The reason jones was able to stay away from stipe because stipe is slower than a turtle on Xanax
@bryanfox67266 күн бұрын
Stipe's Stand-Up ... I don't even need to say it, do I? Aspinall's a Horse of a Different Color ...
@bryanfox67266 күн бұрын
Stipe doesn't LOVE the Game ... He does his thing ... Aspinall's a Martial Artist ... It's an Entirely Different Thing Altogether ...
@Dru20374 күн бұрын
Tom likes to move forward which plays into Jon's hands.
@bryanfox67264 күн бұрын
@@Dru2037 That doesn't matter when you have no power in them ...
@patrickjorda55233 күн бұрын
For as slow as stipe was he was in the right place pretty often.. not enough but he still got in a few good shots
@Timonathon6 күн бұрын
The truth isn’t as hard as I am when I see a Che notification
@garfrockbreadtroll6 күн бұрын
Nice to see you Mr tzu
@mrt4456 күн бұрын
The majority of his predictions are wrong. He previously said Khamzat was trash, now he's acting like he's always claimed that Khamzat was the best middle weight.
@Timonathon6 күн бұрын
@@mrt445 don’t talk about my king mma Che like that ever again
@Timonathon6 күн бұрын
@@garfrockbreadtroll always nice to meet a fan
@monkeeeking21146 күн бұрын
@@Timonathonyeah thats right!
@James-7126 күн бұрын
Jon is more skilled than Aspinall (in everything except boxing) But Aspinall is just way faster and way bigger that I can't see Jones beating him without being perfect for 25 minutes. If grandpa Stipe can land punches on Jon imagine what aspinall would do
@Bon_Gamin986 күн бұрын
Perfect analysis. People overcomplicate it but it's just that simple, Jon is surely overall more skilled than Tom, but Tom is younger, faster, more powerful and way bigger. I don't think Jon has many chances, that's why he is ducking
@AkiMinorikoOfficial6 күн бұрын
How can anyone confidently say that Aspinall is less skilled everywhere when we've barely seen him fight in the UFC for more than a combined 5 minutes. There's a lot about him that's still unknown.
@liamcoulter96276 күн бұрын
Just semantics, but do you not think Tom probably has a better submission game? Top pressure, chain wrestling etc. give to Jon, I guess it’s tough to really know with how little we’ve seen of Tom
@joeswanson54866 күн бұрын
@@AkiMinorikoOfficialaspinal has 20 minutes in the octagon still short though
@claudemaggard71626 күн бұрын
Yall are all idiots to think tom is gonna beat jon jones. Jon is gonna slow the fight down. So he can control it. Just like he did in the first round against stipe.
@Rix54A6 күн бұрын
I think a strange point people are completely ignoring is that whenever Stipe decided to simply not just sit there eating kicks and went forward to pressure Jon. His ONLY answer to forward pressure was literally turning his back and running away caution to the wind. Just run away and restart at kicking range and there goes Stipe doing nothing until he feels like pressuring again (Which his corner was begging him to do). Now can anyone really look at that and say confidently: "Oh yeah Aspinall, Volkov or even Pav would fall prey for something like that and just give up the pressure" When Volkov was facing Pavlovich. He needed to establish a strong jab and straights while keeping himself away to deter his advances. All Jones had to do vs Stipe was turn his back and run back to kicking range. I don't understand how this performance gives people confidence.
@gigachad68856 күн бұрын
Jones fans have low IQ and are disingenuous because they project themselves onto Jones' success, that's why they'll never be fair (and will continue to claim Jones would win easily while he ducks Aspinall)
@groscaramelmou25836 күн бұрын
Perfectly said. People are arguing about tom, but to me, there is not a single hw with some wrestling skills who would lose against jones, not in the top 5
@minovictor6 күн бұрын
All time, Jon jones is the goat but current jon jones is getting starched by Tom in 1-2 rounds in my humble opinion. Jon looked good against stipe but Stipe looked TERRIBLE. If stipe said fuck it and applied pressure for the whole first round it might have been a very different fight. Those few moments where stipe landed some shots, Tom would do more damage and if Jon does that running away defensive thing, Tom will chase him down. I genuinely don’t even think it would be a close fight 5:03 this part right here, Tom aspinall is getting a finish
@Warpig96 күн бұрын
Exactly! Francis would've just kept chasing him until he caught him clean.
@Rix54A5 күн бұрын
@@Warpig9 Not even chasing, Francis is not only either taller or exact same height but him and Jon have the same reach. This tall man defence of fully extending his arms to run away is not doing anything. Francis best tool remains a really nasty check hook he does when the opponent is trying to get away. In a striking bout he's cooked. There's literally no argument that can be made about it based on any of Jon's past fights spawning the last 5yrs.
@ArtemGurevich-t2d6 күн бұрын
Big Tom finishes Jon “💉💊👩🤛🤰🚗🏃” Jones inside 2 rounds
@claudemaggard71626 күн бұрын
Your such a stupid little man. How did you come up with that
@bigruckus86646 күн бұрын
Forgot the lgbt flag bro.
@ArtemGurevich-t2d6 күн бұрын
@ true that
@charlieruisseau24766 күн бұрын
and where's the duck? :)
@ArtemGurevich-t2d6 күн бұрын
@ 🦆
@junkmale37636 күн бұрын
bro coulda got new teeth if jones just took a lil less steroids
@davepowell71682 күн бұрын
Guy isn't planning a beauty pageant fortunately. Valid opinions l hear
@hanzohasashi45346 күн бұрын
Tom Aspinal walks around 13 lbs heavier than Jones. This whole "he's 30 lbs bigger" thing is a Jones quote.
@FrigidHeights5 күн бұрын
you realize that he literally just weighed in at about 20lbs heavier than Jones this past weekend as the backup fighter? 20lbs is a huge deal especially when most of Jon’s weight is fluff because he’s not built like a heavyweight. Tom’s size advantage would be substantial not to mention his age.
@shawna78135 күн бұрын
There's a difference between walk around weight and fighting weight...
@ColmPadraig5 күн бұрын
What's your source for that?
@MuhGlassRibs5 күн бұрын
remember stipe like to say that ngannou was 50lbs heavier than stipe. it's just mma exaggeration
@MrToadGaming5 күн бұрын
Tom normally weighs 255 while Jon fights at his best at 225. Jon got up to 235 against stipe while looking a little slower and still giving up 20 pounds to Tom
@elu5ive5 күн бұрын
Aspinall became INTERIM CHAMPION by destroying active heavyweights ranked 3rd, 4th, 5th ,7th, 8th in their prime, not a retired old man who hasn't been in the ring for 3.5 years. Duck Jones is a coward.
@wolfgangrecordings6 күн бұрын
the hard truth about jones vs aspinall is that it won't happen. jones will retire rather than get smoked by tom, i just hope they strip him first 'cos he doesn't deserve to retire as champion if he avoided fighting the #1 contender
@jass23756 күн бұрын
Jones will just vacate the belt and fight pereira , he wont retire. its a big money fight and much easier for him.
@wolfgangrecordings6 күн бұрын
@@jass2375 dana said pretty unequivocally that jon won't be fighting pereira during the post-fight for 309 though, he pretty much said fight tom or fight nobody
@MiggsMultiple5 күн бұрын
It looks like a different hype angle to me...Instead of insults and aggression he's avoiding and then he'll do it White canned Periera Jones says he won't retire Jones gets the money that's worth possibly losing for, why wouldn't he?
@JayS.-mm3qr5 күн бұрын
@@MiggsMultiplelol no I think Jon is legitimately ducking. I don't think it's even negotiation. I think he will just ask for a number they won't give. He asking for "fvk you" money in more than one way. The money asked for will be a fu to to the ufc and fans. Lol. It's all his way of refusing to fight Tom. Figures he can just fight Alex for an easier fight and get paid lots still.
@gentlemandemon5 күн бұрын
@@wolfgangrecordings you can never trust anything Dana says. He'll turn on a dime and call you stupid for remembering things he's said in public
@ArtemGurevich-t2d6 күн бұрын
Fedor is a better HW than Jones bc at 220 lbs he has beaten so many guys that had nearly 50 lbs on him
@groscaramelmou25836 күн бұрын
That's not even comparable man. Every hw champ in the ufc history is a better hw than jones, who did jones has beaten at hw? The most favorable matchup for him in the ufc and a 42 yo retired legend..
@bryanfox67266 күн бұрын
@@groscaramelmou2583 Clearly.
@EG-mw8kp6 күн бұрын
@@groscaramelmou2583Nah, that's a dumb answer, the real reason why it is not comparable is because Jon doesn't have Fedors power. But if you think you know Jon Jones wins to everyone on Hw except Aspinall
@sanjayjohnson58306 күн бұрын
@EG-mw8kp very true bro atleast someone has some sense left l. john beat gane fair and square. realistivally John Jones beat every heavyweight anyday. only tom and Sergei Pavlovich can give him a competitive fight
@TomAustinIII6 күн бұрын
Fedor weighs 240
@iOwnASubaru6 күн бұрын
It’s not disrespectful to say Stipe looked old, slow, washed and lost. If anything, it’s respectful towards the Stipe of old and how good he once was whilst Jones fans try to overvalue this win like Stipe was Elite. Not even the goat of the division is going to perform great being closer to 45 than 40, retired for 4 years and coming off of a KO loss. Always will be a legend though.
@AnnoyedFrog-wu1zi6 күн бұрын
Franchis vs Aspinall is the biggest heavyweight fight. Both with insane power.
@cynicalmandate4 күн бұрын
It could be... But Aspinall is just younger, faster, sharper. Francis definitely can, but if the match drags it likely goes to Tom.
@KortifexКүн бұрын
Don't see aspinal doing well in that fight lol Francis takedown defense incredibly improved and his ko power is unmatched he will likely get slept
@darksteeltorqueo43976 күн бұрын
MMA Che good analysis. I am in my late 40s. From my experience power is not the last thing to go. I think the saying sometimes confuses strength and power. Power is generated from speed more than muscular strength. That's why you see boxers are typically skinny with good abs but not huge muscles. They want to generate power through speed like snapping strikes like a rubber band. As you age those rubber bands age and they can't keep up. You can still be pretty strong though. I could probably still bench press what I could 25 years ago if you gave me 6 months to lift and get back into it. But could the current version of myself "beat down" the 24 yr old version of myself? No.
@jonathanthrasher706 күн бұрын
This is a solid take There are different kinds of power punches Some are about Accuracy Some are about Timing And those go quicker then raw power Like Conor vs Rumble
@Warpig96 күн бұрын
I think they call it muscle elasticity.
@motsy156 күн бұрын
First round finish. Tom is a lot bigger , stronger and faster as well as being really skilled. And Jon knows it. He doesn’t like fighting guys with a chance to beat him
@FrigidHeights5 күн бұрын
did you just start watching mma like 2 years ago? What about when he fought prime Rampage? Rashad Evans? TRT Vitor? Prime Shogun? Machida? DC? Gus? Dude has fought many many guys that could’ve beaten him, they just didn’t.
@matrixxx36625 күн бұрын
@@FrigidHeightsAll fighters are different. It's true Tom hasn't faced anyone like Jones, but that goes both ways. Because every fighters has their unique styles. And throughout his career Jones has fought and beaten lot of fighters who were all different from each other. Of course Gustafson first fight and Reyes are the most debated topic In his career. Even to this day. And he didn't want a rematch with Reyes. Let's not forget that.
@neeks3782Күн бұрын
@@FrigidHeightsget out of here with your facts
@FirstnameLastname-do1px6 күн бұрын
I wouldn’t say Dominick Reyes was any more skilled than Jones in any one martial art (either than Boxing, which I think Aspinall is more skilled than Jones is as well) but the fact that he was so much faster really helped him in that aspect.
@Kaisukiii5 күн бұрын
lets be honest Reyes is a bum
@FirstnameLastname-do1px5 күн бұрын
@ A ‘bum’ that beat Jon Jones.
@gamessportsandmore33715 күн бұрын
@@Kaisukiiiand he beat jon.
@Kaisukiii5 күн бұрын
@@gamessportsandmore3371 jon jones didnt take him seriously though, Jon Jones would beat him up if he actually was taking him seriously
@chiquita6835 күн бұрын
Jones adjusted to the speed in 2 rounds and won
@MasterSpencer24836 күн бұрын
Your videos bring me a smile in a way that Guru, Bedtime, etc don’t. Your videos feel like I’m chatting with a friend I really like
@kevinmurphy58786 күн бұрын
This is true
@rajyavardhansingh44915 күн бұрын
Lucas Tracy & MMA Che>>>>>
@bisonbeard21215 күн бұрын
Stop being gay for him, dude
@thezerowulf20466 күн бұрын
0:30 not some mew front teeth? Or is that all you want for Christmas?
@suavek31286 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@h2woah1276 күн бұрын
Idk if it was just me but Jon seemed a bit slower than he used to move
@mrt4456 күн бұрын
He definitely is a lot slower, even during the Gane fight. He's no longer in his prime. I don't see him beating Aspinall or Ngannou right now.
@fosyay17806 күн бұрын
That happens when you age and put on weight
@Richardinho-gi7pi6 күн бұрын
what are you serious I can't believe it I thought a 38 year old would exactly how he did when he was 28
@Kancerru6 күн бұрын
He looked way faster than in the Ciryl Gane fight, at least.
@sam2clean9816 күн бұрын
Jon jones striking has always been slow to me
@Jacksonmma1236 күн бұрын
bro is really taking credit for my slip
@kevinmurphy58786 күн бұрын
Stipe should have known he was at a major disadvantage and gone ooga booga mode from the bell. He should have been lunging at Jones swinging haymakers from the hips with every ounce of power he had. He needed to fight like Michael Chandler on PCP.
@MuhGlassRibs6 күн бұрын
and jones takes him down with him getting off balance chasing him
@clockworkslave01805 күн бұрын
he would have gassed out, he was too old to pose any threat
@tomig_95 күн бұрын
Dumb take . That plays into Jones game
@kevinmurphy58785 күн бұрын
@@tomig_9 if they fought they way they just did 100 times, Stipe is winning 0 times. If they fought 100 times and Stipe spazzed, I'd say he flukes out a good 4-5 wins out of 100
@Pfannkuchenkanone5 күн бұрын
What is "Ooga Booga mode"?
@MuhGlassRibs6 күн бұрын
One thing people dont remember is that jones cranked on stipe's elbow like he did glover. that could have taken some pop out of his right arm. And the hellbows and the body kicks did slow him down
@305thief84 күн бұрын
1:47 disagree his Dominick Reyes fight he looked pretty average compared to how he usually fights we don’t see his unorthodox fighting style there
@timothybrowneel33666 күн бұрын
This was the most level headed and thought out perspective on this situation that I have heard. Very well done 👍
@mikerelva69156 күн бұрын
Any time you think Jon is going to have a hard fight, he steam rolls the guys. It's the fights you think 'Oh boy, this is gonna be a waste" that he struggles. The guys steps up, or "pulses up", to the occasion. He is so fast with the grappling early at heavyweight. Before the action starts he is on a body lock and BOOM. Dude is down getting smashed or passed. I think his work with Gordon Ryan has really paid off. He is so good at using his range and not getting hit. He won't get in boxing range often as he uses teep and kicks to keep you at range. I can totally see Tom blitzing him and ending it soon, but I really won't be surprised if Jones just man handled him. It's the fight to make, but I'm leaning towards Jones at this point. He is the closest to Mayweather of our sport as we got, the guy just doesn't lose and Aspinall has lost multiple times already.
@matrixxx36625 күн бұрын
@@mikerelva6915Two of his fights were controversial. Especially Reyes fight and Gustafasson first fight, and are the most debated of all his fights. To beat Jones you need a top striker like them with great takedown defence. Both Gus and Reyes had crisp boxing and was tagging Jones a lot. I think you need more than that to beat Jones. You have to be more creative with your strikes and not a head hunter all the time. This is why Jones is In a position where top strikers In this era have bad ground game. So you could say he has all the advantage In a fight with Alex or a rematch with Gane. However, If their takedown defence have Improved a lot and are able to keep Jones on the feet like Gus and Reyes did first time, Jones will be In more trouble than he has ever been. Because they are not just top strikers but also creative Kickerboxers and Muay Thai fighters that can close the distance with him on the feet. They would target his leggs a lot more. And that something Jones is not very used to. He is used to opponents target his chin most of all. With them he will have to deal with their body kicks, legg kicks, knees and elbows. While time will just try to box with him. Which can do the job now that he is older and slower. Hence why he wants that very big fat paycheck incase he loses.
@matrixxx36624 күн бұрын
@@mikerelva6915 Aspinal has that speed that could catch him. That's about it. I assume he will be trying to knock him out from the start. If Gane and Alex had his takedown defense, there is no doubt In my mind Jones would have been ko'd or tko'd In the championship rounds. Because they are not headhunters and would target different part of his body kicks because as World champion Kickboxers and Muay Thai fighters they are use to attack with punches and kicks In different ways but also used to being attacked that way. It pose a different challenge to Jones then what he is used to. He is used to stretch his hands to protect his face. With them on the feet he has to worry about every part of his body.
@discoshrew74036 күн бұрын
Perfect breakdown of the situation. Even chael said it the other day “there’s not a single man walking the earth who weighs 30lbs less than me that I can’t beat in a fight”
@ILYxIW6 күн бұрын
To piggyback on that, I hate when people seem to think heavyweights are all just terrible and easy to beat. While they definitely aren’t as technically skilled, the size and strength makes up for it. Thats why you don’t see long reigning heavyweights, you can lose to a less skilled fighter if they just catch you with something big or rip a submission with crazy strength. If heavyweights were trash, then the ripped 205ers would just move up and dominate the division but that doesn’t happen.
@bourneslippy80395 күн бұрын
“Hands up” is a bit of a fallacy in mma-those little gloves don’t offer near the protection of boxing gloves and punches get past them pretty easily. Slipping is more effective. *Edit-unless you’re poking eyes of course 😅
@zacharymorris99175 күн бұрын
The dramatic difference between 37 and 42 is only appreciable after you've lived it. For me, there was less difference between 18 & 38.
@CybertruckCityКүн бұрын
What happens? What is the difference?
@HeliodromusScorpio6 күн бұрын
Stipe looked like he was 55
@forgive.them.6 күн бұрын
He lasted longer than gane who probably beats aspinall lmao
@troy34236 күн бұрын
@@forgive.them.I want whatever you're smoking
@matthewr9566 күн бұрын
@@forgive.them.No grappling Gane😂😂, knocked down by tai tuivasa😂
@joeswanson54866 күн бұрын
@@matthewr956tuivasa still beats aspinal
@AkiMinorikoOfficial6 күн бұрын
@@joeswanson5486Aspinall easily beat Pavlovich and Volkov, who both destroyed Tuivasa.
@yoyochan66686 күн бұрын
I'ma Charles fan too but having a giant cut and then two of the same posters of him on the walk is crazy
@The_Libationist6 күн бұрын
The two guys who I reckon could actually punish Tom for his lacklustre boxing defense would be Pavloich and Ngannou. And, well, we all saw what happened to Pav and we will probably never see Ngannou.
@pt57286 күн бұрын
I learned why Jones didn’t want smoke with Ngannou
@no_going_back84566 күн бұрын
Watch the Gane vs Ngganou fight Jones has the best distance management and would keep his range and tire Francis out. But Francis is still dangerous and can ko him.
@DravkatRakhmonessis5 күн бұрын
@@no_going_back8456 Keep his distance just like he did against against reyes and santos against a guy who is bigger than him with the same long limbs?
@josieandy58746 күн бұрын
Great analysis Che. However, I have yet to hear you sing "O Hino" by Fernandinho in flawless Brazilian Portuguese, so I'm not convinced that you really are much of a Charles Oliveira fan.
@mrnaps67346 күн бұрын
Charles’ walkout song is so good
@rezyraiden79316 күн бұрын
who wouldve thought a 41 year old MMA/Fire Fighter would have aged well
@joeswanson54866 күн бұрын
dc a 41 year old mma/food guy did well against Stipe in their trilogy
@hipdrive6 күн бұрын
@@joeswanson5486food guy😂😂😂
@christophercurtis93925 күн бұрын
I generally hate MMA youtube channels. I say that with a passion, and my dislike of them is well documented. But I actually enjoy your takes and thoughts on things. Well done
@RMor666 күн бұрын
Great boxing, insane speed, hard to take down, and bigger than him is basically Jon Jones kryptonite
@FrigidHeights5 күн бұрын
If Jon was a natural HW he probably beats Tom ngl. especially in his prime.
@DravkatRakhmonessis5 күн бұрын
@@FrigidHeightsWhat does that even mean. He had the hw frame from the beginning with his height and long limbs, so he is technically a natural hw.
@FrigidHeights5 күн бұрын
@@DravkatRakhmonessis not at all, as explained in this video. Jones doesn’t hold heavyweight well at all. Guys like Gane, Aspinall, Ngannou, are just naturally 250+ and muscular without needing to bulk. They’re just massive. Jones had to bulk heavily to get to 250 and in doing so had a lot of fluff on him, he has a lanky, wiry, frame. hence the name “Bones”. He’s not built like a heavyweight the way Tom is. Tom could absolutely never make LHW in a million years.
@jemillmilton82575 күн бұрын
Can’t wait to see Jon knockout Tom in 2025..!
@ghozt91194 күн бұрын
That’s exactly what’s gonna happen
@leonard.castillo19374 күн бұрын
They sleep on Jones , they think it’s a walk in the Park for Tom . John’s best weapon is the ability to adapt, stay out of harms way and use unorthodox striking .he looks for the path of least resistance, very Tactical. Not like the rest of these HW Lugs that just sit in the pocket whaling at each other till one lands a big shot .
@diegovazquez35666 күн бұрын
Make a breakdown on Yan vs Figgy
@MMAChe.6 күн бұрын
I already did, it's a members only video
@N54htmare6 күн бұрын
@@MMAChe.boooooooooo shame this man shame him
@saltyman666 күн бұрын
@MMAChe. Brooooo im so broke😭😭😭
@efraimsoloway44206 күн бұрын
@@N54htmareif people are dumb enough to pay he has to reward them somehow
@RationalLlama6 күн бұрын
I think the weight will be a big issue for Jon when it comes to grappling with Tom, but when it comes to the striking, it's a different thing. Jones' kicks can hurt any heavyweight on the planet, no matter how big they are. Tom will be severely compromised after eating a few of those kicks to the body. But at the same time, Tom is much faster with his hands and one shot can put Jones down. The thing about Tom is that he's never been tested and Jones will test him. How Tom performs in the championship rounds in a mystery It's such an intriguing fight. I hope it happens.
@claudemaggard71626 күн бұрын
Tom isn't gonna make it to the championship rounds if it goes past two rounds
@JoeMma-oz4zq6 күн бұрын
i think aspinall will win hes just too big and fast but obviously mma is a unpredictable sport
@DefinitelyAhriman5 күн бұрын
I don't think Jon's kicks will be as reliable when facing someone like Aspinall. Tom's use of lateral movement and feints makes just chipping away at him a lot tougher than someone like Stipe. He constantly shifts from side to side, dips in and out of range and feints to force reactions. I'd recommend checking out Mighty Mouse's breakdown of Aspinall vs Pavlovich for a pretty in depth look at it. The question really is can Jon survive the first couple of rounds, and can Tom keep up that high energy fight style past R2. Though if Tom can somehow keep that pace up deep into the fight (I doubt he can), then Jon is probably in for a real rough time.
@JerseyJersey1006 күн бұрын
Jon will shock the world and beat Tom by decision. Been saying it since round 2 vs Stipe. I hope I’m wrong.
@zfin875 күн бұрын
Jones looked like his joints were rusted to the bone compared to his 205 self and you could hear him creaking every time he moved, but Stipe somehow simultaneously looked like he was fighting underwater and on the moon. Aspinall batters both guys who showed up that night in the same night imo
@samlazar10535 күн бұрын
Jones vs stipe is a fight that should have taken place 12 years ago. Stipe is 43 years old for hod sake
@travistodd45763 күн бұрын
Bro switched to the candle like a G instant subscription lol
@yukimamapogiii5 күн бұрын
Excellent video and analysis my friend! Many key points here that let's us predict the possible outcome of their fight!
@Richardinho-gi7pi6 күн бұрын
I still think aspinall's grappling is largely untested, he's good offensively but how good is he defensively, stuffing takedowns from spivac is nice and all but he's not faced anyone with nearly as good wrestling as jon, someone who had no issues taking down a literal olympic bronze medalist
@olivermalcolm70766 күн бұрын
Sheer size and athleticism makes a huge difference between DC and Tom. That same Bronze medalist couldn’t take down stipe in their third fight? Do you think ngannou is a better wrestler than stipe? Because he looked pretty good in that last fight grappling-wise. I know I’m just asking rhetoricals but I think that shows the weakness of your point. It’s all just mma math that you could easily argue from either side
@joshuazylstra57456 күн бұрын
@@olivermalcolm7076very intelligent takes
@Richardinho-gi7pi6 күн бұрын
@@olivermalcolm7076 That was 42 year old dc who blew his back from sneezing tho, I get strength plays into it but jones doesnt just have wrestling his grappling(judo,ground and pound, jui jitsu) as a whole is just so slick
@charleskageleiry71166 күн бұрын
@@Richardinho-gi7pi Jones couldnt take down reyes. Not as simply as jon jones make it out to be dominick reyes and thiago santos arent olympic level wrestlers jon couldnt do shit to them
@olivermalcolm70766 күн бұрын
@@Richardinho-gi7pi firstly, that’s a fair assessment of the dc fight (age was a huge factor for sure) I also think dc at heavyweight was a factor. Much like Jon he’s not built for that weight class and only ever wrestle fucked Derek Lewis who has no grappling. I’d argue that stipe looked similar levels of slow/old last week as DC did in his trilogy fight. I’m not trying to discredit Jon (although I’m not at all a fan of his personality) his grappling is great and I’m super excited to see how coach Gordon Ryan makes a difference in a potential Aspinal fight. I just want to reiterate, although it would be silly to argue Tom is a better wrestler, I don’t actually think he needs to be to beat Jon. Tom’s basic scramble ability and the ability to find a whizzer like the spivac fight are good signs imo that would be silly to put to luck or something of that sort. Long story short, although size/strength is often beaten by considerable skill, size/strength with basic skill can absolutely be a challenge (see Stipe vs Ngannou 2) Fuck me I hope we see the fight lol, if I’m way off after the fact you’ll have some juicy receipts lol
@leolovetoparty5 күн бұрын
That was a great analysis. Thank you
@bouski67527 сағат бұрын
If you won't fight the best in the division because there is larger than normal chance you won't win, you dont deserve to wear the belt of that division. This is about who's the better fighter, not who has the better resume
@EG-mw8kp6 күн бұрын
7:37 Pereiras timing
@ramirosuarez41416 күн бұрын
I get what youre saying when you say Jones was probably on PEDs for the first Gustafsson fight. But to be fair Gus was probably on PEDs as well, since that fight was before usada, its only after they started testing when a lot of fighters declined, except for Jones who tested positive like 3 times after that. So thats why i still stand by Gus in the rematch, Jones cheated and the fight shoulndt even happen
@groscaramelmou25836 күн бұрын
The difference is that jones got caught 4 times for ABUSING peds, not guss. Every pro athlete is on peds, but the usage is controled, they cant abuse of it if they dont wana get caught, but jones, even if he is the most privileged fighter ever, got caught 4 times. So no matter how much guss was on peds this night, bet on the fact that jones got at least double dose
@DaveKaraman5 күн бұрын
“With candlelight”😂
@Person_gu6 күн бұрын
The way i see this fight going is, jones is well rounded , elbows , take downs, kicks as we saw, jones frustrates ppl because you never know at what time jones will kick, or take down, or elbow but tom doesn't have to be bettter or more well rounded than Jones to beat him. All tom has to do is time jones and thats all she wrote. I highly doubt jones will survive a brutal haymaker to his chin. Jones best but still risky defense is to stay at range, stay away and beat tom by points but I highly doubt Jones... despite his kicks and elbows will be able to to escape without something landing on him. Tom is a volume puncher. My prediction is, Tom will knock jones out in the 2nd round
@walterreed58496 күн бұрын
at 5:00 if pereira were in that situation that would be his best chance to beat jones
@someguy7016 күн бұрын
Lil bro who’s “I” you mean Jackson’s 100k.
@MMAChe.6 күн бұрын
@someguy701 nah it costs a pretty penny to appear on stream with me
@Jacksonmma1236 күн бұрын
someguy701 knows whats up.
@MMAChe.6 күн бұрын
@@Jacksonmma123 🫥
@JohnDean16Күн бұрын
Jones’s defence has always been really bizarre. He has a really good chin and a good ability to roll with shots but his boxing defence in particular has always been fucking horrendous. I’m not sure how he’s managed to get away with it for so long.
@mishagelenava29624 күн бұрын
I think Tom's background is catch wrestling. He trained in BJJ after he started with catch wrestling and boxing as a child. But he knicks people out so much and so quickly, ge doesn't showcase his wrestling and grappling skills as much. It would be interesting to really test his wrestling against someone like Jones, who's known as an elite wrestler.
@MrSteezEnvy6 күн бұрын
Why are people making it seem like Jon hasn’t dealt with people SIGNIFICANTLY faster than Tom? We do realize Jon has fought people who are, without a doubt better than Tom right? He fought at LHW for almost 13 years…I get you guys like Tom, but Jesus stop making it seem like Tom is some famed fighter. In all reality Tom’s “career” is comprised of average heavy weights and no real competition, because he joined when the division was at its weakest. No Ngannou, DC, Stipe, Gane or Jon. These takes are just wild. The recency bias is really frustrating with the UFC. It’s mind boggling that you can even form a thought that a guy with 6-7 fights against average at best fighters is somehow better than a guy who spent damn near 16 years beating hall of famers.
@ILYxIW6 күн бұрын
You’re conflating technical ability with actual fighting. Yes Jon fought faster guys and more skilled guys but they’re still way smaller guys. That’s like saying bantamweights beat Tom because they’re faster and more skilled. If 205ers were so easily better than the best heavyweights, they would simply move up and become champions or ranked, but that almost never happens and they don’t usually do that well when they move up.
@CheshMMA6 күн бұрын
So because Jon beat some old middleweights his resume is amazing? Recency bias has purpose. Tony Ferguson was interim champ and title contender, now hes on like an 8 fight losing streak. No ones expecting him to be like the old Tony. Why do you expect Jon to be like old Jon? He spent no where near 16 years beating legends he's been out the sport for years at a time 😂
@FrigidHeights5 күн бұрын
@@CheshMMAWtf? have you taken a look Jon’s resume? Lol it’s far more than old middleweights.
@CheshMMA5 күн бұрын
@@FrigidHeights His best fight early on was Shogun. Most of his opponents were over 10 years older. Hes had 24 fights in 16 years lmfao. His win over TRT vitor was good, but Jones was on steroids himself. Chael sonnen said Jon was pushing him like nothing and he was on juice himself 😂 he beat Lyoto after his prime and winning streak was over. He has daylight robberies on record, which without watching the fights you wouldnt even know.
@MrSteezEnvy5 күн бұрын
@@CheshMMA Everyone he fought went on to fight for 6 - 7 more years in the UFC with the exception of Rampage. They were all in their late 20s or early 30s except for Vitor, who was 35, and btw is on more Roids than probably anyone on the planet. Recency bias has no purpose if you're attempting to compare someone who's fought nothing but greats, to someone who's beat average fighters at best. Tom has no one big on his record except who Curtis Blaydes? Lmao.
@powdermuaythai6 күн бұрын
"all the normal stuff" indeed XD
@THeGoat-x6e6 күн бұрын
Guys this fight has been unofficially announced because Dana has said publicly that he doesn't want Jon to fight Pereira because he knows Alex would lose and that would be diminishing his future stardom, so with that out of the way I think Jones would 100% take the last payday, even if he'll lose. (like Stipe did).
@shawna78135 күн бұрын
You're wrong about the sequence when Stipe lunged in with punches and Jones stepped backed with his chin in the air. Jones is the best at measuring distance in a fight, he had Stipe measured, all he had to do was back away and reset. You don't want to step back with your chin high if a guy is in range, Stipe was never in range...
@DSM-w3z5 күн бұрын
8;34 isnt volk like 5'7 with a 6'0 reach? he certainly should be able to guard like topuria, more of a skill thing than anatomy
@tomjones63475 күн бұрын
Tom is from Atherton, not far from Wigan... Which is the birthplace of catch wrestling. I don't agree that Jon has a better chance with the takedowns etc. if two black belts of a similar level go at it, I'll always pick the bigger more athletic one to win
@FantasySportsZen5 күн бұрын
Excellent video
@AKMcF5 күн бұрын
I reckon that the lack of tape is the biggest issue, Jon needs a solid game plan for Aspinall but there's just too many unknowns for his team to do that. Also, can you imagine Jon taking a calf kick from Aspinall.. it would snap him ! 🤣
@shreyanshraj85425 күн бұрын
The candle lighting actually seems better
@honestabe47684 күн бұрын
Jones' kicks were great, but his hand speed looked slow to me. Tom WILL check Jon's chin. We will see if it holds up. I want to see Tom in the 3rd - 5th rounds. Could get interesting with Jon's elite cardio and championship experience.
@abudujana135 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video, MMA CHE
@justinAclark20756 күн бұрын
We absolutely did see Jon Jones past his prime in this last fight. I think the obvious and most important point is that Tom is younger, bigger, faster, and stronger. Regardless of either of their records, you can see from each of their most recent fights that there is simply no way Jones stands a chance, regardless of his strategy. He's either going to be too slow or too weak, or both. His only hope would be going for nut shots and eye pokes. If Jones actually was in his prime still, he would have a decent chance, even with the weight issues. But even then, I wouldn't say it's a 50/50 toss up. Tom wins any decision that hasn't been bought and paid for, in my opinion, but definitely not a stomp either.
@TemplarX25 күн бұрын
If Jones won't take the Aspinall fight, make a PFL vs UFC fight.
@flame-sky71486 күн бұрын
Great honest breakdown. That’s why there are weight classes.
@Di11zCODM5 күн бұрын
I swear to god people are going to say I’m crazy, but watch the fight back. Jon pretty quickly in the fight realized Stipe is way way past his prime and was fighting like a literal bum. Jon purposefully allowed Stipe to land some shots and drug the fight out way longer than it needed to be to avoid hearing how bad a decision it was to make this fight. He tried his best inside that octagon to make Stipe look good without actually putting himself in danger. That’s why immediately when the post fight interview started he just talked about how good Stipe was in there. This man’s a master manipulator and gas lighter. Dude tried to gaslight all of us watching that fight
@HoboWithAShotgun5 күн бұрын
Jon thinking: Tom, your eyes are as blue as the ocean, and im lost at sea
@neeks3782Күн бұрын
Gay
@apealeal39735 күн бұрын
Candle light bit made me laugh out loud
@wilarz896 күн бұрын
The thing is its hard to compete in MMA, now imagine also being a fireman....
@Bunnelbee36 күн бұрын
This vid explains all my thoughts completely another banger once again 🫡
@Deimian6763 күн бұрын
Che ? That wasn’t the same Gustafson that faced Jones the second time around . Gustafson had no movement . The one thing he did well in the first fight were the feints and constantly in and out movements. Gustafson was just walking down Jon Jones slowly( very little movement). Not the same Gustafson
@fangiscool15 күн бұрын
Jon Jones boxing has always been horrible. He just does crazy stuff because his arms are so long. His defense is almost always and had always been just sticking his arm out or just sticking both out (fingers extended too). People think Aspinal can just blitz through Jon's lazy defense, like Anthony Joshua did to Nganou. You can't do that to Jon Jones because your eyes will be done
@kraterkrate20146 күн бұрын
You should just film with candlelight from now on
@urielcalderon96395 күн бұрын
Jones will attack that surgically repaired knee which also is the side he leaves out, destroying that knee will take away his power and speed and it’s the easiest attack Jones can do at distance
@DominickSalvato5 күн бұрын
We don’t want nothing but the Aspinal fight
@Mahhhdeee4 күн бұрын
Dudes 6’4 he’s a natural hw lmao
@_kelso99596 күн бұрын
Aspinall in one
@ChristianHart-ne7fk5 күн бұрын
I think for most of John’s opponents if he has his harms stretched out and on them they can’t reach him.
@bluechili70364 күн бұрын
After Jon twists the vertebrae of Tim Aspilands neck he should just retire, it's like Khabib said they respect you for that moment when you're in the cage, but they're always going to bring a new guy up and say hes the one to beat you, until eventually it'll happen
@kennethalbright34272 күн бұрын
Every fight once Tom gets hit that's when he goes in for The knockout or finished
@walterreed58496 күн бұрын
jones priced himself out of the ngannou fight also once he beat stipe jones tweeted “show me the money” and was asking for $30 mil and people blamed ngannou when he waited 3 years and eventually got the best deal he could ever get
@devinmurdock57179 сағат бұрын
I wonder if theirs a possibility that the reason why Jon Jones is delaying agreeing to this fight is so he can cycle peds and allow enough time after getting off of them to pass the drug test when the fight against Aspinall is official whilst still reaping the performance benefits.
@Thatdudeoveryonder5 күн бұрын
I think against these big, skilled heavyweights (really just Aspinall and Ngannou), Jones has to be perfect for 25 minutes. Thing is… it’s quite possible he can do it
@giacalonebuilding44435 күн бұрын
I think you are selling Jon short. I think it’s fair to say Jon will not get submitted and he will not get taken down. I also don’t see a world where Tom wins a decision vs Jon. I just think with all that muscle there’s no way he will keep up with Jon’s cardio in championship rounds and I don’t really see him winning all three of the first 3 rounds. After rewatching the Arlovski fight I think Jon finds a way to stay out of harms way for rounds 1/2 and chips away at the body and gas tank of Tom and maybe edges out the 3rd with a late round takedown and some elbows before taking over in championship rounds. Also I think you’re selling Jon’s defense a bit short. He has probably the best defense we’ve ever seen and even if his speed is a bit slower than his prime his instincts are still the best in the game. Stipe fight included you almost never see him get cracked, he’s always moving with the shots and 7” reach over Tom will definitely help. Maybe Tom blitzes in and cracks Jon early but if he doesn’t get him out of there first 8 minutes or so I think Jon wins a legendary fight that goes down in history. That said Jon weighing in at 235 means he could pretty easily cut back down to LHW and challenge Alex for his strap maybe in early summer before fighting Tom at MSG in November for his final fight. Also I don’t think Tom will be able to blitz in on Jon like everyone seems to think, Jon is world class in all 3 styles of wrestling and his Greco trips and throws are literally made for someone who blitzes in ntm adding gable Stevenson (probably the p4p best freestyle and folkstyle wrestler on the planet currently) to his team just an iron sharpens iron type thing.
@86lanzo5 күн бұрын
Not cutting weight..doesn't make your chin worse... It honestly wouldn't surprise me if Jon Jones makes this fight look easy.. And Jon Jones does have a heavyweight frame...Jon Jones is 1 inch shorter than Tom..with 6 inches reach advantage.. That's one thing ppl get get about jon..dude has a heavyweight frame but his comically small legs allowed him to make lightheavyweight and beat up smaller fighters Jon jones will likely do what he does v dangerous strikers..neutralize their attacks with a grappler heavy gameplan.. And we haven't really seen Tom in deep waters..how does he look in the 3rd,4th or 5th...
@MMAD-Rob6 күн бұрын
Aspinall knocks out Jon Jones in round 1 or 2
@DominickSalvato5 күн бұрын
We don’t want nothing but the Aspinal fight the world’s gonna erupt when we get the aspen fight
@DominickSalvato5 күн бұрын
Vs jones bigger then any Conner fight Tom vs Jon
@atithesnail5 күн бұрын
Your microphone records all the rumblings on the table, I think you should do something about that.
@fightbreakdown8855 күн бұрын
Age is biggest factor here. Jon is going to be 38 by the time of a potential fight. Although Jon is now hw, he is really a natural LHW. Yes Jon has the skill and experience, but is clearly past his prime as was Stipe. I see Jon defeating Aspinall in the way he defeated Gane, not in the same fashion of course but by finding a glaring weakness in Aspinall`s game. Perhaps ground game of Aspinall and also the Stamina department. This is where I see Jon winning. Jon also has advantage of superior competition. Tom has been fighting low level opponents, like Sean O Malley. Looking good against inferior opponents. Tom only way of winning is KO.
@ShaunSilk-ew7cy5 күн бұрын
Aspinall was doing BJJ at 8 yrs old.
@eminemfann10004 күн бұрын
I like aspinall but tbh Jones has a point the whole Francis thing didn't happen because of money and Dana being difficult with both fighters trying to negotiate for more is more the point. I don't even like Jones but giving aspinall too much confidence could end badly. Guy is an absolute beast but i still think jones can scrape it if it goes past 3 rounds. Apart from Francis or a cross into boxing to box Tyson,usyk or dubois Tom is probably his perfect last fight in the UFC so i don't think he's wrong asking 20-40$ mil for his last 2 fights then boosting across to PFL if he wants to try big Francis and retiring. If he beats tom on drugs or not he'll be definitively the absolute goat of the UFC wether you like him or not. Tom is a great fighter but hasn't got that sociopathic do anything to win look about him like Jones does.
@xogiIbert5 күн бұрын
you’re hilarious dawg lmfaooooo
@bencoins6 күн бұрын
its like holloway and topuria in a way obivously without the grappling jon needs to be on point for 25 minutes its way harder to get a win like that i think if aspinall hits a one two jon is in big trouble
@jimmygundes62665 күн бұрын
Stipe was slow after round 1, which is to be expected considering he took almost 50 elbows. JJ getting away because of Stipe's reach doesn't matter, he calculates the reach just well enough... And JJ said that Stipe's punches were the hardest he was hit with, so Stipe had power. Stipe was also heavier than JJ, JJ took him down easily. Stipe was out since 2020, JJ had just the fight vs Gane since 2020, fought in a weight that Stipe is way more used to, had an injury which took 6 months from training... So all issues you think Stipe had, JJ had too. Yet he dominated... Stipe still lasted longer than Gane even after the round 1 punishment. Totally disagree with your analysis in regards to JJ and Stipe. Like some ppl say, Stipe lost to JJ, not father time. It's the truth... JJ is that good and that tough. GSP talked about how tough he is, that ppl underestimate just how tough he is to take out. In fact, there isn't a single time in his career that he was wobbling, almost getting KO'd, not a single one...
@charleskageleiry71165 күн бұрын
stipe hasnt' beaten a young HW contender since 2018 when he fought francis. His time at the top was extended by histrilogyy with DC then he retired after he got KOd by francis. Stipe was done and this fight was clearly made just to make jon look better
@rickym186 күн бұрын
0:07 u mean your friend was 😭
@MMAChe.6 күн бұрын
@rickym18 Jackson's just my money handler, anything he does I receive the profit :)
@rickym186 күн бұрын
@@MMAChe. ok lmao
@ajmainfahim85695 күн бұрын
No wonder he ducked Francis, if old Stipe could land imagine what Francis would do to him. No wonder he's also ducking Tom, Aspinall would land freely on him.
@lastroko6 күн бұрын
You should try recording on an iPhone, I believe the framerate and playback will be smoother for facecam
@2764hu2 күн бұрын
Jones gets a lot of strike if any one of those land from Tom or Ngannou he will be lying on the ground, its an issue when he is old now