The Hidden Prequel That Fixes SLOTLT?!

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[@SplashSurfer216]

It’s also worth noting, how vague TFC’s line “Ryan told me everything” is. It could not only mean about how Thomas worked hard to prevent Sailor John from stealing the treasure, but also explaining how he tried to prevent an accident he caused with the dynamite.

[@BriceGum138]

If only people in the fandom aren't so annoyingly stubborn to figure that through their head or get a reality check because I'm so sick of people kicking on something that's obviously a dead horse at this point. "tHoMaS gEtTiNg pUnIsHeD tHrEe tImEs iN tHe SaMe mOvIe iZ nAt fAiR!!11!!1 aLl tHrEe oF tHoZe tHiNgZ aRe bEyAnD TaMiZ'es KaNTrOl!!1!" It's like these people are so blind and oblivious, it looks to me that they either assumed otherwise without watching the movie or even reconsidered their thoughts. I was wrong to believe the third incident wasn't entirely Thomas' fault because I should have remembered about that line where Thomas apologizes to Ryan about the dynamite incident. That's like saying Topham bricking Henry up in the tunnel is unjustified, even though the reason for it was because Henry was being selfish about his appearance, not because he did nothing to deserve getting walled up. I find it really ironic or even hypocritical (or a complete double standard) how people in the fandom refuse to believe in any of those dipshit journalists that make up those false claims on "The Sad Story of Henry" for clickbait sake, yet they act like them whenever The Fat Controller told Thomas off on all three incidents that Thomas not only did to himself because of his arrogance and lack of honesty, but because he put the first incident onto Gordon as well. This needs to stop for all I care. Railway Sparrow made his point clear already and no one else has ever heard of a reality check.

[@chesapeakedproductions3009]

One thing I love that the fandom did was the Trainz site Sodor Workshops, which has a downloadable freeware model of a what-if Geoffrey, which is based on Thomas's description of Geoffrey. Honestly, if the fandom can do that, I can't believe all of those who complain or nitpick about Sir Topham and Thomas's attitude haven't just fixed their satisfactions by creating their own version of a prequel of SLOTLT

[@TankEngine75]

They even made Geoffrey an ROD 2-8-0, The ROD 2-8-0s are some of my favourite real locomotives so I appreciate what they did with Geoffrey

[@australianacexpert449]

Me personally, I want a lost treasure prequel to be the episode Goodbye, Fat Controller, The 2nd last episode of season 19. See, in my version of the *entire* CGI series (Yes, I want to rewrite the whole CGI Thomas era), The episode Goodbye, Fat Controller would instead be Topham not planning to leave Sodor, but rather retire, which this time actually turns out to be true, with him making plans. And sorry to say, Thomas' attitude in this movie would be more suited to The Adventure Begins, where he is just as cheeky as in his debut. The real #1 Thomas movie. That way, Thomas' attitude won't have to be exaggerated like it was here, Making Topham come of as more cruel, Ala Dr. Eggman in tails' story (Sonic Adventure) And the movie itself can play out with its own 3 strikes, but after it's found out that STH refused to accept that Thomas saved everyone, things come to a boiling point because he not only let Gordon get away with teasing Thomas, but credited Rocky for discovering the pirate ship where there's no logical way a crane like him could have. For all these actions, Topham is given the boot before he can complete his retirement plans. And Gordon? In my Henry gets the Express rewrite, Gordon gets the Express taken away as punishment for his behaviour.

[@lachlantheGWRengine]

It sure sucks Geoffrey's not a real character

[@lachlantheGWRengine]

@@TankEngine75 No, he's a Great Central Railway Class 8K

[@TankEngine75]

@@lachlantheGWRengine Same thing, just with a different name

[@CocoCoast]

I think Thomas and The Fat Controller act naturally. Sir Topham Hatt acts like an actual authority figure. And Thomas is mostly cheeky so this fits their classic personalities.

[@whitewolf8051]

I mean, if you stop looking at the fat hat as a character, and start looking at him like he's the controller, his actions are mostly justified

[@eliotreader8220]

@@whitewolf8051 also the damage done to Thomas and the express coaches would cost a fair bit of the Fat controller's money to repair and of course the ruined rails and sleepers would need to be replaced too so that didn't help matters either. so I can see way the controller of the NWR would be in a bad mood about it all. because of the trouble he caused I think Thomas's number one being covered up by dirt is a fitting punishment

[@IloveRio-fp1vg]

@@eliotreader8220 He's always in a bad mood.

[@IloveRio-fp1vg]

@@eliotreader8220 Thomas also deserved the bad coal from earlier.

[@user-zm2or2ct9t]

@@IloveRio-fp1vg That because Sir Topham Hatt was a big jerk to Thomas for yelling at him that’s why!

[@lukechristmas3951]

I never really had an issue with the characters of Thomas and Sir Topham Hatt. I merely thought the writers did that on purpose as an Easter egg to what they were like back in Season 1. Even Ryan's character was acceptable. Of course, I never noticed until now how Who's Geoffrey? ties into the plot of SLOTLT! Brilliant explanation!

[@The_Autistic_Prime]

Mate Thomas’ character is a cheeky prick, he’s not out of character he’s more in character then he’s ever been since the books!

[@IloveRio-fp1vg]

I thought you hated him!

[@MainLineEngine112]

A relief to see someone actually acknowledge that the dynamite incident *was* ultimately Thomas’ fault. What I think makes Thomas’ character arc from S19 into LOTLT even better is how we got TAB right before S19, to give us the full bookend to bookend story arc. I love Thomas and Topham’s characterizations in this movie. Finally I can take Topham seriously for one thing. Thomas is maybe a little more childish than I’d like him to be but that also comes down to his voice, especially in the US. For the most part, the dialogue itself captures him really well. His flaws are on full display and I’m here for it. The one thing I will say though is I honestly don’t think Ryan was meant to be a “villain,” or even a legitimate antagonist. Overconfident and dismissive is literally exactly how Thomas acts in this movie, and he’s not a villain. He surely would have been less of a nice character, but I don’t think there’s anything to suggest he’d be any more antagonistic than like, Diesel in Misty Island Rescue or something kinda like that. Being overconfident in a way that causes problems, but not being malicious in any way. But even then, I’m glad they didn’t go with that. The fact that Thomas is unjustified in his dislike of Ryan works in the movies favor in my opinion and I’m glad they went with what they did for him.

[@railwaysparrow]

I Agree, I remembered hearing that Ryan's wooden railway box said he knew sailor john? But I couldn't find out if that was true.

[@eliotreader8220]

@@railwaysparrow I can understand way Thomas was worried about being replaced by Ryan on his branch line. this fear is possibly because Ryan is more modern and perhaps a bit stronger than he is

[@matthewsoares9880]

The dynamite incident was not Thomas' fault. He saved everyone.

[@MainLineEngine112]

@@matthewsoares9880 But the dynamite only was lit to begin with because Thomas let Ryan take the bad coal purely out of spite. He obviously didn’t anticipate Ryan’s sparks to light an explosive, but he knew the coal would be painful for Ryan, since he’d experienced it himself. He could and should have warned Ryan, but chose not to out of pure pettiness. It’s more indirect than his first two accidents but his actions still led to disaster.

[@matthewsoares9880]

@@MainLineEngine112 He actually forget to tell him about it.

[@ThomasFan2002]

Good to see a good explanation of this subject. I was always someone who really liked their characters in SLOTLT, and this video confirmed my opinion. Surprised to have found some other cool things as well as you mentioned, like Thomas constantly looking away. Again, a very well in-depth analysis of my favourite Thomas movie, good job!

[@cinnamonmantrainsareawesom7224]

I wonder if sodors legend of the lost treasure was based on a scrapped railway series book that wilbert wanted to tell but couldn’t

[@BriceGum138]

The fact you brought up "Who's Geoffrey?" as a prequel episode to the 2015 movie from your video to begin with makes a lot of sense in one way or another and I am still glad you made the video and I appreciate the research and effort you put into the video from 2022.

[@TheKingClass]

The movie was great and this really explains way Thomas and Sir Topham Hatt acted like that. Great explanation! Also like how you brought up “Who’s Jeffery?”

[@rmsteutonic3686]

In sir topham hatts defence, if I saw one of my engines chasing another engine with a train of dynamite, I’d be pretty livid

[@IloveRio-fp1vg]

Even if they were trying to save them?

[@inakigonalez4240]

let's remember that Thomas IS SUPPOSED to be arrogant, that was his character in the RWS

[@wyattm6782]

Fun Fact: In SLOTLT When The Arisdale Car If You Hear Really Closely You Can Hear S1-2 Brake Sounds.

[@eslm-studios2996]

I’m glad someone has put a deeper nose dive into this. The fact that so many people despise this film purely because of the Fat Controller’s treatment towards Thomas is honestly petty and I feel like they don’t know the personalities. *not saying they don’t, but that’s just how I feel* The thing about SLOTLT is that Thomas and the Fat Controller are actually in character here. For so long, the Fat Controller was portrayed as the stereotypical funny fat man. To see him act authoritarian again felt so real and true to his character. After all, it’s this personality that was introduced to us all the way back in 1945 when he shut up Henry in the tunnel then let him back out again, or when he moved Thomas to Edward’s station to learn how to deal with trucks. And the fact that most of the fandom rejected this portrayal in the film is kinda as saddening as how Percy went through a character arc of being brave in TOTB only to regress back into his cowardly nature in the next season. But back to the point, that’s an interesting idea. Who’s Geoffrey and SLOTLT definitely share similarities as you pointed out. In fact, back in 2015 when I first watched it after SLOTLT, I was a little confused to why Thomas decided to tell a lie after his growth in the film, until it was revealed that SLOTLT takes place after Season 19 and the Great Race. After that statement, it all made sense, especially as Season 20 backed this up with the Ryan & Daisy episodes and the Arlesdale Trilogy.

[@cinnamonmantrainsareawesom7224]

I wonder if slotlt was based on a railway series book that never got published

[@dannypalin9583]

I think I lost count of the fanfics where Thomas decides to run away because of mean old Fat Hatt shouting at him.

[@eslm-studios2996]

@@dannypalin9583 I know one popular one which was called 'Thomas Leaves Sodor', and being honest, it's not a good fanfic. But yeah, that's really telling how fans reacted to the dynamite incident, and being honest, it's rather childish. The Fat Controller may not have had the whole details, but it was entirely Thomas' fault for not warning Ryan about the bad coal. He had put Ryan and so many others at risk from that. However, credit where credit is due. Thomas was brave with stopping the dynamite and if the construction vehicles had told the Fat Controller exactly what happened, perhaps he could have been less harsh. But it still wouldn't change the fact that Thomas was indeed at fault for what happened, and people can blame everything on the Fat Controller, Gordon or anybody else for it, it all points back to Thomas.

[@cinnamonmantrainsareawesom7224]

@@dannypalin9583 I think I remember 2

[@terencewilliammckenna6121]

Plus, James becoming more cocky and mischievous, but still kind-hearted

[@RickVG02]

All I can say is: You're a fricking genius.

[@matthewsoares9880]

So since "Who's Geoffrey?" ia a prequel to "Sodor's Legend of the Lost Treasure", then Sir Topham hatt should have reminded Thomas about that time he blamed Geoffrey.

[@dannypalin9583]

I've stood by this take on the movie since 2015. "Never Overlook a Little Engine", while a cool song, doesn't belong in SLOTLT. I never saw any circumstance where Thomas was put down because of being little. Everything that goes wrong in the movie is on Thomas. He nearly caused a head-on collision with Toby while racing Bertie. He gloated that he could get away with anything because he was the number one engine. People were late for work or important matters, such as hospital visits, because Thomas not only slept in, but decided to fool around with Gordon's coaches. And then, when a pile-up was caused, and trains were delayed until it could be cleared and the tracks declared safe, what does Thomas do? Say it was Gordon's fault. Then Emily's. Then Toby's. Thomas proceeds to complain to the small engines that Gordon caused his banishment to the Construction Yard. It's never his fault. He loses valuable building supplies by rushing in and not listening to warnings. He deliberately neglects to tell Ryan about bad coal when Ryan's handling explosives. He may have saved everyone, but it doesn't change the fact that he put everyone in danger. And yet people insist that the Fat Controller is being aggressive and nasty. If you lost valuable supplies and money because an employee's acting the fool, you'd act just the same. This movie was about Thomas learning to get over himself and get his act together.

[@IloveRio-fp1vg]

Nobody cares if Thomas saved anybody from the dynamite. He doomed everybody.

[@IloveRio-fp1vg]

You hate Thomas in the movie!

[@IloveRio-fp1vg]

You thought TFC was going easy on Thomas.

[@joshuaW5621]

At this point these people who hate this movie and Topham getting annoyed with Thomas aren’t real Thomas fans.

[@Killdane]

Thomas destories over a thousand dollars on coaches The Fandom tOPhAM IS ToO rUDe honestly, I 100% agree

[@dannypalin9583]

If you were a manager, and you lost money because you lost valuable supplies because an employee was being stupid, you'd react in the same way. But, yes. These people are upset because mean old Fatty is actually being a figure of discipline instead of a dopey goon.

[@N00N01]

Brenner, he was our genious HERO , we all needed , got and lost

[@TankEngine97]

I didn't really like the fact Topham is way too hard on Thomas when I watched lost treasure for the first, but after watching this it's definitely changed my opinion. Thomas really messed up and Topham had every right to be cross with him, especially when Thomas lies.

[@cinnamonmantrainsareawesom7224]

You know what I think would be good character growth for thomas

[@arry5432]

@@cinnamonmantrainsareawesom7224 they never grow tbh, they make the same mistakes over and over again despite "having learnt their lessons"

[@cinnamonmantrainsareawesom7224]

@@arry5432 ain’t that the truth

[@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967]

@@arry5432 At least the characters remains who they are and we like them for that.

[@erical6338]

@@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967 I like Thomas, but only classic Thomas. I choose to remember the cheeky, smiling but able to make other faces tank engine I grew up with. Models> what TTTE became.

[@jackcollins707]

I swear this was floating around on the Wiki for ages so I was expecting whos Geoffrey in the end 🤣 great video man :), I think Thomas and fat man are in their classic era prime-personalities in this film it’s wonderful

[@Trojan073]

And it’s not just Stanley in the great discovery too. In every era this occurs. There’s Arthur whom he literally causes an accident. There is also partially the railway series with Stepney taking an important train I believe.

[@jlstudios69]

Funny how some Geoffrey character that doesn't even exsist fixes the whole movie, while hit era characters who get tons of merchandise and marketing have no impact to any of the story at all! (I'm exaggerating of course, really great video!)

[@steamzilla95]

If Who’s Geoffrey was part of the movie, not only this would make SLOTLT a lot longer but the fandom wouldn’t be so picky.

[@bladeobrian2144]

Very nice theory! Honestly, my guess for why Thomas and Fatty acted the way they do in SLOLT, is because the writers decided to be a bit more Railway Series accurate. In the RWS (and the seasons that adapted it), Thomas could be kind of a prick at times, and Fatty was usually much more stern and less lenient. Also, nothing against Ryan, he’s a good character and I definitely like him, but his role in SLOLT could’ve easily been filled by Stanley.

[@ryhi5]

Ryan and Stanley both have the same problem. They both feel like plot devices instead of characters. Just somebody to make Thomas jealous. At least Ryan got his personality fleshed out in a future episode while Stanley remained a complete blank slate

[@bladeobrian2144]

@@ryhi5 yeah they do feel like plot devices, but good ones nonetheless. I recently went back and watched Great Discovery for probably the first time in a decade (I’ll be 28 this year, I was 14 when it was new) and it was honestly better than I remember. Thomas and Stanley eventually coming to one another’s aid at the end was definitely a heartwarming moment.

[@Roperational_YT]

“It’s one of or maybe the best movie.” Hero of the Rails: *Am I a joke to you?*

[@stepneydr_n.5561]

Hero of the rails is a good Thomas movie but not the Best absolutely.

[@keldeostudies149]

Well i think its fine the way thomas acts because hes always been a cheeky doshbag in the rws. The same could be said for topham as he knows any accident or mishap gives the railway a bad reputation

[@IloveRio-fp1vg]

And Thomas blaming others for his mistakes was also in character for him.

[@DodotheNickelodeonFanboy]

Who’s Geoffrey? Is an underrated episode.

[@Taupea5]

For those who complain they never saw the sad story of henry

[@joshuaW5621]

Those fake fans who complain about Topham in this movie remind me of MostAmazingTop10.

[@joshuaW5621]

Those winey kids who complain about Topham in this movie remind me of MostAmazingTop10.

[@WillCWilson]

I was thinking Sir Topham Hatt didn't know about the bad coal, and in his car, only saw Thomas pushing the dynamite cars, and nothing else, and from his point of view, it looked like Thomas was fighting with Ryan in a dangerous way, and that may have been why he got so angry. And about the incident where he fell into the hole, I thought he really was telling what he thought was the truth to Sir Topham Hatt. The narrator said that Thomas did hear the men shouting, but he misinterpreted it as them being happy to see him and not as them trying to stop him, so technically, Thomas wasn't really LYING, he was telling Sir Topham Hatt his perspective of things, even if it wasn't how events really played out.

[@IloveRio-fp1vg]

His point of view is more important than anyone else's!

[@parkertitle1923]

It’s funny how Thomas has tired to lie and/or stretch the truth, constantly in the past. If he said, “I didn’t hear them.” or “I couldn’t tell what they were saying.” He might’ve been able to get leniency, as this is a genuine excuse, and Thomas actually did mishear them.

[@muni_Thomas_boi]

I can't believe it's been seven years since Sodor legend of the Lost treasure was created makes me feel old

[@joshuaW5621]

Too bad there are still people hating on Topham even after this video came out.

[@andydoms2001]

God, 2015 feels like a lifetime ago. The 70th anniversary was phenomenal!!!! I was 13 and in middle school then, now eight years later in 2023 I’m finishing my 3rd year of college and gonna turn 22 later this year. Time is insane!!!

[@joshuaW5621]

The fact that people are still upset with Topham today and making hate art of him is embarrassing.

[@phineas3704]

For half of the movie Thomas Has his Number 1 scraped off as he feels he isn't the number 1 engine anymore but at the end of the chase scene it comes back probably because he Is Truly Number 1 again

[@IloveRio-fp1vg]

Symbolism.

[@phineas3704]

@@IloveRio-fp1vg Nah bro thanks for reminding me of this comment

[@IloveRio-fp1vg]

@@phineas3704 Nah?

[@T.N.M.-2005.]

Very good and interesting theory I'll admit I never thought of it that way

[@callum110597]

Amazing theory. I kind of thought "Who's Geoffrey?" is kind of a link to Sodor's Legend of the Lost Treasure as well...even though I am not really a fan of "Who's Geoffrey?". But either way, it does make sense, if you consider "Who's Geoffrey?" occurring before Sodor's Legend of the Lost Treasure. But either way, I still love Sodor's Legend of the Lost Treasure, despite how heartbroken I got...with all of Thomas' scenes with the Fat Controller. But I do believe, that his punishment in the first place was understandable, since (as you said) he caused the express coaches to derail, across the main line. ...And personally, I do kind of find Gordon at fault there, because he was once again making "no shunting" nonsense, even though the Fat Controller told him, back in "Percy Runs Away", that none of the tender engines should be making complaints about shunting.

[@IloveRio-fp1vg]

Who cares if Gordon is at fault as well? He was right to tease Thomas to begin with.

[@worthybutter2004]

@@IloveRio-fp1vg How?

[@ThomastheGOAT1975]

@@worthybutter2004Thomas started the whole thing at Knapford when he went at Gordon with the "Lazy Gordon" insult first

[@adventuresofamtrakcascades301]

0:38 but, that's Thomas's true Character and it always has been. In case you don't already know, Thomas's character IS a cheeky prick

[@IloveRio-fp1vg]

And evil!

[@IloveRio-fp1vg]

His lies were part of the RWS.

[@worthybutter2004]

@@IloveRio-fp1vg No, not really.

[@joshuaW5621]

Lost Treasure is the best Thomas movie. It gets better when you consider the context of Who’s Geoffrey and how it plays into the two main characters and their roles in the movie.

[@cinnamonmantrainsareawesom7224]

Wait I just realized Gordon was put in a similar position in his railway series book and then he had quite the redemption arc

[@shugriiuchhvcccvahmed77det74]

Yeah yeah sure sure whatever you said, you toxic boy

[@amitysluzara2022]

I wonder if this was planned as an actual prequel or if it was just a happy coincidence

[@jeremiahsisaias8677]

Ive always thought that SLOTLT was the boiling point for Sir Topham Hatt to finally think that he should one day put his foot down on Thomas' shenanigans when Thomas goes way too far with his stupidity, eagerness or arrogance. Something weird that I noticed when I was on the Thomas Wiki 2 days ago or yesterday that I would've wished to be in the aftermath of the treasure chase sequence was that it mentioned Sir Topham Hatt bringing up Ryan also telling him about the dynamite incident. Another thing that I wouldve also liked for Thomas to explain to Topham was that he was the first one to discover the pirate ship not Rocky since he saw it when he fell down the sinkhole. The only time I can recall an engine straight up lashing out at Sir Topham Hatt for an accident he or she didn't cause whether it was something that wasn't out of his or her control or caused by someone else for spite was in Thomas1Edward2Henry3's S3 episode "Sent packing".

[@supermariof0521]

Here's how I see the Knapford incident. Thomas was indeed his fault, but at the same time, Gordon was the instigator, going on about that "Tender Engines Don't Shunt" bullshit. That being said, Thomas should've ignored Gordon and been like "Keep telling yourself that you big blue baffoon!" or "Silly Litttle Engine? That's the best insult you got?".

[@ThomastheGOAT1975]

It was actually Thomas who instigated the whole ordeal at Knapford when he went at Gordon with the "Lazy Gordon" bullshit first

[@supermariof0521]

@@ThomastheGOAT1975 Must have forgotten that.

[@garrerrrerry8023]

I completaly understand why TFC was mad at Thomas, and all of his scenes where he is angry at Thomas are justified. But for some reason, those scenes still make me uncomfortable to this day. Hopefully this sense of unese was on purpose.

[@Noobul8r9000]

Same.

[@IloveRio-fp1vg]

Topham is always in the right!

[@IloveRio-fp1vg]

He was going easy on Thomas.

[@skylarthompson299]

Thomas in this or certain movies literally makes Edward in bad episodes (like “Edward Strikes Out”) kinda look like a saint but at least Thomas has a REASON why he does things and is less worse but Edward is or can be a borderline narcissist

[@fairlyoddenginecreations]

Excellent analysis, I think Lost Treasure might have been Thomas's best characterization. As well as one of if not the best character Arc of the entire series. And it all happened in the span of one movie.

[@IloveRio-fp1vg]

I thought everyone hated him in this movie.

[@IloveRio-fp1vg]

I thought you hated him.

[@fairlyoddenginecreations]

Define "him"

[@IloveRio-fp1vg]

@@fairlyoddenginecreations Thomas.

[@IloveRio-fp1vg]

@@fairlyoddenginecreations Dude?

[@terencewilliammckenna6121]

In 2015, 2016, and 2017, Thomas acted more of a mischievous comedian with his annoying laugh "hmm-hmm-hmm-hmmm" than his usual friendly, helpful, sensible self, while Sir Topham Hatt experienced more idiotic stuff - Emily has too many roles, Toby only got a few, and Henry acted like a coward

[@cinnamonmantrainsareawesom7224]

You know what I think would be great character growth for thomas after slotlt

[@worthybutter2004]

What?

[@cinnamonmantrainsareawesom7224]

@@worthybutter2004if went through a huge redemption arc working hard at the construction yard to make up for all the accidents he caused helping out others delivering new dynamite etc.

[@worthybutter2004]

@@cinnamonmantrainsareawesom7224 I guess so.

[@AaronKProductions]

It wasn't Thomas' fault for the dynamite incident IMO. He didn't know Ryan was collecting dynamite. And even if he did, all the crates should have had their lids on. And even if he should've heard the workmen's warnings, the small engines told him to collect the rails.

[@railwaysparrow]

Both were his fault. He didn't know Ryan would collect it but he did let him collect bad coal out of spite. And the little engines told him how to lay track, rails first, ballets second.

[@AaronKProductions]

​@@railwaysparrow I honestly forgot the latter.

[@arry5432]

@@railwaysparrow that's fair. Giving bad coal to someone else is bad on its own. The dynamite being lit was just a consequence.

[@jeremiahsisaias8677]

@@railwaysparrowThere is a whole fanfic on Devinantart called "Thomas leaves Sodor", which is an extended version of SLOTLT after Sir Topham Hatt blames Thomas for the dynamite incident, Thomas feeling completely depressed, rejected and heartbroken decides to not be on Sodor anymore by living on the Mainland, get repainted green and then later on Sir Topham Hatt finds out what really happened in the dynamite incident and suffers the guilt for framing Thomas and he, Emily and Gordon look for him. This movie and Who's Geoffrey? do seem to connect with each other at how Thomas sucks at lying and how he can't be trusted at any simple jobs whether it be normal, stupid or impractical he gets at whatever episodes he's spotlighted on, and Sir Topham Hatt in here probably decided to take a stand against Thomas' stupidity after all the years of crashes and property damage he caused in every season, episode and movie.

[@IloveRio-fp1vg]

@@jeremiahsisaias8677 Everyone hates Thomas. He is evil and unlikeable.

[@Jetthehawk1994]

@Railway Sparrow Olivia Coleman joined the voice cast in Tale of the Brave.

[@ZorkoNews]

Cant wait to see what u can do with the new laptop

[@Trickshotter]

I highly doubt this was intentional but it sure is a fun headcanon

[@terencewilliammckenna6121]

If they'd actually continue the original Thomas show, I'd have them fix everything and arrange some more experience for the TV history (TATMR, TAB, s5, pc, 2000s, segments, persons, size, movies)

[@dylanwhite3383]

Great video and hopefully your new computer will work for you

[@lachlantheGWRengine]

Maybe there's a prequel that explains the treasure.

[@RWSfan2024]

Dang, you actually made a pretty good observation, now I understand why fat hat was a jerk in this

[@Hercules658]

while i do believe topham and thomas were in character,i never looked at it this way.well done

[@ThomasMarioFan_11]

OMG when I saw the title I literally said its who's Geoffrey!

[@BlueTraxDak]

This makes mad sense!

[@GWRproductions08]

Finally, Someone that explains this movie perfectly!

[@mmx3backup606]

I've Read A FanFiction Story Called 'Restoring Lost Honour', Basically It's SLOTLT But With Some Additional Stuff. But One Part Stands Out. When TFC Scolded Thomas About The Dynamite, What Happens? Well, After All That, Thomas Proclaims His Hatred For TFC And Plans To Leave Sodor To Be Scrapped, Donald And Douglas Overhear This And Tell All The Engines (Barring Edward & Gordon) About What Happened, And When They Reached Emily (Who Is Thomas' Love Interest In The FanFiction), She Charges At TFC, Almost Runs Him Over And Berates Him For The Whole Thing. I Can Post The Link To The Story If You Like?

[@lachlantheGWRengine]

Feel free to.

[@terencewilliammckenna6121]

They shouldn’t need a gag of repeating how Thomas is a tank engine who is considered cheeky

[@harrisonallen651]

Very well hidden Mattel

[@terencewilliammckenna6121]

If I was you, I'd calmly arranged with Mattel to sort out these series errors, continue the original Thomas show, and make just a few more edits on Sodor

[@Lord_vader_4110]

This will actually make sense

[@stuartbarclay7940]

Personally, while Who's Geoffrey does acts as a nice prequel to SLOTLT, in my opinion I feel like it doesn't really add a lot to the overall plot (Plus, I feel like they should have actually had Geoffrey be real at the end). Not to mention, it doesn't excuse his behaviour towards Thomas. I mean alright, the first two times okay, but the third time? Nah, not on. Couldn't the Fatt Hatt just let Thomas get a bloody word in?! It really hurts just seeing him shouting at poor Thomas, especially the scene after the dynamite incident. What hurts even more is that Thomas doesn't shout back. I mean Thomas has stood up for himself to other characters before (Such as Diesel 10 in Thomas and the Magic Railroad, Spencer in Hero of the Rails and, of course, Hector in Hector the Horrid), so why he doesn't stand up to his own controller? In my opinion, what should have happened is that Thomas should have snapped back at the Fat Controller and run away from the Island of Sodor. The Fat Controller would then feel guilty for his actions and go to find his number one engine and apologise. After that, he then punishes Gordon for being lazy and rude towards Thomas by taking away his express and having him work at the Smelters.

[@Noobul8r9000]

I actually kinda like the idea of Ryan being the villain fir some reason. Also, I think one issue with the movie is too much Thomas while old characters being brought back (even shoehorned in Daisy's case). Like, what's even the point if the main focus is always gonna be Thomas?

[@TankEngine75]

While I didn't like the episode (The Fat Controller woul've already knew If a Tender Engine is now on his Railway) and personally I am one of the people who made Geoffrey a real Northwestern Railway Loco (I made him a WD Austerity 2-10-0 Tender Loco) but this was a great video!

[@cinnamonmantrainsareawesom7224]

I wonder what duck, Oliver, Donald, Douglas and the pack would’ve thought of Thomas’s actions during the film

[@ThomastheGOAT1975]

The fact that people say this movie is the worst singularly because of TFC just baffles me and makes me think they must be 8 year olds. They say that he was unjustified when the accidents, which were all caused by Thomas being a selfish little child. Even saying Thomas is out of character in the movie still boils my blood and makes me think that they hate these two because they grew up with either the HiT era or the Miller era and didn't see the Golden era or the RWS. They are perfectly in character; Thomas is the cheeky little prick who occasionally gets in trouble, and TFC is once again a respectable authority figure. And to all you haters who dislike the movie just because of those two reasons, GROW UP

[@worthybutter2004]

But didn't Thomas become more mature as the show went on?

[@ThomastheGOAT1975]

@@worthybutter2004 he indeed did, and became more of a nice guy in the modern years, and in the HiT era he was a literal dumb child, so seeing his RWS character on display in SLOTLT was a nice breath of fresh air.

[@joshuaW5621]

This is why I’m making a criticism video on the SLOTLT haters.

[@ThomastheGOAT1975]

@@joshuaW5621 Are you a member of the Thomas fandom, if so then is your name FlyingMallard?

[@joshuaW5621]

@@ThomastheGOAT1975 yes it is.

[@cinnamonmantrainsareawesom7224]

I just realized something sir topham hatt wasn’t too harsh on Thomas that was what the writers wanted us to think

[@IloveRio-fp1vg]

He was going easy on him.

[@brandellsarver9365]

ThomasHDMedia has a high quality version of the uk sodors legend of the lost treasure on his KZbin channel.

[@julyleonard]

I think Geoffrey is an LNER 2-8-0 painted dark red with black lining & wheels.

[@sundragon-vp1yd]

This is we don't have train with what he has...

[@redluca56]

That wasn't Eddie Redmayne, that was Jamie Campbell Bower

[@YouSoJames]

king of the railway season 17 tale of the brave season 18 the adventure begins sodors legend of the lost treasure season 19 the great race mfs be wastin my time

[@railwaysparrow]

No S19 aired in the uk before SLOTLT

[@megatronacepticon]

Season 19 is definitely meant to be before Legend of the Lost Treasure because I remember at the time they said it was set before it and we all got excited about how they would introduce characters from Lost Treasure and build up the plot points in it. They of course didn't (aside from the Who's Geoffrey connection), but I remember the hype at the time for what could have been.

[@terencewilliammckenna6121]

Let’s form a group with Mattel to go over these series error issues and out-of-character moments

[@IloveRio-fp1vg]

A justified jerk.

[@RailProductions]

“The better Oliver” sure 💀

[@Thebreakingbadthomasfan23]

I’m one of those people that does not like lost treasure of that much just because some stuff it’s not really due to the fact control or anything it’s really that I think there should just be another Main character And Ryan don’t get me started on him

[@hugothomas1199]

Nice

[@MSwolfdog158]

So you will ask Mattel creation television to ask if you want to help.

[@karenfan010]

my question is why did thomas start becoming arrogant in the first place we haven’t seen thomas like this since season one and now he starts going back to his old habits

[@railwaysparrow]

That's what this video explains. Thomas starts lying in "Who's Geoffrey" to get out of trouble and because he doesn't get punished for it he starts getting cocky as we see at the start of SLOTLT.

[@cinnamonmantrainsareawesom7224]

@@railwaysparrow sure took a while for thomas to learn a lesson huh

[@cinnamonmantrainsareawesom7224]

@@railwaysparrow I still have hope for the Marc Forster film

[@IloveRio-fp1vg]

@@railwaysparrow Which is why you and everyone else hate him.

[@ThomastheGOAT1975]

I personally like Thomas's cheeky personality returning because the modern years mad him too nice

[@FictionalADDON]

They did gets Thomas’ personality right, but it’s in the wrong movie.

[@ThatFunniB12]

Im here before 1k views

[@terencewilliammckenna6121]

Wow

[@Tre-engineshorts]

😳

[@cutcat5095]

I'm not sure it really improves the situation with the out of character writing... so, instead of it being limited to one movie for the story arc, it extends backwards into what looks like a rubbish episode? imo, I think that makes it all worse, that their grip on traits was slipping that early. Thomas can be rude or harsh but he's honest! I will say that in the vacuum of the movie, the cause and effects make sense, but it's on wonky foundation.

[@doctorwhosit3896]

What about Thomas and Gordon’s alliance? It’s completely gone in this movie.

[@worthybutter2004]

Exactly! I thought they had gotten over their silly arguments by now.

[@joshuaW5621]

It’s been broken since season 5 tbh.

[@teagsmid3707]

The Fat Controller should apologise to Thomas

[@shugriiuchhvcccvahmed77det74]

I agree with you teaganm, but what if you opinion that thomas will run away from nwr and never come back

[@teagsmid3707]

Percy will go with his best friend

[@shugriiuchhvcccvahmed77det74]

Thank you teaganm

[@kaneshagrace5124]

Dang

[@juanserena3221]

if gordon didn't say "that's what silly little engines are for" thomas never did that 3:01

[@ThomastheGOAT1975]

If Thomas never went for the "Lazy Gordon" insult, Gordon wouldn't have insulted him

[@juanserena3221]

@Gaming-sv1jp the reason why thomas said that because it was teach gordon that tender engines do shunt

[@ThomastheGOAT1975]

@@juanserena3221 and the reason why Gordon said "That's what silly little tank engines are for" is not really because he is silly, but because Thomas is a LB&SCR E1 class which were LITERALLY MADE FOR SHUNTING

[@ThomastheGOAT1975]

@@juanserena3221 oh and also short distance goods trains

[@juanserena3221]

@@ThomastheGOAT1975 is a E2 not E1 and the E2s are not only for shunting of cause

[@juanserena3221]

in the first place someone shouldn't have put the bad coal and thomas was telling about the bad coal 5:53

[@ariwatsonartsandstorys2599]

I like slotlt

[@serenarenfro2668]

No it was Thomas's 31 anniversary

[@Jetthehawk1994]

He's talking about the 70th anniversary of the Railway Series.

[@serenarenfro2668]

Thomas the train is not that freaking old, I don't know how many times I have to say this, Thomas the train is 37 years old, the Railway series were introduced in 1984

[@Jetthehawk1994]

@@serenarenfro2668 The first RWS book came out in 1945.

[@jacobg130productions]

So you’re telling me my dislike of SLOTLT and it’s seemingly dumb plot points of Sir Topham Hatt being an ass were completely unfounded because of an episode in the actual show? Man what the hell was going on back then that THIS LEVEL of continuity could’ve made opinions wildly different?

[@xxxmcnuggwtsxxx9859]

You better start liking SLOTLT now

[@jacobg130productions]

@@xxxmcnuggwtsxxx9859 one watching of Who’s Geoffrey? And the SLOTLT rewatch coming up.

[@ironhorsehistorian9871]

@@xxxmcnuggwtsxxx9859 his opinion is his opinion. All I’m saying, even if I don’t agree.

[@IloveRio-fp1vg]

@@xxxmcnuggwtsxxx9859 Hey. Don't be such an opinion disrespector.

[@kylemcnellis5893]

@Railway Sparrow, The fat controller was wrong in the dynamite incident. Yes, Thomas should NOT have tricked Ryan into taking on bad coal, but what The Fat Controller does to Thomas is too far. He outright accuses Thomas of trying to kill Ryan! I’m sorry, but no. That’s not right. Thomas isn’t the nicest engine, but he’s not cruel! He would never, ever intentionally try to murder an innocent engine, even if he didn’t like said engine! Also, isn’t not learning the full story too far, even a little?! True, it wouldn’t have changed much since Thomas tricked Ryan into taking on bad coal, but still. So basically, The Fat Controller makes the same mistake he does after the cavern incident. Like I said, giving your kids the message that they don’t matter is just not right at all! I completely understand why The Fat Controller is doing this to Thomas, but I can’t condone it!

[@kylemcnellis5893]

Also, about the cavern incident. I agree Thomas wasn’t being very smart here. He shouldn’t have jumped in where he didn’t belong. He should have asked permission to take the supplies first, as well as where the supplies were going. However, once again, the way The Fat Controller handles it is not good. I don’t think Thomas is necessarily lying on that time. Rather, I think he’s telling The Fat Controller what he thinks happened. Maybe he didn’t hear the workmen’s warning (Granted, Thomas should have looked back to listen, but still). He’s not correct obviously, but it’s what he thinks happened. Also, I feel like dismissing Thomas the way he does is not the way to teach kids a lesson. I completely understand that The Fat Controller is trying to make Thomas learn, but that’s just not the way to do it. If you’re a parent, and you dismiss your kid the way The Fat Controller dismisses Thomas in that scene is going to give kids the message that their parents just don’t care about them, and let’s be real. Does a parent want their child to hate him/her? No! Absolutely not!

[@c.c.studios835]

I think one thing they need to fix, is showing Gordon getting in trouble.

[@joshuaW5621]

But Thomas started it.

[@shugriiuchhvcccvahmed77det74]

🤦 well gordon should apologize to thomas of getting His in trouble

[@joshuaW5621]

@@shugriiuchhvcccvahmed77det74 why should he? Thomas threw the first insult and chose to overreact by crashing the express. Even if you don’t like Gordon or Topham in this movie, an insult is minuscule compared to derailing an express train at a big junction.

[@shugriiuchhvcccvahmed77det74]

Yeah but it still my opinion you kown

[@joshuaW5621]

@@shugriiuchhvcccvahmed77det74 please don’t use that as an excuse to argue against us. Your opinion does not justify running around with a heavy train on the main line. Why should Topham let Thomas off the hook for potentially endangering lives?

[@terencewilliammckenna6121]

Thomas shouldn’t even haltfa do shunting so much often, and he shouldn’t halfta be chosen to fetch Gordon’s express coaches

[@railwaysparrow]

Your annoyed that Thomas has to do his job...

[@IloveRio-fp1vg]

@@railwaysparrow Gordon was right to tease Thomas and say tender engines don't shunt.

[@ThomastheGOAT1975]

Then what is the point of shunters

[@joshuaW5621]

Just because he has a branch line doesn’t mean he can’t do pilot duties the odd time.

[@worthybutter2004]

Sorry, but i still prefer TAB over SLOTLT.

[@kylemcnellis5893]

In my opinion Thomas should’ve called his controller a mewling q**m during the dynamite that would’ve been so hardcore and showed the fat controller. 😡😅

[@joshuaW5621]

He wouldn’t do that. You aren’t even a real fan, which is why you know nothing about Thomas at all.

[@terencewilliammckenna6121]

Despite Thomas not bothering to warn Ryan about the bad coal, still he sorta does the right thing to push the dynamites away to protect everyone - besides, Sir Topham Hatt becomes out of character to get this furious and harsh ever

[@railwaysparrow]

Did you even watch the video?

[@cinnamonmantrainsareawesom7224]

@@railwaysparrow I wonder if sodors legend of the lost treasure was based on a planned railway series book that never got published

[@terencewilliammckenna6121]

@@railwaysparrow Yes

[@IloveRio-fp1vg]

@@cinnamonmantrainsareawesom7224 I don't think so.

[@cinnamonmantrainsareawesom7224]

@@IloveRio-fp1vg well it feels like one

[@thetrainmaster968]

I agree with what you say about Thomas, but this is The Fat Controller's WORST movie/special appearance to date! He just goes back to how he treated Percy for NO ABSOLUTE REASON in Middle Engine during the 3rd time where he "punishes" Thomas.

[@thetrainmaster968]

@@ThomastheGOAT1975 I did, it’s just my opinion.

[@user-zm2or2ct9t]

Sir Topham Hatt should take a break from being too harsh on Thomas and should attend Anger Management Class as Punishment for being rude and disrespectful to Thomas in that Movie Special. Gordon started it because he was the one that called Thomas names in the first place. Emily should’ve stopped when the coaches were coming. And the signalman should’ve Emily had the red light on the signal and waited for her turn to cross the tracks! Thomas found the ship in the cavern, but Sir Topham Hatt doesn’t believe him! Later on, Rocky lifted the ship out of the cavern and he got praised as a Really Useful Crane! Next, Thomas was trying to get rid of the dynamite because it was about to blow up almost hurting Ryan the new tank engine! Thomas got praised for what he did, but the Sir Topham Hatt was furious at Thomas! Like, C’mon Sir Topham Hatt give Thomas the medal, give him his branch line back, or in other case call him a hero because he saved Ryan’s life from that dynamite! That’s why Sir Topham Hatt should take a break from Thomas for one or two whole days without getting into an argument and being rude to Thomas as well.

[@ThomastheGOAT1975]

Right, there is an absolute plethora of holes with this. Especially with your rant on the Knapford one. First off, it wasn't Gordon who started the Knapford incident, it was Thomas because he went with the "Lazy Gordon" insult first. And an insult is MINISCULE compared to derailing an express train in a large junction. Second, the reason Emily didn't stop at her signal is because THOMAS' signal turned red, and she DID try stopping when she saw Thomas run it! You're SUPPOSED to and EXPECTED to stop at a red signal, because that is basic railway laws and SAFETY! Third, why are you saying that the signalman should've held EMILY at a signal? She was already coming through, and the signal man had to let her pass because she was carrying a goods train, and the Express was still supposed to be stationary, because Thomas was late to get Gordon his coaches! So what would be the point of keeping her stopped at the junction, if the Express wouldn't come through said-junction for another half/hour? Gordon had to wait for the Express coaches to be coupled up to him, and wait for all his passengers to get aboard the train? Really, what would be the point of THAT. Not only that, but Thomas derailed and damaged an entire express train which, keep in mind, would've been expensive, and also delayed multiple trains, including the aforementioned Express. So do me a favour, and watch this scene in its entirety, ENTIRE, before jumping straight to conclusions. The second time, where is it full on shown that TFC didn't believe Thomas? Topham didn't even catch wind of Thomas saying that he found a ship in the cavern, because he had to send Thomas to be REPAIRED because he fell into said-cavern, so Topham didn't even hear about a supposed ship in the cavern until one of Rocky's crane operators possible discovered the ship after possibly trying to retrieve the rails and sleepers that fell into the cavern with Thomas. Oh and those would've been expensive, AGAIN. Not only that but Thomas caused TWO accidents in one day, and this one delayed the work on the Harwick extension! Third, Yes, Thomas did indeed save Ryan from the dynamite, but that only happened because THOMAS let Ryan take the bad coal out of spite, which caused the dynamite in his train to ignite! Not only that, but Thomas actually kind of was trying to hurt Ryan, because he let Ryan take on the coal, which results in coughing and spluttering, hell even Thomas knew about the bad coal because HE accidentally took some as well the day before! And before you even THINK about saying "hOw cOuLd'Ve ThOmAs KnOwN wHaT rYaN wAs CoLlEcTiNg", what Ryan is collecting is NOT his business, and Thomas should've warned Ryan about the bad coal REGARDLESS if the latter was collecting dynamite or NOT.He also wasted a train of dynamite which would've been, oh who would've thunk it, EXPENSIVE, and delayed work on the Harwick extension AGAIN. Besides, Topham got the whole story after the chase with Sailor John, because because Ryan told him, and he even PRAISED Thomas for it as well! So how about you just be happy that TFC actually GOT the story of what happened during the dynamite incident, instead of continuously whinging about Topham not knowing the whole story, even though he DID at the end, and praised Thomas for it! I strongly suggest that you watch the whole video, WHOLE, watch the Knapford scene in its entirety, actually you know what, watch the MOVIE in its entirety, instead of immediately jumping to conclusions that are either childish, stupid or completely BASS-ACKWARDS to what has actually happened in that scene. TFC was being serious because he is MEANT to be serious. He isn't a buffoon to be laughed at, he is an actual authority figure to be respected, and needs to set an example for his engines if they fuck up at something. He is literally doing his job and if you hate it when he is being an actual railway controller, you might as well say Series 1 to 5, the RWS and TGD suck because he is actually in character. It'd be shitty behaviour of course, but clearly you don't care if Topham does his job, go for it!

[@user-zm2or2ct9t]

@@ThomastheGOAT1975 I agreed with what you said, but it was my opinion of what I think of Sir Topham Hatt cursing and yelling at Thomas. I appreciate of what you said and I thank you for telling me about it. The thing is I don’t appreciate the way Sir Topham Hatt’s tone of voice was to Thomas, and that made me feel very upset and mad at him for saying stuff to Thomas. I watched the movie Sodor Legend Of The Lost Treasure last year, and I think the movie went very well and fully understood of what exactly happened and why Thomas did all of this for nothing! Sir Topham Hatt was definitely being a jerk to Thomas for his actions, and it made me frustrated with him. There were questions on that movie that I think could’ve done better or add something to the movie like…. Marion and the crew standing up to Sir Topham Hatt and tell him what really happened. Dowager Hatt & his family would’ve yelled at him for being so harsh on Thomas and getting the little tank engine in trouble. Thomas standing up to Sir Topham Hatt and telling him about the issue and the situation. If Thomas is tried of Sir Topham Hatt’s yelling, would he leave Sodor for good. And, if Thomas learned his lessons in the first place would he promise to Sir Topham Hatt that if he promise not to be so cheeky and causing confusion and delay then would Thomas get his branch line back once again. Thomas definitely taught a valuable lesson about what he did throughout the movie, trying to prove that he’s a really useful engine, which he is not in the beginning of the movie. Sir Topham Hatt needs to understand of controlling emotions and anger to a person/engine, because if he’s yelling to an engine for something he or she didn’t do. Then, no one wants to talk to him the way he’s acting towards that guy. Thank you for your comment, I fully understood about it, and have a great long weekend.

[@user-zm2or2ct9t]

Also, they could’ve added returning engines from the movie like Fergus, Boco, Bill & Ben, Harold, Lady, Diesel, Arry & Bert, Mavis, Rusty, Diesel 10, and many more

[@ThomastheGOAT1975]

@@user-zm2or2ct9t I might just point out some things with your returning characters. Mavis, Rusty, Diesel, Bill and Ben, Harold and 'Arry and Bert were NOT on a hiatus, they appeared in the past two seasons BEFORE this movie came out, so trying to make THEM be returning characters would be next to pointless. Lady, oh hell no, we are not going to have a magical engine in this movie, Thomas is meant to be realistic. Diesel 10, eh, maybe if he's helping the pack clear away the rocks? Boco, I actually quite like the concept of that, it actually could work! Fergus would also be a cool addition, but I feel that him returning in Tale Of The Brave would be a bit better because Timothy is basically a less interesting Fergus, but him returning here would also be pretty cool.

[@ThomastheGOAT1975]

@@user-zm2or2ct9t Now for the Topham thing. Where did Topham curse? "Thomas did all that for nothing!" Wdym. Thomas did WHAT for nothing, what is he doing for nothing, what is supposed to make sense out of that. "Marion and the pack should've stood up to Topham" Have you read the RWS, let alone watch the classic series? If a character/s have shut up about something, in this case, Marion and the pack, that means that they don't want to get in trouble as well. "Dowager Hatt and his family should've yelled at him" Mate are you kidding me, you going to go for that trope? "Thomas would leave Sodor for good" How f*cking ridiculous can your fanfictions get! Actually who am I kidding, you're probably one of those Deviantart users. "Topham needs to understand how to control anger and emotions". I think YOU need to understand that TFC had EVERY right to be as angry as he was as Thomas caused three major accidents, each one getting progressively worse; one was him derailing an expensive express train, blocking multiple lines, and nearly causing Emily to crash, second one was him taking a train of rails and sleepers, wasting them by dropping them into a cavern, and getting hurt HIMSELF by falling into the cavern, and the third one was him letting Ryan take bad coal, which ignites the dynamite, and Thomas almost unintentionally KILLS Ryan as he was shunting the train of dynamite towards him, and wasted the dynamite. Topham had his angry tone because he CARES about his engines, he CARES about their health and safety, Victor literally SAID to Thomas that Topham DOES care about him after Thomas said TFC replaced him, and I quote "That's not true! He wants you back on track as soon as possible!". Topham also learns the full story of the dynamite incident after the treasure chase, and LITERALLY SAYS TO THOMAS "There's nothing to be sorry about! I'm proud of you!". Topham when Thomas was causing the accidents doesn't need to control his anger, because all the accidents Thomas caused were expensive, harmful, and the third one was literally LETHAL, so don't you go saying TFC was being too harsh on Thomas, because he was completely justified, and don't go creating fanfictions just because you aren't happy with the fact that Topham's tone was apparently "too mean".

[@juanserena3221]

andrew brenner forgot to fixed thomas ans sir topham hatt

[@ThomastheGOAT1975]

Did you grow up with the Miller era? Because Thomas and TFC are properly in character

[@juanserena3221]

@@ThomastheGOAT1975 yes

[@ThomastheGOAT1975]

@@juanserena3221 knew it

[@juanserena3221]

@@ThomastheGOAT1975 also i wnat andrew brenner's email

[@ThomastheGOAT1975]

@@juanserena3221 why?