The Hanneman Problem

[@spacedoyster7686]

Funnier thought; as a Sniper, Hanneman doesn't even need to use a Magic Bow to get kills for a bit, especially after getting Hunter's Volley. There's a reason Sniper is one of the best classes in the game. It'll work wonders for anyone.

[@IntrusiveThot420]

Yeah! And the funny thing is with his base res he can tank mages sometimes, so he can shoot them from pretty close, which opens up positions for other archers to sit further back

[@Ed_man_talking9]

double so with his crest, it's like the game is telling us to "make him like Bernie"

[@sarasaland4709]

Another oddity is how he has the Crest of Indech. Which can grant a Brave effect when he uses a weapon. Except… Mages don’t use weapons. I love Hanneman, but I feels like they had two different teams design him.

[@IntrusiveThot420]

Tbh indech's proc rate is so low that it migght as well not exist. Its main utility is letting him use relics without taking damage

[@sarasaland4709]

@@IntrusiveThot420Maybe of Hanneman had some kind of Quick Riposte+esque personal skill, he'd be something crazy.

[@homesteadhero]

I am so thankful I found this video. I personally get bored sticking with every character's canonical classes and love branching out into something unconventional whenever I have the chance, so I'll have to try this out next time through! Thank you for sharing everything so excitedly and concisely: it helps educate players like me without making us feel belittled. Hope to see more from you in the future 👍

[@IntrusiveThot420]

Oh god somehow the algorithm got ahold of these videos a week or so ago and i've been struggling to come up with something else since 😂 i haven't played 3h since i made these. Do you have any ideas about units to cover?

[@homesteadhero]

@@IntrusiveThot420 Ah, the ever-chaotic whims of the mysterious algorithm 😅 never gives you any mercy, does it? Hmm, well there are some units I find have difficulty lining up any of their boons with something worthwhile. Catherine is always odd cuz her gauntlet skill goes to waste without War Master access and she only has sword otherwise, but can't do Mortal Savant cuz she sucks with Reason so I typically go Falcon Knight. Lorenz gets pigeonholed into Dark Knight almost always bc of his specific strengths/stat growths. People seem to universally have trouble making Ashe viable endgame, and I remember Raphael just taking a nosedive in my runs halfway through. Any of those resonate with you? You could also branch out into different types of unit coverage, if you're not deadset on making the best units possible and whatnot. As I was typing this out, I realized you might've been asking "do you have better builds for other people?" instead lol I've tried some successful ones - Dark Flier Ingrid, War Master Felix, and Bow Knight Petra being some notable goodies - but I tend to not be more story-centric than gameplay-focused in these games, so those are just for funsies.

[@Elite_Teach]

The problem with Hanneman is that he’s not an axe user

[@smtandearthboundsuck8400]

?? Everyone can use axes and axes are shit in 3h anyways. No reason to ever use either swords and axes past the first few chapters. Weapon ranks for class requirements are not arguments in axe’s favor, it doesn’t mean anything when even the axe classes optimally shouldn’t use axes ever.

[@Elite_Teach]

@@smtandearthboundsuck8400 yeah but it takes forever for him to use a hammer

[@ultimaterecoil1136]

@@smtandearthboundsuck8400 I mean when playing crimson flame you are pretty much just abusing her op personal combat art which is on an axe. Saying you should never use axes just ain’t true. Likewise the wind sweep people are better on swords then anything else usually

[@smtandearthboundsuck8400]

@@ultimaterecoil1136 It contributes for a grand total of 5 chapters in one route and is locked to one character. Yup. Aymr is the sole exception, not the rule. And that last point is false, Yuri is better with bows or gauntlets. Likewise with Byleth. Who else gets windsweep?

[@ultimaterecoil1136]

@@smtandearthboundsuck8400 I mean it’s Dimitri’s only good art that isn’t hunters volley/fierce iron fist and he’s kinda already wanting high crit for wrath vengeance. Wo dao or cursed ashira sword providing enough crit that he doesn’t have to use crit gambits and a crit ring can be handy for him and windsweep is nice for the occasional monster. Even without using a class with sword faire it’s better then lance even on Paladin to use swords on him then lances anyway

[@AlphaC0re]

5:06 we just vibin as linhardt is casually murdered by claude

[@IntrusiveThot420]

Yeah lol, it's not even necessary to kill him to win, I just sorta had nothing to do and wanted more XP on Claude.

[@dirkdiggler2218]

Cool vid man, thanks for uploading. I’m on Azure Moon right now and I’ve kinda already got my recruits for this run but when I FINALLY do CF I’m gonna use tf out of Hanneman with this build. I’ve always liked him as a character since my first playthrough in Church route but I’ve never used him cause everything I’ve read says he’s underwhelming on maddening. Justice for Hanneman

[@IntrusiveThot420]

Hanneman's magic growth and bases make him objectively very strong for not a ton of investment. If your game is on NG, I'd wait to recruit him 'til you've got the Magic Bow available at the Pagan Altar. I'm not sure entirely what the unlock conditions for the bow are; if you hit B+ professor rank you can simply craft one yourself by save scumming for arcane crystals and using 4 of them on a Steel Bow.

[@elite9237]

There's a lot of mediocre unit's in this game, but assuming their name isn't Cyril or Ignatz, everyone can be used

[@dirkdiggler2218]

@@elite9237 lol I'm on my 3rd or 4th Golden Deer playthrough now and every time Ignatz has been a beast. He's not particularly strong but he hits crits sooo often. Just slap him on sniper and throw hunters volley at everything. Never did get around to using this Hanneman build, though. I have to do it in the challenge run I have planned.

[@zilgred3056]

uh cyril seriously? the same who got vengeance, ridiculous amount of hp and point blank volley? i mean in silver snow he must not be the best but in others routes je is as strong as leonie in maddening lmao

[@elite9237]

@@zilgred3056 RNG must have screwed me lol

[@phoenx_art1857]

Will never forget the time that Hanneman leveled up and absolutely no stat leveled up. Nothing. I was so mad

[@wesnohathas1993]

I'm not even sure I could get mad at a zero-stat level up because it's such an insanely rare occurrence.

[@chefcc90]

There's a lot of other ways to get hold of materials. The DLC for the Abyss makes it easy to get additional items. Also, on new game + you can make him powerful immediately of you want.

[@jonunciate7018]

This will prove useful to my maddening faculty only run.

[@serothel]

Hey, hey! This is a great breakdown. Very informative and you come from a place of clear knowledge. I'll have to remember this when I play Maddening. I'll also have to uhhh... get around to finishing FE3H.

[@IntrusiveThot420]

Serothel yo thanks :D the game's worth finishing when you get into a turn based tactics mood for sure. What house are you doing?

[@IntrusiveThot420]

Serothel yo I think youtube ate your last comment, something about playing NieR Automata, cute girls, and Crimson Flower..? Either way you picked a route with some excellent gameplay. The final map on Crimson Flower is super fun. Also I cried at the ending of NieR, IMO it should go in the "vidya games do postmodernism" category with Bioshock and Spec Ops: The Line. (Also, what video's in the pipeline next? :D)

[@serothel]

@@IntrusiveThot420 YT robots at it again. I want to get to them all but Crimson Flower is first. I could talk about NieR forever haha. Next vid is an indie space game if I can conquer this writer's block. After that I'm not sure but I have a couple ideas. Wanna try to do Halo this year, and Project Wingman if it releases

[@IntrusiveThot420]

Serothel crimson flower's s fun one! I wonder which route will end up as your favorite. Also, Automata was my first NieR, and now anything Yoko does is instantly on my radar. You know, are there any widely popular series you think are really quite bad? Maybe you could do a deep dive criticism of some popular series! Obviously it's risky lol, but that could get some attention..?

[@serothel]

@@IntrusiveThot420 Ditto re: NieR, I'm a huge Yoko Taro fan. Really looking forward to the Replicant remake. There are a couple popular games I'd consider roasting, although I'd probably get roasted in return. Probably the hottest take is that I uh... I don't much care for Borderlands.

[@vemearts3394]

As someone with brown eyes graduating in 2024 I highly appreciate this content

[@MrVisde]

Thanks for sharing this. I’ve never had luck beefing up Hanneman. Might try this build next time.

[@crimsonowl1420]

For me, I focused a lot on his speed, making him a brawler first, then a swordsmaster for speed and strength, giving him lots of speed boosters, and finally making him a trickster so he can use weapons and his magic and it worked a lot for me when I uses him.

[@IntrusiveThot420]

OwlFanatic Why go to all that trouble when he can just double with a bow? He has strengths and weapon ranks in all the right places to do it :)

[@crimsonowl1420]

@@IntrusiveThot420 It worked. He doubles enemies with his increased speed and him being a trickster helped. When I made him a warlock he was deleting units left and right. To you it might be trouble but to me it proved effective making him a strong unit.

[@angussmith7748]

It takes a lot of investment, but War Master is a very good class for Hanneman. Quick Riposte guarantees he doubles as well as the Aura Knuckles keeping his damage output at absurd levels and the Bolt Axe for ranged options.

[@IntrusiveThot420]

Yeah war master hanneman is fun :) but the problem as always is like you said, investment. The magic sniper takes virtually no resources and is really easy to get rolling.

[@Sigledriceman]

also hunters volley is long range for less potential counters

[@Ridlay_]

Even as someone who is not super invested in Fire Emblem, really interesting stuff man!

[@IntrusiveThot420]

Glad you enjoyed! I kinda lost interest in the game a while ago though, but i'm pumped for the next one! If you check out fe3h.com , Rengor and his crew have a really really good three houses resource up there :D this is one of the like, two niche builds I discovered that they didn't know about yet.

[@sirgumshoe9019]

Silly thing was in my first playthrough I made Hanneman a monk.

[@AB-dd4jz]

"Mercedez is the best healer in the game" Lindart would like to have a word with you ...

[@IntrusiveThot420]

Yeah mercedes is pretty bad tbh, I have learned a lot since this video 😂 mercedes is pretty much the only healer that can't get physic by chapter 2.

[@QwixLF]

Swordmaster Lysithia after nabbing dancer's +20 Sword Avo and a forged levin gave me a similar vibe. Ignoring the conventional logic of class lines and going by stats makes for some weird builds. I wish lances had a universal magic option, though. Luín isn't enough.

[@lefthandedscout9923]

Arrow of Indra hits magically and can be forged into Arrow of Indra+ for 3 range but that's only obtainable on Crimson Flower. It's also on Verdant Wind but you get it on the last chapter making it questionable to use

[@kingjunabou4910]

Luin isnt even magical

[@yungthunder2681]

"Mercedes is the best healer in the game" This is when I realized you have no idea what you're talking about lol

[@IntrusiveThot420]

Yeah, if you read the other comments I think my most common response is "yeah i wish i could remake this video, mercedes missing out on physic in ch2 makes her so bad lol" 😂 I think you'll like the Ignatz one though, I almost guarantee it's something you haven't tried.

[@matthiasgahl299]

Long story short: hunters volley good

[@IntrusiveThot420]

Yes and also feeding cats!

[@Undeadriot]

I'll have to try this build sometime, although Warmaster Hanneman still my go to lmao. Good vid.

[@FoxyAreku]

Hanneman doesn't have speed problems. He can double armors just with the warlock base speed, and that's all a mage ever needs to double really. Bow Hanneman is nice for memes but passing up on Meteor isn't something I recommend.

[@IntrusiveThot420]

I just don't think meteor's utility is as high as everyone else seems to. It's like, I think it's very good for blind playthroughs. But if you know the game and you're planning on routing every map, warp/stride is going to be stronger than meteor for long range attacks. It'll also be lower investment and applicable to better units :D And in that "rout everything" scenario, sniper hanneman has more damage output than warlock hanneman, and can oneshot all the things warlock hanneman just chips. For warp skipping playstyles, then you just use better units and there'd be no reason whatsoever to touch Hanneman.

[@lefthandedscout9923]

meteor is best equipped to give supports and gambit boosts that are borderline mapwide until you have a good target for it such as a boss that ends the map on kill

[@oof5992]

In my opinion Hanneman is the best mage in 3H by far on Maddening since no mage ever doubles on Maddening in the first place and so he dumps all his speed into pure magic allowing him to One shot enemies very easily + he can easily use the Thyrsus since he has a crest. He also uses a defense adjutant very well for enemy phase baiting lmao. Also Meteor is great regardless of your opinion on it. But yeah Chadnnaman is so godly that even as a sniper is broken.

[@smtandearthboundsuck8400]

>Maddening >’one shots’ Lol even Lysithea and Constance run into major 1hko issues. The best they can one shot are swordmasters/grapplers/Assassins, and it comes with a shitty hitrate too! Mr ‘’age is just a number’’ is doing peanut damage without hunter’s volley or FIF.

[@smtandearthboundsuck8400]

‘’Even as a sniper he’s broken.’’ No it’s SNIPER that makes him usable, Hanneman is average.

[@ltranc]

What the fuck do you mean problem, there is no problem with Hanneman.

[@RandyNgelale]

This build is pretty good overall and maybe even the best if you are determined to throw large amount of gold at him since HV isn't a cheap combat art and it the linchpin on which his viability is predicated. Seems an awful lot of work in the early game to fish, play with cats etc just to make a sub-par unit break even haha. I would like to add though that movement+1 may yield more consistent gameplay results as stacking crit won't be very easy because your options for mag based crit boosting battalions are very limited, if not crimson flower bound then you may only have mockingbird thieves. Overall this is great if you are dedicated to using Hanneman because you like him. This build isn't very Hanneman specific as Lysithea with her mastermind ability can slightly compensate for her lack of a bow boon, plus she hits harder. That being said, I love the vid and it makes me happy that these discussions are continuing and evolving 😁

[@IntrusiveThot420]

Randy Ngelale yeah! Lots of mages can do it well, Hanneman is just very non resource intensive to use because of his starting classes / getting him later. And I think its real niche is that hanneman doesn't need to gobble up magic boosters to deal very good damage, so you can have BOTH him and constance / lysithea without any ill effects on your damage output.

[@RandyNgelale]

Next time I run BL I'll give this a shot with Tathlum bow!

[@IntrusiveThot420]

@@RandyNgelale i'll also say, i generally don't try to stack crit on him, doubling is usually more than enough. Instead, I generally go for the universally available 7 mag and 30 hit on the macuil evil repelling co.

[@josephhuang1163]

Thus

[@pgoogler]

Wow I bet he overkills stuff by a lot. Magic weapons/combat arts are a lot of fun. I love nuking things with Lorenz or Annette.

[@domhyrule]

My favorite is teleporting Lysithia in front of boss and it's gg

[@armorbearer9702]

Well said, you convinced me that Hanneman is a good unit. You might have to dump extra resources, but it is worth the payoff. For skills, I think he should take Aegis just in case he gets into a range battle.

[@ryanfleshbourne3547]

everyone someone pronounces niche as "nicht" my soul dies a little.

[@IntrusiveThot420]

XD right? Alas, I don't have a time machine.

[@PeevedLatias]

Mercedes is arguably the worst healer in the game since fortify messes with low hp builds, at which point she lacks silence/warp from marianne/linhardt.

[@IntrusiveThot420]

Yep! 😂 I think my most common reply under these videos is someone says "mercy sucks actually" and I say "yeahhhhh she's the only healer that can't get physic for ch2 which is dumpster-tier bad"

[@PeevedLatias]

@@IntrusiveThot420 Like, the chapter 2 thing is a big deal, sure, but honestly the fortify one is the big one for me! Nothing quite like de-activating wrath/vantage by accident.

[@IntrusiveThot420]

@@PeevedLatias yeah i don't use much healing at all on most maps after the early game though. So that's generally when it matters most for me anyway.

[@harleyhuskey]

I'll have to try this Hanneman out next time I play.

[@HPRshredder]

In my second playthough I made every single unit a Wyvern Lord or Falcon Knight. Even Lysithia. I can't say I ever wanted to use Hanneman... But if I did? He'd be taking flight.

[@IntrusiveThot420]

XD yeah flight is really good in every route. Most of the besides maybe Azure Moon are suuuuuper punishing to horse units.

[@digitalbooklett9357]

Great vid! I was curious how viable Hanneman would be as a sniper, although I don't get heavy into the numbers, on my standard playthroughs I try to pick a few units to try out different builds on (for example my current Azure file has Assassin Lindhardt solely because in my experience, he crits and triggers skills almost every engagement, and that's carried through in all my playthroughs) so I really love learning new builds. Great work.

[@JaredTVW]

Even though it’s a magic bow, I guess I would have assumed Fiendish Blow only worked on magic classes, not magic weapons.

[@IntrusiveThot420]

Nope :) it just adds magic to the attack! Super convenient.

[@wesnohathas1993]

In some cases that can even offer a reason to favor Dark Bishop over Warlock. Built-in Fiendish blow for the magic weapon damage as opposed to just Tomefaire.

[@IntrusiveThot420]

@@wesnohathas1993 yeah dark bishop has +4 mag from the class and then fiendish from the class, and you can stack tomefaire from S reason or whatever for +15 attack. Buuuuuut you can also do warlock, with +2 mag from the class and tomefaire from the class, alongside your own tomefaire and fiendish, and you're getting +18. So warlock wins out there too. If you could stack 2 copies of fiendish like you can stack 2 copies of tomefaire, dark bishop would be awesome.

[@remnantryku7112]

Learned something new. Thanks.

[@ferrisffalcis]

"mages are a good class for nuking enemies" "mercedes is the best healer in the game" i'll skip this one lol

[@IntrusiveThot420]

Yeah mercedes being the only healer that can't get ch2 physic is so baaaaad. However, lysithea still nukes everything, even on maddening, so idk what you mean with that one. Worst case they do a gorillion chip damage because all the enemies in 3H have crap RES. Anyway if you don't want to watch, it's just magic sniper hanneman. HV+magic bow means even uninvested he ORKOs most enemies in the game just by existing, and with forging / pagan altar / feeding cats and dogs for arcane crystals you can run the weapon super easily. Also the build only requires you to buy one seal for Sniper. Hanneman comes with an intermediate seal for archer, and starts in mage, so that's fiendish blow and hit+20. Makes him a pretty cheap nuke to get going if you want another one on your team.

[@ferrisffalcis]

@@IntrusiveThot420 sorry, i did not mean to sound rude. I just thought the opening was funny sounding compared to my lived experiences. I thought the build was a very interesting concept

[@IntrusiveThot420]

@@ferrisffalcis yey glad you liked it! But man if you thought this one was bad, watch the caspar one xD

[@ThePaulineu]

This is very useful, thank you! I’ll try this

[@IntrusiveThot420]

Hanneman does *so much* damage like this.

[@114bleachfan]

A few things that you can also acknowledge if you get one magic bow during the story through chess during chapter 7 and something else that is semi important to mention is Hannah actually has the crest of indeach if for whatever reason you don't have hunters volly available there's a 20% chance on both player and importantly enemy phase who's Crest can trigger before the enemy is allowed to follow up with their double attack while not reliable this is actually pretty decent another thing he can boast that is pretty important he only has five less strength growth than the normal archers this means although his strength won't be perfect if you picked up deathblow for example because quite honestly he doesn't need bow crit due to hide crates from snipers are anyways(and his high damage) you can also be an excellent magekiller physically thanks to his decent HP and resistance not to mention the pretty good base stat sniper provides with 17 strength he should be able to catch up to all the other archers in terms of strength relatively quickly he may not be quite as strong but he can definitely come close to their damage output especially with his Crest and on top of this Hanuman actually has the highest damage potential in the entire game even above lsynthia thanks to this build while you could argue any Mage can do this build even if they don't have a boon in bows what you lose is their utility physic, Wrap, fortify, and rescue every Mage has something they can provide utility wise Hanuman does not making him the perfect character to make this class I would actually argue in this class he is easily A+ rank for damage alone not to mention the utility his bow skills provide having silenced + damage is actually incredibly important or even lowering an enemy's resistance so another Mage can pick them off while he stays out of their magic range is beautiful teamwork

[@readyforlol]

This is kinda hard to read with so little punctuation...

[@ultimaterecoil1136]

I mean all mages ain’t doubling on maddening due to weight issues without massive investment. Like at minimum for lysidea for example to double you’d need to have her get into warrior for the minimum strength and darting blow. That’s a decent chunk of investment. Also id say the siege magic alone is more valuable ( especially with hannerman being one of the strongest siege magic users) ohking ballista opponents from a safe distance is real valuable especially at the part 2 battle at gronder field where if you go after the ballista it makes ambush reinforcements show up so you are able to ko the central ballista that covers much of the battlefield without triggering the reinforcements. It can also be useful for taking out troublesome fliers from a safe distance though for some named fliers you may need a second hit from another siege mage or to dance him. Also ohkoing gautier from a safe distance on the final map on golden dear out of its range is hilarious. Though even on maddening his res is low even for an armored unit. Though magic bow sniper is a good thing to have in your pocket when the map doesn’t have either massive range units or fliers that you need to delete from afar. Then you can go magic bow sniper for the superior raw damage at the cost of the potential for breaking maps that siege magic provides. Almost as strong at breaking maps as warp in fact

[@IntrusiveThot420]

Tbh i found with warp+stride, the limited uses of siege tomes weren't very good. Outside of stuff like linked attacks.

[@ultimaterecoil1136]

@@IntrusiveThot420 often times you don’t wanna advance because of map triggers however there are still key enemies you wanna eliminate. A ballista user a flier that’s in a inconvenient spot ect. You try to warp or stride up to them you trigger the reinforcements and unless you use someone with rescue you get the unit that used stride or anyone frail in the area ganked by ambush reinforcements. While there’s multiple ways to handle this problem siege magic is just a simple one. You just never cross that line to trigger the reinforcements to begin with. No need to worry about packing impregnable wall when most your physical units are flying forcing a mage to take a gambit that’s built for a physical unit or making sure the people getting targeted have guard adjutants or blessing on them. Also in boss ko maps siege magic can work just as effectively to take them out as a warper unless the boss has unusually high res when normally enemies have lower res. Just another thing for the toolbox that can be quite handy to have. Lots of people can do ludicrous damage in fact even Ignaz can one round bosses with the same magic bow build with much weaker magic growth and bases. Few have siege magic though so it’s something more unique to hannerman’s Kit.

[@IntrusiveThot420]

@@ultimaterecoil1136 well, i think it comes down to blind/casual playstyle vs optimizing. Like, if you're playing with the intent of routing all enemies, sniper hanneman is better because his damage output means he kills more stuff more reliably per turn than warlock Hanneman. You're probably soaking reinforcements with avo tanks or wrath/vantage setups, rendering them pointless, or you're blocking their spawns wholesale. And if you're warp skipping maps, you're ignoring hanneman entirely in favor of faster strats and stronger units. Meteor is good utility, and especially for a blind playthrough it is fantastic. And if you're a casual player that doesn't want to waste their precious time memorizing spawns and maps (i don't blame anyone for this 😂) it's definitely good too. But you also don't *need* him for a casual or blind run. All the different playstyles are just as valid, and they're optimal in their own ways for the type of fun you want to have.

[@ultimaterecoil1136]

@@IntrusiveThot420 yeah but when magic bow sniper has so much raw damage output that even ignaz is 1 rounding most things with it one must question why use hannerman for it over ignaz since he shows up earlier and magic Ignaz will likely be best in terms of raw damage for him early game since his magic growth is about the same as strength but he lucks out with blizzard for a base spell which combined with his high dex can make him crit a lot early while transitioning to magic bow sniper. I mean I suppose you could use both of them but hunter’s volley has so much raw damage that practically anyone can one round using it so it’s not really that unique.

[@IntrusiveThot420]

@@ultimaterecoil1136 i actually made a video on ignatz! Basically, axe crit ignatz gets up and running faster than bow ignatz. kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6CafJKuntdoh8U

[@texteel]

I did not know bowfaire stacks with itself. I expected buffs from the same source to not count more than once

[@IntrusiveThot420]

Right? It's pretty silly that you can stack two Faire skills, AND darting/deathblow, AND str/mag +2 for +18 attack per hit. And then you click the "double the enemy" button and that turns into +36 per round.

[@mikunosaigofan]

Thanks ill try it out next play through

[@brenscott5416]

The sad part is that while this makes better him than before, a properly set up lysithia would still far surpass him( she's genuinely the best unit in the game) and a decent hapi or Mercedes are still also a big step above. I've tried to give him a chance but it's hard not having the big three

[@angel-ts1lz]

you do realize they have different niches (and different recruitments)? hanneman (from my experience) is decently more tanky than the other characters listed and again, the sniper class is insane in FE3H and the fact he has easier access/reason to go that direction than other mages is a boon for him. also, in general, comparing basically any mage unit to lysithea is unfair. she’s insane and not particularly balanced outside of squishiness LMAO

[@brenscott5416]

@@angel-ts1lz I mean I did call her the best in the game for a reason, but if we're going to compare tankyness then look no further than Petra the dodge tank and the broken ass lord's. Still any mage unit (lysithia included) can be build to have just as good range as any bow user ( with lysithia being able to have godlike range thanks to the staff you can get) hanerman could be good, but the game has so many broken characters it almost doesn't matter unfortunately Edit: forgot to mention how unbelievably tanky Hilda has been for me anytime I've been able to use her

[@gallalameblook9911]

"genuinely the best unit in the game" *laughs in B-Wrath B-Vantage Chalice holding Dimitri*, tearing through entire armies in enemy phase, only problem being accuracy *laughs in Raging Storm, casually obliterating Rhea* *laughs in Vengeance* *Laughs in Seteth* Lysithea is a good unit, a monster of warping and a walking nuke. But if you don't work on her Strengh stat by getting her armored knight certification (which is long, pretty much a NG+ exclusive. Ig you can also technically just rush teaching her Warp and then set her teaching goals on Axe and Heavy armor, but that means not going all in on black magic to kill the Death Knight in chapter 4 and that's very sad), she won't double anything except armor knights, making Luna and Seraphim your only offensive spells. And those books can get dry, especially before you unlock Gremory or if you go Dark Flyier And NO don't drag Thyrsus in it. Yes Lysithea can use it very well as an excellent spellcaster, but her having the matching crest isn't usefull. Had thyrsus been the relic of Dominic and Crusher the Gloucester, people would still put the Thyrsus on Lysithea But yes she's a very good mage, probably the best along with Constance, Hapi and Linhardt.

[@brenscott5416]

@@gallalameblook9911 well pair her with the staff that works for the crest of gloster and the dark knight mastery and she can become a magic sniper with more range than bow weilders and more damage than any character in the game, I had her one shot final bosses with little to no concern and if she has nosferatu and the dark knight class, she'll get enough defense to survive and heal herself constantly. She is a fucking monster on the battlefield. Dimitri can be damn good but if we were to tier things lysithia belongs in SS, she's completely broken, even in enemy phase, genuinely never had a problem keeping her alive in my 4 runs of the game

[@gallalameblook9911]

​@@brenscott5416 First : I said don't drag the Thyrsus in this conversation, because it's not an innate boon of her. It's a relic that works well on her, but it's not specific to her. Second : on what difficulty did you play the game ? Because I clearly think you're overrating Lysithea here. She's a low S-tier, high A-tier, not a SSS-tier. On maddening, even with an enemy phase White-Knight Nosferatu, her base defenses stats and growths are way too low, you WILL get OSed by the War-Master and assassins, especially considering you can't utilise Vantage with Nosferatu and your learned Authority Abitlity is B-Desperation, which is trash. You could have a point if she had B-Vantage, but she does not. She is a powerhouse, and can tear down demonics beasts to shreds with Seraphim, but when you compare her to "Dimitri Warp-me-in-I-1v15-easy Blaiddid" and "Edgelord von-1-turn-the-Immaculate-One Hresvelg" she's not even close.

[@calebshmanderson]

I have tried War Master Hanneman, it was very effective and funny

[@ferintown6628]

Ok so at 1:10 I’d say Mercedes is easily the worst of the 3 house healers Simply because she just can’t do shit besides heal Marianne has silence and can attack on the physical or magical side Lindhart has warp Fortify is bad

[@IntrusiveThot420]

AGREED. I made this video too early and that's the #1 thing I would change in it. Mercedes is the *ONLY* healer that can't get Physic by chapter 2. That alone makes her bad because she lacks good quality healing in the hardest part of the game.

[@ferintown6628]

Can we just talk about how garbage fortify is in this game? It fucks with vantage and vengeance strats which are super good in this game Also divine pulses make it way worse because if you get in an ass clench situation you can just turn back time 15 times to prevent it

[@IntrusiveThot420]

@@ferintown6628 100% agreed 😂 three houses is such a player-phase-centric game that I actually had no idea how to play earlier entries in the series when i tried them out.

[@selfsustainedautocannibalVampi]

Merci is the worst healer because Live to Serve eats 7 secs of your time every time you heal. Fortify is amazing just because it doesnt do that. Just don't put her anywhere near your vantage, defiant, vengence, King of Grappling, or desperation users.

[@hellothere2570]

@@selfsustainedautocannibalVampi If you have to deliberately keep your healer far from your other units for the healer to work, they're the worst healer

[@viviblue7277]

He’s good but is he good enough to use over all the other good units? I’d be inclined to say no.

[@IntrusiveThot420]

Depends on how many player phase nuke machines you want lol. He's interchangable with like, Shamir or something if you just want to pump out damage :D

[@Scummoner]

Sometimes I get the feeling to retry FE3H, but then I realize I don’t understand anything that’s going on lol.

[@nessdbest8708]

yeah no war master hanneman is the best

[@jerry3115]

either items in the abyss altar are locked behind main story progression, or i need to go actually beat the final boss of cindered shadows, cuz there is no magic bow to be found...

[@IntrusiveThot420]

I'm fairly sure the items are locked behind main story progression. What chapter are you at? If you can't get a magic bow, I suggest you either forge one (via feeding animals for arcane crystals) or just leave hanneman as an adjutant with a bow while you grind through to unlock his masteries

[@jerry3115]

@@IntrusiveThot420 thanks for the quick response! I just beat the remire chapter, so I think that puts me on chapter 9. I can always use him as a mage for now, since thoron is quite good.

[@IntrusiveThot420]

@@jerry3115 ah yeah, I'm not entirely sure *when* the bow becomes available. I usually check the altar during my playthroughs and base my recruitment timing off of when the bow shows up.

[@spuriusbrocoli4701]

bshfbwrfhkbwrk that bit of footage of Bernadetta one-shotting Nemesis.

[@IntrusiveThot420]

Vengeance is completely crazy. Bernie can one-shot the Death Knight in chapter 4 or whatever that really early underground chapter when Flayn gets kidnapped is with it.

[@seanm.9942]

Yoooooo another FE fan who’s also a Prism fan? Sick

[@javalapa8952]

Idk I find this a bit redundant. He doesnt need speed or doubling cuz he one shots everything anyways. And he ends up with more range than a sniper with s rank reason and certain items. Nevermind the utility of meteor one shoting ballistas. and if you do NG+ just give him Dominic or Noa crests to get free uses of Meteor

[@IntrusiveThot420]

I found he didn't one-shot things without doubling for me on maddening NG on any of my runs. Not without investing stat boosters and cooking sessions. Meteor is definitely nice, and you can get two casts if you're in Warlock, but I find between stride and flying mounts everywhere ballistae are usually a non issue.

[@Ninjaananas]

The NG+ crest items sadly have really low activation probabilities. But I would also keep him as a mage.

[@javalapa8952]

@@Ninjaananas yeah, I usually only need the 2 uses anyways. then the rest of the map he can just do 5 range Thorons to kill everything

[@Ninjaananas]

@@javalapa8952 I prefer Dark Knight because of the movement. But Warlock is also good.

[@hexmaniacciaran]

so I've been looking to get back into the game after taking a break from doing every route on maddening and Sniper Hanneman and War Cleric Manuela are calling out to me

[@hartincmajor202]

Mercedes is the best healer in the game. That's a take alright

[@IntrusiveThot420]

Yeahhhhh lol if you read the other comments, I didn't know much about the game when I made this video xD Mercy is the ONLY healer that doesn't get physic in ch2 which makes her the worst healer in the hardest part of the game. Tbh my Ignatz video is probably the best of the 3 i've done

[@zekdom]

What do you think about Dorothea? Is Dancer her best class? Do you think Magic Bow-Sniper would serve her well?

[@IntrusiveThot420]

Dorothea feels kinda meh to me. Gremory dorothea has 2 casts of Meteor, which really helps against the ridiculous Maddening enemy formations. Sometimes it's good to meteor an enemy to trigger it to charge out of formation, and doing it twice is great. But constance is better at that.

[@self-sustainedauto-canibal6207]

Not a joke, mortal savant Dorthy is really good. Give her a Woo Dao+/ Cursed sword and use hexblade and she'll crit alot, you can also give her thyssus and defiant magic to make her even better at low health. Then if you want to go crazy give her defiant crit and speed so she crits and doubles everything.

[@Dennis_Ryan_Lynch]

The only problem with Hanneman is there’s not enough Hanneman content

[@Grean-Beans]

Bro did this man just call Mercedes the best healer in the game, r.i.p. linhardt and hapi 😔

[@IntrusiveThot420]

XD ikr, when I made the video I didn't even know Mercedes was the ONLY healer that can't get Physic by chapter 2. Ridiculously bad, no warp, not even something fun like Silence or a combat art nuke. Though tbf I've basically written this exact comment 20,000 times on this video too lmaooo

[@uirusux]

..so what's the problem

[@IntrusiveThot420]

Hanneman's too slow to kill stuff without Hunter's Volley, which guarantees he can double anything and kill virtually anyone without investment :D

[@aerbald]

Mayday, help me please. I'm currently chapter 8. Just recruited Hanneman. There is more item in the pagan altar than before, yet no magic bow in store (altar too). When looking for information i read that the bow should be available already, is that correct ? This is NG maddening church route ashen wolves/knight of seiros only run.

[@IntrusiveThot420]

Oh goooood uh not sure. What's your professor rank? If it's C, Worst case you can use uh, i think 4 arcane crystals and a steel bow to make a magic bow!

[@IntrusiveThot420]

Ok you need B+ professor rank, and only 2 crystals! Otherwise, have you beat the whole DLC? For now you could probably backpack Hanneman with another character for weapon xp..?

[@IntrusiveThot420]

Usually I wait to recruit Hanneman until I see the bow show up in the store. I wish I had said that in this video.

[@aerbald]

@@IntrusiveThot420 DLC beaten, everything unlock. The magic bow shows up early in NG+ only as i read. I guess i'll have to wait for it to unlock at the same chapter as brave weapons which is unknown to me which chapter it is. Maybe 10-11 or post-skip. I should be C+ professor level, close to B. Whatever comes first then. Thank you for your support

[@IntrusiveThot420]

@@aerbald keep checking at the altar, I made this video on a fresh file when I noticed the magic bow became available and I still had time to recruit Hanneman :) so it definitely appears in NG without needing NG+.

[@ShumsBiggestFan]

He tells you to take off your clothes :)

[@IntrusiveThot420]

I don't know if he has that "yes daddy" energy though 🤔

[@scrapyarddragon]

fascinating.

[@jerry3115]

ok but meteor

[@IntrusiveThot420]

Jeremiah peters but meteor can't even crit T_T

[@jerry3115]

who cares? it has huge range, hits really hard, and does aoe damage. hanneman is perfectly suited towards using meteor with his high mag and dex.

[@IntrusiveThot420]

Jeremiah peters you're not gonna orko more than 2 enemies per stage with meteor. If you play on a mode easier than fresh NG Maddening it doesn't matter, though.

[@RandyNgelale]

Constance. Problem solved.

[@IntrusiveThot420]

Randy Ngelale bolting is not that good, and constance's dex and luck growths are so low that she needs serious investment to turn into a decent crit build. Seriously, on maddening, bolting and meteor are not as strong as hunter's volley magic bow spam.

[@Sin606]

I might not see the big picture, is this a problem?

[@IntrusiveThot420]

Haha, the "problem" could have been more clear. The problem is his speed; the solution is Hunter's Volley with the Magic Bow.

[@Sin606]

@@IntrusiveThot420 I think I get it now. I didn't play the game but kinda like FE and watch vids about it. I think it's crazy he's a mage, but if he wants he'll use a bow.

[@Lostduxington]

Wait, so what was the problem then?

[@IntrusiveThot420]

Hanneman's speed sucks so he can't double enemies besides armored knights :D Hunter's Volley lets him double with his huge magic stat and destroy basically every enemy in the game!

[@youtubedeletedmyaccountlma2263]

can't you just do the same with literally every other mages?? lol

[@IntrusiveThot420]

That's why i added a couple parts to the video :D 1) bow strength (hubert and mercedes have other more urgent roles) 2) extremely low seal investment (literally just one seal for Sniper, as opposed to all other mages who need seals for mage, archer, and sniper to do the same thing) 3) 55% magic growth + good base magic He does it the most easily and basically the best because other units can't really fill the role.

[@idkdk569]

is giving up meteor worth it tho?

[@IntrusiveThot420]

Giving up 1-2 meteors in exchange for a unit that can one-round basically anything in the game? Up to you. Personally I like having a couple nuke units

[@LoneWolf-km7rg]

OK and how about not wasting training points on Hanneman and just keep him as a spare unit?

[@IntrusiveThot420]

That's the best part! He barely needs any points and he can nuke endgame units.

[@LoneWolf-km7rg]

I've got him as a spare Dark Mage on Edelgard's route on Maddening. I don't know about the Magic Bow when you have so much range as a magic user with Thrysus anyway. I never found the crest useful on Bernadetta. Maybe I'll try this out on a Blue Lions Maddening run where I actually use Ferdinand to honor Billy.

[@LoneWolf-km7rg]

I have Manuela as a spare Trickster.

[@IntrusiveThot420]

@@LoneWolf-km7rg magic bow is super trivial to get and unlike magic, it can forcibly double every enemy in the game, even endgame swordmasters. I highly recommend it. Hunter's Volley Magic Bow with average growths will kill most endgame units on most maps.

[@pepeelghetto1231]

0:09 This is just plain wrong XD

[@IntrusiveThot420]

Find me an LTC video that doesn't warp skip and I might consider your statement lol But yeah I was making this riiiight as 3H was getting really solved. I still think sniper hanneman is sick though, he's got the easiest time getting HV out of all the mages due to his starting ranks and boon, and magic bow HV is like a nuclear bomb.

[@pepeelghetto1231]

@@IntrusiveThot420 I meant in the context of damage. Rescue and warp are strong, moreso than the mages themselves. But yeah, back in the day We all were still figuring things out haha Also yeah HV is sick XD

[@GeneralCane]

Am I the only one that barely messed with battalions in this game? They never seemed necessary. I'm sure they'd be more useful in maddening but I never really played that mode. Even hard just felt like uncreatively and haphazardly inflated difficulty. It was a major letdown compared to what you get out of, say, FE7's hard mode.

[@IntrusiveThot420]

Three Houses was my first FE and I've never played on a difficulty besides Maddening, so I don't know. Very excited for the next real FE game though!

[@haruhirogrimgar6047]

I found the video interesting and it is well edited. But because of how you pronounce "niche" this video is a travesty.

[@IntrusiveThot420]

Haha, yeah it's "NEESH".

[@Guillaumelapomme]

Just watched the video and yeah, that's all I can think of haha it was all very good otherwise haha

[@anonanon69]

Who's your waifu?

[@IntrusiveThot420]

Linhardt

[@Nicolas-tq5vg]

Warcrimes incarnate I couldn’t agree more

[@rosheafan]

@@IntrusiveThot420 Based

[@altair3545]

reinhardt

[@leaffinite2001]

Good video but unfortunately you say niche like that so im gonna dislike

[@IntrusiveThot420]

Hahaha you're not the first one to point that out 😂

[@rosheafan]

@@IntrusiveThot420 Lucky for you, the dislike actually helps the algorithm recommend videos. I'm gonna like this video and subscribe, since I like this style of video.

[@IntrusiveThot420]

@@rosheafan oh yey! I'll have to work on some similar stuff then :) i haven't played 3 houses in a while but I do have a Caspar video that is questionable and a good Ignatz one!