just like us to all collectively acknowledge that Miles has basically just instructed us to go touch grass

[@taylorewalters]

"it's a workplace violation & that's that." it really is that simple & they are handling this like absolute pros.

[@gillianjurgens2089]

hope this isn’t creepy but ur so pretty!!

[@taylorewalters]

@@gillianjurgens2089 no, not at all! it's very kind, thank you! :)

[@mattatee]

i don't comment much but I just wanna say kudos to you for saying "Eugene doesn't like it, so he doesn't have to do it any more" I hope this is the energy you go forward with! do what you enjoy!

[@robineras477]

Honestly same. Props to him for not suffering through something he doesn’t like and props to the others for not forcing him. It’s fine to only do the things you’re most comfortable with/excited about

[@worddoebro]

when did they say this? i must have missed it! do you know the minute mark this happens at? thanks in advance :)

[@superofelia123]

@@worddoebro they start talking about it around 42.40

[@enbylesby]

@@worddoebro 42:50 ☺

[@rosehill9537]

Mattatee I agree. The respect of the people they work with as an individuals is so clear and so natural for them!!

[@ariellezemaitis5183]

I got to see Keith in Rosemont, IL with Lewberger just a few days after they found out. Keith - I thought you were phenomenal just as is, but to know that you were also dealing with the turmoil of this issue - only a truly talented and professional can handle this with such grace. Much love to you and Zach, Eugene and the rest of your staff.

[@AdjustableWorld]

Props to Eugene, Keith, and Zack for doing what they needed to do for THEIR business.

[@painkiller6630]

Just release a new hit song Tell me what you think 🔥🌪️🔥

[@cadavher]

Keith saying that the stages of grief are a circle is probably one of the most relatable, wise things that everyone can take away and use in their own lives. I don't think he knows how significant that statement was! 💛

[@kj.4977]

Yes! I agree! My PTSD acts like that, as if the stages of grief are repeating and going in circles, so Keith saying that made me feel understood, and it made me have a lot more sympathy for him :)

[@coffeeandtrex3344]

Agreed. I know I personally connected with that a lot.

[@robinbliss6513]

Truer words were never said.

[@Casutama]

Oh ABSOLUTELY! People act like "oh, you just work through the stages of grief and then -bam- you're good to go, have you got to 'anger' yet?" but it doesn't work like that *at all* I felt very seen when he said that!

[@cadavher]

@@kj.4977 💛