The Hero That BROKE Overwatch

[@wingedbluj1674]

The domino that led to the 5v5 vs 6v6 argument

[@BPViking]

True, that’s kind of crazy

[@moezfoez]

Eh More like the counter play lol

[@its_lucky2526]

*that led to 5v5

[@wingedbluj1674]

@@moezfoez Brig led to GOATS. GOATS led to role lock. Role lock led to double shield. Double shield led to 5v5.

[@_G.C]

​@@wingedbluj1674I still don't understand why they couldn't separate it into shield tanks and non shield tanks, and even if there's a discrepancy between them then they could just add characters to balance the number out

[@junkyporpoise4254]

I never like Brigitte since Overwatch 1, I didn't find her to play as or against. And whilst it's fine that the community despised the character, what was absolutely NOT ok was the community going after the voice actress of Brigitte, as if she had ANY impact on how the character was balanced. That to me was a huge wake up call to realising how toxic Overwatch was becoming.

[@BPViking]

Yeah that was ridiculous. Sadly a small group (proportionately) of people can do terrible things and reflect negatively on everyone else

[@cnaizhen]

Wait what?!? The OW fans went after the voice actress? Did some streamer start that and people followed like fools?

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

When people booed her in the Blizzcon, I think this is a fair way of showing discontent, all the spotlights, everyone will notice the fans protesting in a way (with reason). But that's the line right there, people who actually went on social media and cursed at her and so on, obviously that is stupid. But this soft mentality that people involved with awful decisions/performances shouldn't be criticized in any shape or form, that is toxic positivity right there

[@BPViking]

I agree, although in this case specifically I don’t think the voice actor had much to do with brig’s balancing

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

@@BPViking That's the thing, the actual people who works on the gameplay balance, they will never expose themselves. At best the director or a operation director. So, that was the opportunity for the players to sound their displeasure towards Brigitte. It's a dumb way to do it, but if the players stay quiet, the devs will just disregard the noise as "hate", meanwhile the product burns. And 6 years later, the cycle continues, the game is literally crumbling, the house is on fire, meanwhile Overwatch promotes "collaborations" with Transformers and Hero Academia

[@yaboytornado]

I like watching the history of OW1 after experiencing it myself…

[@pokerface4]

Real. It feels like researching some kind of historical golden age in textbooks that has long since passed. Except it's only been almost 10 years.

[@DankPit]

Holy crap is this why dads always have the history channel on

[@BPViking]

@DankPit you might be on to something

[@Rygabo]

Despite forcing role lock, I will never hate Brig more than Sombra.

[@arshad887]

Every person is born hating Sombra. Even if you’ve never played the game.

[@Rygabo]

@@arshad887 If Overwatch was a prison, Sombra mains would be below chomos.

[@viciousoz4188]

We feed off the hate

[@hungry_khid1007]

​@@viciousoz4188get nerfed loll

[@viciousoz4188]

@@hungry_khid1007 I'm actually doing way better after the patch cause she kills so quickly. Lol

[@BigDaddy-mr1pu]

id rather fight broken brig than mei ball or sombra every fucking day

[@reesyloko5741]

As dominant overpowered and annoying as brig was i still hate kiriko more

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

Brigitte had a really awful start, both characterization + gameplay, but with time the voice actress got better, the character got more likeable, etc.. now Kiriko is straight up annoying, the bratty personality, the voice actress sounds unpleasant on purpose, etc.. shitty personality + broken gameplay, that's a winning combination right there. And to add salt to the wound, the character is popular among the "whales" because she was designed to be a "waifu" smh so shameful to share the hobby with these creatures, jerking off to a goddamn cartoon that looks like a rejected character from Naruto, even self-humiliation has a limit

[@Rygabo]

@@reesyloko5741 having two get out of jail free options is pretty ridiculous, plus her tiny, anorexic hit box 😞

[@ethaphu5589]

​@@RygaboSorry to necro your comment though: Plus the fact her arms cover her head hitbox and depending on the angle it's literally impossible to HS her. Plus the fact her kunais have the size of a bowling ball and can two shot most things

[@AlessandroPioltelli]

I literally just typed in “Overwatch Brigette” and this video came up…. What are the odds you’d post this right when I wanted it!

[@BPViking]

Probably pretty low, but today the odds are in your favour :)

[@taurenplay]

im so tired of seeing the top of the mountain being considered the WHOLE mountain...

[@BPViking]

In what way?

[@taurenplay]

​@@BPViking she didnt break anything (alone), i am yet to see a "how sigma and orisa BROKE Overwatch" or "How goats BROKE meta" title it was a team effort but she is always THE poster, its a jigsaw puzzle and she is just a piece, its a GODDAMN STEW AND SHE IS BUT A CARROT!!!

[@BlazeD_7]

"How brig Broke overwatch" is a much better youtube title than "How Goats broke meta"​@@taurenplay

[@MercysNo.1]

At least she didn't break the OWR34 community...

[@FunyValentyne]

"Release-BRIG?!!" *hits the cig* "I haven't heard that name in years..." I shuddered and looked away with tear falling from my genji main eyes.

[@WarsGrasp]

ngl, this video seems more of "Goats sucked" and not brig.

[@BPViking]

That’s fair, could maybe have focused a little more on Brig specifically

[@sleepymoose453]

Brig caused Goats tho

[@lenkagiminesrefrigerator]

was a Reinhardt main during the brig goats meta. most of the game was just finding which bring was better. genuinly miserable. she forced the game into role lock.

[@JohnGlow2]

I just remembered that Support players were rejoicing that she hard countered dive comps and were abusing Brigitte to climb, to the point where Gold players the season prior were in masters the next just by one tricking her. They were so excited that she countered the meta that they refused to see that she countered EVERYONE, including tanks, other dps, and other supports. She was legit a 1 man army and the only one who ever had fun in those matches were the brig players. Poor Reinhardt players legit damn near dropped the game it was impossible to do your job when you could get cc’d to oblivion.

[@thestylemage2092]

0:27 I have a severe trust issue that one of the pictures shown has context not to be trusted...

[@drantino]

i knew brig was overtuned when she first came out, the fact i couldnt really pick any DPS to directly deal with her and she would still normally win those encounters. like reaper someone who works good at the range brig is optimal, needed to use his entire clip/mag(tbh the entire how its even "reloaded" makes naming this part weird) just to take out her shield on her release shield HP, not even including brig can swing and heal inbetween shots proloning that 1v1 longer in her favor. ...i still dont get why they will allow brig to have stun shieldbash even in a limited state of her ult and not even see if cass flash bag would be to opressive or not(its slowly getting to it with the micro changes they keep doing). those 2 stuns are not at all on the same level of strong, brig uses it in a defensive state and has more defensive tools, well cass is scales more vulnerable

[@trentgawd4292]

When a hero is released that’s so strong they had to add role restrictions so half their heroes see play, something’s wrong

[@BPViking]

Definitely. The real mistake though was how reluctant they were to nerf brig once they realised she was op. I’m not saying role lock was the wrong play but if they’d just been more decisive with their nerfs it may never have happened

[@TheBritishBitsEXTRA]

​@@BPVikingI think the strangest thing about it is while the notion that "they want to try to balance the character instead of making them useless" makes little sense when it's caused the game so much stagnation on all levels of play. Genji is nerfed into the ground because his ability set can be so powerful in higher levels of play that it has to be, yet Brig was dominating all levels of play.

[@eireprincess]

i remember when brig launched and people were climbing to ranks they never deserved immediately just by insta locking her

[@demigurlxd5781]

I have been a brig main since goats was in its prime. I never played her cause she was strong I played her cause I love playing paladins. But I will tell you the post goats time frame when she was hated was traumatizing I had never been flamed so much for picking my favorite charecter. But I still played her, and now I have embraced the hatred. I proudly main the most hated charecters in the game because the disabling playstyle has become my way to play. People wanted to be my fun police when all I wanted to do was play my pretty paladin. Now they have created a Dva Sombra Mei Brig Sym nightmare that is just waiting to stop your ults in thier tracks. And if you flame your team mate for thier charecter choice you bet I will be there to spawn camp you for yours... think twice before you flame some one you have no idea what you will create.

[@BPViking]

I generally think it’s better to just keep your negative thoughts to yourself. If you get annoyed at someone in your game that’s fine, but don’t start harassing them just because of who they want to play or if they make a mistake or whatever. It only hurts the both of you

[@marcilmp]

for first time reading this i can't connect Paladins(the game) with the fact you love playing Brig after 2nd time i finally understand what you mean :D

[@demigurlxd5781]

@@marcilmp not paladins the game, Paladins a holy magic welding knight with a sheild and mace

[@demigurlxd5781]

@@BPViking it really does just create a bigger problem cause if they are typing to respond then they are not shooting. Its worse then having a player who is under performing

[@Aran_MD]

Im sad the character "broke" the game (although I'd argue OW 1.0 was broken from the start) because I always liked brig, and her VA did an amazing job with her interpretation. I liked that she helped put a brake to dive heroes, but it was the equivalent of smashing the brakes suddenly and crashing spectacularly. I'm glad the team moved away from stuns, nobody likes that shit.

[@BPViking]

Yeah dive was a bit of a problem but unfortunately brig was just too crazy on release. Thankfully she’s fine now and the va can actually get credit for her work instead of getting slandered for something completely out of her control

[@Aisoreta]

I do feel like you missed out on talking about the OG goats comp, Doom Goats, AKA goats but with Doomfist, yes the meta known for killing DPS started with a DPS being important to the comp, go figure. 1 of the MANY reasons Bridgette was so strong was that she could take out anyone trying to get into the backlines fairly quickly, thanks to shield bash, her shield in general, and good damage, which helped her keep the other supports safe and kept the goats train rolling, and then Doomfist rears his head. He was a 1 shot king, killing anyone with 250 HP or less pretty easily and could ignore any form or shield/barrier, and so his goal during that meta was simple, get into the backlines, kill the healers quick, and get out to help the team with the tanks. and if he DID get hit with shield bash, he could still escape fairly quickly and could try again later. The comp was genuinely strong but after a while it was clear that the 3 healers comp was just a little bit better and took a lot less work than doom goats did since the comp sorta relied on the Doomfist being good enough to snuff out the healers and get out effectively.

[@BPViking]

That’s true, sorry I didn’t mention it

[@moerizk3753]

I can’t believe there was no role lock for as long as there was. OW needed role lock brig or no brig.

[@AliA-g3m]

As someone who didn’t play much during goats all I can say is wow. Also I’d like to see mercy’s history next or soon since she’s been one of the most popular characters.

[@BPViking]

I don’t think she’ll be next but she is around the top of the support list

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

There's a strong argument Mercy is The most popular character in Overwatch, surpassing Genji. Which is interesting looking at the "culture wars" stupidity, Mercy is one of those pinky cutesy characters who is very appealing for the mytical "modern audience", they love her (and they love Lifeweaver, the male swap version of Mercy). But sadly, there's also the scum who jerks off to cartoons, Mercy's popularity is a mix of these very special audiences

[@riptose9252]

I've always hated Brig since OW1. I'm mostly a deathmatch player, and back when competitive deathmatch was added to the game, everyone was using either Brig or Reaper

[@noontide1209]

the goats comp does still exist in some strange capacity. In open queue, you can play 4 tanks and one support. My group likes to use Rein, Hog, Mauga, Dva and some kind of mass healer like moira or mercy. We shot from bronze to plat in a week, it was nuts.

[@OkOkJoJo]

Goats-lite

[@therebelfrogy9287]

A heroes so terrifying she puches the game from being healthy to live support state for years And even now, Overwatch has not left the ICU

[@cake6851]

As a flex player role queue was my 9/11. I miss switching through any character on the fly. GOATS really killed the fun of overwatch. If only Overwatch 2 brig was in overwatch 1. Then the monstrosity of role queue wouldnt exist.

[@MrBlockparty57]

Overwatch 1 player here. Stop cappin. Brigitte was instantly recognized as op. The OWL wqs originally behind on patcges and that is the SINGLE reason goats didnt instantly take the meta there

[@thekingofawesomeness9173]

I cant help but feel like this video shows brig wasnt the problem as much as the comps around her were.

[@BPViking]

Yeah, I mean this is kind of true. At the end of the day brig was most problematic because of goats. Then again, if you look at her original stats and how she kept getting nerfed even after goats was gone, she was overpowered for a good while. Aside from goats (which brig was a prevalent factor in but not the sole one) I also feel like her entire kit simply countered dive too hard. She was designed to be good against dive sure, but she was way too strong against it. I think even if goats didn’t happen, people would still eventually have realised how broken brig was in some other comp. Although it may not have been as oppressive as goats

[@nathanblack-foster4006]

Dive is op due to mobility x short TTK forming a get in, get kills, get out comp. Mobility is king.

[@randalljolla]

Man I miss op Brig.

[@SocialExperiment232]

“Even tho people overreacted to the big shield it ended up being fine” lmao flats 😂 he made a video crying about how “the raid boss is back” and then the shield was fine lol those kinda creators cry about everything.

[@BPViking]

Lmao I love flats but that wasn’t his best take

[@mistake1197]

​@@BPViking he still sometimes rants about brig to this day.😂

[@PlatinumAltaria]

Brig wasn’t that bad at all, it was the OWL that did this.

[@Rena1XDFN]

As a brigg main this makes sense

[@TheOnlyD3NOK]

Brig is really a fun character to play Is the brig is nanoed "please hide"😪👍

[@brizzleyoh]

Let’s not forget that everytime Brigette shield bashed it stunned. That was so annoying 😅

[@nerdstorma8427]

Honestly, I liked Brig and I felt like she did her job in countering dive but bolstering brawl. She is too generalist, but I prefer her and Mauga to the recent ongoing onshot metas where Widow can one shot you from across the whole map without any contesting or engagement. Brig was strong, but fair. She could still be outplayed if you just played hard enough. Snipers just lock down the whole map and that's just unfun. I prefer GOATS meta that actually has coordination, participation and movement to maximize engagement and cover risks than Overwatch 2 where snipers just sit the back getting an inordinate amount of leverage for no participation.

[@emiyaann4688]

How tf brig was fair??even a drooling baby could get value from her,you ever wonder why people who were gold got grandmasters by just picking release brig?

[@rosemiramoreira82]

I'm gonna be honest I'd rather have played in ow1 with goats instead of ow2 brig

[@sk0l0pendrra]

Thank you for this vid, i re experienced my trauma

[@BPViking]

Happy to not help :)

[@adumbchicken8022]

me when some gold player can terrorize top500 just cause of 1 character

[@jm4050]

She's often considered as "game breaking", because she defines what a support should be, and why other supports (minus Lucio) dont seem as fun to play, especially with/against DPS. Instead of choosing whether to heal or damage someone, she does both at the same time (plus damage mitigation) so providing damage isn't preventing teammates from getting healed. This makes her and Lucio less of enablers (like Mercy and Lifeweaver), and less of Flex Supports (like everybody else). They try to make other characters provide that same input as well (Ana, Bap, Illari, Moira, Juno, Zen), but they are not as consistent, or team-centered as Brig or Lucio.

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

Not a stretch to say she killed the game, straight up. I wonder who will be the Brigitte of Marvel Rivals... maybe Ghost Rider if the devs makes him a tank who has one shot mechanics? Roadhog riding a bike, oh boy, you can see the smoke coming from here

[@cesar-mn5ts]

What? Who hates rien? The only people who hated rien was rien mains when he was unplayable😂😭

[@geert574]

orisa started the downfall

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

Naah, Sombra started. Then Doom, Orisa, Brigitte straight up killed the game, then here it comes Kiriko dancing on Overwatch grave. What a ugly downfall, Overwatch had potential to be a multimedia franchise, but the only byproduct was "porn" created by the fans

[@Omnicron800]

Tbh I’ve played the game since launch I’ve seen literally everything from shielded turret bastion, to six turret sym, hook 1.0, moth meta, double shield even nothing was more miserable more unfun and less skillful and more brainless than goats with brig on your team her numbers were so strong she could straight duel tanks relatively problem free and she literally justified role lock by just existing as a concept. She to me was the long long spiral downhill and the nail in the coffin for how blizzard tended to release heroes instead of adding more variation and flavor to the game in general each one was a reaction to the community asking for something different to be strong, Ana was a reaction to the sheer lack of burst healing sombra was because disruption and a silence was desperately needed at the time and brig was to just obliterate dive but the thing is when you make the skill floor just above mercy and create an entire character so strong it dominates the meta for like a year it kinda throws balance completely out of whack, brig is in my opinion genuinely the worst example of this style of balancing they were so insistent on at the time so glad she’s just eh no but man nothing ever felt worse mauga was the only similar feeling but even then compared to the release versions mauga is infinitely more counter able and much easier to counter at his strongest than brig ever was and i will die on that hill.

[@countercontrol122]

Ah yes the Azaan of Overwatch

[@BPViking]

Very sorry but I don’t know what or who that is

[@kiwi6726]

@@BPViking a paladins character that had a similar impact as brig or mauga, shaping the entire meta around his existence

[@BPViking]

Oh I see

[@fredmertz8191]

Now we're getting the moji experience

[@rachetmarvel931]

Azaan imo was worse,he had people getting 70% win rates in rank.

[@rexoverwatch]

if brig had 3 hit points, do you think she would have broke overwatch? there.. i just saved you all 15 minutes ♥

[@BPViking]

Big brain

[@rexoverwatch]

@@BPViking sorry to be so crass, it just drives me nuts when people enjoy waxing philisophical on balance like it's some philosphers stone that needs mountains of formulation. yeatle does a good vid about balance and brokenness and what we can derive from this is that the devs shape the metas,,, nothing is done by accident, since they can always just adjust the numbers with a flip of a switch

[@GINGI9519]

Still love brig ❤️

[@beansmckenzie9162]

Nice video i hated brig the game is most fun when the faster paced characters are good for me

[@BPViking]

Thanks, also yeah that’s fair enough

[@vividdaydream1516]

Brigitte wasn't the first support to break Overwatch. *Ana was.* Before Ana, supports had ZERO non-ult burst healing. The lack of burst heals allowed tanks to be tanky af and the genearal ttk (time to kill) across the roster to be on the slower, brawlier side; without anyone being straight-up immortal (not even if they had a pocket healer and/or multiple healers on them). Then Ana and her Biotic Grenade ruined all that. Her overloaded 'nade triggered a neverending cascade of unfun tank nerfs (bc bionade made tanks "too survivable") and general powercreep that's made combat so much faster, so much more _punishing_ that it's stopped being fun or accessible to new players. It's because of ANA that every support after her has "needed" to have some form of burst healing and/or immortaility, because the devs basically redesigned _the entire game_ around bionade's insane burst healing instead of nerfing/reworking the obviously game-breaking ability.

[@theerandomdude2375]

Became a brig main because of her history lol.. (herstory)

[@spencermcbride3881]

Oh, I remember. Day 1 overwatch player who really enjoyed the base game, but it basically got worse with every character blizzard added, and brig was the final straw.

[@derrickmatthews4215]

They literally could of just turned her into a dps and a lot of the crying woulda stopped

[@PatrickArcato]

I quit for a while during goats, Brig ruined the game just because the devs wanted strong women in the game. Damn politics

[@hillwoop9101]

I mean, they made JQ and she’s the most fun and balanced OW2 tank

[@PatrickArcato]

@@hillwoop9101 Good, but we're talking about Brigitte here, focus dude

[@fredmertz8191]

Surely this is satire

[@PatrickArcato]

@@fredmertz8191 They literally said it, were you even alive when Brig came out?

[@fredmertz8191]

@@PatrickArcato lol yes I was

[@koolaidsniffer]

Nowhere near as bad as sombra, people leaving the game because sombra

[@Ram-lo1ji]

No she was worse than sombra by a wide margin. Brig determined a whole comp scene and then got the role lock put in place. SHe could brawl reaper/mei etc, countered sombra and tracer hard, and could legitimately solo tanks. Sombra can absolutely ruin a players day and losing abilities is a bad feature, but she was never as game breaking as a support that was better than most dps.

[@koolaidsniffer]

@@Ram-lo1ji yeah that's true, I'm remembering the goat days now