The Haunting Conflict of Elizabeth & Mary (2023) FULL DOCUMENTARY | HD

Queen Elizabeth I of England and Mary Queen of Scots were two of recorded history's most significant, most legendary rivals-although they never met.
Elizabeth was the childless “virgin” queen in one castle: bawdy, brilliant, tactical and cynical. On the other hand, Mary is feminine, charming, romantic and reckless.
Their decades-long battle over the English crown would end with Mary’s beheading at Fotheringhay Castle-with Elizabeth’s blessing-in 1587.
But the two cousins’ tortured relationship was determined long before, during childhoods, so dissimilar and defining that they would inform both Queens’ characters-and seal Mary’s tragic fate.
The rivalry between the two queens was marked by imprisonment, escape and execution.
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[@livesouthernable]

The battle between Elizabeth and Mary is the classic war between heart and head. It’s tempting to reduce this to “the choices women make,” but it goes beyond gender. They lived in times when no monarch could afford to be unwise. The only way to survive was to be smarter than everyone around you. Elizabeth was tested early in life and proved her fitness for the job with her brilliance and discretion. In contrast, Mary let her impulses rule her, and she paid the price.

[@lottietucker3082]

I could have sworn first cousins were the children of two siblings. Therefore Elizabeth and Mary were not first cousins. Mary was the Granddaughter of Henry's sister Margaret, thus making Margaret Elizabeth's Aunt, and her child (Mary's Father) would be Elizabeth's first cousin, making Elizabeth and Mary Second Cousins.

[@ebenezermarley]

Lesley Smith as Elizabeth. Haven't seen her since her "Most Haunted " days. Always delighted to see new history programmes.

[@Chipoo88]

Phillip did not have the same power as that of his wife Mary I. She had provisions made for this so his powers were limited.

[@Mark-Smeaton]

I just had the same thought. Bizarre how people can appear on a tv documentary, passing themselves off as "experts" when they're so I'll informed.

[@Chipoo88]

@@Mark-Smeaton there’s so much bias. That isn’t history. We cannot pick and choose a.narrative to fit how we wish things to have gone. We look at facts available and formulate an informed argument. It happens with some more seasoned historians too which is such a pity as people listen and share misinformation. They have a duty of care about how information is disseminated

[@terintiaflavius3349]

​@@Mark-SmeatonThere have been a lot of history documentaries lately with many inaccuracies. The field of history seems to be on a downward spiral

[@Mark-Smeaton]

@@terintiaflavius3349 I couldn't agree more. One of the baffling things about this trend is, the facts available- in this case, regarding Elizabeth and Mary - present a far more nuanced, human and interesting portrait of both women . For example, Elizabeth"s reluctance to execute Mary is usually seen as nothing more than her fear of creating a precedent that could come back to bite her - the killing of another annointed sovereign. Although I'm sure there is a lot of truth in this ,there is also a lot of evidence of Elizabeth's kindness and sympathy for Mary over many years too. After Rizzo's murder, she was genuinely outraged on Mary's behalf. After Darnley's murder, she threatened war against the Scots for their treatment of Mary and wrote her an unusually frank letter, in effect telling her, "I couldn't care less if you had a hand in bumping your husband off & I think you're well rid of him, but I beg you to at least pretend to be upset about it!". (I'm paraphrasing, of course but if you read the letter, there's no doubt that this is the gist of it .) All this and more make Mary's flight to England - alone, on horseback- less foolhardy and more understandable, given her desperate circumstances. Sorry for going off on an historical tangent but what I'm getting at is, the truth is so much more interesting. Why these "historians" get so much so wrong is a mystery to me.

[@theresafox2816]

History is truly fascinating ! Was very interesting true stories about the rulers from the past years. Thank you for the film. 0:03

[@moomyung9231]

The narrative is a bit disordered, jumping around in time and repeating the same parts several times. I also would've preferred more detail, this is more a basic intro to the subject and all of this has already been said in other docs. Maybe it's just because I've been researching this for 5 years, but I was hoping for more from this.

[@foofookachoo1136]

Yes, story jumped all around!! Therefore, wasn’t a very good video!!

[@raumaanking]

What if Lady Jane Grey or Mary queen of Scot’s were never executed and one of them became the new queen of England in 1603 how would England have been like in your opinion

[@koenhughes9267]

Lady Jane Grey was just a petite 16 year old with no previous ruling experience, she would've been crushed at court and potentially assassinated if she didn't do as she was told. Mary was completely different, she basically would've been made a saint by the Catholic Church and there would've been religious civil war in England and the country would just be a vassal of Spain so say what you want about the Tudors, they knew how to hold their own.

[@margo3367]

Elizabeth: her father cutting her mother’s head off and declaring Elizabeth a bastard; being sexually abused as a child by Thomas Seymour; stating she would never marry to Parliament in her 20’s; almost 6’ tall; wearing pieces of men’s clothing. Wow, I wonder what the reason could be for her having no intention to marry? 🙄

[@kathleenlannen9422]

MARY, Qween of Scots was 6ft tall, not Elizabeth.

[@Funnylookingpotato]

what's your answer? i'd love to know.

[@Seven-ld9zv]

@@Funnylookingpotato Exactly, I'd love to hear what your answer is because it sounds as if you're saying that having had negative previous experiences with men gives her the excuse to hate (or be suspicious of) ALL men. Don't forget that even though she did not marry, she did have quite the number of affairs with men. It's not like she did not long to be among men. It's just that her near perfect PR campaign led us to believe that she was actually a virgin while obviously she wasn't.

[@jennifersantos7307]

She wasn’t 6 feet tall Mary queen of Scott’s was 6 feet tall & when was she described as wearing men’s clothing ? As far as we know she wore dresses even in her portraits she is depicted in dresses she wore make up heavy make up at that she is known to have male courtiers who were her favorites she enjoyed flirting with them & showering her favorites with expensive gifts titles lands she didn’t want to be married because she has seen how horribly wrong marriage can go with her own mother & father how deadly child birth is & how the people can turn on you for the wrong husband or she could’ve ended up with a husband like Mary queen of Scott’s a drunk brute or if she had married a foreign prince & had heirs what would happen to England if she died while child was still young foreign power could not be in England & England would be dragged into foreign wars & conflict if she gave birth to male heirs she could of potentially been putting her own life at great risk people rather having a male heir over a queen she could be forced to abdicate for her male heir and locked away so many reasons for her not to marry & reproduce & I doubt any of that had to do with height clothing or Seymour & more to do with staying alive and remaining englands queen

[@margo3367]

@@jennifersantos7307 You’re right. Her height had nothing whatsoever to do with it, but deciding at 20 years old that you’ll never marry is significant.

[@terrioestreich4007]

Excellent!

[@mesamies123]

Who are these brilliant experts? 😯🤯

[@smithamy1982]

Lol

[@amityboy14mo]

OMGGG YESSSS!!!!

[@dgatsf]

It was good for England that Queen Elizabeth I had a successful reign. Mary Queen of Scots was not strong enough to rule Scotland, so could not rule England successfully.

[@saritgoren8283]

Queen Elizabeth the 1st had nephews and a niece through Lady Katherine Grey.

[@chrisandmegsmom]

They would have been cousins. I've never heard that Elizabeth I had a sister but Mary I.

[@smithamy1982]

I'll never understand why Mary felt safer trusting Elizabeth when she went into exile, instead of running to France, where she had grown up and was once the queen consort. Why France never attempted to free Mary and place her on the English throne in Elizabeth's stead, baffles me as well. Considering France and England were constant rivals, it would have made sense for them to put Mary on the throne or at least tried. Alas, Mary placed her trust in the worst person she could have chosen and she spent 20yrs in prison until her head was removed. Separate note- it's insulting when the presenters don't bother to learn the proper pronunciation of names and places, makes me question the validity of the rest of the information. They literally have one job, to read the script properly and yet they fail.

[@cobycuzzocrea9142]

Queen Elizabeth ll & Prince Phillip were Blood Cousins

[@TheSimpleRomantic]

What would have been better for Mary to do instead of going to England ?

[@SKILLIUSCAESAR]

France. No brainer.

[@alyshaparker9251]

France bc her relationship with her ex mother in law was intact enough that she would have had a place to live and more than likely an allowance

[@spicylagato2919]

Bro at the beginning was a little too excited to watch the execution .

[@cityofjesse5447]

Who ever did the audio mixing/editing on this… needs more practice. lol

[@sandybothwell3812]

Alot of my family 👪 ancestry has been traced back to all of these times, some of this makes me sad

[@paulohara8750]

pritty ramshackled and botched togeather,images included without explanation,repetive.

[@Lonesome__Dove]

Well aren't you Mr critical

[@Thedarkestduchess]

Pretty * Together *

[@winniedhaouadi1973]

She looks like Elizabeth 2

[@CherokeeBird]

I'm Mary's 14th great granddaughter, and Elizabeth's 13th great niece. And my 14th great grandmother is named Catherine Carey, which may be the illegitimate child of Henry the 8th. It's all very confusing. But interesting. Apparently about 60% of Americans, no matter the race, are decended from the royal and noble families 😊

[@direfranchement]

Depicting Elizabeth I as balding in her older years is disrespectful and frankly misogynistic. Also, speculating that her makeup was the cause of her death is ridiculous and there is no evidence to support that. Elizabeth was almost 70 years old when she died, exceeding the life expecting for a woman of her era and class by over a decade. This piece is just rubbish.

[@smoothmovements1221]

She was balding from the Mercury in the makeup

[@direfranchement]

@@smoothmovements1221 Not true.

[@sarahudson108]

Watch Royal Autopsy episode 2 , It explains how and why she died . It was from pneumonia and secondary infections in her mouth and her hand where her coronation ring had caused a wound .

[@bbybella9937]

@@smoothmovements1221 No she wasn’t. There is literally no truth to that.

[@bbybella9937]

They always do this. Notice how Mary isn’t depicted that when she actually had to wear wigs, had smallpox and became overweight.

[@maikendooleweerdtjensen7955]

I love Mary! I wish she was Englands Queen 😍 katolsk forever

[@Legittoquit1]

Lame