The Hidden Backstory Between Sentinel Prime And Quintessa In The Transformers Movies Explained!

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The Fire Brothers

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Hey guys the Fire Brothers here and today we are going to be looking at a theory that has been speculated in the community for a very long time, that is the secret connection between Sentinel Prime and Quintessa two of our main villains for two different movies. These two had very similar goals and have a connection by virtue of just being Primes, so needless to say there has been quite a bit of speculation about wheater or not Sentinel was brainwashed by Quintessa or if he knew about her and the plan to destroy Unicron. There are a lot of unknowns since the movie doesn't really elaborate much on this point, for this video, I will be taking a look at the evidence and taking a look at whether or not believe this theory makes sense and if there is some validity to it. The weird part is that this is one of those theories that fit so well that the chances of it being true or at least likely are ridiculously high. In this video, we will be exploring in-depth the connection between the two to see if any exists in the first place. So without further ado sit back, and relax as we take a look at Sentinel Prime's greatest secret in the Transformers movies and his connection with Quintessa!
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@Akiba_Arts
@Akiba_Arts 2 жыл бұрын
All I'm hearing is Sentinel Prime is the BIGGEST SIMP in Transformers History
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
He is simping for Cybertron
@Akiba_Arts
@Akiba_Arts 2 жыл бұрын
@@thefirebrothers3739 You're sure he's not Simping for Primus? 😝
@RufflesOnCoke
@RufflesOnCoke 2 жыл бұрын
@@Akiba_Arts well technically they're the same thing
@Anthony_Ender
@Anthony_Ender 2 жыл бұрын
True
@senateurpalpatine
@senateurpalpatine Жыл бұрын
@@Akiba_Arts Show respect. Sentinel Prime was the most powerful leader for Cybertron.
@novustalks7525
@novustalks7525 2 жыл бұрын
Sentinel was just grunting when he died but yeah there is a suspicious similarity between his and quintessa's plan. But I believe all of the movie villains were intended to be connected with trying to kill unicron but it was just badly communicated to the audience
@K1ng_Squ1dZ
@K1ng_Squ1dZ 2 жыл бұрын
Sentinel prime gives of count dooku vibes idk why
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe, cause you can sort of see him as not entirely evil...(or at least evil for the sake of evil)
@naywingalaxyanimatord2106
@naywingalaxyanimatord2106 2 жыл бұрын
I always wonder what there backstory is in DOTM but thankfully you made a video about this
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
Surprisingly enough aside from 2 videos in Spanish, no one really talks about this one
@BrianMarrino236
@BrianMarrino236 2 жыл бұрын
It's a shame that Leonard Nimoy passed away. He was the best as Spock from the Star Trek Franchise. He was also most perfect for Sentinel Prime being the bad guy
@Spacezilla2000
@Spacezilla2000 2 жыл бұрын
Going on with this theory I think i might know how Megatron found out about Quintesa, when KSI was making Megatrons new body (Galvatron) they were using both Sentinal and Megatrons body and Brains said that he had to use both of their brains to make the body and we know that Megatrons was still functioning but mabye while they were doing that Megatron was scanning through all of Sentinals thoughts and memories and maybe while he was doing that he found out about Quintesa and how she and Sentinal had that conversation to destroy the earth and that made him curious to meat her
@Ryder-a-Blaze
@Ryder-a-Blaze 2 жыл бұрын
Sentinel Prime? More like Sentinel Crime!
@WildFireGaming7
@WildFireGaming7 2 жыл бұрын
I see this as only a theory cause I HIGHLY doubt Michael Bay thought about this stuff that far in advance. Now for your own head canon I like the idea but I feel it kinda messes with the idea of Sentinel being his own bot and wanting to restore Cybertron out of his own belief and ambition.
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
He can still want that and just collaborate with Megatron and Quintessa. Also yes this is just a theory and head canon cause Michael Bay can't be bother to make interesting lore
@novustalks7525
@novustalks7525 2 жыл бұрын
Lorenzo did say all of the movies are supposed to tie into tlk and well this does explain that
@WildFireGaming7
@WildFireGaming7 2 жыл бұрын
@@novustalks7525 who’s Lorenzo? And where could I confirm that? Also even if this Lorenzo wanted it to tie in like that. It’s clear they just tried to do that with each film ignoring previous material. Especially in AOE. Kinda like the Star Wars sequels
@novustalks7525
@novustalks7525 2 жыл бұрын
@@WildFireGaming7 lorenzo di bonaventura the main guy behind the movies. He's a producer. He kept saying tlk would explain past movies. Obviously it didn't lol. Incase you didn't know tlk was the start of a cinematic universe but it was eventually cancelled
@WildFireGaming7
@WildFireGaming7 2 жыл бұрын
@@novustalks7525 oh dang. Could I look anything up on what else wanted to be done with that cinematic universe? Cause I’d love to read more.
@BrianMarrino236
@BrianMarrino236 2 жыл бұрын
Sentinel's main concern war the survival of Cybertron, his homeworld, and the Autobots. He was more than willing to do anything to keep it alive, even betray himself and his side for going that far
@NurseAmamiya
@NurseAmamiya 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see Sentinel Prime in future live action films again. But if he will be having another future live action debut, I'd want his appearance taking resemblance with his dotm design, but with his character and personality, taken from the Animated Sentinel Prime.
@The_Double_U
@The_Double_U 2 жыл бұрын
This is something I hope The Rise of Unicron Fan Film will address, even if Sentinel doesn't show up. I can assume, maybe they did.
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
Same, but I wouldn't get my hopes up
@Soundwave413
@Soundwave413 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I have a frustrated relationship in the movies, so much potential that is just never taken advantage of, and of course plot-holes My guess is that quintessa is the bayverse equivalent of Quintess prime since they have a somewhat similar appearance, and have similar ablities as I think he had a stone that grants life, creating the Quintisions
@ignitedmotion5807
@ignitedmotion5807 2 жыл бұрын
megatron being the third wheel fits perfectly with all these movies. Just a badguy that's hanging around
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
Quintessa wants Megatron to do her bidding, Megatron wants sentinel to do his bidding and Sentinel wants Quintessa to do his bidding. Scary close to a love triangle...
@ignitedmotion5807
@ignitedmotion5807 2 жыл бұрын
still better than our society at least their honest about what their into
@Achieme
@Achieme 2 жыл бұрын
I believe that theory could be a possibility, but I also think that quintessa told Sentinel half of the truth, or half of her plan, because if she told him he would have reacted differently because if quintessa would have told Sentinel about Unicron then Unicron would have passed that message around or at least gave hints that earth is more than meets the eye.
@nemesishere3281
@nemesishere3281 2 жыл бұрын
I got something. What if the fallen didn’t want megatron to know abt other primes bc megatron wants power and megatron would find a way to kill the fallen but the fallen didn’t want megatron searching for other primes to kill him
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds a bit too convoluted but it's not out of the posibilities
@BrianMarrino236
@BrianMarrino236 2 жыл бұрын
A reason, that I believe for myself, why Sentinel Prime didn't kill Optimus Prime was because of the fact that he foresaw Optimus' death in Revenge of the Fallen by the hands of Megatron and he won't see that happen again. He would rather leave him alive
@davidemanuelarroyoportacio9499
@davidemanuelarroyoportacio9499 Жыл бұрын
he let him leave if he ever wanted to join him
@bumblebee6090
@bumblebee6090 2 жыл бұрын
My brighter can't be here today because he's trying to wipe out the timeline
@Scythe289
@Scythe289 2 жыл бұрын
fire brothers it's been an honor watching your videos
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot man
@Scythe289
@Scythe289 2 жыл бұрын
@@thefirebrothers3739 no problem bro
@bumblebee6090
@bumblebee6090 2 жыл бұрын
My brother can't have beer here today because Beast Wars Megatron tried to kill him
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
"Can't have beer here" lol I need to use that someday
@planetjason001
@planetjason001 2 жыл бұрын
I have a theory that’s interesting as well, with the events of DOTM going the way they did and how it led to AOE. Could it be possible that unicron played a part in why the humans would hunt the transformers all of a sudden? Think about it, Unicron has the citizens of his mortal enemy living on him and he hasn’t figured out how to terminate them, so why not use his spawns aka humans, to do his dirty work?
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think so. But I do think you are onto something I think it makes more sense that the Decepticons used pretenders to infiltrate the government and cause mass chaos across the world.
@novustalks7525
@novustalks7525 2 жыл бұрын
@@thefirebrothers3739 don't forget that was literally the plot of the ww2 tf movie
@e.d.h.kendrick673
@e.d.h.kendrick673 Жыл бұрын
I bet Sentinel tried to warm Optimus about Quintessa and Lockdown's wrath if he killed him, but was too late. Sentinel: *NO OPTIMUS!!!* (DEAD) Because of his betrayal, Cemetery Wind must have feared the Autobots would do the same and decided to team up with Lockdown to destroy them all.
@simonlin9192
@simonlin9192 11 ай бұрын
@@e.d.h.kendrick673 i hope humanity gets destroyed
@SheezyB
@SheezyB 10 ай бұрын
The decepticons tricked Sam into thinking that Alice woman from rotf was an actual college student
@Mike-mf3ed
@Mike-mf3ed 2 жыл бұрын
We need TF6. More than ever, although it’s likely it’ll never happen…
@DIKINBAUS69420
@DIKINBAUS69420 2 жыл бұрын
I had a theory that quintessa wasn’t a prime like what the nights refer to her as the great deceiver as she was folling prime into thinking that she was a prime but wasn’t
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
I would agree but she is ridiculously powerful and Megatron refers to her as one. So there is a lot of room for devate
@DIKINBAUS69420
@DIKINBAUS69420 2 жыл бұрын
@@thefirebrothers3739 true
@sparkswipe3549
@sparkswipe3549 2 жыл бұрын
What Quintessa said " OUR WORLDS ARE IN DANGER" 🤣, but this video does make sense though
@novustalks7525
@novustalks7525 2 жыл бұрын
She didn't say that but I can imagine it 🤣
@Ryder-a-Blaze
@Ryder-a-Blaze 2 жыл бұрын
I still hate him for killing Ironhide
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like that's everyone in a nutshell
@edwardgomez5616
@edwardgomez5616 2 жыл бұрын
Ironhide had to die, he was actually the one who posed the most danger to Sentinel and Megatron. I remember that in the comics that Ironhide bested Megatron and also destroyed a small planet. Ironhide could have destroyed all of Megatron and Sentinel's plans from the beginning. Ironhide was also the most seasoned warrior, weapons specialist, Prime's best friend and bodyguard, plus he took down Demolisher bu himself. Also, Ironhide was the only Autobot that Sentinel wouldn't face in a fight, so he was shot in the back. Sentinel took on Nest, Prime, and everyone else face to face, but Sentinel wouldn't dare ever face Ironhide at all until Ironhide was already down. If you look at Dotm when Sentinel is revived he only looks at Ironhide, and he looked at him twice. Sentinel was ready to kick ass until he noticed Ironhide on the scene. He'll, Ironhide has kicked everyone's tail, even Megatron, and the only bot to ever smack Prime on the head, tell Prime what to do and get positive results without Prime wanting to kick ass. So, I do believe that a part of the plan between Sentinel and Megatron was to kill Ironhide without a fight, but it was unspoken of in the film. However, everything I said makes sense if you think about it all. Ironhide could have destroyed Sentinel after destroying the Dreads if he Ironhide knew of the plan, he could have even destroyed the main pillar, and even perhaps destroyed Cybertron whe it got close to Earth. It all makes sense to me.
@NurseAmamiya
@NurseAmamiya 2 жыл бұрын
Still salty about that? It's been a decade now lmao (yeah, I'm a huge Sentinel Prime fan, so I may be biased)
@edwardgomez5616
@edwardgomez5616 2 жыл бұрын
@@NurseAmamiya no. I was explaining how and why things went down the way they did. I guess you can't see the obvious.
@hammurabilapa815
@hammurabilapa815 Жыл бұрын
Good to see a fellow AQW Player and a Transformer content creator/fan
@wafagdplqs4421
@wafagdplqs4421 2 жыл бұрын
I think your theory fit pretty well to Sentinel Prime's character and could be true !
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot man
@blueraccoon1088
@blueraccoon1088 2 жыл бұрын
Plot twist:sentinel and quintessa aren't in a professional relationship
@blueraccoon1088
@blueraccoon1088 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just teasing 😜 you guys just s joke
@mikeydavid4500
@mikeydavid4500 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought that there was a connection between Sentinel Prime and Quintessa, I mean Sentinel wanted to use the resources to restore cybertron, possibly destroy the Earth, and inslave mankind. And out of all the planets in the cosmos, Sentinel Prime goes to the pale blue dot. Then I thought that maybe just maybe, Sentinel Prime KNEW THAT EARTH WAS UNICRON ALL ALONG! So when Sentinel Prime failed Quintessa tried to just go straight for the kill of Earth. So that she could make a new race of transformers which I think was going to be a technorganic world. Which is why we saw some art for Optimus Primal for TLK. But unfortunately Optimus Primal was cut from the movie and now we have to wait for ROTB in 2023
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
ROTB won't be connected to TLK, its basically a separate universe
@mikeydavid4500
@mikeydavid4500 2 жыл бұрын
I know I was saying that Optimus Primal was cut from the Bayverse but will appear in ROTB which is the sequel to the Bumblebee movie which I know its own universe (or reboot)
@aimlesshat6113
@aimlesshat6113 Жыл бұрын
You should do a video about what if sentinel never betrayed the Autobots that would be interesting
@cybernite60z98
@cybernite60z98 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if Michael Bay said "oh yeah he was controlled the whole time u just couldnt see the red because sentinel is red"
@soularprimestudios5930
@soularprimestudios5930 2 жыл бұрын
Lol not gonna lie I like this theory alot and it would explain a hell of a lot.
@marty7194
@marty7194 2 жыл бұрын
There could definitely be a connection and I always thought that lockdown was not sent by Quintessa, just the way he talks about them. Doesn't fit really to me
@_somestuff
@_somestuff 2 жыл бұрын
Imo, Quintessa being a Prime is utter nonsense. Neither is she a creator. She lied, otherwise the knights wouldn't refer to her as a deceiver. Then again, this is TLK which can't even be consistent with itself (Quintessa's a horrible character anyway).
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with all of that, but her being a creator is true since she literally created the knights and Optimus. So its not like she lies about everything
@novustalks7525
@novustalks7525 2 жыл бұрын
She's a fascinating character with unexplored potential
@MrSerenata7
@MrSerenata7 2 жыл бұрын
Keep up Fire Brother 😎 🔥 Wow now we know about the back story 👌👏👏👏😉
@bmuisc3142
@bmuisc3142 2 жыл бұрын
I think that Quintessa is an imposter because if u remember when in TF5 the Knights were going to kill Optimus they say that she was an imposter. I think she wanted the staff from the creators and that she kills the creators like what the fallen did with the 7 primes and the matrix. so that is why the Knight took the staff. I that she wanted Optimus to get the staff and use her power of manipulation because he was a knight and knew how they think. I think she wanted lockdown to go and get him but wanted to see that everything was the same that is why in TF4 lockdown said the creators and not the creator I can see how sentinel and Quintessa were working together. thanks
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
I can see that being true but despite being a deceiver, she is not a liar. She said she created the knights and Optimus so that much is true, while she may lie and stuff she isn't a complete liar.
@bmuisc3142
@bmuisc3142 2 жыл бұрын
@@thefirebrothers3739 yeah bro u are right
@bmuisc3142
@bmuisc3142 2 жыл бұрын
@@thefirebrothers3739 yeah bro u are right
@disneyknightspadilla1406
@disneyknightspadilla1406 Жыл бұрын
incase someday if they do another sequel i want a backstory where sentinel did have a connection to quintessa. which was why he betrayed his own kind while his last attempt was to warn Optimus about unicron. sooner or later optimus and sentinal would forgive each other .
@superfelipestudios8104
@superfelipestudios8104 2 жыл бұрын
This is the first time that I am ever been early in to a fire brothers video
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
Hello there
@RiceBoy1975
@RiceBoy1975 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion sentinel didn’t deserve to die: his on,y intention was to return cbytron. He even spared Optimus who was powerful enough to to go 1v1 with prime. Barely a villain spare a power person who’s a threat to them. As humans we destroy other wild life to help out self selve so I can’t see a different with sentinel plan
@donkeykong6426
@donkeykong6426 2 жыл бұрын
i think sentinel became part of quintessas idea somewhat between the events of 2007 for the beginning and revenge of the fallen
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like its more likely they both meet before Sentinel went missing on the moon
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, it has been a very stressful week and I couldn't work much on videos since my dad is still not feeling well. so thank you all for continuing to support me and being patient with me while I get my things sorted out. I'm working on more videos in the background at the moment and I'll release them when they are ready, for now if there is any type of video you want me to do or start making for the future, let me know! P.S Hey guys, I played TF the game with Comodin Cam so check it out if you want to have a good time lol(SQUEAKER IS HERE TOO) kzbin.info/www/bejne/b6qVfImqh55pn8U&ab_channel=ComodinCamGaming
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
@Anthony Dub Uhm, no. That sounds long and painful to make
@bumblebee6090
@bumblebee6090 2 жыл бұрын
@@thefirebrothers3739 what if Beast Machines Transformers was good please make that what if video if you have time
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
@@bumblebee6090 Now that is a bit more interesting, I could do a wasted potential video for it
@bumblebee6090
@bumblebee6090 2 жыл бұрын
@@thefirebrothers3739 have you watch all the Jurassic Park movies
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
@@bumblebee6090 No
@morganmeza
@morganmeza 2 жыл бұрын
I mean maybe that’s why sentinel prime is red and in concept art he’s grey🤨
@Mr.Illuminaughty
@Mr.Illuminaughty 2 жыл бұрын
I was listening to the theories and I thought I was going insane until I turned the volume up and realized that the Gambit soundtrack for Destiny 2 was playing in the background lol.
@bumblebee6090
@bumblebee6090 2 жыл бұрын
What you think of the unused bumblebee concept art from the 2007 Transformers movie
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
Its ok but I prefer the one we ended up having
@bumblebee6090
@bumblebee6090 2 жыл бұрын
@@thefirebrothers3739 I don't like the age of Extinction designs
@WiiUFan-jj3is
@WiiUFan-jj3is 2 жыл бұрын
Man hearing about Sentinel Prime’s story and all that jazz I wish the Bayverse got the Snyder cut treatment
@Normandu
@Normandu 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, that is great idea! Snyder cut in by the way my fauvorite movie
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
There might be enough for a Synder cut type of thing but it will never be made into a movie
@rainbowracer9576
@rainbowracer9576 2 жыл бұрын
What a great theory 😄💖🌟
@ThatBigGeek
@ThatBigGeek 2 жыл бұрын
this is a great theory, it fits in perfectly
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man
@alexallen9640
@alexallen9640 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting theory 🙂👍
@omegamaximus1727
@omegamaximus1727 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with Theory it makes the world of the Transformers Bayverse more Interesting.
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
I put more effort into the story than Michael Bay ever did
@blaykecoleman6343
@blaykecoleman6343 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are the best
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot man
@freddyandfoxy7526
@freddyandfoxy7526 2 жыл бұрын
This seems interesting. I will be paying attention
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
As far as I'm aware I'm the first one to talk about this subject in the English community. I think.
@ronaldjansky9671
@ronaldjansky9671 2 жыл бұрын
I just realize something, it was never said that in bayverse is Primus. Only unicron. And we are comparing this universe with other, so what if Queentessa is like Primus? also if your theory would be shown in rise of the unicron movie, it would be amazing
@spiderbro9134
@spiderbro9134 Жыл бұрын
9:08 fitting title for her role in the movie. and for real life
@johnsmith-ko7wd
@johnsmith-ko7wd 2 жыл бұрын
how can megatrons head still function at ksi if he didnt have a spark?
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
Michael Bay didn't thought about it and he just wanted Megatron back so its just plot convinience
@blueraccoon1088
@blueraccoon1088 2 жыл бұрын
Squeaker: my waifu dumped me Zuko: that's rough buddy
@legendarystudioclips6018
@legendarystudioclips6018 2 жыл бұрын
“Idk!! This person didn’t specify!”
@harrishyatt6283
@harrishyatt6283 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder what tlk would like if sentinel prime's name was mentioned by optimus prime, megatron, and quintessa, I hope optimus prime, megatron, and quintessa say sentinel prime's name in rou
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
They showed the ark but didn't mentioned Sentinel's very similar plan to Quintessas so you would figure he would get some kinda reference in the movie
@harrishyatt6283
@harrishyatt6283 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, also wondered what tlk would look like if sentinel prime's head was seen but megatron was holding cause what would he have said to sentinel prime while holding his head
@shreyaspanguluri637
@shreyaspanguluri637 2 жыл бұрын
Idea: A video about the cancelled Operation: Skyfire film
@darthazgorath9570
@darthazgorath9570 Жыл бұрын
Those 2 places under Sentinel's eyes are a slightly different color to the rest of his face, looking far closer to dark energon, and it looked like it vanished once his helmet was ripped off and Optimus was about to kill him. If I'm looking at it correctly, sentiment could have been under the effects of dark energon. There is also a similar red spot on Megatronus' (the fallen) forehead, though I'm not sure. My guess is that Megatronus went to Earth originally building the sun harvester to reawaken Unicron until the other 12 primes showed up to stop him, somewhere near the end of the battle, Quintesa put her mark on him convincing him to attempt to reawaken primus instead. This is the plan we see him attempt in revenge of the fallen, however the other 12 stopped him before he could do so, then died protecting the matrix, something that the fallen would have either seen or at least felt leading him to believe they had all died. As no prime after this had the matrix, and he thought his sister was dead "all the primes are dead" makes more sense. Then when he wakes up, even though he thinks she is dead, he still desires to do what she had ordered, reawaken primus. During the time between the sealing of the fallen and Megatron leaving for earth, Sentiment found Quintesa who seduced him into attempting to bring the world together to make primus wake up to end the war that cost her brothers their lives. Sentinel, covered in dark energon, goes back and relay's this to Alpha Tryon or some other leaders who think he is crazy, this is when he goes to Megatron and that plan is hatched. This is how Megatron knows of "the creator" but doesn't know exactly who she is. This is also probably how he learns of the fallen. So when sentinel fails to show up, Megatron still seeks to finish the plan on Sentinels warning and joins the fallen to do just that. This also explains his hatred of humans, it's because he knows they are spawn of Unicron. I think this wall of text fixes the timeline quite well. Tell me what you think, and thanks for reading. God bless.
@CHASEPRODUCTIONS18
@CHASEPRODUCTIONS18 Жыл бұрын
You should make a playlist for all the vids the other guy is in
@e.d.h.kendrick673
@e.d.h.kendrick673 Жыл бұрын
Bet Sentinel tried to warm Optimus about Quintessa and Lockdown's wrath if he killed him, but was too late. Sentinel: *NO OPTIMUS!!!* (DEAD)
@daredevileditz5312
@daredevileditz5312 Жыл бұрын
Is there any connection between the fallen and Quintessa???
@davidpap5369
@davidpap5369 2 жыл бұрын
I want to see something TF related that ties up the movies like the IDW comics.
@harrishyatt6283
@harrishyatt6283 2 жыл бұрын
i wonder what aoe would been like if optimus prime and galvatron mentioned sentinel prime's name
@ernie9538
@ernie9538 Жыл бұрын
Total Kaos
@rickalonso1502
@rickalonso1502 2 жыл бұрын
Sentinel was the einstein of the transformers ofcourse he knew
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like that's Wheeljack
@rickalonso1502
@rickalonso1502 2 жыл бұрын
@@thefirebrothers3739 yes but in dotm the woman agent meara i believe called him the einstein of the transformers when he was brought back to life when they talked about his pillars
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
@@rickalonso1502 True enough lol
@harrishyatt6283
@harrishyatt6283 Жыл бұрын
I'll be doing a what if sentinel prime was a protagonist video soon
@Wing-Zero-si1eu
@Wing-Zero-si1eu Ай бұрын
It would been better for The Last Knight, that Quintessa was the reason Sentinel sided with the Decepticons in the first place. Meaning what they did to Chicago, that forced Humans to hunt down all Transformers, with Lockdown helping as a mercenary, was all on her. Sentinel wasn’t all evil as her, The Fallen, & Megatron. Just misunderstood of peace & freedom is all about. Optimus was the one who reminded him of what it means, before going for the head.
@skeletonmagnus8997
@skeletonmagnus8997 Жыл бұрын
0:31 I had already seen the Spanish video before xD
@BrianMarrino236
@BrianMarrino236 2 жыл бұрын
0:43 What's this scene from? I first saw it on Total Drama Islands lifetimes ago
@soularprimestudios5930
@soularprimestudios5930 2 жыл бұрын
I like this theory
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man
@soularprimestudios5930
@soularprimestudios5930 Жыл бұрын
@@thefirebrothers3739 In transformers 2 the Fallen appeared to be weakened when he was on life support I have a crazy theory. What if the Fallen actually wanted Megatron to get the Allspark so it could be used to restore back the power he had when he fought his brothers? What if the Fallen was kept for latter films and kept scheming in the background collecting his power patiently waiting to strike would he team up with Quintessa after he senses Unicron starting to awaken he always hated Earth this gives him another reason to drain its life.
@thandalex9000
@thandalex9000 2 жыл бұрын
This is cool
@Skywarpandthundercrackerfanboy
@Skywarpandthundercrackerfanboy 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting and could make sense
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
It makes sense, its just the timeline that is hard to pin down
@Skywarpandthundercrackerfanboy
@Skywarpandthundercrackerfanboy 2 жыл бұрын
@@thefirebrothers3739 i agree
@Onyx-ej4cj
@Onyx-ej4cj 2 жыл бұрын
I know this was unrelated but did you know in jurassic world dominion barricades vehicle mode is in the intro
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
No, cause I don't watch those movies lol
@godzillaraiden4203
@godzillaraiden4203 3 ай бұрын
I wonder if this means Quintessa is the Bayverse version of Quintus Prime? She can create life, Quintus can create life via the Ember Stone. Maybe Originally there were eight Primes but Quintessa was plotting something evil against the other primes. This may have caused the 7 to fight against her and the 12 Guardian Knights. Then the Seven Primes convince the Knights that Quintessa is tricking them and that their not evil. Idk how my theory would fit considering the Bayverse has a lot of loose ends
@CountryTunic524
@CountryTunic524 2 жыл бұрын
my brother couldn't be here today because he is trying to find a line line where cliff jumper doesn't die
@r0n1nemp1re4
@r0n1nemp1re4 Жыл бұрын
Sentinel prime is secretly the prime of war
@BrodyW2012
@BrodyW2012 2 жыл бұрын
My brother couldn't be here today because he has infiltrated Paramount to get the Rise of the Beasts trailer
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
Lol may he come back alive
@BrianMarrino236
@BrianMarrino236 2 жыл бұрын
12:59 It depends on who's the Many and who's the Few
@thierrychun80
@thierrychun80 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do how yugioh characters and super senti monsters and anime characters in dotm and rotf and how they got in Chicago and eyept
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
That's so random? also I didn't really understand the question
@thierrychun80
@thierrychun80 2 жыл бұрын
@@thefirebrothers3739 I know your the best
@novustalks7525
@novustalks7525 2 жыл бұрын
@@thierrychun80?
@thierrychun80
@thierrychun80 2 жыл бұрын
@@novustalks7525 ya
@novustalks7525
@novustalks7525 2 жыл бұрын
@@thierrychun80 what?
@pitter5497
@pitter5497 2 жыл бұрын
he's crying because he was replaced with Comodin Cam
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
Lol accurate
@nosfonader8792
@nosfonader8792 Жыл бұрын
With thr reboot of the nee Beast Wars movie, all this doesnt matter now... The idea of earth being Unicron should have been a huge twist. Too bad the Bayverse was all about action instead of world building and lore leading inti this. It would also help explain why Megatron and the Deceptacons warring on earth senselessly. Unicron is earth 😮, the great enemy of Cybertron 😮. They could have gone anywhere else to remake Cybertron but earth being a dormant Unicron just works for this. Megatron realizing the truth and Optimus denying it sounds like a great dynamic that should have been explored more.
@BrianMarrino236
@BrianMarrino236 2 жыл бұрын
You wanna know why Sentinel Prime killed Ironhide? It's because of the fact that Megatron order him to do so ever since the Dark Of The Moon Game where Ironhide shot Megatron with his Heavy Iron 2 during Level 6. Don't believe me? Look up the game again
@blueraccoon1088
@blueraccoon1088 2 жыл бұрын
12:59-13:06 That's A call back to spock from star trek
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
I know but still proves my point
@blueraccoon1088
@blueraccoon1088 2 жыл бұрын
Hey fire I was watching some transformers deleted scenes and in first movie there's one that was cut after the Xboxbot and trust me if you post it it'll get flaged for the wrong idea
@aliciabrisco1053
@aliciabrisco1053 6 күн бұрын
I think Sentinel was working for Quintessa because how would he know if Cybertron was dying because he’s in a spaceship and Optimus and ratchet save him so I think Megatron in the fall and never knew about this but I think Megatron knew about this when it was and when it was age of extinction when he got a new body from Quintessa, so I think he tried to do a whole Gilly bubble thingso he tried to do the same thing with sentinel, but he failed also this is actually a great theory fire
@aratrumiurs653
@aratrumiurs653 2 жыл бұрын
My brother was Crying Because Sideways Got Killed By DesGhidorah/ Death Ghidorah From Rebirth of Mothra 1
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to pretend like I understood the reference
@ntinosaggelopoulos6718
@ntinosaggelopoulos6718 2 жыл бұрын
Sentinal price he was Desperate to save cybertron and for that he made i deal with the quintessons
@dragonlegacy2938
@dragonlegacy2938 Жыл бұрын
What if quintessa Is the mother of the ancient primes?(the fallen and Brothers)
@highfiveguyproductions
@highfiveguyproductions 2 жыл бұрын
Quitesa is solid prime renamed
@Fortnitecat224
@Fortnitecat224 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still here
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
Hello there
@Fortnitecat224
@Fortnitecat224 2 жыл бұрын
@@thefirebrothers3739 General Kenobi
@gabrieleichelmann4712
@gabrieleichelmann4712 2 жыл бұрын
So that means If is so, that sentinel Prime in DARK of the Moon in the final Battle tried to tell Optimus Prime more such as about Planet earth that Unicron is Planet earth but Like Optimus Prime is in the movie he didn't want to hear any more because he was so mad at what he did and then well Headshot 👉😵 sorry mhm good theory. Sorry i am not so good in Englisch i am a German Guy 😅
@FingerboardPengu
@FingerboardPengu 2 жыл бұрын
I wish sentinel came back
@Someguyfromtheinternet36
@Someguyfromtheinternet36 Жыл бұрын
His brother was crying because he was untangling TLK and AOE's lore
@wb9729
@wb9729 2 жыл бұрын
His bro is crying because quintessa was in disguise as his anime wife and she slapped him and broke up with him.
@theslenderman3707
@theslenderman3707 Жыл бұрын
Trans explained similar of what you are talking about and he said that quintessa is not a prime
@bentonmeredith4744
@bentonmeredith4744 Жыл бұрын
Wait there is one problem this theory, sentinel and Megatron were working together before sentinel primes ship even crashed on the moon!
@Seba_Prime
@Seba_Prime 2 жыл бұрын
He was crying because he saw the end of the World becaus he can se the future
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
lol DBZ abridge style
@ren_suzugamori1427
@ren_suzugamori1427 2 жыл бұрын
He's crying because Scathach doesn't love him.
@Future_Edits2.0
@Future_Edits2.0 Жыл бұрын
Soo you are a fan Transformers Stop motion
@harrishyatt6283
@harrishyatt6283 Жыл бұрын
quintessa and the fallen wanted to destroy earth to reborn cybertron
@daviondenson6472
@daviondenson6472 2 жыл бұрын
He crying about Screen time
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
Lol probably
@eddycastro.aristeguieta8036
@eddycastro.aristeguieta8036 Жыл бұрын
I just watched dark of the moon and that’s what I’m saying
@senateurpalpatine
@senateurpalpatine Жыл бұрын
False theory, Sentinel Prime fought the quintessons, and saw his brother-in-arm Prima die. Sentinel serves no one but himself, it would be stupid for him to stoop to Quintessa.
@tnrteam4980
@tnrteam4980 2 жыл бұрын
interesting
@thefirebrothers3739
@thefirebrothers3739 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@tnrteam4980
@tnrteam4980 2 жыл бұрын
@@thefirebrothers3739 could make sense
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