The Hexacopter - Butter Smooth?

[@UAVfutures]

Tommy looks like such a cool guy, always chilled and an OG in the drone world.

[@pikometer8227]

gooooddaaaayyyyy, stu from uavfutures and toooodaaaaayyyyyy

[@brockwbe]

OG must mean no pink hair and eyeliner

[@Username_39894]

Drib come on man... I would've been pissed! you broke 2 frames (antiques to modern tech) and laughed about it. After getting ballzy with an underpowered hex. Tommy I feel for ya, good job keeping the composure. I hope Tommy has another pristine Hex or at least a blackout 250. For an analogy, that's like drifting a Ferrari F40 into a wall and then brushing it off like it isn't a big deal.

[@heimdall4148]

So true I thought it was a dick move to fly that thing like he did. Drew is becomming a little cocky..

[@___echo___]

I dont think the analogy works since one costs way less lol, but I get it they're rare and in this case has sentimental value I think its just the way drew flies, he just crashes everything, doesnt matter if its his or not

[@ZylonFPV]

Hmm, I feel like drew really didn’t respect Tommy’s property there.

[@johnnyboyfpv6065]

Hey Tommy, your not the first one to get thrown under the bus, only kill him for the frame damage, that thing's a classic!

[@marciocardenas9337]

i noticed that from the beginning of the video when he was throwing it around, he did it more than once.

[@IamBrian2]

LeDick

[@ZylonFPV]

Yeah I am guessing he was trying to be funny but he mostly came across as a bit of a dick 😛

[@tribefpv]

Tommy your the best pilot in the world mate. No one comes close 👊 drew is jealous , no disrespect drew but why deliberately reck someones retro drone?? All i can say is paybacks a bitch

[@rambleron5720]

Never let Drew fly ur stuff..

[@heimdall4148]

No let Kevin fly it. He would do super sketch stuff without crashing.

[@Nicholas666able]

Ramble Ron who cares let him and just buy more worth it

[@SuperPope69]

Low key crashes a lot of other peoples builds 😂

[@antdx316]

hahahaha

[@briancourtice2858]

Zack flew Tommy's Retro Hex conservatively, and made it look pretty good. Drew treated it with total disdain and and made both himself and the hex look bad.

[@Dot602t20]

Interesting Drew just didn't care about crashing someone's else's multirotor.

[@Sniperson2002]

He frequently gives off that "all about me" attitude. I tend to avoid that.

[@tekoppentekoppen761]

Of course. Me myself and I.

[@alexoliver9201]

Yeah you could tell that Tommy’s Hex had sentimental value and drew didn’t care a less. He doesn’t have the same vibe as the original Rotor Riot Guys. First time i saw him on the channel he kept flying his quad into peoples legs. I bet no one in RR really likes him....

[@Sniperson2002]

@@alexoliver9201 He is the main reason I don't tune into the rotor riot episodes much anymore. I miss Finalglideaus being in the mix. He gave a good mellow to the balance of the crew.

[@adyfparish]

Are you kidding guys? It's all scripted and done for fun. It's the Top Gear of drone flying.

[@darkling6]

Yeah... Don't let Drew fly anything you want to keep

[@thomascee]

Why didn't you showcase the history Tommy? You are one of the OGs in this space. Love seeing the old flight characteristics of that old stuff. The prop wash and wiggle was epic. PWM? Priceless lol!

[@blackmennewstyle]

I'm a simple man, i see a "Blackout" frame, i smash that like button instantly! Le Drib intentionally crashed Tommy's hexacopter, jealousy is real lol

[@msmolly3082]

Never let idiots fly your pride and joy.

[@maxiemusfpv198]

Poor tomy, his. Blackout, it like ledrib took tommys grandma for a drive and crashes twice!

[@JustForFunRC]

Lesson learned: never let Drew fly your quad.

[@Nicholas666able]

JustForFun RC drew can fly the shit out of my drones any day of the week don’t care I’ll just buy more

[@noladroneworxllc3115]

Roto Riot Production value has grown. I can feel your pain Tommy. And y’all are some of he best pilots around. Keep flying the good flight.

[@trfpvVT]

Lol Joshua coming out of the bushes in the intro

[@maxiemusfpv198]

T R my mom doesnt want me watching JB nos because she thinks hes a predator

[@tanmay______]

My video started buffering right at that moment.. had to watch his face for 20 extra seconds bruh😂

[@trfpvVT]

@@maxiemusfpv198 lol

[@patrickm5790]

Yo, longest intro ever. 30 seconds!!

[@framed166]

I dont think he'll ever really admit it but tommy's pissed!

[@NURKFPV]

What happened with the audio on the studio section? pretty brutal. Get some panels!

[@paulterl4563]

yep!...

[@MrMarcosyMrsLaura]

So true! I’d lower the fps and add a filter to that scenes

[@nimben80]

They should of used clip on lapel mics. That would have gotten rid of a lot of the echo. Shotgun mics don't do to good in warehouse scenarios. Great video though.

[@MactacFPV]

A more directional mic will help too. Or not having the mic close to a surface. Drew, I can help with this stuff, I run a studio & can give you some ideas/tips on how to sort out the sound.

[@crashbuilds]

What's a 'panel'?

[@Deploracle]

That was tough to watch. A knife edge between two concrete silos? Drew's lucky Tommy is a nice guy.

[@DonaldReynoldsII]

You guys are having way too much fun...!!! hexacopter here I come!!

[@flowrfpv]

Dk why drew has to screw up everything so quickly, dinosaur old hexacopter and 1st thing to do : inverted yaw spin, well, that wasn't very smart... same thing when he tested wooden propellers, they last like 2 minutes :P

[@jackdaniels7913]

Love my 6" titl hex from armattan they also made a 4" hex frame just in case your interested.

[@Joshuah2012]

“Watch us wreck Tommy’s good memories of the good old days, when pwm was the way to go”

[@bob8086]

That frame is Amazing! Coolest looking frame ever made imo. Pissed they kept crashing

[@MikeLaRock88]

Cool drone, but I break enough props already..

[@-daigher-2549]

Lul, buying that shit is equal to a 50% increase in broken props, too much for my wallet

[@platty9237]

Lol good point

[@nimben80]

I have the old Thorax from Hobbyking which was pretty light, but if you crashed your screwed. Always carry a couple extra frames.lol Oh use some wireless lapel mics when your in the warehouse. Shotgun mics don't do to well in large enclosed areas like warehouses, etc. But a great video guys, I hate putting lapel mics on everyone its a pain in my neck.lol I been doing post and movies and short films for 30 years.It's hard work and a lot people don't realize it. I liked how you guys put new quip on a classic hex, it makes me want to do the same with my Thorax. lol Great video guys,

[@snoopyRC]

Tabajia has this ability to say, "You're an ass." without using words. That look he gave him.

[@dem0n1k]

OG Tommy! Nice 'antiques'' ! hahah. Hit me up if you need some replacement Blackout bits ;)

[@highducky420]

do you still have replacement parts for blackout parts

[@smith040296]

I love “oddball” drones.

[@grumpyjohntxredneckrc6346]

I LOVE MY YUNEEC-Typhoon-H For That Reason! LOL

[@kydawg1684]

Love these episodes where you guys huck the old tech. I would LOVE to see you guys all get some old tech and each of you fly them hard to try and create your style of Freestyle Video and show us the results.

[@moochasas]

I still have (& fly) my mini H blackout.... and I have a super fast mini hex which was suppose to be for aerial filming but with some mods its one of my most stable copters...... and its super fun to fly...... still old school with idle up which was hooked up before Air Mode came along....... great to see the old antiques (the copter not the guys flying here!) up and away.. always wanted a BO hex but couldnt justify the $$... thanks for the trip down memory lane....... and if you design one.. you must make and sell them. like a limited addition.... great work...

[@dividingbyzerofpv6748]

Love the chase footage. Part of the reason I built the CheaterKwad was to hopefully learn how to do an upright to inverted chase of something. Maybe even do a forwards to backwards transition from chasing to being chased.

[@MorningView]

awesome! three drone chase footage at the end is hella worth waiting for.

[@Tr3xShad]

1k likes reach already, we're awaiting the new design

[@SmallsFPV]

Just get the Flywoo HEXplorer 🤙

[@jackdaniels7913]

You guys need to do a set up video for a hex with a flight controller! there's little to no videos about wiring and set up out here for the hex ! ! !

[@DavidOwensuk]

Great video - Drew “crash Camden!!! Poor Tommy! But seriously... I loved the flying, and the retro stuff, and it was great to see you all having fun! Thanks for sharing!

[@RCDevotee]

Glad I kept my Blackout Spider frame!

[@midwestsp3]

I own them all and they are on my wall. :)

[@itachiuchiha-yn9fl]

74 dislikes..... There all because of Drew's ignorance with other ppls stuff🤣

[@c4pt1n54no]

Micro motor warehouse used to have a hex frame for 7mm (tiny whoop) motors. Same problem though, the only micro FC with 6 motor channels was pre-f1 chip, and the 60k+ Kv "insane" motors didn't exist yet. I'd LOVE a modern 2inch or even smaller hex.

[@yannickg6904]

There's the Tomoquads Evo-H, look it up. It's available in 2in and 2.5in. Quattrovolante also makes one. tomoquads.miiduu.com/evo-h-hexacopter-race-frame-with-black-cf-top-plate www.quattrovolante.com/Fabry/product/quex2-frame/ I've been fighting with myself to resist buying one, or both.

[@michaelmatthews6421]

I like the new intro!!! And holy crap that upgrade!!! Sorry bout the hex Tommy, the look on your face every time, priceless! I would like to see y'all build 2" and 3" hex builds

[@jackdaniels7913]

I'm still running my 6" tilt HEX from Armattan! Love that thing!!!

[@butcher]

If I want to build something like this what fc should I get? Can I use betaflight maybe?

[@derfacecrafter1869]

@@butcher this Video make me build one. I use the kiss fc v2. At the Moment im waiting for Motors and esc I cant wait to fly it. Look in ca 2 month in my channel, then you will See it. But dont Think i can fly as good as the from Rotor riot. Im happy when it fly more then 5 minutes.

[@butcher]

@@derfacecrafter1869 Hahh nice, since then I built an 5inch hexa! :) Check it out: rotorbuilds.com/build/21909

[@kwadwadfpv2386]

Forgot to mention Armattan still offers a very nice hex frame! I have a Kingkong x300 hex that just never flew right and I just gave up on it. The toy grade MJX X600 hex is fun to fly and has insane pitch for a toy when you bind it to a Jumper! Love hexacopters, please bring it back so I can rip one of those!!

[@c4pt1n54no]

My smoothest fpv setup to date was an F550 frame clone with 9inch DJI props and the first Chinese f4 board i could get my hands on. Only lasted three packs before ripping two arms off the central PCB but those were the most magnificent rips. **not for confined spaces**

[@jstagzsr]

its so funny that in the drone world, just a few years ago is considered "back in the day" because of how relatively new drones are. And whats great is that in that small amount of time the tech has gone skyrocketing upwards in every way.. Efficiency, speed, FC tech, ESC tech, motor tech, radio tech, rx tech.. everything is getting SOOOOO awesome in such a short period of time... In 10 years imagine where we'll be.. kids in 10 years just getting into drones are gonna be watching some youtuber talk about how ":back in the day" in 2020 people were flying using 4 motors and 6s batteries. and they only did around 100mph.. hahaha

[@air-headedaviator1805]

Its just like with fly-by-wire. The development for such flight controllers litigated the need for more responsible aerodynamics, allowing the flight envelope to increase dramatically for unstable craft.

[@bumbleboltfpv3707]

LOVE The New Intro! Also, nicely planned and edited show. One of my favorites so far. Also, Tommy, you know better than to hand Drew something you don't want broken lol.

[@Chillasaurus-Rex]

A_Nub is on to something with that 2 inch hex idea.

[@Chillasaurus-Rex]

@@plainuser48596 Might have been tried before but brushless micros have taken a huge leap in literally the last 3-6 months alone. Way better parts (F4 flight controllers, 32 bit ESCs and tons of motor options) and way more parts to choose from these days than before too.

[@charlessampson6389]

I built a 3" hex a year ago. 1407 motors, F4 FC, micro cam, etc, all modern stuff... the performance characteristics are pretty awesome (and it sounds amazing). the hex is a lot more planted in the corners than any quad ive flown, it changes directions on a dime and tracks really stably, but its very sensitive to weight. with 1000mah 4S packs it rips, but even high quality packs start sagging pretty badly after about 1:00min of flight time. the extra weight of a bigger pack really degrades the performance in the air, so finding a good battery was really the limiting factor for me. I raced it a couple times during last years indoor season, but keeping it in the air for 2+ minutes was tough. there are also some weird behaviors that you get on a hex when you start encountering prop damage. Unlike a quad, the hex can stay airborne with a badly damaged (or even entirely missing) prop, but you can get yaw-spin-to-the-moon scenarios out of nowhere because the FC is trying to keep the quad level on different numbers of CW/CCW motors. This can happen after a simple branch/gate strike and its pretty sketchy.

[@RcReviewsLt]

2" hex will weight to much, 3" will have power and joy. also just add Split v2 mini for hD =) some motor/props protectors, and you have stable micro quad =)

[@jamesordwayultralightpilot]

Hexx

[@djDTOUR]

We need a 2" tricopter. Where's David?!

[@dividingbyzerofpv6748]

I like this. More of what was missed and where we came from. Still have my Naze32 2015 era Nighthawks and their Blheli and SimonK ESCs in the garage.

[@nadamotion]

Haven’t even seen this yet but this was the first copter I bought & built. It’s huge by today’s standards but it is one sexy beast. I think I might have to make it ready for next summer.

[@im_ricebowl]

Tommy is da man! i respect you dude!

[@BiffFPV]

Drew, you “Biffed it”?.... accurate.

[@ZenithFPV]

This was really fun to watch. Keep doing these type of videos guys!

[@MadMarcWinnipeg]

So that's the blackout quad I keep hearing about. That's some sick follow footage! Thanx for posting. Marc :)

[@SplashFPV]

Black-out rules! Man I loved these thing. The real OG

[@scottdurham7745]

Dang you Drew! Crashing that classic! Lol! Great episode guys!

[@KittFPV]

9:21 It's Cameraman Josh!! :D The Blackout Mini Spider Hex is and has always been my dream multirotor ever since I started flying with a Mini H. I would LOVE to see a 2" hex though!! Poor GoPro lens at the end haha

[@johnnyboyfpv6065]

The guy from Micro Motor Warehouse made 2" hexacopters like 2 and 1/2 years ago. I would go look at that stuff to get an idea, cause those things flew really well for their time period. He beat 5"in stability! Don't know how he did it, but it was awesome! How does drew not know about PWM?! He's gotta be acting for the camera cause ppm was a life saver back in the day! Did baseflight ever get to ppm? I stopped using it as soon as cleanflight came out.

[@8ballfpv]

benedict did indeed... kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3irqIypqbl3fM0

[@bryandebruyn4410]

Nice to see some history back in the air. Gotta hit Drew T for crashing that hexa blackout. Got a hexa too. Kriegerpus with some modern gear on it. Flies great and even in the parking it flew great like on rails. Kriegerpus getting an overhaul with some latest gear.

[@FireDFPV]

It was bottom mount hex. Plus GoPro at the bottom. Feeling "heavy" cause of that?

[@c4pt1n54no]

Blackout, now thats a freakin' blast from the past!

[@sloanv2610]

I really wish there were more hex options. They seem very cool!

[@MagicFPV]

Tommy is a legend! That is all

[@yen1761]

wow..i feel like new in this hobby when i see this video.

[@gameovr8266]

Sometimes is good to have old school back in our lives

[@austntexan]

People flew the mini-hex because we were trying to replicate the power of a 400mm 8” propped quad. At the time people were only flying 1806 powered minis, they still didn’t have the punch of a 400mm quad slung with 2216/1200KV on 3300mah 4S. A hex, powered with 1806 was getting close to the power of a QAV400, ADS400Q or QX-9 which was what most pilots flew at the time. Go back and look at Juz70s videos. . . that’s a great history of multis all in one spot. I think he’s even got his old Hoverthings videos on there as well.

[@TheFpc20]

Love it, awesome episode guys

[@billalvarez6699]

I think Tommy did help me setting up my hex back in the day..

[@Reman1975]

I've had a few "Oddballs" over the years (Couple Y6's, A few tricopters, Several Hex's, And a feckin' ridiculous 5" X8 that I built for a laugh) and have to say that my hex's were really good for relaxed freestyle flying. I'm more into freestyle than racing, So I tend to under spec the motors a little on non gimbal carrying hex's. It's just so they're not pulling crazy amps and I can run the same smaller/lighter packs I use for my quads. At the minute I've only got one 5" hex, But it usually gets strapped on my backpack when I'm out with a few 5" and 3" quads for a mess about. It's a nice relaxing frame to fly at the end of a day, But as you said, It can be quite a floaty multirotor without active braking. A 2 or 3" hex could be interesting.

[@RanHam]

I still have my blackout hex. Have hardly any fly time on it. Its setup for 3s. Maybe I should bust it back out

[@Chrisbalma3]

Tommy was hella nervous when drew flew the drone. He new the crash was coming 🤣

[@mikachoice3411]

Ive still have a Brand New Blackout Spider Hex in its original packaging and was planning to kit it out with modern kit.

[@chubz2189]

Poor Tommy, everyone always crashing just why man why lol I would so love to hang out with Tommy and the rest of the group they seem so chill and fun.

[@FilipRadelic]

Woah this thing flies amazing!

[@David__]

Great to see some more OG BlackOut action. Inspired to get my old BlackOuts out for a spin :) Tommy, remind me not to loan any of my classic machines to Drew!

[@marlit0fpv325]

Y'all latee!!! Been on this train since day 1. The only thing the hex lacks is maneuverability, besides that a solid bird. Loose a prop or motor? Can still fly home.

[@protofpv]

I would love to see some modern hex designs. I know someone working on a 3 and 4 inch. a 2 inch pocket hex would be bad ass.

[@luisfilipemachado17]

I cant wait for this new frame!!!!

[@James-hn6hl]

It looked so floaty....definitely will be looking for that new frame. What is the size of the current or original frame?

[@adyfparish]

That was a great episode! So much so that l had to write " That was a great episode! "

[@lezedits]

Shoot with your mirrorless and DSLR in 24P guys, it looks so much crispier, the colour science is better and its way more buttery all round!

[@charleswhitten3623]

All I have to say is, bad-freakin-ass. All three of you guys flying together, AWESOME !!

[@xItzEpicDx]

You guys should build a modern Freestyle Hexacopter, and see what you can do with it!

[@mojokeeper8603]

Tommy has the coolest kwads,great video 👊🏼

[@wodifpv644]

I have one of these. Love flying it. Mine was 6s. I still have it but need to update the hardware

[@wodifpv644]

mixer hex6x cmix 1 1 -0.500 0.866 1.000 cmix 2 1 -0.500 -0.866 1.000 cmix 3 1 0.500 0.866 -1.000 cmix 4 1 0.500 -0.866 -1.000 cmix 5 1 -1.000 0.000 -1.000 cmix 6 1 1.000 0.000 1.000

[@wodifpv644]

Or these cmix 1 1 -0.42 1.00 0.9 cmix 2 1 -0.58 -0.93 0.89 cmix 3 1 0.42 1.00 -0.9 cmix 4 1 0.58 -0.93 -0.89 cmix 5 1 -1 0 -1 cmix 6 1 1 0 1

[@wodifpv644]

Those came from here: www.modelbouwforum.nl/threads/blackout-mini-spider-hexa-mini-bouwverslag-naze32-howto.203889/page-13

[@mrph678]

you guys crack me up! you've just cheered my day right up :)

[@jlarson42]

I'd love to see a 2" hexacopter. Thanks Tommy for sharing yours, it' sweet. :)

[@domzyorgon]

My first drone was a hexacopter. Argonaut 370mm frame, 1806 2000kv motors, 20a escs... Still bummed that I sold it :/ Upgraded it also to a br2205, flew good for a first drone, but the thing was a battery killer.

[@g36pilot92]

Tommy, thanks for sacrificing your vintage gear for our education. :)

[@kwadwadfpv2386]

Look to a guy named Neil Fraser on KZbin, he is pretty much the hexacopter guru, and has some pretty cool Hex racers!

[@shredrfpv9290]

anyone remember the Flyduspider? Had a buddy who had one of those circa 2015 and it was badass

[@Nicholas666able]

I love these guys I watch every episode and I’ll buy them I’m newer and want them all

[@airplanefood6121]

Would and Optic mount in front of the Go Pro help with spacial awareness to figure out where the copter could go?

[@Hyperious_in_the_air]

I'd love to build one again with new parts. What's the frame?

[@7passu]

Poor Tommy lol Drew doesn't even feel bad and he is like I cant just fly normal without doing stuff haha

[@Timsfpvshow]

cool video guys. it sux that yall smashed tommys old hex tho

[@Burbsi]

i still fly blackout to this day. own 2 quads and the spider hex. Would be cool to know what happened to blackoutthedrunk

[@elibowers9539]

I’m here for it‼️

[@jasonstahl73]

Resurrect the HEX!! I have a 5" Kriegerpus and used to have a Blackout Clone (RD290). The RD290 frame has a broken arm and the top/bottom plates are broken, but I want to rebuild it. I have an F7 board and PDB to do it with, just need the frame and other bits. RD290 Hex and FT Dragonfly kit were some of my first drones, 'cause quads are just too common. I'd like to make a 6" 6S Hex

[@nothingnew69]

For what I'm evolving into as a type of pilot this is dead on what I need to look into more. My smooth shots matter the most.

[@yannickg6904]

The Armattan Mini Hex v2 is my favorite hexacopter ever. With the new 1407 motors available, I'd build a new one.

[@derrogers]

would have been nice to see how much latest betaflight ( 3.2.x was when they ditched f1 mcus ) would have done for the rig, before swapping all components out...

[@MrSmokeyd86]

I'm dipping into every video..... To get a new video....

[@joshuaboyden8247]

Would love to see a modern design and a micro hopefully something soon awesome video I really enjoy learning about the history of the hobby