The Hero Rework That Ruined Dota 2

[@69camiloo]

Feels good to know that even with all rework and meta changes throughout the years, Omniknight is by far the most successful hero by win %

[@sebastianbonilla1323]

Some things are never meant to change

[@notyourdad361]

Because its really hard to just E someone and auto E again to kill

[@69camiloo]

@@notyourdad361 sounds like an skill issue to me

[@L1ghtman]

@@69camiloo Bahahhaha

[@doomer704]

Yeah in 2013 he constantly stay on the top win rate too. Even though his skill set then are dogshit compared to now.

[@sh1ro9]

Dark Seer is a Medusa counter not because he's a lane bully but because of the wall. It's like we can't kill Medusa so we gonna get our own Medusa to kill her. It's quite good since now illus also have mana shield.

[@TheRoadrunn]

Grimstroke aghanim upgrade also viable but he need to farm his aghs first which is wont happened if he playing pos 4 or 5

[@sh1ro9]

@@TheRoadrunn Yes reason why Grimstroke isn't practical is because you have to farm an item as a support while Dark Seer has it in his kit and it's also such a great teamfight spell.

[@Relixification]

@@TheRoadrunn by the time Grimstroke has his Aghs, Medusa already has her linken's sphere. Game over.

[@ardinhajihil5011]

ive seen wr with diffu always hunting medusa too

[@default2591]

Grimstroke basically have a debuff immune Medu

[@jayzenstyle]

Had a feeling that uncounterable shield passive got an issue... Never thought this even fucks up the pro scene.

[@BlahBohogun]

The proverbial straw that broke the camels back.

[@JetFiiire]

Video is old news, Dusa is not that much of a problem anymore (be it in pro, or in high elo pubs). She was not broken only because of her new "kit" but because her stats were a bit too high. But it's always gonna be the case with such a major patch, some heroes are gonna be overtuned, some are gonna be weak. But at least it's getting fixed pretty quickly. Also he says her passive is the only one that cant be broken, but it's 100% false, there are at least 15+ hero passives (and i'm not even counting the 30+ neutral and summons passives, even tho they can be used or stolen by a few heroes), that cant be stopped by break or anything else. I made a quick list off the top of my head in another comment.

[@jamesdebenham7787]

@@JetFiiire nope, Medusa still the highest WR in the past week rn, the next pos2/pos1 style hero at placed 5th and 6th are meepo and Arc warden which is pub stomp smurf data. Heros still broken asf.

[@JetFiiire]

@@jamesdebenham7787 not in pro and high mmr, just like I explicitely said in my previous comment.

[@mariolazo6150]

But pl Is still her counter

[@JetFiiire]

About 4:00 , there are A LOOOOOT of passives you can't break, few exemples here: - panda's drunken brawler - dark seer's normal punch - old and new bad juju - ogre magi's dumb luck (and old multicast) - pudge's flesh heap - sk's passive epicenter procs with shard - SF's necromastery damages - tiny's grow - treant's nature's guise - undying's death tombstone and reincarnation - wk's reincarnation - visage's soul assumption - zeus's lightning hands etc etc So yeah while new dusa is super broken, her passive not being broken by break is not the reason and is not an exception.

[@khankakhanka8266]

those are ultimates and shard upgrades tho. the reason ppl build break against pa and bristle as such is bcs of their E and for bristle to not gain charge from ulti, same goes for sf dmg. while broken sf cant gain soul rather just uses the dmg already he had.

[@Nice_Boat]

pudge's flesh heap is an active ability with a stacked passive

[@JetFiiire]

@@Nice_Boat it has been a passive for many years (forever) until it got changed one year ago

[@JetFiiire]

@@khankakhanka8266 nature guise is an innate passive just like medusa ;)

[@guiguito5505]

Half of those can be broken, and the other half wouldn't make sense.

[@Gabriel-mh7zn]

The all medusa counter team is actually hilarious if that was a real game😭

[@madaabdo1700]

4:35 The point of not receiving extra damage for all the magic resistance reduction and armor reduction is crazy

[@Tintelinus]

Worth noting tho is that it works in both directions. Armour and magic resistance does nothing either. Honestly the -Armour argument seems pretty weak unless you are against a super heavy -Armour team. Dusa has a lot of agility, and it would only be a damage buff if you got her below 0 armour. With magic resistance, sure but still

[@fieryfirefly5769]

I think the passive being unbreakable is fine because tiny is in a similar position with grow but I think it is stupid that armour reduction / magic reduction play no part in the damage dealt. Nerfing the damage per mana numbers reasonably hard along with allowing armour and magic resistance to be a factor will help her stay unique and more situational because her list of counters would be bigger than just am/ds and be different to most other heroes list of counters.

[@5p3ctrL]

Can't really judge medusa off tiny, even though tiny gets allot more health he losses attack speed and he kinda needs that, but dusa doesn't really lose anything

[@parham1023]

Wk passive is also unbreakable( U). Funny enough the solution to deal with him is also mana burn until he gets shard

[@AndresDavidCalvache]

Time to bring back kotl manaleak

[@Maleficarum999]

Negative armor is still not great way to deal with agi heroes and negative mr is hardly ever achieved, even eblade alone doesn't bring it below 0, it just goes closer to 0. armor and mr not affecting barrier is mostly a downside to medusa rather than upside.

[@bearmanjon_bmj]

You forgot to mention the balance changes she received in 7.33c. Her shield was ultimately weakened, but the shield works on Illusions now. Her win rate went down about 3% but still floats over 55, which is problematic still.

[@ChinkyChickenxx]

Why do coinflip bans still exist in draft

[@ElatedSphee]

1:04 That "Let's start with tinker" Got me spitting my drink with how fast you suggested it.

[@geoDB.]

Careful what you wish fotmr because it might just come true

[@yuzycute]

Medusa + Kotl + IO is literally free mmr giving her constant supply of mana covering Medusa's main weakness which is the laning phase. New Medusa is shitty and her only weakness is preventing her from farming, but with how big the map is the task of preventing her from farming is a lot harder.

[@nikolakarapejevski]

she has no weakness atm

[@yuzycute]

@@nikolakarapejevski she has, if she doesn't then she'd have 100% winrate

[@mental9080]

this hero truly ruined the state of dota 2

[@xana968]

Naaaaillllssss

[@distritochristianangeloa.157]

No ones picking her nowadays since WR exist

[@peachpink2831]

@@distritochristianangeloa.157 17% pick rate across all rank (avg 8%) and 55% winrate.

[@StriderLoweyd10]

When valve hires a person from the league balance team:

[@orvenpamonag2234]

Aside from medusa, the black king bar rework was a total disaster.

[@2peterpunz139]

Despite Blitz vagueness.....he still gives a good review out of everything that is needed to be heard

[@skymedic0620]

Medusa in a nutshell Can farm Can nuke Can stun Can support Can tank Can end

[@dineshsadhwani3717]

which makes sense cause universal hero

[@emptycode1782]

Nuke ?

[@Evolution-Is-A-Blatant-Lie]

@@emptycode1782 If she is lvl 25 and has Skadi,manta, a deadlus, and BKB, and walks into teamfight with ult on she can easily get a triple kill-rampage. Hence the nuke.

[@skymedic0620]

@@emptycode1782 Medusa with Phylatery

[@abah9033]

​@@emptycode1782 you can spam snake to 1 hero and you still gain at least 90% of the mana cost or smth Old dusa you cant spam snake to only 1 target, its loss mana

[@RicoIbrahima]

u can actually make her sleep with Titan's stomp. and keep hitting her, she will not wake up because she didn't lose health to wake up

[@joshualaster9779]

2 months later... MEDUSA is so nerfed in 7.33e that she is total crap yet again! HER MANA is not like regular HP. It is actually worse than having regular HP. This has reduced her to nothing!

[@boomknight1015]

In warcraft base game, they had a skill called Mana burn where you point and click, both taking mana away as well as doing damage based on how much mana got taken away. Why have they never added that to dota 2? It would point and click her to death.

[@zakuxz9818]

Nix used to have a spell like that, many mana burns were remove from the game sadly

[@imfinishedgrinding638]

Honestly he should make one for Windranger since she has definitively taken the top spot now.

[@mhdvhd8693]

this is why i love blitz, u can always expect true words from him

[@fakesocialdynamics9929]

they won't even just revert the hero back when they know they fucked up that's a big problem, before long there is gonna be a community of players that plays 7.31 or something

[@Zerouxa]

Still remember a few day ago someone pick Medusa on a turbo game with no counter and he feel so good winning the game flaming my team because i stomp their safe lane early game

[@daniyaljahan8181]

There's only one that stands at the pinnacle of broken heros. Elder Titan

[@AK-zi2rg]

SECRET vs ENTITY division 1 WEU - 2023 summer tour 3 , this game showed how dark seer and Shadow demon can counter medusa hard, her presence made her a threat for her own team.

[@TheSLashera]

The medusa and Ogre reworks in my opinion are awesome as concepts because they give a lot of individuality to these heroes and they make sense lore wise. But such massive overhauls ware bound to have problems. Basically Dota(moba games in general) always require playtesting. Especially when sometimes even the slightest tweaks can turn a hero from God tier to Dog tier and vice versa.

[@Tintelinus]

Yeah I don't mind Dusa in concept, her numbers just need to be tweaked.

[@gibokfanjs9]

This hero needs some testing and tweaking for it to become balanced. The mana shield rework is quite interesting tbh and I like these kinds of uniqueness in heroes. She just chucks 1 snake into a whole team and she gains back her mana which is more important. It's not like with back then she gains health back with satanic you can disarm her. Maybe allow Break to make Mana Shield drain even more? Who knows.

[@ehrenromblon5392]

2 damage per point of mana at level 1 shield, that's like level 3 shield from old patch.

[@ElatedSphee]

to be fair, her health is basically non existent

[@ahimsalogos4598]

I remember a long time ago that my team went offline and I was left alone against 5 enemy heroes in late-game. I beat all 5 of them with only Medusa. Medusa is a broken hero.

[@clydenavs8498]

Guess what we are going to wait 17 months for the next patch called 7.34b so we have to deal with it until late 2024 am i wrong? I will bet $100 we will get 7.34 late 2024

[@davidvanmeelis3159]

Great video, thanks mr blitz.

[@Zestieee]

I guess there should be two types of break (basic break and strong break) as it's the case with dispel types. Would be fair if there was a Strong break effect that would break Mana shield.

[@cancerguy5435]

Honestly an easy fix I see is to make items like shiva reduce mana regeneration as well as health regeneration. Or just to add a new item specifically targeted at this objective. Something like Witch Blade + Diffusal that would poison the mana pool of its target.

[@lobwver]

finally someone adressing the timings difference that makes Medusa actually a perfectly fine pick against AM in higher elos

[@Valdaxexe]

i love getting full teamkilled by a turret standing still hitting multiple heroes and taking 0 damage

[@PaszerDye]

Been banning Dusa since i saw the first vids on how to play her after the rework. Played against her twice in the few matches she wasn't banned. One as Husk mid, and another as Sniper with safelane AM on my team. She just absolutely melted to Burning Spear after it ate through her shield and she even had a KotL on her team. Denied & bullied her and even stole her ancient stack. Then with the sniper one, just built Diffusal into Disperser and assisted AM when aiming for her. Ultimately this vid assumes the absolute ideal for a Medusa pick. Her own team's draft can easily stymie her if they don't build around her, and without teamwork or back up, she will still melt away anyhow.

[@YaoMingPS]

Makes me think about old OD with his Q stealing 4 int every atk. Gud time.

[@Florianmunz]

this explains why I win easy with medusa. I thought I lost my noobness

[@DavidBrit101]

What about the matchup against PL when he gets diffusal blade, doesn't he also win? Or Slark when he can steal the stats?

[@eriss_solevar]

I like your narration. I will follow you.

[@defearl]

Eh. Unbearable passive is not new. Tiny and Pudge’s passives have always been unbreakable.

[@Drunk_Whiskey]

Me and my friend have gained more than 700 mmr by just banning AM- Nyx and picking Dusa-KoTL every single game. It's sad that Dusa gets banned every game these days

[@ghostdivision6877]

Bruh the hero now is still unfair after one nerf, needs more tweaks

[@nerrick9602]

u gaining 700 mmr is the exact reason why she banned in every game man

[@VTheTuber]

Bro ur literally satan

[@MieczyslawPawelKolenda]

Agree! She is strong in lane, snake does 500 damage, she insta kills the wave and goes to jungle. Now with yet another rework lvl 5 dusa has 75% damage resistance (2.6+0.4) at level 7 her snake can restore around 300 mana which is roughly 1k damage and she can do it 12 (9?) Seconds CD???? What hero can deliver 2 to 3 k damage min 10????? And ye her snake still does 500 damage())) With level 25 she has 80% damage resistance, Butterfly broviding extra 30% reduction you are looking at 85% damage reduction (you can also buy Sange and Kaya and reduce mana loss by 25% being able to reduce damage physical and pure by 90 and magical by 85%), snake can restore about 600 to 800 mana (it is 3.5 to 4k damage of all types)

[@viy4581]

Ive seen a lot of pro teams pick anti mage offlane vs medusa going like crimson guard for early- mid presence and just fail to have any impact compared to other offlaners. But if u play him in the carry role then u need so much space to come online. Nothing seems to work well for anti mage

[@onurs6848]

Medusa= Tankiest hero + Best farmer + Bets Pusher + Best Team Fighter + Best Midgame hero + Best Late game hero + Best HG defender + Decent laner just snake and waste no mana while pushing the lane and harrasing at the same time + One of the easiest hero to play zero skill/brain required....

[@HelicopterShark]

Just give mana shield a line saying manashield is treated like hp for armour, magic resist and health regen amps and debufs apply to mana at a 80% efficiency. Or you gain 30% of your Max mana as Max life but while below 50% mana, mana shield is only 50% as effective and spells cost 50% mana 50% hp. Sure it's not as simple but still effectively the same theme.

[@SheepyPanda95]

What you don't understand with Dark Seer countering Medusa is (I dunno if it's still the same thing or it was changed) when he gets his Aghs/Shard, the illusion he creates with his Wall hits harder than the original hero.

[@ghorlik432]

Best counter for dusa - Bane's ult.

[@vo1ce147]

In theory yes but again it's still the same applying with am and ds problem she can online faster by just moving to fucking massive junggle, the best option I have found is the offlane am style with Zeus and try as hard as possible to hunt dusa down, it work for me and my buddy like 70% of the time.

[@jamesdebenham7787]

@@vo1ce147 Thats pretty smart, although picking blind AM into potential blind Dusa in pubs can be 50/50 you could also rock the Nyx with the AM or any high kill threat

[@vo1ce147]

@@jamesdebenham7787 well if you goes with standard bf yeah it pretty bad blind am but the offlane style even as safelane is safer for blind picking imo, the problem is you need a real pos 1 to compensate that like if you go pos 1 am , mid can be Zeus or offlane can be something like pudge or doom, the reason why I don't really like nyx he online really janky as any cores role the best bet I can think of is phylactery into full dragon even then the ultimate is took as long time for do one gank , while am can Perma her everytime he want as long having good vision control and Zeus ult now and then ( Gondar can fill same role as Zeus but again much limited).

[@reddbest0153]

without diffusal(every illu heroes), heroes that can mana burn or axe how can u deal with medusa? no other choice than to gank her early?

[@kuronekogamer2065]

Just remember that games like this balanced heroes mean boring heroes. "If everyone is a superhero, then no one is a superhero.

[@basimaziz]

I hate Medusa so much... She's NEVER been fun to play against. AFK farms for 50 minutes then wins. It's not a fun game, it's just slow, nothing interesting happens, then we all die. Now? Now she's just completely unfair.

[@alifhafizbinjasni5644]

Haha. Bet u having fun against her now. 10 min farm and proceed to shred evryone

[@basimaziz]

@@alifhafizbinjasni5644 Ehlan habibi~. Also, I actually haven't played dota 2 in like, 1-2 years. lol. This is me going based off my previous experience, where she was cancer. My comments about her current iteration are just based off the patch notes. Which, by the looks of it, she's even more cancer now. X)

[@vo1ce147]

Well they can just you know tone down that 98% dmg absorb to make it fair

[@bamwhat7478]

got 100% winrate against dusa using darkseer as the only counter the thing is you use your illu to kill her teammates then take him down last can easily kite out dusa got no mobility and never buys mobility item. with aura items and shard you can reduce so much of her damage then slow her with shard while saving your allies with move speed when you get so much kill with hero illu you cna get an ags thats basically 2 unkillable stronger dusa if you cant still finish buy refresher 4 dusa that deals 120% if her damage that is unkillable cause of mana shield mechanic but most of the time you can drain dusas mana just by ult and shard based on my experience

[@khanhadul7471]

it was a funny patch as a medusa main i will literally first pick and even with counters just win lol miss those days

[@laughingmonkeytv5749]

Can you make a video explaining how to move rank from herald to immortal tips and steps.

[@The_KO_Gaming]

I feel windranger defuse is a good counter to dusa to.

[@acenonix]

"if everyone is broken the game is balanced so let's nerf cm" ice frog probably

[@eutimiolongoria4696]

Who carries harder then? PL, Dusa or Specter?

[@rolyxx]

what a great blitz video now lets watch it

[@muhiddeny.misbak542]

IMO Medu can still be countered using PL with diffu rush build

[@MegaAasdasdasd]

Icefrog said it multiple times in the past even before dota 2, that dota is not a balance game and will always revolve around meta. some heroes will get buffed and some will get nerfed, it all about the meta

[@elly9513]

Do pure damage bypass the mana shield?

[@imfinishedgrinding638]

Nope. If it did Medusa would be the worst hero in Dota ever. 0 strength and str gain and dies to absolutely any sufficient pure damage.

[@nedretmujcinovic6771]

If any hero is op that is windranger invis windrun

[@lilbirb082]

So diffusal blade is just not a thing?

[@MattDoesLife539]

The Xqc of Dota 2.

[@Videoskuker]

what about nyx or diffu?

[@voidgnome790]

i love your dota rant video os entertaining

[@maya_4160]

Isn't PL also viable option to counter her, cause he's has alot kagebunshin sh*t and he also always farm diffusal blade first

[@nikolakarapejevski]

how does dark seer medusa counter ?

[@kemuelmelgar7702]

For my opinion I say this is the best rework for Medusa compare back then. I know its broken that 98% block damage to all types is ridiculous, but I say she still broken before this rework, I can only say that what makes her broken is that Mana Shield can't be "Break" by any abilities like Netherntoxin, Fan of Knives or Silver Edge.

[@Haruthegoodlookingboy12]

imagine if they plan tiny become universal hero.....

[@levisamom5069]

I think tiny should stay strength...i know he's an all-rounder hero that can be played in any role but strength makes sense for his character design...and making him universal might make him even more efficient and remove the shortcomings he had this making him op

[@69camiloo]

@@HappySmilingDog-d7u real

[@ejicint]

please don't give them ideas 😢

[@sonitgorla4125]

Necro universal would be fun

[@ggdevv]

cant become universal if tiny dont have any agi

[@johnhcorwin]

So basically she doesn't need magic resistance or armor because her HP is mana, so the most effective items would be those that remove mana?

[@wolontong]

Glad when I touched my first new game it was only 1 game and there is no Medusa. Now I'm gonna quit until next patch.

[@Farius_SP]

Mana shield not being affected by break is like wraith king's reincarnation not being affected by it, it's hero defining, it would make no sense

[@vo1ce147]

In wk cases is not that bad in dusa cases is stupidly bs .

[@thestormnextdoor]

What about bristelback and... bristleback

[@yagoosidol6338]

wk ult procs after he's dead, which is why break doesnt work. your debuff is gone by then.

[@xana968]

I just found out now that mana shield does not affected by break, despite being fucking passive

[@Farius_SP]

@@yagoosidol6338 Okay then let's say things like meepo's divided we stand, pudge's flesh heap, or tiny's grow, the thing is that medusa would have to get reworked again if break were to disable mana shield

[@Mr_Fr34ky]

They should just let break work on Medusa and also make it so that the HP damage reduction of mana sheild isn't 98% Then maybe she can be a bit more balanced.

[@distritochristianangeloa.157]

Welp WR wreck Medusa now since she can easily buys Diffusal and she isnt picked that much. Magnus/WR carry and Clinkz pos4 is the new META

[@gamerkyl2220]

i think od might be a counter? because of the mana reduction and get some dps hero to help

[@Satanic016]

intro song pls

[@elalcazar7374]

wr with diffu works like a treat against dusa.

[@JohnPaulBuce]

from axe dunk meme to unkillable snek

[@yousifmq]

When i tell my friends medusa is OP, they say, NOOOO IT IS FAIR, YOU ARE JUST BAD sure man, sure

[@Casual-Netizen]

Suggestion: Damage absorption lower to 75% OR Lower the Damage per Mana

[@ivanpsbg599]

What about PL with diffusal blade

[@ThatLampTho]

Clinkz always going through some timeskip training arc for every patch 😂 Never had a problem with medusa, i would always beat her up. *I mean i would always beat up who picked her

[@allisvain123]

Why not make her shield an active ability. Make it so that activating it would give her mana shield for set amount of time and give the ability a cooldown?

[@suckanegg69]

she would be dogshit then, making her entirely reliable on dispel items and not damage items

[@greedfana1788]

this patch bro gave me depression

[@freepress3631]

As a medusa main, I'm disgusted by this reworked tbh, let alone against the lane, pure cancer

[@kittersq]

about passives not being broken... It's how it's supposed to be. You can't just brake tiny or WK or meepo ult, it would be just stupid. Medusa's shield fits nicely in this list. What, just turn 4000 hp into 200 with brake? Is it balanced for you? Oh, right, you insert this part in the video just for the comedy effect

[@ky9999]

Just make it not a passive, like how it used to be, if it aint broke, why change?

[@Pmon21]

let's give her a spotlight.. back in my days, naix avatar ultimate is the final boss.

[@xprorzmafiax8238]

I was waiting for this vid

[@theunknownplayer9634]

Medusa counters: Axe and Undying Lion and Pugna

[@anirecorder2555]

These guys are crying that people are playing Medusa as support We've been doing that in SEA server since 2015

[@sonitgorla4125]

It just got nerfed , it's much more situational now

[@ericl-l2757]

there's 3, you forgot aghs grimstroke

[@Doflaminguard]

Didnt everyone clowned on Medusa the first week?

[@vineheart01]

honestly, the medusa thing is the only change in 7.33 i think is absolutely retarded. No hero should be able to just tank the entire 5man team for minutes, tank the initial burst sure but multiple ability cooldowns and still kicking strong? thats just dumb. Nobody else gets that dumb unless were talking post-60m gameplay. She gets that dumb in like 20m and even if she didnt have a feedfest to buff her up.

[@amtart7964]

Patch 7.33 ruined Dota 2.

[@Apple_Beshy]

Nope you just hate changes

[@dagoat2596]

this game went downhill the moment Icefrog secretly retired 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Kayledon777]

wait you're alive??

[@psarohondembeatz8202]

lol dudleys theme gotta love it

[@lekrieg8618]

Axe vs medusa + manta = axe turns into a blender