The Hidden Shortcut Passages of Lyon

[@Galerak1]

Lyon - The only city where getting into traboule for opening other people's front doors is a good thing.

[@_asphobelle6887]

👏

[@RomanoPRODUCTION]

Trouble = traboule 🤣🤣🤣

[@Marquis-Sade]

@@RomanoPRODUCTION Dont explain it

[@NoNameAtAll2]

@@RomanoPRODUCTION that's the joke.jpg

[@N3therWolf]

@@RomanoPRODUCTION reported

[@fireaza]

Tim: "The traboules!" Northern Irish viewers: *NERVIOUS TWITCH*

[@the_retag]

XD

[@Macarite]

explain!

[@harounbraik868]

@@Macarite en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Troubles

[@Britishgeohistorian]

@@Macarite northern Ireland was in a conflict until the late 1990s called the troubles

[@Nienpet]

I just knew there’d be an Irish traboules joke. I’m not disappointed 😂👍

[@exactlyaron]

Imagine being a local on your way to the patisserie for your breakfast to find Tim lurking around in the alleyway.

[@RevCode]

There are worse people I could imagine lurking in an alleyway than a charismatic and seemingly friendly KZbinr :)

[@maxsupernova]

He once did a video almost right outside my front door, so I'd be used to it.

[@Ezullof]

When it comes to traboules, they are mostly visited by students, tourists or locals who make the visit with relatives from other parts of the country. If you're carrying something, traboules aren't great because you often need to open doors etc. In practice there are few actually useful traboules for locals, and those are used by everyone anyway. As a side note, in France we don't eat patisseries for breakfast, but viennoiseries (croissants, pains au chocolat...). Pâtisseries are for dessert or goûter (teatime snack).

[@F4LZ0N]

Every morning I take traboules to go to the boulangerie before going to work… that’s so cliché

[@colossebdumont879]

@Samson Holdsworth haha, a generic joke about french food. almost laughed.

[@geofftech2]

Where have I heard that wolf Alice music used before … 😋

[@COASTER1921]

Yes! I knew there had to be some reason I started about trains halfway through.

[@DanLoudShirts]

#ChooseTraboule

[@brandonmartin-moore5302]

Well for me it's because I must have heard the album it's off a million times.

[@laurenthelesbian]

silk.. a beautiful song that made for a brilliant moment in that certain aptly named sequel 🧡

[@christopherflack7629]

Hello, Geoff. Love your stuff too.

[@jonathanirons231]

They're quite widespread here in Vienna. Called a "Durchhaus" (Through House) and usually link two sides of a large building with two neigbouring streets.

[@TheTimTraveller]

Oh cool! There's a few other cities in this part of France that have them (Saint Etienne, Mâcon, Villefranche-sur-Saône) but I didn't know they were in Vienna too

[@MartijnterHaar]

Amsterdam has them too, they're called 'gangen' ('corridors'). The city quite recently has begun mapping them: maps.amsterdam.nl/sloppen/?LANG=en. The history is a bit different: courtyards in (then) bad neighbourhoods were filled with slums, creating a sort of mini-Kowloons known as 'forts'. The corridors are remnants of that past. I have to say the ones in Lyon look nicer.

[@AtomicKitty31]

@@TheTimTraveller there is also something similar in Lübeck that might very well be worth à video. Could not find a link in English but here you have it in german : de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%BCbecker_G%C3%A4nge_und_H%C3%B6fe

[@juststeve5542]

@@TheTimTraveller Krakow has them too, at least in the old part of the city. I think it's a product of having a square block property containing multiple households. You need communal entrances, often on several sides. Taa-daa shortcut! I found little restaurants and bars in the some of the middle courtyards. I could be wrong, but the same might be true of Budapest too (hearing Vienna has them makes this seem more likely), although I wasn't so much exploring there, I was following a friend, who is a local, so I didn't pay too much attention, just followed.

[@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721]

As an American, I'm reminded of Minneapolis, which has a kind of similar system, with the difference being that the passages are between buildings instead of being on the ground. It's a cold city, so the passages were built as a way to get across the city center without going outside.

[@jcthefluteman]

The music puns in these videos are just getting better and better and I'm here for it

[@ash36230]

In the UK we call it "Breaking and Entering"

[@TheTimTraveller]

Haha THAT's the translation I was looking for :D

[@johnturner4400]

As the song goes. “There maybe traboules ahead”

[@Quick_Fix]

You've got your traboules, i've got mine.

[@boldvankaalen3896]

It is not that different from the UK system of "right of way" on private land.

[@cescargot]

@@boldvankaalen3896 Droit de passage exists generally for people having a property in the nearby (say an enclave). But Traboules are for public use AFAIK.

[@Saraseeksthompson0211]

I appreciate how you always consider accessibility for those who might not be able to enter some places. Very thoughtful

[@charleslambert3368]

These shortcuts should help me shave some time off my Lyon speedrun attempts.

[@Craftlngo]

just be sure to stay quiet 😉

[@namewarvergeben]

Glitchless any%?

[@GerardMenvussa]

inb4 Assassin's Creed Traboule

[@Guigui_82]

They should make an Assassin Creed in old Lyon. 😁

[@baileyanderson6824]

You would become the Lyon King

[@effyleven]

I have been shown through a traboule in Lyon. This makes it the first time I have 'Tim Travelled' and seen something I had already seen for myself. And yes, there were about 15 of us, and we WERE told by our guide to keep down the chatter, "s'il vous plaît," because we were very close to people's private apartments.

[@professorpodcast3029]

In Scotland a Traboul is called a Close or a Closey, if a Close goes under a building or an arch it is called a Pende, closes usually come off of main streets and lead to court yards, closes are historically residential areas but I the modern age you can find many hidden cafes and bars in the closeys of Edinburgh, well worth exploring the ones in Edinburgh

[@starlinguk]

Riddle's Close is my fave.

[@falcychead8198]

So Lyon isn't the only way to get into traboule.

[@professorpodcast3029]

Smaller Towns like Perth, Elgin and Montrose also have Closeys that are worth exploring

[@RustyPetterson]

@@professorpodcast3029 In my home town Perth, they're called "Vennels", which I have just discovered comes from the old French word venelle meaning “alley” or “lane”. They are called: Cow Vennel, Baxter’s Vennel, Fleshers Vennel, Water Vennel, Cutlog Vennel, Oliphant Vennel, Meal Vennel and Guard Vennel!

[@professorpodcast3029]

@@RustyPetterson Fun Fact, Baxters means Bakers

[@ZagND]

I was in Lyon in August 2020, this was my first travel after many months of staying indoors and finishing a very difficult and demanding project. Still have very fond memories of this beautiful city and was delighted to see it in the video. Thank you for your work, Tim!

[@DanLoudShirts]

Very nice rendition of Silk. Nicely done again, Tim. Interesting video!

[@azerki1167]

Playing "I Knew You Were Trouble" by Taylor Swift in the background is hilarious. Trouble sounds like Traboule!

[@cocacraesh]

the full line in the chorus "I knew you were trouble when you walked in" is even funnier in this context

[@thatpersonsmusic]

Those little details are what make Tim Traveller’s videos so amazing

[@theholyduck90]

The song before "I knew you were trouble" is "Silk" by Wolf Alice. also oddly apropriate.

[@amonrei]

Thanks. I didn't get it lol.

[@GerardMenvussa]

Tim is such a traboule maker :)

[@nathangathercole6888]

Wow, I think this is the earliest I have been for Tim's Videos... whoop

[@philvanderlaan5942]

13 minutes

[@texaco2735]

I do really love how you always focus on accessibility when showing us around places. Very thoughtful to consider!

[@daandanx]

I don't really know why, but i absolutely love the idea of such compact and secret passage ways through a big city like Lyon

[@TypicallyThomas]

You know it's Traboule when you walk in.... You're killing me with this, Tim

[@PlanesTrainsEverything]

Another great video. I like the way you cover topics not normally seen by visitors.

[@User0000000000000004]

During the intro sequence in all of your 2021 videos, when you pull the whistle on the monorail engine, the sound makes cracks me up EVERY TIME! I love that thing so much and it's one of my top 5 favourite videos you've made. You're a legend, bruv.

[@garnetleaf8050]

I lived in Lyon for 5 years when I was studying - I was already nostalgic but this makes me to go back even more! Have you had a chance to visit the miniature museum? It's also in Vieux Lyon, and has both minatures (duh) and cinema stuff, I highly recommend it!

[@darthrizzen9349]

I very much second this recommendation! Le musée du Cinéma et de la Miniature has a fascinating collection of props, scale models, animatronics and even a few sets from various films and series.

[@YouennF]

I lived in Lyon for 18 years, and discovered this miniature and cinema museum only 2 years before leaving... in a video from Adam Savage, San Francisco resident. I went there 2 or 3 times since and brought my family. An absolute must see/hidden gem !

[@workaholica]

During a student exchange program in the mid 1990s, I lived a week in La Crouix-Rousse and had almost forgotten about the Traboules, which we actually used for getting around. I still recognize some of the small courtyards with the Renaissance staircases. Thank you for reviving old memories!

[@robbiebrownvox]

The 4th wall breaks in these scripts are easily some of my favourite parts of these videos. Please never stop cracking a "SERIOUSLY WHO WROTE THAT LINE" every once in a while XD

[@adamzeg3665]

And of course the Tim Traveler goes to my town when I'm on vacation... 🤣 Anyway it was a great explanation and the accent at 2:14 was very funny! Thanks Tim!

[@darthrizzen9349]

Nice to see my hometown being highlighted in the show! 🙏 And just to add a little bit of pedantry to the pedantry corner, the building visible at 0:15 on the right, immediately next to cathédrale Saint-Jean is the oldest in vieux Lyon (not counting the Roman vestiges in Fourvière), dating back at least to 800 AD, and possibly built on even older foundations. It’s called la Manécanterie and is now a museum.

[@someone0494]

69 latrik pelo Nan pour de vrai moi aussi je suis très heureux de voir ma belle ville présentée dans une vidéo anglophone

[@khills]

Hey - thanks for mentioning accessibility, that's really awesome and useful!

[@Brian-rk5zs]

Hey Tim ! I'm so happy you did a video about Lyon ! Especially about the traboules. Of course, they're not as fascinating as secret passages leading to a sort of tomb, but for someone interested in the history of social movements and revolutions (like me), they can be very interesting. Last year, for a homework, I studied maps of Lyon and drawings of the Canut (local term for silk workers) revolts from 1831 to 1848, to see how the workers used the city as a tool against the army. The traboules were a great way to quickly move, out maneuver, and encircle troops. It's really possible that during the 1831 Canuts revolt, the traboules played a great role to quickly move the Canuts troops near the Town hall and encircle the Royal Troops, forcing them to retreat, and leading the workers to take control of the city. They also were a great way to quickly change from revolutionary troop to casual inhabitant, if a revolt failed. There's a lot of stories to tell with the traboules, and the fact that we can still use them is really cool.

[@landonjones1516]

What an incredible subject full of mystery and intrigue!!! Thank You Tim!!!!!!! You're the best!!!

[@antoinearoundtheworld]

Merci Tim d'avoir visité ma belle ville de Lyon :)

[@MichiruEll]

I absolutely love that you include public transportation info as well as accessibility info at the end. Thank you so much!

[@nelstar9892]

Took me a bit to realise its Silk by Wolf Alice in the background. Love those details!

[@Liza03V]

Omg I love your channel. So many hitten treasures to explore in every city and in every country. So much history.

[@NonSequitur404]

so well researched and presented. Thanks for this video. It enriches my knowledge of one of my favourite cities in France.

[@ELS-tone]

The English city of York has the delightfully named snickelways which don't have doors, but are helpful little passageways, often often very narrow and very low

[@sarahprunierlaw9147]

wow!

[@Neil070]

My market town (N. Worcestershire) has a couple of these, but one has been lost (rebuilding), two opened up into small precincts and one has simply been closed to the public with locked gates. A couple still survive due to the public waking up to the loss of shortcuts from the High Street to car parks and rear shops. An alleyway between my grandfather's shop (my first home) and the shop next door was our access between the market hall and small shops at the back, and the shops on the road (the A38) at the front, with the cinema directly opposite!

[@ThreeRunHomer]

When in traboule, keep quiet. Always good advice. 👍🏼

[@aaronaaronsen3360]

Even though I'm from Lyon I did learn a thing or two in this video, many thanks !

[@tombrady1434]

As a Lyon citizen, whenever I'm walking around in Vieux Lyon or Croix Rousse and see an open door, I can't help but try to go and see if I can go through and emerge somewhere else. Ended up in a few creepy definitely-not-traboules like this, but also some pretty nice still-probably-not-traboules :) My favorites are where you have to go up/down stairs during the "visit" (usually in croix rousse)

[@bartterkoolt6466]

This was an epic video! Very cool. And I love how you point out tips for ppl in wheelchair. Must be a personal thing. Very helpful for me and my wife.

[@roluman792]

As a guy who live in Lyon, I know just few of them "the 2 or 3 popular ones" but you just showed me many that I didn't know. So it's surprise me that you know more about them then me haha but thank you for you're very interesting video!

[@sabinebogensperger1928]

Merci! That was really interesting and some of these Traboules look beautiful! It reminded me a little about Vienna (not to be confused with Vienne, just down the river from Lyon) where many of the Höfe (courtyards) in the old town (no idea about public right of way) and have a lovely charm and pretty features. Edit: just seen several earlier posters mentioning Vienna.

[@craighobbs3708]

Love your videos! I spent my Erasmus in Lyon in 2002-2003

[@SaturnCanuck]

Tim that was amazing. Europe has so much history, and here in Canada if something is 100 years old, its old. So jealous. Keep up the videos.

[@AnyoneCanSee]

Thank you for this fantastic video. I missed this for some reason but I'm glad it was recommended today. I'll look through your videos this weekend and see if there are other lost gems.

[@SeventhSwell]

Fun video to start the day. Thanks for putting in the traboule to make this!

[@richardsedding8444]

This video opens up new doors into Lyon, literally!! I have visited many times, looking forward to the next visit. Enjoyed the video, merci beaucoup Tim.

[@KM-kl1tn]

Absolutely love your videos and your humor. Thank you for making your content.

[@cissysprinkle8005]

love the crystal maze theme in the back ground Excellent.

[@_Everyone__]

Thanks Tim, now I want to go to Lyon

[@sebastianmeisel]

Great video again, and thank you so much for adding accessibility information on every video.

[@DaveTexas]

Fascinating, as always! Leave it to the French to make those little courtyards so lovely. In New York City, those types of spaces tend to look like prison yards.

[@juststeve5542]

There are similar unmarked "just try a door and see what happens" passages in Krakow, either that or I did just trespass.

[@teh-maxh]

When you put it that way, there are "just try a door and see what happens" passages in Texas. What happens is you get shot, though.

[@juststeve5542]

​@@teh-maxh I think even in Texas they'd have a hard time explaining how shooting an unarmed man was a justifiable response to a door being opened!

[@benoitbvg2888]

@@juststeve5542 I wish you were right.

[@Zyo117]

Unfortunately, many American states have what's called a Castle law, essentially it means that if someone trespasses on your land, you can legally kill them.

[@richardmillhousenixon]

@@Zyo117 That's not what the castle doctrine states. Castle doctrine (also known as stand your ground laws) means you don't have a responsibility to try to retreat if someone is threatening (or actively causing) harm to you or your property while on your property. It does not mean you can kill anyone who trespasses on your land, but it does mean that if someone breaks into your house, and you fear harm to you or your property, you are permitted to protect yourself with (reasonable) force. Just because someone wanders into your land doesn't mean you can kill them, but if they break into your house, you can defend your house.

[@expneperien]

I visited Lyon a few years back, it was really fun going through the long traboule !

[@LiquidShivaz]

This is beautiful! I’d love to a tour with a local guide there. Thanks once again for your inspiration

[@AJSAN1971]

Excellent use of the Crystal Maze theme. Brilliant video as ever.

[@pierrecamilli8978]

Feels strange to live in Lyon and learning things from a stranger. Cool video btw!

[@pega17pl]

I think all medieval cities have this system of passages. I know about Regensburg because in my early days in the old town I kept getting lost. - Greetings, Heinz

[@OrlindeEarfalas]

Hi, Lyonnais here :D it's so cool to see the Traboules on KZbin! Though if you want real hidden tunnels with mysterious things happening in them, we have those too - Les Arêtes de Poisson. They are old tunnels build under the city, from Fouviere to Croix Rousse and well. It's forbidden to enter them bit that doesn't stop adventurous Lyonnais x)

[@TheTimTraveller]

Oh wow! Thank you for the comment - I didn't know about the Arêtes de Poisson. Just googled them. They look very cool! It's a shame they are forbidden to the public... do they EVER open them? Le week-end des journées du patrimoine par exemple ?

[@OrlindeEarfalas]

@@TheTimTraveller As far as i've heard no, most entry points are sealed off - archeologists are regularly allowed to study them ,they carbone dated them to the gallo-roman era, but no other public visits are allowed. I always wondered why the mairie doesn't treat it as it is : an historical landmark of the city. It's not protected or cared-for, apart from the people that go do urbex in them. They are so mysterious! We have no idea what they were build for and despite the rumors about the Templars, nobody found any treasures in them yet x)

[@apveening]

@@OrlindeEarfalas "nobody found any treasures in them yet x)" You mean: "nobody reported finding any treasures in them yet x)", I would be hesitant too about reporting anything from somewhere I was not supposed to be.

[@bilgram]

One of the best content producers on KZbin

[@Orokadesu]

Même en temps que lyonnais la vidéo était sympa :P Merci pour le travail accompli!

[@Guigui_82]

Lyon, my hometown! Thanks for visiting! There are lots of other interesting stuff you could make videos about. Did you know there are ancient secret underground tunnels under the hills of the town? But there entrance is forbidden. 😔

[@amandinebrot8480]

What??!!!! Where?

[@michelmarigny6221]

@@amandinebrot8480 sous la croix rousse entre autre, un réseau qui s appel les arrêtés de poissons. On y accède par des portes dans le coin de la montée st sebastien ou de la rue des fantasques, mais c'est interdit .

[@cedricklyon]

@@michelmarigny6221 Il s'agit de galeries drainantes (et pas d'égout ni de catacombes) dont les plus anciennes sont romaines, à Fourvière et à la Croix Rousse. Les Arêtes de Poisson sont une série de galeries parmi d'autres (40 km environ). Les entrées sont verrouillées par le service des Balmes de la Ville de Lyon.

[@youngmonk3801]

Wonderful video Tim! I know its hard for you to make videos these days, but keep it up! this ones a gem! :)

[@TheNails3]

Haha absolutely loved the Crystal Maze piano cover at 1:50, brought me right back to my childhood, God I miss that programme! 😆

[@TheMusicalKnokcers]

so happy to see that a KZbinr i follow went to my city and i get to watch a video about it.

[@TheMusicalKnokcers]

2:12 ahaha you legend

[@SuperCarNation.]

Fantastic Video Tim! Really interesting as always! Keep up the amazing work! 👌🏽

[@nickcotterell1106]

I spent one night in Lyon in 1981 and had no idea what an interesting place it is. Must go back sometime. Thanks for a fascinating video.

[@borstenpinsel]

Everytime you say "secret passage ways through people's houses" I can only think of the now somewhat obligatory scene in a comedic action movie where they enter somebody's apartment on their escape and the residents either look confused or watch TV and don't even notice

[@gerrypower9433]

That movie is a good definition of a Feydeau farce; people popping up in the wrong place, at the wrong time. A Feydeau farce is a house of cards maintained at length by split second timing, only to collapse at the very end.

[@sianwarwick633]

@@gerrypower9433 that *is* a good definition of a Feydeau farce

[@RomanoPRODUCTION]

My favorite laid-back Tim ✅ ❤️❤️❤️😜

[@roderickmain9697]

Yes in Scotland (where I was born) its a close. In Sussex (where I currently live) they'd call it a twitten. (probably from betwixt and between) "If you're looking for traboule, you came to the right place" (tunes for everyday situations)

[@tav9755]

This is amazing. The staircases remind me of the palaces in Naples. Have you done a vid of Naples?

[@jjeisse]

I'm glad I stumbled across your channel, informative and interesting content (different from the other travel channels), enjoyed your presentation for each video. Keep it up :)

[@harrytodhunter5078]

The music in your vids is always spot on- Crystal Maze theme noticed!

[@sandervdbrink84]

Was waiting for a new video. Finally!

[@jojodeuch80]

There is one dislike and we know that is from St Étienne.

[@bananoscope5276]

I don't speak French but quand même quels enfoirés ces stéphanois

[@siutheyoutubeexplorer4494]

Y'a plus trop de rivalité entre Lyon et Sainté vu que Sainté c'est complètement mort maintenant. C'est avec Grenoble qu'on a de la rivalité maintenant, surtout autour du tacos

[@jojodeuch80]

@@siutheyoutubeexplorer4494 Pardon my french but is it true that Sainté is "éclaté" on the floor ?

[@martinschmidt9752]

Damn, I live in France and you really make me want to explore more of the country

[@keithspillett5298]

Brilliant, and fascinating as always 👏

[@martincook9795]

Great to see you out and about: I love Lyon but knew nothing about this. There is also theCentre d,Histoire De La Resistance museum in Lyon too.

[@DoomThinking]

Loving the piano play, well done, very interesting video

[@r-t9266]

This was very lovely. Thank you !

[@Arksin21]

This is the city I'm born in, i remember i went on a school trip once in elementary school to visit theses traboules!

[@pmberry]

Lyon is now on my must-visit list. Enfin.

[@anjachan]

love your videos. they are really always like a little vacation :D

[@r0binkanters]

I love this man so much for putting that whistle clip in the intro

[@devanman7920]

Love that you put Alice Wolf Silk in the background when discussing the silk trade :)

[@rzbrzotrz]

Your videos are great. I love the narration :) Every city council of cities you visited and made a video about should sponsor you

[@igni5s]

Nice video as always! Thank you!

[@KimonFrousios]

Salzburg old town center also has such shortcuts through buildings and they are fully exploited as public spaces with shop front windows, mainly jewellers.

[@AlexWJ93]

Who knew there’d be a perfect crossover video for a Swiftie who loves hidden passages?

[@andreabrock4880]

Great video - very informative - thanks!

[@patchso]

Fascinating place! Thanks for the video.

[@rowanmorgan457]

Absolutely perfect end to my day. Lovely!

[@DestinyAdvisor]

3:10 those old red majestic walls, those windows molding, those plants, and that light coming from the sky

[@metropod]

I'll see your secret passages through other people's buildings and raise you a legal city street through other people's building's 6 1/2 Avenue, which runs from 51st to 57th streets through the lobbies of multiple midtown Manhattan high rises.

[@alexythemechanic8056]

It sounds similar to the covered walkways in downtown Toronto. They connect places like the station and the hockey rink (of course), and are sort of sandwiched in around the sides of (and sometimes through) the lobbies and ground floors of the big buildings.

[@cakemartyr5794]

Always great to see you find the interesting parts of a city that aren't obvious. Thanks for opening my eyes. The beautiful city of Lübeck in northern Germany has lots of passageways, though I don't think they go through in many cases, if at all.

[@malkomalkavian]

Another great vid. I love Lyon :)

[@Juliamnl]

I had the privilege of living in Lyon for 5 years and loved every minute of it. I lived in the croix rousse and presqu’île (1er arrondissement) neighborhoods respectively, the city is the most beautiful most diverse most accessible city in France in my opinion. Sadly had to move a couple hours north for work :( but I will definitely try to make my way back to Lyon ♥️

[@HenrysAdventures]

Love the idea of a Traboule! I always enjoy exploring the narrow alleyways between building in York which must be the closest thing we have in UK.

[@jasongarufi8187]

Hi Tim Traveller I ate at the restaurant shown in the first bit of the video @ 27sec mark! I also went to some of the Traboules as part of a tour of old town Lyon.

[@ixlnxs]

Belgium's most populous city, Antwerp, also has a number of hidden corridors called 'gangen' the most famous of which is the 16th century Vlaeykensgang. Connecting three streets, with lovely patios at the junctions, it is where yours truly and his Turkish-born husband had their wedding photos taken before heading home to Morocco (and now Vietnam). Easiest entry is through doors in Hoogstraat or Oude Koornmarkt. More common than the thru-way gangen, however, are the squares hidden at the end of a dead-end corridor called 'plaatsen' (simply 'places') of which Sint-Nicolaasplaats may be the most famous but Bontwerkersplaats is the most beautiful. Enter through Wolstraat 37. Oh, and Antwerp is only two hours by train from Paris, but I recommend the night bus for those on a shoestring.

[@pwhitewick]

Smashing vid as ever.... also... Wolf Alice?

[@sanashi27]

That actually looks cool! It adds mystery to the place you're walking around in. Those who know where the shortcuts are could probably dodge people running after them. If this was in a video game, I'd be confused as to where to explore XD.