The Story of Eaglercraft

[@diguifi0fficial]

Funny how the whole code was hosted on github, which Microsoft also owns. My guy stole their whole game and distributed it for free at their own lawn, what a chad.

[@Infisrael]

Outplayed Microsoft basically

[@mctogo001]

Gigachad 🗿

[@dnixy]

Lax just fucking played microsoft so hard at their own game lmfao

[@microwaveoven2]

MS can get effed into the ground

[@TheosTechTime]

It’s hosted on a gitea instance not GitHub 😂

[@Micha-Hil]

The fact that Notch isn't working on Minecraft anymore meaning we can't get Quake 3 Arena matches between ingenious developers and Markuss is a real shame. Now they have to "settle" in "court" and set "precedents" and "new laws". That's boring.

[@Jake28]

agreed

[@Shuji_the_great]

The fact they didn't duke it out on quake makes this a downgrade of the previous browser drama.

[@peppa1492]

The world would be a better place if more of those conflicts were settled in Quake 3 Arena / Live or UTs

[@iGamezRo]

I think that Notch would've loved the idea. I think that he would've integrated it.

[@RoryRose_]

"justice" this "truth" that. can't we just have fun?

[@ThenamesC]

Fun fact - In any pretty much any instance, it says Minceraft instead of Minecraft.

[@mctogo001]

Minceraft reference!!!

[@Marlin123]

MINCERAFT REFRENCE!!!!

[@joshuan.]

I didn't even notice!!

[@Neonz.]

6:57 HAHA I DIDNT EVEN NOTICE THATS SO GOOD

[@Mimi.1001]

There is a small chance that happens in the regular game too, I suppose lax just upped it to eleven.

[@NICK....]

considering that the entire project can, as far as i get it, be downloaded in under a minute and ran fully offline i doubt it will ever _die_ die

[@GoGicz]

open source is really amazing sometimes, it is impossible to kill open source projects, because someone will always have it uploaded on the internet no matter how many times they dmca someone.

[@alfonshedstrom9859]

Beauty of opensource

[@asafesseidonsapphire]

​@@GoGiczCitra is the best example of it, pretty sure it's even on internet archive.

[@mytiliss682]

Support can be killed thought. But I doubt if upgrading to the latest versions is possible.

[@Z_kun11]

@@mytiliss682 They released something called MineXLauncher and released 1.9.4!!! They might plan to go all the way up to 1.12, but that'd take a while.

[@Mario583a]

Notch: Let's settle this over Quake. Lawyers: The fuck is Quake?

[@Nirwanaa]

nice try

[@IDKisReal2401]

This video made me realise how annoying it is that Java and JavaScript have similar names but nothing in common

[@metamorphis7]

Javascript is named like this simply because they wanted people to associate it with java, hoping that make adopting it easier and more popular, but they are two totally different languages

[@myfaveyoutube]

It's stupider than recursive acronyms

[@shiro3146]

@@metamorphis7 it was originally has "similar" syntax isnt it before its turns into a complete sifferent laungage

[@Thetortillaman01]

@@shiro3146wait are you serious? The syntax used to similar?????

[@Respectable_Username]

You only _just_ realised?! It's one of the most painful things when trying to teach a newcomer about coding, when they shorten "JavaScript" to "Java" instead of "JS" and you end up getting/giving _completely_ the wrong information!

[@IBQ1]

If Microsoft can sell a game and then take it away from your library because you didn't migrate your account, I say this is fair game.

[@chrisantony8133]

Fr

[@kaboomkp]

Happened to me on my 2010 account.. I had a legacy one that I never converted to email and then converted to Microsoft and then Microsoft disabled my account for “security reasons” (no explanation from support after many tries).. can’t play a game I bought in Alpha

[@nikkifawkes6776]

Happened to my sister too, she had to buy a new account full price and microsoft support didn't even care to help even though we called and chatted with them for weeks to get the account back! I felt more betrayed than her by microsoft for this absolute shitmove but also it doesn't feel 'wrong' anymore to pirate microsoft software since they could decide to take away my license any day, why buy one in the first place?

[@Andrew-eu7to]

@@nikkifawkes6776 pirate minecraft is superior anyway since it has no bs microsoft censorship there

[@Fighter_Blue]

@@nikkifawkes6776 Had like 3 years.

[@xullls]

i love eaglercraft, i introduced my whole technical graphics class to eagler since our pcs are so blocked in school we cant even open youtube. anyways now everyone is failing but we have a 3 month old world hosted on my pc that has every achievement complete lel

[@UsedLuis]

I mean the offline (Downloaded) versions can prob bypass this restriction

[@dialga236]

​@@UsedLuis no, atleast in my school, executables were blocked from running on school computers without admin perms

[@snowballtacoburrito8758]

​@@dialga236 It's not an executable it's a web page

[@FourtyFifth]

@@dialga236 it's not an executable, it's a web page file that runs locally. Did you even watch the video at least? Guy literally shows it in it. Know what you talk about next time before you talk about it. So yes, it can and will.

[@erroroliver]

@@dialga236 there's a way to bypass on windows 10/11

[@AndrewBrownK]

dude that is so absurdly impressive that he substituted lwjgl in javascript, like those are some real programmer skills

[@benismann]

no the real skills are the fact he made it work decently enough to be played

[@c1oudsky]

​@@benismann could it be a side effect of porting the game to js?

[@tweetyguy7347]

@@c1oudsky it would be the opposite. js is much slower than java

[@ketchup901]

@@c1oudsky javascript is the worst crap ever dreamt up by mankind

[@punishedbarca761]

you should check out the source code if you're interested in programming. It's a fun experiment to see how he rewrote it for TeaVM.

[@ludovicdisson3668]

"Removing all that wasn't necessary" "All the music is removed" Something in my heart broke when I heard that

[@ST0AT]

Just fire up a Minecraft OST playlist in another tab.

[@Gianski150]

​@@ST0ATit kinda defeats the purpose of a Minecraft lite, a chrome tab eats up all of the ram on a potato pc, even you put a memory limit on opera gx.

[@MuammarQadaffi]

Removing music is based.

[@Onkoe]

@@Gianski150there are resource-light music players available. give DeaDBeeF a try - it's cross-platform and reliable 🥹

[@gammaboost]

Bruh he could've just ultra compressed it to 64kbps or something and kept it

[@Infisrael]

I honestly didn't know that SalC1's lawyer was from the stock free images that I use to edit my videos with.

[@EnergeticSpark63]

hey

[@xansurnamehere]

What is it called 🧐

[@timohara7717]

Is energetic a creep

[@Gerard-om1di]

His name is sal

[@EnergeticSpark63]

@@Gerard-om1di hey

[@fostrate2554]

I remember this one time I was playing survival Eaglercraft on my chromebook in my study hall with the sound off and a creeper snuck up behind me and I jumped in my seat and the entire class looked at me. Good times.

[@vindi167]

yeah it's kinda sad there is no captions, those a super useful

[@GameChisel]

@@vindi167 Captions:

[@allyboouwu]

@@vindi167as someone who is half deaf the are so nice!!! The latest mc version has themm

[@friend]

It's actually quite impressive how well it runs on a literal browser

[@Felale]

Browsers can munch tons of resources in current year. It's impressive how POORLY the Java edition of Minecraft is running these days.

[@1dood]

@@Felale ples understand trillion dollar indie company

[@humbledaoist]

@@Felale I'm not a dev who is super familiar with the java environment but tbh I'd put it on the JVM as opposed to Mojang persay. Not to say they couldn't be doing more, with how much money and talent they have, but working with the JVM is a goddamn nightmare sometimes. The whole system for java is equal parts really cool and really awful, lol. Like... that garbage handler man, its like trying to give instructions to a particularly clever dog from the other side of your house via a tin can telephone.

[@samuel-wankenobi]

I mean these days you can play Nintendo 64 games in a web browser so it's not that surprising

[@vonborgah]

Wasnt minecraft on browser too first

[@DanilordLP]

the holy trinity: can it run doom? can it run crysis? can it run eaglercraft?

[@robocatssj3theofficial]

what about can it run bad apple

[@ethanolfuelenjoyer]

Can it play Knack?

[@ezradlionel711]

can it run an LLM is the new metric for me now

[@jrm78]

The whole concept of running Minecraft on a web browser really takes the game back to its roots. I used to sit in a college computer lab playing Minecraft during lectures as well back around 2011/2012 or so.

[@HeyHereTer]

Evil laser eyed Notch turned into evil laser eyed Jeb. Minecraft pokemon, ehm developer, evolution 👌

[@lmnk]

tbf I think Notch would be more impressed of it rather mad

[@WowCreativeUsername]

​@@lmnkAs long as no minorities are involved that is

[@Leaper1150]

@@lmnk now your thinking right

[@stormhought]

It's evolving, just backwards

[@Leaper1150]

@@stormhought das crazy

[@PhoenixARCModding]

they likely don't want to sue him over it because while his mod might aid in facilitating piracy, eaglercraft itself doesn't contain actual minecraft assets, and requires an actual copy of the game to get set up without relying on outside sources. they don't want another Lindows situation where a court decides eaglercraft is AOK and suddenly the DMCA takedowns for the mod itself can no longer be sent out

[@vanci3449]

?

[@debbiebernhardt5406]

I quite agree, however, minecraft is free to play nowadays for one time only or as this version shows, limited to web versions.

[@thefireph0enix]

Gaming

[@usernametaken017]

That's probably like a worst case scenario for mojang lmao they can't do shit about eaglercraft being shared because they don't wanna risk it

[@coreblaster6809]

​@@vanci3449 what part did you not get

[@Creepernom]

The fact that it runs so well in this form just speaks volumes about how terribly normal minecraft runs

[@f.n.8540]

you can open 1.8.8 right now and compare the performance

[@AttacMage]

He trimmed 80 MB of data out through lossy compression. If you want to play with extremely low quality audio and graphics, you do you.

[@ok-tr1nw]

How tf do you lossy compress the texture atlas without misaligning everything??? ​@@AttacMage

[@havenselph]

Lossy compression of audio I think is what he meant ​@ok-tr1nw

[@AttacMage]

@@havenselph yup. technically, I should've separated the graphics bit of the clause because it does come across as being both.

[@mobas07]

Honestly EaglerCraft dev is a legend for making something like this and it's a sad world we're living in where Microsoft can effectively bully every website into deleting his account.

[@aidandrury9542]

Absolutely. He's just trying to make it work on a web browser again as well

[@Dong_Harvey]

in the late 90s, Microsoft started a pretty strong effort to force every website to use the Internet Explorer API for development. So they are used to being shitty humans.

[@c1oudsky]

​@@Dong_Harvey that's how every big market player plays, it's not that microsoft personally are a special kind of evil. every big corp becomes that to a (not so much) varying degree

[@steverammer-mk2xu]

ur right

[@TannerLindberg]

Yeah it isn't just enough to take down the offending content. No no. No we need to make sure you can never post anything anywhere ever again. I hate this corporate dystopia we live in.

[@Shadxws]

This dude actually rewrote all these dependencies from scratch just for Minecraft… Even if the game is gone, he still made massive contributions to the open source community through that alone. And the fact that he did that in such a short timeframe is mind boggling. Microsoft could’ve acquired the project for dirt cheap compared to the cost of developing it in house and potentially missing out on millions in new revenue. I guess they just want to protect their low end device revenue from bedrock micro transactions.

[@Dong_Harvey]

Microsoft is managed by possibly the dumbest people these days. I guess AI will be smarter than somebody there at some point.

[@donutstudios6353]

game is technically still around if you have the html downloaded somewhere- i still have it on my school google drive

[@monkeywithocd]

The fact Mojang didn't accept the offer to use it in an official capacity is unsurprising but disappointing. Making it so that people who otherwise couldn't are able to play the game is honestly great, not to mention the amazing absurdity of such a complex game managing to run on JavaScript, but unfortunately the likelihood of Mojang being able to play ball even if they wanted to is basically zero since they're owned by Microsoft.

[@SamiTheAnxiousBean]

If they just hired this dude to maintain their Web version of Minecraft and left him alone they would be fucking GOLDEN

[@0815dude]

I think Microsoft just wants to push Minecraft bedrock more so they can get more money through it's in app purchases

[@ceruleasky]

The works of amateurs tends to outshine that of professionals sometimes, mojang remade minecraft in C+ and could not achieve the similarity to the original game, while it is performant, there are many discrepancies, this one person, a passionate lover for his art, achieves this goal not for money or praise, but to truly chase a quest of excellence, and that is a thing of beauty, truely.

[@martinselame9029]

Well, Microsoft would eliminate Java Minecraft if there wasn't so many players, bedrock is their income source from Minecraft. Even if it would allow for more people to play, it is basically a MCJE fork, so they wouldn't allow that.

[@Ddeletham]

They should have offered him a job...

[@shroomer3867]

If Mojang tries to take your video down with DMCA, you can refuse it on the basis that this is genuinely educational content.

[@OrangeYTT]

...that doesn't negate a valid DMCA takedown notice.

[@Sleestiq]

@@OrangeYTT thing is they are not valid DMCA takedown notices. they are invalid

[@imbadatgames568]

Journalism might work better

[@sonicmeerkat]

@@OrangeYTT it isn't valid though, fair use exists which allows use opf movie clips in video reviews, using game footage in a programming history is A okay lol

[@IAmARefrigerator]

Unfortunately KZbin prefers to stay on the side of the big multi-trillion dollar corporation rather than the KZbinr, so will probably just take the video down anyway

[@VideoGameSmash12]

Ayunami is a legend. He has also written bots that can livestream via item lore on creative servers and even the backend for a web Pictochat clone.

[@Sleestiq]

hi video

[@VideoGameSmash12]

​@@SleestiqHello ayunami

[@schooper]

oh my god he's THAT ayunami. no wonder the name was so familiar

[@vip_bimmervip_bimmer8033]

and particle displays at crazy high res

[@alfonshedstrom9859]

Ayunami made webbrowser pictochat??!

[@Sean27007]

At first, we said, can it run Doom? Now, we'll try minecraft on everything.

[@crownmvp1]

Eaglercraft was my entire childhood, I had a massive server when I was in middle school and the lore was insane. The teachers tried to block it so we added the code into our computers files by clicking some sketchy download links and putting it all into thumb drives that we passed around school. It got kind of crazy when the principal started interviewing kids trying to figure out who was distributing the thumb drives and threatening to get them suspended, but I’m proud to say none of us cracked and we played Eaglercraft the entire year.

[@username6338]

But eaglercraft has barely existed for 10 seconds. What?

[@oopruh2]

@@username6338It has existed since June 2020

[@AllforHim-oo4et]

If you are talking about eaglercraft which has existed for ~2 years... You are still in your childhood.

[@UA-380-]

@@AllforHim-oo4et 4 years

[@ksds9385]

It's called a saying. Also he'd be in High School rn if he played in middle school, same as me

[@foxtheunicorn]

Lucky me finding this video 27 seconds after release

[@PixelBrushArt]

me 6 minutes after release.

[@MCAbdo]

9 minutes here xd

[@hellc_t]

me 12 mins

[@psydvckk]

started watching it 30 seconds after posting😎

[@mkprogamer1113]

Yooo im 27 min after release

[@Hutch2Much]

listen, i get companies trying to protect their copyright, but contacting discord and terminating his account? what the fuck?

[@softsounds8453]

Fr that felt like an overstep

[@toomanycharacter]

The prime goal of a company the size of Microsoft is to protect their profit and hegemony. Making his life hell is just goal-oriented behavior, since he dared to develop a version of their game that might in some conceivable way endanger their profits. All the developers must know what Microsoft is ready to do if they dare to tread in their territory.

[@sacrificiallamb4568]

@@toomanycharacter And Nintendo.

[@mrdiamond64]

If you think that's too far then you should see what Mojang did to the MDLC (Minecraft Developer Leaking Community)

[@ksds9385]

He probably shared a link to his github or a download for the html on his server/account. Still wild though

[@pokefreak2112]

Just tried it out, crazy how it loads way faster from a remote server than modern minecraft does when run locally Definitely one of the better demo's of what modern browsers are capable of!

[@DanTDMJace]

Yeah cause it's 1.8.8, i'm sure native 1.8.8 would run just as fast or faster

[@ksds9385]

I'm just confused on why it still works when according to this video Lax removed it.

[@pokefreak2112]

@@ksds9385 Probably some third party hosting it.I just googled eaglercraft and clicked on the first result

[@Xanthopathy]

​@@ksds9385Because it's all open source, meaning any copy would still function as intended

[@coneskid2]

​@@ksds9385I don't think lax hosts the eagler website

[@ggsmpoffical]

As a Eaglercraft server owner, thank you for giving Eaglercraft the video essay it deserves. It really is a cool project.

[@Hellscaped]

hello sol

[@MythicalTrashcan]

Yo, 3 server owners in a comment lol.

[@Hellscaped]

@@MythicalTrashcan and two of us own the same server

[@jordangreen9637]

Wanna play quake? ​@@Hellscaped

[@Hellscaped]

@@jordangreen9637 nah my quakeworld client is broken i need to recompile it

[@cheesemanthe2nd]

Imagine how much cooler mojang would have looked if they just hired him

[@patrickf803]

You should make a video about Eaglercraft

[@SalC1]

I'll add it to my ideas list

[@friend]

@@SalC1 it would make a banger video imo

[@qwildqq]

@@SalC1 SalC1, hi I was wondering if you could make a video idea about some of the servers that allow eaglercraft players via the Bungee plugin

[@ShrekTheShrexyOgre]

Hmm

[@Hlwthere]

It isnt Mojang's lawyers who did the work, but Micrococ's lawyers

[@thepwrtank18]

you do realize that Mojang's been pretty much assimilated into Microsoft now and that literally everyone in the team agrees with Microsoft

[@Aleuse]

@@thepwrtank18 while that's true, it's because they''re legally bound. However the fact they did not sue the guy makes me think, they may not be nearly as worried as microsoft is.

[@myfaveyoutube]

MiKKKro$haft

[@peppermintpig974]

Thank you for this clarification. That explains why people can't get a hold of anybody responsible for legal at Mojang itself. If you're a Mojang lawyer prove me wrong, since your company has a lot to answer for.

[@BKLU]

@@Aleuse well, what notch did is allow cracked minecraft clients so that then people would buy the actual game.

[@Davide0033]

making minecraft run on javascript is crazy, ngl and it's cool that it's never gonna die, it's internet property now

[@reeeo5781]

funnily enough, people at my school come back and play on Eaglercraft during class once every year

[@stefmyt5062]

This is an extremely cool project. I'm genuinely surprised by the fact that I didn't know this existed.

[@cheetahentertainment3374]

Brother. You’re telling a story. You’re fine. Freedom of speech and press. Mainly press. Mojang DMCA can’t override freedom of press.

[@DarkTakanuva]

Microsoft might try anyway "how dare you spread knowledge about a free Minecraft version that exists"

[@negativespace7243]

What about international laws

[@GaffsNotLaffs]

@@negativespace7243 they can get it taken down in countries where the laws don’t protect him, but American law should protect him from it getting taken down here. Theoretically, if anyone gave a damn about the Constitution.

[@Tangental]

KZbin is a private website they can do whatever they want to the content posted

[@slendermanRblx]

Potentially also supposed to be protected from copyright by virtue of "fair use"?

[@howling-wolf]

The best thing about this is that people even now play this old version of Minecraft, which is in my opinion, very much better than what we have right now, especially for new players

[@Snidbert]

Copyright infringement is morally neutral

[@Yuki_Ika7]

Agreed, it depends on how and why use infringe on copyright and/or pirate games, I say if you bought the game once/for one platform it should be your right to pirate it for any other platforms, also if a game is not available where you live you should be able to pirate them (for example some eroge not available where you live, like Koikatsu Sunshine)

[@99696]

hi its me ben from camp (the guy who asked for a autograph)

[@nerbles7472]

Crazy seeing youtubers make videos about something i used to slack off in class

[@ksds9385]

Nah man this was my life in middle school. My friends and I had so much fun. Thank you Lax

[@myfaveyoutube]

Seems fairly relevant and not too crazy

[@bernardonegri5416]

12:45 The deal with the DMCA is that unless you are the author of the infringing work, you cannot be sued for distributing it unless you fail to comply with the DMCA takedown request. So by complying with the DMCA takedown request, you shield yourself from liability (unless you were the one who actually made the infringing work). Copyright law does not care if you make money from an infringing work or not. However, Lax could certainly have been sued. Copyright law is absolutely no joke.

[@makssachs8914]

Better call Saul

[@haxalicious]

People seem to forget that it doesn't actually have any of Minecraft's code in it, they would be facing a steep uphill legal battle that would also have a chilling effect on all modding.

[@mikefromco]

@@haxaliciousNo, you dont need to have the same code because of the fourth fair use factor prong. That’s the one this triggers so if this went to court the court would rule for mojang

[@frazercowan4030]

It's a very bizarre misconception that not making money from copyright infringement makes it legal. It doesn't at all.

[@GoGicz]

luckily someone from russia for example just don't have to care at all about dmca i mean what they gonna do?

[@piupolino2618]

Bro made an entire language of middle school ofc he's smart enough to modify minecraft to work in a browser

[@obonyxiam]

conlanging is a great hobby

[@ThePenisMan]

It didn’t really look like a new language it kinda just looked like a minor extension to English But like the other guy said, if you wanna check out indie languages just Google conlang, there’s tons, not too uncommon for unique alphabets too

[@unflexian]

at least it's not votgil

[@obonyxiam]

@@unflexian i'm a bit excited vötgil has so many vowels

[@sacrificiallamb4568]

@@obonyxiam Can confirm.

[@monkaSisLife]

I think its embarrassing. Hire the guy and make it official. Stop going the corpo route.

[@forgottenashes8299]

It's a corpo, it's going to go the corpo route.

[@RebelTrooperHoth]

wow man, a company takes the company route

[@sans1331]

fr tho

[@W00DGR0USE]

Most amount of dev time minecraft has seen in a decade

[@djwillcaine]

As a professional javascript developer this was really interesting! Good job getting the technical details accurate and still understandable.

[@xanderkhan73]

I used to love running around on the Minecraft site's demo version while I was in school, this is amazing!!

[@sldtyp0]

Interesting thing about eaglercraft is that the history has tons of branches spanning from just spreading its around to rewriting huge amounts of code and porting to entire different languages

[@rompacones3287]

bro really made minecraft online part 2 💀

[@quakeknight9680]

We've always been at war with Eaglercraft, Winston.

[@hakerananasek]

Eagler is considered a goldsteinism word now

[@ksds9385]

@@hakerananasek ADD IT TO THE OXFORD ENGLISH DICTIONARY, OORAH

[@pickleism253]

Doubleplus good

[@SKCro.]

Eaglercraft could probably run all the way back on Windows XP via Supermium (a modern browser for older versions of Windows) - I haven’t tested it myself but it might be possible.

[@dnixy]

If notch was still the owner of mojang today, most likely he would have said "Hell yeah!" for the impressive work

[@liamdormon7822]

He would have sued them.

[@EddieBurke]

@@liamdormon7822he probably would’ve challenged them to Quake.

[@dnixy]

@@liamdormon7822 sued who?

[@kubakielbasa5987]

@@liamdormon7822 Nah bro

[@Gizzardx0]

@@dnixy The guy who made Eaglercraft?

[@kogmawgaming]

Hey Mojang lawyers, I would never imagine doing ANYTHING in the video I'm very glad that SalC1 made this educational report on this

[@fireblade696]

If eagler craft let you log in with your Minecraft account instead of being pirated Minecraft, it would be allowed and would still be helpful for a lot of kids at school

[@Sleestiq]

Dream on, Mojang needs to add CORS headers to their join server endpoint if that's gonna actually work properly

[@dee23gaming]

I actually prefer it being completely offline.

[@Win_7]

@@Sleestiq thats correct but theres official way around that u make like a app or whatever and that lets you do it just look at how multimc handles logins

[@Win_7]

@@dee23gaming doesnt everybody

[@vijf]

from a developer standpoint, migrating a whole game from java to javascript is insane

[@jonthefuzz]

I love how you used egg in boxed cake as a analogy, because you do not in fact need it. its only part of the recipe to make people not feel weird when making it.

[@peppermintpig974]

The fact that Eaglercraft is a patch means they thoughtfully attempted to avoid any direct legal issues involved in distributing since you can't transmit Mojang's game files. That said, there's been various language in the post-revision EULA that has attempted to control/define add-ons with Mojang claiming they reserve the right to define or even restrict acceptable use (this is a contractual policy so that presumes you are a customer), but if you purchased the game before May 24, 2011 you're not restricted in that regard and only limited to the original rule of not redistributing the source whether or not it's been modified. In fact, all the early customers are allowed to modify the game itself, or make their own mods/add-ons, the latter of which they can sell if they so wish. Mojang doesn't have a legal leg to stand on against early adopters doing these projects.

[@jbritain]

Considering Minecraft is already available on Chromebooks in the form of Bedrock edition, and Mojang only keep Java edition in existence because people would get very angry if they didn't, they're not gonna have any motivation to have a web version of Java.

[@sacrificiallamb4568]

Oh yeah, I forgot they put Bedrock on Chromebooks.

[@j.n.-fr5uh]

the reason is as such: bedrock not good

[@jbritain]

@@j.n.-fr5uh tell that to microshit

[@elixerofmemes7379]

I tried bedrock, but I hate how it forces mouse accel.

[@metachirality]

bedrock on chromebook sucks absolute testicles tho

[@mctogo001]

I have seen a lot of videos on this website, but this one gives out the most information about it

[@tubelesstrippin]

1.8 is also my favorite still. Best mods to this day

[@ImCrowned76]

8:28 Oh hey, it says “Minceraft” instead of Minecraft!

[@MrNoob64]

I want Mojang to keep this video up because it's a very informative not only for me but other Minecrafters. You are a brave soldier.

[@ksds9385]

For me it wasn't informative since I knew and did all this in middle school, but it's so epic to see it

[@RebelTrooperHoth]

@@ksds9385 wow you’re so smart and cool

[@RebelTrooperHoth]

we are all impressed

[@ksds9385]

Do you need something man?

[@flamixdev5371]

I remember having that conversation with Lax. Happy to know he has a part screenshotted and saved to his PC

[@ilydismybeloved]

Hey, I'm a sort of manager for ArchMC thanks for showing off eagler.

[@sussygamer3581]

People have been striked for instructing people how to break ToS with other applications. Thank KZbin's convoluted ToS that bends it's knee to any form of legal threat. Second half of the video proves that point.

[@qwildqq]

omg its Monica from ArchMC!11!

[@ilydismybeloved]

@@qwildqq omg

[@player09wastaken]

real

[@ksds9385]

So how did you make a server on eagler anyway? was it already on mc 1.8 or did lax ask you to?

[@charles8179]

Eaglercraft being ported onto all sort of wild hardware reminds me of how people ported the original Doom to essentially everything you can think of that has any form of computing power. Funny how Microsoft also owns the Doom franchise now but can’t really do much for the code having been made open source (also I doubt they could find good legal reasons to shut down the pregnancy test or gut bacteria ports)

[@Sleestiq]

Can the human body birth DOOM? Let's find out...

[@natsukigushiken3244]

you don't know how much eaglercraft saved me from boredom in class

[@purplehaze2358]

You're telling me I didn't even need to download the legacy launcher to play this game for free?

[@andrewh6711]

this saved my life during science class last year i swear there was a point where no one was even listening we were all playing eaglrcraft on a lan server

[@SuperJxl]

if you cant even guarantee that you own minecraft by getting it legally, then i think its totally fair to use something like this

[@thecatmanager]

You didn’t mention how in 2024, WebAssembly works by basically running the compiled Java code directly without the need for JavaScript (except for initalization and graphics output). So theoretically you could reimplement the Minecraft server code in WebAssembly which would allow newer versions to be played (theoretically) and would speed up the server code a lot. Only thing is that the graphics, audio and input control (the client side of minecraft) would have to be reimplemented, or ran in another Java VM.

[@coreblaster6809]

The video being restricted to such a short time frame made it feel a little shallow sometimes, I could expect at least 40 mins out of this topic

[@ksds9385]

Agreed, but it's stil la W video

[@radiantsquare007jrdeluxe9]

I demand a 5 hour long video essay on this topic!

[@iy2318]

Eaglercraft is a great way to play minecraft at a browser

[@Emerald29]

Honestly, Mojang should just accept his deal and hire this dude. Make Minecraft accessible to everyone

[@smqfl]

minecraft bedrock already is because mojang cares too much about minecoins. we need more minecraft java

[@astrov81]

Our class always played eaglercraft when we were done with our tasks in computer. We started a whole on war with our own bases

[@Catfoolyou]

Where can I get the full chart with Lax's language? I'm genuinely interested in it now.

[@DecemberGalaxy0]

i wish this existed back when I was in middle school

[@ditz3nfitness]

6:32, OH! I REMEMBER THIS COMPRESSED SOUND OF GRASS BREAKING! NOSTALGIA HIT HARD! 😭

[@peppermintpig974]

IMO They could probably do some select equalizing/filtering to suppress the mids before downsampling to get a cleaner result closer to the original. There's creative ways, just as there's Minecraft on a web browser. Amazing.

[@obongonigga]

Mojang is clearly abusing the copyright system here. While the software provided does allow for piracy, it does not distribute the minecraft source code. I salute the developer of this project for making the project open-source and thus making mojang unable to ever take it down, and I salute Notch for making Minecraft in java and source-available.

[@Jake28]

To be fair, Minecraft's code is obfuscated so it probably wasn't meant to be source-available, and bindings to de-obfuscate it were only released well into the Microsoft era....

[@FTN_Ale]

doesn't it use assets like block textures, sound, etc tho??

[@tired9494]

@@FTN_Ale Only compiled versions, which from what I understand the developer did not distribute

[@RebelTrooperHoth]

I don’t think it’s surprising that a company doesn’t like people getting their product for free

[@toomanycharacter]

You seem to misunderstand what the copyright system currently protects. It no longer protects the individual developer, that time is in the distant past. Now its main objective is to protect the hegemony of corporations over their "intellectual property" i.e. anything that might have sth to do with them in any way. The developer might have poured thousands of hours into their work, upgraded the code to the point of it being almost fully their own, and their project may benefit society greatly, but the copyright law doesn't care. The rascal dared to tread a little too far in the territory of Microsoft by making a version of their game and distributing it, basically creating a semi-possible-competitor to Minecraft, and that's a big no-no since Microsoft holds the rights to "Minecraft" (of course they have the rights to Minecraft, why would the developers and artists who made the game or the overall playerbase that has made numerous additions to the game through suggestions, mods, etc have the rights to it, you silly goose?). I commend the developer for daring to tread that far. But I doubt that he will survive the storm that Microsoft is ready to unleash upon him for his crime of heroism.

[@SnipingIsAGoodJobMate]

Now I wanna see Lax and Jeb fighting it out on a TF2 MGE fight to decide if he gets sued or not

[@shotter1142]

Not gonna lie i first read eaglercraft as edgecraft and i was like hold on wait a minute, something ain't adding up

[@kooostia16]

single developer: creates accessible for everyone minecraft microsoft: here, take this new mob we made in several years with thousands of developers

[@GameChisel]

For the future, I was here before this was taken down.

[@HedgeRobo]

Mojang buying Eaglercraft actually doesn't sound like a bad idea, in my opinion. Of course, they are gonna have to change some stuff in the source code, but having Minecraft Java run on the website could make it more accessible to people on Chromebooks or people who aren't bothered to download the whole game

[@RebelTrooperHoth]

If you were a big company, why would you want to sell a version of the game that’s heavily outdated and is incredibly compressed? It’s a technically impressive product but Mojang’s audience doesn’t care about things being impressive, they care about spectacle. The audience this would appeal to is students whose admins blocked Minecraft because kids weren’t working or people running on shitboxes. And I assume the moment they would make it paid, these people would flee, because one of the main appeals is the “free Minecraft” bit

[@HedgeRobo]

@@RebelTrooperHoth good point. How about it's for people somehow still stuck on windows xp and want to cook a five star meal using their pc lmao

[@My_Old_YT_Account]

​@@RebelTrooperHothWith proper backing it probably wouldn't be outdated for long Mojang's audience would surely care as kids wanting to play in class is a never ending market

[@emred4653]

Lol nah. Minecraft devs are really lazy they wont do a thing with it

[@HedgeRobo]

@@emred4653 I'm gonna get slapped with the nerd emoji for saying this, but the Minecraft devs aren't as lazy as you might think. They have to make sure that each update would be received well, and they also have Bedrock edition to worry about. Java and Bedrock are in two separate programming languages and engines, so they have to make sure what's in Java translates well to Bedrock. They could probably port Eaglercraft well, since Eaglercraft's source code is accessible to anyone, but it could pose a risk to copyright as people can just download the jar through inspect element or just use a GitHub repository that's been forked from the original project. So it's not that the devs are lazy, it's just that mojang is a business, not a bunch of modders adding whatever they want to the game and not caring about how the public sees it

[@Witherside]

I remember the 1.5.2 version, but I had no idea this went all the way to 1.8 later on…

[@MerkieAE]

Atwood’s Law: “Anything that can be written in JavaScript will eventually be written in JavaScript”

[@lancesvensson1703]

The fact that the game is still playable today is crazy

[@getscrolled]

I just saw mrepic's video on this yesterday

[@monshd_yt]

Same

[@linuxguy1199]

Microsoft should be giving this guy a job, not a DMCA takedown. It amazes me how companies have no idea the potential of 10X developers like this working for their company. Imagine how much good it would do if they paid this guy to make an officially endorsed MC 1.20.2 version for the web browser? Microsoft is killing Minecraft.

[@Cart1416]

at school I would play this game with friends and we had 10 people on one world with just chromebooks, I got about 10 fps

[@alixcozmo]

this is pretty cool ngl. imo mojang should take the offer. i'm a programmer myself and I am kinda amazed at how this dude managed to do this

[@cajuncp0726]

That photo of the JS client on EDawg878 was VERY surprising, that was such a blast from the past

[@Sleestiq]

Bro I am so glad edawg878 still exists despite being rebranded to cosmicx

[@Jessepigman69]

"You can't make cake without eggs" Vegans "😮"

[@ksds9385]

LOL wild

[@ConcreteEnthusiast169]

I remember playing this in Middle School with three of my friends. We would build a base together and then go attack people. It was a lot of fun, but sadly I'm no longer friends with these people.

[@ksds9385]

Rip sad to hear. I also did the same thing! I had a larger group of friends and we would form alliances and grief eachother. Crazy fun!

[@RebelTrooperHoth]

All this happened within 2 years, you’re talking about it like a specter of the past

[@literateamateur5744]

They said middle school - that’s, like, 1/8th of their life away!

[@ksds9385]

Ok? Doesn't change the fact that we had fun. Why so toxic?

[@literateamateur5744]

@@ksds9385 sorry, I was trying to explain to polkarfield why it might be that way. I'm sorry if I came off as rude, that wasn't my intent.

[@danieldehoop6188]

this chad managed to make the whole game from scratch again and improve it while mojangs versions just get more laggy each update

[@ieatthighs]

he didn't make the game from scratch, only some libs

[@logdoor3546]

This version of the game has saved me from my schools website blocking system, and I can confirm its very fun to play with friends

[@rubrick_cub3shortsYT]

As a certified eaglercraft og player I comfirm this video was an absoloute banger.

[@meefvongrau9814]

It is so impressive that Eaglercraft runs in a frikkin' browser. Holy. It was a mistake by Mojang, imho, not to implement this into the real game since they bragged that Minecraft can run on a toaster. With this it prolly could for real, if the toaster has enough horsepower that is.

[@RebelTrooperHoth]

Why would they want to sell a product that’s an inferior version of an update that released a decade ago it’s incredibly impressive as a fan project but in no way is it commercially viable

[@meefvongrau9814]

@@RebelTrooperHoth Like I said-the accessibility. Imagine if you could run the game on a pregnancy test. Of course, this is an extreme example, which is way over the top. And yeah - Mojang should offer two versions then, one with ambient sounds and music, and one with is for raw performance.

[@Stormyyyy...]

@@meefvongrau9814 that'll never happen

[@GregorianMG]

​@@Stormyyyy...Doom can play on pregnancy test device, just saying.

[@ramoplayzreal]

Eaglercraft has a monopoly on minecraft in schools

[@Blue-Maned_Hawk]

1:12 “Now, the JavaScript programming language…” he says as he displays what is clearly CXX code onscreen.

[@theconsulhl2]

this really tells a lot about modern minecraft, microsoft didn't even dare to battle him in quake 3 arena

[@st4rrb062]

Eaglercraft is still incredibly popular at my school. It lives on ✊

[@t.m.2415]

Copyright laws need to be completly scrapped

[@goansichishig]

No?

[@addison_v_ertisement1678]

That is the most retarded thing I've ever heard.