The Hero's Shade made a huge mistake - part 2

[@Lucariogamer14]

“Someone is always going to suffer.” Poor Shade. He has no idea that the world he saved when he time-traveled is facing a much greater consequence without him.

[@theshadownator]

Could u please elaborate, i know i could look up it. Just curious

[@_Sage967_]

@@theshadownator Windwaker happens in the timeline he leaves

[@randompersonmanguy3365]

And link to the past happens in the timeline where he dies.

[@riddler6398]

In resume, the ganondorf you defeat in OoT gets sealed and link leves that timeline to go back to the past and stop ganondorf from even being a threat in the first place, however once he returns to the past It means that the timeline were he fought ganondorf is absent of the hero Spirit, therefore no hero will reincarnate once ganondorf eventually gets out of the sacred realm, and there will be, supposedly, no force that can oppose his conquering of hyrule

[@Lemuel928]

The greater consequence was the flooding oceans.

[@daniellelondon439]

“I just think the sword does what it wants.” It sure does, twilight. It sure does.

[@Jack5628]

Now I can't get the thought out of my head that the master sword just sprouts legs and keeps moving from location to location

[@Nintenja889]

@@Jack5628Fi would like to have a word with you.

[@MrJinglejanglejingle]

Well, that's not Twilight. That's Time. Twilight is the one he's talking to, with Midna.

[@KemarRaijin]

Especially when it wants to remind you that your batteries are low.

[@Schmuelu]

​@@Jack5628Fi probably takes control whenever nobody's looking, and just trolling the shit out of everyone

[@galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Fi just does whatever she feels is the best course of action for peace.

[@a.jthomas6132]

Seriously? I thought she is lives to served her grace's chosen hero. That's hella messed up.

[@LoneWolf5960]

For those who don't know Fi, she is a sentient entity that resides in the Master Sword in the Legend of Zelda Skyward sword series. It's a great series, one of my favorites in terms of Legend of Zelda stories. I recommend going to YTuber ChuggaConroy's channel to watch the walkthrough of it.

[@galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478]

@@a.jthomas6132 Not exactly, considering her actions are more calculated than you'd think. Her choices in Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom say that much. Sure, there were many people that had to deal with the terror the calamity brought and the forces of the demon king. However, Fi's decisions did ultimately bring peace to Hyrule. Plus, it's not like she was in the best position.

[@planetoforts]

She is cold and decisive, but her methods work

[@galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478]

@@planetoforts Exactly, sometimes a calculated and cold approach is better than a caring and reckless approach.

[@VivioSaf]

On Shades defense ... it was the sages who decided to throw Ganondorf into the Twilight Realm.

[@PJDAltamirus0425]

Yeah, tbh, the entire ganondorf spot of twilight could have been spare if the sages would have gone for the head. Even if the triforce of power emerged, you would a living , clumsy headless ganondorf. The chest was a horrible target

[@TheBanishedWind]

@@PJDAltamirus0425 The heart is called the heart for a reason.

[@Seadetwave]

"You should have gone for the HEAD"

[@ForemostCrab7]

@@TheBanishedWind Yea except a shot or a stab to the heart will Not *Instantly* kill you, you can have seconds, mere moments, heII, if you get medical attention bloody Immediately, you can survive...Losing your HEAD on the other hand, yea, there is no saving that. Always Go For The Head.

[@solarisnova9530]

​@ForemostCrab7 yup it's why snipers prefer headshots, take out the big old biological super computer we call a brain and we drop like puppets with out strings

[@EthanKironus8067]

...Link is going to try the time-traveling, isn't he? That "I need to sleep" reeks of "I need privacy so I can do something stupid."

[@bossbossy7149]

Okay I will definitely re-use this sentence :D

[@rachelhallaway9770]

I mean it's something he does in game at the Temple of Time in the forest. What's stopping him from walking out the front doors in the Past!Hyrule version of the Temple beyond 'game mechanics'? Er, apologies if that's spoilers...

[@EthanKironus8067]

@@rachelhallaway9770 My sister's played Twilight Princess and I know the plots of the other games, no spoilers to be had for me (I'm probably never playing any of these games through so no point in avoiding spoilers)

[@Brutalyte616]

Midna's anger would be justifiable if the fate of the Twili was known to the rest of Hyrule, but the Twili had presumably been stuck there for centuries at that point and Shade would probably be the last person to know about something like that. If it was a prison that hadn't been opened in centuries, it would be totally reasonable to assume that whoever was trapped there had died, or that the prison was designed for people like Ganondorf that couldn't be killed conventionally. Either way, Shade made the right call at the time, but the Sages were the ones who ultimately made the decision to use the Mirror of Twilight when Ganondorf couldn't be killed.

[@nicholasrandall3507]

Could Midna honestly say she wouldn't do the same if their positions were reversed?

[@megasora4]

oh i doubt her anger is directed at the act of using the mirror for its purpose. its more she now has someone to blame directly for zant gaining power........ wich is still the wrong person as it was the sages that decided to put ganon in there. at least in the orginal lore, this alternative could put the blame solely on shade since he mentioned the lack of the master sword.

[@Brutalyte616]

@@megasora4 Well no. That part IS canon to Twilight Princess since this is basically after OoT Link went back in time and helped foil Ganondorf's rise to power. It's still years later, which begs the question as to why all the Sages are old men and not the OoT Sages, but I'd chalk that up to these being the 'original' Sages of OoT. As for the Master Sword? Link going after it is part of what doomed Hyrule as opening the seal gave Ganondorf access to the Triforce of Power and put Link in a coma for 7 years, so instead of taking a chance, he forced Ganondorf to try and overthrow Hyrule with his own power by not only not going after the Master Sword, but also breaking the keys you need to get to it. Then, by some twisted act of divine providence, Ganondorf got the Triforce of Power anyways and used it to survive his execution at the hands of the Sages, thus leading to him being sealed in the Mirror of Twilight.

[@ClericOfPholtus]

"I think it does what it wants" FUCKING ACCURATE This thing goes from casually shooting lasers, time travel, dimensional imprisonment, planar travel, and sometimes it's just a really good sword. No consistency

[@PJDAltamirus0425]

And someone’s it acts like a bloody phone that loses charge and gets batteries and another in gets broken and had to be zelda’s head for a thousand years for it to work. Another time it gets weak and has to be upgrade to work.

[@michaelwells2483]

I feel like it does whatever is needed for the Hero to be worthy of it/ strong enough to defeat whatever form Demise's Hatres has currently taken.

[@Mr.Brothybear]

Yea Does what it Wants

[@johnathanholmes1297]

Hold up. Laser and Imprisonment I get. But wasn't it Ocarina of Time that allow Link to travel through time? And when has the sword have planar travel?

[@DarkenMidnacrystal]

it was forged using the 3 pure fires of elder gods. If it didnt do crazy whacky shit then it would be even stranger

[@ShadowsWrath4]

Hey, you all remember how The Moon Children practically _directly talked to the player_ asking them that if you "do the right thing" "does it make _everyone_ happy?" You all remember that? _CAUSE TIME DOES AND HE'S HAVING FLASHBACKS RIGHT NOW._ [muttering to self] personality-defining trauma during my most impressionable years and Majora's Mask is the game that keeps on giving, apparently.....I'm still wearing a mask of a face wherever I go.....even if I've coped by telling myself that the mask is sincere and that it's my real face.....

[@Tabbychu]

I WAS THINKING THE EXACT SAME THING!!! LIKE YOU JUST *KNOW* EVERYTHING IN TERMINA FUCKED HIM UP, AS IF HE WASN'T ALREADY TRAUMATIZED ENOUGH

[@TheBanishedWind]

"You real face... what kind face is it...? I wonder... the face under the mask... is that... your true face?"

[@ShadowsWrath4]

@@TheBanishedWind ACTUALLY MADE ME REALIZE I HAD BEEN WEARING A DIFFERENT PERSONALITY AND ACTING HOW I THOUGHT EVERYONE EXPECTED ME TO BEHAVE AT EVERY NEW PLACE I WENT TO I FELT AS FAKE AS IT SOUNDED MADE ME RECONSIDER ALL OF MY FRIENDSHIPS AND HAD ME HAVE AN EXISTENTIAL CRISIS AT LIKE SEVEN YEARS OLD

[@TheBanishedWind]

@@ShadowsWrath4 WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU SCREAMING

[@ShadowsWrath4]

@@Tabbychu Let's just face it, Termina fucked ALL of us up as players. And the ones that didn't it got later the more people thought about how messed up each situation in the game was. Even I remember having vaguely rose-tinted glasses and child innocence towards this game. I understood that certain parts of the game were serious, but I went past them with the usual self-confidence and bravery. Then years passed and the more I self-reflected and thought about the game the more the fridge horror kicked in and the more I realized the Rated E for Everyone rating was a walking meme. I won't say that the Moon Children didn't have an effect on seven year old me, though. OH THEY VERY MUCH DID. Kinda hard to ignore the fact that they were talking directly to me.

[@tarango759]

Honetly, can't blame Shade. "Oh neat, an interdimentionnal prison, perfect to lock Ganondorf! And I also did my reseach, to make sure nothing bad can happen!" I mean, if big G didn't escaped, they would still think it was an ok move!

[@ShadowsWrath4]

This poor innocent no-longer-a-child-but-stil-in-a-man's-body is just trying his hardest to help everyone and everything he touches just eventually ends up FUBAR even when he's just trying to "do the right thing". Save Hyrule? Congrats, you've doomed it twice. Save Termina? Congrats, the Mask Trio are still dead and the Bomb Shop Lady still got mugged. He just feels like he has to protect everyone and he's clearly cracking from under the pressure and trauma. He wants to do perfect but he just. Can't. And now he's started a third incident without even trying and this poor cinnamon roll is starting to break.

[@Center-For-I.E.D.Mismanagement]

It's not Link's fault. This is all because of the Curse that Demise set in motion upon his death throes. A curse that never ends...

[@skaynne54]

​@Center-For-I.E.D.Mismanagement Yeah, but unless records or information of Demise exist in this AU, during Time's Era, Demise can't really be blamed, since Time probably doesn't about him. He's just another Hero, trying to help, and thinking he's the one who has to stop all of this madness he tried to deal with before. Sonit is understandable why he thinks there is so much to carry on his shoulders.

[@Center-For-I.E.D.Mismanagement]

@@skaynne54 It doesn't matter whether any Link or Zelda beyond Skyward Sword are aware of Demise's Curse. The curse influences them, Ganondorf and any circumstances involving the three regardless. Additionally, if this fan comic is disregarding these aforementioned firmly established parts of the franchises lore, then that is grossly irresponsible of the creator and an insult to the characters. Furthermore, Time Link isn't "just another Hero," he is and was *The Hero of Time.* That is not insignificant nor was the burden foisted upon him. To consider Time Link's role as anything less than legendary is just as insulting.

[@incarnation_of_immortality3422]

Okay I pictured Takahata101 doing his Perfect Cell Voice for this comment.

[@SoulOfJustice1994]

Nah, he's had plenty of time to grow out of the child mindset by now. But if he really was the one to find the Mirror of Twilight, that may have been his worst mistake on the level of leading Ganondorf to the Sacred Realm.

[@Freedmoon44]

The irony is, Midna does calm down a bit when she left, she knew that by all logic, this Link who had to deal with Ganon too wouldnt know that the people inside the mirror survived and thrived despite being jailed there, just like she didnt know what was happening on the other side either, the only thing she knows is thzt the mirror is the path to the other side and its what was used to jail them there, he has no reason to think from his perspective that it was anything else besides a prison filled with people long dead. Nor would he have had the opportunity to check because if Ganon became such a threat on her side theres no reason he wouldnt be on the other side too. She just cant be rational when she and her people suffered so much over such a simple thing as "oh yea we bested him and sent him your way, good luck"

[@Firemaster27]

Give my man a break, he just resurrected his own body, only to get folded by Ganon anyway 💀

[@alluringming]

'sword does what it wants' imagine if fi able to manifest itself and star striking a conversation with the links.

[@aidanwells4356]

If that would happen what would fi even say?

[@NoHandle44]

I was expecting that "I'll kill you" to have more emotion. But I think it still works.

[@magoichi75]

No matter what he did, either by staying in the future, time traveling back to his childhood or outright dying. The world would always seem to venture back to destruction, I couldn't even picture the sheer dread his spirit must go through

[@galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478]

Can you blame Midna for being pissed off? She just wanted to make the most of what her people had, then the sages and in her eyes Shade fucked it all up by sealing Ganondorf in the twilight realm. Honestly, I really empathize with how she feels.

[@-Alari-]

Poor Midna was trying her best to save her kingdom just like shade was, she must've felt like no one cared about the Twili realm 😭

[@a.jthomas6132]

Same here. Even as a light dweller, would stand on her behalf. I honestly would question Shade's decision and asked him if he is considered he is making the similar mistake as his Princess Zelda did after sending him back to the Child timeline. Ganondorf in the adult timeline did swore he will escape from the sacred realm and all leads up to the Great Flood in Windwaker.

[@yannalixe1852]

Il y a un point commun au deux lignes les secrets de la terre d' hyrule et surtout de la famille royale ! Le LINK SADE n'a rien à ce reprocher il est l'équivalent de GABRIEL BELMONT alias Dracula dans : LORDS OF SHADOW on lui a mentit imposé un destin il c'est efforcé à faire du mieux qu'il pu avec le peu de temps connaissances qu'on leurs à donné et tout deux on fini maudits pour canalisé un maux plus grand qu'eux et même la ils on pas céder ,ils sont l'incarnation du courage malheureusement pas de la sagesse d'ailleurs les plus grands fautif sont ceux qu'ils se sont défausser sur eux qui devaient incarner la sagesse !

[@JoshuaNelson-kl5zb]

@@a.jthomas6132windwaker is in the child timeline

[@julesop3866]

@@JoshuaNelson-kl5zb No the Adult Timeline, the timeline that Link from the Ocarina of Time game (Shade) left, because Zelda used the Ocarina (of Time) to send him back to the past after he defeated Ganondorf. Since that reincarnation of Link is gone from that timeline, there was no available hero that was able to stop Ganondorf from nearly achieving his goal, since the heroic spirit of the Link that fought Demise in Skyward sword doesn't exist in that timeline anymore. Which led to the event where the Great Flood happened, which then leads to the events of Windwaker years later.

[@roxasnumberxiii9641]

Summer Rose really did an excellent job depicting Midna's rage, hate, and disgust!

[@kittyhatemachineVA]

Summer Rose here! Thank you so very much for your kind words!! 💜

[@francoalmiron5107]

Poor Midna, her people always suffered even when they found peace, all because no one knew the truth back then.

[@ellesandralady8596]

To be fair, shade had no idea that midna and her people where there. And especially learning about zant and gannondorf working together

[@GoblinmuncherVA]

Damn.. This was supposed to be an awesome alternate tale of Hero's Shade helping Twilight link out, but instead it turns out hes only adding more stress and turmoil by interfering, but it is very very interesting I can't wait to see where this goes!

[@Twilit_Gamer]

Reminder, Time, that Twilight is currently around the age you were *after* you pulled the sword. As Rauru told you, you were too young to wield it when you first pulled it from the pedestal, hence why you were sealed away for 7 years. But why am I explaining all this? It's just a comic, not like he'll be reading this. I do like how this sort of sets up Twilight's journey back to the pedestal to reach the Temple of Time tho

[@sutoriimmortal2177]

Well at this point with the mention of time travel and the sword doing what it wants AND the fact that Ganon just keeps coming back, there's really only one person that could shine a light on the truth of the situation. Skyward Link.

[@The_nerd_hinox]

I love how twilight (the hero of twilight) is just like: I don’t believe this is going to bed so I can process what i just heard.😂

[@DarkLink1996.]

Fun fact: the manga shows that OoT Link followed Ganondorf into the Twilight Realm, taking the Golden Wolf form. He and Midna are actually pretty close, before his body is destroyed by Zant's power

[@MegaManDBZX]

Wait. I thought it was implied in the game that the Hero of Time left the Master Sword for the next Hero. That’s why Skull Kid was guarding it.

[@TheBanishedWind]

Nope, he just put it back so that "the road between times" would be closed or some mumbo-jumbo.

[@king_n_d_north285]

I’m living for this series right now!

[@elishaschoonover8914]

I think Midna just needs some time to cool off... She is rightfully angry, but Time had no way of knowing and that isn't his fault. Time seems tired... He is probably very aware of how no action is free completely of consequence, considering everything that happened in Majora's Mask.

[@jef_et]

geeeeeez WHY IS THIS SO FREAKING GOOD?!?!?

[@wgs5643]

Fi: You are correct former Master I do indeed do what I want

[@_ABoyNamedBlue_]

Midna: *Man, I swear I’ll knock you out! You lucky this boy is holding me back*

[@gscsilvavaladares7065]

Now that I noticed ,the twilight realm is basically the Austrália of Hirule.

[@hyzmarie]

Oh my goodness I didn’t think of that lol

[@ProjectIceman]

😂😂😂

[@knightofarkronia9968]

Shade and Midna both need hugs!

[@a.jthomas6132]

Time travel can be super complex in the Legend of Zelda mythology. Like the rivers flow, time can created into two diverted timelines when changing something in the past. and that's what the Hero of Time/The Hero's Shade did.

[@jacosyutin3885]

Yea, but timelines never comes without quantum possibility and/or probability, depending on how you change it between a choice and a chance. And how do i know? Cuz it's no different from the riddle between two doors.

[@zerosorigin8387]

Tbf, it was Zelda who created two timelines the moment she sent Link back to the past.

[@jacosyutin3885]

@@zerosorigin8387 yea. Yea that's true.

[@nishdoctor5030]

Man I'm really getting into these

[@Sirnomegusta]

You dont wield the Master Sword ... it wields you

[@Leopez02]

Midna is the most beautiful and powerful Zelda princess damn I miss her and Wolf Link I really hope to see Twilight Princess HD Port for Switch! 🌌🌕🐺✨️👑

[@Xariel597]

Amen, brother!! #MidnaForever!!

[@Chrisezo]

Yeah, Time was right on the money over what he said, despite whatever he does no matter if he succeeds or fails, the essence of Ganondorf always remains, and it actually causes the split in the timeline according to Hyrule historia, so that is why Time is the Link with the most hardship, especially if you even consider his background, since he became an orphan because of the war, lived his childhood with the Kokiri where he wasn't really 100% accepted, and then without having even grown up had to take up the mantle of the hero, in order to try and stop Ganondorf and as a result of being too young he had been sealed in the Sacred Realm, where he lost many years of his life until he was finally deemed as worthy, then had to fight Ganondorf and his minions as they had taken over Hyrule, only for then not even be able to reap in the rewards of his victory after so much struggle, as freaking Zelda sent him back to the past without even consulting him on the idea, where after he stopped Ganondorf from usurping the Hyrule royalty by telling them of the betrayal, he had to go on a journey to find Navi again after she left him for some unknown reason, and then live within the 3 day cycles of the whole Majoras Mask fiasco, where no matter who he saved or what he did, he would not be able to reap the rewards from it, since even after he stopped Majora and the 3 day cycle stopped, nothing that he did or struggled with had been witnessed by anyone else, except for maybe Tattle the fairy but she immediately went to the Skull kid's side and her brother as that is what the final scene of the game shows, so its very likely that Link ended up alone and full of regret, as he never got hailed to be a hero despite everything he did, and that's just extremely sad, considering that all the other Links got their chance to reap from the benefits of having saved the world and being recognized for it, so its no wonder that Time ended up as the Hero's shade, and its rude of Midna to take her frustrations out on him, since most likely Time faced much more hardships than her who was basically the Royalty of the Twilight Realm.

[@Vouru]

The sword does what it wants is the best line ever.

[@scp2539]

holy f i never thought of that before, time travel would be so nice in so many of the games. it was a mechanic often enough I didn't think about it when it didn't happen. i assume its because the time travel has a limit, likely based on the goddess's powers at the time, so it can travel if it can make effective changes within its travel window.

[@AngelOfNoMercy]

midna..... i know ive said this before but he was a kid when he found it, if i had found a way to seal ganondorf and it had prison on the side i would think it was meant for beings LIKE ganondorf. and its not just your people suffering EVERYONE is.....

[@ianhunter363]

That does raise a few questions. How did Ganondorf get the Triforce of Power when it was still sealed in the sacred realm to begin with? He never interacted with it in the child timeline since Link never opened the door.

[@julesop3866]

Must have something to do with Link from OoT being sent to the past, while he was wielding the Triforce of Courage in the Adult Timeline. Since Shade was chosen to be it's wielder, the Triforce decided to split and go to their chosen wielders from the Adult Timeline in the Child Timeline (because that divine wishing-device thought it would be mad funny I guess). That's the only reason I could think of. Ganondorf has the Triforce of Power in the other timeline, so the Triforce of Power went to him in this timeline. It was activated(?) when Ganondorf got stabbed at the Arbiter's Grounds, just so it's wielder would live (Until he got stabbed by the Master Sword).

[@TheBanishedWind]

@@julesop3866 Confirmed in Hyrule Historia. The Triforce split when the Hero Of Time returned to the past, as shown both in the final scene where we see the Triforce Of Courage on Link's hand, and when the Triforce Of Power showed up on Ganondorf's hand after his execution. It's also why TP!Zelda has Wisdom, it was passed down through the Royal Family's bloodline.

[@tuxedeoboi9155]

TP Link: can the sword still do that. Me: I mean kinda. You sorta do that back at the ruin where you first get the sword. I can't remember if the dungeon is still referred to as the Temple of time but yeah

[@THEASIANCHAOS]

If link was a gta heist crew member

[@forluvrr]

wait elaborate on this wdym💀

[@THEASIANCHAOS]

I’m talking about link being a gta v heist crew member and taking on scores with the gta v protagonist and Lester Crest. Link would be a great demolition in the union depository heist/job.

[@Netatatatatatatatata]

Awwww why is TP Link so adorableeeeeee

[@a.jthomas6132]

Oh Midna is damn pissed!!!🤣

[@linaly243]

"I've never been any good in talking" 😂❤

[@jaquanmiller2526]

This is just interesting stuff from the Legend of Zelda universe, but that's a no-no from Shade.

[@nathancoote]

I cant wait for the other next chapter!😆

[@Z.E.92]

Just remember... (First, as much as I can't stand Skyward Sword... It HAS good canon) Fi IS still THE Master Sword... Look at the memories in Breath of The Wild, there's a point where it seems To speaks to Zelda. So, the Master Sword "doing whatever it wants" makes perfect sense. Fi is STILL kind of there, in the sword... She does what she needs to when she needs to WHEN it is somehow capable for her. Simple as that.

[@MarioGamer291]

This video was good and interesting

[@rosskerr1439]

Well, this is a side to the story I hadn’t considered. But it tracks with Ganondorf and Zant and their little conspiracy.

[@CJusticeHappen21]

The Twilight Realm is sort of like the Mesopelagic Zone of the ocean (literally our oceans "Twilight Realm"), that only gets about 1% of the available light. If this parallel is accurate, then that suggests to me that beyond the Twilight Realm resides to the equivalent to the next level below it, the Bathypelagic Zone or *Midnight Realm.* And below that, we'd have the Abyssopelagic, literally *The Abyss.* And within the deepest part of the Abyss, the equivalent of the Hadopelagic Zone. *Hades.* Which if I have this right from Echos of Wisdom would be where the Three Golden Goddesses sealed away Null.

[@dejinnthedjinn5311]

TP Link seems to be understanding the time travel part well. Kinda.

[@CircuitReborn]

Oneday we need a game that shows the origin of the Twilight Mirror...

[@ivanquarman01]

And so, the hero's shade explains the lore of of ocarina of time to twilight link.

[@Саша-в9н6р]

new video cool!😁👍🏻

[@avapalacios1122]

Solution: put ganon in the backrooms. Problem solved 👍🏻

[@TheBanishedWind]

I'd like to keep him far away from my friend Blanche, thanks much.

[@monsee5432]

Tbh- I’m starting to question everything in the Zelda universe 😭 I mean what’s next? A game of the modern day where they actually find most of the answers and break the seal for good and the many variations of both Zelda and Link make their last and ultimate appearance and telling the hero that they sincerely thank them on breaking the curse and all?? It’s now a headache but I do understand on both sides of the hero’s shade and Midna being upset like I’d be upset too

[@pyrus0zero]

Twilight link holding his girl back from killing OOT link seem just right for some reason.

[@runethefluf3529]

The line about there always being a consequence makes me wonder.. How would Skyward Sword's Link handle meeting these two or even any other Links? Considering technically he brought on Ganon by fighting Demise.

[@robertazurine9762]

I dunno why Twilight is surprised about time travel, he did it too, just only in one locale.

[@JJ_R]

0:25 “If I had known there were people there…” Didn’t Shade *just* say that he read that it was a prison? (0:09) What kind of prison doesn’t have prisoners?

[@nousername191]

The kind that's empty and ready for use

[@jingo4754]

Could also be a prison for monsters. Don't necessarily have to put people in it

[@ingetamna]

that, and there's a big difference between a prison full of prisoners and a prison full of a fully functioning, peaceful society.

[@LoneWolf5960]

I believe he meant innocent people, families, communities, etc. when he said "people" (he is not good at talking). His first impression based on those ancient texts was probably the worst people and monsters that could not or shouldn't be killed were locked up till who knows when, except known to the Goddesses and maybe their agents (they had a hand in the creation of the Twilight Realm as a means of banishment according to the lore). Not actual civilized or societal people who have homes and made a civilization. It may be similar to what I heard about Australia's origins. It was a place meant for criminals, but over time, those criminals laid the foundation for a civilization. It no longer BECAME a prison but a HOME for the descendants of the criminals with the criminal origins fading from history. That's probably not a common scenario that can happen in most people's minds, so that's not a predictable event unless perchance to historians. The people who made the historical text probably did not predict that the original prisoners of the Twilight world would adapt and create a society in Twilight or that afterward, the denizens in the light realm (the sages who guard the twilight mirror specifically) would add another prisoner to the Twilight world while relying on old outdated information that the other world was JUST a prison created by the goddesses and their agents for the evilest of beings.

[@jasonbell8515]

But Twilight DID time travel! To the exact place- er, *time* that Shade left the Master Sword.

[@TheBanishedWind]

Pocket dimension where that moment in time was stored.

[@madwill6569]

Things got worse, poor Time.

[@13DARKYLAND13]

Well, my name is telma so.... Come here boy, i have your bed ready on the 2nd floor, so relax and sleep, tomorrow you have a lot to think about

[@edwardtdm123]

Midna probably needs some time alone to cool her head off. 🕰

[@Galaxyechofighter777]

Poor midna And poor twilight link

[@Soloong_Gaybowzer]

Ovegacart may have a thing for Telma, but true men of culture go for Goth Girl Agitha.

[@madzman7214]

Well he hasn't tried beating Ganon at his own game yet say putting on the fierce deity mask with majoras mask at the same time to go full overkill dark forbidden magik of old to wreck his day / pretty sure the time travel was the temple and the sage fault using the master sword for magical shenanigans cause he thought link was to short to use the sword also the sage who did it is dead and the temple is definitely ruined so good luck recreating that and before anyone says ocarina of time the song only went back 3 days

[@overlordextremegameexor]

I think its the sages are to blame for using it. I mean OoT Link discovered it but he didn't decided his to use it

[@fatalwaffle1715]

Interesting.

[@tomekorzechowski5852]

Yet Ganon knew

[@TheBanishedWind]

He found out when the Sages sent him there.

[@benogle4951]

Poor shade

[@meganpayette5996]

Are we sure Midna is not a cat?

[@garouchieflol]

huh the sword does what she pleases well yes that is what fi told the first in order to meet him again

[@manoftheusajones5147]

Such as Creating Zelda CDI!

[@emperenakinsinripendeleust6521]

No baby its not your fault

[@JoeandLIV]

A sword time travels ??

[@TheBanishedWind]

Play _Ocarina of Time_ boy, it'll answer all your questions.

[@JonnZth]

In Ocarina of Time its literally the main theme. It is kinda touched on that the sword has time-related powers in Skyward Sword too, but its mostly on Ocarina

[@kylegraham3192]

It’s not his fault how could he have known?

[@TheBanishedWind]

Midna's just angry because his innocent foolishness resulted in all the shit Zant did.

[@alizeearrigoni2919]

❤❤❤

[@Joel2Million]

link fucking telma confirmed?

[@d4rksonic474]

No, you horny idiot, she literally manages an inn.

[@TheBanishedWind]

Would be kinda wrong because he may be legal (16 is adulthood in Hyrule confirmed by AoL) he's kinda naïve.

[@eds7012]

*152nd like* 💫

[@Eljuezdelloopeterno]

first

[@leon4000]

One thing that Midna would eventually realize is the fact that the Twili were sealed in a place far from civilization. No one, not even Shade would know since any information about the Twili when they were known as the Dark Interlopers has since been either been a need-to-know basis for only the royal family and high ranked individuals or were lost to history, leaving only the Mirror of Twilight. Shade found the mirror and reported it to the Hyrule Kingdom and the Royal Family, and that was it. The Sages were the ones who made the decision to use it. Midna's behavior is still not without flaws, she jumped at Shade blaming him for something that was beyond his control. So how can he be expected to realize what the Mirror really was, when he lacked information about the true story behind the mirror? Midna has picked such a time to project at Shade when he wasn't the one making the decisions. He wanted to make sure Ganondorf stayed down for good, but the Triforce of Power made sure that didn't happen since after Ganondorf touched it, he didn't get full access to the Triforce as his heart wasn't pure during Ocarina of Time events. Ganondorf after Shade returned to his own time didn't have the Triforce, he was still in the middle of planning, but it was still on its way since Time Traveling was a challenging endeavor with consequences after the Sacred Realm was breached as soon as Shade pulled the Master Sword. Shade was focused on trying to deal with Ganondorf, and the events with the Twili were still shrouded in mystery to him. For all he knew, he found the Mirror and a sign that said a prison and told the Kingdom about it. The ones who Shade reported to were the ones who made the decision based on Shade's account of the discovery of the Mirror.