The HEAVY is Back! Vocal Analysis of Architects "Seeing Red"

[@KardavoxAcademy]

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[@aethyrien]

You should go back and read the lyrics. This song is legit a response to all their "fans" giving them shit for switching up their sound. Never seen a band do something like this to this level (as in the response) and pull it off flawlessly.

[@KardavoxAcademy]

Haha so I learned that after doing this video and I was like dang....I hope he's not mad that we're all using the screenshot of the blegh as the screenshot O.o

[@aethyrien]

@@KardavoxAcademy 🤣😂

[@_notofthisearth]

@@KardavoxAcademyaccording to a BBC1 interview Sam did the other day, this song is the direction the next album will be moving toward. So, yes they were taking the piss outta the “fans” but they also are enjoying what they’re doing. Sam said “the last album kind of humbled us” “we know why people like us” “we know what we’re good at”

[@NicBrandon]

BMTH’s “heavy metal” from 2019 does the same thing. Always loved the ironic breakdown at the end of it.

[@notimportant1816]

I'm not certain this should be seen as a positive, writing diss tracks against fans who are clearly passionate about the band, the fans who are somewhat responsible for the magnitude of band they are now. The lyrics went from Broken Cross and Naysayer to this.

[@RyanCogar]

Sam uses a lot of lows live, he's got really underrated lows a lot of folks would say. Hope he gives us a bit more of them on future tracks.

[@KardavoxAcademy]

Thats really interesting, I would love to hear more of them because they sound great mixed in with his other amazing vocals

[@RyanCogar]

@@KardavoxAcademy I agree, I prefer his lows & mids over that "nasally" pitched scream you described & definitely enjoy his chest voice a lot more for the melodic stuff too. 👌🤟

[@natit1989]

@@KardavoxAcademy you should listen to some live stuff the uploaded :D

[@TheRealBrotherGrimmy]

I could have sworn that Josh did the lows in live shows..?

[@RyanCogar]

@@TheRealBrotherGrimmy Sam has always done lots of lows live, even before Josh was a member.

[@DizzyMan24]

If you watch their live Abby Road version of Impermanence, you'll hear LOTS of Sams lows!

[@brunomageste7146]

A vídeo talking with sam like you did with phill bozeman would be sick

[@KardavoxAcademy]

Dude would LOVE to do that! Especially since, when it comes to those fry belts, he is the fuckin king. Like I'd honestly love to pick his brain for my own learning

[@pieceoftrashkeith]

Finally, a Sam Carter vocal analyzation!

[@KardavoxAcademy]

It's been a long time coming, for sure.

[@Meowmeow0506]

Not the biggest fan of Architects, but you talking about the lows, what comes to mind from the first time I heard this song was Spritbox's Yellowjacket where Sam Carter featured and did a low in. The pick scrapes immediately made me think of that song.

[@KardavoxAcademy]

I can 100% see that correlation!

[@hitman9198]

Yeah not everyone is a fan of great music

[@weaverwill2350]

Saw them live last month and boy is he a phenomenal live vocalist!

[@daviduliasz2437]

I want to see the Kardavox vocal analysis on Graystone so bad.

[@KardashevBand]

Love how quick this came out! Great job as always buddy!

[@KardavoxAcademy]

Thanks boo!

[@juansnowgaming]

This quickly shot up to one of my favorite architects songs. I really enjoy when you cover songs with clean and harsh vocals together.

[@KardavoxAcademy]

Thanks, I'll try and do that more!

[@cory9919]

Dunno about their new stuff but i absolutely adore Architects in their album "all our gods have abandoned us" and "lost forever // lost together" with Broken Cross being how i found the band. I dearly love those albums and the style these guys had then.

[@SolSilverius]

This is a lot better than other reaction videos that pause just to say "Wow, that's great" and then continue, with this one I'm learning and enjoying a reaction video hehe. Win/Win.

[@terribletimmy2]

This song is sick!!! The opening verse reminds me of an Electric Callboy verse from one of their songs. Can't remember which, but it's either Pump It or MC Thunder II. This song rips hard af though and I'm kinda getting a BMTH arc from them? Start hard, go a little softer, meet in the middle and blend them perfectly.

[@KardavoxAcademy]

Didn't think about the comparison to BMTH but I can absolutely see what you're saying

[@roguegorilla8981]

I seen them live at Rock on the range in 2019 and he does a lot of lows and not highs live. The energy was nuts from them and I ended loving them out of everyone that day.

[@ramseykhelifi9041]

I also want to say this bro. Already warm up with the basics like that. All the time I warm up with the basics. Then I start singing louder and louder. My music teacher years ago taught me the same thing as what you're teaching me. So I've been doing the foundations for years. And I always love your channel. Because these foundations help me warm up. A lot I have a deeper voice. So the voice is a lot deeper, so it sounds. You know, in line with metal but I always do the foundations before. I actually go louder and louder before. And then the tension isn't there? And I always keep my vocals with something to drink afterwards or do you😊 Our dear in it you know like after it😊😊

[@ddous1]

Absolutely love your channel. Not only do you introduce me to bands I've never heard of (or re-introduce to ones I've forgotten about) but you give your knowledge and insight on how they do what they do. Architects is one such band. I forgot about them and hearing this different sound from them is sick. Also, I really do dig the newer stuff but you should check out a band that's been around 25+ years that's still going strong and still sounds incredible. They're called Zao. Anything you find by them is amazing but 5 Year Winter is among their top songs.

[@KardavoxAcademy]

Thanks for the kind words! I'll definitely try and check out some Zao!

[@utilitarian]

I love it when you start doing the bops 😂 so unmetal, it’s the best!

[@BforBallisticS2]

Damn I got so into you running through vocals. I completely forgot bout the music video.

[@tommy6663]

I love this big F U to the haters constantly being negative on Architects eventho they put their soul and everything into their songs. This song was so damn fun! Older Architecs were heavier and since Sam they have went more for relatable songs and more of softer screaming and singing, thats the reason they are hated in the Metalcore community, thats why Sam brought out his lower sick sounding screams and shouts.

[@tere218]

Immediate follow after you lit the incense omg. Immaculate reaction vid.

[@ozgurdenizcelik]

love your videos man!!

[@KardavoxAcademy]

Thanks!

[@MentionedBefore]

Banger but I'll also have to add that I love Sam's look in this video Loved their recent albums, this is perfection

[@jensrudolph6846]

Thnx for the reaction and lesson u gave here. I liked the song a lot and laughed at the clapping audience. Always having a great time watching your reactions. Stay healthy! PS: Do you know the band Ankor and their vocalist Jessie Williams? I am curios if you like her style...

[@austins161]

LoveLoveLove this song, both because its quality music but also its their response to all the selling out allegations type stuff

[@DismemberedMC]

Can you break down Matti Way vox? Abominable Putridity or Pathology will suffice. Thanks

[@ceceleyva]

This entire time I really thought you disliked Architects 😂 this song is great and I always wondered if you were going to make a video of Sam’s technique. Thanks Mark!

[@KardavoxAcademy]

Haha I definitely dislike some of their tunes, but I agree with you this song is dope! And all things aside, Sam's a beast even on the songs that aren't too much to my taste.

[@mikesthr5467]

So this song is to in some way make fun of the "haters", that has complained about them not being heavy enough. They complained he didn't scream deep, didn't do the BLEGH and didn't do heavy breakdowns or chords anymore - Hence why all of that is in one song. I believe the chants are comments and complaints from "fans", or at least interpretations of those comments. - Love the videos btw

[@KardavoxAcademy]

Good points, and thanks!

[@cullenkenneth5980]

Dude, we need more fry tutorials from you! Seriously! :D

[@KardavoxAcademy]

Haha, I teach a lot of fry with my students, but don't cover it so much on the channel - perhaps that'll change!

[@ramseykhelifi9041]

The thing about it is Sam has always been underated in the metal scene. He has very good lows very good highs. The thing about it is you know. He's not the Alex, the terrible. So people always kind of just throw Sam's vocals under the bus. Which is it correct? Cause he's not bad, he's not terrible. He is perfect. You know Sam is good. Sam has very good vocals. There isn't for who he is with me with a louder. Voice and a deeper voice. Metal comes kind of a little naturally but the techniques you know, or can I warm up for my deeper, further and further voices for metal? 1 day I would love to meet you. And you can give me some tips more tips than you already do on your videos because You helped me learn a lot of metal a lot

[@missinbrain]

You should check out anything live at Abbey Road. He throws in lows that aren’t in the originals. Plus it’s live. Plus it’s one take. I think you’ll like it.

[@KardavoxAcademy]

Sounds juicy, I'll try and check that out!

[@Jens_Roadster]

Awesome song!

[@KardavoxAcademy]

Absolutely!

[@GimmeDopamine]

Man... Your tips helped me access a safe false cord method after years of wrong technique (which resulted in losing some of my range). Thanks. You know your stuff!

[@KardavoxAcademy]

Hell yeah. glad to hear it dude!

[@izanaakanejp]

Hello you seem like a fun person and love breaking down different vocal techniques if i could suggest you something interesting it would be the song vanitas by dimlim a Japanese metal band that is disbanded unfortunately but has left people speechless before also have a follow

[@MatDeCesare]

Lol no disrespect intended but I genuinely winced when you offered to teach Sam how to improve his false cords after saying “I just feel like I’ve never heard him do that (false cord) much!” That being said, you did say you aren’t familiar with their entire discography - but Sam used to have THE *STRONGEST* false cords in the entire game. Do yourself a favor and pull up their track “Left With A Last Minute” and listen to his vocal take at 1:32. You’re welcome.

[@davidcwk01]

Hello, unrelated suggestion but you should check out Psycho-frame! They’re a old school deathcore supergroup featuring members from moodring and the vocalist for Vatican. their vocalist also had bronchitis when recording vocals for their latest EP “Automatic Death Protocol”

[@KardavoxAcademy]

I'll check them out!

[@_Loathe]

I know this doesn't full go in with the video and I have never been sure where to ask this, but does having your tonsil and adenoids removed affect the ability to learn harsh vocals?

[@somekid4712]

You should react to Hereafter, very interesting way of using his vocals there

[@rednexium4100]

Please do immortal disfigurement, either king or force fed. Cj has crazy range plus makes very unique sounds.

[@Moumszk]

Please please, check the band "Luck won't save you" They are NUTS! "So meaningless" Would be a good pick. Also "Doom chimes are ringing" or any song, they are all good! -i will still ask it from time to time, just in case you forget about it :)

[@parsa8941]

This song to me is a major jab at their "fans", done tastefully xD God, dude... Remember when opeth stopped doing death metal? People were so mad, it was hilarious

[@KardavoxAcademy]

Pepperidge Farm remembers...

[@50mattman]

Great song for you with how Sam uses most of his range

[@jhall1980]

Love it

[@Exhorderx]

May I suggest DISEMBODIED TYRANT/SYNESTIA - THE POETIC EDDA (FT. BEN DUERR), absolute banger

[@wwyd4akb]

didn't expect Nag Champa to make an appearance.

[@terrysilverthorn4582]

heard they're slightly trolling their fans for going soft on previous albums. they even quote it in the video. We only really love you when youre seeing RED. and the are you happy now :) great tune

[@Adam-rf6cx]

Hope to get a reaction from the band Killstreak! Their latest album is video game themed. Killer vocals too, I am sure you and the fanbase would enjoy your analysis!

[@Pure_KodiakWILD_Power]

Was that some Erykah Badu incense you lit up?? 😂😂

[@KardavoxAcademy]

I ain't fancy enough for that

[@Pure_KodiakWILD_Power]

@@KardavoxAcademy You gotta be more than fancy for that scent 🤣 😬

[@Rockhound999]

Orbit Culture - While we serve, duuude you have to check it out

[@KardavoxAcademy]

I'll try!

[@aldendunne]

Mark, I'm a little bit confused. Were you trying to teach a fry scream? Because the sound you made sounded a lot like a compressed voice with maybe some fc behind it. It didn't sound like it had the *closure* of a fry. The screams that I do that I would consider fry have a lot of *closure*, and not as much projection and volume as the sounds you made. Could you explain?

[@KardavoxAcademy]

Haha short answer, no. I was showing one way you can put some fry on a pitched belt. Not something I myself really ever use, but its one way to get there Long answer, fry is a slippery term that seems to change a lot depending on who you're talking to. In the context of deathcore / death metal, I wouldn't call what I talk about here a straight fry scream.

[@aldendunne]

@@KardavoxAcademygotcha gotcha, just trying to make sure I fully understood. Thanks!

[@ralphieralph9176]

Feels like he's going for heavier vocals?.. Like "we need to keep up" - Kinda-thing xP

[@TheRealBrotherGrimmy]

Ok but with this song... I can't help but feel like it's a massive meta take on the fans. The song reads, to me, as a "fuck you all" to the fans, because of the shit that was said about their last 2 albums. The song STARTS with a BLEGH... its HEAVY... but it's not like old architects heavy. Not to mention the prechorus is literally "rent free living in your head. RIP they commented" How many of the fans were being all "Oh rip architects is dead and went pop, now they're bad" (no blegh, must have sounded like the antichrist?) "You dummies only live on the internet" I mean... COME ON. Sorry. I'm done ranting Maybe I'm just reading in to it trying to find my own meaning by looking for super far reaches... but that's what it sounds like to me. Regardless... I fucking love the song. And yes. I am happy.

[@KardavoxAcademy]

I don't think they're trying to hide that's what the song's about!

[@WeAreTheUniverse78]

I like the "new" Architects better than the older albums. I had to block several angry Architects "fans" because i have those feelings

[@FunnyMan3232]

Sams lows dont appear on records often but live.....he throws it in at moments that give you the stankiest stank face

[@KardavoxAcademy]

Yeah, that makes sense!

[@mackalrath]

damn you are CRANKING out the videos lately haha. Stay sane pls!! :)

[@KardavoxAcademy]

Hah yo thankyou! Don't worry I'm taking a bit of a break on Thursday, but will be back to it afterwards!

[@xBlade173]

As someone who has never liked architects, and could never really get into them, from what I've heard old and newer, this is the best he has sounded. Definitely like his screams and cleans more on this track by a lot.

[@johnnailon588]

It's basically a metal-core tick list song. And a big "fuck you" to all of the shit talkers. I love them more for this.

[@KardavoxAcademy]

Haha, that's fair!

[@Vinsanity09]

I’m one of those haters. That songs that tells me to fuck off has me hyped for them again 😅

[@shivambhardwaj9439]

i js found your channel and i only understand stuff from you please make me your apprentice

[@KardavoxAcademy]

Thanks for the kind words!

[@theopinson3851]

So when we give them shit they respond by putting out absolute bangers. Sounds like we need to give them more shit! ;)

[@kaneisatube]

A nice return to somewhat classic sounding Architects!

[@somedogsarecops2354]

This song doesn't sound anything like old Architects. Its generic metalcore with Sam crying about the reception of their last album. Pathetic for a veteran band of this size.

[@_notofthisearth]

@@somedogsarecops2354this song was written directly for people like you. The self unawareness is staggering. 😂

[@Vinsanity09]

@@_notofthisearth what hilarious is that, yes they wrote it for people like me who loathe there recent albums, however….they ironically made me hyped for their new record. No matter the reason, if this is what gets them back to being heavy again then way to go team hater!

[@donuttingtornado7628]

To say heavy is back is to completely miss the point of the song.

[@alondite215]

The heavy is back? Where is it? I mean, this sure sounds like it's _trying_ to be heavy, but it never actually gets there. Also I cannot handle how hilariously childish these lyrics are. Band is mad fans don't like that they sold out and are crying about it.

[@somedogsarecops2354]

Sad how far this band has sunk.

[@varrusironfist4335]

And yet you keep coming back... how sad.

[@braydenpartridge4344]

​@@varrusironfist4335Lmao so true

[@smokejc]

Bit of a meh track, chorus sounds a lot like Bring Me The Horizon. Still better than a lot of their previous album, though.